“These things are made with precision…” a more precise description would be ‘…these ancient artifacts were designed and manufactured with exquisite precision.’ 🤯
You would need a combination lathe and milling machine using a grinder wheel to get the precision cut surfaces. You would also need to support the inner or outer wall when grinding to the thin wall thickness that many of the vessels have.
See, this is where consulting an actual stone-craftsman would steer you right. Stonework is very unlike metalwork, and what is very hard in metal can be very easy (though time-consuming) in stone. Any stoneworker can reproduce this stuff at home with no difficulty. In fact, these things Ben is measuring were almost certainly made in a 20th century shop. You are in the position of someone who has seen a stage magic show and is certain that the showman is lying about not using real magic. People get very, very good at doing what they do day in and day out for decades.
Archeologists aren't engineers - so they don't even know what they are looking at - they just know how to dig stuff up and read old languages - or guess at them - its valuable but definitely not the end all be all on artifact analysis
@@frankwren8215 they (mainstream academics ) don't have an official explanation because they don't care about a fake. The scanned "OG" vase which is being propped-up as authentic without provenance and without accredited metrology and qualitative analysis.
The number one thing humans had back then that we don't is time. Until someone came up with the brilliant idea to charge us to live on this planet we had enormous amounts of time. Not everyone of course. It takes time to make beautiful things. How many millions of years did it take the universe to make the beautiful ball we stand on? I think these vases could be made today. All it takes is money and desire.
These vases have to be first 3d designed to this algorithm then sized to a block of stone above a certain hardness scale...Then carved with tools that articulate & that are harder than the stone ... PS the oldest modern human found is 300,000 years old that's enough time for civilisations to rise & fall multitudes of times.
Ben, you need to understand, perhaps you do, that the intensive scrutiny yourself and other are applying, is unpopular amongst those who either do not know or do not wish to put the paradigm in crisis and they are not a threat to your work. Don't, for our sakes, allow them the luxury of a response. Thanks!
@doc2help unpopular for those that would expect at bare minimum.that a professional evaluation in an accredited lab be performed. Otherwise, it's just seen as a shady scam.
@@GroberWeisensteinThis work is being done in perhaps the most accredited forum possible. It’s all open source! You yourself can go download the vase scan and verify all of these claims, or send it to an organization who you believe is accredited to verify them. In my opinion the only question with ant validly is about the provenance of the vase. But hey, a simple way to debunk these alt history guys would be to get some of the thousands of vases in the Cairo museum and SCAN THEM! The burden of proof is most definitely on those who think this is a “shady scam”, as it is far from shady - the work has been done in complete transparency
@@henryknox4511 Better, somebody who actually knows stonecraft and is less prone to making things up. Everybody enabling these contemptuous mountebanks should be ashamed. There is absolutely no shortage of legitimately astonishing pre-history, so faking it is insulting.
What Ben isn't telling you is that he is totally lying through his teeth while he laughs at how gullible his audience is. His contempt for you knows no bounds. Some people, like Randall and Graham, believe what they say, so when they get it wrong they are just mistaken. Not Ben.
there are tones of vases of the like they have scanned that have provenance, the electron scanning is quite metrological/precise; accreditations and the people who hold them are too busy not explaining why Egyptian clay pots are the same as granite ones (they should be ignored)
They’re identical to vases in museums with provenance you idiot. Not every vase ends up in a museum, many get passed down, inherited and then purchased by collectors via antique auctions.
THANKS Ben! Great work - endlessly fascinating.
Keep it up & ignore all the people who.haven't actually looked into it!
“These things are made with precision…” a more precise description would be ‘…these ancient artifacts were designed and manufactured with exquisite precision.’ 🤯
The thumbnail is wild. Ben looks like he did a DBZ fusion with Randal. Bendal :D or Ren :D
😆👍
If you take the goatee away he looks like a girl that's really into game of thrones.
You would need a combination lathe and milling machine using a grinder wheel to get the precision cut surfaces. You would also need to support the inner or outer wall when grinding to the thin wall thickness that many of the vessels have.
See, this is where consulting an actual stone-craftsman would steer you right. Stonework is very unlike metalwork, and what is very hard in metal can be very easy (though time-consuming) in stone. Any stoneworker can reproduce this stuff at home with no difficulty. In fact, these things Ben is measuring were almost certainly made in a 20th century shop.
You are in the position of someone who has seen a stage magic show and is certain that the showman is lying about not using real magic. People get very, very good at doing what they do day in and day out for decades.
@@Akio-fy7ep Dude get a life
This topic is one of the best smoking guns that demonstrate how the establishment explanation for this level of precision is just not adequate.
Archeologists aren't engineers - so they don't even know what they are looking at - they just know how to dig stuff up and read old languages - or guess at them - its valuable but definitely not the end all be all on artifact analysis
It’s exposed massive holes in academe and how reliant they can be on baked in assumptions.
@@frankwren8215 they (mainstream academics ) don't have an official explanation because they don't care about a fake. The scanned "OG" vase which is being propped-up as authentic without provenance and without accredited metrology and qualitative analysis.
@@rossmcleod7983 it's exposed lies made by its owner regarding its acquisition and provenance..
Archaeologists are just a social studies think tank @@cromemako83
The number one thing humans had back then that we don't is time. Until someone came up with the brilliant idea to charge us to live on this planet we had enormous amounts of time. Not everyone of course. It takes time to make beautiful things. How many millions of years did it take the universe to make the beautiful ball we stand on? I think these vases could be made today. All it takes is money and desire.
Not sure what you're saying. With enough time anything can be achieved? With enough effort anything can be achieved?
Absolutely not.
These vases have to be first 3d designed to this algorithm then sized to a block of stone above a certain hardness scale...Then carved with tools that articulate & that are harder than the stone ... PS the oldest modern human found is 300,000 years old that's enough time for civilisations to rise & fall multitudes of times.
Flint dibble figured it out with his stick tho
Ben, you need to understand, perhaps you do, that the intensive scrutiny yourself and other are applying, is unpopular amongst those who either do not know or do not wish to put the paradigm in crisis and they are not a threat to your work. Don't, for our sakes, allow them the luxury of a response. Thanks!
@doc2help unpopular for those that would expect at bare minimum.that a professional evaluation in an accredited lab be performed. Otherwise, it's just seen as a shady scam.
@@GroberWeisensteinThis work is being done in perhaps the most accredited forum possible. It’s all open source! You yourself can go download the vase scan and verify all of these claims, or send it to an organization who you believe is accredited to verify them. In my opinion the only question with ant validly is about the provenance of the vase. But hey, a simple way to debunk these alt history guys would be to get some of the thousands of vases in the Cairo museum and SCAN THEM! The burden of proof is most definitely on those who think this is a “shady scam”, as it is far from shady - the work has been done in complete transparency
@@GroberWeisenstein Right, all these pots are almost certainly made in 20th-century sweatshops.
Prof Dibble is spinning on his bottom.
Can't stand dibble, but i'd love to see him take on this dude.
@@henryknox4511 Better, somebody who actually knows stonecraft and is less prone to making things up. Everybody enabling these contemptuous mountebanks should be ashamed. There is absolutely no shortage of legitimately astonishing pre-history, so faking it is insulting.
What does Zeus have to say about this?
Non contact machining ie laser. Using traditional methods would create excessive vibrations, imo
They have witness marks and gouges from a cutting tool. No lasers needed.
@@RealKlausSchwab laser can leave marks, ie means for example
@@richardjohnson8009 no it means internet explorer
@@richardjohnson8009 hahahha sweet one!
Yeah nah mate
What Ben isn't telling you is that he is totally lying through his teeth while he laughs at how gullible his audience is. His contempt for you knows no bounds. Some people, like Randall and Graham, believe what they say, so when they get it wrong they are just mistaken. Not Ben.
Waste of time.
Almost as shameful and full of crap as Billy Carson, not quite though.
No provenance and no accredited metrological analysis.
there are tones of vases of the like they have scanned that have provenance, the electron scanning is quite metrological/precise; accreditations and the people who hold them are too busy not explaining why Egyptian clay pots are the same as granite ones (they should be ignored)
They’re identical to vases in museums with provenance you idiot.
Not every vase ends up in a museum, many get passed down, inherited and then purchased by collectors via antique auctions.
Dear Grober. Please try and keep up.
@@rossmcleod7983 truth hurts huh ?
@@cromemako83 not the "OG" vase with its inflated precision claims .