I built Tasha when she first came out, she is SOOOOO much fun! My favorite part is with how much stealing of opponents stuff happens, it fits in almost any power level game since your power level is tied to your opponents power level!
The only caveat I would state, is be careful with newbies. Suddenly losing cards can make them anxious about losing to many and put a target on your back. Watched a friend get taken out turn five because he milled 4 cards from everyone. I was like "woah guys, you have 100 cards, 4 doesn't mean much" lol
@@levioverturf9435 You can't do too much about that. I got curb stomped by a new player because I put a Curse of the Restless Dead on them. All it does is make it so that when they play a land I get a 2/2 zombie for sac fodder. They freaked out and dumped all of their removal onto me while full swinging me every turn because I put something on them they didn't like. I was by far the weakest player at the table that game due to some unlucky interaction with someone else. I tried to explain to them that curse of the restless dead literally don't hurt them at all and that they weren't the threat I was focusing on. But they hard targeted me anyways. My other opponent literally joined me in asking why they were blowing up my sol ring out of everything when I was already essentially out of the game. They said the only way they had to to deal with me was player removal. My point being is that there is no point in being careful with new players. They don't know threat assessment and it's a mistake to think you can predict what they'll do.
i have displacer kitten in my tasha deck and its insane, you minus tasha to cast a spell, displacer kitten blinks tasha, you get to activate her again to cast another spell and continue the process. not infinite, but lets you cast every spell she currently has exiled. pretty good for a 12$ card!
If you have something like Rod of Absorption or Dauthi Voidwalker on the field this becomes infinite. Her -3 does not remove the page counter, so those instants are sorceries are valid targets once they go back into exile. :)
My friend built this deck and absolutely wrecked me and my friends! He sent me here to build this deck for myself, plenty thanks! Can’t wait to try this out myself!
8:00 sadly Wizards Spellbook isn't too good here since we are creating copies and the person creatig the copies owns the copies, here's the relevant rule 112.2a Some effects instruct a player to create a copy of a card and say they may cast it. In that case, the owner of that copy is the player who is instructed to create it and given permission to cast it.
I got the Alternative Art Borderless Foil version of Tasha out of the only pack I bought for the Baldur's Gate set. So, I said "why not?" and built the deck. At first, I struggled a bit, because I have never played a Planeswalker as a commander, and that is obviously very difficult, because players always target them even if they aren't the biggest threat on the battlefield. So, I struggled about when to cast, how to keep it on the battlefield, and when was best to use the minus ability. First and foremost, I think they underpowered Tasha slightly. They should have made this a 4 mana value commander. Considering your opponents are going to throw everything they have at you each attacking phase, it should be slightly less expensive to cast, due to commander tax. Then, the Demon tokens should have flying. If you have a Planeswalker, you should be rewarded with the flyers to keep the attackers off you. It makes no sense to have ground creatures, when the designers know that players attack Planeswalkers. I mean, it doesn't even matter if the Planeswalker isn't even that great, players just get scared and auto-attack. Making them 4/4s might be too strong, because that gets into Angel Token territory, and you can go on the offensive, which this Commander is not designed to do. The Demon tokens are just to ward off would be attackers. Eventually, after playing the deck a few times, I got better at understanding how to play this Commander. You generally need at least a few mill spells. I run Maddening Cacophony and Fractured Sanity, because that's enough to get things into someone's yard. I even have Tasha's Hideous Laughter - it doesn't help Tasha's ability but it does thin out their library, which combos with Oblivion Sower, which I also run in the deck. To round this out, I play Mnemonic Deluge, which late game can either do something really neat or help you mill out other players by targeting mill spells in your graveyard. Beware exile effects. Do run a few counter spells, and if someone plays Rest In Peace or another GY hate card, you had best use that counter spell without question. You need spells in other players' yards. Also, this is a deck that literally needs lots of mana rocks. I run at least 6 of them. If you aren't ramping, you aren't winning. I also have a lot of steal effects, like Blatant Thievery. This really helps out, because instead of removing threats, you just steal them. Displacer Kitten is an AUTO INCLUDE (Golden Pig), and is quite possibly the best card in CLB set. Lastly, effects like Propaganda work. I have Propaganda and Mirrormade, which can either make an extra propaganda or copy something spicy an opponent has. If you copy another opponents' Propaganda, you can have three of them - wouldn't that be nice? My last card to mention is Mnemonic Betrayal. This card, at first glance, seems to suck. Honestly, it is really only good mid to late game, when you have a lot of mana and they have a big graveyard. But, this can be a huge blowout. Combined with Oblivion Sower, you can get a bunch of lands on your battlefield to keep the turn going. Build Tasha to have a few different win cons, if possible. The past two games I played with Tasha were "bonkers games." At my LGS I ended up dominating with Tasha, and one player said it was the "greatest magic game they ever witnessed." That might be exaggerating, but it was pretty crazy. I won against a Myriiam, Averna, and Go-Shintai decks at high-mid level, shockingly. It really all depends on what kind of super powerful spells you get in other players' yards, which is where the mill comes in handy. And, just yesterday, I ended up winning by milling out a Darien and a Wolfgar deck, facing down an army of 13 angels made from Darien and Divine Visitation. I had hit a Tasha's Previous Laughter two turns ago, on my last turn I got Maddening Cacophony kicked. On my final turn, I got a Displacer Kitten out, and then drew into a Mnemonic Deluge by blinking Tasha, and did Maddening Cacophony x3 to finish milling out my opponents. This is really a fun Commander to play, especially when you've played a few games and get a feel for it. Planeswalker commanders are tough, but the Tasha ability is really good. If you have some dimir decks you aren't playing that much anymore, take them apart and build a Tasha deck. You will be happy you did!
Great build! In researching Tasha myself I don't think that spells like Wizard's Spell book would actually create Demon tokens because you are creating and casting copies which means you would then own the spell
Question. Have you ever thought about putting your lists onto Moxfield for people to look over? It's a lot easier for people who are less experienced (like me) to see the card types and understand how the decks are balanced.
I've been working on a Crosis discard deck and a Tasha deck, but I've wanted something very budget-friendly that I can build out right away, and this is perfect!
I played a jank Dimir control deck in arena for a bit that used thief of sanity and covetous urge. It was fun to play but you really have to play a just of ton of MTG to know the best lines to take and I just don't play enough anymore. Probably gonna build this. Looks like it could be a super fun in a casual setting.
I built, and played a few games with, this commander, and I will note displacer kitten is almost a must have, especially with that primordial. the deck was so fun, i watched a green sun get casted 5 times in one game (mostly by me). it does need a lot of setup to properly work sadly
I really love the new Ramirez commander coming out and this deck seems to be a similar sort or strategy to him. Id love to see a budget version with him sometime soon!!
After this, I would not wonder if someone would turn Tasha's Signature Spell into "Mitch's Hideous Laughter". This Deck is devilishly good. Great work there as always^^
i personally think the golden pig should be displacer kitten because it litterally lets you cast all spells with her -1 until you run out then you can +1 and get them all back under her then cast one spell and rinse and repeat the process
As nice as this deck seems, I feel its one that can get very complicated to actually play very quickly. Why? Because of how many different "exile an opponent's card, you may cast it" effects there are. Not the number, but the variety. Exile with one of a few counters on it, exile it and cast it this turn, exile it and cast it as long as you control the card that exiled it, exile it and cast it for free, exile it and cast it using mana of any colour, exile it and cast it for life. And you need to keep track of them all. Just Tasha and Nightveil Spectre would be two different kinds of exiled cards you can cast and you need to keep track of which is which. So the more permanents you have out with that kind of effect, its almost like a new exile pile for each one to keep track of them, especially if Tasha isn't out for any reason and you have to hold on to whatever ones you can until she's out again. So I like the concept, but I don't think I could ever play it myself.
When I still used the Prosper Tome-bound precon, I did this by putting the exiled card sideways under the card that exiled it. This works best with permanents though since you can't really keep instants and sorceries on the battlefield or anywhere nearby
After brewing with de deck a lot, indeed Tasha herself is a little bit over, with 5CMC. To best round that, take care with your mana curve. Any creature above 3 manas is a no go in my experience. Spells with heavy costs should be also reserved to changing boards effects/winning, not necessarily the "casting opponent spells" gimmicks, which can be done in more effective ways in low curve. A last note following that, you can easily have other ways of winning besides casting the opponent own best spells: You can easily mill out one opponent out of the game, you can combo the mill with effects like Duskmantle Guildmage and go for the win and other alternatives. I found ways to consistently gets around 10 demon tokens and cast Dread Charge/Dirge of Dread for the win, but also use a small reanimate engine with entomb, abusing Tasha effect and milling cards for a huge Sepulchral Primordial/Rise of the Dark Realms casting, which usually ends the game in a pretty unique fashion.
Holy shit when I went to TCGplayer they first quoted me at 1700 for the deck because covetous urge was 999.99 then when i went to played and heavily played no foil it was saying I wanted 2 of everything.
Narset's reversal on isochron scepter would be pretty annoying, essentially dropping a reusable reverse card with a copy effect. Empress Galina, to steal commanders and any other legendary. Agent of treachery, hullbreaker, thada adel, confiscate, bribery and mind flayer for some fun 👌
I would remove nightveil specter and replace it with more ramp. You wouldnt be able to play a stolen card with a mana color you dont have. I say more ramp because you'd want to play more stolen cards.
I want an absolute idiotic deck, that might no win but will make everyone laugh their lungs out. Is there something like that? Something so stupid, people won't be able to stop laughing.
I built Tasha when she first came out, she is SOOOOO much fun! My favorite part is with how much stealing of opponents stuff happens, it fits in almost any power level game since your power level is tied to your opponents power level!
The only caveat I would state, is be careful with newbies. Suddenly losing cards can make them anxious about losing to many and put a target on your back. Watched a friend get taken out turn five because he milled 4 cards from everyone. I was like "woah guys, you have 100 cards, 4 doesn't mean much" lol
@@levioverturf9435 You can't do too much about that. I got curb stomped by a new player because I put a Curse of the Restless Dead on them. All it does is make it so that when they play a land I get a 2/2 zombie for sac fodder. They freaked out and dumped all of their removal onto me while full swinging me every turn because I put something on them they didn't like. I was by far the weakest player at the table that game due to some unlucky interaction with someone else.
I tried to explain to them that curse of the restless dead literally don't hurt them at all and that they weren't the threat I was focusing on. But they hard targeted me anyways. My other opponent literally joined me in asking why they were blowing up my sol ring out of everything when I was already essentially out of the game. They said the only way they had to to deal with me was player removal.
My point being is that there is no point in being careful with new players. They don't know threat assessment and it's a mistake to think you can predict what they'll do.
i have displacer kitten in my tasha deck and its insane, you minus tasha to cast a spell, displacer kitten blinks tasha, you get to activate her again to cast another spell and continue the process. not infinite, but lets you cast every spell she currently has exiled. pretty good for a 12$ card!
If you have something like Rod of Absorption or Dauthi Voidwalker on the field this becomes infinite. Her -3 does not remove the page counter, so those instants are sorceries are valid targets once they go back into exile. :)
@@DerangedDerelict This is incorrect, once the card leaves one zone (Exile) The page counter will cease to exist on it.
Put The Chain Veil with Kitten and it goes infinite as much as your opponents have targets!
My friend built this deck and absolutely wrecked me and my friends! He sent me here to build this deck for myself, plenty thanks! Can’t wait to try this out myself!
8:00 sadly Wizards Spellbook isn't too good here since we are creating copies and the person creatig the copies owns the copies, here's the relevant rule
112.2a Some effects instruct a player to create a copy of a card and say they may cast it. In that case, the owner of that copy is the player who is instructed to create it and given permission to cast it.
8:48 spelltwine and flawless forgery
I was looking for this comment, just to be sure I could play it 😅
I got the Alternative Art Borderless Foil version of Tasha out of the only pack I bought for the Baldur's Gate set. So, I said "why not?" and built the deck. At first, I struggled a bit, because I have never played a Planeswalker as a commander, and that is obviously very difficult, because players always target them even if they aren't the biggest threat on the battlefield. So, I struggled about when to cast, how to keep it on the battlefield, and when was best to use the minus ability.
First and foremost, I think they underpowered Tasha slightly. They should have made this a 4 mana value commander. Considering your opponents are going to throw everything they have at you each attacking phase, it should be slightly less expensive to cast, due to commander tax. Then, the Demon tokens should have flying. If you have a Planeswalker, you should be rewarded with the flyers to keep the attackers off you. It makes no sense to have ground creatures, when the designers know that players attack Planeswalkers. I mean, it doesn't even matter if the Planeswalker isn't even that great, players just get scared and auto-attack. Making them 4/4s might be too strong, because that gets into Angel Token territory, and you can go on the offensive, which this Commander is not designed to do. The Demon tokens are just to ward off would be attackers.
Eventually, after playing the deck a few times, I got better at understanding how to play this Commander. You generally need at least a few mill spells. I run Maddening Cacophony and Fractured Sanity, because that's enough to get things into someone's yard. I even have Tasha's Hideous Laughter - it doesn't help Tasha's ability but it does thin out their library, which combos with Oblivion Sower, which I also run in the deck. To round this out, I play Mnemonic Deluge, which late game can either do something really neat or help you mill out other players by targeting mill spells in your graveyard. Beware exile effects. Do run a few counter spells, and if someone plays Rest In Peace or another GY hate card, you had best use that counter spell without question. You need spells in other players' yards. Also, this is a deck that literally needs lots of mana rocks. I run at least 6 of them. If you aren't ramping, you aren't winning. I also have a lot of steal effects, like Blatant Thievery. This really helps out, because instead of removing threats, you just steal them. Displacer Kitten is an AUTO INCLUDE (Golden Pig), and is quite possibly the best card in CLB set. Lastly, effects like Propaganda work. I have Propaganda and Mirrormade, which can either make an extra propaganda or copy something spicy an opponent has. If you copy another opponents' Propaganda, you can have three of them - wouldn't that be nice? My last card to mention is Mnemonic Betrayal. This card, at first glance, seems to suck. Honestly, it is really only good mid to late game, when you have a lot of mana and they have a big graveyard. But, this can be a huge blowout. Combined with Oblivion Sower, you can get a bunch of lands on your battlefield to keep the turn going. Build Tasha to have a few different win cons, if possible.
The past two games I played with Tasha were "bonkers games." At my LGS I ended up dominating with Tasha, and one player said it was the "greatest magic game they ever witnessed." That might be exaggerating, but it was pretty crazy. I won against a Myriiam, Averna, and Go-Shintai decks at high-mid level, shockingly. It really all depends on what kind of super powerful spells you get in other players' yards, which is where the mill comes in handy. And, just yesterday, I ended up winning by milling out a Darien and a Wolfgar deck, facing down an army of 13 angels made from Darien and Divine Visitation. I had hit a Tasha's Previous Laughter two turns ago, on my last turn I got Maddening Cacophony kicked. On my final turn, I got a Displacer Kitten out, and then drew into a Mnemonic Deluge by blinking Tasha, and did Maddening Cacophony x3 to finish milling out my opponents.
This is really a fun Commander to play, especially when you've played a few games and get a feel for it. Planeswalker commanders are tough, but the Tasha ability is really good. If you have some dimir decks you aren't playing that much anymore, take them apart and build a Tasha deck. You will be happy you did!
King drop a decklist for this
Could you please post the deck list it would be really appreciated
Clearly you are someone who not just built the deck but enjoys it. But you gotta paste that decklist link here!!!
Deck lissssssst
decklist 🥺🥺🥺
Great build! In researching Tasha myself I don't think that spells like Wizard's Spell book would actually create Demon tokens because you are creating and casting copies which means you would then own the spell
exactly, I checked it while I was building a Tasha deck myself and it was unbelievable how many cards that created copies of spells where on EDHREC
flawless forgery also doesnt work for the same reason
I was actually about to build her as a commander. Thanks for giving me some inspiration on how to build my deck
Question. Have you ever thought about putting your lists onto Moxfield for people to look over? It's a lot easier for people who are less experienced (like me) to see the card types and understand how the decks are balanced.
after browsing through so many channels. Yours is by far the best. The explaining thod is so great and detailed even complex stuff is
Literally checked the channel earlier today for this deck and now I’ve got the notification and it’s what u wanted
I've been working on a Crosis discard deck and a Tasha deck, but I've wanted something very budget-friendly that I can build out right away, and this is perfect!
I really like your builds Mitch but I would love to see them in action. especially now with the new studio.
1:54 First up, you know it!
Yooo!!! I’ve been waiting for a good Tasha deck tech!
I played a jank Dimir control deck in arena for a bit that used thief of sanity and covetous urge. It was fun to play but you really have to play a just of ton of MTG to know the best lines to take and I just don't play enough anymore. Probably gonna build this. Looks like it could be a super fun in a casual setting.
I built, and played a few games with, this commander, and I will note displacer kitten is almost a must have, especially with that primordial. the deck was so fun, i watched a green sun get casted 5 times in one game (mostly by me). it does need a lot of setup to properly work sadly
I really love the new Ramirez commander coming out and this deck seems to be a similar sort or strategy to him. Id love to see a budget version with him sometime soon!!
After this, I would not wonder if someone would turn Tasha's Signature Spell into "Mitch's Hideous Laughter".
This Deck is devilishly good. Great work there as always^^
Would love to see some non-budget upgrades for this deck
Im glad the tactics are back
break the bank this commander please !!!!
i personally think the golden pig should be displacer kitten because it litterally lets you cast all spells with her -1 until you run out then you can +1 and get them all back under her then cast one spell and rinse and repeat the process
what is the point of evolving wilds or terramorphic expanse in decks that are 2 colors? wouldnt a tapped dual land just be as good?
As nice as this deck seems, I feel its one that can get very complicated to actually play very quickly. Why? Because of how many different "exile an opponent's card, you may cast it" effects there are.
Not the number, but the variety. Exile with one of a few counters on it, exile it and cast it this turn, exile it and cast it as long as you control the card that exiled it, exile it and cast it for free, exile it and cast it using mana of any colour, exile it and cast it for life. And you need to keep track of them all. Just Tasha and Nightveil Spectre would be two different kinds of exiled cards you can cast and you need to keep track of which is which.
So the more permanents you have out with that kind of effect, its almost like a new exile pile for each one to keep track of them, especially if Tasha isn't out for any reason and you have to hold on to whatever ones you can until she's out again.
So I like the concept, but I don't think I could ever play it myself.
When I still used the Prosper Tome-bound precon, I did this by putting the exiled card sideways under the card that exiled it. This works best with permanents though since you can't really keep instants and sorceries on the battlefield or anywhere nearby
There is also the blue Sphinx that don’t exile the instant or sorcery spell.
What a shocker....."First up, there's Wayfarers Bauble!".
ALL YOUR SPELL ARE BELONG TO US... sound about right doc also... pretty good deck
It’s a meme. Google “ All your base are belong to us”
After brewing with de deck a lot, indeed Tasha herself is a little bit over, with 5CMC. To best round that, take care with your mana curve. Any creature above 3 manas is a no go in my experience. Spells with heavy costs should be also reserved to changing boards effects/winning, not necessarily the "casting opponent spells" gimmicks, which can be done in more effective ways in low curve. A last note following that, you can easily have other ways of winning besides casting the opponent own best spells: You can easily mill out one opponent out of the game, you can combo the mill with effects like Duskmantle Guildmage and go for the win and other alternatives. I found ways to consistently gets around 10 demon tokens and cast Dread Charge/Dirge of Dread for the win, but also use a small reanimate engine with entomb, abusing Tasha effect and milling cards for a huge Sepulchral Primordial/Rise of the Dark Realms casting, which usually ends the game in a pretty unique fashion.
I don't think I'll build it, but Tasha will fit nicely in my sen triplets deck :)
Oh man I think I'm just gonna order this deck as is I love it!
Did you buy it? How did it go?
Holy shit when I went to TCGplayer they first quoted me at 1700 for the deck because covetous urge was 999.99 then when i went to played and heavily played no foil it was saying I wanted 2 of everything.
bro I would love to see you do a budget Ghoul caller Gisa deck tech😍
Narset's reversal on isochron scepter would be pretty annoying, essentially dropping a reusable reverse card with a copy effect.
Empress Galina, to steal commanders and any other legendary.
Agent of treachery, hullbreaker, thada adel, confiscate, bribery and mind flayer for some fun 👌
Those do not activate Tasha's ability thought, as you are copying/stealing opponent cards instead of casting them. Funny still but not very optimal
I built this deck but seeing this I realize I may have overlooked some cards.
Curious as to why you didn't include mind's dilation in this deck since it will trigger each time someone casts their first spell in each turn
I would remove nightveil specter and replace it with more ramp. You wouldnt be able to play a stolen card with a mana color you dont have. I say more ramp because you'd want to play more stolen cards.
Flawless Forgery dose not work. You make a copy of the card you exile and then cast the copy.
Don’t think I’ve ever been this early
Can we get a tatsunari ninja tribal deck?
I'm surprised he didn't mention displacer kitten cause that paired with tasha it just way too much
How do you make use of the Draugr Necromancer without the snow lands/mana?
Why does the Tasha deck list show blue-black and then RED pips toward the top?
I am looking for some upgrade cards any ideas?
Im sorry this is so long ago but does Tasha exile one card from each player????
I'm sure in the right hands she might be good. But I just don't see a Tasha deck winning to often if at all.
You don't have to win to have fun ;)
Sheeeesh
don't you need more snow mana sources to make Draugr Necromancer work?
For the record, my Golden Pig would be Xanathar, who isn't under a dollar, but also totally worth it.
WRONG LANDS you have Draugr Necromancer in the deck which means you need snow covered lands for the deck
I still like tibault more.
sweet
I want an absolute idiotic deck, that might no win but will make everyone laugh their lungs out. Is there something like that? Something so stupid, people won't be able to stop laughing.
Blim, comedic genius
why does no one mention elemental sciences for mana fixing
All your spell belong to us.
what, no word of command? lol