High Speed EV Efficiency Test w/ Porsche Taycan Turbo (ST) On The German Autobahn!
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- Kyle is back with a not so scientific high speed efficiency test where he rips the car on a German Autobahn to see what kind of realistic efficiency he can expect when pushing the Porsche Taycan Turbo in the real world.
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While this is not a typical loop-style accurate efficiency test that we normally do, hopefully this will give you some insight as to the consumption in fast EVs when cruising quickly. With this math, the Taycan typically travels around or just under 300 miles at highway speeds in this configuration, and we would be projecting around 90 miles of total range driving with this speed, including the slow construction zones!
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Welcome again Kyle on the air-strip-fastest-autobahn.. he he he.. that turbo Taycan does feels like a space-shuttle huh ?..
How many times does Kyle have to drive on the autoban before he buys an office in germany? xD
Once in a Rimac Nevera will do it
Hi Kyle. Great video. My average consumption in Germany mostly on the Autobahn with innodrive set at 150 (sometimes going faster) since putting on summer wheels is about 2.6 miles per kWh. This is a turbo cross tourismo. Continue with those great videos.
2.6.. not great!
This test really is unique. Thanks. I always wonered how quickly one would run out of energy.
I’ve never seen Kyle having so much fun driving. Great video
I recently drove across Germany and then back again in an ioniq 5. Worst consumption was 2.2 miles per kWh. 80 mile long stretch at 90 mph average with many squirts to 115 mph (top speed) when possible, due to traffic, construction sites and the fact that autobahns are not unrestricted for long stretches. Instead there are 120 km/h and 100 km/h etc. stretches and then back to unrestricted for a bit.
Very cool video. The Porsche did very well with thermal management. I grew up in Germany and I am often there. I like driving on the Autobahn. Besides that Germans are very disciplined, have lane discipline and look into their mirror before overtaking which you kind of mentioned, you should had mentioned that the Autobahn itself is very well build. Don’t think it would be safe to drive 170mph on an US Interstate. At least I would not want to hit a pot hole at that speed.
I'm not sure if you live in the US now, but I haven't had a pothole issue experience on the Interstate Highway System. Definitely not as well maintained off the interstate though. My wife is German and I love traveling on the Autobahn and seeing those beautiful 3 line signs telling me to go as fast as I want. But the main reason we lowered the speed limits was to ration gas after the Iran crisis in the 1970s. I think it's a little silly now because most people are driving 80-85 mph anyway. If I drove the speed limit on a US highway, I feel like it would be unsafe as everyone would just pass you by.
I agree about the lane discipline though. When I'm driving in Germany, people immediately get out of the way if I am approaching them - almost as if they are sorry to have inconvenienced me, whereas in the US, they'll get mad at you for "riding their ass" even though they're in the left lane. It's like there is no fast lane in the US. There are just 3 or 4 lanes and they're all the same haha. Cheers from Florida.
Great video Kyle
Great video indeed. But remember that your audience doesn't always think in miles. So try to toggle on the display both stats and measurements in miles and km. Please.
Thanks again for this shared experience Kyle.
Looks like you were having a lot of fun. Thanks for video. Maybe you could do a full review of the car??
Just looked at a Tycan/Audi GT and was amazes how small the interior is. At 6’5” I need the seat all the way back, which means I look directly at the B pillar and have trouble getting and out. No one could sit behind me as well. Really poor compared to a Panamerica.
as Einstein said, everything is relative, at 6’5” you are outside the typical driver/passenger format
@@andreh.dupuis8475 I have 4 Porsches sports cars, I fit in every one, this is supposed to be a sedan, possibly a family sedan. It’s small inside even compared to my daughters Mercedes C300
Gorgeous car
1. HUD, was it spec'd on yours. if so, how was it
2. was it comfortable to sit in and drive?
I am unable to test drive would have to buy first and I hate that.
Great to see an efficiency test like this
I am being distracted like a cat with those green pointer lights 🐈
I had a comparable consumption when driving over a pass to the Großglockner in the Alps. You don't have to drive suicidal, you can enjoy nature.
they say this like frysing, not freezing :-)
So, your range at speed ( 140-150 mph)is way less than 100 miles.
More likely 100 KM
@@victorc.979 120 km
This brings me back! Love the Autobahn
So at ~260km/h what is the approximate kW being used to maintain that speed? Probably easy to figure out, but not for me :)
Just having too much fun :) ;)
So I came up with approximately 84 kW average power output to go that distance in that amount of time.
If anyone cares... 1.77 km/kWh, used 62 kWh (of usable 83 kWh) to go 110 km in ~.74 hrs. 62 kWh/.74 h... tada 84 kw ~113 hp(?). Does it make any sense or am I terrible at math or does anyone care?
if was on day time would probably much crowded, no need for extra consumption of headlights,
but since in the night temperature drops is much better to go at high speeds, than try that in higher temp during day so yeah..
1/1.1 = 0.9kwh (miles) or 1/(1.1*1.61) = 0.56kwh (km). So about 3x the regular consumption
similar to IX travelling at 200 km/h takes 3 times more energy than 120 km/h
33 mpge at 160 mph. Not bad!
I just saw the F150 at 85 mph towing 4k lbs plus do about 1kwh per mile.
Have look at the Kempower chargers from Finland , very nice units
The colour looks awesome!! ❤
One hand on steering wheel and changing settings in the screen at 270 km/h, I think that speaks volumes to how stable this car is at speeds.
highway as well.. just imagine some deformed cracks, bumps in the paved section of the highway.. it would definitely fly off making impossible reaching such speeds..
I rember days where driving fast was possible at daytime for long distance. But at this old times my car was only driving at 180-190km/h.
Only a few times i borrowed a faster one, but this was fun. This freedome is shrinking for years now. I hope they never install a general limit on Autobahnen. But i fear they will do sometime.
You can still do that in east germany where there is not much Traffic
@@Knnnkncht that’s true.
While performance is indeed impressive it is worth mentioning that keeping your battery at or above 35C is literally toasting it, and if you start charging it at that temperature it is even worse for its longevity. A battery that's kept above 40C for 1 year at 40% SOC loses about 15% of its total capacity compared to 25C 4% capacity loss. 40C at 100% SOC will lose 40+% of total capacity in 3 months. There is an extensive study on Li-ion batteries and how it's affected by charging/discharging rates by a University in Missouri-Columbia and is well worth a read.
That doesn’t seem to be real world applicable - Tesla batteries run at high temps (50C+ is common when Supercharging) and they do not have anywhere near that level of degradation.
@@brandenflasch how is that not applicable? It’s li-on and there’s no way around it because it’s chemical properties of that material.
@@blimeydude9789 because the data shows otherwise.
@@brandenflasch point me to that data, I’d love to read it
@@blimeydude9789 every study of Tesla degradation shows very little and the batteries are very often run hot.
as they say in golf, grip it and rip it. Nice job!
At what moment applying the break pedal does mechanical/friction breaking kick in ?
Please get a remote microphone , difficult to hear you over the background noise at high speed otherwise 👍
Cool runnings! 👍🏼
Love it! Love it! Love the video!
Tesla overheats very quick. After Taycan increases their range, I think this will be by my first EV. There’s rumors that they want to make a long range version.
Actually the difference between a turbo and a turbo S is that the turbo S has a uprated inverter over the turbo. It's not just software.
Awesome run however I hate the Imperial numbers
24:13 The fact the chargers have a cube nearby means they run on batteries (and share the power if 2 cars are charging)!
Hi Kyle, could it be, that you charged at the Porsche Gilching dealer?
My guess as well :)
Great video
Scary
I drove an M3 (F80) on the A-bahn in 2015…while I could go 155 (gps) I was comfortable at about 130. Traffic and sight lines were the main issues.
I’m quite sure the M3 Performance has nothing on the Turbo, once you get rolling. Even the 4S is faster in all metrics other than 0-60, afaik 😄
Nice car but it costs about $100,000.
This one was specced to over $200k!
Even a toyota sienna is 60k with markup, but you can probably get a taycan at msrp
@@KyleConner wow, they will sell hundreds of these!! /s
@@cbuchner1 They sell every single one they make
So about 70 miles from normal range of 300. My concern is I run on a trip well over 70mph more like 80 to 90. With a small SUV like Ionic 5 I might be down to about 1/2 the range. Not going to cut it for me.
Interesting doing a test in Germany. My experience there was always that we in the US have better options for speed. While in Germany, I was always in a construction zone, reduced speed because of cities, traffic, or just not able to go fast for very long. When my German friends come visit us in Los Angeles, they no longer fly into LA, but rather fly into either Arizona or Nevada and rent a car to drive fast through the desert. It is actually easier to go fast here in the West than in Germany.
Depends on the region and time. Sunday morning, you won't find anyone on the AB and the closer you get to bigger cities, the more crowded it gets. But in general, since we are become the travel hub of Europe, things gotten worse.
Is the Tesla Model S Plaid, better at battery consumption at extreme high speed than the Porsche Taycan Turbo (ST) . I guess the massive battery in the Model S Plaid can absorb much more punishment...
It’s not much bigger than Taycan
Dream on, dude! You really have no fucking clue about Porsche engineering!
Porsches are developed here in Germany, for and on the Autobahn! Porsche Taycans actually have brakes, which are working properly at such high speeds for such a crazy heavy vehicle, whereas the Tesla Model S Plaid is simply useless here in Germany, with its fucking ridiculously non-existent brakes!
Tesla Model S Plaid brakes are simply trash and potentially dangerous on the German Autobahn, period!
On the Autobahn some cars drive much faster than 200 mph on the left lane, against some trucks with only 60 mph on the right lane. A speed delta of 140 mph or 220 kmh is something, which a Plaid just can't handle with its fucking shitty and useless brakes, dude!
Honestly, German authorities should or even must force Tesla, to take this shit on wheel vehicle from the German market, period!
The Model S Plaid is too dangerous for the German Autobahn, because having only a stupidly fast EV without almost any functioning brakes at high speed is something, which is too shitty dangerous for German high speed roads!
Porsche due to its 70 years experience of performance vehicles is on a whole different level, when it comes to driving, braking and steering such a heavy EV!
I think it's still a huge difference, getting a performance EV from a 19 times Le Mans 24 hours overall winner, who has some more 110 class victories at LeMans, instead of getting a shitty big mouth one trick pony vehicle from an EV startup company called "Tesla", which still has no fucking clue how a true performance EV handles, brakes and drives!
Tesla Plaid models are just like trash on wheels, and just good enough for stupid drag racing idiocy in the USA.
Just like its CEO, Tesla still builds trash build quality too... LOL.
This video shows the difference how much better a DSLR or pro video camera is in low light. My Canon Eos 90d or XF 705 would give very good quality in low light.
How many times have you butchered saying “Chesapeake Climate Action Network Action Fund”? 😂
Be still. I'm getting seasick.🤢🤮
In general I congratulate you on your videos however, this one is the most irresponsible video I have seen in a long time. Yes, you are right germans are very disciplined and look in the mirror before changing lanes. But non germans like you, are permitted to drive there too. At 270 you move 75m a second and at night it is impossible to judge the speed of lights coming up from behind. A truck driver may look in the mirror and there is a light far far away, by the time the truck is moving it will be too late for you to stop. Most reasonable people will not drive this fast at night, and doing so with one hand on the wheel while talking to the camera is beyond my understanding. This kind of videos encourage others to do the same with maybe deadly consequences, which gives the the officials who want to put a speed limit on our Autobahn more reasons to do so. If you want to do high speed tests, the Nuerburg Ring welcomes you. Don't do it on a public road endangering non participating people.
A German Model 3 driver
Are you gatekeeping driving fast on the Autobahn?
Not sure about your experiences, but I usually do long distances at night and most people are speeding like crazy.
Separating between 'German' and 'Non-German' drivers seems pretty weird, it's not like German driving school tells you how to drive at 270.
Kommt mir so vor als wärst du allgemein für ein Tempolimit (was ich auch unterstütze), aber den Unterschied zwischen nem Deutschen und nicht Deutschen LKW Fahrer auf der rechten Spur sehe ich nich so richtig.
@@triangulatedcircle Ich bin grundsätzlich für verantwortliches fahren, was ein Tempolimit nicht nötig machen würde. Leider war mein Kommentar wohl nicht ganz klar.
Let's continue in english for the non german speakers.
Kyle mentioned the discipline of the germans while driving on the Autobahn. I only pointed out that there are other people too. The truck driver is just an example of speed difference in conditions (night) where you and the truck is limited to the distance of the car lights, not a reference to country of origin . I have driven thousands of kilometers on the Autobahn at speeds past 200 km/H over the last 40 years with a some hard or even emergency braking due to traffic moving into my lane. My observation was, that a high percentage of those license plates where non german plates, maybe caused by drivers not expecting the car from behind is moving this fast.
Avoiding something like a tire part or other debris is already challenging in daytime, almost impossible at more than 250 km/h at night. Just my personal opinion.
I hope this cleared up some misunderstanding.
I couldn't drive at long distances at 150mph, nor would i want to. Even 80 to 85mph is plenty fast (almost too fast) on the interstate. I notice a drop off in mpg once i get above 75mph or so in my 4cyl fossil. Really high speeds in autos are dumb--just take an airplane and go 500mph or even high speed rail (if you are in Europe).
Both the airplane and the ICE are slower than a fast car on the Autobahn at night. Keep in mind you don’t start your trip at the airport or at the train station. Also the car is way cheaper, even with the higher consumption.
Too overpriced
German chargers are in horrible locations as well...
Most of them are right next to the highway or on rest stops at the highway. Charging at a dealerships is not a very typical charging location (though this specific dealer is just a kilometer off the highway, but no restaurants etc. around)
Why do all electric cars look the same? What a boring dystopia.
Every EV has no exhaust pipes in common. 😜
@@abraxastulammo9940 and no earshattering noise from overloud exhaust pipes or loud engine.