It was supposed to be his band Interview which resurfaced after he (Jimmy) died. Sorry to inflict but you'll have to search for his interview with Penis Morgan for the audio.
what are you expecting comedians to start arresting people? pretty sure its police matter, fact that they are comedians just makes them tell jokes about it, but what they really are doing is getting this matter public... not sure comedians are at fault here
People need to realise that the comedians on here making comments on Savile was not them knowing and not willing to do anything to expose it, it was them knowing, but being restrained due to knowing Savile would sue them if they dared to accuse him, his power was immense, so this was the best they could do.
People have made jokes for years about Michael Jackson blowing Bubbles, if it ever comes out that he actually did we’ll have some folks demanding to know how come all these people knew but never stopped him. Such is life.
Everyone knew. Imagine being one of his many victims, and seeing the allusion to his crimes being paraded on sitcoms and radio for laughs. Knowing that everyone kind of knows, at least it FEELING like that and nothing, and I mean nothing, is being done about it. How creepy and powerless it must of felt. Those poor bastards. I honestly, hope and pray, they can continue their lives with some happiness and be at peace with themselves.
“Everyone knew” Bollocks. Did they fuck. Every knee in the same way that everyone ‘knew’ that Marc Almond had a pint of spunk pumped from her stomach or that everyone ‘knew’ there was a video of Victoria Principle using a cucumber as a dildo. The Saville ‘rumours’ were just another one of those daft pre-internet memes that went around pubs and schoolyards.
It was an open secret, and no one can change my mind. Nobody could go that long without someone working behind the scenes to silence the literal hundreds of victims.
That very last scene about the mortuary. That was quite chilling. He requested to be in the mortuary alone with his mother's body. His mother was publicly known to beat him up as a child. He was in there for five hours. Something tells me that's five hours I don't want to know about.
@@ottagol1985 Rapists typically get off on dominating their victims on different levels, emotional and psychological as well as physically ie sexually. They enjoy inflicting pain and humiliation as it makes them feel powerful, much like a school bully. Saville was known to frequent the Stoke Manderville hospital morgue, seemingly to take sexual advantage of dead bodies. Saville's mother was apparently a harsh disciplarian who never showed him kindness, which likely explains how he turned into the above description, because he wanted to dominate others' emotional lives the way she dominated his. When alone with her body, he had an opportunity to finally exact revenge in a way he couldn't in life, by sexually dominating and humiliating her by raping or sexually abusing her while she was dead. It's believed likely that is what he was doing in there for those five hours.
This is how they got the word out to the public. If Saville sued a comedy sketch it would have all but confirmed it, since the comedians could just claim satire.
I love the song Panic by the Smiths in 1986. With lyrics like: "The Leeds side streets you slip down" "The provincial towns you jog around" And don't forget the chorus accompanied by a children's choir: "Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ".
@@stephenhorgan7110 The Leeds side streets you slip down and provincial towns you jog around... Please explain what those lines have got to do with the state of popular music in the 80s?
Don't blame the comedians and lower ranking employees who didn't have power for making jokes about the powerful. Blame the people at the heads of companies who let this sort of thing go on. It isn't as if comedians have some special power to fire people or prosecute.
All the comedians were just going on "rumours" you can't blame them for not acting on "rumours". Also, as was pointed out by Richard Herring in his podcasts, Jimmy Savile was very litigious.
It’s insane to me that so many people think that comedians can launch investigations and arrest people. It’s so bafflingly confused. Do people seriously have no understanding of law, police, courts, etc ? People are angry at Stewart Lee for not doing…. what, exactly? Like what in gods name does anyone think these people could have done beyond raising awareness in a way that slipped through censorship and didn’t get them sued and/or fired
That's not why those old Kings had Court Jesters. Those Jesters were there so the King had someone above the Law, who could point any abuses of power with impunity.
Not any more. That has changed in the USA in November 2016 when Donald Trump was elected president. The liberal socialist Democrats lost their mnds, and looking for a scapegoat. A comedian (who is not using comedy to bash Trump) is the #1 target
I found that last piece of footage extremely harrowing. For some reason the fact it was followed by that static just really hit me. Its beyond words the whole situation. Saville was a real monster
I think it's easy to say everyone knew. Hearing things and knowing for a fact are very different things. We all hear things about certain people and form an opinion in our head without actually truly knowing. The people who were most likely to actually know were the suits in charge of the various institutions he frequented. I think relatively few people actually knew. But the stories and rumours were so widespread that nobody was surprised by the revelations.
My jaw hit the floor with lee and herring at the end, everybody at the bbc mustve known how depraved saviles acts had got but had there hands tied by the men upstairs. Almost makes you feel sick.
+BlandNutz That went out at Sunday Lunchtime as well, it wasn't a late night show as you might imagine. I don't think anyone's hands were tied by the men upstairs. Just noone had anything other than rumour to go on, and Saville was such a popular figure no one was brave enough to tackle him.
@@marksouthall4508 apparently Thatcher pushed through his inclusion on the Honours List against Civil Service advice. She was fully briefed and still went ahead and honoured him.
The shocking part is the very specific nature of what was known- they knew he was fiddling with bodies in the morgue- so clearly a lot of people had seen and heard things that became common knowledge.
Exactly. That must mean that workers in the hospitals basically knew, or strongly suspected, what was going on. And then they told their mates, and word spread into the wider public. Crazy that word can spread in that way, and still not lead to any police inquiry. But, as recent dramatization The Reckoning confirms, Savile used all kinds of power play to keep the authorities in his pocket and shut down possible inquiries.
They didn't really know. Stewart Lee and Richard Herring talk about it in Herring's podcast here: th-cam.com/video/br7sxRPqMZU/w-d-xo.html They thought the necrophilia was an insane rumor spread as a joke. It would be like reporting Richard Gere to the animal welfare authorities for animal abuse because you heard the gerbil rumor 13th-hand.
the whole establishment knew and were in on it, MI5, MI6, BBC, Westminster, Police, Clergy, Royals the whole lot ... and murdered Jill Dando because she was going to expose them all
To the angry mob on here screaming they all knew, I don't think there was one person in uk who didn't think Saville was a bit too keen around kids. We just didn't realise the scale and severity.
@@leftmono1016 People did know back then. When I was a kid in school in the 80's, some kids who were crap at sport were called Joey (Joey Deacon of Blue Peter fame, if you don't know who I mean). Other creepier kids were called Jimmy. I also bumped into Saville in a restaurant at Glencoe in the early 2000s and he invited me and my mate back to his holiday house for some tea. My mate wouldn't go and I said we'd be alright as we were too old for him then.
@@nigelblockhead80 - ‘Joey’ was very common in the playground back in my day, but no one was ever called Jimmy. Even after the Theroux documentary he only came over as very strange, certainly not as the beast we know he was. Some very unlucky kids knew what he was, and so did a very select number of adults who shamefully turned a blind eye, but that’s a tiny minority of the population.
There's one from Drop The Dead Donkey, where one newsroom colleague says to the other: Henry: 'Just heard some unsettling rumours at the club.' Damien: 'Not Jimmy Savile again?'
Savile was never pinched because he would have grassed up all the big wigs, politicians, household beloved celebrities etc, who were into similar....'hobbies' A lot of the footage in the compilation were live transmissions (or recorded so close to transmission date that they couldn't have the Savile material removed) I wish Frank & David would bring back Fantasy Football League.
A lot in government, people high up in the BBC, big business men and the royals did and still do have the same ‘hobbies’. Powerful people with armies behind them. Lots know, but with no or little evidence what can you do? They will do you for slander and ruin your career and your life. Saville may not even have been the worst. Blood is on some of them peoples hands.
Some of the victims' accounts I've seen spoke of being assaulted by multiple men at the BBC, or of being taken to "parties"JS attended where men took children into bedrooms. If JS got taken down, he would take a hell of a lot of other people with him, and they knew it.
You can have a suspicion about someone but no evidence. I suspect the fact that for decades people could say these things without litigation, means he was probably guilty and couldn't sue for slander.
Well, the gratifying thing is that it's come back to bite the BBC in the arse big time. It must feel not only vindicating but rewarding to know that in some small way he's assisted in making the BBC look bad...which may I interject the company deserves to be. It's why now, I think more than ever that the government really needs to look in to scrapping the TV licence. People who are genuinely disgusted and maybe want to stop watching and aid in funding the BBC should be aloud to do so without having the ability continue watching other channels taken away from them. I dislike having to sit through advertisment's which no doubt they'd eventually have to find funding through, but I'd still rather have that than the alternative we have now.
I doubt that Lydon trawls TH-cam looking for copyright infringements. Also, I can't imagine that he himself would object to yet another airing of a piece of evidence that HE knew the shameful truth and tried to get it out there 40 years ago.
Lydon wouldn't need to trawl youtube, they simply add the album to a database and youtube automatically looks for similarities of audio files of all uploads. It's not some dude sat there listening.
I remember watching the now infamous Loius Theroux, Saville documentary. There's no mention of rumours, accusations about him, at all, but Saville can't resist goading Theroux about how "tricky" he is. He was repeating "I'm tricky, you see" & smiling at the camera, finishing it with, can't catch me. It was blatant, Saville knew about the rumours & how bad they were getting, he just couldn't resist boasting about his protected status.
Problem was it just seemed as if Saville had a personal dislike of Theroux and that that was why he was evading him - the fact that he was seen conversing freely with Therouxs camera man / crew in between these scenes and after hours only compounded this and made the documentary counterproductive in my view, presenting Saville merely as some kind of Howard Hughes style eccentric rather than a terminal wrong'un.
@@eliasblum753 Let's not forget his big friend, the one with actual power, Maggie Thatcher. She presided over a cabinet of paedos, took over from kiddy-murderer Ted Heath, and is the forerunner of the current crop of Eton perverts.
@@KismetMulhaneski-to3wg To me I expected the Theroux thing to show himup if he was 'sosgy' but if anything Theroux cleared his reputation by showing him to just be a weird but harmless guy. Maybe that was the intention all along as I cannot believe that Louis Theroux is some kind of hero. He is just a tv guy like the rest of them and it seems it was his job that day to help Saville.
Well played. I remember most of the "Nudge and wink jokes" came out during the mid-late 90's after Jimmy finished up the Fix it show. There must be more out there.
Marc Zero I remember listening to Johnny Vaughan on the London BBC station GLR on a Sunday in summer 1997 and he made similar veiled comments about Savile. He recalled driving down the motorway and hearing on the radio that Savile was to be knighted; said how he had to pull over as he just couldn't believe what he was hearing. Slightly confusing to follow at the time, as I didn't know what Vaughan was referring to.....but it's clear now
i recorded `so-vile' off the radio lots for about 6 years (from 1979 to 1985 or something) - i put all the tapes in a draw and forgot about them for decades. when the scandal broke after he died i decided to check the tapes to see if he had fooled me by saying things in a coded way etc - but he hadn't said anything like in this youtube video - there was certainly nothing to give to investigators that was worth anything anyway - so he tricked me and millions of others completely. (the only thing really was he always bragged about his photographic memory - but when questioned by police he merely made vague denials - wouldn't he have given perfect alibis if having a photographic memory like he always said on the radio?)
Saville used to do the London Marathon (apparently). It was either the 1989 or the 1991 London Marathon (I tend to think it was the 1989 one), when I passed him and his entourage in South London. He was playing the crowd. Then quite some time later, I passed him again along the Embankment, yet he hadn't overtaken me. you couldn't miss him, the way he was dressed. I could only assume that he took a short cut around Tower Bridge.
He never completed a marathon in his life. He was well known for being picked up and dropped off at strategic points. It wasn't a secret, he always made excuses of 'other appointments' leading to time constraints.
i have an audio tape of him getting caught by an official whilst taking a short cut - but investigators said the tape didn't prove anything outright - i let too many years pass i suppose (the official probably can't be traced now).
I officiated at the 10 mile mark of a big half-marathon in the '80s and he never went past me. It's not like I could have missed him in his gold tracksuit
When I was a kid, "Jim'll Fix it" was beamed into our living rooms every Saturday teatime. It didn't take me very long (Half an hour) to realise he was a total wrongcock, and I was only seven, and hardly the brightest bulb in the box.
Years and years ago, early 1980s I believe, James Whale had Savile on his radio show and had a call-in. One bloke, who I recall being very well spoken, started asking Jimmy about his interest in children, such as"you really "like" kids, don't you, Jimmy?' , and so on. That was the first time I was aware of anything nefarious about Jimmy Savile. Oddly (is there anything NOT odd in relation to Savile..?) I heard the news of the investigation in to Savile's proclivities from a Chinese TV news channel when I was in Beijing. The TV was silent but had English subtitles turned on.
He also mooned at the camera on an LWT show many years before even the rumours came out. This was even photographed offscreen and reported (in The Daily Mirror I think). I remember thinking at the time that was rather odd behaviour for a so-called 'National Treasure'. Especially one with a largely under 18 / juvenile audience.
I wonder if that may be why the otherwise brilliant Whale ended up being relegated to doing very late night phone-ins on Talk Radio in the 90s... Maybe even why TR ended up turning into a sport station rather than all kinds of topics. I did tape some of those shows as a teenager because they seemed very interesting and possibly even historically valuable, maybe I should dig them out and play them, see if there's anything that's become much more important over time.
Discussion by Lee and Herring regarding their bit at the end: th-cam.com/video/br7sxRPqMZU/w-d-xo.htmlm34s I'd imagine most of the jokes would have come from a similar position - not a position of actual knowledge but simply from what they presumed at the time were outlandish rumours.
I remember the good old days when stars' sexual abuse of fans especially children was an acceptable topic for a comedy routine. In fact, I worked in a psychiatric hospital where one psychiatrist refused to believe sexual abuse negatively affected anyone from the working classes as paedophilia was endemic in the 'lower orders' and so 'normal' thus ok for proles to carry on with their natural behaviour. And I am talking about the 1980s.
I'd believe it. When I lived in the UK, I noticed a troubling number of people knew their place in life and thought it strange to question authority. Certain behaviour seemed acceptable if you were seen as successful or upper class.
This is how it is in show biz. Everybody always knows. People we're making jokes about Kevin Spacey for decades. I remember my roommates brother, who was an AD, telling me a story about how Spacey stole away Brian Singer's 16yr old boyfriend and arranged it so Singer would walk in on Spacey getting head from the kid and he told him "Who's the bitch now?!" Because apparently Singer had called him a bitch earlier in the day. I heard this story like 7 years ago... That's why is hilarious to me when people clutch their pearls and act like they had no clue, like the whole thing with Harvey Weinstein, and all these people like Oprah trying to act like they're taking a stand when they literally knew about it for decades.
Lets never forget the BBC and the entertainment industry knew about this and did nothing. Xlosed down artists, comedians, actors, public speakers anyone who mentioned what he done. Then they pretended they figured it out after he died so it didnt become a scandal against them. The only tragedy in his death is that it didnt happen 60 years sooner.
Hilarious how they all know its happening while its happening but waits until they have permition to say it, kinda makes you wonder who is doing it right now that they aren't allowed to say.
Should have also included the Half Man Half Biscuit song 'I Left My Heart In Papworth General' which has the lyric 'and get that small boy off your knee...'
What about the Freddy Royle character in Irvine Welsh's book "Ecstacy" from the 1990s? "“Freddy Royle had had, by his standards, a tiring day prior to his late afternoon arrival at St. Hubbin’s. He had been in the television studios all morning filming an episode of From Fred With Love. A young boy, whom Fred had sorted out to swim with dolphins at Morecambe’s Marineland, while his grandparents were brought back to the scene of their honeymoon, was all excited in the studio and writhed around in his lap, getting Freddie so aroused and excited that they had to do' several takes.”
Mighty have more gravitas if Welsh had used any other nom-de-plume other than "Welsh" really. It's flagrantly obvious he's nae Walsh. Just read the dialogue in any of his novels for a couple of chapters turns your own internal dialogue intae some keen dae' "heid the ball" unintelligible skronky dialuct frae the moost impoverished o' Govan's schemie sink estates. Ah kin barely folla me ain fuckin' thoughts eftir readin a cupple o' peeges av huz funnetically spelt soo called "Buks". An I've nivver e'en bin North ae' fruggin' Bristol in me entire fuckin' puff".
Ai dinnae e'en comprehen' one waird o' porridge wog before I unwittingly flicked troo a chapter er tae a his ' "Fulth" or mebbe "Treenspoatin'". Noo i heftae attund alluv thi Rangers vs Selltuk Durbysgain, an ai dinnae e'en boather wit' the fitbae in mi ain Sundae league fuxtures.
@@terrra_2024 "Ah kin barely folla me ain fuckin' thoughts eftir readin a cupple o' peeges av huz" - as someone who has read some of Welsh's work written in this dialectic form, I can assure you that this is a lie, and also I agree with what you say, it is certainly a tedious and unfunny joke.
@@ٴٴٴٴ_0 it's strange but I think of him as two different people. Almost as if I cant believe he did those bad things though know he did. I met the "jim from the TV" not the "jim from the news stories" if you know what I mean???
I guess all in all, I don't blame Lydon for wanting to control that footage. He tried to tell the truth about Savile and got canned from the BBC for years as punishment for doing so.
Trouble was that Lydon generally acted like an obnoxious kid. Difficult to take seriously as all he wanted to to was cause controversy whatever the subject.
I once heard a radio show program on bbc cant remember which one, when part of the story included a reference to savile and went something like....and around the corner he met " the three headed savile monster" this was about 20 years ago...
Something that no one has mentioned in the comments is how the audience is laughing too. Because they got the references. They'd heard the rumours too. Many, many people were in on the joke, not just people within the industry. It's just no one actually believed the rumours behind the jokes.
I think they are laughing because Saville 'looked like a paedo,' and I imagine that they thought it was a joke about that. He had a creepy vibe. I had never heard the rumours growing up myself but obviously if you worked at the BBC you would have known.
Very very few people knew about him. Especially those outside the industry you obvious troll. It would be everyone's fault if everyone knew and did nothing, you complete nonsense.
Sad thing is you can’t just go to the police and say this bloke is weird. There will be people who actually knew things and covered it up, these comedians were joking based on hearsay.
@@jpalvarez4972 Nope, I disagree. Terry Wogan knew and stated as such in a newspaper interview. He actually discussed Savile's true nature with a newspaper editor at an event that Savile attended. He asked the editor if she would expose Savile's crimes. She told Wogan that was something he would have to do. Ironically, Terry Wogan raised funds for Children in Need.
@@freedomvigilant1234 no it was in fact the other way around...l've read about that....jean rook who was a veteran newspaper editor for the daily mirror saw savile at the event. And when she was with wogan. She reportedly asked wogan at the event that took place in the late 1990s. ''when are you lot going to expose savile''?...and wogan reportedly replied back to rook. ''That's your lot's job'.
@@freedomvigilant1234 yeah that's fine...a lot of people who worked at the BBC have admitted since the scandal that they had heard rumours about savile. But nothing more
So many people with "they so obviously knew." They knew the rumours, they didn't - couldn't - have known the truth or how true the rumours were or how serious it was. Many people knew about individual incidents, perhaps, but no-one put together the big picture until after he died - until after the Christmas special celebrating his life after he died, when his victims finally felt the situation had become too revolting not to speak out and reporters started putting the different stories together.
To be honest, I wonder how many of them actually knew something: even before it came out, he was just a pretty creepy weirdo and easy to make jokes about that he could be into a lot of dodgy things.
@Vim Fuego I’ll take your word for that, I have no idea, I’ve never read anything. He always gave off really bad vibes though. If someone had said “Jimmy Savile has sex with the dead” I suspect a hell of a lot of people would be like “yeah.. actually I can believe that”
@@CLaw-tb5gg The real problem in a situation like this isn't that people are turning a blind eye to it, but you have to know actual specifics and have a witness willing to go forward. Even Lydon never directly said what he knew in the banned BBC Radio interview. I saw the Netflix documentary, and the most disturbing part on this front was that there was a point where there were three witnesses willing to talk to police, but the police never told them that others existed, and none was willing to testify for fear of being the only one.
The journalist Mark Lawson tells a story that when he was at a Leeds match in the 80s there was a temporary crowd crush and he remembers someone shouting out "don't die because you'll get taken to hospital and f*cked by Jimmy Saville" (he was a volunteer porter at Leeds General Infirmary) the man on the street knew.
There was also a scene in the KYTV KY Telethon where a load of people were doing a charity run and Jimmy Savile was mentioned and that the runners were all running because Jimmy Savile was coming. They all knew but were powerless to do anything because of his strong influence and powerful connections.
@@glamdolly30 Edwina curry gave him a good character ref and he got access to a hospital. Schofield and willohby gave the jim ill fix it producer an easy interview. Top advisors have since been deciding to alter sex education to include fore play/sex acts instead.
@@user-yp3oj5se1i Serial rapist, paedophile and necrophile Savile escaped any negative consequences for his offending his entire life, due to the patronage of MANY powerful people. He could not have continually escaped justice otherwise. My comment referred specifically to his knighthood, which was thanks to the determination of his old ally Margaret Thatcher alone, who pushed it forward despite repeated Whitehall attempts to block it.
I heard the rumour about his mortuary activities while driving through Wolverhampton in 1979, my point being, if it had reached that far then everybody in TV MUST have known
Spitting Image had a sketch, after he got a knighthood (shows you what they’re worth......)asking him how he wanted to be addressed in future: Was it -Sir James -Sir Jimmy, or -You sad man.......
Jimmy Carr on 'Christ Tarrant: A Comedy Roast' (9 April 2010): Tarrant was once mistaken for another DJ:' Jimmy Savile . Which is ridiculous. Chris doesn’t have that much luck with the ladies. lf Jimmy Savile could hear this now, he’d be turning in his grave. What’s that? (holds hand to ear) Jimmy Savile’s not dead? Well, what was he doing in that grave? Oh, Jimmy...
Should have added the Jonny Rotten audio - it was fabulous what he said about sadistic Saville and the BBC cover-ups. He said that it seemed everyone knew what the sadistic-necro did. When he pointed-out his behaviour, he was told, 'Oh, that's just Jimmy'.
Turn the screen off. You know the light from cell phones and laptops mimics sunlight and triggers the brain to wake up?! Sorry for the tangent from the video, but now you know ;)
Are You Being Served had a running joke in which Mr Humphries alluded to being molested as a boy by a man working with his church choir. The line always got a laugh from the live audience in the early-mid 70s. What does that say of the audience - in the studio and at home?
On my way back to university on a train in about 1990 there were two Sunday Sport journalists at my table giggling over what Jimmy Savile was up to. I was unaware at the time and they said it'd only all come out after he died, as there wasn't enough evidence to go to court. I kept on about this until he died, and then looked pretty stupid for about 18 months until the truth did come out, and it was loads worse than anyone expected. It WAS a coverup.
This is not comedy it's cowardly celebs being used to make a child abuser look like a non child abuser by making the abuse be interpreted as non real/a joke. As an american you might have seen Bob saget's celeb friends try to joke about child abuse.
You are a troll. Starr shut the child endangering schofield up. You have no evidence that Starr was friends with saville. Star did several very good impressions. His degenerate lawyers told him to pay off some accusers that said he insulted them. That made it seem to people like you that Starr had raped someone.
There was a comedy show on in Scotland every new year when I was a child called scotch & wry and I remember a sketch from it ware Ricky Fulton the star of the show chucks a plate of slop over a poster of Jimmy savile my father believes it was a shot at the British railway because he was there face for a while advertisement wise and also it was set in a train station cafe but since everything has came out I'm not so sure I think savile was well known and Fulton was very Christian living in his personal life so it wouldn't surprise me if he was trying to send a message even then. The show was only seen in Scotland I think but does anyone else remember that episode?
Russell brand made a joke on his radio show about shagging dead bodies and Noel Gallagher chimes in with “what like Jimmy saville” and Russell told him to shush
There was an interview in loaded or FHM magazine back in 97 when he talks a lot about loving the dead, and a lot about his mothers clothes, very silence of lambs. I ALWAYS thought he was a creep though even as a kid.
There's an episode of Drop The Dead Donkey where a character takes another one aside to tell him something. "Is it those rumours about Jimmy Savile again?", he asks.
The reason saville wasnt outed back then was that he was part of the establishment just like a judge will back a policeman due to being' - part of the establishment... No ones gonna doubt the chain of order of life and society whatever they do say or beleive...but things are apparently different now!
I think people's outrage about the absurdity of everyone knowing and noone doing anything betrays the ill founded belief that Britain is a functioning, just and democratic society - while they're looking at the irrevocable evidence that it isnt - and never has been. When people stop kidding themselves that this state works, we might be able to start improving it.
I'll be honest John Lydon staring at me in silence for 30 seconds was a bit awkward 😳
It was supposed to be his band Interview which resurfaced after he (Jimmy) died. Sorry to inflict but you'll have to search for his interview with Penis Morgan for the audio.
Lool I know the interview, its when he says he would like to kill Jimmy Saville, you made me chuckle with Penis Morgan tho 🤣
Still made me laugh.
@@_Greebo_ And now for something completely different.
Almost put me off my granola.
Well done to all involved to stopping him in his tracks when he died.
Instead of exposing this monster they made jokes about it
Money all theses people who say now
They knew bout him
they should be in court
Brilliant! Shame there's no 'laugh' response icon on youtube comments.
Sadville was well known to sue any who did blab
what are you expecting comedians to start arresting people? pretty sure its police matter, fact that they are comedians just makes them tell jokes about it, but what they really are doing is getting this matter public... not sure comedians are at fault here
People need to realise that the comedians on here making comments on Savile was not them knowing and not willing to do anything to expose it, it was them knowing, but being restrained due to knowing Savile would sue them if they dared to accuse him, his power was immense, so this was the best they could do.
savile would never sue. he would have just had them blacklisted. ask sex pistols john how that worked out for them.
But everyone of them should have been called to the enquiry to explain why these jokes were made at the time and what they knew.
@@NPA1001 It is not as simple as that
People have made jokes for years about Michael Jackson blowing Bubbles, if it ever comes out that he actually did we’ll have some folks demanding to know how come all these people knew but never stopped him.
Such is life.
Francis Rossi from Quo said that when they were starting in the music business. "Beware the Leeds Mafia" They would destory your career.
Everyone knew.
Imagine being one of his many victims, and seeing the allusion to his crimes being paraded on sitcoms and radio for laughs. Knowing that everyone kind of knows, at least it FEELING like that and nothing, and I mean nothing, is being done about it. How creepy and powerless it must of felt. Those poor bastards.
I honestly, hope and pray, they can continue their lives with some happiness and be at peace with themselves.
It must have felt like no one have a rat's arse about them. Very, very cold.
Yep. Totally grim
“Everyone knew”
Bollocks. Did they fuck.
Every knee in the same way that everyone ‘knew’ that Marc Almond had a pint of spunk pumped from her stomach or that everyone ‘knew’ there was a video of Victoria Principle using a cucumber as a dildo.
The Saville ‘rumours’ were just another one of those daft pre-internet memes that went around pubs and schoolyards.
the right perspective to take on this.
@@automaticninjaassaultcat3703 IF??!
Well I think its going to take me some time to get over my silent staring contest with John Lyndon.
Why was that even put in here?😂
@@AbrasiousProductions the audio for that bit was removed because of copyright but it was audio from the 70s of Lydon saying that Saville is a creep
You'll never win that one, doob.
"If they do (die) bagsy I take them to the mortuary" is such a good one 😭
It was an open secret, and no one can change my mind. Nobody could go that long without someone working behind the scenes to silence the literal hundreds of victims.
The establishment sorted it.
It was the BBC
Him and Prince Charles were good friends it’s probably why Andrew got into it
Just like how *everyone* in Hollywood knew about Harvey Weinstein. Everyone.
Literal hundreds? What the fuck do you think that means?😅😅
We should all have a moment everyday where we stare at John Lydon and ponder our lives.....
We need a Community Page to choose the soundtrack...
I'd like that
John always looks as though he's putting the world to rights even when he isn't talking. Top bloke.
State of him now. He's ballooned up beyond recognition and is still desperately trying to style those 4 ginger guitar strings on his head.
@@rnw2739 Yes mate he's getting older. It happens.
That very last scene about the mortuary. That was quite chilling.
He requested to be in the mortuary alone with his mother's body.
His mother was publicly known to beat him up as a child.
He was in there for five hours. Something tells me that's five hours I don't want to know about.
What? You think he may have five hours to beat up the corpse?
@@ottagol1985 Hahaha! No. More grim than that.
@@ottagol1985 I don't want to ruin your innocent mind.
@@ottagol1985 Rapists typically get off on dominating their victims on different levels, emotional and psychological as well as physically ie sexually. They enjoy inflicting pain and humiliation as it makes them feel powerful, much like a school bully. Saville was known to frequent the Stoke Manderville hospital morgue, seemingly to take sexual advantage of dead bodies. Saville's mother was apparently a harsh disciplarian who never showed him kindness, which likely explains how he turned into the above description, because he wanted to dominate others' emotional lives the way she dominated his. When alone with her body, he had an opportunity to finally exact revenge in a way he couldn't in life, by sexually dominating and humiliating her by raping or sexually abusing her while she was dead. It's believed likely that is what he was doing in there for those five hours.
@@imcallingjapan2178 ...
Christ almighty on a pogo stick...
" HE loves HER slot". It's no joke, it is said clearly out of frustration and bloody mindedness, as in " fuck this, fuck him,I'm saying it".
If you can't say it blatantly use innuendo instead like Bidle and Skinner did.
Baddiel I stand corrected there.
if they knew something they should have gone to the police, but they didn't cos they wanted their career , therfore they ate complicit.
are complicit.
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This is how they got the word out to the public. If Saville sued a comedy sketch it would have all but confirmed it, since the comedians could just claim satire.
A more innocent time, when most of us just thought Savile interfered with the dead
I think that was the narration on BBC4's 50 Years of Television Centre?
😂😂😢
I love the song Panic by the Smiths in 1986. With lyrics like:
"The Leeds side streets you slip down"
"The provincial towns you jog around"
And don't forget the chorus accompanied by a children's choir:
"Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ, Hang the DJ".
That song was more about the popular music at the time and how Morrissey hated it but I get what you're tryna do😂
He wasn't all bad.
He fixed it for my sister to milk a cow blindfolded 😮
@@bigtone1348 your sister was blindfolded or the cow. or the cow?
@@bigtone1348 I know :-(
@@stephenhorgan7110
The Leeds side streets you slip down and provincial towns you jog around...
Please explain what those lines have got to do with the state of popular music in the 80s?
Don't blame the comedians and lower ranking employees who didn't have power for making jokes about the powerful. Blame the people at the heads of companies who let this sort of thing go on. It isn't as if comedians have some special power to fire people or prosecute.
This 1000% percent. This was a societal failure at all levels. Peons reporting assaults mean nothing when libel laws exist to keep them quiet.
All the comedians were just going on "rumours" you can't blame them for not acting on "rumours". Also, as was pointed out by Richard Herring in his podcasts, Jimmy Savile was very litigious.
Stop talking sense. It's a massive conspiracy that goes all the way up to the lizard queen
It’s insane to me that so many people think that comedians can launch investigations and arrest people. It’s so bafflingly confused. Do people seriously have no understanding of law, police, courts, etc ?
People are angry at Stewart Lee for not doing…. what, exactly? Like what in gods name does anyone think these people could have done beyond raising awareness in a way that slipped through censorship and didn’t get them sued and/or fired
What were the “rumours “ exactly 🤷🏼♀️
But it was 98% boys
@@matimus100no it wasn't, it was mostly girls, Where's your evidence?
You can get away with saying anything if it's dressed up in comedy. That's why medieval courts had jesters.
That's not why those old Kings had Court Jesters. Those Jesters were there so the King had someone above the Law, who could point any abuses of power with impunity.
LP SP one another ignorant TH-cam comment
Not any more. That has changed in the USA in November 2016 when Donald Trump was elected president. The liberal socialist Democrats lost their mnds, and looking for a scapegoat. A comedian (who is not using comedy to bash Trump) is the #1 target
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@@jamessimonson9905 The virgin e-stalker
you missed the one with paul mccartney, when asked to tell of his top experience, sarcastically mentions meeting Jimmy Savile in the back of a van.
I found that last piece of footage extremely harrowing. For some reason the fact it was followed by that static just really hit me. Its beyond words the whole situation. Saville was a real monster
I think it's easy to say everyone knew. Hearing things and knowing for a fact are very different things. We all hear things about certain people and form an opinion in our head without actually truly knowing.
The people who were most likely to actually know were the suits in charge of the various institutions he frequented. I think relatively few people actually knew. But the stories and rumours were so widespread that nobody was surprised by the revelations.
My jaw hit the floor with lee and herring at the end, everybody at the bbc mustve known how depraved saviles acts had got
but had there hands tied by the men upstairs. Almost makes you feel sick.
+BlandNutz That went out at Sunday Lunchtime as well, it wasn't a late night show as you might imagine. I don't think anyone's hands were tied by the men upstairs. Just noone had anything other than rumour to go on, and Saville was such a popular figure no one was brave enough to tackle him.
Their show got cancelled not long after that!
He was protected by the top, probably the same of him. Thatcher protected him.
Probably protected by the monarchy
@@marksouthall4508 apparently Thatcher pushed through his inclusion on the Honours List against Civil Service advice. She was fully briefed and still went ahead and honoured him.
The shocking part is the very specific nature of what was known- they knew he was fiddling with bodies in the morgue- so clearly a lot of people had seen and heard things that became common knowledge.
Back in the 90’s/00’s I think a lot of the public knew, it was commonly said he did it
Exactly. That must mean that workers in the hospitals basically knew, or strongly suspected, what was going on. And then they told their mates, and word spread into the wider public. Crazy that word can spread in that way, and still not lead to any police inquiry. But, as recent dramatization The Reckoning confirms, Savile used all kinds of power play to keep the authorities in his pocket and shut down possible inquiries.
They didn't really know. Stewart Lee and Richard Herring talk about it in Herring's podcast here: th-cam.com/video/br7sxRPqMZU/w-d-xo.html
They thought the necrophilia was an insane rumor spread as a joke. It would be like reporting Richard Gere to the animal welfare authorities for animal abuse because you heard the gerbil rumor 13th-hand.
"I bet he loved her slot" :O I can't believe they got away with broadcasting that.
I think it was live
@@mike65085 can you hear the contempt and anger in his voice as he says it too
It’s a fucking joke
Child abuse was just not taken seriously..! Awful.
Yeah used to like Skinner before this, it's to dark. No feelings for the victims or family. Aslong as he can crack a joke
The lydon bit is 1978. Shows how the rabbit hole goes.
Yeah, so it is. Corrected, thanks.
the whole establishment knew and were in on it, MI5, MI6, BBC, Westminster, Police, Clergy, Royals the whole lot ... and murdered Jill Dando because she was going to expose them all
+LulzKillerED At least as far back as Prime Minister Edward Heath
+LulzKillerED don't forget his links to royalty.
+Devon Thing That old chestnut.....stop imagining that you are being revelatory......
To the angry mob on here screaming they all knew, I don't think there was one person in uk who didn't think Saville was a bit too keen around kids. We just didn't realise the scale and severity.
Rik Mayall and Ben Elton make reference to Saviles love children in the comedy show filthy rich and catflap from 1987
"Jimmy Savile loves her slot" It wasn't just the hosts the audience obviously got the joke too.
Very important point. So many of us had heard rumours, to the extent that a studio audience would find it amusing. Doesn't mean we believed it though.
I think they got "a" joke rather than "the" joke.
@@davidhoward7400- exactly this. People commenting with the benefit of hindsight.
@@leftmono1016 People did know back then. When I was a kid in school in the 80's, some kids who were crap at sport were called Joey (Joey Deacon of Blue Peter fame, if you don't know who I mean). Other creepier kids were called Jimmy. I also bumped into Saville in a restaurant at Glencoe in the early 2000s and he invited me and my mate back to his holiday house for some tea. My mate wouldn't go and I said we'd be alright as we were too old for him then.
@@nigelblockhead80 - ‘Joey’ was very common in the playground back in my day, but no one was ever called Jimmy.
Even after the Theroux documentary he only came over as very strange, certainly not as the beast we know he was.
Some very unlucky kids knew what he was, and so did a very select number of adults who shamefully turned a blind eye, but that’s a tiny minority of the population.
There's one from Drop The Dead Donkey, where one newsroom colleague says to the other: Henry: 'Just heard some unsettling rumours at the club.' Damien: 'Not Jimmy Savile again?'
+Matgo Styles That's not necessarily a reference to paedophilia, it could just be "it's unsettling that JS is at the club" (because he's irritating).
+Escobar Manchulo And it's not necessarily not a reference to JS.
I've the DVDs of this. That was back in 1990. Oh the BBC knew all right and done fuck all about it
Seems it was more or less an open secret. But nobody could do anything because of his connections.
@@danw1374
He was in the funny handshakes club with the top cops of West Yorkshire.
Savile was never pinched because he would have grassed up all the big wigs, politicians, household beloved celebrities etc, who were into similar....'hobbies' A lot of the footage in the compilation were live transmissions (or recorded so close to transmission date that they couldn't have the Savile material removed) I wish Frank & David would bring back Fantasy Football League.
A lot in government, people high up in the BBC, big business men and the royals did and still do have the same ‘hobbies’. Powerful people with armies behind them. Lots know, but with no or little evidence what can you do? They will do you for slander and ruin your career and your life.
Saville may not even have been the worst. Blood is on some of them peoples hands.
Check out the Elm House guest list for confirmation of others who’d have been dragged in to it (and some later indeed were).
I've always believed that as well.
Some of the victims' accounts I've seen spoke of being assaulted by multiple men at the BBC, or of being taken to "parties"JS attended where men took children into bedrooms.
If JS got taken down, he would take a hell of a lot of other people with him, and they knew it.
Saville was nenver pinched becuase he was very wealthy and threatened to sue the pants off anyone who tried.
More youtube videos need a John Lydon staring in silence intermission.
You can have a suspicion about someone but no evidence. I suspect the fact that for decades people could say these things without litigation, means he was probably guilty and couldn't sue for slander.
The John Lydon interview was monetised because it was released on an album of his so Content ID has picked it up as copyrighted music
Well, the gratifying thing is that it's come back to bite the BBC in the arse big time. It must feel not only vindicating but rewarding to know that in some small way he's assisted in making the BBC look bad...which may I interject the company deserves to be.
It's why now, I think more than ever that the government really needs to look in to scrapping the TV licence. People who are genuinely disgusted and maybe want to stop watching and aid in funding the BBC should be aloud to do so without having the ability continue watching other channels taken away from them. I dislike having to sit through advertisment's which no doubt they'd eventually have to find funding through, but I'd still rather have that than the alternative we have now.
Good to know. I wondered why the audio was dropped.
I doubt that Lydon trawls TH-cam looking for copyright infringements. Also, I can't imagine that he himself would object to yet another airing of a piece of evidence that HE knew the shameful truth and tried to get it out there 40 years ago.
Lydon wouldn't need to trawl youtube, they simply add the album to a database and youtube automatically looks for similarities of audio files of all uploads. It's not some dude sat there listening.
"I doubt that Lydon trawls TH-cam looking for copyright infringements. " I'd say he most likely does.
I remember watching the now infamous Loius Theroux, Saville documentary. There's no mention of rumours, accusations about him, at all, but Saville can't resist goading Theroux about how "tricky" he is. He was repeating "I'm tricky, you see" & smiling at the camera, finishing it with, can't catch me. It was blatant, Saville knew about the rumours & how bad they were getting, he just couldn't resist boasting about his protected status.
Who was his protector? Did Saville have a friend called Phillip? Or a friend called Charlie? That's what we need to know.
Problem was it just seemed as if Saville had a personal dislike of Theroux and that that was why he was evading him - the fact that he was seen conversing freely with Therouxs camera man / crew in between these scenes and after hours only compounded this and made the documentary counterproductive in my view, presenting Saville merely as some kind of Howard Hughes style eccentric rather than a terminal wrong'un.
@@eliasblum753 Let's not forget his big friend, the one with actual power, Maggie Thatcher. She presided over a cabinet of paedos, took over from kiddy-murderer Ted Heath, and is the forerunner of the current crop of Eton perverts.
There's a scene in the back of a car where they talk about these rumours. It's on TH-cam.
@@KismetMulhaneski-to3wg To me I expected the Theroux thing to show himup if he was 'sosgy' but if anything Theroux cleared his reputation by showing him to just be a weird but harmless guy. Maybe that was the intention all along as I cannot believe that Louis Theroux is some kind of hero. He is just a tv guy like the rest of them and it seems it was his job that day to help Saville.
Well played. I remember most of the "Nudge and wink jokes" came out during the mid-late 90's after Jimmy finished up the Fix it show. There must be more out there.
Marc Zero Yeh there is a very clear one in Never Mind The Buzzcocks when Mark Lamar was host
+Marc Zero There's a Ricky Gervais and Steven Merchant one on XFM radio show.
Marc Zero I remember listening to Johnny Vaughan on the London BBC station GLR on a Sunday in summer 1997 and he made similar veiled comments about Savile. He recalled driving down the motorway and hearing on the radio that Savile was to be knighted; said how he had to pull over as he just couldn't believe what he was hearing. Slightly confusing to follow at the time, as I didn't know what Vaughan was referring to.....but it's clear now
i recorded `so-vile' off the radio lots for about 6 years (from 1979 to 1985 or something) - i put all the tapes in a draw and forgot about them for decades.
when the scandal broke after he died i decided to check the tapes to see if he had fooled me by saying things in a coded way etc - but he hadn't said anything like in this youtube video - there was certainly nothing to give to investigators that was worth anything anyway - so he tricked me and millions of others completely.
(the only thing really was he always bragged about his photographic memory - but when questioned by police he merely made vague denials - wouldn't he have given perfect alibis if having a photographic memory like he always said on the radio?)
The BBC silenced the Lydon clip. Says more about the BBC than any words could.
No, Lydon silenced it.
Saville used to do the London Marathon (apparently). It was either the 1989 or the 1991 London Marathon (I tend to think it was the 1989 one), when I passed him and his entourage in South London. He was playing the crowd. Then quite some time later, I passed him again along the Embankment, yet he hadn't overtaken me. you couldn't miss him, the way he was dressed. I could only assume that he took a short cut around Tower Bridge.
He had his driver pick him up an drop him off at random points
He never completed a marathon in his life. He was well known for being picked up and dropped off at strategic points. It wasn't a secret, he always made excuses of 'other appointments' leading to time constraints.
i have an audio tape of him getting caught by an official whilst taking a short cut - but investigators said the tape didn't prove anything outright - i let too many years pass i suppose (the official probably can't be traced now).
My granda said the same thing about when they did the Glasgow marathon
I officiated at the 10 mile mark of a big half-marathon in the '80s and he never went past me. It's not like I could have missed him in his gold tracksuit
They knew, they all knew
When I was a kid, "Jim'll Fix it" was beamed into our living rooms every Saturday teatime. It didn't take me very long (Half an hour) to realise he was a total wrongcock, and I was only seven, and hardly the brightest bulb in the box.
They heard rumours, there where always rumours. But you can't report a rumour to the police.
@@nialltomy15 You could - a rumour to the police could have been the start of witnesses coming forward and Jimmy Savile being taken down.
The BBC were protecting him and those that said anything such as Johnny Rotten were dealt with
Wow Chris Morris nailed it.
He always does!
Years and years ago, early 1980s I believe, James Whale had Savile on his radio show and had a call-in. One bloke, who I recall being very well spoken, started asking Jimmy about his interest in children, such as"you really "like" kids, don't you, Jimmy?' , and so on. That was the first time I was aware of anything nefarious about Jimmy Savile.
Oddly (is there anything NOT odd in relation to Savile..?) I heard the news of the investigation in to Savile's proclivities from a Chinese TV news channel when I was in Beijing. The TV was silent but had English subtitles turned on.
He also mooned at the camera on an LWT show many years before even the rumours came out. This was even photographed offscreen and reported (in The Daily Mirror I think).
I remember thinking at the time that was rather odd behaviour for a so-called 'National Treasure'. Especially one with a largely under 18 / juvenile audience.
I wonder if that may be why the otherwise brilliant Whale ended up being relegated to doing very late night phone-ins on Talk Radio in the 90s... Maybe even why TR ended up turning into a sport station rather than all kinds of topics.
I did tape some of those shows as a teenager because they seemed very interesting and possibly even historically valuable, maybe I should dig them out and play them, see if there's anything that's become much more important over time.
Discussion by Lee and Herring regarding their bit at the end:
th-cam.com/video/br7sxRPqMZU/w-d-xo.htmlm34s
I'd imagine most of the jokes would have come from a similar position - not a position of actual knowledge but simply from what they presumed at the time were outlandish rumours.
I remember the good old days when stars' sexual abuse of fans especially children was an acceptable topic for a comedy routine. In fact, I worked in a psychiatric hospital where one psychiatrist refused to believe sexual abuse negatively affected anyone from the working classes as paedophilia was endemic in the 'lower orders' and so 'normal' thus ok for proles to carry on with their natural behaviour. And I am talking about the 1980s.
Yes apparently sexual abuse is like chickenpox, it's best to get it out of the way early.
I'd believe it. When I lived in the UK, I noticed a troubling number of people knew their place in life and thought it strange to question authority. Certain behaviour seemed acceptable if you were seen as successful or upper class.
@@MrTipperX What about all the gags about casting couches in Hollywood prior to the Weinstein and Epstein scandals?
The purest truth is often said in jest.
There was a "Jimmy Savile's caravan" gag in Rutland Weekend Television.
This is how it is in show biz. Everybody always knows. People we're making jokes about Kevin Spacey for decades. I remember my roommates brother, who was an AD, telling me a story about how Spacey stole away Brian Singer's 16yr old boyfriend and arranged it so Singer would walk in on Spacey getting head from the kid and he told him "Who's the bitch now?!" Because apparently Singer had called him a bitch earlier in the day.
I heard this story like 7 years ago...
That's why is hilarious to me when people clutch their pearls and act like they had no clue, like the whole thing with Harvey Weinstein, and all these people like Oprah trying to act like they're taking a stand when they literally knew about it for decades.
People made jokes about Harvey Weinstein and the "casting couch" at awards shows long before he was finally arrested. Everyone in Hollywood knew.
Lets never forget the BBC and the entertainment industry knew about this and did nothing. Xlosed down artists, comedians, actors, public speakers anyone who mentioned what he done.
Then they pretended they figured it out after he died so it didnt become a scandal against them.
The only tragedy in his death is that it didnt happen 60 years sooner.
still going on
Probably helped that he was close personal friends with Maggie Thatcher, the once and future Prime Minister.
Hilarious how they all know its happening while its happening but waits until they have permition to say it, kinda makes you wonder who is doing it right now that they aren't allowed to say.
Imagine the first thing Jimmy Savile saw before going to hell 1:21
Should have also included the Half Man Half Biscuit song 'I Left My Heart In Papworth General' which has the lyric 'and get that small boy off your knee...'
The whole establishment knew and were in on it
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What about the Freddy Royle character in Irvine Welsh's book "Ecstacy" from the 1990s?
"“Freddy Royle had had, by his standards, a tiring day prior to his late afternoon arrival at St. Hubbin’s. He had been in the television studios all morning filming an episode of From Fred With Love. A young boy, whom Fred had sorted out to swim with dolphins at Morecambe’s Marineland, while his grandparents were brought back to the scene of their honeymoon, was all excited in the studio and writhed around in his lap, getting Freddie so aroused and excited that they had to do' several takes.”
Mighty have more gravitas if Welsh had used any other nom-de-plume other than "Welsh" really. It's flagrantly obvious he's nae Walsh. Just read the dialogue in any of his novels for a couple of chapters turns your own internal dialogue intae some keen dae' "heid the ball" unintelligible skronky dialuct frae the moost impoverished o' Govan's schemie sink estates. Ah kin barely folla me ain fuckin' thoughts eftir readin a cupple o' peeges av huz funnetically spelt soo called "Buks". An I've nivver e'en bin North ae' fruggin' Bristol in me entire fuckin' puff".
Ai dinnae e'en comprehen' one waird o' porridge wog before I unwittingly flicked troo a chapter er tae a his ' "Fulth" or mebbe "Treenspoatin'". Noo i heftae attund alluv thi Rangers vs Selltuk Durbysgain, an ai dinnae e'en boather wit' the fitbae in mi ain Sundae league fuxtures.
As if his fucking pen name changes anything you fucking idiot. Fuck. Off.
@@MyAnalogueWatch - I think he's making an incredibly long, tedious, and certainly unfunny, "joke".
@@terrra_2024 "Ah kin barely folla me ain fuckin' thoughts eftir readin a cupple o' peeges av huz" - as someone who has read some of Welsh's work written in this dialectic form, I can assure you that this is a lie, and also I agree with what you say, it is certainly a tedious and unfunny joke.
Being best buddies with our king helped. Like Peter Ball etc etc
I was on Jim'll fix it. Met jim. Had a fantastic day. Was devastated when the stories came out.
Must have been traumatic to find out
@@ٴٴٴٴ_0 it's strange but I think of him as two different people. Almost as if I cant believe he did those bad things though know he did.
I met the "jim from the TV" not the "jim from the news stories" if you know what I mean???
did he stick his finger up your arse?
@@ٴٴٴٴ_0 Imagine being the one kid he didn't find attractive o_O
The empathize on the last clip when he says “ girls “ when he gets up off the couch is Erie
Pretty clear it was an ongoing joke/rumour around BBC comedians. They obviously didn't believe it but still, hindsight.
I guess all in all, I don't blame Lydon for wanting to control that footage. He tried to tell the truth about Savile and got canned from the BBC for years as punishment for doing so.
Trouble was that Lydon generally acted like an obnoxious kid. Difficult to take seriously as all he wanted to to was cause controversy whatever the subject.
Well researched. Nice one! Sinister stuff.
I once heard a radio show program on bbc cant remember which one, when part of the story included a reference to savile and went something like....and around the corner he met " the three headed savile monster" this was about 20 years ago...
Something that no one has mentioned in the comments is how the audience is laughing too. Because they got the references. They'd heard the rumours too. Many, many people were in on the joke, not just people within the industry. It's just no one actually believed the rumours behind the jokes.
I think they are laughing because Saville 'looked like a paedo,' and I imagine that they thought it was a joke about that. He had a creepy vibe. I had never heard the rumours growing up myself but obviously if you worked at the BBC you would have known.
Very very few people knew about him. Especially those outside the industry you obvious troll. It would be everyone's fault if everyone knew and did nothing, you complete nonsense.
they didn't laugh at the last joke about the morgue and some of the others.
A friend of mine told me he was “weird” years before any of this came out about him. So many knew an said nothing the conspiracy of silence is real.
Well, your friend's certainly a sharp one aren't they?
Sad thing is you can’t just go to the police and say this bloke is weird. There will be people who actually knew things and covered it up, these comedians were joking based on hearsay.
For the missing audio - Search for Johnny rotten jimmy Saville, there’s a clip of an interview with Piers Morgan with the full audio
Clearly, everybody at the BBC was in the know....
Rumours, no proof. Everyone in England had heard rumours.
@@jpalvarez4972 Nope, I disagree.
Terry Wogan knew and stated as such in a newspaper interview.
He actually discussed Savile's true nature with a newspaper editor at an event that Savile attended.
He asked the editor if she would expose Savile's crimes.
She told Wogan that was something he would have to do.
Ironically, Terry Wogan raised funds for Children in Need.
@@freedomvigilant1234 no it was in fact the other way around...l've read about that....jean rook who was a veteran newspaper editor for the daily mirror saw savile at the event. And when she was with wogan. She reportedly asked wogan at the event that took place in the late 1990s. ''when are you lot going to expose savile''?...and wogan reportedly replied back to rook. ''That's your lot's job'.
@@nikreece6295 Thanks for the correction - it was a while ago I read the article.
@@freedomvigilant1234 yeah that's fine...a lot of people who worked at the BBC have admitted since the scandal that they had heard rumours about savile. But nothing more
So many people with "they so obviously knew." They knew the rumours, they didn't - couldn't - have known the truth or how true the rumours were or how serious it was. Many people knew about individual incidents, perhaps, but no-one put together the big picture until after he died - until after the Christmas special celebrating his life after he died, when his victims finally felt the situation had become too revolting not to speak out and reporters started putting the different stories together.
Yes .. I don't buy the "BBC knew exactly what was going on" narrative either
To be honest, I wonder how many of them actually knew something: even before it came out, he was just a pretty creepy weirdo and easy to make jokes about that he could be into a lot of dodgy things.
@Vim Fuego I’ll take your word for that, I have no idea, I’ve never read anything. He always gave off really bad vibes though. If someone had said “Jimmy Savile has sex with the dead” I suspect a hell of a lot of people would be like “yeah.. actually I can believe that”
@@CLaw-tb5gg The real problem in a situation like this isn't that people are turning a blind eye to it, but you have to know actual specifics and have a witness willing to go forward. Even Lydon never directly said what he knew in the banned BBC Radio interview. I saw the Netflix documentary, and the most disturbing part on this front was that there was a point where there were three witnesses willing to talk to police, but the police never told them that others existed, and none was willing to testify for fear of being the only one.
Stuff like this just proves that the bbc knew all about him and either condoned his behaviour or just covered it up but the bbc should be shut down
Who Knighted him?
The journalist Mark Lawson tells a story that when he was at a Leeds match in the 80s there was a temporary crowd crush and he remembers someone shouting out "don't die because you'll get taken to hospital and f*cked by Jimmy Saville" (he was a volunteer porter at Leeds General Infirmary) the man on the street knew.
The fact that lots of people knew and still put him in charge of a psych hospital is disgusting.
There was also a scene in the KYTV KY Telethon where a load of people were doing a charity run and Jimmy Savile was mentioned and that the runners were all running because Jimmy Savile was coming. They all knew but were powerless to do anything because of his strong influence and powerful connections.
Well connected with Royalty and the politicians who nominated him for a Knighthood.
It was Margaret Thatcher who insisted Savile was knighted - despite strong opposition from her top advisers.
@@glamdolly30 Edwina curry gave him a good character ref and he got access to a hospital. Schofield and willohby gave the jim ill fix it producer an easy interview. Top advisors have since been deciding to alter sex education to include fore play/sex acts instead.
@@user-yp3oj5se1i Serial rapist, paedophile and necrophile Savile escaped any negative consequences for his offending his entire life, due to the patronage of MANY powerful people. He could not have continually escaped justice otherwise.
My comment referred specifically to his knighthood, which was thanks to the determination of his old ally Margaret Thatcher alone, who pushed it forward despite repeated Whitehall attempts to block it.
I have to think about him everytime I drive past his house in Glencoe
Most Ironic thing about Savile is that he never ended up in the Monster Mansion that one of his Ancestors built.
Lee and Herring said in an interview that they were unaware of Savile's behaviour before they did their skit but I doubt that very much. Too obvious.
I heard the rumour about his mortuary activities while driving through Wolverhampton in 1979, my point being, if it had reached that far then everybody in TV MUST have known
How did you hear them, whilst driving in your car?
What did the guy say at 0:38? Something about "He loves her a lot" or something...
Her slot which is her pussy.
Rory Bremner used used to do one where he read out a letter that began
"Dear Jim - you sad man........."
Spitting Image had a sketch, after he got a knighthood (shows you what they’re worth......)asking him how he wanted to be addressed in future:
Was it
-Sir James
-Sir Jimmy, or
-You sad man.......
And the BBC management said they had no idea!
Jimmy Carr on 'Christ Tarrant: A Comedy Roast' (9 April 2010):
Tarrant was once mistaken for another DJ:' Jimmy Savile
. Which is ridiculous. Chris doesn’t have that much luck with the ladies. lf Jimmy Savile could hear this now, he’d be turning in his grave. What’s that? (holds hand to ear) Jimmy Savile’s not dead? Well, what was he doing in that grave? Oh, Jimmy...
Should have added the Jonny Rotten audio - it was fabulous what he said about sadistic Saville and the BBC cover-ups. He said that it seemed everyone knew what the sadistic-necro did. When he pointed-out his behaviour, he was told, 'Oh, that's just Jimmy'.
Laying in bed.
Holding my phone inches from my face, waiting to fall asleep.
John Lydon.
...(sigh) gonna have rotten dreams tonight.
Turn the screen off. You know the light from cell phones and laptops mimics sunlight and triggers the brain to wake up?! Sorry for the tangent from the video, but now you know ;)
@@davidlean1060 but not old CRT Tvs?
@@davidlean1060 people used to fall in front of them, so i was just wondering
@@davidlean1060 sorry i meant fall asleep in front of old tvs late at night, maybe the white static of 'no channel' helped them
The Jonny Rotten silence was weird 🤣
The only thing you leave behind is peoples memories of you. Take care people!
The monsters that he served and supplied are worse than he was
Frank Skinner knew
Are You Being Served had a running joke in which Mr Humphries alluded to being molested as a boy by a man working with his church choir. The line always got a laugh from the live audience in the early-mid 70s. What does that say of the audience - in the studio and at home?
On my way back to university on a train in about 1990 there were two Sunday Sport journalists at my table giggling over what Jimmy Savile was up to. I was unaware at the time and they said it'd only all come out after he died, as there wasn't enough evidence to go to court. I kept on about this until he died, and then looked pretty stupid for about 18 months until the truth did come out, and it was loads worse than anyone expected.
It WAS a coverup.
The BBC protected him, this is why they banned certain people such as Johnny Rotten as they outed him
Doesn’t sound like the sort of problem that would usually trouble the Sunday Sport
The royals that mixed with him,should apologize now.
Apologize for what ? Protecting him ? Wise up .
As an American this reaffirms my love of British comedy
Really? I thought the "comedy" was awful.
This is not comedy it's cowardly celebs being used to make a child abuser look like a non child abuser by making the abuse be interpreted as non real/a joke.
As an american you might have seen Bob saget's celeb friends try to joke about child abuse.
Stewart Lee is brilliant.
Freddie star did a good Jimmy savile impression, they were good mate's but Freddie inconveniently forgot about that until he was reminded
It was so good he went into hiding..
Freddie “lack of evidence” Starr.
Or as NickNick calls him, “legendary”.
You are a troll. Starr shut the child endangering schofield up. You have no evidence that Starr was friends with saville. Star did several very good impressions. His degenerate lawyers told him to pay off some accusers that said he insulted them. That made it seem to people like you that Starr had raped someone.
I can think of a fair few more. It was referenced a few times on Never Mind the Buzzcocks, during Lamarr's reign.
And we're supposed to believe that the top brass at the BBC knew nothing!
Of course they did. The police, Royalty, the Government who have him a job at Broadmoor, the party that nominated him for a Knighthood.
No one knew?
🤔
They knew, and PARTICIPATED!🍕
I think the Mitchell & Web skit was supposed to be ironic at the time. I remember seeing it a few years ago and it made me laugh a little too hard.
Seems like it could work on two levels - ironic for those of us who weren't "in the know", and daring slander-bait for those who were.
"he loves their slot" that is what the youngsters call savage xD
No, i think they still call it a slot or pussy. I've never heard a girl ask to stroke her savage.
Did coogan write for the day today and this morning with Richard not judy?
There was a comedy show on in Scotland every new year when I was a child called scotch & wry and I remember a sketch from it ware Ricky Fulton the star of the show chucks a plate of slop over a poster of Jimmy savile my father believes it was a shot at the British railway because he was there face for a while advertisement wise and also it was set in a train station cafe but since everything has came out I'm not so sure I think savile was well known and Fulton was very Christian living in his personal life so it wouldn't surprise me if he was trying to send a message even then. The show was only seen in Scotland I think but does anyone else remember that episode?
just watched that on here a few days ago Jonathan
Russell brand made a joke on his radio show about shagging dead bodies and Noel Gallagher chimes in with “what like Jimmy saville” and Russell told him to shush
Now then , now then, this montage is double fab. As it 'appens. Yodle yodle. Ooops i'm dead. Cripes.
There was an interview in loaded or FHM magazine back in 97 when he talks a lot about loving the dead, and a lot about his mothers clothes, very silence of lambs. I ALWAYS thought he was a creep though even as a kid.
In the 70s I I wrote to Jim 'll Fix It aged 13, and didn't get chosen and I am very very pleased I didn't.
There's an episode of Drop The Dead Donkey where a character takes another one aside to tell him something. "Is it those rumours about Jimmy Savile again?", he asks.
The reason saville wasnt outed back then was that he was part of the establishment just like a judge will back a policeman due to being' - part of the establishment... No ones gonna doubt the chain of order of life and society whatever they do say or beleive...but things are apparently different now!
He possibly had secrets about the others that ensured they'd never tell.
I think people's outrage about the absurdity of everyone knowing and noone doing anything betrays the ill founded belief that Britain is a functioning, just and democratic society - while they're looking at the irrevocable evidence that it isnt - and never has been. When people stop kidding themselves that this state works, we might be able to start improving it.