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I’m group two. It’s their life, others are in no position to judge especially Rudeus
Norn only said what we’re all thinking.💀
Likely the only Mature response I'd say
@@Memer_Deepayon You think incest is okay?
Norn marries Rujierd, someone who was a father figure/protector for a brief period in her life. I don’t think her opinion has any grounds to stand on.
@@earlthewaffle In their world atleast
Also our guy Rudy married his cousin, remember!!!
@ryuivanovich7271 I would say Norn and Rujierd Relationship is more like a kid marrying their teacher or babysitter when they become older. This is is still weird but less than Eisha
Even if incest is not frowned upon in that world , Norn’s perspective makes most sense imagine if Rudeus had an adult brother who got into a relationship with one of his daughters does that seems acceptable ?
Depends. Are we in Alabama?
Rudy: (sarcastically) Yeah I'm so happy to be an uncle and grandfather all at the same time.
Eris: I'm neutral.
Rudy: Aisha made you a grandmother in your 30s.
Eris: Death to her!
After this, I don’t understand how some people continue to hate Ars, while saying that Aisha is the best girl.
When it is Ars who is the victim and Aisha took advantage of him.
In that story line, Rudeus reflects on his past actions. In his previous life, Rudy sorta did the same thing by planting a camera to spy on his nieces. When Rudy's previous brother found it out, Rudy was beaten soundly. Other than incest being a taboo in his previous life, he also basically relives the moment, but this time he's in the shoes of his brother.
@@zachjenkins3292That's only in the LN. Began reading the WN and didn't read anything about his nieces and in the manga I think he was only watching some loli porn
The fact that Aisha and eris didnt leave Rudy in dark timeline make me feel she deserved better.
the fact that Ars is the only one among the children who didn't leave and helped Rudeus with work when Rudy got old, he deserves better
It’s a pity that Aisha took advantage of Ars’ lack of maturity and made him fall in love with her, and then forced him to run away with her
Sadly this incident likely drove them apart more than they already are
Rudy: Well I'm leaving...
Those who disagree with him: To where?
Rudy: Earth since clearly I'm in a parallel universe where my sister and son...is considered permissable!
Them: It's not that bad.
Rudy: Nope have to go the Stargate is closing, the chevrons are aligning!
Facts. Aisha deserves all the love in the world for staying with dark Rudeus.
Though I kinda object with Eris didn't leave Rudy. She left him in Volume 6 and got back, however she technically isn't by his side yet as Rudeus keeps rejecting her.
@user-dm9fx9qn8c she didn't force him he wanted her aisha just gave him what he wanted which just happened to be what she wanted second he gets more hate because more people like aisha than a kid we barely know in the story over the character we know from most of the story
"Keeping the bloodline pure"
-Ars probably
NAHH
Funny ars come from eris bloodline, that still relative with rudy althought is far
Like they was made for this 😅
That world didn't have their history on how problematic it is. They are not aware why they need to keep blood pure. To the point, why you don't want to end up in the medieval world.
Aisha aint pure
What about Rudy and Eris? They are distant cousins yet they unify the greyrat bloodline?
The three goddesses were neutral only because Rudy was very upset with this relationship.
they backup their husband but have their own opinions.
Yet Eris slash/cut Ars hand
@@Avent00based
@@Avent00 From what i read/recall, it seemed the main reason eris cut ars like that was because when he and Aisha first came out about their relationship and arguments erupted, Aisha was the only/main one to defend the two of them while ars stood back.
It seemed his inability to act/stand up for the both of them got to her more than the relationship itself.
Cliff really said: Bro stop throwing stones, you sitting in a god damn glas house
Not even a solid glass house, as he married his cousin by that point
@@newfanguyjackson4858 2nd cousin no?
They wont understand why Rudues reacted that way. It's basically a reminder of his disgusting actions in his previous life.
@@newfanguyjackson4858 second cousins have just 3.125% common genetic material.
@@user-rp6hi4zu8whow much common genetic material does 1st cousin have and it's not that insis right. Asking for a friend not me okay
I swear to god with this incident and the way she acted regarding the polygamy Norn is starting to seem like the only person with a brain
I am genuinely surprised that Rudeus was more shocked about the incest and not the grooming aspect of their relationship...
He didn't get any chance to talk about the matter he couldn't find the words to describe how wrong he felt it was which is why he called a family meeting to discuss the matter only for his wives and mother to practically ask him what the problem was. His mother even got mad at him for thinking that Aisha should leave the house and Eris was only upset that Ars was acting like a child so Rudy mostly kept quiet since it seemed like everyone was against his views
@@Marcus-oc4mwbecause his outrage made no sense to any of them when they had no context he was from another world where that was considered wrong but in their current world he's the one overreacting
@@evlmax5890 yeah but I mean they should be more upset. The only one who seemed upset was Sylphy tho Sylphy only asked if she was gonna have sex with all their sons as well or if it's just Ars. At first she said yes but then changed her mind and said she loved Ars. Regardless of the time setting I'd like to think any mother would be upset if they caught a grown woman having sex with an 11 year old boy
@@evlmax5890 that also plays a big part in it
@@evlmax5890 makes the most sense
Honestly, Norn has the right idea. Genetically speaking, Ars and Aisha are as related as first cousins, which was acceptable for most of history and is still legal in Japan. Still a higher risk of birth defects, but it’s a low chance. Second cousin marriage might as well be strangers and anything beyond that is perfectly fine, so I do think Lucy and Clive and Rudeus and Eris shouldn’t be criticized. If they were both the same age, it’d be fine, but Aisha practically raised Ars.
You actually have to get to fourth cousins before you reach “basically any random stranger” levels.
Aisha is Ars’ half-aunt, while also being a first cousin once removed, with their most recent common ancestor being Paul. Though it’s not _quite_ as dangerous genetically as true first cousins would be, since they don’t share a mother/grandmother.
@@GamerFromJump would Ars and aisha be considered first cousins though? Don't forget that rudy and eris are related and ars is their child so there's already to inbreeding there. so wouldn't it be like or close to two siblings getting together, or at least half siblings since aisha is his half aunt.
@@thebajanking8890 - I forgot about that. The Greyrat tree is more like a bush.
@@thebajanking8890yes mostly cause aisha is from a different mother
Making them half siblings and with rudy's and eris' kids makes them first cousins
@@GamerFromJumplike most family bloodline in medieval times
Norn is the Perfect American.😂
Yeah but my boy needs some type of love in his life his father can't give it to him
Incest is wincest 😂
@@flygon6997Norn to Aisha: Maybe wait till after he's ten to start...
Except Alabama...
@@flygon6997 Rudeus tries! but his children admire him too much 💀
Funny how Cliff’s counter argument is genuinely irrelevant to the main point.
Rudeus: “I don’t approve of incest.”
Cliff: “Oh yeah? Well you have three ways wives!”
Rudeus: “Complete different case Cliff…”
Lmao
It's meant more to explain what he has is uncommon vs what they had was very common
No, cliff's case is legitimate. Rudeus has no grounds to condemn incest when he to in participating in a degenerate lifestyle
Lucy got away lucky while Ars got the jojo treatment
Eris treating ars 👹
With Lucy at least her partner not living under the same roof since birth
Arsh got that for letting Aisha did all the talking though
I mean at least with Lucy it’s not a direct comparison she married cliffs son who is syphies great uncle so about the comparison of Rudy and eris
Atleast they are like same age
Zenith approving of her daughter and grandson is wild 💀💀
Aisha is Lillia's daughter. Norn is Zenith's daughter. They share the same father Paul, so both are his sisters.
She's barely not drooling anymore so ithink her opinion isn't the best one to go from. Who knows if she really understands what is going on.
@@D00MTR33 FYI, it is from the outside, she thinks clearly and speaks with her granddaughter Lara telepathically all the time (Roxy's daughter)
Incest okay 👍
&
Polygamy not okay 😂
for Norn, both are unacceptable
It's weird because Millus is supposed to be based on the Catholic Church's sexual ethics, but they were the main force pushing against incest in a world where cusion marriage was common.
@@JP-rf8rr not really, millis is based on catholic church only in appearence and in the whole monogamy thing, outside of that they're pretty chill (they don't bat an eyelid at homosexual relationships for example)
@danielehu6732
Odd that the author explicitly states that their sexual ethics is similar to Catholics, but the only similarity is monogamy.
@@JP-rf8rrJapanese people tend not to be very familar with cultures outside of Japan. This is even moreso the case with religions outside of Shinto, Buddhism, and to a lesser extent Taoism. The only abrahamic faith they have any level of familiarity with is Catholic Christianity and even then they know barely anything because catholicism was almost destroyed in the 1648 Shimabara Rebellion and then forced into hiding ever since then. It’s also why you never really see anything actually resembling muslims or jews in anime as they have zero familiarity with them other than what they learned from westerners.
Group 1: ewwwww
Group 2 : ayy thats alright
Group 3 : confusion
Reijerd is probably like I didn't sign up for this 😂
Nobody sign up for this shit 💀 I was uncomfortable reading Rudeus thoughts on how to approach this. I really wouldn't want to be in that position and deal with that bullshit. If Ars was an independent adult I could at least just say "well, kinda weird that you groomed my son since birth, but he is the one who needs to make his decisions for himself now, not my problem anymore even tho this happening is definitely my failure"
Reigerd just doesn't like to judge anyone.
He still blames himself for the death of his son, so he doesn’t think he has the right to express his opinion.
That's why he didn't say anything to Paul. But he just said that as long as his son was alive, he would listen to him
@@АлександрТерехов-ж3йespecially since he was chewing on his son's finger like Beef jerky when he regained consciousness
I am with norn here
I see what you mean but he needs some type of love in his life is Mom and Dad can't give him that honestly
Same
@@flygon6997so does that justified girls seeking attention and validation from sugar daddies?
@@jordanwilliams9222 he wanted some type of love in his life his father can't even give him the time of day to do that
@@flygon6997 I get his dad but there is no prof that his mom doesnt give him the right amount of love a mothers give AND even if eris is laking in that departpent silfy and roxy are there for him and even if they are not hes biological mothers they all raise the child togueder so they are like hes real mom. Just because you dont have a mother or father figure in your life doesnt mean that the substitud has allso be a sex partner, a lot of people take a father and mother figure if they dont have one or the they had is not doint it AND dont have to allso be a sex partner is just aisha grooming a boy.
Thank god this got cut after the backlash.
Eris being unsure, but still beats Ars's.... Well guess his name speaks for itself.
😂😂 Eris views ars as a mistake
Rather than unsure, she didn't care who he choose, the only reason she beats her son is because Rudeus is visibly upset, If Rudeus thinks their son is wrong then its wrong, she will side with Rudeus no matter what.
and because Rudeus upset, i think Eris kinda scared this will affect her (like Rudeus behavior toward her after this)
she whooped him because he chicken out letting Aisha did all the work.
@@Mediorge Ohh yea also that,
and isn't it's his request to fight him like adult?
well at least he protect her from monsters on the way.
@@darkrow8488 To add tp that line of thinking - I think it was also the fact that Aisha took most of the heat initially and she saw that as a moment of weakness for a man.
Meanwhile Eris Approves after cutting one of Ars arms and then said okay now you can live with aisha 😂🤣
- She raised Ars and was a motherlike figure to him.
- She is his aunt.
- Ars was a minor.
If you have some issues you can agree with 1 out of 3.
If you are sick you can agree with 2 out of 3.
If you have no help you can agree with all of them.
I feel like ye need to explain this further…
(Yes I thought this in a pirate accent)
@@hunterrhoades1813If you were in Aishas situation by today's standards you would be a pedophile, and convicted 14- life in prison!
Want me to make it funnier?
Aisha and Norn were getting mad when the kids called them aunts as they preffered being adressed as older sisters.
Munch in this one
i think i have issues
I don't, coz it's fiction and I can do whatever i want lmao
Polygamy wont cause darn GENETIC DEFECTS!
Im guessing because it anime it doesn't act the same as it does in the real world plus there is magic that could help maybe
Polygamy does allow for emotional disconnection and STDs. Don't throw stones
The genetic defect is only caused when it's multi generational, that's not a consideration here
And it's not known to them, it's not our world
@@MarkelMathurinyeah but not club foots. I vote for anything other than creating a descendent that look like Quasimodo.
THIS 😂😆
I swear that family tree is a boomerang
I don’t why the author chose to go this route with Aisha and ars it just seems like pointless drama and drama bait like you could remove there relationship entirely and I’m almost positive it would make things better
Polygamy is the least of the reasons Rudy has no room to talk eris is his cousin
Eris is his second cousin
Plus Japan at the time of Rudeus didn't have a law against it
Not to mention a lot of countries and religions still approve of it
@c1yro_22 A cousin is a cousin. I still find that more hypocritical than the whole polygamy thing
@@scottydoesknow3935
You're just biased then lol
Second cousin
Plus eris wasnt there changing baby Rudy's diapers and taking care of him growing up
They were basically strangers before they got introduce in that dance
Thats the problem with ars and aisha
Aisha literally took care of ars growing up
And they end up shanking
Aint that basically just grooming?
@@c1yro_22 The second cousin is also allowed in my country... It's frowned upon but legal... And as long as no one knows you're related it's fine...
Cliff needs to stfu he doesn't get say in this
How is he comparing polygamy to incest
Medieval times period
Cliff is right, you have no ground to stand on if you support polygamy but not incest
Yea cliff has the high ground anikan greyrat 😅
Lilia : I said Rudeus not Ars i know they are similar!.
How though they have literally nothing in common from looks to abilities
@@evlmax5890 to me Ars looks like rudeus with a different skin costume.
Not really looks more like paul
The fact that Aisha remained at Rudeus's side in the dark timeline and Ars inheriting his father's work in the Orsted Corporation, receiving so much hate is sad. They deserve more love.
Sieg in the future will oppose on what Rudeus worked hard for to protect his family, and yet he was well liked just because he become a Death God.
It's more that he was like 10 and she was 25, than just his aunt. And she kidnapped him.
@@georgeprchal3924 yeah, that's what makes this story great because of the character flaws and it makes their good sides stand out or just in the background.
Aisha was portrayed as a perfect character who could do no wrong, until the incident with Ars happened. She was loved so much, and one mistake is all it takes to make so much hate.
Other characters like Paul and the MC make mistakes showing their character flaws all the time, yet they were generally liked.(Not like I have a problem with it really. I love Paul and Rudy as characters. But I just think Aisha still deserves some love despite finally showing her flaws after being the perfect sister character for so long.)
@@user-ws4lv5br7c I like to joke, "Say what you will about Norn, but she has yet to try too seduce or kidnap either of her nephews."
@@user-ws4lv5br7c honestly I loved these chapters, including the uncomfortable moments. And Rudeus finding Aisha because she was pregnant, just like how Hitogami can only affect people with strong destinies when they are pregnant 😂
I hope this is brought back in the LNs of redundancy
But I didn’t like how easily they forgave Aisha, all the hatred was on Ars, they even cut off his hands.
Aisha took advantage of Ars's immaturity, made him fall in love with her, and then forced him to run away with her.
And for some reason Ars receives punishment, although he is the one who is the devil of circumstances.
And I didn't like Aisha's pregnancy.
In my opinion, making her pregnant when Ars was 11, that is, not mature, was wrong. In fact, their marriage is built more on responsibility to the child than on sincere love.
Tbh I agree with Norn. It's just grooming.
Irony is that norn also technically got groomed (ruijerd)
@@amply_gamingwtf are you even talking about
@@amply_gaming She wasn't. She's the one who keep chasing Ruijerd to the point that he didn't try to notice it until she wrote a book about Superd's. Its a book contains information about their people, why they are not bad people, the stories about their people and also the stories she used to listen to when Ruijerd tries to make her asleep. At that moment, Ruijerd had to reciprocate Norn's feelings towards him and to do it respectfully they both asked for Rudeus blessing to allow them to marry.
Also, in all timeline she's destined to marry Ruijerd.
@@Tazeeeee norn marries ruijerd
@@amply_gaming Bro how?? They did not live together bro. They met again after years of not seeing each other and Norn was the one courting Ruijerd.
For people who don't understand what is wrong with the whole Aisha X Ars it's literally not about Grooming, the biggest problem with both Ars and Aisha is both of them don't understand what Love is, Ars single mindedly pursues Aisha cuz she is the only one he has had any form interaction that could be called romantic or flirty thus his actual world view being very limited also Aisha kind of did groom him, as for Aisha the biggest problem is Aisha never knew what Love was her mother never showed her motherly love more like something similar to master and student behaviour, next the only person she respected and felt admiration towards which was Rudeus didn't respond to her feelings yes these feelings too were not technically love but still these were the closest thing to what we could love that she felt, and finally the last one her feelings towards Ars isn't love it's a purely lust driven wish to be loved by someone that gives off the feeling similar to Rudeus but not completely instead someone with whom she herself can be the leading one. In short till the end of the series even when they have married and started living their separate house etc etc she still never figured out what Love feels like instead she substituted that feeling with the lust she felt for Ars and also the Love that Ars felt for her since the one she most loved has always been Rudues and that fact had never changed inside her infact because of that exact form of love that lust towards Ars had grown
When Cliff said that, it's kinda unpleasant.
if it was me, i would put silence spell on his mouth.
and going hours lecturing him. 😂
"well if you accept it. if you have son and daughter and they want to married to each other. don't ever look confused nor even complain."
I doubt he would complain
All sexual immorality is on the same level. Incest ,homosexuality, polygamy and rape are all degenerate but if you accept one you must accept the others
@@MarkelMathurinYeah bro appearantly there is know rules about how people thinks and defending unrelated things make you defend them all. You make sense.🫠
Lucy's case is just like rudy and eris. Somewhat distant relative and they grew up together. That's why it's approved.
I am against it due to the IRREFUTABLE FACT that this constitutes lazy writing by the author. It's a poor shortcut around developing new characters to be their respective love interests.
Even if you ignore the author's use of the tired use of the "Alabama" stereotype, it was also lazy writing skipping over the development of their relationship.
This is IRREDUTABLE for you and not for me so this is not IRREDUTABLE. Even one people can deny it it stop becoming IREEFUTABLE. And add to rhat author planned it for very long time if you reread the novels you will see the signs. So its not lazy writing its planned writing.
Despite this situation disgusted by us. What happened has already happened.
And because it happened, Ars was able to become sword saint.
This was because he, like his father, had a will to fight even someone like Orsted, in his case its Eris and Rudeus, to protect those he loved.
Eris was dissapointed in him during the meeting, because Ars was relying on Ashia. And him, not standing up to Ashia, angered Eris.
Eris accepted him when she saw Ars not giving up despite having his arms chopped off.
If you think about it, it almost has parallel with Orsted and Rudeus Rematch fight.
Both Rudeus and Ars fought for their love ones. Their enemy is not something they can win, yet they fight for it. And Both experienced Handless...
Our goddess Norn speaking for us once again 🗣️
W for the first group fr fr🗣️‼️🔥🙏
So polygamy is frowned upon so bad but incest is A-okay in the Mushoku world… lovely ☠️😂 Norn probably hit the point best about the relationship.
I though another point that Rudeus didn’t agree was because he thought Aisha was just doing it because she was using Ars as a replacement for himself as he rejected her
Well he didn't exactly leave her any other options either same as lillia
There’s a more messed up reason as to why he rejects it. It has to do with how trash he was in the real world
Norm ain't wrong
Lilia only gets mad because it makes Rudy mad, and she holds a great deal of respect for him, she couldn't care less about incest or pedophilia
One of also the reason why Rudeus is angry and disgusted was not just the moral of it but also the defects their child will get
While that was certain their kid came out perfectly fine
@@neopolitan9156 They didn't know at the time and I bet Rudeus was worried back then. The series gets dark sometimes
@@DaArtsi oh I'm aware it's one of my favorite things about the series, however goes to gray areas in conflict
@@neopolitan9156 One of the best things about the series
"better have the original blood keep going" -aisha,ars
Through out the cupcakes and the minecraft youtubers i alone am the groomed one
-Ars
Norn clearly has the right idea.
Eris was clearly against it too, if we go by her reactions when they found them runnaways, but after realizing Ars be just as stubborn as Rudeus she basically told him to do as he wants
She will respect her son's decisions but on the other hand she definitely won't lift a finger to help him if the occasion arrives
I might have cut aisha and this story more slack if aisha didn't claim to have fallen in love with ars since he was born, thats what killed the story for me
Rudeus forgot that eris was his second cousin
Was gonna say the same
It's not incest
There's a difference between marrying your second cousin and marrying your ten year old nephew
Even though both are weird, there’s a big difference in a second cousin who is your age then dating/marrying your brothers kid
Eris is a Boreas Greyrat line. Rudeus is in the Notos Greyrat line.
Their bloodline has branched out far enough generations ago.
Rudeus can’t complain bro 😂
Rudy really asked the Asuran noble her honest take when she probably comes from a line of people who see malformed heads and extra appendages as a sign of strong royal blood.
Lmao the background music is so good
Since incest is somehow normal in that world
The most logical comback is to prove if she was grooming the kid or not
Incest might not be taboo everywhere in that world, or it's on the same level as polygamy. What people probably don't know are the negative effects on children conceived from incest.
However, the closest relative is ars's grandfather, paul so it's at least not brother sister type incest. Eris and rudeus are technically related as well, though probably distant enough not to cause any problems.
Well technically it's his aunt, since she is Paul's daughter and therefore Rodeus' sister
My only issue is the grooming.
Rudeus needs a better reason though because he's also related Eris himself and by about the same amount of blood as well.
Eris and Rudeus are second cousins. That's about equal to half aunty and nephew.
So the incest even by our world's standards, would actually be legal.
So the only real issue here is the damn grooming.
And before any non readers speak up, it's confirmed Aisha purposefully groomed him
Rudy represents the people in our world who disagrees simply because they are unable to separate from our world social norm.
As for Norn, they are the people who fail to grasp the entire story. "She BELIEVES" Aisha is grooming him, and to some degree it's true. But it didn't start that way. Ars finds peace with Aisha because of how strict Eris is with him. He finds happiness when he's with AIsha, and Aisha in turn as the family maid serves him and makes him happy. In case anyone didn't know, when Eris and Rudeus goes to confront Ars after they fled, Eris literally beats him to near death and chops his hand off in order to see that Ars truly loves Aisha, and that Aisha isn't just seducing him. That's how terrifying of a mother Eris is. Now when you have a mother like that, and you're suddenly shown kindness beyond anything you've ever been given, it's natural that Ars would fall in love with Aisha.
Rudeus: NO INCEST 😡😡😡
Also Rudeus: Married to his cousin
Well it's a taboo not because ppl dislike or hate it, but rather incest can cause birth defects that can affect their child's health. Causing quite a bit of problem for their future.
Eris:*In neutral team*
Also eris: *Almost killed ars*
They took that "keep it in the family" comment the wrong way, they meant money.
Eris being neutral
*Chops off Ars arm*
Rudeus doesn't get to talk. He's married to a cousin, he's got multiple wifes, and he went after 2 of them while they were still kids, and he was mentally in his 30s. While i actually agree the incest is gross, talking anything gross coming from him is rather rich 😂.
relationship in this are wild
Damn that fairy tail theme hit me with so much nostalgia 😭🩷🩷
5 stages of grief ahh moments
Sylphiette is neutral because:
1. Rudeus disagrees
But
2. She likes that they've found real love like she did
So in the end, it's just a matter of personal disgust.
The Queen said "no problem"
The Pope's grandson said "you should know better"
The work friends and wives are long living races with possible generational age gaps/incest connections
Eris is just there to read Rudy's feelings and act appropriately like the good girl she is.
Hell, even Zenith was okay with it.
So yeah, in the end only Rudy, Norn, Lilia, and Lucy (Hypocrite) are against it.
Eris is a dumbass
En esta si te apoyo Norn!!
Wait wasn’t Eris mad that she was about to kill her own son but was stopped by Rudy?
This is the only part I hope the author has time to thing about and change the Norn relationship is a bit weird but it’s understandable and this one Aisha the author did her wrong.
Through the series Aisha shown interests in Rudy but Rudy pushes her away in rather see Aisha just stay as a maid to make up for what her mother did and not make a mistake.
I also think the author should have made Ariel the 4th wife or made Rudy kids get close to her part of the family.
Rudeus married his cousin and betrayed the vow he made to sylphy during the marriage by cheating on her with Roxy is in no position to judge
Cliff is real one to point that out
Disgusting for sure but rudy and Eris are just hypocrite and Eris is just plain horrible because she cut off her son's hand while she herself were doing same thing with rudy when she was his age
They are distant cousins and from different family branches. That doesn't count, even in the real world.
Taking into consideration Eris was never against it she fought Ars to measure his resolve. Cutting a hand means nothing for them, Rudeus had his arms cut twice 😂 they can just cure that bullshit
Rudeus did bad things yes, but what Aisha did was fucking insane 😂
@@shadowx8145it is still incest coupled with polygamy. That is condemnable
@@MarkelMathurinhmm it wouldn't be considered incest in most cultures and the chance of genetic defects is relative low.
They are second cousins, they have like little more than 3% common genetic material.
Cliff dropping bars lol
Being neutral is the same as agreeing to it
Not at all, it just means they abstain from intervening or don’t give an opinion at all.
@@MarcoAntonio-xy6funo that’s walking away
Idk about Ruijerd but White, Blue and Red mama are probably neutral because Rudy hates it. They most likely would agree with it as well.
@nqk_0662 it's the same shit
@@MarcoAntonio-xy6fuif you see a crime happening and you decide you want nothing to do with it as far as the criminal is concerned that means you agree with their methods. In some situations remaining silent can be interpreted as agreeing or supporting
It literally the same with us fans about the three sides of opinions about their relationship, I’m literally part of the side that thinks it is wrong but compare to other forbidden relationship it’s not a big deal
This short only made me realize Norn wouldn't mind Rudeus, if that was a possibility. What the hell 😭
Surely full sibling on sibling incest is unacceptable. Right? I sure hope so.
Nah. There's another scene where Rudy was trying to find an ideal husband for Norn since he thought it was his responsibility. When she described her preferences he at first thought she was talking about him and she asked him if he was drunk. She was talking about Rudjerd.
@@Marcus-oc4mwI meant the fact that Norn doesn't have a problem with incest 😭
@@WhiteHairSupremacywhy would she?
I mean imagine your child marrying your sister, I can understand Rudy on this one
i would have personally gave both them a therapy session , after which ars would recive a torture treatment and ashia would get to have a emotional breakdown bestowed on her by non other than me
I am pretty sure a lot of people are against it simply because rudeus is against it, if he say "weird but ok" nothing will happen. Well norn will just give aisha a weird look.
Lilia is just mad at aisha goes against rudeus's will
Eris is kinda unsure but decided to beat ars simply because ars is being a bit*h.
And as norn said incest is not that big of a deal here not even the age gap lmao. Its the fact that aisha essentially grooming ars here. Like aisha i love you. But can you wait for a couple more years? Just to make it slightly less weird
Tfum eris Doesnt Care? She cut his fucking Arm off.
Even if they would not be realeated or groomed there would still be problem and the fact that a big reason that they end up together is because Ars remsembels Rudeus and that was a big reason why, also she looks like an old hag with him.
One of the neutral people kinda cut of his arm.
Eris staying neutral my ass! She cut off ars' arm after the 'incident'... Lol
Rudeus being against incest while she's married to Eris is just...
They can’t compare polygamy to incest 😂
It is comparable
Probably would have been neutral
Still can't understand zenith and rudeus
Zenith cause she punch/slapped rudeus for marrying eris(guess banging your family is less bad than harem which can be concerning)
Rudeus cause he already done it so even if he s against it he doesn't have any right to argue
Polygamy is not the same as incest and grooming wtf. In a polygamy, everyone agrees to it and Rudeus made sure his wives understood what they were signing up for
Polygamy is disgusting, it's breaks down emotional connection to wives and children and spreads stds
Lilia is against it. The woman that GROOMED AISHA TO SEDUCE RUDEUS is against Aisha getting with Rudeus's son.
Rudeus should explain the health effects that come with incest and the risks instead of just being plain out disgusted
Eris cut off Ars arm but was still neutral to the incest?! What?!
She cut Ars' arm not because of the relationship but of responsibility for his loved ones. Eris is disappointed to her son due to his thinking of sacrificing himself for the sake of others, which in turn doubles the burden Aisha will carry if he dies. Unlike Rudeus who will gladly sacrifice his pride and prostrate, begging to spare his life and leave his family alone
@@j.nnoble7355 so she cut off his arm for a different reason from incest. Man Eris is weird sometimes.
I understand why she ain’t against incest since she essentially married her cousin. Roxxie was also neutral to the incest right? She was just disappointed Ars wanted to sacrifice himself.
@@j.nnoble7355truly degenerate to expect such resolve from an 11 year old boy
Rudeus should explain what happens to the to the offspring. Incest is taboo for a reason 😅
Like ruijard can say anything ☠️
Who else hates the millis religion?
me, but I also hate grooming 💀
The Millis religion condemns polygamy so I love it
@@MarkelMathurin I love the triad or the three goddesses religion. The goddess of love sylphie, The goddess of wisdom Roxy, The goddess of War Eris. And the three sacred objects that must be hidden at all costs.
A little hypocritical of Rudeus to judge because Eris is his second cousin
Aisha: if rudeus doesn’t want to be with. I go to his son lol😊😂
Rudeus marries his cousin and he speaks about incest 💀
I’m actual surprised Rudeus is against it, with him questioning why he isn’t aroused with his own family members before this happened, then he is upset his son is attracted.
I thought eris is also against their relationship thats why she battled ars and cutoff his arm
Bro plz try High school dxd light novel fun facts 😅😢🙏🥺
Well look who's talking 😅
Rudeus literally married his own cousin
ruijerd just can't say shit cuz he ended up with norn lmao
Ok but it’s not insest he is the son of Rudy and Aris right both of which are not blood related to the maid
Am going to love this comment section they don't know what cause the incest talk 😂
I read redundancy wn and i dont think that is norn's reason, if im not mistaken the author just mentioned that norn is againts it and just upset about what happen, the novel didnt really explain her reasons about the matter so i wonder where did this info about norns reason being grooming came from.