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🤩 Verstappen's VISION to fix F1 cars
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 16 ส.ค. 2023
- Max Verstappen has had his say on what he would do to improve F1 cars to make them more enjoyable to drive
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Love how Max is effectively saying fuck DRS I wanna destroy everyone au natural plz
Shame that wouldnt happen
@@sargublast7168 my guy he’s won like 9 races so far and like 90% of those he barely used drs. I don’t think drs is making the difference in the race
@@ploppyjr2373he literaly cant use DRS as he starts on pole..... You are not very clever arent you?
@@tiutubanana7506 yes, that’s what I’m saying. Are you illiterate
@@sargublast7168shame he destroyed the entire grid and the apparent goat in 2021
Lets just run the mid 2000s screamers again
Older cars + modern f1 drivers= AMAZING racing
Seeing a v10 f1 car on tv again would make my eyes get a little misty
Just add the halo and its perfect
Let's go back to the mid 80s V6+turbo engines that made V8s, 10s, and 12s irrelevant.
And with e-fuels it will still be carbon neutral, no matter the engine
That’s pretty honest of him to say, considering in the current regs he’s the one dominating. It’s not often a driver would advocate change if they’re winning.
*coughs* Hamilton *caughs*
I mean when you're winning so much that you're bored you'd wanna spice things up too 😂
@@user-pz9xo7tn3xHypocritmilton
Literally RBR's biggest threat is the upcoming engine reg change. He's literally catering to his interests, which is totally a reasonable thing to do.
@@user-pz9xo7tn3xMan the number of times Hamilton have said to bring the V8s back." The great white hope" bias is definitely showing in the community.
Removing the hybrid alone will solve weight, size and agility issue.
Will Never Happen. Teams Are literally only joining because the electrical output is getting bigger in 2026. If they remove Hybrid F1 would get irrelevant
@@_chaitanyajoshi Hybrids are dead lol stop spouting bollocks.
Size is also a safety factor, at those speeds significant crumple zones are required
... so make F1 irrelevant?
@@_chaitanyajoshi It would only be irrelevant for virtue signalling companies those interested in the sport would stay, this is a racing venture, not a PR campaign lol
Max's ideas are very good, which is why FIA won't implement them.
😅😅😅😅😅
Then the FIA will no longer be planning on reducing the weight and won’t make the cars smaller like they have been trying to do for over a decade now
Such a naive, surface-level take on the subject.. Even though there's many aspects of the current regs 'we' want changed, there's logical reasons behind all their decisions..
atleast he means true equality, when hamilton had the chance, never did he mention equality in cars... but The Race obviosly call max ironic... not lulu
Max Verstappen is 100% RIGHT !
the way the race say its ironic that verstappen wants equal when his car is "most aero efficient" while with lewis and his "equality" battle, they always rewarded merc and his driver and never considered it ironic that the guy calling for equality never called for equality in the sport.
@@sebastianbuse4899he also races for the only team on the grid linked to the Nazis
@@JcakRitchiewell you're not wrong
@@JcakRitchie- Alfa Romeo probably do as well.
@@JcakRitchie Stop talking shit. And the communists are on par, in fact even worse than the nazis when you look at how many they slaughtered since the 1900's.
Love how he is dominating and still suggesting change
No matter what you think of him, you can't deny the fact that the man lives and breaths for racing. If you read his words from the past two years, it's kinda clear he would love to race, not just drive alone in front of others.
He just wants easier overtake. Because these car are too huge to go alongside at all place
@@leksasdf I wasn’t hating, max is an excellent driver and he’s done incredibly well this year
Verstappen knows what’s up
As an F1 fan since 1994, I’ve seen multiple generations of F1 car, and the difference in spectacle watching these LORRIES drive around is insane. Cars need to be smaller and lighter. That should be priority number 1 as far as I’m concerned. As for DRS, engines blah blah… I don’t really care, but the cars need to be more agile, and have more room to race.
The bigger the car, the more space for sponsors.
@@matttondr9282 They should just use puddle lights that project onto the track, or holograms that float above the cars like the green diamonds above The Sims, if it means that much to them.
The Light V-10s could not hold together in a race....that is why DRS exists.
They de-emphasized the engine size, and gave the cars what they needed otherwise. Then the lap times started tumbling.
@@ArthurX-eg8bc- I’m pretty sure DRS was introduced after a back marker team introduced it as a way to improve overtaking and combat the dirty air thrown up by the overbody aerodynamics… don’t see how it was introduced because of the reliability, or lack thereof, of the v10 engines… If you can explain though I’d love to hear.
You misread my statement. The V-10s could not hold together in a pack like the much-lamented "DRS train".
The v-10s lost much downforce on approach. There was no need to put big engines in until the general situation could be solved.
He's based. Lighter cars, equal power, smaller tires, no MGU-H and let's go
No MGU-H, more drag, skinnier tires, V8 turbo Hybrids
2.0 litter V6 hybrid engines with ONLY MGU-K. Less complicated, more fun, same or more power. I would also add some 2016 style chassis with halo and aeroscreen.
@@urugamersOficial Fair point. There is a video on the Mercedes W05 when the guy says that some engineers at the chassis department suggested to use the W04 chassis if I'm not mistaken. So we could have a mix of 2016 with the Halo and aeroscreen, with 2L V8 turbo Hybrids....No DRS and....No MGU-H....Nice....starts to sound like something pretty good 😮
Equal power woulnt make sense but everything else i agree with
@@burgir9985 True, sounds like BOP 🤢. Not if F1
FIA is probably the only organization that doesn't give two fucks about what fans want
The nfl
And UCI.
Nascar and indycar as well
@MrJohansen Nascar has become entirely tone-deaf to what it's audience desires and they wonder why it's slipping each year
NASCAR, too.
He says what almost everyone who was ever involved in motorsports themselves think.
The last V8 regs were some of the best in history.
Though, overtaking was impossible without DRS. People forget that even Alonso in a drivers championship leading car, couldn’t get past a midfielder despite having fresh tires
It was better when there was room for variety in the 3.5 era.
3.5-esque style engine regs in 2009 dimension cars but with today's suspension, aero, and tyre advancements would be perfect.
@@solitaryclusterofneurons598 Honestly, I'd move to allow mode-decoupled suspension and deregulate against solid axles and de-dion. Just as long as the shit is only mechanically controlled/analog, I'm good with it.
smaller cars, lighter cars, less hybrid batteries, Max is smart
So basically he'd like to bring back the 2000s F1 cars. I could get behind that! Try and do all the environmental improvements by cutting carbon of logistics and running the tracks
if they start using renewable fuel it will be carbon neutral regardless of hybrids or non hybrids
Which means we can hopefully return to the non-hybrid engines
Yeah, lets waste there rare amount of renewable energy and lets not try to build something efficient. And then in the end you complain why that E-fuels are so expensive.
The idea is not about environmental friendliness. They idea is to walk in the path of what most manufacturers are planning for the future which is hybrids and full evs, no manufacturer is in the business of sustainable fuels except for Toyota trying to make hydrogen fuel cells happen.
@_Dibbler_ go watch formula E then. F1 is about engines not batteries. Fuck hybrids.
@@_Dibbler_bro, there are literally not enough rare earth minerals required for the us to have evs, let alone the whole world. Evs are cool but the battery tech isn't there yet. Especially since they need to be replaced after 10-12 years. Evs are the inefficient ones here.
The mark of greatness; he doesn't want what's best for him, he wants what's best for everyone else.
meanwhile Hamilton after every race with W11 : "Our Car was very slow.We were struggling the whole weekend.I gave it everything" .
Simplify, then add lightness...
Exactly. Make them smaller, lighter, and let them be powered by NA screamers again. No more of this bullshit. Max is 100% right.
Formula One is actively attempting to avoid an image of an "Orgy of Excess". Rather than relying solely on unique-fit equipment an effort was made to make sustainability and portability core tenets of the racing paradigm. ("We COULD burn six-hundred kilos of petrol very race with minimal concern, but SHOULD we?")
These engines, these tyres, these construction principles are engaging in customer vehicles all over the planet.
Manufacturers needed to understand high-speed racing areodynamics to get the new ones to stay in a pack-our pilots have provided brilliant moments of unbelievable racing at every Grand Prix.
@@ArthurX-eg8bc what
Exactly.
@@ArthurX-eg8bc what
Formula One does not have a budget problem. There is money for everything. Spending hundreds of millions on "old school racers" with huge, unregulated engines, and burning tons of fuel and tyres is not the best look this sport could afford.
Regulating high-tech engines, limiting the fuel, managing tyres and budgets gives the fan the impression that these teams have rules within which to work, which makes the teams more like the casual fan.
I think banning the Dual-Axis Steering was a mistake. Give the pilots more direct control, now that the aero packages run together would mean we could look at dropping Drag Reduction System.
When Max Verstappen talks to Zlatan, ... Zlatan hears what he has to say!
Imagine a Lion listening to a mere human
@@thabangshelengzlatan is a pathetic crybaby.
@@thabangsheleng Zlatan hasn't got half the balls! He's a p@hetic little man.
@@MahendraGaadhi where can I watch it?
Please please bring back that sound of a full V8. There is nothing like hearing and feeling that at 19000 rpm flying by you. You feel your heart almost explode when it goes past you its amazing
There actually is, V10s and V12s at 20-21k rpm 😅
Ask the big car makers who still cling onto F1 to make v8s and v6s the norm again. Oh wait, they wont, thus; F1 will remain hybrid
Basically just give us 2004 regs with whatever safety the fia wants to add and we'll have some real racing
Proper oldschool driver and that and his outright ability are what impresses me most about him. Lives, breathes and exists for the sole purpose of racing and I applaud that commitment.
Light n’ agile - sounds a good recipe.
I think he’s saying he wants a late ‘90s/‘00s F1 car. Todays cars are cool but the tech is becoming so costly and with shrinking budgets it’s hard for teams to develop a car that’s a second per lap slower than the top car
Man if f1 went back to V12 or even V10 power plants that would be amazing. Literal music to the ears
Pretty much agree with everything. But the safety elements are essential.
My vision is I WANT THE V10 SCREAMERS BACK NOWW
but climate change gihhh
@@Adeon55Its all fakee.
@@TwinBrozwhere did you get that idea?, climate change is real.
If they made the cars smaller that would help the agility, you could keep the safety and hybrid. The cars would get lighter and the mass would be more centralised and would give more chance of overtakes on the tighter tracks. They could go somewhere in-between on the wheels, they jumped from 13" to 18" which has made the cars so much less compliant. Why not a 15/16" that might be more of a happy medium.
I honestly don't think removing the hybrid component completely is necessary but some of the components should be removed. Having said that, I think many of the aerodynamic components that have been removed these past years. For example, raised noses like the ones before 2014 should come back. Ideally, the aerodynamics should be like the ones in 2008 plus ground effect while also making a few rules to reduce dirty air. V8s are much better engines and they are more reliable than V10s (they also sound better imo) so I'd bring those back too. For the rest, I agree
I can't remember if it was one of the top F1 engineers was talking about it on a podcast, but they said that removing the hybrid element would actually improve fuel efficiency because the weight savings would be so huge. Ironically, simplifying and adding lightness with a V8 would be more fuel efficient.
I would reverse the DRS so if you follow a car you get extra downforce. That can help with dirty air and combined with dragier cars that makes slipstream more powerful would help following and overtaking. I dont know how this would work out in trains tho
added weight means more energy causing more high g impacts. removing weight makes the cars safer
Where did you get a science degree?
Shouldn't it be the other way around?
With more weight, you store more kinetic energy, but the wall can only "absorb" a certain amount at a time. So if your car is heavier, it will take longer to convert that kinetic energy into other types of energy, thus reducing the deceleration of the vehicle, and as such reducing the longitudinal G forces on the driver.
Feel free to correct me tho, I'm only using my limited knowledge of physics from my school classes here
sack everyone , hire max as FIA président
Thank you Mr Verstappen, you speaking more sense than Ross Brawn is nowadays
I think they should bring back V8s with fully sustainable fuel. Best of both worlds
The problem with that solution, as with all simple solutions that they don't implement, is that it's not actually as simple as it sounds
Yeah I said something similar. Pretty sure they could make it more fuel efficient.
Imagine the V8 engines that revs up to 19,000 rpm with fully sustainable fuels, a ground effect based chassis that is smaller, lighter, and more agile. I can see it play out in my mind and I hope us fans would too but the FIA has other ideas
They should bring back refueling makes the races so much better and closer bc everyone can choose different fuel amounts so some cars stop sooner or lyre depending on fuel
Run the 2016 chassis again , they were atleast much shorter, narrower, lighter and could fit a hybrid engine because let's face it the days of running non hybrids is long gone and won't return.
2016 chassis with halo, the current curved wings and ground effects and less body aero for closer racing , drs removal , mgu-h removal and reduce 18" wheels to 16" low/thin profiles instead of the 13" high/thick profiles, so it's not as tall and blinding as the 18s but it's atleast more responsive and stable than the 13s.
So basically take the 2016 chassis and change it beyond all recognition
Bring back in-race refuelling. It would make the cars lighter (more agile), smaller (makes overtaking easier), and tyres can be made more durable because of it (more aggressive racing).
Max uses the battery more than anyone else in the top 10. It would be wild if he suggested elimination of hybrid feature
I think that the new engine regs isnt what manufacturers drawn to f1 are, but its the fans, the amount of brand recognition is gonna be insane.
With the size of the wheels and the halo, it’s amazing how they can see where they are going at 200 miles per hour
100% agree with him on the tyres. They should get back to mid-90s sized tyres. However this would give Pirelli nightmares.
The FIA is more likely to eliminate gasoline engines all together before they go back to v8's.
Yeah true. In 10y we only have formula E.... and f1 will be a thing of the past
Wouldn't that be a Liberty Media/F1 decision, not FIA?
They'll loose a lot of viewers then. I dont watch formula E, and i wont watch Formula 1E
Idk why they won’t adapt V8 since they are still considered by many, at least in America, to be the pinnacle of engines.
Smaller tyres amen to that
No one in the world still uses a thirteen-inch tyre.
Now that we have airtime dedicated to "tyre compounds"-we should understand how much work the manufacturers put in-which would be wasted on a tyre no one else could have. The manufacturer would then have to reformulate tyre compounds for road cars.
Give them a break
@@ArthurX-eg8bc what has a slick F1 tyre got to do with a road tyre 🤦
Ask the tyre manufacturers. The thirteen holds and disappates heat differently than a twenty-one inch tyre. Both tyres have to be formulated. The 'recipe' for the thirteen gets wasted because there are no other thirteen-inch tyres.
@@ArthurX-eg8bc it was the FIA's decision to change the tyre and wheel size and now they realised they messed up on everything, again 🤦.
It’s such a myth that the weight has to do with safety. Besides the halo, which is only 3kg, the new cars aren’t any safer in a real scenario than the 2010 cars.
God can you imagine V8 cars again?... damn
Or v10s
Or V12s
Or V20s
Replace the sprint races with go kart races.
FIA won't agree they want cars to be worse
I want less grippy cars so we see abit more sliding action or oversteer
the easiest way to drop the weight is to drop the size of the car down. A WEC style bounding box, narrower wings and tyres along with the planned even smaller fuel tank and simplified hybrid system should bring down weight significantly (albeit not down to V8 levels)
It's not just 'appeasing' car manufacturers to reuse braking energy, its kind of common sense. However the cars are way too heavy. Bringing back refueling or reducing weight in other areas, for example as max suggests the front tyres would make more sense.
refueling would be great. they say it was dangerous, but if they limit it to regular fuel pumps like endurance racing does, that would solve that.
the main reason it was dangerous before is that the pumps were high pressure and locked into place on the car. if that lock wasnt seated right, it would spray fuel everywhere and thats how you get fires like in jos's case.
couple this with smaller front wheels, no drs, more drag and a hybrid system like super formula and you get a car thats substantially lighter.
@@XenonArcher Super Formula has no hybrid
@@XenonArcherrefueling would be pretty primitive. It will add so much complications to strategy and the pit crew will have more responsibility which would be a waste, we just want to see racing not more constructor championship.
What about Alonso started off in 605kg V10
all the way to 798kg hybrids
How about bring back the V10 or V12 engines. I like the super high pitched sound of those.
I agree especially with ditching the hybrids.
The engine part is definitely the memo RB sent him to say to the media. Getting rid of the hybrid part helps RB a lot, since that's the most costly and hard to implement part of the engine.
The rest is pretty much what every driver wants, smaller and lighter cars to have closer battles and less fuel needed .
Every driver wants to get rid of the hybrids and wants to go back to loud V8's...
@user-ri9dn4vi6 may i ask why exactly?
Verstappens f1 please
The V8 cars at 600kg and 1750x4500mm dimensions were plenty safe. Ditching the hybrid crap is the fastest and easiest way to allow weight savings and downscaling of the cars. I'm 100% with him, just keep the wakes clean so passing and close racing are possible.
Make more shorts like this for all drivers. This was an interesting look at their perspectives
They definitely should do away with all the hybrid bits, the turbos, and return to naturally aspirated perfection.
ngl at this rate that the cars are developing, wed have the same starting as finishing grid on Monacos circuit
Making the cars smaller and lighter will make it a little bit easier for the drivers to overtake at tracks like Monaco
I actually like the more complicated part. These are the conditions where clever inovations are born.
And any findings could be the groundwork of future technology. That is why I enjoy F1 so much over a lot of other race cars.
Getting rid of the hybrid is one option, but not a good one as it doesn't really change power delivery. Getting rid of the turbo would be a better solution while staying road-relevant as that is what's causing the more notable power delivery issues.
I agree with getting rid of the hybrid, not just because of how the car drives but also because it would make those cars more environmentally friendly. No battery means less weight means less fuel consumption. I bet that if you make a similar performance pure combustion engine car it uses less fuel than a hybrid one while also being safer to drive and easier to maintain and fix if something goes wrong.
Agree with everything!! We had the best racing from the 2000s to the 2013 cars could go wheel the wheel for almost half a lap and stay nose to gear box. Bring back refueling so that when drivers are on track they are going 100% not this management bs. We want to see racing, not a train of cars going round and round.
I would remove the turbos before the hybrid system, as I think that would improve the power delivery way more than removing the hybrid would (and it would make the engines sound way better). With carbon-neutral synthetic fuels coming I don’t see any justification for keeping the turbos, unlike the hybrid systems which might still be important for developing technologies that can trickle down to road cars (which is really the whole point of F1).
Draggier cars have already been tried with the previous generation and it was a disaster : compared to 2016, the amount of overtaking manoeuvres halved in 2017. Yes, you will get a stronger tow behind another car, however that is only on a straight. With even more drag, you'll have so much dirty air that following will be impossible in a medium or fast corner. Max seems to have forgotten that draggy cars is the reason why we have DRS in the first place.
That said, I totally agree with him about the cars being too long and too heavy. I, too, would like to see lighter, shorter cars with smaller, narrower tyres.
it was not because the cars were draggier, but because of all the aerodynamic paraphernalia that created a way too turbulent air behind the car. the 2022 reg tried top solve this but I guess the cars are too big and too heavy to take any advantage from the less turbulent air
Aerodynamics arent black and white. Without a doubt, max knows a lot better than you do
That is because in 2017 they complicated the aerodynamic elements more to generate more downforce, which as a side effect caused dirty air to be rampant to the car behind necessarily slowing them down and unable to follow. I don't think that is what Max meant
@@hiran4935 sounds fair enough to me 🙂.
That said, what do you think did he mean exactly? How do you think would one make a car draggier without making it produce even more dirty air? Seriously, I'd be interested to know 🤓.
@@latelierpunk1348 By making the dirty air to be directed up towards the sky from the back wing rather than making it directly go back at towards the car behind. In fact, the 2021 cars had complex aero devices on sidepods and on front wing which created vortices to produce downforce, producing so much turbulence behind. The new floor on the other hand makes streamlined perfect clean air comparatively relying on the Bernoulli principle instead of vortices generation, like an inverted plane wing. However at the same time cars got heavier because of the new tyres, negating whatever the advantage gained from aero change.
Ok, here is my idea: bring back the designs from the 60’s or 70’s, with the 70’s cars just add a halo and a better engine and with the 60’s cars just add a halo, better roll hoop, front wing, rear wing, new engine, and you’re good.
You need more than a fucking halo to make the 70s cars safe.
@@mintgoldheart6126Just add more hay bales around the track. That should make it safer.
@@geckowizard Bandini would have a thing to say about that.
Yeah he’s 100% right, hybrid won’t go away but making the cars smaller and lighter would be way better.
Make the cars 15-20cm smaller (as in width), make the tires smaller (not as in rim size, but also width). This will also cut down some weight. Probably near 75-100kg.
The hybrid engine is necessary so batery technology is pushed and improved
The race is hybrid to keep it relevant. The point in F1 was always to develop and showcase new technology.
the voice crack not even one minute in, the grey hoodie, the somber tone and no make-up. laura's might've been the blueprint for the messy apology, but manny's apology is THEE blueprint
I think engines should be free design with a fuel consumption and emission limits
Replace battery packs with capacitor banks.
i think everyone agrees with that
Especially the fans wouldnt miss hybrid and DRS, people would love the f1 to come back to more classical racing
V8’s on synthetic fuels with KERS systems seem a fantastic solution. And he is correct. The weight needs to come down at least 85kg and that can be easily achieved with shorter wheelbase and narrower track.
Ulreich ist einfach zu sympathisch
If we brought v8s back, a vettel & verstappen duo would be lethal
I think everyone would be happier if the FIA re-adopted the 2004 regs and slap a halo and the modern tires on the cars
I think the hybrid part is actually NOT in the interest of car manufacturers. They cost money and the marketing aspect is negligible.
I mean how many purchase decisions are actually or partially based on what manufacturer has the "best MGU-H/MGU-K"?
I'd put that at around zero.
Lets just bring back the F1 cars from 1989 / 90 Those are loads of fun.
Also, look at how exciting the F2 feature race was at Monaco.
Why can’t the cars be smaller? Everything would be so much better then dragging around a literal speed boat through corners like a Monaco hairpin
Going to a true flat bottom floor would save the teams time and money. The comparison between a McLaren MP4/4 and Red Bull's RB19 really opened my eyes. I hadn't realized how freakin' huge the current F1 cars have gotten.
I’d love to see F1 take all the time and money they waste on rule changes “to make overtaking easier” and spend it on rule changes “to make the 2008 cars as safe as the current cars”, without touching the drivetrains, and with as little extra weight as possible.
Bring 2003-2005 cars
I would take the tire issues seriously if they care about safety, but I would make the cars smaller also
I have always felt that the switch to larger diameter tires AND rims was illogical and against the main goals of F1. They slow the car significantly, not just because of overall car weight but because there is a huge increase in rotational inertia which further reduces acceleration and braking. Furthermore, brakes and suspension parts have to be heavier and more gas must be used, etc. etc. Then your field of vision is reduced. Crazy in my book.
And special aero packages for Monaco that do away with front and rear wings altogether.
Please bring back the V10s
Personally I think the only 2 technical regulations should be a maximum width and a CO2/KM limit. Let’s see some innovation!
People in this comment section really showing how little they know about prestigious racing.
Corporate manufacturer interests will always govern motorsport on this level because they are the ones who fund it. It is not about you, the spectators and it never has been.
So unless you want to socialize and fund racing yourself collectively, you'll never have a voice at the big corporate boy's table.
I think we can't go back on regular engines but the cars really need to be smaller and no DRS in it.
The point is that we want to push technology that can eventually make its way into our own vehicles. Hybrid and larger wheels are definitely things that would translate, although there are plenty of things that just won't. That said, as much as I'd like to have more cylinders for the fun factor, it's not going to push us forward to go back to V8s or even larger engines. We already know it'd be way faster to cut out all the safety features and double the pistons. But, how do we make the cars as fast or faster with less?
Just bring back V10s and couple it with DRS and get refuelling back. Yes some might argue refuelling isn't safe but in all those years we might have only seen very few mishaps with refuelling. That'll make the cars ultra light and exciting again.
Refuelling is only unsafe if you're in a McLaren. 😂
The persons who construct the tyres for your Egoista also have to make tyres for the RB20. The situation is better for all involved for those two tyres to be somewhat relevant to each other. The thirteent-inch Formula One Tyre ceased to have a secondary purpose, so it was unsuited even for advertising, Champ.
Turn the cars back into coupes and take out the video game steering wheel. They get a round wheel with two buttons, one is kill, the other drivers choice, boost, drs, within reason but that's what they get for that race.
Smaller tyres are important both in height AND in width
And at least 6 inch of the car width and 10 inches of the car length and back to 750kg
He just needs to go back to karting!
-Less weight
-Smaller Vehicle
-Smaller Tyres