i think “dark empathy” comes from living with emotionally unstable/manipulative caregivers during childhood. You are forced to interpret the mood of the unstable parent daily, and can never truly unwind and feel safe. Your emotions get used against you by those parents and so you lock them up inside. You understand people fine but you dont allow yourself to feel.
im a dark empath and have all the symptoms and what u said is correct and also lacking things, i had a very bad childhood which im not gonna explain and i also do believe it is genetic as well. my father has aspd and is a sociopath and so it might have something to state why i am prob a dark empath.
That's true I realized I have some sociopath behavior. And I was raised by an unstable parent. With a narcissist aunt that controls my mom if she needs to.. I can't blame my aunt since she has some trauma and she is mostly the favorite since childhood.
Dark empathy is being self-aware of personal malice and choosing when to use it for personal gain or entertainment, and when to "dial-down" when it is more beneficial or convenient. Psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists are either really bad at hiding their nature or they simply don't bother to, but these disorders will stick out like sore thumbs. Meanwhile, dark empathy has an "on/off" switch and does a good job recognizing and calculating risks and consequences of antisocial behavior.
I shouldn’t go too much on what any psychiatrists say I was in the hospital vomiting blood and having heart attacks and got diagnosis of bi polar and paranoid and delusional yet the evidence of how sick I was they recorded in blood tests and ECG’s they never test for any chemical imbalance nor do any brain scans they can apparently diagnose mental issues by asking 5 questions and ignoring all your health issues and proper tests! You’ll know yourself h whether she’s a sociopath or not because they don’t feel emotions as we do they are intrinsically selfish people who use and abuse others psychopaths will take it one step further and actually harm people and feel pleasure from doing it!
Fun fact: Psycopaths can also have a very high cognitive empathy, feel like a psychopath crossed with a dark empath is quite the sleep paralysis demon.
The huge difference comes down to their sense of self in my opinion Dark empaths are aware of who they are But psychopaths have referred themselves as being just atoms occupying space
Narcissism is actually fueled by deep shame, a shame that the narcissist feels but can't acknowledge. Their entire personality is built up as a defense against this shame, which, since they can't acknowledge it, they can't deal with it or process it either. This is why the narcissist's whole personality revolves around a) defending themselves against feelings of shame, by self-aggrandizement, and b) shaming others, weaponizing that which has caused them so much damage. Ironically, both of these behaviors are shameful, resulting in a downward spiral of repression, defense and shame which it is nearly impossible for the narcissist to break free from. Narcissists are people who have been deeply damaged by their own actions. Although they can never acknowledge it, they feel their shame deeply, and all of the narcissistic traits are comitted to ensuring that the narcissist never has to confront it, instead weaponizing it as bullying and gaslighting.
THE DARK EMPATHS ARE NOT MEDICAL CONDITION AS ALL THE REST ❗❗❗ WHERE DID THEY FIND THOSE TOTAL CRAP THINGS ON THIS VIDEO, THEY MAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR DARK MIND❗❗❗ S H A M E ON THEM AND TO THE CREATORS OF THIS CRAP VIDEO❗❗❗ GO CHECK THEMSELVES, T H E Y A R E D A R K ❗❗❗
“There is simply no winning with a narcissist. He will treat you so horribly that you will become withdrawn and depressed and then he will turn around and say, ‘You’re no fun anymore, you’re always so depressed. I need to be with someone more positive.’” - Susan Williams
Being raised by a Narcissist is a hassle at the best of times, and outright cruel at the worst. And each and every one of the dark traits is extremely dangerous in their own way, in my opinion, there is no winner. But thank you guys for the channel, I learned a lot about myself!
The word neurology uses as empathy mean a different thing than the psicology term. Just a different set of things. ADHD and Autistic people don't have the psychological lack empathy, we have the neurologic one.
@@acabral2651 I'd say there's less there physiologically to support the construction of empathic neurological patterns, but not an absolute lack. Otherwise we'd all be physiological psychopaths.
I have schizophrenia and can not detect the true intent nor the type of person others are. This is portrayed as negative also. However, I feel I have worked around the issue. I avoid everyone in order to avoid becoming a victim to social predators. I know this sounds the opposite of what people with my two conditions do. Usually schizophrenics that can not detect the emotions of others, nor their true intent, are the ones attacking the other people. However, I am peaceful and wish no malevolence on others.
Recently, I've read that Sadism has been added to this list, making the Dark Tetrad a defining characteristic. I know that the DE I was involved with for eight years was incredibly sadistic.
I dated a dark empath, she was a very broken person, and would rather drag me down with her, into her hole of despair, than see me happy. Extremely controlling, and energy draining, its hands down the saddest and most depressed I've been my entire life. Ive experienced many hardships in life, but dating this person was by far the worst experience of my life.
I don't see the control part here. I get that you're not a rehab for broken people, but this doesn't seem like the malicious ideation physch2go explained.
Sounds like a covert narcissist. You probably heard a cry for help and took two step towards the sound. Instead of coming towards you, she took two steps backwards into the darkness. You probably ended a few miles into the darkness eventually before running away.
Here’s the thing about being a dark empath, it feels good to make other people feel good. Once they figure that out, they can be selfish while being kind to others.
The strange thing about life is that your own selfish wishes might be beneficial to others. Especially if you are in an organization. People who understand empathy knows burning those bridges would get you kicked out and lose everything for good reason. After all, if you truly love yourself, why harm yourself by openly being an asshole to others without having an objective viewpoint of you and your surroundings? For an empath that is simply foolishness and lack of awareness. It's a defence mechanism and a very effective one.
yepp, specially when you are mature enough to understand that making people feeling bad will bite your ass You dont have to be a kind hearted person, morality can be logical, nowadays everyone can and will talk about you and your actions so being a jerk can and will have unforseen consequences that you, as a dark empath, wont be able to predict, so its easier and more rentable to be a good person all the time Seriously, psycopaths and dark empaths are the best of those, rarely they will harm people (if they are at least smart) while sociopaths are too much unpredictable and narcissists wont have the same tools to interpret and react to avoid harmful behavior
@@guifdcanalli It is probably no coincidence that "knowledge" and "understanding" is considered a virtue more powerful than simple virtues if you understand you can essentially prevent yourself and your base urges from overiding you.
I NEVER REALATED TO ANYTHING THIS BAD. it's like a super power basically like reading other minds but u cannot be 100% sure, so it's easy for people with high empathy to make other happy, it could become obsessive really, it's a kind of self validation even, it's it's easy ro do the opposite u know exactly where to hit to fir the emotional damage. I feel like emotional empathy prolly have a good sarcasm too lol. But sadly everything comes At a price.
As the child of what my mother likes to call a “garden variety narcissist”, I can say that the narcissist segment was pretty accurate (at least in my experience, bc I know these disorders can appear in different forms). I see a lot of people see narcissism as just extreme entitlement or an inflated amount of self-confidence, what really depicts a narcissist is manipulation and viewing others as tools. And not all narcissists appear overly confident or self-obsessed.
The ones who don't appear confident have a chance to be a covert narcissist is like a combo of a psychopath and a narcissist they like to appear not confident and normal but from the inside they think they are like the best also they hurt others indirectly like a normal narcissist will just hit you but a covert narcissist will destroy you mentally and put you in terrible pressure for their joy and motivation as covert narcissists do get motivation out of destroying anybody's mental or physical health also covert narcissists are experts at making new relationships then they just suddenly abuse you mentally in a horrible way so keep out an eye for any covert narcissists trying to trick you
A complex topic when you consider that there are sociopathic and psychopathic narcissists, so I can’t see how it’s possible to isolate these disorders into a comparison when all inflict damage and, sadly, form mirroring in their victims to cope with them.
THE DARK EMPATHS ARE NOT MEDICAL CONDITION AS ALL THE REST ❗❗❗ NOT EVEN DOCTORS HAVE A THEORY OR A DEFINITION OR A DESCRIBE FOR DARK EMPATHS❗❗❗ WHERE DID THEY FIND THOSE TOTAL CRAP THINGS ON THIS VIDEO, THEY MAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR DARK MIND❗❗❗ S H A M E ON THEM AND TO THE CREATORS OF THIS CRAP VIDEO❗❗❗ GO CHECK THEMSELVES, T H E Y A R E D A R K ❗❗❗
Is that your personal diagnosis or do you know for a fact a psychologist has diagnosed each of them with said disorder? Don't assume mental illness some people dont have one and simply mimic them because their bad people, or you magnify those qualities from your perspective because of some sort of grudge against those people
Hi guys. I have narcissistic personality disorder, and what I want to say is... "normal" people never seem to stigmatize others. In popular culture, there are images of terrible madmen who will destroy you as soon as you get into their field of vision. No one will think that the same evil, despicable psychopaths only in twenty percent of cases have a tendency to sadism. Only a part of them can be aggressive. For that, the overwhelming majority suffers from depression... I am generally silent about people with my disorder. There are idiots with inflated self-esteem, and there are narcissists. We have it understated. Always. Here, as in Marina's song - "I feel the worst, so I will behave like the best." This is just a way of psychological protection. Narcissists are not always cruel manipulators without empathy. Most often, these are people who feel pathological weakness and emptiness. They do everything to prove their importance to the world. They spend all their strength on it. But whatever successes you would not come to, it will not be enough for you. No matter how well you have done something, and no matter how much praise you receive, you will look at it and say "Not enough". Do you want to distinguish a narcissist? Look at the people who do the most, do their best to hide their weaknesses and sometimes ask for compliments. And then they feel ashamed for it. Just in case, I apologize. If something in the text was unclear, it was because I was writing in another language and using a translator.
Wow and like the narcissist you are, again turning it around. "My victims are wrong, they're the one without empathy, they abuse and bully, I'm the little victim here, I'm so perfect. I'm evil but in control, praise me.". Oh well. We see you. We know. Don't bother wasting time. You think victims never learn ? Look at that, why would you even walk in that video and brag about your condition ? You're aiming to upset all these victims in there. You just want to reactivate their trauma. You're so in control you're out to do business as usual, you can't even connect on TH-cam without looking up for people to gaslight and abuse. You could be listening to a song, watching some other thing, but instead you're here dishing victim-blaming and shaming and hoping to find someone weak, maybe a young vulnerable child, that you can suck the joy and health out of. You really have no empathy. I really feel so bad for all the people here who have to watch that gaslighting as though they don't get enough in their lives. Not to mention the exemple it sets. And to know at the end of the day you will feel not an ounce of remorse for putting such an awful post.
@@artius6170 It depends on a variety of creteria, including the severity of the disorder, comorbidity and upbringing. All narcissists, one way or another, have reduced empathy, but it is not absent if they also do not have a Dissocial Disorder.
I've found that psychopaths tend to be far more logically based. They analyse situations, consciously or unconsciously, and determine the outcomes. Then they pick the one that will suit them best.
Yes and it's fkn annoying. I am a psychopath and Ilogically analyze whether upvoting or downvoting a Reddit post will be more beneficial to my life in the long run.
I can say it’s dark empathy bc psychopaths have no empathy but dark empathy have conginive empathy but not the other two. So.. you don’t need a psychopath to be dangerous!
THE DARK EMPATHS ARE NOT MEDICAL CONDITION AS ALL THE REST ❗❗❗ NOT EVEN DOCTORS HAVE A THEORY OR A DEFINITION OR A DESCRIBE FOR DARK EMPATHS❗❗❗ WHERE DID THEY FIND THOSE TOTAL CRAP THINGS ON THIS VIDEO, THEY MAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR DARK MIND❗❗❗ S H A M E ON THEM AND TO THE CREATORS OF THIS CRAP VIDEO❗❗❗ GO CHECK THEMSELVES, T H E Y A R E D A R K ❗❗❗
These are in varying degrees harmful and dangerous, depending on their method and means of exploitation and abuse. Someone intuitive as a 𝐃𝐚𝐫𝐤 𝐄𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐭𝐡 could seem harmless, but are plotting when to weaponize the vulnerability of their target and how to mess with their head, like it is fun sport. They know how damaging and horrible they may treat people and yet lack remorse nor have no conscience at all. You also cannot rely on their moral compass nor their capacity to do good out of genuine and compassionate empathy.
not how that actually works. i am convinced that these so called dark empaths are just immature hyoka empaths. who can use their empathy to get what they want since they are strong empaths who are strong on thebdark triad.... they are still empaths and often only go after people who annoy them.
The thing is, the Dark Empath can turn it on and off... When they want to intuitively see into you, they can... They CAN feel, too... just like you and me. The trouble comes whenever they just DECIDE not to... so whatever wrong they do won't bother them in the slightest. THAT is what makes them dangerous. At least, with a Psychopath, you can occasionally catch a glimpse of their "studying". You CAN set them up with an emotionally ambiguous situation and room or crowd, and they won't know what to do or how to act. Psycho's and Sociopaths are the ones who most frequently tell me things like "I'm not sure whether to shake your hand or punch you in the face." Which is fine by me... At least, I know who or what they are... and even when they don't say as much in as many words, I can usually catch it in their expressions when they're obviously confused about how to act or what emotion to express... ;o)
I’ve personally dealt with my parent which I’ve had to assume they are a narcissist. If I wasn’t getting physically abused for mildly bad or just regular child behavior, like playing with toys for too long, there was just nonstop screaming. Screaming and shaming her damned kids for not being enough, doing enough, when me and my older sister indeed learned how to clean the house from top to bottom before I turned 8 and my sister turned 12. With each incident we tried to adapted to her with what she had to tell us. Clean clean clean even when she wouldn’t teach us in times we didn’t understand and if we didn’t get it don’t take a bath or sit down for even a second. If you’re too comfortable it’ll be snapped out of you even quicker. I can remember the times I’d been beaten out of a bath utterly naked just to learn I did nothing wrong and will not be receiving an apology. I believe manipulative tendencies came slowly as she realized she couldn’t hit us anymore, or rather not as often. The last time I was beat the same manner was at 16 and the last time she put her hands on me and slapped me was at 18. The entitlement she thinks she has over her children is disgusting. She’s treated me like a slave my whole life and I can’t wrap my head around why I’m unable to leave, but I do know the reason. It still is and always has been too risky for me to leave shelter. I have no money, no friend to stay with, and I would most likely end up on the street. I’ve vowed to become so independent I’m unrecognizable. So mentally stable despite all horrors I’ve had in this house. The psychological and unjust trauma I’ve accumulated because of my family, and my mother alone before turning a double digit is so damn unacceptable. Thanks for reading 💞
Maybe hide a camera somewhere so the next time she assaults you it’s caught on film? Then take the footage to the cops and tell them that you’re living in a dangerous situation. I know you’re afraid of ending up on the street, but is there anyone you’re close with who you can talk to about maybe crashing at their place for a while? And I wouldn’t be so sure about you not having any trauma. I’m not a licensed psychologist so take my words with a grain of salt but enduring years of abuse typically leaves some scarring. Hope all that helps, and hopefully you’ll get out of there soon!
@@matthacker3481 i am still struggling with the same situation....as i am still a student... physical mental and emotional abuse...she feeds to me everyday the same line - you'll end just like my jobless sister... you show the same triaits as her...you are worthless...you will end up in places you can't even think of .....you will have no option other than dying..then you'll come to me begging of saving you and then I wont help you...its hard to ignore all this everyday when you're not allowed to even go out of your house or your room
Sociopath: You caused he pain. Pyschopath: I caused the pain. Narcissistic: I dont know which caused the pain, it just wasnt me. Dark Empath: Im so sorry for your pain! Im going to bring it back up.
The dark empath is probably the most dangerous in my opinion. Imagine someone who willingly wreaks havoc regardless of their empathy/conscience.. something that all of us neurotypicals have yet not even THAT stops them from taking advantage of people.
As I already wrote under a comment, ALL of them *know* (using study or adding "intuition") what you're feeling... but they don't *feel* it inside them (no real empathy), so they don't care about your feelings and they can use them to get what they want (what they want sometimes is to destroy you). Sociopaths and psychopaths add very often an attraction to the worst and most illegal actions a human being can do, just using others to reach a goal is not enough. Anyway the video may lead people to "overlook" narcissists, but *I met both narcissists and sadists* who watched videos of tortures (probably psychopaths or dark empaths or, don't know, maybe sociopaths), and I found narcissists more dangerous on a long-term cos they can make you their toy for 5-10-50 years (while they still can become a positive part of society if they work on themself in a psychotherapic path). With narcissists there are no huge explosions but instead it's a wreckage, it's a yo-yo cos after they destroyed you emotionally they start to make you feel special again, their best friend and a precious human being. The video doesn't reach this channel standards, doesn't look so accurate and clear.
Anyway non-neurotypical people are half of the population and most part of the people watching channels like this. HSP, Asperger, long time depression, maniac depression, plus gifted people, schizophrenia, etc: believe it or not, some of the best people out there can be defined with one of these tags. Instead narcissists and most manipulators are neurotypical but can/wanna destroy you.
I've felt narcissists are more difficult to deal with. Narcissists have a need to involve you in their grandure, being a grey rock isn't a permanent fix but a consistent effort while a psychopath can lose interest in you permanently if you know what their angle is and what not to respond to.
@Kurtis Gilmore Honestly I do agree with you, but what sort of people would you consider the person I am naming: He tends to pretend to be multiple people at once, use their alternative ego to commit things like suicide to cause reaction in actual person, once a person understands their thinking, they lose interest, and they pretend to have multiple-personality disorder.
@Kurtis Gilmore i do wonder how many functioning narcissists there are compared to functioning psychopaths. As you said, psychopaths lack the wildness narcissists can have. Not talking about the ultimate display of "harm" in the form of murder, since physical violence is unacceptable in current day society. Narcissists routinely destroy a targets sense of self, social structures and such when their perceived status is threatened or even out of boredom at a frequency you can set your watch to. If we could have statistics on how many events that negatively affect others are induced by said personalities, i have a feeling a narcissist would rank higher. Then again, you only have to be killed once, you can survive toxic bullying. So perhaps a definition of harm is needed.
I was so empathetic when I was younger and everyone knew it. I knew everything about my friends. Now, when it came to anger, I was fairly good at holding it in. But in high school, I would explode and have black-out rage. I would suddenly throw all the things someone confided in me back at them tenfold. Took quite of bit of therapy to stop doing that and I can't say that I don't get the urge from time to time. Edit: I'm fully aware of what caused my anger issues but that doesn't excuse how I treated others when I got angry.
I actually struggle with this exact same thing. It’s causing me to wonder if I show extreme signs of dark empathy. I’ve always been known to be empathic to others but it never felt in the same way that they had thought
I had such a friend... I can say it was a disgusting feeling to listen to all my private problems (which I told her about earlier) in a public forum when she got angry (especially when she was wrong). She's a nice person, very intelligent, absolutely sweet, I like her very much and I wish she would understand it as you do.
Dark empath is very real. I had a relationship where this person would seem like they wanted to know everything about me, and they did. Later on in the relationship, they used all of my personal information against me in many arguments... That's just one example of what they did.
I think it's more like a malignant narcissist. Such as saying they want to hold the rope while you strangle to death so they can watch your eyes fade. Or they secretly drug you and r*pe you. Then you become pregnant. Then during an argument they reveal their secret that they "finished" in you on purpose because they know you wouldn't/couldn't abort.... while laughing and smiling in your face. Purposefully trying to just be sinister and hurt you in every way imaginable.
Yikes… I understand empathy, but I will not feel what you feel. I was diagnosed with BPD and CPTSD and I’ve asked my therapist if I was a narcissist, but she told me I wasn’t and that my outbursts are caused by a trigger where I relive a traumatic experience and that I shut down emotionally because it’s how my brain protects itself. I also turn inward on myself instead of hurt others on purpose and would rather just unalive than to hurt my loved ones anymore. Idky I lack the feeling of empathy. I was emotionally repressed since I was 12, I’m 32 now and finally got help. Mental illness is wild.
I'm technically a victimistic narcissist, apparently. I do have a shit ton of traumas so I project a better, more emotional intelligent version of myself into the world while I need to make others deal with my shit instead of myself because I feel worthless and as if I can't handle it. It's hell and I do make people around me suffer, but I hate that. I don't want to prey on people. I want to be loved and feel safe. I know there's many many cases and human psychology is so complex, but it saddens me not to find almost any material teaching someone like myself to learn to handle the disorder better. I happen to go to therapy, but that's a privilege. What about those who can't?
if oyu have bpd your life has been hell, it is a trauma created personality, you need so much love and support and no matter how you cope with your feelings, wether you self harm or cut off- just you being aware of it makes you better than people who are toxic who may have bpd but just go onto meds and don't even persue diagnosis or treatment, much love to you sensitive creative loving bpd in progress because you started off life at the bottom and never knew it- the illness is like spending your entire life crawling toward a light that is always out of reach
@@danielwhite1135 and the theme song is lovefool with just them smiling as the people around them commit suicide, go into debt, go to hospital, and pack and leave.
To be honest, the worst one is the one that crosses your path. I have a narcissist father and my mom and I have the scars, both physical and emotional, to show how terrible it can be. I’ve had a narcissist in my path for my whole live but if my father had any of the other traits the hits, insults and manipulation would have hurt all the same. Just be careful people and stay away from this a**holes
My son-in-law is a narcissist and put us through hell until we realised we could simply have nothing more to do with him. Life has been pretty good for the whole family ever since.
I mean i am pretty sociopathic and i think the moment you push me hard enough for me to do something, you deserve whats coming, but am genuinly scared of psychopaths
After watching this video, I realized that my elder brother is sociopathic... He hits me rudely sometimes he gets angry, he can't be controlled even there's parents.. but when I begin to cry he says sorry and be sad about his bad temperedness... he doesn't even know he is a sociopath... he is a human
My issue with the “dark empath” distinction is that psychopaths are usually highly capable of cognitive empathy. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be so manipulative. I suppose there are psychopaths who don’t utilize cognitive empathy, but that would just mean tha dark empaths are a subtype of psychopathy, rather than a distinct archetype.
i d say that psychopaths dont have empathy bc a part of the left hemisphere isn’t active (which causes the lack of empathy and not understanding) while dark empaths understand but bc they don’t posses emotional empathy which make them not feel bad or hurt when they see chaos and destruction. which means they are similar yes but their brain activity is completely different.
Psychopaths can't feel empathy, but they can understand how it works that is also why a psychopath could sometimes not know when to respond with false empathy while a "dark empath" is someone who can feel empathy, but decides to instead of care for it use it to know when to take advantage of someone else
I think any empath can be dark throughout their life. For the most part they're positive and nurturing. But if put in situations that make them lose focus on the positive. Eventually they experience dark dark times and they can learn how to use their empathic abilities in a defensive way and sometimes that turns dark. I'm bipolar and also empathic I've personally went through some dark points in my life. I eventually find myself and ground myself and balance myself and I get back to that positive, good energy spreading me. Im not proud of those times but I learned alot from them. So I'll take whatever good I can from them.
@@SorrowAvenue As the operators of the most complex and powerful device in the universe, prone to such horrendous misuse and malfunction, everyone should strive to be an armchair psychologist.
I've been around all kinds of personalities. I still think that dark empaths while being manipulative can still have empathy so they're not too harsh like sociopaths and psychopaths who might turn violent either physically or mentally. Maybe I'm wrong though, I don't know..
I think some people may have a combination of sociopathy and being a dark empath, it just seems like it could go hand in hand, maybe even escalate to psychopathy
@@Bhizzyi or that means u can observe people, which is a good thing to have so u know what people are like before anything’s happens and so you can protect urself from any people that show red flags. or what u said just means u can read their emotions and vibes they give off.
its so corny seeing some people in the comments thinking they actually have one of these disorders because they were mean to a friend before or some other dumb reason.
I really think every empaths should embrace a bit of darkness. True empathy can be very hurtful and overwhelming, so processing it at least partly through cognition, and less with emotion can be useful for oneself and to help others. Also, I noticed that we tend to attract narcissistic and histrionic personalities who like to pray and feed on us, so learning to weaponize empathy not to manipulate but as self-defense can be a good thing
@@Maliniasredmask, from what I understand, there are many people who fit the diagnosis of one of these four categories of disorders who live fairly normal lives. Famously, there is a neurologist who was once conducting a study in which they did brain scans of ordinary people and of diagnosed psychopaths, and observing very specific differences. For the heck of it, he and his colleagues in the study decided to scan their own brains as well. Upon reviewing his own scan, he immediately noticed it had the exact same features as those of the psychopaths from the study. After consulting with friends and family he realized he really did have the traits of a psychopath, but it simply didn’t manifest in extreme ways because he had a happy childhood and a more or less normal life. With the diagnosis and some cognitive behavioral therapy he was able to improve his relationships even further by safeguarding against the most harmful traits. This is all to say that, even if you are a “dark empath” as you fear, it isn’t necessarily the life sentence you may think it is. In fact, a diagnosis may be helpful, in that you’d have self knowledge. With that knowledge and the modern tools of cognitive behavioral therapy, it seems more possible than ever to live a meaningful life with such conditions.
In my opinion dark empaths (If we are to use that term) are simply a type of psychopath. A lot of diagnosed psychopaths have cognitive empathy, this is well known. Same goes for sociopaths as well, although sociopaths can sometimes feel secondary emotions, all be it to a muted degree.
No, they are Not comparable to psychopaths, because they have emotional empathy. In my experience there are two major differences to the other types: We do not manipulate as narcissists do, because our emotional empathy still works. Manipulating would us also make us feel hurt or unstabl, just like the other person does. Instead we figure out, using cognitive empathy, how the other Person can be made feeling good and use that skill to feel good as well. In my case e.g. I figured out how a persons humour worked and could then bring up the funniest things, completely adapted to their own specific essence of humour. But in the end we recognize the other persons wish, us to develop feelings for them. And because we feel them being uncomfortable, but cannot fall in love, because we were so hurt, we suffer as well. Being a dark empath means constant self doubts and issues, more than with narcissism, but luckily we don't really hurt the other person. Hurt maybe, but definitly not traumatise.
Psychopaths have no empathy of any type...it's their defining characteristic. What makes a DE more damaging in their ability to know exactly what actions to take, and what you'll ferl as a result. A psychopath has no idea.
@@kimrobinson6285 I've heard that psychopaths *can* learn empathy, but they need to be trained to narcissists on the other hand, *cannot.* Dark empaths are usually people who have been abused and develop harmful traits, but it may not be permanent like a narcissist. So in my mind, the narcissist the the worst one. Also dealing with a narcissistic "mother' doesn't help either.
The most loving and sensitive person you know who's back after the last betrayal almost killed both him/her and his body and soul. There's no way of saying what he is today.
I'm curious if Dark Emparthy is a true personality disorder or if it is a set of behaviors that anyone can fall into when in a toxic or traumatic situation? I've definitely exhibited Dark Empathy, but it was in relationships I later found were harmful to me (Borderlines or Narcissists), and so I was in a trauma bond and survival mode. As soon as I was out of those relationships, my manipulative behavior stopped entirely. Now that I'm more aware of how to identify those behaviors in myself, as well as what triggers them (specific behaviors in other types of people), I can chose to stay out of those situations both for my own mental health and to keep myself from behaving certain ways. One could think of how humans behave in war, survival, or disaster situations. Dark behavior that actually allows for survival come out from somewhere deep inside, but it isn't WHO we are.
I'm right alongside you there. Yes on trauma and after effects. But what about when you get to "normal" life. But you still feel those strong urges. You still think those same thoughts. If anything, crave those behaviors you quit? Silently holding them inside afraid the one person you care about finds out and leaves you? Afraid of losing them because you know you'll easily fall into those behaviors that feel normal to you but you know not everyone else does feel those. Or think those thoughts. I feel like holding it inside helps keep relationships... but how do you get rid of those cravings. The need. I understand and struggle to apply... but I still have feelings
Many serial killers that are commonly referred to as being psychopaths are actually borderline. It's my belief that some are even miss diagnosed as having aspd, which is strange given that alot of the murders they commit are very emotion driven.
@@Alias_Reign It’s not a perfect system, we have social sciences making a terrible impact. We have been set back decades in the mental health areas because of wokeness. Intersectionality. None of it is real.
I love how Amanda is doing like a sports introductory speech while introducing the 4 toxic personalities, but overall this was serious and educational stuff
Narcissism is the one that I hear feared and discussed the most, and small wonder: it's rampant in our society. But the one that I've come to realize that I hate the most is PSYCHOPATHY, because it's a yardstick that I'm tired of being measured against. People with psychopathic traits have, in my observation, far too much power in all the wrong places, and yet are constantly promoted to the public as *positive* role models, even as heroes. (Especially so, to impressionable young boys like I was.) I've grown tired of the pressure to measure my maturity and my masculinity against them, and I now know that I've unconsciously avoided places, careers, and fields of influence where they hold sway, all my life. P.S. If you want a REAL example of a dark empath in fiction, just look at Palpatine "coaching" Anakin Skywalker.....
My cluster b list (from most hated to least): -psychopath/sociopath -narcissist -dark empath A psychopath/sociopath is the most dangerous. A narcissist is the most annoying, needy, childish, embarrassing, weird etc.
Psychopath: Johan Liebert, Ayanokouji, Scar from lion king. Psychopath type music: "The nowhere king" song Sociopath: Light Yagami Narcissist: Mom from Mommy dearest, Cinderella's step mom and Rapunzel's mom from Disney. Narc song: "Mine mine mine" from Pocahontas or "mother knows best" from Tangled.
I think the reason why people prays Psychopath’s is because people are always like, “emotions get in the way of everything”. If you get rid of emotion you basically create the perfect being. Sociopaths are created> they once had emotion so they can essentially turn into DEmpaths And narcissists are basically regular people who feel a little more shame, and care about themselves a little more than others.
I think I've encountered at _least_ one psychopath before in a work environment. She was extremely manipulative and used me to play games and only tolerated me as long as I/others complimented her. She used compliments too (probably heard somewhere and noticed the reactions) and then used them to manipulate others into liking her. Then, when people realized she'd been saying the same thing to everyone (literally) (things like... you are the [x] most [positive trait] person I have ever met) and she was confronted with it, she just became angry. Then lost all social interest in everyone except those she saw she could still manipulate. She would also say one thing to one person and a completely different thing to another person, like there was no connection or reason behind it. Obviously in retrospect it was *ONLY* to suit her own needs or goals or standing. She was addicted to praise and the only way to explain it is like a child given ice cream for doing one thing, and then instead of doing something else to help (i.e. the reason for getting a reward) they would only do that *EXACT* same thing like 5 days in a row to expect an ice cream again because they want an ice cream (except in this case a psychopath would want that ice cream even if it was from a dying corpse). She probably isn't the most destructive psychopath out there but definitely on the scale. 100%. Also outwardly she would seem normal, just a bit weird sometimes. Also sometimes blurted out certain things and apparently had little instinct towards non-violence and sadism. She can't have been a (pure) narcissist because she "blended in" and even though heavily egocentric and lacking of empathy, didn't display that outwardly or refused to (as stated) i.e. compliment others. Edit: Play games = basically messing / trying to mess with someone's head, apparently for fun. Control other people, be in charge of their destiny etc. Also I know how this story has certain similar traits outwardly to more normal situation but this was kinda extreme. So I know what some people may think upon first read but I've had those "normal" versions when younger and this was not it.
She is vulnerable narccissit........There are 2 types of narcissist- vulnerable and grandiose. The one mentioned in the video is grandiose. People often only have awareness of one type of narcissism.
I have worked with a psychopath (when I was younger) and a narcissist (being older). At the time they confused me and I felt vulnerable. Later I have learned to understand their traits and was able to keep my authenticity, the key to stand up to them. Dark empathy is still new to me.
No depending on how persistent or competitive the narc or psycho is the key is to get away from them completely. The second option is unfortunately to literally go to war and take out the competitive psycho or narc before he/she does something crazy or violent to you or your loved ones. And then at that point you risk jail time or other reprocusions.
@@dn8443 It's insane how you deny this persons experience in order to confirm your preconceived notion, rather than learning from what they said and adopting it into your worldview. Have you ever thought that perhaps what makes psychopaths manipulative is you telling others to literally go to war with them whenever they see them? If you lived in a society where once people learned that you're too empathetic, they would attack you for no reason other than their preconceived notion, how would you feel?
It’s new to you because it’s not real and a rather new buzz term. It’s not recognized anywhere and largely. Considered sociopathic traits and cognitive empathy.
The dark empath seems like the worst in my opinion because they understand what you feel better than any of the other personalities and they use it against you.
As I already wrote under a comment, ALL of them *know* (using study or adding "intuition") what you're feeling... but they don't *feel* it inside them (no real empathy), so they don't care about your feelings and they can use them to get what they want (what they want sometimes is to destroy you). Sociopaths and psychopaths add very often an attraction to the worst and most illegal actions a human being can do, just using others to reach a goal is not enough. Anyway the video may lead people to "overlook" narcissists, but *I met both narcissists and sadists* who watched videos of tortures (probably psychopaths or dark empaths or, don't know, maybe sociopaths), and I found narcissists more dangerous on a long-term cos they can make you their toy for 5-10-50 years (while they still can become a positive part of society if they work on themself in a psychotherapic path). With narcissists there are no huge explosions but instead it's a wreckage, it's a yo-yo cos after they destroyed you emotionally they start to make you feel special again, their best friend and a precious human being. The video doesn't reach this channel standards, doesn't look so accurate and clear.
Narcissism. 100%. Not being manipulated isn't all that hard with the proper lifestyle changes and knowledge. Narcissists are just overall a pain in the ass to just spend time around in general. They're so full of themselves i'd rather be in a relationship with dark empath that understands me enough to have a conversation with where we can compromise than someone so full of themselves as a narcissists tend to be.
DE or N? It’s basically a would you rather, Someone who understands you [otherwise normal] but are full of themselves. Narcissist Or Someone who understands how you feel, but doesn’t feel themselves. > DEmpath Another way of saying it could be: Someone who shows their nature > verbally/physically [not towards you] Or Someone who doesn’t show [hides] their nature > [fake it] may have emotion.
Remember though, having a god complex make you a Narcissist. It’s a disorder, not a personality trait. Not all Narcicissts are bad people. And since they only make up 1% of the population of convinced that most of the “Narcs” you’ve met were just egotistical jerks. (And don’t you dare “what’s the difference” me 😭)
This is scary. I'm a teacher and once i have a student that shows absolutely no empathy for anyone. We didn't know what to do with him. His behavior was violent and we could only keep an eye on him during recess.
@@monk4ever That's like saying you can teach a deaf person to hear. Not only is it complete nonsense, it also misses an opportunity. People with low or no empathy need alternative motivations to do good. We teach children with most disabilities how to operate in the world, but nobody wants to accept that some children need to be taught explicitly how to function without empathy.
@@monk4ever You can't teach empathy. You can't just change how a person views the world just by "teaching" them. Empathy isn't just like math or science that can be taught in that sense, it's pretty much basic human morals, and you can't teach that. And even IF the kid can be changed a teacher wouldn't be in that field of profession to actually be able to help him. Whatever the kid does whether it is therapy or what, the decision is all on the guardian. The teachers simply don't know what to do because they have no power over the kid's life.
I have a friend that is a diagnosed sociopath and I just wanted to let you all know that she is still a human and can feel certain emotions, she just has trouble showing them. She is a truly kind and caring person even though she is still discovering emotions. Please don't judge sociopaths as they are still human.
all theese sociopatha dark empath... sound relly bad but that doesent mean they are a bad person the bad part only comes out in the cases when its forsed by pain in most cases
I normally enjoy you're videos. I have faced abuse and dealt with almost all of these personalities in varying degrees and I can agree with most of what you said when applied to specific people. This generalizes people suffering from mental health issues and characterizes them as these automatic villains. And trust me, I know they can be, but imagine being a struggling teen or young adult diagnosed with one of these disorders and watching this video hoping for information. If anything lacks empathy, it's the way this video is constructed.
@@lilyschrodingy3600 I might slip up at times but I've personally been able to avoid labeling any person as a "villain" as I've grown in age and it's benefited my own sense of well being quite a lot
After watching this video, I realized that the dark triad traits that make up dark empathy are present in me especially when I was younger. Currently, there are still vestiges of these in me but not at the intensity as it was before, especially narcissism, and that I am not as aggressive in infringing other people anymore. After a few minutes of introspection, these 2 are the reasons I can think of that made me be: 1) I was raised in a good environment with good parents. My parents have a strict sense of right and wrong which was ingrained in me. I practice them not because I agree with them, but rather because of habit as they always compel me to follow their examples when I was younger. I got so used to it that I would do them instinctively. I would usually help other people unconditionally out of habit but I do not really care about them. I feel no emotion when I feed homeless people. I feel no emotion when I introduce jobless people to certain acquaintances to give them the opportunity of livelihood. But I try to act like I care so as to make sure these people will not feel bad and I do not want to look weird. I did not bother to change this because I have thought that it would be more beneficial in the long run if one acts good than being an asshole since things have ways of going back to you. 2) One would face more resistance if one acts villainous. Regardless of one's subtlety in his/her actions, in time, someone will notice you. There may be people that are the same or worse than you that may see you as a threat and will act against you which I see as a hassle. As I grew old(im still at my 20s tho, so not really old, lol), I have come to appreciate peace and silence. That is why it is my top priority to meld in and try not to be that visible by ensuring that I do not encroach, as much as possible, the boundaries of other people.
Having been to hell and back with a psychopath (actually, all Dark Triad traits apply to this person) I opine that the psychopath is the most dangerous. Cunning, remorseless, masterful manipulators who will do and say anything for personal gain or amusement. Very scary! One tidbit of advice- if you are with a psychopath, know that change isn’t likely and once you decide to leave, maintain ZERO contact. This is when “ghosting” is acceptable. It’s for your own safety. As far as dark empaths, this one is a bit tricky. I’d err on the side of empathy toward a dark empath. Feeling ALL THE TIME is exhausting. Being available to many can leave you drained and totally burnt out. Maybe the darkness is retaliatory to feeling overwhelmed. Hard to say…
You can actually treat him not as human. Like toxic sledge or slime of pain with bones. If its impossible to interact with them like with humans - why you even try? You dont treat your pants or shelves like humans - no need for these evil people. They no need in it in first place
I'm engaged to a Psychopath and I love him just the way he is. He is very intelligent, very honest, and I am only 1 of 2 people who truly knows who and what he is. He has actually taught me a lot when it comes to my ways of thinking.
I'm a dark empath, and you're close there. It really *is* exhausting to be available to everyone, to feel what they're feeling, especially if they are feeling a lot of sad emotions. I don't know about other dark empaths, but I've anyways had a tendency to not trust people easily- it's simply hard to trust someone when you can see the worst sides of someone. However, any malice of mine has been given to people I consider to deserve it. Liars, hypocrites, generally other people who cause harm to others intentionally. And for the people who are my friends, I try to help them with any situations I can. The best advice I can give is to just be nice to one (if you somehow realize you're talking to one), and that should be a given. (You should in general be nice to everyone you meet, until you have a reason not to.) Aside from that... well. Nothing really. Have a good day.
All psychopaths are narcissists, and they tend to be worse narcissists because the empathy deficits are even more profound. Dark empathy is made up, its a make-believe rebranding of traditional narcissism and there are no identifiable differences. This video was just comparing 3 narcissists with eachother, a psychopathic narcissist, a narcissist, and a narcissist (but given another name to trip you up). Overall a shit video
As someone with diagnosed personality disorder (don't want to specify), I can say that the easiest thing is to be aware of what am I capable of and understand that positive feelings of others can and are positive for me too. Most harmful things I've done weren't because I wanted it on purpose, it was just natural thing to do. I don't want to be harmed, I have to know, to not to harm others.
The most dangerous is the person who goes around diagnosing everyone they meet with some sort of extreme personality disorder. At least the others can get treatment and not make their issues other people's problem.
🙏💖 A lot of times, one or more of these will overlap in the same person. It's not always so easy to put people in one box or another, and our perspective of someone else's personality can be skewed by our relationship to them and how/if they abuse us. IMHO, the most dangerous one is the one that you happen to meet that chooses you as their next victim. Set boundaries and keep them. It's amazing how a kind, simple "No" to a Toxic person will reveal their true nature. Protect yourself once you know, and then put them in a box if you feel the need; however, boundaries and protection should come first. No one has a right to mistreat you. Period. Peace and safety to all...
Yeah they certainly win out on manipulative damage. I still think psychopath because they're the most likely to commit violent crimes, say robbing a store simply because they feel they want the money and have no regard for anyone who tries to stand in the way
It could be argued a Dark Empath is merely an empath who has had enough of being used and taken advantage of. Being an empath they can access their innate abilities to defend and deflect.
Yeah, then Intense abuse of all sorts happen and they just use that as an excuse. Where, people have definitely been mistreated more than they have and aren't hurtful manipulators.
Any of these personality types are only harmful if they actually cause harm, and I can tell you from personal experience that any harm caused is either unintentional (as in you didn't consider how much the other person would be hurt because it came so naturally to treat them the way you treated them) or intentional. But you can also choose to intentionally NOT harm people, and even to help them instead. It's not easy, but you can actually do a LOT of good when you decide to, you don't get the same rush of pleasant feelings I'm assuming "normal" people get but you can still get a lot of satisfaction out of it. You can't always decide how your brain is going to handle things, but you can decide how YOU handle things, and imo there's no greater power move than totally subverting your brain chemistry to be whoever the hell you want regardless. TL;DR: it's reductive to call any of these personality types harmful. They just are. People still get to decide how they act.
right. that's part of my thoughts on this too... it comes down to personal responsibility and whether or not the person in question actually takes responsibility for himself. as mentioned in this video characteristics like these are symptomatic of internal wounding or trauma, and like physical injuries they CAN be treated and fully resolved. in light of this, in my mind it's better to view these as only transitory phases that will be overcome once the individual in question chooses to take responsibility for himself and pursue self-improvement and the resolution of psychological traumas. a person will be one of these character types only as long as he wants to be, and if he really sees that how he behaves hurts others he will consciously choose to change through self-improvement. the acceptance of personal responsibility for one's behavior towards others is key in helping him overcome his shortcomings. they will improve if treated with love and compassion, though it may take a long time to see a change. after all, they didn't get that way over night, and to think they will change after a day or two is shortsighted. treating them with love, kindness and patience is the best route to take simply because that is what they have been lacking for most of their lives.
Total B/S evil is evil is evil is evil. And a psychopath is a psychopath they may learn not to do evil but they are still evil. No risk - no problem - guaranteed.
As a very empathic person, my biggest fear and struggle is to harm someone by being a dark empath and not knowing I am. It's like fearing to unleash a monster inside you and you don't know if the monster already escaped or you turned into it.
I'm not sure but I think I have dark empath but I'm not using so much occasionally happens when I'm not in a good mood in this periods happen to use the people around me or try to make people to see they need to change this happens only for people I'm more curious and I every time happened to become angry or I feel very tired I try to make sure no one can see ://
You seem to like people in this crazy world, don't you, extrovert? I am an Introvert, the monster in me listen to my commands and activates only when my classmates annoy me.
I'd argue if you're afraid of it, then you aren't it. If you were, you would already be relishing in it and not worry so much about things. When it comes to empathy, one thing strong empaths fear is hurting others, because hurting someone you care about is tantamount to hurting yourself. If you had these traits to begin with, you wouldn't 'be' afraid of hurting anyone from it, because you wouldn't be feeling anything towards them. It's more about the cognitive aspect and being able to recognise it in others, while feeling absolutely nothing. It's the lack of feeling anything that allows to freely manipulate others, because they don't care if it hurts the person in the long run.
you will know it i am a dark empath that doesent mean i am a bad person but like i am aware of my self of everything i do and how someone might feel dont worry too much i am only ackting like that when things get bad or relly toxic in a way .the point is you will prob know when youre hurtig someone but be aware at all times of everything:3 sorry for bad english hope it helped
Dark empath here and I can say we are very aware of your feelings and others we can sense your emotions and play them against you we enjoy it we don't hurt you for no reason though there's always a reason why we do what we do and we don't have any regrets about it either. But on the other hand we can be loving and forgiving we will do anything for the people we love or like, we ain't bad we just have dark moments.
I HAVE SEEN A DARK EMPATH REVEAL HIMSELF… and it is SO SCARY. I moved across county in the US to work with a guy who I thought was a close friend. He basically slit my throat and has been trying to bury me for the last month since I left the company because I have been speaking up about abusive work practices in the financial services and venture capital industries w.r.t. who actually does the work that provides value to the company. Recent layoffs (like at Coinbase) are not humane!
I'm guessing the throat-slitting and burying was metaphorical, I'm still curious about how their behavior adjusts to "dark empathy" or to any other personality disorder (being selfish or callous isn't - by itself - the only valid criteria for diagnosis).
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The plight of the dark empath is being a trusted confidant of many, but having few, if anyone they’d willingly trust with their heart. Seems like a recipe to possibly either die alone, unhappy, or unhappy and alone.
Dark empath wins. Yes I know one, and they can convince someone to help them utterly crush you while simultaneously making that person believe that they are doing the kindest, most helpful thing in the world for you, while also systematically destroying your relationships with everyone you counted on.
Empathy really feels like that: Looking at people and knowing, what buttons to push for which result. It can be used for good. Often I use it to make people understand their own flaws, so that they can succeed. If you uplift your surroundings, you uplift yourself. Always fun to see the right people gaining self esteem.
Dark empathy is totally a thing! Before I had even heard the term I was describing someone I know very well as a dark empath just based on abilities and how that person used the abilities, saying, “she’s an empath, but in a dark way…I would call her a dark empath.” I’m grateful this is being studied because those of us who have to have frequent contact with this personality type need to know what we’re dealing with!
i am one of them i agree there are bad ppl but me personally im kind good hearted and shi like that im an amazing friend but as soon as someone hurts me i usually firts pile it up then give back all the emotional pain they caused me just i do it in my way thats a bad way tbh but if youre good to me ill be amazing to you too . like i dont cause pain bc of an argumen or disagreement or like a cuss insult etc only if it continues for a longer period of time and i cant ignore it anymore hope that my helped to understand myb idk
There is two mental conditions. One is kill for pleasure. The other is pleasure to kill the killer. Both of them are possessed of spirits of totally different polarities. Both of them cause harm, but the Universe need balance. Triggering an emphat is the karma on psychopath.
Ultimately it seems like way too often people’s darkness is unaddressed wounds and as such mental illnesses are coping mechanisms to dysfunctional environments. As such perhaps someone understanding this will help them to understand and love themselves without the guilt, pain and shame that certain dynamics put them through. I wish the best to everyone.
This is a really interesting video with an intriguing question - "who is more dangerous?" (out of these four). I have some thoughts... The problem with this question is that it doesn't give enough consideration to the recipient(s) i.e. the potential victims of the behaviour. I think in reality, the response to the question "who is more dangerous" depends on the unique individual on the other end of it. Everyone has certain 'landing strips' and vulnerabilities that can be picked up on even subconsciously by a potential abuser. An individual's own unique behaviour, attachment style, thought processes, experiences, insecurities etc, play a significant part in the dynamic that ends up emerging in their relationships: Person A could have a disposition leaving them particularly vulnerable to narcissistic abuse, while Person B could be resilient to narcissistic abuse. Just as the personality types in question are (potentially) dangerous for different reasons, the type of people vulnerable to them are so because of particular traits. Additionally, it depends on how/if these personality types are enabled, (by society, system failures, and typically by other people, whether intentional/malicious or not). It's a very interesting question nonetheless, but I think it's much more complex than simply comparing these personality types directly with each other. It's still very useful though to understand the differences between them, because then you can educate and equip yourself to build resilience to these types where required. I think it's less about "these people are inherently dangerous" and more about "who do these people pose a risk to and why/how?". Furthermore, I must add that the visual depictions of these people in the art/animation of this video are maybe a bit misguided / one-dimensional? E.g. the psychopath with blood on them. And as I wrote that last sentence I realized another important thing to consider - the implications of specific language e.g. the difference between referring to someone as "a sociopath" vs as "someone with antisocial personality disorder". The former encouraging solely judgement; the latter encouraging curiousity and understanding. PS as someone who has experienced an awful lot of narcissistic abuse, I've come to learn through therapy and self-reflection the 'landing strips' I have which attracted such people. Please don't misunderstand this as victim blaming - it's not. There's a clear difference between fault and responsibility. It's never a victim's fault for having been subjected to abuse, but it it their responsibility to heal themselves afterwords, which yeah, sucks and is unfair. But it's still a good thing too, because that means it's within their control. PPS a silly question for all the weebs out there... Which one do you think Light Yagami is and why? Also, if Light didn't ever get the Death Note, why/how/to whom would he have been a danger to?
@@jennisestreaty1928 yeah, I thought so too. Cos his traits are more disguised rather than external (like in the case of someone with antisocial personality disorder)
@@eilishbaird947 yeah i always thought he was either a psychopath or a sociopath, then i realized that i am a sociopath and we don't hide our true nature like Light Yagami does. So he must be a psychopath
I'm no sociopath, but I find it hard to have any sort of regard for others, and I just do destructive stuff without regrets or thinking of how other people will worry about me. It's not something I'm proud of.
Had never heard of the term dark empath - however, I can think of a couple people that fit that description. They have definitely used the phrase "I'm an empath", but I never understood how they could think they are.... Now it makes sense
I may be a dark empath. What I can tell you is I used to be "good empath", but over the years, because a lot of delusions with most every human I started to gather a hate towards humans and then now most contacts I have has "this vengeance/despise" feeling, so I may hurt people, know where it hurts the most to anyone and feel pleasure because I feel like having my personal vendetta against everyone because I despise humans. So... dark empaths are misanthropic empaths. But I LOVEEEE animals though
Generalizing how you think people treat you stops you from finding connections with anyone at all. There are other weirdos out there who would get you.
Sadly all 4 of these personalities can cause a person pain and can cause a person to have so much pain they committ suicide. Just horrible! Pay attention to the red flags, if they are not consistent,or love bomb you and ghost you and discard you,they are definitely toxic people. Sadly we find out when it's too late and we invested alot of time into that person. Pay attention if they lack empathy and are anti social.
i also take exception to your labeling of anti social as part of the dark triad, introverts are not evil, some people are socially awkward and uncomfortable in groups. But they can also be the most loyal, selfless and caring people out there.
to the two of you who replied anti-social doesn't mean introverted. anti-social basically means or can mean anti society or someone who goes against basic societal norms and laws because they don't care. If you want a better explanation a quick search will show a lot of stuff about if you're interested
It's so hard to spot them. A narcissist can hide well as the psychopath and dark empath. You have to know a Person for a long time to understand that he/She can be Dangerous, but when you'll understand it, it will be probably already too late
When you have been confronted to them several times, you know how to recognize them faster. And if you read and so research about them, you will know exactly what to look at when you meet someone .
@@liliai9559 I realize now I've confronted at least 4 narcissist friends (people I cared)in the past and that at the end left me in aggressive ways as a reaction when I had interrupted their love supply. I didn't realize they were narcissists then, but I understand it now and their reaction makes sense. Today I'm dealing with another one, I was suffering because I couldn't figure out why she was a hypocrite but today I realize that she is a narcissist. We had other fights in the past and the results have always been her vomiting on me all the worst things possible because I dared telling her that some behaviors were off. Now after long years made of ghosting and sudden love bombing I decided to start my no contact treatment last week in response of her ghosting or fake love bombing. I ask myself why I always attract narcissist people🤔. Maybe I am too empatihic. They always told me that I'm a good person and a great listener. Now I realize they were saying between the lines that I'm a perfect victim for a narcissist... Anyway she will realize that I spotted her eventually. But not soon. She will throw on me again every negative thing possible, giving me every fault for a destroyed friendship. I have it coming. Wish me luck 🤞🍀
@@JJShalashaska hope everything will be fine for you. They analysed very well our personality. So you're probably very empathic and not loving yourself enough. You said that person told you very though things and yet you let her come back... don't let anyone talk to you that way or make you lose your temper a lot. Learn to give yourself the attention , love and respect you used to give them. And be careful , dont try to treat them bad for revenge, they ll always can do worse to you cause they got no limits.
@@liliai9559 I guess you're right and I'm trying to do my best for myself. I just can't manage to be unpolite to people and I'm sorry if they suffer, even if they're shit people. Anyway, I just hope she'll forget about... I'm almost sure she will. I don't want to block her because she could see it as an aggression and that could cause her to avenge, trying to damage me. So I'll just keep being silent 🤗🌈
It is important to know that people of these categories arent necessarily bad people because of their characteristics. Its more on the lines of if they think they will benefit they will do it not caring about other peoples losses. What opportunity one deems positive is purely reliant on the rest of their personality and their intelligence. For example one might be a dark empath but still not do immoral things because they fear repercussion. Only if the benefits outweigh the negatives one their own scale (the fulcrum might be far on either side) they will act.
We become what we allow ourselves to become. Don't allow yourself to be labelled instead identifying unfavourable personality traits and eliminate them and become the person that lives a more successful life.
@@noOnionswithoutTears If I have upset you I did not mean to and I understand fully the impact these personality types can have on us but I refuse to allow hurtful people to hurt me anymore and they have no more power over me because I wont let them.
Not ma being a Dark Empath. Well i can honestly say that what they tell is true. When you are one, you will see how people feel, be a master at reading people and how to react and adapt to every problem perfectly. You have hundreds of Masks. And when people suffer, you know how they feel but you won't be able to feel their pain. It's like you're immune to the emotions of others and the only way, to find out how someone feels is by reading their Body language and facial expressions, you're gonna be good at that, dangerously good :) (By the way i'm not an native speaker so sorry for mistakes)
Well, all I know is I'm empathetic but I get something out of hearing people's painful experiences especially if I see them as close (whether they see me that way or not). I'm really sure what it is tho or how to describe it.
this statement makes you sound like somebody with schizoid personality disorder. to see everyone as a threat is unhealthy, too. i used to be that way and now i’ve found two friends who i think i can trust with my life, and who make me see the world as beautiful. if i had given up i would not have found them.
If you don't even let darkness in, how is the light supposed to reach you? The best course of action is to be careful of those types of people, and once you learn how to spot them to avoid them, you can have close friends and/or a lover that you know aren't toxic. The chance is never 0 that they are actually toxic, but it's low.
@keeptaiwanfree no it's not at all, it's more to do with having met too many people who were not good for me. As time has gone on, I have started to learn more about myself, my needs and boundaries. That is helping me to move forward. Labelling people doesn't help but being curious and asking why someone has those thoughts is much better. I know you meant well and I appreciate that. Thank you.
my ex friend (who i am using neutral pronouns for, and withholding their name or any personal details) was a narcissist, constantly critiquing others, feeding off of praise, acting all high and mighty, thinking themselves as the best and if you didn't agree, they'd make sure EVERYONE knew that you were weak and not deserving of praise, attention, and help, among other things. Even worse, they didn't show it at the start. They acted 'normal' and all my teachers said they were the best, and they got the 'good citizen' award. Once they became part of my friend group, they started using me and the rest of my friends, getting praise from us, getting gossip or info from us, (and then later used that to bring others down) but they also introduced me to other people i wouldn't of usually talked to. Then, my sister and I started noticing their narcissistic traits, and decided to break it off. Whenever my sister tried to talk to them about breaking it off and leaving the friend group, they would try to switch the conversation around, or physically walked away. One day, they told us that they were kicking us out of the group, and started telling our BEST FRIENDS (who we have known for YEARS) how toxic we were to the group, how my sister was antisocial and how I always talked about my condition (I have a chronic illness called Systemic Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis, and because of the treatments and pain, I now have PTSD) and my friends believed it. We couldn't talk back and explain how they were a narc, (narcissist, just to save time) because they physically stopped us from talking to our friends, restraining us back and just getting our friends to walk away. Eventually, we were able to talk, and started an argument. I was yelling and screaming at them, telling my friends that they were a narc and THEY were the toxic one. My friends almost believed it, when the narc said that i was being overly emotional, and then they walked away, and my friends followed. Eventually, after a few months, my friends FINALLY believed my sister and I, (kinda) and got back together with us. (it helped that we went into high school, and the narc was going to a different school) my friends are still friends with the narc, and still bring them up in conversation sometimes, but then move the conversation along to something else. They still don't know that the narc is a narc, and i think it's pointless to try and convince them. (If any of my friends are reading this, hi, I told you so.)
Sorry to hear you had to go through all that. Definitely sounds stressful. I feel like because you and your sister had each other made the whole situation a little bit easier to handle. Idk I could be wrong
sure, having my sister helped, but it also kind of made it worse, as things that the narc did to my sister, i felt too, and vice versa. if the narc said i wasn't allowed to do something, my sister was not able to either, and vice versa.
it was in grade school, in 7th grade. but even because it was in grade school, it didn't make it any better. in high school, you can just not talk to the person, and not a lot of people would care. you also have many different classes where you might not see the person. in grade school, you gotta spend recess with them, every single class with them, etc.
ADDRESSED TO PSYCH2GO: Before watching the video: That thumbnail and title worried me so I clicked the video and went straight to the comments to check for updates. I have been actively learning about the different stigmas attached to those with certain personality traits or personality disorders. After watching the video: Was there a better way to present this information? This "contest" and "ranking" bothers me. Also based on the comments, I think it doesn't hurt to add more in video disclaimers about how these disorders are rare, how young people in general struggle with empathy because the prefrontal cortex is not fully developed which helps people control their impulses, which is why these diagnoses often happen in adulthood unless someone has committed a crime. I myself have dealt with and will likely continue to interact with all types of people with a variety of personalities, including people with personality disorders. I do not believe that anyone can be considered more dangerous than the other because it depends on who the victim is. For example, if you know that those with narcissistic personality disorder crave attention, especially negative attention because it feeds their ego to know they have power over someone, when they wrong you, you can use this knowledge to feel empowered to ignore them and dismiss them, so they can't feed off your energy.
Also, they're personality disorders, not pokemon cards, no two psychopaths are the same because that's not the only thing about them. You wouldn't say all schizophrenic people are dangerous or that all of them hate their hallucinations/delusions because there's more to them tban that.
Finally, after reading through so many threads full of people stroking their egos I finally find an intelligent and rational comment... (and the is coming from a narcissistic, sociopathic, psychopathic, antisocial dark empath who uses my cool mysterious powers for good when I'm not destroying my enemies with my dangerous machiavellian genius mind) you should feel special and honored to receive such praise from someone as special and unique as I am... lmfao! 🤣 JK, seriously though, these people need to get out of the house and take a walk through the park or something. Everyone is so full of themselves nowadays, including myself to be totally honest. But it is truly refreshing to find such a down to earth, and logical prospective among such "special" people. May I ask what your profession is?
Here I thought I was crazy. That I can understand, but not feel someone else's emotions. Just hearing that's a real thing, manipulative motives of the dark empath aside, that's pretty revelatory for me.
I’m happy we have the dark empath term now. I feel like being empathic is super painful and some of them kind of evolve this psychopath type shell to stay safe. And for the longest time I didn’t really know what to call that.
In case you were curious how this works no we are essentially physocpaths with empathy. We may break the law under the radar or manipulate but you don’t turn into a dark empath in adulthood it happens from childhood trauma and neglect. However we learned the importance of things like taking care of our friends however the problem is damn near ever single day to day interaction is manipulative. Like not a single interaction isn’t some subconscious manipulation. So there’s that.
There are always options to progress into a positive personality version. Its done by facing the trauma and learning to manage the unconscious bubbling thought processes and identify which of those thoughts and reactions come from those previous social conditioning programmes 'that were not yours by choice' ,and eventually delete the importance by ignoring them and allowing them to fade. Being hurt by people earlier in life, even parents or lovers, including sexual abuse or worse, is no excuse to continue the abuse cycle. Its done by making a code of morals that suit what you would rather be and working towards it over many years.. Otherwise the behaviour is just reactive and self serving. That will always leave an empty void and will reap exactly what is sown over time..
I'm proud that you're away from them and hope you have a blast without thrm and if you do want revenge, I hope you succeed and it never affects yiu negatively!
people confuse empathy and sympathy. Empathy is rare and is kind of comprehension that does not rely on something consciously observable. Sympathy is feeling with. You can be sympathetic without being empathic. Most people are like that, they project themselves onto other people without understanding.
I didn’t really know of dark empaths until watching this video, and yet it makes sense that they’d exist, since light always casts shadow, and thus shadow always contrasts light. For each thing that exists, an equal and opposite also exists. 👥 That alone is food for thought, and a useful thing for any highly sensitive person to know. I’m grateful in having a strong sense of empathy for others; what they feel, I feel, and the thought of intentionally hurting others for my own personal gain is too gut-churning to even contemplate… 😰 I guess this makes me the “good” kind of empath, huh? I want what’s best for everyone, including myself, and I’m all for meeting my own needs, as long as no-one is harmed in any way, and for sharing with those who have less, especially if there’s plenty to spare. 😊
@@EMichaelBall I’m more of an ambivert (MBTI tests almost always say either INFJ or ENFP, though sometimes ENFJ or INFP), but for a while I believed myself to be an introvert; it’s been a long road to realising I’m at my best when interacting with others and helping them to be at their best too. Friendship, teamwork, and community are where it’s at, and that alone makes it all worthwhile. 😄
Love the comment section!!! Definitely think it depends on experience & there is no such thing as “more dangerous” than one or the other like some viewers explained in their comments.
After my marriage fell apart, the marriage counselor (who had diagnosed my ex husband and couldn’t tell me due to privacy reasons) handed me a book and told me to read it because it might explain a lot for me. The title of that book was The Sociopath Next Door. He was a horrible person and ruined me for relationships for probably the rest of my life. He goes through people’s lives like a wrecking ball. I really thought his mission was to kill my actual soul. He was not physically violent but what he did to my mind, spirit and financial existence, I will probably never fully get over. So to me, the answer is Sociopath.
The Dark Empath always has control because it’s in your subconscious, and when you “show” emotion, you’re just making yourself seem like you’re feeling that emotion to get the outcome you desire. Sometimes knowingly, sometimes not. It’s like having the good part of you driving the car, but the dark part has the GPS. And it’s not that you can’t feel, it’s that you don’t feel naturally, most of the time you have to force emotions out of yourself, usually around other people to benefit you in someway. In between interactions is where all you do is battle between your thoughts and actions because, most of the time you’re not aware when the dark part is in control until reflecting back on it later in the day.
Dark empathy, is an example of someone being extremely good at understanding social cues and intentions. They have got to the root of how they’re own brain works and came to be wired the way it is and thus, they use this information to accurately create emotions in others beneficial to their own cause. The main difference between this and a sociopath though is the idea that the dark empath knows what they want and display all characteristics of a normal person with good qualities and genuine intentions. Whether this is a lie or an aspect of self loathing is truly what makes the person dangerous. As, if someone can convince you they are good people without the external flags of a sociopath, they are more likely to succeed in keeping you oblivious of their intentions while simultaneously engaging in morally wrong behavior.
How about option 5: the parental figures or sources of developmental trauma of all of these that keep cranking out maladapted adults who only know how to manipulate others to get their basic needs met? I'd like to nominate that one as the most dangerous.
I feel like the "paternal figure" isn't the the danger in and of itself. Because most bad parents probably either have one of these or simply believe that the best will come of it. When a fire starts, it is because all the nessisary things were put in place. Sometimes the fire is started by other fire, but it is just as often started by mundane things that went toogether in just the wrong way.
I was friends with a girl who was like a mix of a psychopath, narcissist, and a Dark Epath. She also has this creepy thing where she likes every guy she sees and she takes pics of them without their knowledge. I was walking with her own day and she cut me off, whipped out her homeland took a picture of a college guy. This was when we were 12. Not to mention the fact she lied to me about very personal things that affected the way I acted and caused my friends to leave me and flock to her, once she started spreading rumors.
Why do I doubt this story? Wasn't it YOU that had no confidence? Wasn't it SHE that had confidence and you were jealous of that? I rather think it was the case. Get some help.
@@rogerrabbito4517 Interesting you take that viewpoint. But this story wasn't about confidence. It was about how someone's actions affected this person's life. Don't insult someone if you don't know the full story.
I've always held that in these cases, the narcissist is the least capable of harm, as they're inherently defensive. This makes them less capable of using their powers offensively and instead makes them shackled to protecting their self-image. The others can more effectively use their condition as a weapon to manipulate others, in conscious and calculated ways, while a narcissist will often be bound by their own need to protect their self-image.
I think narcissists can go great lengths(do anything) to protect their Social status and self image. Most Narcissists also don't Possess mental faculties and Information intake of the other three making them relatively stupid and Stupidity is dangerous. So, the order goes like this: 1. Psychopaths 2. Dark Empath 3. Narcissists 4. Sociopaths
The narcissist can cause people to committ suicide it's been a proven fact,their manipulating and mind games are the worst and some do use physical harm,they can be physically and mentally and emotionally and verbally abusive. These people are just as damaging and can do great damage and literally destroy people's lives.
I feel like I’m between a psychopath and a dark empath. I can have the emotions needed for the time being to connect with a person and have them listen to me. I tend to be more dry emotionally but I know exactly how someone is feeling because I’ve been through the same thing. Sometimes when I feel like I’m actually being evil, it’s like I know how they feel because I’ve felt it, I know what made me better during that thought, so I tell them that. It feels evil to me because I’m not actually having their emotion, I just can fake it from previous experience in that situation. I get them vulnerable when I’m not fully sharing the same emotion. I know that in that time I could say some horrible things that could ruin their lives and traumatize them. I always choose not to. But I guess it’s weird for me that it has to be a conscious decision to be a decent human. It seems so easy to everyone else.
i think “dark empathy” comes from living with emotionally unstable/manipulative caregivers during childhood. You are forced to interpret the mood of the unstable parent daily, and can never truly unwind and feel safe. Your emotions get used against you by those parents and so you lock them up inside. You understand people fine but you dont allow yourself to feel.
wow that's awesome explanation, thanks 💜
im a dark empath and have all the symptoms and what u said is correct and also lacking things, i had a very bad childhood which im not gonna explain and i also do believe it is genetic as well. my father has aspd and is a sociopath and so it might have something to state why i am prob a dark empath.
That's true I realized I have some sociopath behavior. And I was raised by an unstable parent. With a narcissist aunt that controls my mom if she needs to.. I can't blame my aunt since she has some trauma and she is mostly the favorite since childhood.
@@gahlamers4485 same
Me 😩
When it comes to personality disorders, it isn't a pissing contest. The one who is most dangerous is the one who hurts you the most.
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Wow powerful
I used to have a friend that had all of the traits, they hated everyone except this one girl.
Those types of people are inspiring ro me and they will have my back in a battlefield!
It’s disgusting that people plan to hurt people and enjoy watching pain.
The dark empath is the most dangerous, as they know what you are feeling, so easier for them to manipulate you
Are narcissist liars ? 🤔
@@Imom4Him Yes.
So basically a psychopath if they cared enough lol.
damn right I do.
Not only that, but they can also use your good nature against you and take advantage of it.
Dark empathy is being self-aware of personal malice and choosing when to use it for personal gain or entertainment, and when to "dial-down" when it is more beneficial or convenient.
Psychopaths, sociopaths, and narcissists are either really bad at hiding their nature or they simply don't bother to, but these disorders will stick out like sore thumbs.
Meanwhile, dark empathy has an "on/off" switch and does a good job recognizing and calculating risks and consequences of antisocial behavior.
Wdym? Psychopaths are masters at fully masking their disorder and making it seem like they're a completely normal person.
I shouldn’t go too much on what any psychiatrists say I was in the hospital vomiting blood and having heart attacks and got diagnosis of bi polar and paranoid and delusional yet the evidence of how sick I was they recorded in blood tests and ECG’s they never test for any chemical imbalance nor do any brain scans they can apparently diagnose mental issues by asking 5 questions and ignoring all your health issues and proper tests! You’ll know yourself h whether she’s a sociopath or not because they don’t feel emotions as we do they are intrinsically selfish people who use and abuse others psychopaths will take it one step further and actually harm people and feel pleasure from doing it!
touché 👍
fewer words but you describe it far better than this video, lol
I believe I am apart of the dark empathy category. My empathy has a very deliberate switch
I think most people fall under the "dark empath" category. The workplace is full of them. The world is full of them.
Fun fact: Psycopaths can also have a very high cognitive empathy, feel like a psychopath crossed with a dark empath is quite the sleep paralysis demon.
The huge difference comes down to their sense of self in my opinion
Dark empaths are aware of who they are
But psychopaths have referred themselves as being just atoms occupying space
Psychopaths by nature have no empathy
So they can’t be dark ‘empaths’
Different breed
@@jjb._0686 how would u even know?
@@theallnighterguy watch interviews with psychopaths who have undergone therapy , (to make them self conscious)
@@jjb._0686 why?
Narcissism is actually fueled by deep shame, a shame that the narcissist feels but can't acknowledge. Their entire personality is built up as a defense against this shame, which, since they can't acknowledge it, they can't deal with it or process it either.
This is why the narcissist's whole personality revolves around a) defending themselves against feelings of shame, by self-aggrandizement, and b) shaming others, weaponizing that which has caused them so much damage. Ironically, both of these behaviors are shameful, resulting in a downward spiral of repression, defense and shame which it is nearly impossible for the narcissist to break free from.
Narcissists are people who have been deeply damaged by their own actions. Although they can never acknowledge it, they feel their shame deeply, and all of the narcissistic traits are comitted to ensuring that the narcissist never has to confront it, instead weaponizing it as bullying and gaslighting.
Narcissists are the weakest people I've met. Say one negative thing about them, and they lose control.
Cap
THE DARK EMPATHS ARE NOT MEDICAL CONDITION AS ALL THE REST ❗❗❗
WHERE DID THEY FIND THOSE TOTAL CRAP THINGS ON THIS VIDEO, THEY MAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR DARK MIND❗❗❗
S H A M E ON THEM AND TO THE CREATORS OF THIS CRAP VIDEO❗❗❗
GO CHECK THEMSELVES,
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You just summed up the narcissist I interact with the most in my family
And we should care how ? They deserve only to be neutered and locked far away from society. They're insanely dangerous and do too much harm.
“There is simply no winning with a narcissist. He will treat you so horribly that you will become withdrawn and depressed and then he will turn around and say, ‘You’re no fun anymore, you’re always so depressed. I need to be with someone more positive.’” - Susan Williams
Smell like odin in god of war ragnarok
😂😂OMG!!! Those words you’re not fun to be around. I need to be around someone more positive is hilariously true😣🤦🏽♀️
Or she
Omg... You're describing someone that, finally, caught on to YOUR emotional vampirism!
Get some help ...
You desperately,need it.
You still can smash his/her face
As someone else said on another comparison video I saw, “the worst one is whichever one you’re having to deal with at the moment”.
Being raised by a Narcissist is a hassle at the best of times, and outright cruel at the worst. And each and every one of the dark traits is extremely dangerous in their own way, in my opinion, there is no winner. But thank you guys for the channel, I learned a lot about myself!
I can confirm that being raised by a narcissist is a hassle. She thought she was capital g god
Same here! I hate the issues he left me with, but at the same time he’s my dad, and I know he loves me. I feel so bad that sometimes I hate him.
I wish i was abused by a narcissist. I got abused by a psychopath instead...lets just say i'm ready to die
@@bigmanwildin2216 im so sorry :(( do you wanna talk about it?
i hope everyone in here is doing okay, and if you're not, you can vent here
As a person with ASD, cognitive empathy is something I've had to learn.
It's sad to see it portrayed negatively.
I feel you on this.
The word neurology uses as empathy mean a different thing than the psicology term. Just a different set of things. ADHD and Autistic people don't have the psychological lack empathy, we have the neurologic one.
@@acabral2651 I'd say there's less there physiologically to support the construction of empathic neurological patterns, but not an absolute lack.
Otherwise we'd all be physiological psychopaths.
It's negative if you use said cognitive empathy to manipulate others. It's not negative if you don't do that.
I have schizophrenia and can not detect the true intent nor the type of person others are. This is portrayed as negative also. However, I feel I have worked around the issue. I avoid everyone in order to avoid becoming a victim to social predators. I know this sounds the opposite of what people with my two conditions do. Usually schizophrenics that can not detect the emotions of others, nor their true intent, are the ones attacking the other people. However, I am peaceful and wish no malevolence on others.
For anyone wondering, dark empath is not a disorder nor a symptom. It’s a set of traits featuring Psychopathic, Machiavellian and narcissistic traits.
Recently, I've read that Sadism has been added to this list, making the Dark Tetrad a defining characteristic. I know that the DE I was involved with for eight years was incredibly sadistic.
It doesn't exist.
@@tungstenanderson5991 fr it’s way too vague to be it’s own thing.
So basically psychopathy is the worst thing. As expected.
So, a syndrome? (In the sense of: "A collection of symptoms.")
I dated a dark empath, she was a very broken person, and would rather drag me down with her, into her hole of despair, than see me happy. Extremely controlling, and energy draining, its hands down the saddest and most depressed I've been my entire life. Ive experienced many hardships in life, but dating this person was by far the worst experience of my life.
She sounds like covert narcissist
I don't see the control part here. I get that you're not a rehab for broken people, but this doesn't seem like the malicious ideation physch2go explained.
@@shenron6126 Thats what a dark empath would say....
Like what the spider would say to the flies...
Sounds like a covert narcissist. You probably heard a cry for help and took two step towards the sound. Instead of coming towards you, she took two steps backwards into the darkness. You probably ended a few miles into the darkness eventually before running away.
@@EngineeringChampion nice....analogy....
Here’s the thing about being a dark empath, it feels good to make other people feel good. Once they figure that out, they can be selfish while being kind to others.
The strange thing about life is that your own selfish wishes might be beneficial to others. Especially if you are in an organization.
People who understand empathy knows burning those bridges would get you kicked out and lose everything for good reason.
After all, if you truly love yourself, why harm yourself by openly being an asshole to others without having an objective viewpoint of you and your surroundings?
For an empath that is simply foolishness and lack of awareness. It's a defence mechanism and a very effective one.
That’s the evolutionary root of all goodness
yepp, specially when you are mature enough to understand that making people feeling bad will bite your ass
You dont have to be a kind hearted person, morality can be logical, nowadays everyone can and will talk about you and your actions so being a jerk can and will have unforseen consequences that you, as a dark empath, wont be able to predict, so its easier and more rentable to be a good person all the time
Seriously, psycopaths and dark empaths are the best of those, rarely they will harm people (if they are at least smart) while sociopaths are too much unpredictable and narcissists wont have the same tools to interpret and react to avoid harmful behavior
@@guifdcanalli It is probably no coincidence that "knowledge" and "understanding" is considered a virtue more powerful than simple virtues if you understand you can essentially prevent yourself and your base urges from overiding you.
I NEVER REALATED TO ANYTHING THIS BAD. it's like a super power basically like reading other minds but u cannot be 100% sure, so it's easy for people with high empathy to make other happy, it could become obsessive really, it's a kind of self validation even, it's it's easy ro do the opposite u know exactly where to hit to fir the emotional damage. I feel like emotional empathy prolly have a good sarcasm too lol. But sadly everything comes At a price.
As the child of what my mother likes to call a “garden variety narcissist”, I can say that the narcissist segment was pretty accurate (at least in my experience, bc I know these disorders can appear in different forms). I see a lot of people see narcissism as just extreme entitlement or an inflated amount of self-confidence, what really depicts a narcissist is manipulation and viewing others as tools. And not all narcissists appear overly confident or self-obsessed.
You're right about that also narcissistic people lack empathy even to loved ones they act before they think at least in my experience.
All Muslim men are narcissist and entitled
The ones who don't appear confident have a chance to be a covert narcissist is like a combo of a psychopath and a narcissist they like to appear not confident and normal but from the inside they think they are like the best also they hurt others indirectly like a normal narcissist will just hit you but a covert narcissist will destroy you mentally and put you in terrible pressure for their joy and motivation as covert narcissists do get motivation out of destroying anybody's mental or physical health also covert narcissists are experts at making new relationships then they just suddenly abuse you mentally in a horrible way so keep out an eye for any covert narcissists trying to trick you
A complex topic when you consider that there are sociopathic and psychopathic narcissists, so I can’t see how it’s possible to isolate these disorders into a comparison when all inflict damage and, sadly, form mirroring in their victims to cope with them.
THE DARK EMPATHS ARE NOT MEDICAL CONDITION AS ALL THE REST ❗❗❗
NOT EVEN DOCTORS HAVE A THEORY OR A DEFINITION OR A DESCRIBE FOR DARK EMPATHS❗❗❗
WHERE DID THEY FIND THOSE TOTAL CRAP THINGS ON THIS VIDEO, THEY MAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR DARK MIND❗❗❗
S H A M E ON THEM AND TO THE CREATORS OF THIS CRAP VIDEO❗❗❗
GO CHECK THEMSELVES,
T H E Y A R E D A R K ❗❗❗
We are dangerous when we are not conscious of our responsibility for how we behave, think, and feel.
Marshall B. Rosenberg.
Tell that to Muslims
@@anonymous-cx7ng go eat more and youll have more energy to make useful comments
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@@anonymous-cx7ng based
@@anonymous-cx7ng bad Muslims*
I know a person who is a dark empath, both of his/her parents are Narcissist and on top of that his/her elder sibling is a narcissist too.
Omg u r so hot and I am so thirsty!!!!
Is that your personal diagnosis or do you know for a fact a psychologist has diagnosed each of them with said disorder? Don't assume mental illness some people dont have one and simply mimic them because their bad people, or you magnify those qualities from your perspective because of some sort of grudge against those people
I could see that... scapegoat turning dark empath
@@dommysprite3771 Let's just say, I know it for a fact, its as clear as sky.
@@technonautgames4342 Nice observation.
Would you care to explain how?
Hi guys. I have narcissistic personality disorder, and what I want to say is... "normal" people never seem to stigmatize others. In popular culture, there are images of terrible madmen who will destroy you as soon as you get into their field of vision. No one will think that the same evil, despicable psychopaths only in twenty percent of cases have a tendency to sadism. Only a part of them can be aggressive. For that, the overwhelming majority suffers from depression... I am generally silent about people with my disorder. There are idiots with inflated self-esteem, and there are narcissists. We have it understated. Always. Here, as in Marina's song - "I feel the worst, so I will behave like the best." This is just a way of psychological protection. Narcissists are not always cruel manipulators without empathy. Most often, these are people who feel pathological weakness and emptiness. They do everything to prove their importance to the world. They spend all their strength on it. But whatever successes you would not come to, it will not be enough for you. No matter how well you have done something, and no matter how much praise you receive, you will look at it and say "Not enough". Do you want to distinguish a narcissist? Look at the people who do the most, do their best to hide their weaknesses and sometimes ask for compliments. And then they feel ashamed for it. Just in case, I apologize. If something in the text was unclear, it was because I was writing in another language and using a translator.
The translator did well. The message was clear and understandable.
@@johnransom9983 I'm glad of it.
Wow and like the narcissist you are, again turning it around. "My victims are wrong, they're the one without empathy, they abuse and bully, I'm the little victim here, I'm so perfect. I'm evil but in control, praise me.". Oh well. We see you. We know. Don't bother wasting time. You think victims never learn ? Look at that, why would you even walk in that video and brag about your condition ? You're aiming to upset all these victims in there. You just want to reactivate their trauma. You're so in control you're out to do business as usual, you can't even connect on TH-cam without looking up for people to gaslight and abuse. You could be listening to a song, watching some other thing, but instead you're here dishing victim-blaming and shaming and hoping to find someone weak, maybe a young vulnerable child, that you can suck the joy and health out of. You really have no empathy. I really feel so bad for all the people here who have to watch that gaslighting as though they don't get enough in their lives. Not to mention the exemple it sets. And to know at the end of the day you will feel not an ounce of remorse for putting such an awful post.
@@ЭрнестТимохин-ы9д I also noticed, some narcissists don't have empathy. Others do have.
@@artius6170 It depends on a variety of creteria, including the severity of the disorder, comorbidity and upbringing. All narcissists, one way or another, have reduced empathy, but it is not absent if they also do not have a Dissocial Disorder.
I've found that psychopaths tend to be far more logically based. They analyse situations, consciously or unconsciously, and determine the outcomes. Then they pick the one that will suit them best.
Yes and it's fkn annoying. I am a psychopath and Ilogically analyze whether upvoting or downvoting a Reddit post will be more beneficial to my life in the long run.
@@japanpanda2179💀💀💀
I can say it’s dark empathy bc psychopaths have no empathy but dark empathy have conginive empathy but not the other two. So.. you don’t need a psychopath to be dangerous!
“I’m not a psychopath I’m a high functioning sociopath” we all love Sherlock
narcissist is the worst but a dark empath can destroy a narcissist
Because we mirror 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤we too smart
@@tammyfitzgerald5336can I recruit you to do some work for me?
@@tammyfitzgerald5336 edgy nerd alert
ramblings of a teenager
Dark Empath must the worstist so!
0:00 intro
0:44 1、sociopaths
1:35 2、psychopaths
2:55 3、narcissists
4:16 4、dark empaths
6:22 outro conclusion
Thanks, I didn't know how to handle this extensive clip
THE DARK EMPATHS ARE NOT MEDICAL CONDITION AS ALL THE REST ❗❗❗
NOT EVEN DOCTORS HAVE A THEORY OR A DEFINITION OR A DESCRIBE FOR DARK EMPATHS❗❗❗
WHERE DID THEY FIND THOSE TOTAL CRAP THINGS ON THIS VIDEO, THEY MAKE THEM OUT OF THEIR DARK MIND❗❗❗
S H A M E ON THEM AND TO THE CREATORS OF THIS CRAP VIDEO❗❗❗
GO CHECK THEMSELVES,
T H E Y A R E D A R K ❗❗❗
@@Asto508 lmao
These are in varying degrees harmful and dangerous, depending on their method and means of exploitation and abuse. Someone intuitive as a 𝐃𝐚𝐫𝐤 𝐄𝐦𝐩𝐚𝐭𝐡 could seem harmless, but are plotting when to weaponize the vulnerability of their target and how to mess with their head, like it is fun sport. They know how damaging and horrible they may treat people and yet lack remorse nor have no conscience at all. You also cannot rely on their moral compass nor their capacity to do good out of genuine and compassionate empathy.
But it's all performative
Yes
not how that actually works. i am convinced that these so called dark empaths are just immature hyoka empaths. who can use their empathy to get what they want since they are strong empaths who are strong on thebdark triad.... they are still empaths and often only go after people who annoy them.
The thing is, the Dark Empath can turn it on and off... When they want to intuitively see into you, they can... They CAN feel, too... just like you and me. The trouble comes whenever they just DECIDE not to... so whatever wrong they do won't bother them in the slightest. THAT is what makes them dangerous.
At least, with a Psychopath, you can occasionally catch a glimpse of their "studying". You CAN set them up with an emotionally ambiguous situation and room or crowd, and they won't know what to do or how to act. Psycho's and Sociopaths are the ones who most frequently tell me things like "I'm not sure whether to shake your hand or punch you in the face." Which is fine by me... At least, I know who or what they are... and even when they don't say as much in as many words, I can usually catch it in their expressions when they're obviously confused about how to act or what emotion to express... ;o)
A month ago
I’ve personally dealt with my parent which I’ve had to assume they are a narcissist. If I wasn’t getting physically abused for mildly bad or just regular child behavior, like playing with toys for too long, there was just nonstop screaming. Screaming and shaming her damned kids for not being enough, doing enough, when me and my older sister indeed learned how to clean the house from top to bottom before I turned 8 and my sister turned 12. With each incident we tried to adapted to her with what she had to tell us. Clean clean clean even when she wouldn’t teach us in times we didn’t understand and if we didn’t get it don’t take a bath or sit down for even a second. If you’re too comfortable it’ll be snapped out of you even quicker. I can remember the times I’d been beaten out of a bath utterly naked just to learn I did nothing wrong and will not be receiving an apology. I believe manipulative tendencies came slowly as she realized she couldn’t hit us anymore, or rather not as often. The last time I was beat the same manner was at 16 and the last time she put her hands on me and slapped me was at 18. The entitlement she thinks she has over her children is disgusting. She’s treated me like a slave my whole life and I can’t wrap my head around why I’m unable to leave, but I do know the reason. It still is and always has been too risky for me to leave shelter. I have no money, no friend to stay with, and I would most likely end up on the street. I’ve vowed to become so independent I’m unrecognizable. So mentally stable despite all horrors I’ve had in this house. The psychological and unjust trauma I’ve accumulated because of my family, and my mother alone before turning a double digit is so damn unacceptable.
Thanks for reading 💞
Only a narcissist if the narcissist claimed that she/he cleaned the house herself. While letting you do it. "The bad king" scenario.
i’m so sorry😞
Maybe hide a camera somewhere so the next time she assaults you it’s caught on film? Then take the footage to the cops and tell them that you’re living in a dangerous situation. I know you’re afraid of ending up on the street, but is there anyone you’re close with who you can talk to about maybe crashing at their place for a while?
And I wouldn’t be so sure about you not having any trauma. I’m not a licensed psychologist so take my words with a grain of salt but enduring years of abuse typically leaves some scarring.
Hope all that helps, and hopefully you’ll get out of there soon!
@@matthacker3481 i am still struggling with the same situation....as i am still a student... physical mental and emotional abuse...she feeds to me everyday the same line - you'll end just like my jobless sister... you show the same triaits as her...you are worthless...you will end up in places you can't even think of .....you will have no option other than dying..then you'll come to me begging of saving you and then I wont help you...its hard to ignore all this everyday when you're not allowed to even go out of your house or your room
Beat her with a bat
Sociopath: You caused he pain.
Pyschopath: I caused the pain.
Narcissistic: I dont know which caused the pain, it just wasnt me.
Dark Empath: Im so sorry for your pain! Im going to bring it back up.
The dark empath is probably the most dangerous in my opinion. Imagine someone who willingly wreaks havoc regardless of their empathy/conscience.. something that all of us neurotypicals have yet not even THAT stops them from taking advantage of people.
With great power comes great responsibility
As I already wrote under a comment, ALL of them *know* (using study or adding "intuition") what you're feeling... but they don't *feel* it inside them (no real empathy), so they don't care about your feelings and they can use them to get what they want (what they want sometimes is to destroy you).
Sociopaths and psychopaths add very often an attraction to the worst and most illegal actions a human being can do, just using others to reach a goal is not enough.
Anyway the video may lead people to "overlook" narcissists, but *I met both narcissists and sadists* who watched videos of tortures (probably psychopaths or dark empaths or, don't know, maybe sociopaths), and I found narcissists more dangerous on a long-term cos they can make you their toy for 5-10-50 years (while they still can become a positive part of society if they work on themself in a psychotherapic path).
With narcissists there are no huge explosions but instead it's a wreckage, it's a yo-yo cos after they destroyed you emotionally they start to make you feel special again, their best friend and a precious human being.
The video doesn't reach this channel standards, doesn't look so accurate and clear.
Anyway non-neurotypical people are half of the population and most part of the people watching channels like this.
HSP, Asperger, long time depression, maniac depression, plus gifted people, schizophrenia, etc:
believe it or not, some of the best people out there can be defined with one of these tags.
Instead narcissists and most manipulators are neurotypical but can/wanna destroy you.
I thnk that abortion laws were overturned in the USA by dark empats who "feel" for fetus while enjoying hurting women.
@@slythpaw exactly 😂😂
I've felt narcissists are more difficult to deal with. Narcissists have a need to involve you in their grandure, being a grey rock isn't a permanent fix but a consistent effort while a psychopath can lose interest in you permanently if you know what their angle is and what not to respond to.
@Kurtis Gilmore Honestly I do agree with you, but what sort of people would you consider the person I am naming:
He tends to pretend to be multiple people at once, use their alternative ego to commit things like suicide to cause reaction in actual person, once a person understands their thinking, they lose interest, and they pretend to have multiple-personality disorder.
@Kurtis Gilmore i do wonder how many functioning narcissists there are compared to functioning psychopaths. As you said, psychopaths lack the wildness narcissists can have. Not talking about the ultimate display of "harm" in the form of murder, since physical violence is unacceptable in current day society. Narcissists routinely destroy a targets sense of self, social structures and such when their perceived status is threatened or even out of boredom at a frequency you can set your watch to. If we could have statistics on how many events that negatively affect others are induced by said personalities, i have a feeling a narcissist would rank higher. Then again, you only have to be killed once, you can survive toxic bullying. So perhaps a definition of harm is needed.
@@deepamehra5806 sorry , what ?.
Narcissistic people tend to be weak. Introverts who act like one of the others in this video can deal with them quite easily
@@deepamehra5806idiot
I was so empathetic when I was younger and everyone knew it. I knew everything about my friends. Now, when it came to anger, I was fairly good at holding it in. But in high school, I would explode and have black-out rage. I would suddenly throw all the things someone confided in me back at them tenfold. Took quite of bit of therapy to stop doing that and I can't say that I don't get the urge from time to time.
Edit: I'm fully aware of what caused my anger issues but that doesn't excuse how I treated others when I got angry.
I actually struggle with this exact same thing. It’s causing me to wonder if I show extreme signs of dark empathy. I’ve always been known to be empathic to others but it never felt in the same way that they had thought
I had such a friend... I can say it was a disgusting feeling to listen to all my private problems (which I told her about earlier) in a public forum when she got angry (especially when she was wrong). She's a nice person, very intelligent, absolutely sweet, I like her very much and I wish she would understand it as you do.
@@ethnaas2819 have you talked to her about it?
@@userm180 of course
@@ethnaas2819 and i take it that she didnt recognize her bad behaviour, right?
Dark empath is very real. I had a relationship where this person would seem like they wanted to know everything about me, and they did. Later on in the relationship, they used all of my personal information against me in many arguments... That's just one example of what they did.
Then it seems most people are dark empaths
thats called being immature not a dark empath
I think it's more like a malignant narcissist. Such as saying they want to hold the rope while you strangle to death so they can watch your eyes fade. Or they secretly drug you and r*pe you. Then you become pregnant. Then during an argument they reveal their secret that they "finished" in you on purpose because they know you wouldn't/couldn't abort.... while laughing and smiling in your face. Purposefully trying to just be sinister and hurt you in every way imaginable.
@@laurenperdue3981 why wouldn’t you leave after the first time that happened lol
That could also be a psychopath _appearing_ to intuitively know you.
Yikes… I understand empathy, but I will not feel what you feel. I was diagnosed with BPD and CPTSD and I’ve asked my therapist if I was a narcissist, but she told me I wasn’t and that my outbursts are caused by a trigger where I relive a traumatic experience and that I shut down emotionally because it’s how my brain protects itself. I also turn inward on myself instead of hurt others on purpose and would rather just unalive than to hurt my loved ones anymore. Idky I lack the feeling of empathy. I was emotionally repressed since I was 12, I’m 32 now and finally got help. Mental illness is wild.
I'm technically a victimistic narcissist, apparently. I do have a shit ton of traumas so I project a better, more emotional intelligent version of myself into the world while I need to make others deal with my shit instead of myself because I feel worthless and as if I can't handle it. It's hell and I do make people around me suffer, but I hate that. I don't want to prey on people. I want to be loved and feel safe.
I know there's many many cases and human psychology is so complex, but it saddens me not to find almost any material teaching someone like myself to learn to handle the disorder better. I happen to go to therapy, but that's a privilege. What about those who can't?
@@9401maru When you KNOW it? And don't do anything to stop it? I know that Rome wasent build in a day....but this🕵️ you,M, you are STUPID AF🤮
@@9401maruwell, wrong
if oyu have bpd your life has been hell, it is a trauma created personality, you need so much love and support and no matter how you cope with your feelings, wether you self harm or cut off- just you being aware of it makes you better than people who are toxic who may have bpd but just go onto meds and don't even persue diagnosis or treatment, much love to you sensitive creative loving bpd in progress because you started off life at the bottom and never knew it- the illness is like spending your entire life crawling toward a light that is always out of reach
I want a sitcom show where protagonists are all of these personality types being a group of friends
Just use the show "Friends" as a template and remove the "r"
It's always sunny in philadelphia?
That would be interesting. I wonder if Seinfeld fits this
@@danielwhite1135 and the theme song is lovefool with just them smiling as the people around them commit suicide, go into debt, go to hospital, and pack and leave.
To be honest, the worst one is the one that crosses your path. I have a narcissist father and my mom and I have the scars, both physical and emotional, to show how terrible it can be. I’ve had a narcissist in my path for my whole live but if my father had any of the other traits the hits, insults and manipulation would have hurt all the same. Just be careful people and stay away from this a**holes
My son-in-law is a narcissist and put us through hell until we realised we could simply have nothing more to do with him. Life has been pretty good for the whole family ever since.
I mean i am pretty sociopathic and i think the moment you push me hard enough for me to do something, you deserve whats coming, but am genuinly scared of psychopaths
I have a sociopathic and narcissistic mother
After watching this video, I realized that my elder brother is sociopathic... He hits me rudely sometimes he gets angry, he can't be controlled even there's parents.. but when I begin to cry he says sorry and be sad about his bad temperedness... he doesn't even know he is a sociopath... he is a human
Nah I watched out of curiosity I go into the comments and see whines and complaints
When you were Talking about the dark empath, it felt like you were describing me in great detail. Well done.....
My issue with the “dark empath” distinction is that psychopaths are usually highly capable of cognitive empathy. If they weren’t, they wouldn’t be so manipulative. I suppose there are psychopaths who don’t utilize cognitive empathy, but that would just mean tha dark empaths are a subtype of psychopathy, rather than a distinct archetype.
i d say that psychopaths dont have empathy bc a part of the left hemisphere isn’t active (which causes the lack of empathy and not understanding) while dark empaths understand but bc they don’t posses emotional empathy which make them not feel bad or hurt when they see chaos and destruction. which means they are similar yes but their brain activity is completely different.
exactly , its not its own category
Psychopaths can't feel empathy, but they can understand how it works that is also why a psychopath could sometimes not know when to respond with false empathy while a "dark empath" is someone who can feel empathy, but decides to instead of care for it use it to know when to take advantage of someone else
I think any empath can be dark throughout their life. For the most part they're positive and nurturing. But if put in situations that make them lose focus on the positive. Eventually they experience dark dark times and they can learn how to use their empathic abilities in a defensive way and sometimes that turns dark.
I'm bipolar and also empathic I've personally went through some dark points in my life. I eventually find myself and ground myself and balance myself and I get back to that positive, good energy spreading me.
Im not proud of those times but I learned alot from them. So I'll take whatever good I can from them.
Literally cancers in astrology
I came in the comment section to expect a bunch of armchair psychologists, seeing what this channel is and, boy, was I right.
@@SorrowAvenue As the operators of the most complex and powerful device in the universe, prone to such horrendous misuse and malfunction, everyone should strive to be an armchair psychologist.
@@BC-wj8fx I can't tell if you're being sarcastic, seeing as your comment is riddled with contradictory statements, but I can only hope you're joking.
Totally agree!
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I've been around all kinds of personalities.
I still think that dark empaths while being manipulative can still have empathy so they're not too harsh like sociopaths and psychopaths who might turn violent either physically or mentally.
Maybe I'm wrong though, I don't know..
I think some people may have a combination of sociopathy and being a dark empath, it just seems like it could go hand in hand, maybe even escalate to psychopathy
I think it all depends on the individual
Am i a dark empath if i can read other people like a book or smth?
@@Bhizzyi no, probably just means ur emotionally intelligent
@@Bhizzyi or that means u can observe people, which is a good thing to have so u know what people are like before anything’s happens and so you can protect urself from any people that show red flags. or what u said just means u can read their emotions and vibes they give off.
its so corny seeing some people in the comments thinking they actually have one of these disorders because they were mean to a friend before or some other dumb reason.
So true , the true ones never come out and if they come out , they aren't as harmful as the true ones .
It's likewise so corny watching someone out their main character syndrome.
... Or young age, I guess.
That’s not very empathetic of you to comment on a video that categorizes insensitive bullies 🤨🤦🏾♀️
@@madamejaysynstarotoriginal hmm and why would he do that? could this not be a way of stating he is one of them without stating it?
I really think every empaths should embrace a bit of darkness. True empathy can be very hurtful and overwhelming, so processing it at least partly through cognition, and less with emotion can be useful for oneself and to help others.
Also, I noticed that we tend to attract narcissistic and histrionic personalities who like to pray and feed on us, so learning to weaponize empathy not to manipulate but as self-defense can be a good thing
Agree with every string of word
So if I am an Empath I will embrace darkness?
@@Chara3690 You won't, but you have to, just a little bit.
@@lechatrelou6393 *Who told you that I am not already evil...*
@@Chara3690 nobody, but no evil would write with thick letters (not english, don't know how it's called)
A dark empath just feels like one possible expression of psychopathy.
im scared i think im a dark empath-
@@Maliniasredmask emo
@@lauri1092 emo doesn't automatically means manipulative
@@Maliniasredmask, from what I understand, there are many people who fit the diagnosis of one of these four categories of disorders who live fairly normal lives. Famously, there is a neurologist who was once conducting a study in which they did brain scans of ordinary people and of diagnosed psychopaths, and observing very specific differences. For the heck of it, he and his colleagues in the study decided to scan their own brains as well. Upon reviewing his own scan, he immediately noticed it had the exact same features as those of the psychopaths from the study. After consulting with friends and family he realized he really did have the traits of a psychopath, but it simply didn’t manifest in extreme ways because he had a happy childhood and a more or less normal life. With the diagnosis and some cognitive behavioral therapy he was able to improve his relationships even further by safeguarding against the most harmful traits.
This is all to say that, even if you are a “dark empath” as you fear, it isn’t necessarily the life sentence you may think it is. In fact, a diagnosis may be helpful, in that you’d have self knowledge. With that knowledge and the modern tools of cognitive behavioral therapy, it seems more possible than ever to live a meaningful life with such conditions.
@@Maliniasredmask sure bud
In my opinion dark empaths (If we are to use that term) are simply a type of psychopath.
A lot of diagnosed psychopaths have cognitive empathy, this is well known. Same goes for sociopaths as well, although sociopaths can sometimes feel secondary emotions, all be it to a muted degree.
No, they are Not comparable to psychopaths, because they have emotional empathy.
In my experience there are two major
differences to the other types:
We do not manipulate as narcissists do, because our emotional empathy still works. Manipulating would us also make us feel hurt or unstabl, just like the other person does.
Instead we figure out, using cognitive empathy, how the other Person can be made feeling good and use that skill to feel good as well. In my case e.g. I figured out how a persons humour worked and could then bring up the funniest things, completely adapted to their own specific essence of humour.
But in the end we recognize the other persons wish, us to develop feelings for them. And because we feel them being uncomfortable, but cannot fall in love, because we were so hurt, we suffer as well.
Being a dark empath means constant self doubts and issues, more than with narcissism, but luckily we don't really hurt the other person. Hurt maybe, but definitly not traumatise.
Psychopaths have no empathy of any type...it's their defining characteristic. What makes a DE more damaging in their ability to know exactly what actions to take, and what you'll ferl as a result. A psychopath has no idea.
@@kimrobinson6285 I've heard that psychopaths *can* learn empathy, but they need to be trained to narcissists on the other hand, *cannot.* Dark empaths are usually people who have been abused and develop harmful traits, but it may not be permanent like a narcissist. So in my mind, the narcissist the the worst one. Also dealing with a narcissistic "mother' doesn't help either.
@@iwannabeyourdog90Okay then maybe it’s a type of sociopathy. (Limited ability to feel empathy.) Bc “dark empath” isn’t a thing in the DSM-5.
The most loving and sensitive person you know who's back after the last betrayal almost killed both him/her and his body and soul.
There's no way of saying what he is today.
I'm curious if Dark Emparthy is a true personality disorder or if it is a set of behaviors that anyone can fall into when in a toxic or traumatic situation? I've definitely exhibited Dark Empathy, but it was in relationships I later found were harmful to me (Borderlines or Narcissists), and so I was in a trauma bond and survival mode.
As soon as I was out of those relationships, my manipulative behavior stopped entirely.
Now that I'm more aware of how to identify those behaviors in myself, as well as what triggers them (specific behaviors in other types of people), I can chose to stay out of those situations both for my own mental health and to keep myself from behaving certain ways.
One could think of how humans behave in war, survival, or disaster situations. Dark behavior that actually allows for survival come out from somewhere deep inside, but it isn't WHO we are.
I'm right alongside you there. Yes on trauma and after effects. But what about when you get to "normal" life. But you still feel those strong urges. You still think those same thoughts. If anything, crave those behaviors you quit? Silently holding them inside afraid the one person you care about finds out and leaves you? Afraid of losing them because you know you'll easily fall into those behaviors that feel normal to you but you know not everyone else does feel those. Or think those thoughts. I feel like holding it inside helps keep relationships... but how do you get rid of those cravings. The need. I understand and struggle to apply... but I still have feelings
Good observation I think you may be on to something
I doubt it. I don’t think it’s in the DSM.
Many serial killers that are commonly referred to as being psychopaths are actually borderline. It's my belief that some are even miss diagnosed as having aspd, which is strange given that alot of the murders they commit are very emotion driven.
@@Alias_Reign It’s not a perfect system, we have social sciences making a terrible impact. We have been set back decades in the mental health areas because of wokeness. Intersectionality. None of it is real.
I love how Amanda is doing like a sports introductory speech while introducing the 4 toxic personalities, but overall this was serious and educational stuff
Narcissism is the one that I hear feared and discussed the most, and small wonder: it's rampant in our society. But the one that I've come to realize that I hate the most is PSYCHOPATHY, because it's a yardstick that I'm tired of being measured against. People with psychopathic traits have, in my observation, far too much power in all the wrong places, and yet are constantly promoted to the public as *positive* role models, even as heroes. (Especially so, to impressionable young boys like I was.) I've grown tired of the pressure to measure my maturity and my masculinity against them, and I now know that I've unconsciously avoided places, careers, and fields of influence where they hold sway, all my life.
P.S. If you want a REAL example of a dark empath in fiction, just look at Palpatine "coaching" Anakin Skywalker.....
My cluster b list (from most hated to least):
-psychopath/sociopath
-narcissist
-dark empath
A psychopath/sociopath is the most dangerous.
A narcissist is the most annoying, needy, childish, embarrassing, weird etc.
Psychopath: Johan Liebert, Ayanokouji, Scar from lion king.
Psychopath type music: "The nowhere king" song
Sociopath: Light Yagami
Narcissist: Mom from Mommy dearest, Cinderella's step mom and Rapunzel's mom from Disney.
Narc song: "Mine mine mine" from Pocahontas or "mother knows best" from Tangled.
@@specialtwice4975 I think ur wrong about yohan libert
I think the reason why people prays Psychopath’s is because people are always like, “emotions get in the way of everything”. If you get rid of emotion you basically create the perfect being.
Sociopaths are created> they once had emotion so they can essentially turn into DEmpaths
And narcissists are basically regular people who feel a little more shame, and care about themselves a little more than others.
I think I've encountered at _least_ one psychopath before in a work environment. She was extremely manipulative and used me to play games and only tolerated me as long as I/others complimented her.
She used compliments too (probably heard somewhere and noticed the reactions) and then used them to manipulate others into liking her. Then, when people realized she'd been saying the same thing to everyone (literally) (things like... you are the [x] most [positive trait] person I have ever met) and she was confronted with it, she just became angry. Then lost all social interest in everyone except those she saw she could still manipulate.
She would also say one thing to one person and a completely different thing to another person, like there was no connection or reason behind it. Obviously in retrospect it was *ONLY* to suit her own needs or goals or standing.
She was addicted to praise and the only way to explain it is like a child given ice cream for doing one thing, and then instead of doing something else to help (i.e. the reason for getting a reward) they would only do that *EXACT* same thing like 5 days in a row to expect an ice cream again because they want an ice cream (except in this case a psychopath would want that ice cream even if it was from a dying corpse).
She probably isn't the most destructive psychopath out there but definitely on the scale. 100%.
Also outwardly she would seem normal, just a bit weird sometimes.
Also sometimes blurted out certain things and apparently had little instinct towards non-violence and sadism.
She can't have been a (pure) narcissist because she "blended in" and even though heavily egocentric and lacking of empathy, didn't display that outwardly or refused to (as stated) i.e. compliment others.
Edit: Play games = basically messing / trying to mess with someone's head, apparently for fun. Control other people, be in charge of their destiny etc.
Also I know how this story has certain similar traits outwardly to more normal situation but this was kinda extreme. So I know what some people may think upon first read but I've had those "normal" versions when younger and this was not it.
Sounds more like a narcissist....
Did you read all of that
She is vulnerable narccissit........There are 2 types of narcissist- vulnerable and grandiose. The one mentioned in the video is grandiose. People often only have awareness of one type of narcissism.
@@pranjalgupta8631学到一个新词汇grandiose浮夸的
That's narcissism,
One of the four types,
I forgot the name though
I have worked with a psychopath (when I was younger) and a narcissist (being older). At the time they confused me and I felt vulnerable. Later I have learned to understand their traits and was able to keep my authenticity, the key to stand up to them. Dark empathy is still new to me.
No depending on how persistent or competitive the narc or psycho is the key is to get away from them completely. The second option is unfortunately to literally go to war and take out the competitive psycho or narc before he/she does something crazy or violent to you or your loved ones. And then at that point you risk jail time or other reprocusions.
@@dn8443 It's insane how you deny this persons experience in order to confirm your preconceived notion, rather than learning from what they said and adopting it into your worldview.
Have you ever thought that perhaps what makes psychopaths manipulative is you telling others to literally go to war with them whenever they see them? If you lived in a society where once people learned that you're too empathetic, they would attack you for no reason other than their preconceived notion, how would you feel?
It’s new to you because it’s not real and a rather new buzz term. It’s not recognized anywhere and largely. Considered sociopathic traits and cognitive empathy.
The dark empath seems like the worst in my opinion because they understand what you feel better than any of the other personalities and they use it against you.
Narcissists also have cognitive empathy...
As I already wrote under a comment, ALL of them *know* (using study or adding "intuition") what you're feeling... but they don't *feel* it inside them (no real empathy), so they don't care about your feelings and they can use them to get what they want (what they want sometimes is to destroy you).
Sociopaths and psychopaths add very often an attraction to the worst and most illegal actions a human being can do, just using others to reach a goal is not enough.
Anyway the video may lead people to "overlook" narcissists, but *I met both narcissists and sadists* who watched videos of tortures (probably psychopaths or dark empaths or, don't know, maybe sociopaths), and I found narcissists more dangerous on a long-term cos they can make you their toy for 5-10-50 years (while they still can become a positive part of society if they work on themself in a psychotherapic path).
With narcissists there are no huge explosions but instead it's a wreckage, it's a yo-yo cos after they destroyed you emotionally they start to make you feel special again, their best friend and a precious human being.
The video doesn't reach this channel standards, doesn't look so accurate and clear.
@@nabilc1667 some psychopaths can have it as well
@@rodolfomezaalvarado8004 true.
Narcissism. 100%. Not being manipulated isn't all that hard with the proper lifestyle changes and knowledge. Narcissists are just overall a pain in the ass to just spend time around in general. They're so full of themselves i'd rather be in a relationship with dark empath that understands me enough to have a conversation with where we can compromise than someone so full of themselves as a narcissists tend to be.
DE or N? It’s basically a would you rather,
Someone who understands you [otherwise normal] but are full of themselves. Narcissist
Or
Someone who understands how you feel, but doesn’t feel themselves. > DEmpath
Another way of saying it could be:
Someone who shows their nature > verbally/physically [not towards you]
Or
Someone who doesn’t show [hides] their nature > [fake it] may have emotion.
Remember though, having a god complex make you a Narcissist. It’s a disorder, not a personality trait. Not all Narcicissts are bad people. And since they only make up 1% of the population of convinced that most of the “Narcs” you’ve met were just egotistical jerks. (And don’t you dare “what’s the difference” me 😭)
Dark Empath: Schadenfreude, the personality.
Nothing more dangerous than a smart psychopath, though.
This is scary. I'm a teacher and once i have a student that shows absolutely no empathy for anyone. We didn't know what to do with him. His behavior was violent and we could only keep an eye on him during recess.
As a teacher, you could've taught him empathy. Instead you chose to do nothing. Shame on you.
@@monk4ever That's like saying you can teach a deaf person to hear. Not only is it complete nonsense, it also misses an opportunity. People with low or no empathy need alternative motivations to do good. We teach children with most disabilities how to operate in the world, but nobody wants to accept that some children need to be taught explicitly how to function without empathy.
@@monk4ever You can't teach empathy. You can't just change how a person views the world just by "teaching" them. Empathy isn't just like math or science that can be taught in that sense, it's pretty much basic human morals, and you can't teach that. And even IF the kid can be changed a teacher wouldn't be in that field of profession to actually be able to help him. Whatever the kid does whether it is therapy or what, the decision is all on the guardian. The teachers simply don't know what to do because they have no power over the kid's life.
I have a friend that is a diagnosed sociopath and I just wanted to let you all know that she is still a human and can feel certain emotions, she just has trouble showing them. She is a truly kind and caring person even though she is still discovering emotions. Please don't judge sociopaths as they are still human.
all theese sociopatha dark empath... sound relly bad but that doesent mean they are a bad person the bad part only comes out in the cases when its forsed by pain in most cases
They are not.
I hate you
Girl run and hide do not ever do not make ties with these people
Damn that’s not good stay away from them for your own safety
I normally enjoy you're videos. I have faced abuse and dealt with almost all of these personalities in varying degrees and I can agree with most of what you said when applied to specific people. This generalizes people suffering from mental health issues and characterizes them as these automatic villains. And trust me, I know they can be, but imagine being a struggling teen or young adult diagnosed with one of these disorders and watching this video hoping for information. If anything lacks empathy, it's the way this video is constructed.
nicely said, I agree.
I mean when their disorders literally impairs/outright takes away their ability to feel empathy it's hard to not label them as villains.
@@lilyschrodingy3600 I might slip up at times but I've personally been able to avoid labeling any person as a "villain" as I've grown in age and it's benefited my own sense of well being quite a lot
@@lilyschrodingy3600 Well just because you have a gun, doesn't mean you're going to shoot someone
@@nictschi7399 Perhaps, but to someone else, the danger of being shot will always be there.
After watching this video, I realized that the dark triad traits that make up dark empathy are present in me especially when I was younger. Currently, there are still vestiges of these in me but not at the intensity as it was before, especially narcissism, and that I am not as aggressive in infringing other people anymore.
After a few minutes of introspection, these 2 are the reasons I can think of that made me be:
1) I was raised in a good environment with good parents. My parents have a strict sense of right and wrong which was ingrained in me. I practice them not because I agree with them, but rather because of habit as they always compel me to follow their examples when I was younger. I got so used to it that I would do them instinctively. I would usually help other people unconditionally out of habit but I do not really care about them. I feel no emotion when I feed homeless people. I feel no emotion when I introduce jobless people to certain acquaintances to give them the opportunity of livelihood. But I try to act like I care so as to make sure these people will not feel bad and I do not want to look weird. I did not bother to change this because I have thought that it would be more beneficial in the long run if one acts good than being an asshole since things have ways of going back to you.
2) One would face more resistance if one acts villainous. Regardless of one's subtlety in his/her actions, in time, someone will notice you. There may be people that are the same or worse than you that may see you as a threat and will act against you which I see as a hassle. As I grew old(im still at my 20s tho, so not really old, lol), I have come to appreciate peace and silence. That is why it is my top priority to meld in and try not to be that visible by ensuring that I do not encroach, as much as possible, the boundaries of other people.
Having been to hell and back with a psychopath (actually, all Dark Triad traits apply to this person) I opine that the psychopath is the most dangerous. Cunning, remorseless, masterful manipulators who will do and say anything for personal gain or amusement. Very scary! One tidbit of advice- if you are with a psychopath, know that change isn’t likely and once you decide to leave, maintain ZERO contact. This is when “ghosting” is acceptable. It’s for your own safety. As far as dark empaths, this one is a bit tricky. I’d err on the side of empathy toward a dark empath. Feeling ALL THE TIME is exhausting. Being available to many can leave you drained and totally burnt out. Maybe the darkness is retaliatory to feeling overwhelmed. Hard to say…
You can actually treat him not as human. Like toxic sledge or slime of pain with bones. If its impossible to interact with them like with humans - why you even try? You dont treat your pants or shelves like humans - no need for these evil people. They no need in it in first place
I'm engaged to a Psychopath and I love him just the way he is.
He is very intelligent, very honest, and I am only 1 of 2 people who truly knows who and what he is.
He has actually taught me a lot when it comes to my ways of thinking.
Not really the best idea. Cutting ties is much more effective and poses the least amount of risk.
I'm a dark empath, and you're close there. It really *is* exhausting to be available to everyone, to feel what they're feeling, especially if they are feeling a lot of sad emotions. I don't know about other dark empaths, but I've anyways had a tendency to not trust people easily- it's simply hard to trust someone when you can see the worst sides of someone. However, any malice of mine has been given to people I consider to deserve it. Liars, hypocrites, generally other people who cause harm to others intentionally.
And for the people who are my friends, I try to help them with any situations I can.
The best advice I can give is to just be nice to one (if you somehow realize you're talking to one), and that should be a given. (You should in general be nice to everyone you meet, until you have a reason not to.) Aside from that... well. Nothing really.
Have a good day.
All psychopaths are narcissists, and they tend to be worse narcissists because the empathy deficits are even more profound. Dark empathy is made up, its a make-believe rebranding of traditional narcissism and there are no identifiable differences. This video was just comparing 3 narcissists with eachother, a psychopathic narcissist, a narcissist, and a narcissist (but given another name to trip you up). Overall a shit video
As someone with diagnosed personality disorder (don't want to specify), I can say that the easiest thing is to be aware of what am I capable of and understand that positive feelings of others can and are positive for me too.
Most harmful things I've done weren't because I wanted it on purpose, it was just natural thing to do.
I don't want to be harmed, I have to know, to not to harm others.
same brother same
ASPD?
bro same,my action nearly cause a girl to commite the unthinkable. I have never felt so shit in my life.
Y'all cringey and liars here
@@Martha-w7w9b ah yes because you know our lives and conditions by looking at a comment
The most dangerous is the person who goes around diagnosing everyone they meet with some sort of extreme personality disorder. At least the others can get treatment and not make their issues other people's problem.
Do i sense a few kilos of salt?
@@disruptivegarage Well, it wouldn't be enough to take this lovely video with just one grain.
Uuuh you mean a narcissist. Definitely are the ones that says "everyone has a problem but not me" it piss me off when people believe them
Everybody thinks they're a psychotherapist ! Going around , analyzing everyone they meet . They want to label everything !
You kind of have a point but holy shot was that catty lol
🙏💖 A lot of times, one or more of these will overlap in the same person. It's not always so easy to put people in one box or another, and our perspective of someone else's personality can be skewed by our relationship to them and how/if they abuse us. IMHO, the most dangerous one is the one that you happen to meet that chooses you as their next victim. Set boundaries and keep them. It's amazing how a kind, simple "No" to a Toxic person will reveal their true nature. Protect yourself once you know, and then put them in a box if you feel the need; however, boundaries and protection should come first. No one has a right to mistreat you. Period. Peace and safety to all...
Excluding situations when they attack physically .....the dark empath causes the most pain ....😥
So true 😥
Yeah they certainly win out on manipulative damage. I still think psychopath because they're the most likely to commit violent crimes, say robbing a store simply because they feel they want the money and have no regard for anyone who tries to stand in the way
It could be argued a Dark Empath is merely an empath who has had enough of being used and taken advantage of. Being an empath they can access their innate abilities to defend and deflect.
Have they really been taken advantage of or did they just falsely perceive it that way? Not gaslighting
Yeah, then Intense abuse of all sorts happen and they just use that as an excuse. Where, people have definitely been mistreated more than they have and aren't hurtful manipulators.
Yes, if you're too naive then just turn into a psycopath, a narcisist, and a manipulative person 👍
Nah it’s cognitive so it’s j a high functioning psychopath
that is not true because dark empath has no conscience
Any of these personality types are only harmful if they actually cause harm, and I can tell you from personal experience that any harm caused is either unintentional (as in you didn't consider how much the other person would be hurt because it came so naturally to treat them the way you treated them) or intentional. But you can also choose to intentionally NOT harm people, and even to help them instead. It's not easy, but you can actually do a LOT of good when you decide to, you don't get the same rush of pleasant feelings I'm assuming "normal" people get but you can still get a lot of satisfaction out of it. You can't always decide how your brain is going to handle things, but you can decide how YOU handle things, and imo there's no greater power move than totally subverting your brain chemistry to be whoever the hell you want regardless.
TL;DR: it's reductive to call any of these personality types harmful. They just are. People still get to decide how they act.
right. that's part of my thoughts on this too... it comes down to personal responsibility and whether or not the person in question actually takes responsibility for himself. as mentioned in this video characteristics like these are symptomatic of internal wounding or trauma, and like physical injuries they CAN be treated and fully resolved. in light of this, in my mind it's better to view these as only transitory phases that will be overcome once the individual in question chooses to take responsibility for himself and pursue self-improvement and the resolution of psychological traumas. a person will be one of these character types only as long as he wants to be, and if he really sees that how he behaves hurts others he will consciously choose to change through self-improvement.
the acceptance of personal responsibility for one's behavior towards others is key in helping him overcome his shortcomings. they will improve if treated with love and compassion, though it may take a long time to see a change. after all, they didn't get that way over night, and to think they will change after a day or two is shortsighted. treating them with love, kindness and patience is the best route to take simply because that is what they have been lacking for most of their lives.
Total B/S evil is evil is evil is evil. And a psychopath is a psychopath they may learn not to do evil but they are still evil. No risk - no problem - guaranteed.
@@peterturner6497 Apparently you have low empathy.
I consider myself a dark empath, but I don’t consider myself a bad person.
As a very empathic person, my biggest fear and struggle is to harm someone by being a dark empath and not knowing I am. It's like fearing to unleash a monster inside you and you don't know if the monster already escaped or you turned into it.
I'm not sure but I think I have dark empath but I'm not using so much occasionally happens when I'm not in a good mood in this periods happen to use the people around me or try to make people to see they need to change this happens only for people I'm more curious and I every time happened to become angry or I feel very tired I try to make sure no one can see ://
You seem to like people in this crazy world, don't you, extrovert? I am an Introvert, the monster in me listen to my commands and activates only when my classmates annoy me.
I'd argue if you're afraid of it, then you aren't it. If you were, you would already be relishing in it and not worry so much about things.
When it comes to empathy, one thing strong empaths fear is hurting others, because hurting someone you care about is tantamount to hurting yourself. If you had these traits to begin with, you wouldn't 'be' afraid of hurting anyone from it, because you wouldn't be feeling anything towards them. It's more about the cognitive aspect and being able to recognise it in others, while feeling absolutely nothing. It's the lack of feeling anything that allows to freely manipulate others, because they don't care if it hurts the person in the long run.
you will know it i am a dark empath that doesent mean i am a bad person but like i am aware of my self of everything i do and how someone might feel dont worry too much i am only ackting like that when things get bad or relly toxic in a way .the point is you will prob know when youre hurtig someone but be aware at all times of everything:3 sorry for bad english hope it helped
Dark empath here and I can say we are very aware of your feelings and others we can sense your emotions and play them against you we enjoy it we don't hurt you for no reason though there's always a reason why we do what we do and we don't have any regrets about it either. But on the other hand we can be loving and forgiving we will do anything for the people we love or like, we ain't bad we just have dark moments.
Almost a perfect video! A person with a disorder does not guarantee acts of her abuse towards others.
I agree with you having a disorder doesn’t automatically mean your going to hurt someone
I HAVE SEEN A DARK EMPATH REVEAL HIMSELF… and it is SO SCARY. I moved across county in the US to work with a guy who I thought was a close friend. He basically slit my throat and has been trying to bury me for the last month since I left the company because I have been speaking up about abusive work practices in the financial services and venture capital industries w.r.t. who actually does the work that provides value to the company. Recent layoffs (like at Coinbase) are not humane!
Are you okay now?
You were talking about meeting a dark empathy and literally didn't describe what he did and instead went to rant about work?
@@TcCT238 she literally said he tried to slit her throat and has been trying to bury her 😐
Sounds like an awesome buddy. I should meet him.
I'm guessing the throat-slitting and burying was metaphorical, I'm still curious about how their behavior adjusts to "dark empathy" or to any other personality disorder (being selfish or callous isn't - by itself - the only valid criteria for diagnosis).
The connecting dots between politics and this video is hysterical
Why is this video unlisted? I thought it was really good and very informative, especially about the narcissists!
It's published now. After reviewing it, we were concern it was a bit.. too out there, so we were debating for a while whether to release it or not. We will monitor the comments. Thanks!
the word narcissists is being used very incorrectly and its insensitive.
@@giraffe3327 Care to elaborate on that?
@@Psych2go Same thing happened to me on that old soul video!!!
@@Psych2go Personally, those who find themselves deeply offended over videos, with DISCLAIMERS for that matter, need to re-evaluate themselves! You guys may not always upload 100% accurate videos, or videos that always click with the viewers, and that’s *okay!* Keep up the good work, I enjoy watching your content! 🤍
The plight of the dark empath is being a trusted confidant of many, but having few, if anyone they’d willingly trust with their heart. Seems like a recipe to possibly either die alone, unhappy, or unhappy and alone.
Dark empath wins. Yes I know one, and they can convince someone to help them utterly crush you while simultaneously making that person believe that they are doing the kindest, most helpful thing in the world for you, while also systematically destroying your relationships with everyone you counted on.
Empathy really feels like that:
Looking at people and knowing, what buttons to push for which result.
It can be used for good.
Often I use it to make people understand their own flaws, so that they can succeed.
If you uplift your surroundings, you uplift yourself.
Always fun to see the right people gaining self esteem.
Dark empathy is totally a thing! Before I had even heard the term I was describing someone I know very well as a dark empath just based on abilities and how that person used the abilities, saying, “she’s an empath, but in a dark way…I would call her a dark empath.” I’m grateful this is being studied because those of us who have to have frequent contact with this personality type need to know what we’re dealing with!
thank you!!!
i am one of them i agree there are bad ppl but me personally im kind good hearted and shi like that im an amazing friend but as soon as someone hurts me i usually firts pile it up then give back all the emotional pain they caused me just i do it in my way thats a bad way tbh but if youre good to me ill be amazing to you too . like i dont cause pain bc of an argumen or disagreement or like a cuss insult etc only if it continues for a longer period of time and i cant ignore it anymore hope that my helped to understand myb idk
@@Nez675 I don't think that's a dark empath.
That's called revenge.
There is two mental conditions. One is kill for pleasure. The other is pleasure to kill the killer. Both of them are possessed of spirits of totally different polarities. Both of them cause harm, but the Universe need balance. Triggering an emphat is the karma on psychopath.
I’m a dark empath and I’m glad it made me realize that but they be exposing our secrets😂
Ultimately it seems like way too often people’s darkness is unaddressed wounds and as such mental illnesses are coping mechanisms to dysfunctional environments. As such perhaps someone understanding this will help them to understand and love themselves without the guilt, pain and shame that certain dynamics put them through. I wish the best to everyone.
This is a really interesting video with an intriguing question - "who is more dangerous?" (out of these four). I have some thoughts...
The problem with this question is that it doesn't give enough consideration to the recipient(s) i.e. the potential victims of the behaviour. I think in reality, the response to the question "who is more dangerous" depends on the unique individual on the other end of it. Everyone has certain 'landing strips' and vulnerabilities that can be picked up on even subconsciously by a potential abuser. An individual's own unique behaviour, attachment style, thought processes, experiences, insecurities etc, play a significant part in the dynamic that ends up emerging in their relationships: Person A could have a disposition leaving them particularly vulnerable to narcissistic abuse, while Person B could be resilient to narcissistic abuse. Just as the personality types in question are (potentially) dangerous for different reasons, the type of people vulnerable to them are so because of particular traits. Additionally, it depends on how/if these personality types are enabled, (by society, system failures, and typically by other people, whether intentional/malicious or not).
It's a very interesting question nonetheless, but I think it's much more complex than simply comparing these personality types directly with each other. It's still very useful though to understand the differences between them, because then you can educate and equip yourself to build resilience to these types where required. I think it's less about "these people are inherently dangerous" and more about "who do these people pose a risk to and why/how?".
Furthermore, I must add that the visual depictions of these people in the art/animation of this video are maybe a bit misguided / one-dimensional? E.g. the psychopath with blood on them.
And as I wrote that last sentence I realized another important thing to consider - the implications of specific language e.g. the difference between referring to someone as "a sociopath" vs as "someone with antisocial personality disorder". The former encouraging solely judgement; the latter encouraging curiousity and understanding.
PS as someone who has experienced an awful lot of narcissistic abuse, I've come to learn through therapy and self-reflection the 'landing strips' I have which attracted such people. Please don't misunderstand this as victim blaming - it's not. There's a clear difference between fault and responsibility. It's never a victim's fault for having been subjected to abuse, but it it their responsibility to heal themselves afterwords, which yeah, sucks and is unfair. But it's still a good thing too, because that means it's within their control.
PPS a silly question for all the weebs out there...
Which one do you think Light Yagami is and why?
Also, if Light didn't ever get the Death Note, why/how/to whom would he have been a danger to?
Light is a Psycopath in my opinion
@@jennisestreaty1928 yeah, I thought so too. Cos his traits are more disguised rather than external (like in the case of someone with antisocial personality disorder)
@@eilishbaird947 yeah i always thought he was either a psychopath or a sociopath, then i realized that i am a sociopath and we don't hide our true nature like Light Yagami does. So he must be a psychopath
I'm no sociopath, but I find it hard to have any sort of regard for others, and I just do destructive stuff without regrets or thinking of how other people will worry about me. It's not something I'm proud of.
Had never heard of the term dark empath - however, I can think of a couple people that fit that description. They have definitely used the phrase "I'm an empath", but I never understood how they could think they are.... Now it makes sense
I may be a dark empath. What I can tell you is I used to be "good empath", but over the years, because a lot of delusions with most every human I started to gather a hate towards humans and then now most contacts I have has "this vengeance/despise" feeling, so I may hurt people, know where it hurts the most to anyone and feel pleasure because I feel like having my personal vendetta against everyone because I despise humans. So... dark empaths are misanthropic empaths.
But I LOVEEEE animals though
Generalizing how you think people treat you stops you from finding connections with anyone at all. There are other weirdos out there who would get you.
Sadly all 4 of these personalities can cause a person pain and can cause a person to have so much pain they committ suicide. Just horrible! Pay attention to the red flags, if they are not consistent,or love bomb you and ghost you and discard you,they are definitely toxic people. Sadly we find out when it's too late and we invested alot of time into that person. Pay attention if they lack empathy and are anti social.
Ok, being anti social doesn't make you a toxic person, shy ppl exist, damn ignorance
i also take exception to your labeling of anti social as part of the dark triad, introverts are not evil, some people are socially awkward and uncomfortable in groups. But they can also be the most loyal, selfless and caring people out there.
to the two of you who replied anti-social doesn't mean introverted. anti-social basically means or can mean anti society or someone who goes against basic societal norms and laws because they don't care. If you want a better explanation a quick search will show a lot of stuff about if you're interested
It's so hard to spot them. A narcissist can hide well as the psychopath and dark empath.
You have to know a Person for a long time to understand that he/She can be Dangerous, but when you'll understand it, it will be probably already too late
When you have been confronted to them several times, you know how to recognize them faster. And if you read and so research about them, you will know exactly what to look at when you meet someone .
@@liliai9559 I realize now I've confronted at least 4 narcissist friends (people I cared)in the past and that at the end left me in aggressive ways as a reaction when I had interrupted their love supply.
I didn't realize they were narcissists then, but I understand it now and their reaction makes sense.
Today I'm dealing with another one, I was suffering because I couldn't figure out why she was a hypocrite but today I realize that she is a narcissist. We had other fights in the past and the results have always been her vomiting on me all the worst things possible because I dared telling her that some behaviors were off. Now after long years made of ghosting and sudden love bombing
I decided to start my no contact treatment last week in response of her ghosting or fake love bombing.
I ask myself why I always attract narcissist people🤔. Maybe I am too empatihic. They always told me that I'm a good person and a great listener. Now I realize they were saying between the lines that I'm a perfect victim for a narcissist...
Anyway she will realize that I spotted her eventually. But not soon. She will throw on me again every negative thing possible, giving me every fault for a destroyed friendship. I have it coming.
Wish me luck 🤞🍀
@@JJShalashaska hope everything will be fine for you. They analysed very well our personality. So you're probably very empathic and not loving yourself enough. You said that person told you very though things and yet you let her come back... don't let anyone talk to you that way or make you lose your temper a lot. Learn to give yourself the attention , love and respect you used to give them. And be careful , dont try to treat them bad for revenge, they ll always can do worse to you cause they got no limits.
@@liliai9559 I guess you're right and I'm trying to do my best for myself.
I just can't manage to be unpolite to people and I'm sorry if they suffer, even if they're shit people.
Anyway, I just hope she'll forget about... I'm almost sure she will.
I don't want to block her because she could see it as an aggression and that could cause her to avenge, trying to damage me.
So I'll just keep being silent 🤗🌈
@@JJShalashaska yes you are right. Just do what s best for you. Good luck 😊
It is important to know that people of these categories arent necessarily bad people because of their characteristics. Its more on the lines of if they think they will benefit they will do it not caring about other peoples losses. What opportunity one deems positive is purely reliant on the rest of their personality and their intelligence. For example one might be a dark empath but still not do immoral things because they fear repercussion. Only if the benefits outweigh the negatives one their own scale (the fulcrum might be far on either side) they will act.
narcissists are definitely bad as they need to put other people down to feel better themselves.
The *Dark Empah* is definitely the most dangerous, they understand your pain, and weaponize it.
So if an empath gets pushed too far by narcissists, do we become dark empaths before we go on a serial killer poisoning bender? Asking for a friend.
"Asking for a friend."
That's what they all say
@@Shironexy That’s a nice little box you have organized that into. Now let’s talk about the real world.
@mellowlikesyou8340 I like your moxy !
We become what we allow ourselves to become. Don't allow yourself to be labelled instead identifying unfavourable personality traits and eliminate them and become the person that lives a more successful life.
@@noOnionswithoutTears If I have upset you I did not mean to and I understand fully the impact these personality types can have on us but I refuse to allow hurtful people to hurt me anymore and they have no more power over me because I wont let them.
Not ma being a Dark Empath.
Well i can honestly say that what they tell is true. When you are one, you will see how people feel, be a master at reading people and how to react and adapt to every problem perfectly. You have hundreds of Masks. And when people suffer, you know how they feel but you won't be able to feel their pain. It's like you're immune to the emotions of others and the only way, to find out how someone feels is by reading their Body language and facial expressions, you're gonna be good at that, dangerously good :)
(By the way i'm not an native speaker so sorry for mistakes)
You're such a Grinchy , Rough skin Hippopotamus admit that 💀
*That's my order "-🥀🕵♂️
Well, all I know is I'm empathetic but I get something out of hearing people's painful experiences especially if I see them as close (whether they see me that way or not). I'm really sure what it is tho or how to describe it.
Best to stay single and not have any close friends. Keep people distant, the world is full of darkness and I want no part of it.
Perfectly said. Don't want nothing to do with the world
this statement makes you sound like somebody with schizoid personality disorder. to see everyone as a threat is unhealthy, too. i used to be that way and now i’ve found two friends who i think i can trust with my life, and who make me see the world as beautiful. if i had given up i would not have found them.
If you don't even let darkness in, how is the light supposed to reach you?
The best course of action is to be careful of those types of people, and once you learn how to spot them to avoid them, you can have close friends and/or a lover that you know aren't toxic. The chance is never 0 that they are actually toxic, but it's low.
That is of course your choice. But keeping out all the bad also keeps out all the good.
@keeptaiwanfree no it's not at all, it's more to do with having met too many people who were not good for me.
As time has gone on, I have started to learn more about myself, my needs and boundaries. That is helping me to move forward. Labelling people doesn't help but being curious and asking why someone has those thoughts is much better.
I know you meant well and I appreciate that. Thank you.
1. 0:44: Sociopath
2. 1:35: Psychopath
3. 2:55: Narcissist
4. 4:16: Dark empath
5. 4:53: Conclusion
I hope this helped!
Nope.
my ex friend (who i am using neutral pronouns for, and withholding their name or any personal details) was a narcissist, constantly critiquing others, feeding off of praise, acting all high and mighty, thinking themselves as the best and if you didn't agree, they'd make sure EVERYONE knew that you were weak and not deserving of praise, attention, and help, among other things. Even worse, they didn't show it at the start. They acted 'normal' and all my teachers said they were the best, and they got the 'good citizen' award. Once they became part of my friend group, they started using me and the rest of my friends, getting praise from us, getting gossip or info from us, (and then later used that to bring others down) but they also introduced me to other people i wouldn't of usually talked to. Then, my sister and I started noticing their narcissistic traits, and decided to break it off. Whenever my sister tried to talk to them about breaking it off and leaving the friend group, they would try to switch the conversation around, or physically walked away. One day, they told us that they were kicking us out of the group, and started telling our BEST FRIENDS (who we have known for YEARS) how toxic we were to the group, how my sister was antisocial and how I always talked about my condition (I have a chronic illness called Systemic Juvenile Idiopathic Arthritis, and because of the treatments and pain, I now have PTSD) and my friends believed it. We couldn't talk back and explain how they were a narc, (narcissist, just to save time) because they physically stopped us from talking to our friends, restraining us back and just getting our friends to walk away. Eventually, we were able to talk, and started an argument. I was yelling and screaming at them, telling my friends that they were a narc and THEY were the toxic one. My friends almost believed it, when the narc said that i was being overly emotional, and then they walked away, and my friends followed. Eventually, after a few months, my friends FINALLY believed my sister and I, (kinda) and got back together with us. (it helped that we went into high school, and the narc was going to a different school) my friends are still friends with the narc, and still bring them up in conversation sometimes, but then move the conversation along to something else. They still don't know that the narc is a narc, and i think it's pointless to try and convince them. (If any of my friends are reading this, hi, I told you so.)
Sorry to hear you had to go through all that. Definitely sounds stressful. I feel like because you and your sister had each other made the whole situation a little bit easier to handle. Idk I could be wrong
My friend is friend with a narc / dark empath
This sounds like in grade school.
sure, having my sister helped, but it also kind of made it worse, as things that the narc did to my sister, i felt too, and vice versa. if the narc said i wasn't allowed to do something, my sister was not able to either, and vice versa.
it was in grade school, in 7th grade. but even because it was in grade school, it didn't make it any better. in high school, you can just not talk to the person, and not a lot of people would care. you also have many different classes where you might not see the person. in grade school, you gotta spend recess with them, every single class with them, etc.
ADDRESSED TO PSYCH2GO:
Before watching the video: That thumbnail and title worried me so I clicked the video and went straight to the comments to check for updates. I have been actively learning about the different stigmas attached to those with certain personality traits or personality disorders.
After watching the video: Was there a better way to present this information? This "contest" and "ranking" bothers me. Also based on the comments, I think it doesn't hurt to add more in video disclaimers about how these disorders are rare, how young people in general struggle with empathy because the prefrontal cortex is not fully developed which helps people control their impulses, which is why these diagnoses often happen in adulthood unless someone has committed a crime.
I myself have dealt with and will likely continue to interact with all types of people with a variety of personalities, including people with personality disorders. I do not believe that anyone can be considered more dangerous than the other because it depends on who the victim is. For example, if you know that those with narcissistic personality disorder crave attention, especially negative attention because it feeds their ego to know they have power over someone, when they wrong you, you can use this knowledge to feel empowered to ignore them and dismiss them, so they can't feed off your energy.
Also, they're personality disorders, not pokemon cards, no two psychopaths are the same because that's not the only thing about them.
You wouldn't say all schizophrenic people are dangerous or that all of them hate their hallucinations/delusions because there's more to them tban that.
Finally, after reading through so many threads full of people stroking their egos I finally find an intelligent and rational comment... (and the is coming from a narcissistic, sociopathic, psychopathic, antisocial dark empath who uses my cool mysterious powers for good when I'm not destroying my enemies with my dangerous machiavellian genius mind) you should feel special and honored to receive such praise from someone as special and unique as I am... lmfao! 🤣 JK, seriously though, these people need to get out of the house and take a walk through the park or something. Everyone is so full of themselves nowadays, including myself to be totally honest. But it is truly refreshing to find such a down to earth, and logical prospective among such "special" people. May I ask what your profession is?
Here I thought I was crazy.
That I can understand, but not feel someone else's emotions.
Just hearing that's a real thing, manipulative motives of the dark empath aside, that's pretty revelatory for me.
I’m happy we have the dark empath term now. I feel like being empathic is super painful and some of them kind of evolve this psychopath type shell to stay safe. And for the longest time I didn’t really know what to call that.
In case you were curious how this works no we are essentially physocpaths with empathy. We may break the law under the radar or manipulate but you don’t turn into a dark empath in adulthood it happens from childhood trauma and neglect. However we learned the importance of things like taking care of our friends however the problem is damn near ever single day to day interaction is manipulative. Like not a single interaction isn’t some subconscious manipulation. So there’s that.
There are always options to progress into a positive personality version. Its done by facing the trauma and learning to manage the unconscious bubbling thought processes and identify which of those thoughts and reactions come from those previous social conditioning programmes 'that were not yours by choice' ,and eventually delete the importance by ignoring them and allowing them to fade.
Being hurt by people earlier in life, even parents or lovers, including sexual abuse or worse, is no excuse to continue the abuse cycle. Its done by making a code of morals that suit what you would rather be and working towards it over many years..
Otherwise the behaviour is just reactive and self serving. That will always leave an empty void and will reap exactly what is sown over time..
I grew up in a house full of sociopathic narcissists!
I am estranged from my mother and sisters.
I'm proud that you're away from them and hope you have a blast without thrm and if you do want revenge, I hope you succeed and it never affects yiu negatively!
@@twentyonetortas5921 shut up your mother you Hippopotamus 💀🥀
oh that's rough. sociopathic form of anything is bad
people confuse empathy and sympathy. Empathy is rare and is kind of comprehension that does not rely on something consciously observable. Sympathy is feeling with. You can be sympathetic without being empathic. Most people are like that, they project themselves onto other people without understanding.
I didn’t really know of dark empaths until watching this video, and yet it makes sense that they’d exist, since light always casts shadow, and thus shadow always contrasts light. For each thing that exists, an equal and opposite also exists. 👥
That alone is food for thought, and a useful thing for any highly sensitive person to know. I’m grateful in having a strong sense of empathy for others; what they feel, I feel, and the thought of intentionally hurting others for my own personal gain is too gut-churning to even contemplate… 😰
I guess this makes me the “good” kind of empath, huh? I want what’s best for everyone, including myself, and I’m all for meeting my own needs, as long as no-one is harmed in any way, and for sharing with those who have less, especially if there’s plenty to spare. 😊
Sounds like the prototypical INFJ.
@@EMichaelBall I’m more of an ambivert (MBTI tests almost always say either INFJ or ENFP, though sometimes ENFJ or INFP), but for a while I believed myself to be an introvert; it’s been a long road to realising I’m at my best when interacting with others and helping them to be at their best too.
Friendship, teamwork, and community are where it’s at, and that alone makes it all worthwhile. 😄
No time stamps, fine. I will do it myself
0:44 sociopath
1:36 psychopaths
2:57 narcissists
4:20 dark empath
Love the comment section!!! Definitely think it depends on experience & there is no such thing as “more dangerous” than one or the other like some viewers explained in their comments.
A psycho IS not necessary a criminal. There are lot of psychopaths who have important social status and power in society.
After my marriage fell apart, the marriage counselor (who had diagnosed my ex husband and couldn’t tell me due to privacy reasons) handed me a book and told me to read it because it might explain a lot for me. The title of that book was The Sociopath Next Door. He was a horrible person and ruined me for relationships for probably the rest of my life. He goes through people’s lives like a wrecking ball. I really thought his mission was to kill my actual soul. He was not physically violent but what he did to my mind, spirit and financial existence, I will probably never fully get over. So to me, the answer is Sociopath.
The Dark Empath always has control because it’s in your subconscious, and when you “show” emotion, you’re just making yourself seem like you’re feeling that emotion to get the outcome you desire. Sometimes knowingly, sometimes not. It’s like having the good part of you driving the car, but the dark part has the GPS. And it’s not that you can’t feel, it’s that you don’t feel naturally, most of the time you have to force emotions out of yourself, usually around other people to benefit you in someway. In between interactions is where all you do is battle between your thoughts and actions because, most of the time you’re not aware when the dark part is in control until reflecting back on it later in the day.
Dark empathy, is an example of someone being extremely good at understanding social cues and intentions. They have got to the root of how they’re own brain works and came to be wired the way it is and thus, they use this information to accurately create emotions in others beneficial to their own cause. The main difference between this and a sociopath though is the idea that the dark empath knows what they want and display all characteristics of a normal person with good qualities and genuine intentions. Whether this is a lie or an aspect of self loathing is truly what makes the person dangerous. As, if someone can convince you they are good people without the external flags of a sociopath, they are more likely to succeed in keeping you oblivious of their intentions while simultaneously engaging in morally wrong behavior.
Stf your dark empathy mother you Hippopotamus 💀🤡
Dark empaths sound like politicians and dictators.
How about option 5: the parental figures or sources of developmental trauma of all of these that keep cranking out maladapted adults who only know how to manipulate others to get their basic needs met? I'd like to nominate that one as the most dangerous.
I feel like the "paternal figure" isn't the the danger in and of itself. Because most bad parents probably either have one of these or simply believe that the best will come of it. When a fire starts, it is because all the nessisary things were put in place. Sometimes the fire is started by other fire, but it is just as often started by mundane things that went toogether in just the wrong way.
Most underrated comment. You're too smart for a TH-cam comment.
Yeah, inter-generational abuse being passed down the line is fucking insidious hey.
I was friends with a girl who was like a mix of a psychopath, narcissist, and a Dark Epath. She also has this creepy thing where she likes every guy she sees and she takes pics of them without their knowledge. I was walking with her own day and she cut me off, whipped out her homeland took a picture of a college guy. This was when we were 12. Not to mention the fact she lied to me about very personal things that affected the way I acted and caused my friends to leave me and flock to her, once she started spreading rumors.
Sounds like my ex wife😂
It was a child who couldn't cope well and probably was in need of help, not all the things you listed. This video is about grown ups.
Why do I doubt this story?
Wasn't it YOU that had no confidence?
Wasn't it SHE that had confidence and you were jealous of that?
I rather think it was the case.
Get some help.
@@rogerrabbito4517 2 questions. How many times a week do you say “ma lady” and how big is your fedora collection? 😂🤣😂🤣
@@rogerrabbito4517 Interesting you take that viewpoint. But this story wasn't about confidence. It was about how someone's actions affected this person's life. Don't insult someone if you don't know the full story.
I've always held that in these cases, the narcissist is the least capable of harm, as they're inherently defensive. This makes them less capable of using their powers offensively and instead makes them shackled to protecting their self-image. The others can more effectively use their condition as a weapon to manipulate others, in conscious and calculated ways, while a narcissist will often be bound by their own need to protect their self-image.
The tier list goes like this.
1. Psychopath
2. Dark Empath
3. Sociopath
4. Narcissist
I think narcissists can go great lengths(do anything) to protect their Social status and self image. Most Narcissists also don't Possess mental faculties and Information intake of the other three making them relatively stupid and Stupidity is dangerous. So, the order goes like this:
1. Psychopaths
2. Dark Empath
3. Narcissists
4. Sociopaths
Amber Heard
@@Sumirevins NPD doesn’t make you stupid dude/
The narcissist can cause people to committ suicide it's been a proven fact,their manipulating and mind games are the worst and some do use physical harm,they can be physically and mentally and emotionally and verbally abusive. These people are just as damaging and can do great damage and literally destroy people's lives.
I feel like I’m between a psychopath and a dark empath. I can have the emotions needed for the time being to connect with a person and have them listen to me. I tend to be more dry emotionally but I know exactly how someone is feeling because I’ve been through the same thing. Sometimes when I feel like I’m actually being evil, it’s like I know how they feel because I’ve felt it, I know what made me better during that thought, so I tell them that. It feels evil to me because I’m not actually having their emotion, I just can fake it from previous experience in that situation. I get them vulnerable when I’m not fully sharing the same emotion.
I know that in that time I could say some horrible things that could ruin their lives and traumatize them. I always choose not to. But I guess it’s weird for me that it has to be a conscious decision to be a decent human. It seems so easy to everyone else.