yiga members despawn after certain conditions are met once kohga is defeated and will only respawn when you start the dlc quest and will despawn again after you complete said quest they will never respawn again after that
Explaining Ganondorf’s round ears with science: it’s a sex linked recessive trait that doesn’t have a chance to mutate because only one Gerudo male is born every 100 years 😅
another weird detail i don't see mentioned often is how ganondorf's ears become more pointy in contact with the triforce, including to the point that in ocarina of time around his ears go from round to pointy after the 7 year time skip
Also worth to mention: The Hylian Ears exist for the purpose that the Hylians can recieve messages from the Gods. Maybe Ganondorf somehow decided to not get these ears while still being an Fetus and Therefore he wouldnt recieve any divine messages. Maybe it is Because Ganondorf is not evil because he got jealous, he is evil Because he is born as someone evil, and Therefore he maybe refuses on Purpose to even listen to what the Gods want to say to him.
@@Drakolyr Exactly this. In Tears of the Kingdom, this is ancient Gerudo daddy Ganondorf. He was sealed away thousands of years ago. He's not the Gerudos who evolved into getting the pointy ears.
correction about the Zoras, both types appear in the Oracle games, mainly Oracle of Ages which establishes the aggresive Zoras as River Zora and the friendly Zora as Sea Zora and that they are seperate species
@@windhunter7 Personally i take the Historia with a grain of salt alongside the Zelda Encyclopedia and Creating a Champion books as all 3 books provide information which outright _contradicts_ one another making it near impossible to have a consistent consensus of which Lore is accurate across each book and which one has been outright retconned in favor of new information. Personally i simply don't accept any information which is specifically revealed in either of the 3 books (aside from the timeline mind you).
@@windhunter7 Hyrule Historia and Encyclopedia are not canon, just the interpretations (most purely headcanon) of Shogakukan's writters based on stuff they saw in the games + bits of info devs shared. It's even stated on them that these are not the final words and stuff there can be changed over time.
A personal theory about the gorons: they reproduce by budding, just like some corals. That "Gorons grow out of rocks" thing was just those guys not wanting to explain Goron reproduction to Link, something like the tale of the stork for kids. Also, their hair feels like steel wool to the touch.
@@sboinkthelegday3892 Not really sure what the message here was, but I'll address what I am able to. 1. Most fashion was created by the wealthy and/or resource producers and then became a social norm through that culture. For example, in England, high heels and stockings were a male nobility thing until these goods were more widely distributed and women decided that they also wanted slim looking longer legs, then the men largely decided that it was more of a 'feminine' thing as it became a staple amongst women, who valued buying it over the men. (There's obviously more to it, but that's the truncated version.) 2. Gender and sex have always had distinctions in culture, but these are defined differently in many cultures, hence why such a concept of 'masculine' and 'feminine' traits exists seperately from physically being male or female. 'Gender roles' as we commonly call them now sprung from this concept. Not sure what any of this has to do with American economics, and a video game lore comment section may not be the best place to debate the intricacies of economics, politics, or religion. 3. In Japanese, there are clear male and female terms and even some honorifics, and gender is played with quite a bit in the culture, but I haven't seen anything in the games that suggests this type of wordplay happening in the games, though I haven't seen all of the games' Japanese text and haven't played the latest two games at all, so I may be wrong on that point somewhere. At the very least, it doesn't come up that often. Either way, the subject can get confusing indeed, but I don't think there's any taboo around it nowadays. Maybe a few generations ago, sure, but not so much now. 4. I don't think Gorons can produce pollen as they are rock based, but a similar effect from a certain type of mineral could cause a change in them causing them to be able to reproduce. Who knows? Anyway, I hope this was entertaining and helpful. These subjects can be discussed lightly and in good humor and faith, but you often won't get that after typing words in full caps and using forceful linguistic techniques that comes across as yelling from the reader's perspective. That aside, your use of punctuation is solid and I appreciate that. You could probably write some papers or perhaps even books about the topics you're passionate about.
I thought they did the old fashioned way. We see Rosso in ALBW who may be part Goron part Hylian. In Twilight Princess they may also drink milk which is something mammals do.
@jacksonvoet8312 That's not true. Corals, which can also reproduce by budding, do not have a stimuli that trigger them to reproduce asexually. It's simply part of their life-cycle that when they reach a certain size, they bud and reproduce. Maybe Big Goron was the Papa for a bunch of the smaller Gorons? 😂
Actually in the Oracle Games are two Types of Zoras, the Hostile and the Friendly ones present, so they didnt went extinct or anything, they are just a Different type
with the oracle games taking place in different lands than hyrule, that fits in pretty well with the "domains outside of hyrule" piece of lore. Could be formulated into something like: The Downfall Timeline imprisoning war caused the OoT Zoras Domain to be permanently destroyed, forcing the remaining Zora to live in the rivers waters, and over time adapt to that environment, becoming river Zora. With other Domains being unaffected since that war took place in hyrule.
@@DJCheese77 Not completely, in Four Swords Adventures, the one game everyone forgets (eventhough it doesnt deserve that) which takes place after Twilight Princess Officially, you can meet hostile Zoras still, and in Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks there are also some form of Hostile Zoras - Technically at least but I think they go by a Different name
One thing to note about Gorons, I believe you can find at least one Goron in Gerudo Town during BOTW. Which, whether that means that Goron is female or not, it at the very least means that the Gerudo don’t recognize that Goron as a voe. Idk if this means that specific Goron is female, or if Gorons don’t have different sexes, or if the Gerudo simply don’t care about the gender of Gorons for one reason or another, but it’s another interesting tidbit to add to the idea that Gorons can be female
I believe if you talk to that particular Goron he says something like, "Why did they let me in here?" This heavily implies that this particular Goron is a boy. I think one of the Gerudo guards, or maybe another character around Gerudo Town, says that because the Gerudo don't know how to classify Gorons they let all of them in by default.
They're probably genderless are there are dialogues in Tears of the Kingdom which suggest Gorons are literally _"born from rocks"_ in Death Mountain. If i recall there's a quest where 2 old Gorons want to reach a cavern in Death Mountain where according to them "they were born long ago" suggesting that Gorons are in fact genderless rock people who happen to birthed by the mountain itself.
@@javiervasquez625 well, the "born from rocks" thing clearly isn't the whole story. Yunobo has ancestors. That requires something biological. The fact that his blood is the same as Daruk's, so he can use Daruk's Protection, means that he is definitely a real biological descendant thereof, meaning the ground thing is only part of it.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 True yet i always saw that as less of a genetic "bloodline" of gorons directly birthing children through generations and more so different "breeds" of Gorons who happen to be different to the others allowing them to consider past Gorons of their own breed as their "ancestors" (think of the Warrior Namekians from Dragon Ball who are considered a seperate breed to the peaceful Namekians without a genetic link aside from belonging to the same race). Since we never see such evidence for "Goron mating" to be possible the way Hylian-Gerudo mating is i feel the evidence is convincing to suggest Gorons are in fact a genderless byproduct of Death Mountain creating them as newborn babies ex nihilo.
@@javiervasquez625 well, as I said, Yunobo literally contains the genetics of Daruk. Something on Daruk's body made a son, and something on that son's body made Yunobo.
I always thought Gorons ‘budded’ off the backs of the adults. That Rocky outcropping? The older ones have holes on the rocks. My head canon is that those are the exact rocks that new gorons were born from
Well that just triggered my tryptophobia in a unique way But yeah, I agree and assumed the same. Might also explain how gorons choose a chief - the one who bore the most children would be a natural choice for leader in their community, a community which has very little social stratification.
If the pointy ears genes being obtained theory is correct, then ganondorf not having them makes perfect sense because, remember, he is a 10,000 year old corpse kept alive purely through dark magic.
I don't think the Modern Gerudo have pointed ears due to Hylians, its more or less due to their increased connection to the gods, they clearly worship Hylia with a statue in the town. Also, ancient Hylians had even longer ears due to how close they were with the Zonai; literal decendants of the gods. Ganondorf didnt get the memo because he's an incarnation of evil, his ears are closed to the gods and thus rounded.
So are you are saying his ears are closed to the zonai? I mean, yea but not in that sence. They (hylians) are closer to them because of genetics. It would be a literal sence, because they are their decendants. Gerudo have their own haratage. He didnt get them because when he was born, they didnt breed with hylians yet.
@@jordanekl5383 According to Shad in Twilight Princess (if my memory doesn't fail me) Hylians have long ears to "listen to the message from the gods" and in Ocarina of Time when we first meet Ganondorf he sports _rounded ears_ before magically transforming into pointed ones after he obtains the Triforce of Power. It's most likely that the reason why the Gerudo in the Era of the Wild have developed pointed ears is due to their own personal connection to the gods after abandoning their past evil ways following Ganondorf and becoming a nobler and pure hearted tribe seeking a peaceful relationship with the other tribes of Hyrule.
@javiervasquez625 Ganon ends up possessing power that came directly from the literal gods themselves. And hylians are decendants from the reincarnation of the godess hylia. Two different reasons altogether.
@javiervasquez625 Also, this makes me wonder if you believe in the bibles words being 100% fact as well... Like, do you believe that half the world will be Thanos snapped away and athat there is a literal hell that will open up on earth?
@@jordanekl5383 yeah, pointed ears are a gift to the Hylians because pointed ears are to better hear the gods. Gerudo back in Oot seemed more like Aetheists, but by the time of Botw, they have a form of religious belief.
6:20 I think the new pointy ears are meant to be a reference to that random OoT NPC fact about "being able to hear the Gods better" with them. Meaning the Gerudo got a redemption in BotW and that's pretty neat :)
Observed by the Golden Goddesses who determine wether the Link cat is alive in one timeline or dead in the other one. Guess Din must have fallen asleep when she was she supposed to see the cat in the Downfall Timeline.
Fun fact, Deku Scrubs haven't existed in a 3d Zelda game since Majora's Mask. After Windwaker, they've been replaced with Koroks and Octoroks. They're also my favorite Zelda race, so it's a shame they haven't been in any modern title.
For real same for the Skullkids, Minish, Oocca, Anoukis, Kikwis, Mogmas and Parellas all forgotten to shove in the same races over and over again... (sigh) ¿Why can't you bring old races back Nintendo??
@@javiervasquez625 yes!! At least the ones that appeared more than once, but I'd prefer all of them! From what I heard, there was a possibility of Minish coming back in BotW, but didn't get in. We need more of them all!
@@Mari_Izu As i understand it Koroks _are_ Kokiris after they evolved in the Great Sea meanwhile the Deku Scrubs seemingly became extinct in the Adult Timeline despite the Deku Tree himself been around all the way into the Era of the Wild making one wonder if the Korok may just have replaced the Deku as a new seperate "plant race" appart from the original.
@@javiervasquez625I just got a bit of mental vertigo imagining the respective ages of the two Deku Trees that we have met. If the Sprout survived (and thrived) all the way through tens of thousands of years, just how old WAS the Great Deku Tree, you know?? His lifetime must have spiralled back into the mists of prehistory.
About the triforce shards: don't forget that the original Zelda 1 had you collecting the shattered triforce of wisdom. So the only triforce part not shattered yet is power. Wonder if they'll do anything with that in the future.
That should really have been the main Quest of Tears of the Kingdom as we learn through the main story that the so called "secret stones" are in fact the splintered shards of the Triforce of Power which the Zonai tribe created for the precise purpose of preventing Ganondorf's from reclaiming it not knowing that his very soul was connected to it leading to the Zonai been corrupted by the stones and leading to their extinction. Imagine how cool it would have been had the plot involved collecting the shards of the Triforce of Power in order to dispell it's connection to Ganondorf and so purify it from his control once and for all.
@@javiervasquez625 I totally missed that it was the triforce of power being shattered. Guess that means we just might have something more to do with it in the future then.
One thing about the past Gerudo with round ears: in the Child timeline with Twlight Princess the people of Ordon and a few citizens like Aisha have round ears. Ordon looks to be a region of land that is separate from Hyrule by a large valley. It could be stated that Ordon was never a part of Hyrule's orginal territory but was made one through good relations between the people of another neighboring country. Aisha said she grew up in the mountains of Snowpeak which is on the complete upper edge of the kingdom. Her and her father could've been from another country as well but came to Hyrule to live for whatever purpose. As for the Gerudo, the desert doesn't have an actual end to it so they could have came from the far West past the Desert Colossus. According to the timeline they left Hyrule to lobe in the Desert of Dought. They're also one of the only races that can use elemetal sorcery(Kome and Kotake) and nobody says anything about Urbosa's thunder.
Impas are all just part of a biggggg family. So big, that it existed before Hyrule. Thousands of years before Hyrule, back when the Humans were in the sky, and even before.
Impa deserves it mainly because she is often our only access to the Sheikah in any given game. She's like the mushroom growing out of a much deeper mycelium. By examining how Impa is expressed in each game, you can then consider how the hidden influence of the Sheikah is felt from title to title.
Great video as always man! Just a couple of things I want to mention: 2:33 - They only reason that branch exists that way is because they couldn´t find any other way to fit the older games in the timeline. Originally, it is highly likely that the intent was for the Adult Timeline to have lead to ALTTP (Despite the many, many contradictions OOT had to the lore of ALTTP, as OOT was made to be a re-telling of the Imprisoning War from ALTTP), since Ganon was sealed by the sages within the Dark World. But then, TWW was released, making it impossible for ALTTP to be in that branch (which was already iffy given the contradictions. OOT was more of a hard reboot of the series which took the best elements from the past games to make the game we know today) When comparing that is said in the book to both ALTTP and OOT, they purposefully omit key information and move events around to try to fit that narrative, which simply does not work and goes against the games themselves. 3:50 - I have no idea why they made that change, since the oracle game's ending has Link sailing away from Hyrule to train on the same boat we later see him on in LA as he return from his training back to Hyrule. Encyclopedia (released a few years before LA Remake), also can´t seem to make up its mind on if its the same or a different hero (same with Zelda). That book is a nightmare for the lore of the series. 5:44 - Gonna disagree here too. The whole idea that FSA's Ganondorf is a reincarnation was, again, only a book thing made up by the writters. The placement of FSA is proved wrong by the game itself, which placed it immediately after Four Swords, with no time jump whatsoever, as the people believed peace had returned to Hyrule following the re-sealing of Vaati, until Dark Clouds covered Hyrule (the start of FSA). It's the same Link and Zelda in both games. Aonuma also said upon the release of FSA that both games were thought to have been the "Earliest Tales" at the time, that is until the release of TMC and SS. AONUMA: "The GBA Four Swords Zelda is what we’re thinking as the oldest tale in the Zelda timeline. With this one on the GameCube [(FSA)] being a sequel to that, and taking place sometime after that." When it comes to Ganondorf or Ganon, he has died many times in the series, but the point of him is that he always returns, with a vengeance. MIYAMOTO: Even though Ganon is defeated time and time again, he is evil incarnate and will come back time and time again, with a vengeance. Each time, when the world is blanketed in evil, a young boy and girl will be born. When Ganon is killed, he does not reincarnate into another version of Ganondorf, but is instead revived, either by himself (his return in TWW was called a revival, as he was sent to "Beyond the Underworld" by the sages in OOT, also called a "Dark World" by Zelda), or through rituals such as in TAOL with his minions seeking to sprinkle Link's Blood (the blood of the one who killed him) on his ashes, or Twinrova seeking to light the three flames and sacrifice Zelda to revive him in the oracle games. Even in TP he died multiple times, and was always reborn/revived (when stabbed by the sages and revived by the Triforce, when sent to the Twilight Realm as he became a flaming spirit of Malice and then revived into the world of Light, killed by Link when he was transformed into Dark Beast Ganon as he became the flame spirit again and then was revived when he killed Midna, and finally killed by Link with the Master Sword, but he would innevitable return, as he promised to both Link and Zelda before his death. Even Hyrule Warriors which is set long in the future after Twilight Princess alludes to that Ganon being the same one from TP, even wearing an armor very similar to that from TP, with even longer hair as time had passed). The point being that, if he will just reincarnate into a completely separate Ganon, then there would be no need to revive him. Even for TOTK there is very strong evidence that suggests that it is still the same Ganondorf from OOT. both BOTW and CAC made it very clear that Calamity Ganon was Ganon from OOT, who became the calamity after many, many revivals. The history of these conflicts was recorded in the Forgotten Temple, a temple which existed since before the era of the Zonai, as they built a chamber into the pre-existing temple. And then we have Ganondorf's design, who is the only gerudo of his entire tribe who has the classic amber eyes and round ears of the era of Ocarina of Time, whereas all the other Gerudo have green eyes and pointy ears. That was a very clear distinction, which went though multiple itterations and design processes. As to why he doesn´t seem to care about seeking the Triforce... Bad writting I suppose, it just didn´t matter for this game, he probably forgot, who knows. Same thing happens with Vaati between TMC and FS, he seems like a completely different character altogether, but we know it is the same character. 11:05 - The Goron quote is in the 64DREAM magazine from April 1999, Page 95. It also has very interesting details regarding the Gerudo always having pure Gerudo offspring regardless of the race of the father, and confirming the death of Ruto's mother.
Love and agree with everything you wrote above except on the current Ganondorf from Tears of the Kingdom been the exact same one from past games given how weird and inconsistent it is for him to neither _remember_ any of the battles he's fought countless of times across several different timelines with different incarnations of Link and Zelda since Ocarina of Time while also showing no interest in obtaining the omnipotent Triforce when it's power is clearly above the nagatama inspired secret stones of the Zonai tribe. To me this seems like apparent evidence that Aonuma, Fujibayashi and possibly even Miyamoto himself have finally relented on the reincarnation subject and at last confirmed Ganondorf to also be a part of a _reincarnation cycle_ like the many other characters we've seen across the series ranging from Link to Zelda, Epona, Malon, Talon, Ingo, Gorman, Syrup the witch, the Happy Mask Salesman, Anju, Mamamu Yan, ??? (hand in the toilet), Mutoh, Mutoh's carpenter apprentices, Dampe the gravdigger, Guru-guru the organ grinder, Tingle, Sturgeon, Carlov and the 3 oracles among a few others. Since having a Ganondorf with absolutely no explanation for what can only be described as sudden chronic amnesia comes off as completley unbelievable on a narrative level i'm forced to embrace this matter as undeniable proof of Nintendo confirming Ganondorf's reincarnation as a natural phenomenon of the Zelda reincarnation cycle very much like every other character listed above.
I have something to say that nobody else has considered. Zelda managed to duplicate one of the secret stones, she took Rauru's stone and then went back in time and Rauru still had his stone and she did too, so that implies that she duplicated one of them.
Regarding the Zora/Rito coexistence in BotW/TotK, with it being largely soft-agreed that the timelines were somehow converged by this point, I see two possible explanations: 1) The worlds got fully blended together into a singular one and history was adapted to fit this "new" combined timeline. In this case, when the world got flooded for a few centuries and everyone went to live on the mountains/islands, the River and Sea Zora diverged even further than in the Oracle games. I believe the Sea Zora would have evolved to dwell deeper beneath the waves, whereas the River Zora became birbs-with their animosity towards Hylians being mirrored by Revali's standoffishness in BotW and AoC (even if the latter isn't considered canon, same as base HW, as far as I know). Then, when the sea somehow drained, the Sea Zora would have once more had to revert to their shallow-dwelling natures, and over time adapted to a freshwater environment to rebuild Zora's Domain. Meanwhile, the Rito... kept being birbs, but the avian traits became increasingly pronounced over time, with them becoming increasingly feathered across their entire bodies, likely to shield them from the cold. 2) A parallel-yet-separate Hyrule (or a version far enough into the future that the previous timelines turn from history to myth) got all three timelines smooshed into it, with specific things popping out without fundamentally changing the world itself. Basically HW (despite it being non-canon). Zora and Rito both come through, establish populations, then adapt to their new homes over the course of a few centuries. Quick and easy, if a bit convenient. Personally, although the end result is the same, I prefer the former just because it seems like a more fun idea to play around with. Honestly, that explanation could easily be the case even within Wind Waker itself, with the Zora tribes diverging-some stayed in the shallows, before eventually going onto land and evolving into the Rito, while others retreated further into the depths and remained Zora. The sage we saw would have likely been one of the shallows-dwelling Zora, if Medley is to share a direct lineage with her as most have interpreted.
Hyrule Warriors. That what put them all together. However uncanon that Nintendo thinks it is, it actually has to be canon for the Zelda timeline to work. And thus I consider HW canon.
but everything returned to normal afterwards meaning that even if it was canon it wouldn't be why the timelines merged infact I say it happens after the merging@@Hyrule_Historian3113
I think Gorons are just sexless rock people. They aren't male, they're just masculine. Like how in Steven Universe, they're sexless gem people who are feminine, but they aren't female.
Makes sense for a species that is born by crawling out of rock like TotK reveals. They are all siblings born of the earth mother with certain "older brothers" watching out for the young ones. Maybe they use male pronouns because they themselves don't produce offspring.
that's exactly what the Canon says about them. Gorons are completely sexless, and any perceived gender identity as people know it is either assumed, or Gorons just happen to tend toward masculine gender expressions. It's why, despite being masculine presenting, Gorons are openly allowed into Gerudo town, because technically they are not male or men and therefore are not banned from entry.
3:56 I think Nintendo swapped Link’s Awakening and the Oracle games in their timeline placements to eliminate the possibility/fan theory that Link died in Link’s Awakening.
I once saw art of Nabooru giving child Link a big smooch on the cheek, which is a much cuter promise for her to grant to a little kid. Still would be something she would want to do to a handsome guy too! Also, I think of the Triforce as both matter and energy, the building blocks of reality that the physical world and the laws of physics are rooted to. So sure it can be broken and fused together as long as its not destroyed and the world will still function.
The Triforce has also been hinted to be the 3 Golden Goddesses _themselves_ as shown during Lanayru's story about the Fused Shadow where we're shown 3 goddesses literally *fusing* to create the Triforce. Thusly one may argue that the reason why the Triforce can change into so many shapes is because the goddesses have the ability to change their own appeareance given their divine omnipotent nature.
Technically, how the multiplayer functionality works in Tri Force Heroes seems to imply that there is a multiverse. It's hard to explain so simply put it the three Links that appear in that game are all real Links that come from different realities based on the players own universe or whatever that can join someone with a green Link's game to become red or blue Link, but can also become green Link's themselves (in one's own universe I think).
The multiverse is somewhat proven with A Link between Worlds introducing Ravio, Hilda and Yuga as alternate versions of Link, Zelda and Ganondorf respectively so it's most likely the case that there are other such parallel dimensions where other such versions of Link and company exist.
Aside from how the multiplayer works, I think they just came from different lands and also had the "courageous ones" atributes: sideburns, ponty ears (Hytopia, like various lands outside Hyrule, has people with round ears) and hair side parted hair. It's a funny game, so the coincidence of having other two dudes looking similar is funnier than just being alternate realities. As all Toon Links look the same, that's probably why they choose this design instead of repeating ALBW's one, so it's easier to justify them using the same model with different colors.
I learned a few things, but a few notes on a couple of these. We have seen proof of foreign, OoT-style Zora before Tears of the Kingdom, in Oracle of Ages. That game is perhaps the only one to feature both Green and Blue Zora, explaining them as River and Ocean Zora respectively. In terms of breaking the Triforce into pieces, that is a concept as old as the series itself, with the original Famicom/NES game's backstory saying that Princess Zelda took the Triforce of Wisdom and broke it into pieces to hide them
I personally agree there’s no reason that Gerudo people can’t occasionally name their son Ganondorf just like with Zelda and Link who use the same explanation. In fact darkness being a natural and necessary counterbalance to light makes for a lot more interesting plot implications as well as parallels to eastern religions
2:12 Also, though not intentional on Nintendo's part, this is technically the first time we're explicitly shown that women born into the Hylian royal family are traditionally named Zelda with each successive generation, inadvertently tying into the cycle of reincarnation set in motion by Demise. For all we know, this could even be a Zelda from another point in the Fallen timeline, which is fun to theorize about.
I have to say ever since you aired out your feelings, your voice has that familiar bounce that it used to have when I first found your channel. I’m so glad that you were pursuing things the way that you want to. Loved this video.
In the goron fact I thought you were gonna point out how gorons were allowed to enter gerudo town, but there might've been an explanation about it that I've never heard of lol
Here's the kicker. They were allowed in Gerudo Town in BotW (Lyndae and Strade got in, confused as to why they were allowed) but in TotK Kairo tries to enter and is banned. He says that his Goron friends got it, and the guards just deny that it ever happened...
I thought it was initially because Gorons are considered genderless to most other races so they get a pass. But after TotK, I wonder if it's been retconned that they're all male now.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 Gorons dont have a gender, this is very obviously prooven. Are the gerudo going to discriminate just because they assumed they have a whang dangle?? No, they are good people.
You could also argue that the scenario with Link saving an older princess Zelda in AoL was somewhat repeated in TotK. TotK also takes place roughly 5-6 years after BotW, and by the end we save Zelda who has been stuck as a dragon for tens of thousands of years, and according to Zelda it was as though she was asleep, so you could technically argue she was asleep during that time. Only difference being that it's the same Zelda and not a different one. Most likely just a fun coincidence though.
9:36 Bandit: Tingle, Tingle! Kooloo-Limpah! 9:39 *Tingle has entered chat.* 9:42 Tingle: _THIEF!_ Whelp… I guess they don’t call you “Bandit” for nothing, eh? 🤷🏻♂️
There is no canonical support for Link and Zelda being siblings. The English translation of A Link to the Past took a lot of creative liberties. Translations during the early 90s were incredibly rough especially for more story driven games that were releasing at the time. Some translations even made up whole backstories for the accompanying manual. The whole "Zelda is your..." line that so many sibling theorists cling to was completely made up for the English release. The more accurate translation from the GBA remake omits it completely. For Ocarina of Time, there is absolutely nothing supporting that. That one was just made up by players that read way too much into nothing.
This is not the first time I've heard the Ocarina of Time one, but the fact that Link's mother is never _explicitly_ stated to _not_ be the Queen is ridiculous. I mean, the "Zelda is your..." line is ridiculous, the OoT one is... _ridonkulous._ Which is liek ridiculous-zilla, or something.
I think the Rito and Zora both exist in BOTW/TOTK because of iterative Evolution. Iterative Evolution is a phenomenon where a species that has gone extinct can re-evolve from the species they originally evolved from, as long as that origin species is still alive. This happened with the Aldabra Rail Bird. It went extinct, and later reappeared because it had evolved from the White-Throated Rail, which was still an extant species. The Rito may have existed in Rauru's time, went extinct before OoT, and then the Zora who stayed in Hyrule re-evolved into the Rito Windwaker. Some of the Zora left Hyrule before Windwaker, and some of those evolved into Yona's Kingdom, while the rest returned to Hyrule as Sidon's Kingdom.
Pretty sure "evolution" in the Zelda universe is inherently _theistic_ with the Golden Goddesses (specifically Farore) having a constant effect on the physical changes of many species which take part in the physical world in order to fulfill a preordained "cosmic plan" of how things are meant to be across the timeline. Taking into account the fact that the Zora from The Wind Waker would have been able to reach the flooded Hyrule kingdom had they remained water-able it makes sense that the Golden Goddesses would have turned them into bird people so that Ganondorf's Seal wouldn't be disrupted and so the people of the Great Sea would continue to thrive without the risk of exposing Ganondorf to the world. It's very much plausible than when the Zora and Rito races appeared together by the Era of the Wild it was by the hands of the goddesses who wished to see both evolutionary stages existing with one another side by side (think Australophitecus magically hanging out with Homo Sapiens after thousands of years or "reversed evolution" caused by God).
@@javiervasquez625 Sure, all of that may be true, but it would still be an occurrence of Iterative Evolution regardless of what the catalyst for the evolution was.
7:22 I hope and pray to Hylia that Nabooru was only offering Link a kiss on the lips, because sometimes a kiss for a little kid is treated as a Big Deal(tm).
Wasn't there some bit of lore about how hylian ears are pointed so they could hear the gods better? To me it just means that the Gerudo (since OoT times) have grown away from their dishonorable roots and towards Hylia. Except for Ganondorf.
Exactly that's by far the most plausible explanation considering the many other races who lack pointed ears due to their lack of "religious devotion" as seen with the Ordonians from Ordon Village or the bomb-making Barnes from Kakariko Village.
The number of Hylians who give it receive telepathy is very small, pretty much just Links, Royals and Sahasrahla, but the pointed aspect probably does help to act as receivers. So if the gods ever did want to talk to them, it'd be possible.
Its nice to watch a Bandit video again. I've been avoiding Zeldatubers since TotK release as I haven't had a chance to play it, but I figure this video would be pretty safe.
Only in the _english localization_ of Skyward Sword as the original japanese confirms Demise to be a japanese "bunshin" from japanese mythology (an extension of a larger creature or demon) who after outright _dying_ for good warned Link and Hylia of future events triggered by the "Demon Tribe" only mentioned in the japanese version of the game who are the real source of Ganondorf's many reincarnations across the series. According to the japanese Skyward Sword Demise is *dead* and all the many monsters and demons we've seen across the timeline are products of the aforementioned "Demon Tribe" who's existence overwhelms those of the Bunshin they created to represent them in Skyward Sword.
another fun time loop in Zelda would be the goron pottery in Oracle of ages. you get a pot from a present-day goron and then return to the past to give it to his ancestor so that he can pass it down through his lineage. this means one of two things, that pots exists out of nowhere and it is stuck in an infinite time-loop at which point it will eventually degrade into nothing as it is handled and passed down from goron to goron to goron to link back to the initial goron for ever. (even pottery would eventually fall apart after millions of years of this)
I still believe that after not being able to access the lens of truth in the original OoT timeline that Link journeys outside of Hyrule to find a way to stop Ganon, finds the Song of Storms in Termina's Ikana Valley, returns to Hyrule and tries it on the windmill as a child which upsets the windmill man so which starts the weird time loop as when he sees Adult Link trying pre-journey with the Ocarina it refuels his hate for the child, and thus he teaches that Link the song that his child self used. This original timeline could also have been the downfall timeline as Ganon would have significantly more time to prepare to fight The hero of Time.
I actually had my own theory about how the Rito and Zora can coexist. As revealed in Oracle of Ages, there are actually TWO types of Zora: Sea Zora, which are the friendly ones we see in the 3D games, and River Zora, which are the monsters we fight in most 2D games. We can see in both the Downfall and Child Timelines that both species can exist at the same time. So my theory is that the River Zora eventually evolved into the Rito, while the Sea Zora stayed as they were. The Rito in BotW and TotK are clearly different from the Rito in WW, such as being born with wings rather than having to earn them, and generally being more birdlike than humanoid. The reason the Rito in BotW and TotK are naturally good at archery could potentially be an evolution of how River Zora were really accurate with their energy ball spitting. Just a thought.
about the oracle games: apparently they retconned that this link is the one from alttp and la? according to zelda wiki, the Japanese version of the encyclopedia from 2017 says that. the first edition of the localized version says that oracle link is the same as alttp and la, but it was later updated to reflect the japanese. but i don't have the books myself lol but i generally find zelda wiki pretty reliable
Fun fact: Romani is can be found on day 2 of MM near the empty end (I think south) of the ranch. She will make her way home over the course of the day.
New random thought: TOTK - Sacred stones are a shattered Triforce of Power. Ganondorf in OoT and TP can transform into Ganon. Zelda and Ganondorf eat the stone and transform into dragons. Only thought of this because you mentioned windwaker in the same video. I could be very wrong XD.
ALTTP Link and Zelda were never implied to be siblings. Not only has this been debunked, but the rumor guy in albw talks about a painting of a previous hero and princess embracing, that albw Zelda has been caught looking fondly at. The manga of alttp also depicts them in a romantic light. Implying they got married by the final words. Never have they ever been siblings. Only friends and or romantic.
Ooh! You know what? That actually tracks with how many of the elder Zora treat you for "taking away" their beloved Mipha. They may not literally spit fire at you, but only their physical condition seems to keep them from "avenging" her. Yeah, TP gave us the late Queen Rutala, OoT gave us Dampe', Koume, and Kotake, MM gave us Mikau, Darmani, Kamaro...
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 I headcanon that they remove parts of their back, incubate it deep in high temperature, high pressure earth, and the piece expands into a baby Goron that's later dug out
@@commonviewer2488 there was concept art for Skyward Sword that had a Goron Elder, and tiny baby Gorons were falling off of his back rocks. They must be involved somehow.
@@commonviewer2488 They might also be born "from rocks" though and the reason why they have "fathers" and "brothers" is because they all belong to the same _rock breed_ creating a shared blood heritage between one another.
knew each one hehe also, i like to consider gorons a little bit like dwarves in fantasy fiction - both sexes look similar and most women have beards as well. though personally i think it goes deeper than that - if there are any sex differences between gorons, there's no outward indication of it. since gorons can have biological kids and siblings, there's clearly some sort of dna passage/fertilization. because they're born from caves/rock/earth itself (which has always been a personal headcanon of mine so i love how totk validated it), i imagine they only really need one dna-donor. so it's possible all gorons have the same biology/sex, and no concept of gender because of it.
Gorons are very much like the Dwarves from the Lord of the Rings books and Tolkien Lore in general by been presented as mostly masculine in nature, miners by trade and always linked to mountains and caverns very much like the dwarven kind from Tolkien Lore.
I would also include the Golden Goddesses as Ganondorf's ears became pointed after he obtained the Triforce of Power so it's definetly related to all the many gods within the Zelda pantheon.
I never really saw a love connection in BotW or TotK, her diary in both games implies she's jealous of or admires his courage and kinda resents her role as the Princess because of how restricted her life was in preparation for unlocking her power.
My theory is that Tingle is a real fairy who went insane and was cursed to reincarnate in a human body forever, only having faint dreams and delusions of his fairy days
A few things: I always assumed that gorons reproduce asexually. With that, the idea of romance is completely lost on them. My theory for why zora and rito can exist at the same time is because current rito are the evolution of the Loftwing. This would explain their general willingness to help hylians Rito in wind waker are also less "evolved from" zora, and more "mutated from" zora due to exposure to Valoo's scales. Yiga are part of the Shiekah race, exiled from the Shiekah tribe. All theories are fan/head canon
Oh, the lore gets weirder than that. As far as I have seen, the idea about the Goron females has been a fan reference to The Lord of the Rings, in relation to Dwarf women. I have never seen anyone say it came from an interview, until now.
It was explained in TotK that Purah and Robbie went around Hyrule and dismantled all Sheikah tech, which would have included all the divine beasts as well. They didn't just vanish into thin air.
I like to theorize that gorons are born from a volcano. Like every few years the volcano erupts and baby gorons come out. Then, adult gorons go to them and raise them
Fav theory about “Them”, they know the moon is about to destroy Termina. They’re saving the cows, but need knowledge on how to take care of them. And obviously need the memory of someone who loves them.
In Age of Calamity, there is a post-game mission in the gerudo town in which you can only choose female characters, Dark and Yunobo are allowed, I guess that settles it (Terrako ca also participate, it might just be frobidden to males)
i think the river zora evolved into the ones from botw and totk, while the sea zora evolved into the reto, explaining why medli's ancestor was the depiction of a sea zora from oot.
When it comes to people reincarnating outside the big 3 in Link, Zelda and Ganondorf, I've always liked to believe that in Impa's case it's not that she is always coming back as well but that the Sheikah, who are sworn to keep the royal bloodline safe, train and raise one of their own to be that "Impa". Making the name closer to a role or title given to the strongest Sheikah at the time.
Impa is a family name. The Impa family is the historic head family of the Sheikah. Those born into the family are handed the duties, not the other way round.
the one that I didn't put together was that Zelda was different from Zelda I. Reading the stories, it makes sense. But that story isn't quite explained in game, so I thought they were the same one. Looking it up, the story seems to come from a comic. What's the source for the lore about Zelda I?
I'd been saying for years that Awakening fit better thematically before the Oracles considering at the start of each Oracle game Link is riding a random horse up to Hyrule Castle as though he's just come back from a hilariously long trip. We'll just never get that answer for why he set off on his "three hour tour" in the first place.
I always thought it was more of a spiritual evolution of the wind spirit from zora to rito. Is this fully supported in Wind Waker, not really. Does it make a lot more sense than fish evolving into birds to escape a flood? Yes, yes it does. I always thought if anything it was a small pocket if zora that stayed back and turned to birds, and the bulk of them just swam to somewhere else.
It's a magic water that's hard to swim and regular fish don't live, so Zora lost their main food source, meaning they probably had to start hunting birds, they also escaped to where Valoo's live, and he was the one who provided their wings, so they slowly became bird-like.
@@Mari_IzuI can't believe they just casually mention, ONCE, that there's no fish in the Great Sea. That's an absolutely bonkers world-building detail that did not get the narrative exploration it deserved.
I think the best way I've seen the Downfall Timeline explained during the events of OoT is that child Link drew the master sword and immediately went to fight Ganondorf. Obviously a kid wasn't ready, so he died and the Goddesses intervened with the redo button, this time sealing him away when he draws the sword for seven years. But his death still happened, so the Goddesses salvaged 1 out of 3 timelines from this whole mess.
10:06 to clarify that, no one actually broke the triforce. it was more of a test from the power itself to determine who would be worthy, each triforce has it's own way of determining who's worthy but sometimes they will do a trial like this. and skyward sword is technically the first event and the curse cast by the final boss (forgot their name) is what keeps link, zelda, and ganon coming back. until the time in which ganon defeats them both and satisfies the conditions of the curse that was cast. unfortunate that the land of hyrule keeps suffering because someone was a sore loser.
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Awesome video
To me the weirdest Thing is, how 2 Divine Beasts where modeled after Animals that have no Source in the Nature of Hyrule
yiga members despawn after certain conditions are met
once kohga is defeated and will only respawn when you start the dlc quest and will despawn again after you complete said quest
they will never respawn again after that
I mostly skip sponsor clips but this one was funny.
Explaining Ganondorf’s round ears with science: it’s a sex linked recessive trait that doesn’t have a chance to mutate because only one Gerudo male is born every 100 years 😅
Pretty sure the ear shape and the green skin are just linked to gerudo male DNA
another weird detail i don't see mentioned often is how ganondorf's ears become more pointy in contact with the triforce, including to the point that in ocarina of time around his ears go from round to pointy after the 7 year time skip
Also worth to mention:
The Hylian Ears exist for the purpose that the Hylians can recieve messages from the Gods.
Maybe Ganondorf somehow decided to not get these ears while still being an Fetus and Therefore he wouldnt recieve any divine messages.
Maybe it is Because Ganondorf is not evil because he got jealous, he is evil Because he is born as someone evil, and Therefore he maybe refuses on Purpose to even listen to what the Gods want to say to him.
Or because Ganondorf is really old and the gerudos evolved it, while he was sealed away?
@@Drakolyr Exactly this. In Tears of the Kingdom, this is ancient Gerudo daddy Ganondorf. He was sealed away thousands of years ago. He's not the Gerudos who evolved into getting the pointy ears.
correction about the Zoras, both types appear in the Oracle games, mainly Oracle of Ages which establishes the aggresive Zoras as River Zora and the friendly Zora as Sea Zora and that they are seperate species
Fun fact, the River Zora are also confirmed by Hyrule Hystoria to be "demons", so they are both demons and Zora at the same time
@@windhunter7 Personally i take the Historia with a grain of salt alongside the Zelda Encyclopedia and Creating a Champion books as all 3 books provide information which outright _contradicts_ one another making it near impossible to have a consistent consensus of which Lore is accurate across each book and which one has been outright retconned in favor of new information. Personally i simply don't accept any information which is specifically revealed in either of the 3 books (aside from the timeline mind you).
@@javiervasquez625you might just wanna take one’s advice, whichever seems the most sensible. Btw you should use periods or fullstops
@@ucgghbvbhfd Sorry i was on a rush while writing and my autocorrect was apparently not on my side at the same time. Got it fixed.
@@windhunter7 Hyrule Historia and Encyclopedia are not canon, just the interpretations (most purely headcanon) of Shogakukan's writters based on stuff they saw in the games + bits of info devs shared. It's even stated on them that these are not the final words and stuff there can be changed over time.
A personal theory about the gorons: they reproduce by budding, just like some corals. That "Gorons grow out of rocks" thing was just those guys not wanting to explain Goron reproduction to Link, something like the tale of the stork for kids.
Also, their hair feels like steel wool to the touch.
I mean, if gorons just drop rocks, then a certain stimuli must be required to trigger it, like say, the parent wanting to have a child.
@@jacksonvoet8312
Or it can also simply be like cell reproduction where they just randomly asexually Increase
@@sboinkthelegday3892 Not really sure what the message here was, but I'll address what I am able to.
1. Most fashion was created by the wealthy and/or resource producers and then became a social norm through that culture. For example, in England, high heels and stockings were a male nobility thing until these goods were more widely distributed and women decided that they also wanted slim looking longer legs, then the men largely decided that it was more of a 'feminine' thing as it became a staple amongst women, who valued buying it over the men. (There's obviously more to it, but that's the truncated version.)
2. Gender and sex have always had distinctions in culture, but these are defined differently in many cultures, hence why such a concept of 'masculine' and 'feminine' traits exists seperately from physically being male or female. 'Gender roles' as we commonly call them now sprung from this concept. Not sure what any of this has to do with American economics, and a video game lore comment section may not be the best place to debate the intricacies of economics, politics, or religion.
3. In Japanese, there are clear male and female terms and even some honorifics, and gender is played with quite a bit in the culture, but I haven't seen anything in the games that suggests this type of wordplay happening in the games, though I haven't seen all of the games' Japanese text and haven't played the latest two games at all, so I may be wrong on that point somewhere. At the very least, it doesn't come up that often. Either way, the subject can get confusing indeed, but I don't think there's any taboo around it nowadays. Maybe a few generations ago, sure, but not so much now.
4. I don't think Gorons can produce pollen as they are rock based, but a similar effect from a certain type of mineral could cause a change in them causing them to be able to reproduce. Who knows?
Anyway, I hope this was entertaining and helpful. These subjects can be discussed lightly and in good humor and faith, but you often won't get that after typing words in full caps and using forceful linguistic techniques that comes across as yelling from the reader's perspective. That aside, your use of punctuation is solid and I appreciate that. You could probably write some papers or perhaps even books about the topics you're passionate about.
I thought they did the old fashioned way. We see Rosso in ALBW who may be part Goron part Hylian. In Twilight Princess they may also drink milk which is something mammals do.
@jacksonvoet8312 That's not true. Corals, which can also reproduce by budding, do not have a stimuli that trigger them to reproduce asexually. It's simply part of their life-cycle that when they reach a certain size, they bud and reproduce.
Maybe Big Goron was the Papa for a bunch of the smaller Gorons? 😂
"This means that cannonically, that means link lived and died-"
Shrödingers link
Or the Golden Goddesses just wanted 3 timelines to represent each one of them:
Adult = Nayru = Wisdom
Child = Farore = Courage
Downfall = Din = Power
The Triforce was broken into pieces back in the original game too.
It's just a lore friendly game element.
Exactly.
Actually in the Oracle Games are two Types of Zoras, the Hostile and the Friendly ones present, so they didnt went extinct or anything, they are just a Different type
with the oracle games taking place in different lands than hyrule, that fits in pretty well with the "domains outside of hyrule" piece of lore.
Could be formulated into something like:
The Downfall Timeline imprisoning war caused the OoT Zoras Domain to be permanently destroyed, forcing the remaining Zora to live in the rivers waters, and over time adapt to that environment, becoming river Zora. With other Domains being unaffected since that war took place in hyrule.
Does that not imply that Link surviving is the reason the hostile Zora went extinct in the other timelines?
@@DJCheese77
Not completely, in Four Swords Adventures, the one game everyone forgets (eventhough it doesnt deserve that) which takes place after Twilight Princess Officially, you can meet hostile Zoras still, and in Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks there are also some form of Hostile Zoras - Technically at least but I think they go by a Different name
@@Chris-gx1eiThey're not in the DS games.
@@zachtwilightwindwaker596
Oh? These armed Fish Creatures arent Zora-Related?
One thing to note about Gorons, I believe you can find at least one Goron in Gerudo Town during BOTW. Which, whether that means that Goron is female or not, it at the very least means that the Gerudo don’t recognize that Goron as a voe. Idk if this means that specific Goron is female, or if Gorons don’t have different sexes, or if the Gerudo simply don’t care about the gender of Gorons for one reason or another, but it’s another interesting tidbit to add to the idea that Gorons can be female
I believe if you talk to that particular Goron he says something like, "Why did they let me in here?" This heavily implies that this particular Goron is a boy.
I think one of the Gerudo guards, or maybe another character around Gerudo Town, says that because the Gerudo don't know how to classify Gorons they let all of them in by default.
They're probably genderless are there are dialogues in Tears of the Kingdom which suggest Gorons are literally _"born from rocks"_ in Death Mountain. If i recall there's a quest where 2 old Gorons want to reach a cavern in Death Mountain where according to them "they were born long ago" suggesting that Gorons are in fact genderless rock people who happen to birthed by the mountain itself.
@@javiervasquez625 well, the "born from rocks" thing clearly isn't the whole story. Yunobo has ancestors. That requires something biological. The fact that his blood is the same as Daruk's, so he can use Daruk's Protection, means that he is definitely a real biological descendant thereof, meaning the ground thing is only part of it.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 True yet i always saw that as less of a genetic "bloodline" of gorons directly birthing children through generations and more so different "breeds" of Gorons who happen to be different to the others allowing them to consider past Gorons of their own breed as their "ancestors" (think of the Warrior Namekians from Dragon Ball who are considered a seperate breed to the peaceful Namekians without a genetic link aside from belonging to the same race).
Since we never see such evidence for "Goron mating" to be possible the way Hylian-Gerudo mating is i feel the evidence is convincing to suggest Gorons are in fact a genderless byproduct of Death Mountain creating them as newborn babies ex nihilo.
@@javiervasquez625 well, as I said, Yunobo literally contains the genetics of Daruk. Something on Daruk's body made a son, and something on that son's body made Yunobo.
I always thought Gorons ‘budded’ off the backs of the adults. That Rocky outcropping? The older ones have holes on the rocks. My head canon is that those are the exact rocks that new gorons were born from
Maybe they plant the rocks budding from their backs in thr ground until it becomes a full grown baby Goron
Well that just triggered my tryptophobia in a unique way
But yeah, I agree and assumed the same. Might also explain how gorons choose a chief - the one who bore the most children would be a natural choice for leader in their community, a community which has very little social stratification.
If the pointy ears genes being obtained theory is correct, then ganondorf not having them makes perfect sense because, remember, he is a 10,000 year old corpse kept alive purely through dark magic.
he is older then 10k because that was the gap between the calmity Ganon that appears in BotW and the one that appeared 10k years before that one
I don't think the Modern Gerudo have pointed ears due to Hylians, its more or less due to their increased connection to the gods, they clearly worship Hylia with a statue in the town. Also, ancient Hylians had even longer ears due to how close they were with the Zonai; literal decendants of the gods. Ganondorf didnt get the memo because he's an incarnation of evil, his ears are closed to the gods and thus rounded.
So are you are saying his ears are closed to the zonai?
I mean, yea but not in that sence. They (hylians) are closer to them because of genetics. It would be a literal sence, because they are their decendants. Gerudo have their own haratage.
He didnt get them because when he was born, they didnt breed with hylians yet.
@@jordanekl5383 According to Shad in Twilight Princess (if my memory doesn't fail me) Hylians have long ears to "listen to the message from the gods" and in Ocarina of Time when we first meet Ganondorf he sports _rounded ears_ before magically transforming into pointed ones after he obtains the Triforce of Power. It's most likely that the reason why the Gerudo in the Era of the Wild have developed pointed ears is due to their own personal connection to the gods after abandoning their past evil ways following Ganondorf and becoming a nobler and pure hearted tribe seeking a peaceful relationship with the other tribes of Hyrule.
@javiervasquez625 Ganon ends up possessing power that came directly from the literal gods themselves.
And hylians are decendants from the reincarnation of the godess hylia.
Two different reasons altogether.
@javiervasquez625 Also, this makes me wonder if you believe in the bibles words being 100% fact as well...
Like, do you believe that half the world will be Thanos snapped away and athat there is a literal hell that will open up on earth?
@@jordanekl5383 yeah, pointed ears are a gift to the Hylians because pointed ears are to better hear the gods. Gerudo back in Oot seemed more like Aetheists, but by the time of Botw, they have a form of religious belief.
I did not know about the Cucco Lady in A Link to the Past and that is One of my all time favorite Zelda Games!
Didja know about the riddles in the GBA version?
The dudes that cut down the tree have another brother.
6:20 I think the new pointy ears are meant to be a reference to that random OoT NPC fact about "being able to hear the Gods better" with them. Meaning the Gerudo got a redemption in BotW and that's pretty neat :)
The Hero of Time is in a state of Quantum Superposition. He is both defeated and victorious simultaneously until observed.
Upon observed, however, he immediately vanishes into either a different time or an alternate reality.
Schrodinger's Link 😱
Observed by the Golden Goddesses who determine wether the Link cat is alive in one timeline or dead in the other one. Guess Din must have fallen asleep when she was she supposed to see the cat in the Downfall Timeline.
"in Wind Waker, the triforce is broken into 8 pieces. so weird, right?"
Zelda 1: "am i a joke to you?"
Fun fact, Deku Scrubs haven't existed in a 3d Zelda game since Majora's Mask. After Windwaker, they've been replaced with Koroks and Octoroks. They're also my favorite Zelda race, so it's a shame they haven't been in any modern title.
For real same for the Skullkids, Minish, Oocca, Anoukis, Kikwis, Mogmas and Parellas all forgotten to shove in the same races over and over again... (sigh) ¿Why can't you bring old races back Nintendo??
@@javiervasquez625 yes!! At least the ones that appeared more than once, but I'd prefer all of them! From what I heard, there was a possibility of Minish coming back in BotW, but didn't get in. We need more of them all!
They probably thought having two rock spitting enemies is redundant, so they kept the one that came first.
And Koroks replaced Kokiris, not Dekus.
@@Mari_Izu As i understand it Koroks _are_ Kokiris after they evolved in the Great Sea meanwhile the Deku Scrubs seemingly became extinct in the Adult Timeline despite the Deku Tree himself been around all the way into the Era of the Wild making one wonder if the Korok may just have replaced the Deku as a new seperate "plant race" appart from the original.
@@javiervasquez625I just got a bit of mental vertigo imagining the respective ages of the two Deku Trees that we have met. If the Sprout survived (and thrived) all the way through tens of thousands of years, just how old WAS the Great Deku Tree, you know?? His lifetime must have spiralled back into the mists of prehistory.
About the triforce shards: don't forget that the original Zelda 1 had you collecting the shattered triforce of wisdom. So the only triforce part not shattered yet is power. Wonder if they'll do anything with that in the future.
That should really have been the main Quest of Tears of the Kingdom as we learn through the main story that the so called "secret stones" are in fact the splintered shards of the Triforce of Power which the Zonai tribe created for the precise purpose of preventing Ganondorf's from reclaiming it not knowing that his very soul was connected to it leading to the Zonai been corrupted by the stones and leading to their extinction. Imagine how cool it would have been had the plot involved collecting the shards of the Triforce of Power in order to dispell it's connection to Ganondorf and so purify it from his control once and for all.
@@javiervasquez625 I totally missed that it was the triforce of power being shattered. Guess that means we just might have something more to do with it in the future then.
@@NyrinTriballIt wasn't, he was saying it would be cool if it was that.
One thing about the past Gerudo with round ears: in the Child timeline with Twlight Princess the people of Ordon and a few citizens like Aisha have round ears. Ordon looks to be a region of land that is separate from Hyrule by a large valley. It could be stated that Ordon was never a part of Hyrule's orginal territory but was made one through good relations between the people of another neighboring country. Aisha said she grew up in the mountains of Snowpeak which is on the complete upper edge of the kingdom. Her and her father could've been from another country as well but came to Hyrule to live for whatever purpose. As for the Gerudo, the desert doesn't have an actual end to it so they could have came from the far West past the Desert Colossus. According to the timeline they left Hyrule to lobe in the Desert of Dought. They're also one of the only races that can use elemetal sorcery(Kome and Kotake) and nobody says anything about Urbosa's thunder.
Felt a little bit of sass when you mentioned the divine beasts disappeared lmao
We‘re all still reeling from the aftermath
i felt that deep within my soul
@@lmnt66unlike Hyrule, apparently.
I would love to see a Lore of the Impas, and/or Lore of the Kings video.
Lore of the Kings! Now that's a great idea. I'll probably make that eventually, and when I do, I'll credit you :)
Impas are all just part of a biggggg family. So big, that it existed before Hyrule. Thousands of years before Hyrule, back when the Humans were in the sky, and even before.
@@BanditGames Aw! Thanks, Bandit! Glad you’re back. 😊
I second this!!
Impa deserves it mainly because she is often our only access to the Sheikah in any given game. She's like the mushroom growing out of a much deeper mycelium. By examining how Impa is expressed in each game, you can then consider how the hidden influence of the Sheikah is felt from title to title.
Great video as always man! Just a couple of things I want to mention:
2:33 - They only reason that branch exists that way is because they couldn´t find any other way to fit the older games in the timeline. Originally, it is highly likely that the intent was for the Adult Timeline to have lead to ALTTP (Despite the many, many contradictions OOT had to the lore of ALTTP, as OOT was made to be a re-telling of the Imprisoning War from ALTTP), since Ganon was sealed by the sages within the Dark World. But then, TWW was released, making it impossible for ALTTP to be in that branch (which was already iffy given the contradictions. OOT was more of a hard reboot of the series which took the best elements from the past games to make the game we know today) When comparing that is said in the book to both ALTTP and OOT, they purposefully omit key information and move events around to try to fit that narrative, which simply does not work and goes against the games themselves.
3:50 - I have no idea why they made that change, since the oracle game's ending has Link sailing away from Hyrule to train on the same boat we later see him on in LA as he return from his training back to Hyrule. Encyclopedia (released a few years before LA Remake), also can´t seem to make up its mind on if its the same or a different hero (same with Zelda). That book is a nightmare for the lore of the series.
5:44 - Gonna disagree here too. The whole idea that FSA's Ganondorf is a reincarnation was, again, only a book thing made up by the writters. The placement of FSA is proved wrong by the game itself, which placed it immediately after Four Swords, with no time jump whatsoever, as the people believed peace had returned to Hyrule following the re-sealing of Vaati, until Dark Clouds covered Hyrule (the start of FSA). It's the same Link and Zelda in both games. Aonuma also said upon the release of FSA that both games were thought to have been the "Earliest Tales" at the time, that is until the release of TMC and SS.
AONUMA: "The GBA Four Swords Zelda is what we’re thinking as the oldest tale in the Zelda timeline. With this one on the GameCube [(FSA)] being a sequel to that, and taking place sometime after that."
When it comes to Ganondorf or Ganon, he has died many times in the series, but the point of him is that he always returns, with a vengeance.
MIYAMOTO: Even though Ganon is defeated time and time again, he is evil incarnate and will come back time and time again, with a vengeance. Each time, when the world is blanketed in evil, a young boy and girl will be born.
When Ganon is killed, he does not reincarnate into another version of Ganondorf, but is instead revived, either by himself (his return in TWW was called a revival, as he was sent to "Beyond the Underworld" by the sages in OOT, also called a "Dark World" by Zelda), or through rituals such as in TAOL with his minions seeking to sprinkle Link's Blood (the blood of the one who killed him) on his ashes, or Twinrova seeking to light the three flames and sacrifice Zelda to revive him in the oracle games. Even in TP he died multiple times, and was always reborn/revived (when stabbed by the sages and revived by the Triforce, when sent to the Twilight Realm as he became a flaming spirit of Malice and then revived into the world of Light, killed by Link when he was transformed into Dark Beast Ganon as he became the flame spirit again and then was revived when he killed Midna, and finally killed by Link with the Master Sword, but he would innevitable return, as he promised to both Link and Zelda before his death. Even Hyrule Warriors which is set long in the future after Twilight Princess alludes to that Ganon being the same one from TP, even wearing an armor very similar to that from TP, with even longer hair as time had passed). The point being that, if he will just reincarnate into a completely separate Ganon, then there would be no need to revive him.
Even for TOTK there is very strong evidence that suggests that it is still the same Ganondorf from OOT. both BOTW and CAC made it very clear that Calamity Ganon was Ganon from OOT, who became the calamity after many, many revivals. The history of these conflicts was recorded in the Forgotten Temple, a temple which existed since before the era of the Zonai, as they built a chamber into the pre-existing temple. And then we have Ganondorf's design, who is the only gerudo of his entire tribe who has the classic amber eyes and round ears of the era of Ocarina of Time, whereas all the other Gerudo have green eyes and pointy ears. That was a very clear distinction, which went though multiple itterations and design processes. As to why he doesn´t seem to care about seeking the Triforce... Bad writting I suppose, it just didn´t matter for this game, he probably forgot, who knows. Same thing happens with Vaati between TMC and FS, he seems like a completely different character altogether, but we know it is the same character.
11:05 - The Goron quote is in the 64DREAM magazine from April 1999, Page 95. It also has very interesting details regarding the Gerudo always having pure Gerudo offspring regardless of the race of the father, and confirming the death of Ruto's mother.
Probably made the Oracles change because the Zelda of those games very clearly doesn't remember you rescuing her from ALttP
Love and agree with everything you wrote above except on the current Ganondorf from Tears of the Kingdom been the exact same one from past games given how weird and inconsistent it is for him to neither _remember_ any of the battles he's fought countless of times across several different timelines with different incarnations of Link and Zelda since Ocarina of Time while also showing no interest in obtaining the omnipotent Triforce when it's power is clearly above the nagatama inspired secret stones of the Zonai tribe. To me this seems like apparent evidence that Aonuma, Fujibayashi and possibly even Miyamoto himself have finally relented on the reincarnation subject and at last confirmed Ganondorf to also be a part of a _reincarnation cycle_ like the many other characters we've seen across the series ranging from Link to Zelda, Epona, Malon, Talon, Ingo, Gorman, Syrup the witch, the Happy Mask Salesman, Anju, Mamamu Yan, ??? (hand in the toilet), Mutoh, Mutoh's carpenter apprentices, Dampe the gravdigger, Guru-guru the organ grinder, Tingle, Sturgeon, Carlov and the 3 oracles among a few others.
Since having a Ganondorf with absolutely no explanation for what can only be described as sudden chronic amnesia comes off as completley unbelievable on a narrative level i'm forced to embrace this matter as undeniable proof of Nintendo confirming Ganondorf's reincarnation as a natural phenomenon of the Zelda reincarnation cycle very much like every other character listed above.
What about TOTk's Ganondorf? was he somehow revived?
That drawing of the Zora at 3:06 is so interesting
It also looks quite creepy and yet cartoonish as if belonged in a Disney movie from the 80s.
Ganondorf is a reincarnation of Demise's hatred for Link and Zelda. he explicitly states this in SS
Pretty sweet video! Thank you for the weird Zelda Lore, looking forward to seeing what you cook up next. Hope you been well Bandit!
Lol how did you get those emojis ? 😮
@seraphimsforge-master5433 they are pretty cool, it's when you become a YT supporters for the channel.
I have something to say that nobody else has considered. Zelda managed to duplicate one of the secret stones, she took Rauru's stone and then went back in time and Rauru still had his stone and she did too, so that implies that she duplicated one of them.
What's the WEIRDEST thing you've EVER seen in a Zelda game??
that weird dance in majoras mask with the faceless mask... it's so weird but cool at the same time
Probably the Kirby-like enemy in Link's Awakening or the Mario Mask on the Happy Mask Salesman's backpack
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the yiga disguising as a cucco to get link in totk
the quest where everyone is naked in totk. and that horrific monster in ooc (the dead hand) also the bird in twilight princess terifies me.
I have played these games to death and there was still a bunch of stuff that I had no idea about! Incredible video
Regarding the Zora/Rito coexistence in BotW/TotK, with it being largely soft-agreed that the timelines were somehow converged by this point, I see two possible explanations:
1) The worlds got fully blended together into a singular one and history was adapted to fit this "new" combined timeline. In this case, when the world got flooded for a few centuries and everyone went to live on the mountains/islands, the River and Sea Zora diverged even further than in the Oracle games. I believe the Sea Zora would have evolved to dwell deeper beneath the waves, whereas the River Zora became birbs-with their animosity towards Hylians being mirrored by Revali's standoffishness in BotW and AoC (even if the latter isn't considered canon, same as base HW, as far as I know). Then, when the sea somehow drained, the Sea Zora would have once more had to revert to their shallow-dwelling natures, and over time adapted to a freshwater environment to rebuild Zora's Domain. Meanwhile, the Rito... kept being birbs, but the avian traits became increasingly pronounced over time, with them becoming increasingly feathered across their entire bodies, likely to shield them from the cold.
2) A parallel-yet-separate Hyrule (or a version far enough into the future that the previous timelines turn from history to myth) got all three timelines smooshed into it, with specific things popping out without fundamentally changing the world itself. Basically HW (despite it being non-canon). Zora and Rito both come through, establish populations, then adapt to their new homes over the course of a few centuries. Quick and easy, if a bit convenient.
Personally, although the end result is the same, I prefer the former just because it seems like a more fun idea to play around with. Honestly, that explanation could easily be the case even within Wind Waker itself, with the Zora tribes diverging-some stayed in the shallows, before eventually going onto land and evolving into the Rito, while others retreated further into the depths and remained Zora. The sage we saw would have likely been one of the shallows-dwelling Zora, if Medley is to share a direct lineage with her as most have interpreted.
Hyrule Warriors. That what put them all together. However uncanon that Nintendo thinks it is, it actually has to be canon for the Zelda timeline to work. And thus I consider HW canon.
but everything returned to normal afterwards meaning that even if it was canon it wouldn't be why the timelines merged infact I say it happens after the merging@@Hyrule_Historian3113
I think Gorons are just sexless rock people. They aren't male, they're just masculine. Like how in Steven Universe, they're sexless gem people who are feminine, but they aren't female.
Makes sense for a species that is born by crawling out of rock like TotK reveals. They are all siblings born of the earth mother with certain "older brothers" watching out for the young ones. Maybe they use male pronouns because they themselves don't produce offspring.
that's exactly what the Canon says about them. Gorons are completely sexless, and any perceived gender identity as people know it is either assumed, or Gorons just happen to tend toward masculine gender expressions. It's why, despite being masculine presenting, Gorons are openly allowed into Gerudo town, because technically they are not male or men and therefore are not banned from entry.
9:37 that's what happened in the very first Zelda game as well.
3:56 I think Nintendo swapped Link’s Awakening and the Oracle games in their timeline placements to eliminate the possibility/fan theory that Link died in Link’s Awakening.
I once saw art of Nabooru giving child Link a big smooch on the cheek, which is a much cuter promise for her to grant to a little kid. Still would be something she would want to do to a handsome guy too! Also, I think of the Triforce as both matter and energy, the building blocks of reality that the physical world and the laws of physics are rooted to. So sure it can be broken and fused together as long as its not destroyed and the world will still function.
The Triforce has also been hinted to be the 3 Golden Goddesses _themselves_ as shown during Lanayru's story about the Fused Shadow where we're shown 3 goddesses literally *fusing* to create the Triforce. Thusly one may argue that the reason why the Triforce can change into so many shapes is because the goddesses have the ability to change their own appeareance given their divine omnipotent nature.
She'd kiss either adult or child Link, and honestly, adult and child Link would probably be willing to take it.
I'm pretty sure that the people of the same names as the goddesses are their avatars or incarnations (oracle series)@@javiervasquez625
Technically, how the multiplayer functionality works in Tri Force Heroes seems to imply that there is a multiverse. It's hard to explain so simply put it the three Links that appear in that game are all real Links that come from different realities based on the players own universe or whatever that can join someone with a green Link's game to become red or blue Link, but can also become green Link's themselves (in one's own universe I think).
The multiverse is somewhat proven with A Link between Worlds introducing Ravio, Hilda and Yuga as alternate versions of Link, Zelda and Ganondorf respectively so it's most likely the case that there are other such parallel dimensions where other such versions of Link and company exist.
Aside from how the multiplayer works, I think they just came from different lands and also had the "courageous ones" atributes: sideburns, ponty ears (Hytopia, like various lands outside Hyrule, has people with round ears) and hair side parted hair.
It's a funny game, so the coincidence of having other two dudes looking similar is funnier than just being alternate realities.
As all Toon Links look the same, that's probably why they choose this design instead of repeating ALBW's one, so it's easier to justify them using the same model with different colors.
I learned a few things, but a few notes on a couple of these.
We have seen proof of foreign, OoT-style Zora before Tears of the Kingdom, in Oracle of Ages. That game is perhaps the only one to feature both Green and Blue Zora, explaining them as River and Ocean Zora respectively.
In terms of breaking the Triforce into pieces, that is a concept as old as the series itself, with the original Famicom/NES game's backstory saying that Princess Zelda took the Triforce of Wisdom and broke it into pieces to hide them
Nabooru is never beating the allegations after this 😭
I personally agree there’s no reason that Gerudo people can’t occasionally name their son Ganondorf just like with Zelda and Link who use the same explanation. In fact darkness being a natural and necessary counterbalance to light makes for a lot more interesting plot implications as well as parallels to eastern religions
I always thought Tingle was termina’s version of link.
2:12 Also, though not intentional on Nintendo's part, this is technically the first time we're explicitly shown that women born into the Hylian royal family are traditionally named Zelda with each successive generation, inadvertently tying into the cycle of reincarnation set in motion by Demise. For all we know, this could even be a Zelda from another point in the Fallen timeline, which is fun to theorize about.
I have to say ever since you aired out your feelings, your voice has that familiar bounce that it used to have when I first found your channel. I’m so glad that you were pursuing things the way that you want to. Loved this video.
Sea Zoras and River Zoras are different species, however, as shown in the Oracle games.
In the goron fact I thought you were gonna point out how gorons were allowed to enter gerudo town, but there might've been an explanation about it that I've never heard of lol
ther reproduce by "budding"
They have as much gender as a plant does.
Here's the kicker. They were allowed in Gerudo Town in BotW (Lyndae and Strade got in, confused as to why they were allowed) but in TotK Kairo tries to enter and is banned. He says that his Goron friends got it, and the guards just deny that it ever happened...
I thought it was initially because Gorons are considered genderless to most other races so they get a pass.
But after TotK, I wonder if it's been retconned that they're all male now.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 Gorons dont have a gender, this is very obviously prooven.
Are the gerudo going to discriminate just because they assumed they have a whang dangle?? No, they are good people.
You could also argue that the scenario with Link saving an older princess Zelda in AoL was somewhat repeated in TotK.
TotK also takes place roughly 5-6 years after BotW, and by the end we save Zelda who has been stuck as a dragon for tens of thousands of years, and according to Zelda it was as though she was asleep, so you could technically argue she was asleep during that time. Only difference being that it's the same Zelda and not a different one.
Most likely just a fun coincidence though.
I love the subtle jabs at tears of the kingdom, keep em coming bro!
Commenting for visibility for more non-Tears Zelda content!
Stay strong, Bandit ~
3:21 I misheard this the first time I watched this and thought that you called them the Dorito Tribe. I went WHAT?! and rewatched it.
9:36 Bandit: Tingle, Tingle! Kooloo-Limpah!
9:39 *Tingle has entered chat.*
9:42 Tingle: _THIEF!_
Whelp… I guess they don’t call you “Bandit” for nothing, eh? 🤷🏻♂️
There is no canonical support for Link and Zelda being siblings.
The English translation of A Link to the Past took a lot of creative liberties. Translations during the early 90s were incredibly rough especially for more story driven games that were releasing at the time. Some translations even made up whole backstories for the accompanying manual. The whole "Zelda is your..." line that so many sibling theorists cling to was completely made up for the English release. The more accurate translation from the GBA remake omits it completely.
For Ocarina of Time, there is absolutely nothing supporting that. That one was just made up by players that read way too much into nothing.
This is not the first time I've heard the Ocarina of Time one, but the fact that Link's mother is never _explicitly_ stated to _not_ be the Queen is ridiculous. I mean, the "Zelda is your..." line is ridiculous, the OoT one is... _ridonkulous._ Which is liek ridiculous-zilla, or something.
I think the Rito and Zora both exist in BOTW/TOTK because of iterative Evolution.
Iterative Evolution is a phenomenon where a species that has gone extinct can re-evolve from the species they originally evolved from, as long as that origin species is still alive. This happened with the Aldabra Rail Bird. It went extinct, and later reappeared because it had evolved from the White-Throated Rail, which was still an extant species.
The Rito may have existed in Rauru's time, went extinct before OoT, and then the Zora who stayed in Hyrule re-evolved into the Rito Windwaker. Some of the Zora left Hyrule before Windwaker, and some of those evolved into Yona's Kingdom, while the rest returned to Hyrule as Sidon's Kingdom.
Pretty sure "evolution" in the Zelda universe is inherently _theistic_ with the Golden Goddesses (specifically Farore) having a constant effect on the physical changes of many species which take part in the physical world in order to fulfill a preordained "cosmic plan" of how things are meant to be across the timeline. Taking into account the fact that the Zora from The Wind Waker would have been able to reach the flooded Hyrule kingdom had they remained water-able it makes sense that the Golden Goddesses would have turned them into bird people so that Ganondorf's Seal wouldn't be disrupted and so the people of the Great Sea would continue to thrive without the risk of exposing Ganondorf to the world.
It's very much plausible than when the Zora and Rito races appeared together by the Era of the Wild it was by the hands of the goddesses who wished to see both evolutionary stages existing with one another side by side (think Australophitecus magically hanging out with Homo Sapiens after thousands of years or "reversed evolution" caused by God).
@@javiervasquez625 Sure, all of that may be true, but it would still be an occurrence of Iterative Evolution regardless of what the catalyst for the evolution was.
7:22 I hope and pray to Hylia that Nabooru was only offering Link a kiss on the lips, because sometimes a kiss for a little kid is treated as a Big Deal(tm).
10:58 so gorons are like dwarves?
In the ocarina of time manga, we actually see a mom goron. That goron is referred by their son as Mom.
Maybe they don't all use he/him?
05:20 - well, of course he can! It’s where the term “Poe-tion” came from. Link has always drank “Potions”…
Wasn't there some bit of lore about how hylian ears are pointed so they could hear the gods better? To me it just means that the Gerudo (since OoT times) have grown away from their dishonorable roots and towards Hylia. Except for Ganondorf.
Exactly that's by far the most plausible explanation considering the many other races who lack pointed ears due to their lack of "religious devotion" as seen with the Ordonians from Ordon Village or the bomb-making Barnes from Kakariko Village.
The number of Hylians who give it receive telepathy is very small, pretty much just Links, Royals and Sahasrahla, but the pointed aspect probably does help to act as receivers. So if the gods ever did want to talk to them, it'd be possible.
Its nice to watch a Bandit video again. I've been avoiding Zeldatubers since TotK release as I haven't had a chance to play it, but I figure this video would be pretty safe.
the Third Gannondorf isn't the from the same geration as the modern Gerudo. it is literally eons between his birth and the events of TotK
The "Spirit of the Villain" is canonically Demise's curse.
Only in the _english localization_ of Skyward Sword as the original japanese confirms Demise to be a japanese "bunshin" from japanese mythology (an extension of a larger creature or demon) who after outright _dying_ for good warned Link and Hylia of future events triggered by the "Demon Tribe" only mentioned in the japanese version of the game who are the real source of Ganondorf's many reincarnations across the series. According to the japanese Skyward Sword Demise is *dead* and all the many monsters and demons we've seen across the timeline are products of the aforementioned "Demon Tribe" who's existence overwhelms those of the Bunshin they created to represent them in Skyward Sword.
@@javiervasquez625 That... was a very different translation then!
Love the legacy Zelda content, keep up the great work!
"if you're someone who sleeps...and I know you do"
Me: Laughs in insomniac
"Cluck, I used to be a cucco..." "That's okay baby I went to the dungeons once, nobody's perfect."
another fun time loop in Zelda would be the goron pottery in Oracle of ages. you get a pot from a present-day goron and then return to the past to give it to his ancestor so that he can pass it down through his lineage. this means one of two things, that pots exists out of nowhere and it is stuck in an infinite time-loop at which point it will eventually degrade into nothing as it is handled and passed down from goron to goron to goron to link back to the initial goron for ever. (even pottery would eventually fall apart after millions of years of this)
I still believe that after not being able to access the lens of truth in the original OoT timeline that Link journeys outside of Hyrule to find a way to stop Ganon, finds the Song of Storms in Termina's Ikana Valley, returns to Hyrule and tries it on the windmill as a child which upsets the windmill man so which starts the weird time loop as when he sees Adult Link trying pre-journey with the Ocarina it refuels his hate for the child, and thus he teaches that Link the song that his child self used. This original timeline could also have been the downfall timeline as Ganon would have significantly more time to prepare to fight The hero of Time.
My head hurts thinking of all the convoluted circumstances which would lead to such a specific timeline haha.
3:53 It's not about the remake, it's a reviewed timeline from Zelda Encyclopedia, which is very contested
I actually had my own theory about how the Rito and Zora can coexist. As revealed in Oracle of Ages, there are actually TWO types of Zora: Sea Zora, which are the friendly ones we see in the 3D games, and River Zora, which are the monsters we fight in most 2D games. We can see in both the Downfall and Child Timelines that both species can exist at the same time. So my theory is that the River Zora eventually evolved into the Rito, while the Sea Zora stayed as they were. The Rito in BotW and TotK are clearly different from the Rito in WW, such as being born with wings rather than having to earn them, and generally being more birdlike than humanoid. The reason the Rito in BotW and TotK are naturally good at archery could potentially be an evolution of how River Zora were really accurate with their energy ball spitting. Just a thought.
I love this theory! I accept this as headcanon unless proven otherwise by lore in the future.
about the oracle games: apparently they retconned that this link is the one from alttp and la? according to zelda wiki, the Japanese version of the encyclopedia from 2017 says that. the first edition of the localized version says that oracle link is the same as alttp and la, but it was later updated to reflect the japanese. but i don't have the books myself lol but i generally find zelda wiki pretty reliable
Fun fact: Romani is can be found on day 2 of MM near the empty end (I think south) of the ranch. She will make her way home over the course of the day.
Hey bandit! I hope this is just the start of more Zelda content to come, I really miss your regular uploads!
New random thought: TOTK - Sacred stones are a shattered Triforce of Power.
Ganondorf in OoT and TP can transform into Ganon. Zelda and Ganondorf eat the stone and transform into dragons.
Only thought of this because you mentioned windwaker in the same video.
I could be very wrong XD.
ALTTP Link and Zelda were never implied to be siblings. Not only has this been debunked, but the rumor guy in albw talks about a painting of a previous hero and princess embracing, that albw Zelda has been caught looking fondly at. The manga of alttp also depicts them in a romantic light. Implying they got married by the final words. Never have they ever been siblings. Only friends and or romantic.
Ooh! You know what? That actually tracks with how many of the elder Zora treat you for "taking away" their beloved Mipha. They may not literally spit fire at you, but only their physical condition seems to keep them from "avenging" her.
Yeah, TP gave us the late Queen Rutala, OoT gave us Dampe', Koume, and Kotake, MM gave us Mikau, Darmani, Kamaro...
I still see link's awakening taking place after the oracle games
I like Gorons being this drastically different species of masculine intelligent rock people that reproduces through the earth itself
They reproduce asexually. That's how they still have lineages and families, but no sex.
@@xinpingdonohoe3978 I headcanon that they remove parts of their back, incubate it deep in high temperature, high pressure earth, and the piece expands into a baby Goron that's later dug out
@@commonviewer2488 there was concept art for Skyward Sword that had a Goron Elder, and tiny baby Gorons were falling off of his back rocks. They must be involved somehow.
@@commonviewer2488 They might also be born "from rocks" though and the reason why they have "fathers" and "brothers" is because they all belong to the same _rock breed_ creating a shared blood heritage between one another.
knew each one hehe
also, i like to consider gorons a little bit like dwarves in fantasy fiction - both sexes look similar and most women have beards as well. though personally i think it goes deeper than that - if there are any sex differences between gorons, there's no outward indication of it. since gorons can have biological kids and siblings, there's clearly some sort of dna passage/fertilization. because they're born from caves/rock/earth itself (which has always been a personal headcanon of mine so i love how totk validated it), i imagine they only really need one dna-donor. so it's possible all gorons have the same biology/sex, and no concept of gender because of it.
Gorons are very much like the Dwarves from the Lord of the Rings books and Tolkien Lore in general by been presented as mostly masculine in nature, miners by trade and always linked to mountains and caverns very much like the dwarven kind from Tolkien Lore.
I thought that the little gorons were the girls...
I think the rounded vs pointed ears thing with the Gerudo has to do with their specific worship of Hylia.
I would also include the Golden Goddesses as Ganondorf's ears became pointed after he obtained the Triforce of Power so it's definetly related to all the many gods within the Zelda pantheon.
That was a cool episode, I'd love you to make more like that Bandit!
I never really saw a love connection in BotW or TotK, her diary in both games implies she's jealous of or admires his courage and kinda resents her role as the Princess because of how restricted her life was in preparation for unlocking her power.
My theory is that Tingle is a real fairy who went insane and was cursed to reincarnate in a human body forever, only having faint dreams and delusions of his fairy days
But, so far as I know, he doesn't exist in TOTK.
my head cannon is that Gorons condense the rocks and minerals they eat inside their body and at some point, just poop new Gorons into existence.
A few things:
I always assumed that gorons reproduce asexually. With that, the idea of romance is completely lost on them.
My theory for why zora and rito can exist at the same time is because current rito are the evolution of the Loftwing. This would explain their general willingness to help hylians
Rito in wind waker are also less "evolved from" zora, and more "mutated from" zora due to exposure to Valoo's scales.
Yiga are part of the Shiekah race, exiled from the Shiekah tribe.
All theories are fan/head canon
Oh, the lore gets weirder than that.
As far as I have seen, the idea about the Goron females has been a fan reference to The Lord of the Rings, in relation to Dwarf women. I have never seen anyone say it came from an interview, until now.
It was explained in TotK that Purah and Robbie went around Hyrule and dismantled all Sheikah tech, which would have included all the divine beasts as well. They didn't just vanish into thin air.
They should do the next Zelda where you play as Ganondorf and take over Hyrule
That's the original Hyrule Warriors when you play as Ganondorf.
Ngl this is the first time I've bought something from a sponsor and I'm so glad it was our boy Bandit!!
I like to theorize that gorons are born from a volcano. Like every few years the volcano erupts and baby gorons come out. Then, adult gorons go to them and raise them
Fav theory about “Them”, they know the moon is about to destroy Termina. They’re saving the cows, but need knowledge on how to take care of them. And obviously need the memory of someone who loves them.
In Age of Calamity, there is a post-game mission in the gerudo town in which you can only choose female characters, Dark and Yunobo are allowed, I guess that settles it
(Terrako ca also participate, it might just be frobidden to males)
We can find Gorons in gerudo town, so take that as you will
i think the river zora evolved into the ones from botw and totk, while the sea zora evolved into the reto, explaining why medli's ancestor was the depiction of a sea zora from oot.
When it comes to people reincarnating outside the big 3 in Link, Zelda and Ganondorf, I've always liked to believe that in Impa's case it's not that she is always coming back as well but that the Sheikah, who are sworn to keep the royal bloodline safe, train and raise one of their own to be that "Impa". Making the name closer to a role or title given to the strongest Sheikah at the time.
Impa is a family name. The Impa family is the historic head family of the Sheikah. Those born into the family are handed the duties, not the other way round.
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How did I miss that in Windwaker, Tingle literally just practiced literal SLAVERY?!?!
the one that I didn't put together was that Zelda was different from Zelda I. Reading the stories, it makes sense. But that story isn't quite explained in game, so I thought they were the same one. Looking it up, the story seems to come from a comic. What's the source for the lore about Zelda I?
Ganondorf was asleep under the castle for a really long time, that's why he didn't have pointed ears
Song of Storms lore is my favorite. I love how they fit it in for Majoras Mask so kid link could bring it back to Hyrule
I'd been saying for years that Awakening fit better thematically before the Oracles considering at the start of each Oracle game Link is riding a random horse up to Hyrule Castle as though he's just come back from a hilariously long trip. We'll just never get that answer for why he set off on his "three hour tour" in the first place.
Loved this! All things Zelda immediately has my interest lol keep em coming 🔥
I always thought it was more of a spiritual evolution of the wind spirit from zora to rito. Is this fully supported in Wind Waker, not really. Does it make a lot more sense than fish evolving into birds to escape a flood? Yes, yes it does. I always thought if anything it was a small pocket if zora that stayed back and turned to birds, and the bulk of them just swam to somewhere else.
It's a magic water that's hard to swim and regular fish don't live, so Zora lost their main food source, meaning they probably had to start hunting birds, they also escaped to where Valoo's live, and he was the one who provided their wings, so they slowly became bird-like.
@@Mari_IzuI can't believe they just casually mention, ONCE, that there's no fish in the Great Sea. That's an absolutely bonkers world-building detail that did not get the narrative exploration it deserved.
I think the best way I've seen the Downfall Timeline explained during the events of OoT is that child Link drew the master sword and immediately went to fight Ganondorf. Obviously a kid wasn't ready, so he died and the Goddesses intervened with the redo button, this time sealing him away when he draws the sword for seven years. But his death still happened, so the Goddesses salvaged 1 out of 3 timelines from this whole mess.
10:06 to clarify that, no one actually broke the triforce. it was more of a test from the power itself to determine who would be worthy, each triforce has it's own way of determining who's worthy but sometimes they will do a trial like this. and skyward sword is technically the first event and the curse cast by the final boss (forgot their name) is what keeps link, zelda, and ganon coming back. until the time in which ganon defeats them both and satisfies the conditions of the curse that was cast. unfortunate that the land of hyrule keeps suffering because someone was a sore loser.
p.s. I only learned the recurring links/2 zelda' in the first game
I’m pretty sure that Monk Maz Koshia will actually react like that to any fruit, not just bananas.
So basically link dying and surviving in ocarina of time is a type of Dragon break? That resulted in the creation of fallen timeline.