can you do Supply Blocking to gm? do whatever strategy you want, but just focus on killing their supply buildings/overlords. fight/harass as normal but dont kill their buildings, just kill their supply buildings then leave their base lol and repeat until they leave. i bet people would get very salty lmao
i like these nostalgia episodes, but just a suggestion for future ones - maybe you can do them in regions where you didn't do the challenge? e.g. do bongcloud in NA, do marine medivac in EU, etc.
your games are so fun to watch lol. i have started playing again since finding your channel, although playing now feels weird compared to 10 years ago haha. good times though. keep it up!
Thank you so much for making this game so much fun for me to play again man. I haven't touched SC2 in years, and your videos not only got me back into it, but also got me to start winning in 1v1's. I enjoy doing mass marines now a little too much.
The bongcloud was called what it was because you'd have to have just taken a big rip off of a bong (and thus be really fucking high) to think it was a good idea.
Always fun with Thermy. Thanks for the constant content and cheer. God knows we could all use a little these days =-)) Thanks for NOT ruining MY day ! =)
for the record, the chess opening was named the BongCloud because the top players considered that you would have to be seriously stoned to think it was a good idea. Also, "veil" to rhyme with bale, hail, scale, male etc. English...it's special... And this episode was pure gold (as usual), thankee kindly for the entertainment!
Haha never thought of moving my base right at the beginning. Genius - for additional head-peck, try and wall-off the ramp leading up to the main immediately after bonging, so when they ground-scout they get even more confused.
the chess move is named Bongcloud partially because you would have to be stoned to use it as its really stupid. A couple people did it on purpose as a handicap. the move is to move your king on turn 2 into a terrible position. There was a guy online in chess named Lenny_Bongcloud who tried it a lot (and failed to win). The more famous uses of the move are grandmasters who were doing it as a handicap against lower ranked players.
Bongcloud comes from chess because one Grandmaster Paul Morphy back in 1845. It is called an "Opera game" where he plays against 2 dukes during an opera somewhere in France. He was winning a few games really easy, so he tried to spice up the game and flex on his opponents at the same time. So he took a fat rip from the bong and made the absolutely worst move possible - moving his king forward on move 2. This loses castling rights and exposes your king. I completely made that up btw, except the king move part.
Proxy gas to GM. That's where you drop a refinery on his third and bounce a couple of workers back and forth between the refinery and the minerals wasting his resources before he takes his third. The round trip between the nearest mineral patch and the refinery is about 3 times faster than to a base so you can waste the resources very quickly.
As a one-off challenge why not attempt to do the GoldBong? Just kite those SCV's a few more bases over and land your command center at the gold base. Nobody's every going to expect the GoldBong!
Thermy! Thanks for being the best SC2 TH-camr. And thanks for finally doing some Zerg content! One request I have is would you do more instructional-style videos? I try to copy your Zerg cheeses, but since there is no production tab, sometimes I can't precisely tell the build order.
I wonder what would happen if AlphaStar encountered the bongcloud. The "mental collapse" uthermal was talking about is called "off distribution activation" in machine learning and A.I.s could forget their learning and just fall over
Can't say anything about SC2 players, but it is very well known, that people are much ruder and more aggressive behind the screen and behind the wheel. It is linked to being anonymous / safe, so your hypothesis sounds very plausible. Barcode players could very well be more salty, simply because very few people will know who's being salty. Also thank you for all the great content! I haven't played Starcraft in easily 10 years, but always await your videos eagerly!
Uthermal. If I was playing and saw that you do those nice splits with ur units, I would just call it a gg too. I don’t blame the first zerg player lol😂
It's so funny to me that the protoss knew you, knew the build, and still reacted so badly to it. As you keep saying - the bongcloud is just a normal build but bad... all they have to do is play normal... hehehe
I have an idea for a showmatch. Ask some pro to organise a game between you and some other pro but you will both be barcodes, neither of you would know who do you play and your goal would be to discover who the other player is and win of course. Who guesses right first has the right to pick the next map, who guesses but is wrong automatically loses the map pick.
Marc I just wanna say, as a long time follower of your twitch and a father of 2 with no time for twitch or laddering anymore, you are the literally the last person I follow for content anymore as about 30 minutes episodes is all my lunch break allows me as far as free time go. I watch each day's episode religiously. Thank you for exceptional content and keeping the passion alive 12 years later! 🫡
I would love to see a Bongcloud where you take your base straight to a gold mineral field at the beginning. Would be a great test to see if getting the extra minerals at the beginning would really rocket you ahead around the 2 minute mark.
I guess the name bongcloud -- because in chess thats when you move the king forward on move two, similarly to moving the main forward in the beginning.
Another challenge that should be fun to watch would be a combination of the bong cloud and pf rush/proxy hatch - you go cc first at a distant location, preferably on the enemy's side of the map, and then build your base normally there. As an additional challenge, you could try to avoid building anything at all at the original site and try to move your original cc and workers to the new location asap.
I have similar theory that barcodes are weaker mentally, thus hiding their name gives them less anxiety. I noticed the same thing back in Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne days. There use to be this thing called spoofer that changes your name. Those were very often first to grief and give up.
Can you do walling to GM (every building has to be part of a wall). might be some interesting strategy. u might have to make an exception for turrets tho
When you do boomcloud? Boomclout? In future, can you show opponents POV at the end? I’d love to see where they’re looking when they scout and how they react with their camera lol
can you do Supply Blocking to gm? do whatever strategy you want, but just focus on killing their supply buildings/overlords. fight/harass as normal but dont kill their buildings, just kill their supply buildings then leave their base lol and repeat until they leave. i bet people would get very salty lmao
Play name could be NoSup4U
I want this so bad!!!
Harstem has done one-off of this before, he called it "Population control" and it's HILARIOUS. I would Love to see this as a series :)
DemolitionMaN, of course.
That's hilarious, I like this silly idea
protoss: so i've played this game as barcode against bongcloud
psychologist: it's okay, it's not your fault
*credit card declines*
psychologist: Quad nuke mass ghosts it is
I don't even play this game or know what's happening, but your content is so entertaining I follow-up with every upload!:) Keep it up ❤️
Me too, I'm terrible at game
Same lmao
its a fun game, now free to play!
Same 🤣
Same😁
Man the Protoss at the last game knew who he was dealing with, expected some sort of cheese AND still got bitter about it. This man knows uThermal!
I feel like his comments were tongue in cheek since he knew who it was :P
@@ChezzyKnytt He was giving him a good title for the youtube algorithm :) The salt always sells lol
This Bongcloud game....
The name........
Awesome....
Dude was not bitter. He was super excited to be playing against Marc.
@@ChezzyKnytt exactly! He definitely helped uThermal with the title!
Knowing the fact you're about to be turned into youtube material is probably increasing his head pressure faster than seeing the bongcloud.
Bongcloud opening forces enemy to self-destruct... truly one of the most dangerous mindgames in Starcraft
Barcode has become the universal symbol for insecurity.
The bongcloud opening is named after the fact that you need to take massive bong hit to think this opening is a good idea.
Thermy's cheerful disposition is infectious. I feel like listening to him is a pretty decent mild anti depressant.
"I didn't even beat him: he *DESTROYED* himself." That had me rolling! 🤣
Discovered this channel recently. I'm now addicted :D
Thank you for this amazing content
That TvT was so intense!! Was on the edge of my seat the entire time lol. You moved your army like a game of chess with your opponent. Beautiful
TvT are always the best to watch like chess moves
you are so consistent as a content creator! keep it up, you are doomed to success 🙌🏽🙌🏽
"bound" to succeed*
@@Codex_0613 yes that would be a viable alternative way to say it but "doomed to success" is indubitably better
Now every time I trade a unit or two in a game I say “we take those, guys”
It's called Bongcloud because you'd have to be high to do it
Gelukkig nieuw jaar en dank voor je heerlijke content, ik kijk er altijd met veel plezier naar!
Yooo dankjewel man :D
Are you having a stroke?
@@uThermal I have a dutch rabbit! 🥰
I have no idea how pronounce basically anything of what you just typed, but I love it anyways.
marc, your starcraft brain is A+. The way you can predict your opponents moves, and counter AND add commentary is just amazing.
i like these nostalgia episodes, but just a suggestion for future ones - maybe you can do them in regions where you didn't do the challenge? e.g. do bongcloud in NA, do marine medivac in EU, etc.
your games are so fun to watch lol. i have started playing again since finding your channel, although playing now feels weird compared to 10 years ago haha. good times though. keep it up!
"I didn't even beat him; he destroyed himself."
Your tactics of mindfuckery worked really well.
great challenges, so much fun!!! What about a "lose no game to GM" series? No restrictions, except if you lose, you start over.
I haven't enjoyed SC 2 since Wings of Liberty ended, but your series make me tempted to try again anyways.
Thank you so much for making this game so much fun for me to play again man.
I haven't touched SC2 in years, and your videos not only got me back into it, but also got me to start winning in 1v1's.
I enjoy doing mass marines now a little too much.
The bongcloud was called what it was because you'd have to have just taken a big rip off of a bong (and thus be really fucking high) to think it was a good idea.
Always fun with Thermy. Thanks for the constant content and cheer. God knows we could all use a little these days =-)) Thanks for NOT ruining MY day ! =)
Would love to see a mothership recall rush sometime in the future. Always entertaining content uthermal!
for the record, the chess opening was named the BongCloud because the top players considered that you would have to be seriously stoned to think it was a good idea.
Also, "veil" to rhyme with bale, hail, scale, male etc. English...it's special...
And this episode was pure gold (as usual), thankee kindly for the entertainment!
Very good man! I use your strategies on ladder and they're amazing!
Oh look, another day of winning every "This is looking bad, probably going to lose this one" game
I used to play chess and I never heard of the BongCloud. However hilarious to know about and awesome to see worked into an RTS version. Great content
I love your transition wrap ups. "Let's do it" never sounded better
In that last one I love the idea that the guy saw you had reapers and knew that in your hands he had no chance XD
Haha never thought of moving my base right at the beginning. Genius - for additional head-peck, try and wall-off the ramp leading up to the main immediately after bonging, so when they ground-scout they get even more confused.
Dude, you are a so humble guy, that's it's a delight to ear you. Thanks, from Franc,e for your vidéos. ;)
Love all your different series uThermal! Thanks for your entertainment!
the chess move is named Bongcloud partially because you would have to be stoned to use it as its really stupid. A couple people did it on purpose as a handicap. the move is to move your king on turn 2 into a terrible position. There was a guy online in chess named Lenny_Bongcloud who tried it a lot (and failed to win). The more famous uses of the move are grandmasters who were doing it as a handicap against lower ranked players.
Bongcloud comes from chess because one Grandmaster Paul Morphy back in 1845. It is called an "Opera game" where he plays against 2 dukes during an opera somewhere in France. He was winning a few games really easy, so he tried to spice up the game and flex on his opponents at the same time. So he took a fat rip from the bong and made the absolutely worst move possible - moving his king forward on move 2. This loses castling rights and exposes your king. I completely made that up btw, except the king move part.
very suspicious
well played
Nothing better than waking up to some reaper action
Always great seeing some bongcloud sprinkled into the uploads!
uThermal: let me play some bongcloud for an ep.
EU Ladder: we surrender, not again
Proxy gas to GM. That's where you drop a refinery on his third and bounce a couple of workers back and forth between the refinery and the minerals wasting his resources before he takes his third. The round trip between the nearest mineral patch and the refinery is about 3 times faster than to a base so you can waste the resources very quickly.
You making some of the best and consistent content for the community man. Keep on with it, cheers
Bongcloud mind implosion at its finest.
I imagine winning a bongcloud game vs babymarine felt pretty damn good 😍
ghost to gm - completed
penguin bros - completed
bongcloud - completed
terran cheese - on deck
As a one-off challenge why not attempt to do the GoldBong? Just kite those SCV's a few more bases over and land your command center at the gold base. Nobody's every going to expect the GoldBong!
The chess opening is called the bongcloud because you'd have to be high to play a move that bad. 😂
"How do you like your salt served sir"?
"I prefer it Medium because that is also quite rare at the same time".
Bong cloud to GM 2.0: Marc hits the bong before each match and makes up the ‘highest’ strategy he can 💨 💨 💨
I'd die if Marc actually did this. Lmaooo
The Bongcloud Mentals broke his brain in half omg
Nice content as always, thanks for positive attitude!
Thermy! Thanks for being the best SC2 TH-camr. And thanks for finally doing some Zerg content! One request I have is would you do more instructional-style videos? I try to copy your Zerg cheeses, but since there is no production tab, sometimes I can't precisely tell the build order.
I wonder what would happen if AlphaStar encountered the bongcloud. The "mental collapse" uthermal was talking about is called "off distribution activation" in machine learning and A.I.s could forget their learning and just fall over
I thought wearing a pineapple shirt was a requirement to play the bongcloud, but man, you pulled it off.
Marc literally doesn't care.
Can't say anything about SC2 players, but it is very well known, that people are much ruder and more aggressive behind the screen and behind the wheel. It is linked to being anonymous / safe, so your hypothesis sounds very plausible. Barcode players could very well be more salty, simply because very few people will know who's being salty.
Also thank you for all the great content! I haven't played Starcraft in easily 10 years, but always await your videos eagerly!
This episode felt very short:D Cheers Marc
Uthermal. If I was playing and saw that you do those nice splits with ur units, I would just call it a gg too.
I don’t blame the first zerg player lol😂
It's so funny to me that the protoss knew you, knew the build, and still reacted so badly to it. As you keep saying - the bongcloud is just a normal build but bad... all they have to do is play normal... hehehe
Undefeated king of mental warfare. Uthermal with the savage strats.
The Bongcloud REALLY messed with his mental.
my goood the play at 4:30 is worth replaying 100 times
These videos nourish my soul
I have an idea for a showmatch. Ask some pro to organise a game between you and some other pro but you will both be barcodes, neither of you would know who do you play and your goal would be to discover who the other player is and win of course. Who guesses right first has the right to pick the next map, who guesses but is wrong automatically loses the map pick.
A player thinks he's lost, he definitely could win but goes like "thanks for ruining my day"...
The major benefit of the bongcloud is that it makes your disrespect of your opponent perfectly clear, for flexing purposes.
Never stop talking. I love this content, Marc
Thank you. I love nostalgia episodes!!!
Marc I just wanna say, as a long time follower of your twitch and a father of 2 with no time for twitch or laddering anymore, you are the literally the last person I follow for content anymore as about 30 minutes episodes is all my lunch break allows me as far as free time go. I watch each day's episode religiously. Thank you for exceptional content and keeping the passion alive 12 years later! 🫡
This is hilarious, I wonder if it would be slightly more viable if you kept the base on the ground until your rax starts
Love the bong cloud one of my favorite challenges thank you
So it turns out your worse enemy really IS yourself after all.
I would love to see a Bongcloud where you take your base straight to a gold mineral field at the beginning. Would be a great test to see if getting the extra minerals at the beginning would really rocket you ahead around the 2 minute mark.
Such a long trip for the CC, I feel early enemies might just dunk on him. However, I think it would probably punish greedy builds, and poor scouting.
You'd be so far behind on SCVs because of the travel time, I don't think you'd catch back up before the golden minerals ran out.
genius commentary uThermal!! love for stuff:)
Best SC2 TH-camr hands down!
I guess the name bongcloud -- because in chess thats when you move the king forward on move two, similarly to moving the main forward in the beginning.
barcode gracken'd himself
Man, do whatever you want, just narrate, have fun and we will be here, having fun with you... :D
its called the bong cloud in chess I would imagine because you would have to be extremely high AF off some serious bong tokes to ever make that move.
The name of that chess opening seems mainly random. Somebody suggested it in Nakamura's twitch-chat, which is what essentially made it popular.
That first hold in the first game is outrageous
The last match showed the real power of bong cloud
llmao that guys salt made me so happpy . good job marc
This backdoor depot scv save was awesome.
Lol that was some friendly salt from the toss
Really cool games today, great evening bonus to watch! 👏👍💣
As a chess player I appreciate the name and game play!
Seeing the Protoss player rage quit made me smile. The only good 'tosser, is a salty 'tosser!
Protoss challenge idea: Capes to grandmaster
the main army needs be a unit that wears a cape, so high templar, dark templar, and adepts
your terran is sick brother
great content as always
these are hilarious videos thanks for making them. best sc2 content
Another challenge that should be fun to watch would be a combination of the bong cloud and pf rush/proxy hatch - you go cc first at a distant location, preferably on the enemy's side of the map, and then build your base normally there. As an additional challenge, you could try to avoid building anything at all at the original site and try to move your original cc and workers to the new location asap.
I have similar theory that barcodes are weaker mentally, thus hiding their name gives them less anxiety.
I noticed the same thing back in Warcraft 3 Frozen Throne days. There use to be this thing called spoofer that changes your name. Those were very often first to grief and give up.
If you managed to actually get the win in on a name spoofer before they purposefully dropped, it was a good day
Can you do walling to GM (every building has to be part of a wall). might be some interesting strategy. u might have to make an exception for turrets tho
Haha. Played an online game and lost and it ruined his day. I don't think I've ever won an online game.
What Did I Even Do?! loll, ahaha hilarious loll
When you do boomcloud? Boomclout? In future, can you show opponents POV at the end? I’d love to see where they’re looking when they scout and how they react with their camera lol
This build is a cannoning rushing Protoss' wet dream.
Love your vids! Keep it up!
Last guy is the Idra of Protoss.
What a succesful episode