This is one of the best and easier pitch to learn, that I've seen. I coach a 10yo team and showed it to a couple of kids who have hard time learning the change-up grip. One of them threw this one-seamer 3 times in a row to the best hitter in our league and fooled him every single time. THANKS!
My 13 year old son has a low 3/4 arm slot, but we will give it a try. The sinker he throws now requires him to pronate as it’s released. Great video. Thanks!
I started throwing this pitch last year and had a lot of success with it. Very easy to throw, throw it just like your 4 seam. The key is definitely your grip. I had a lot of batters ask me, "what pitch was that?" Lots of jam shots
I've been teaching to he is pitch to my kids for a few years now. I was throwing this for my slider but since I'm more 3/4 it moves more to the side. I try and have the kids think of it as a fastball that has late mocement. As most kids have different releases and grip strength it moves differently for each kid. Sometimes it is more of a vertical drop and other times it is more like a cutter. Good luck and try it out.
My son loves watching off-speed pitchers, and wants to add another elbow-safe pitch for spring. Would you list out a progression of pitches to learn? For reference, he’s a 8yo minor’s pitcher, with 45+ 4-seam FB and a circle change up. His consistent mechanics is because of you. THANK YOU!!
It seems these days that every aspiring pitcher who has tommy john surgery comes back stronger than before, almost bionic. Maybe you should consider tommy john for your 8 yo. By the time he gets to little league he should be unhittable, with that kind of pitching arsenal already.
Great video. I actually wonder if Sebastian would get even more drop if he moved his index finger to on top of the one seam in order to get more rotation.
Nice video Coach Madden. Though...there's a slight difference in his mechanics/arm slot (see side by side video), prior in releasing the ball. The difference starts when Sebastian has his leg lift, breaks (4.48) and starts cocking (4.53). With the 4-seam his hand is way much back than when he's throwing the 1-seam sinker. Also his release of the 1-seam sinker is higher/earlier than the 4-seam (4.55).....minor details that only a very very good hitter can pick-up. What I most liked was the difference on the vertical break compared to the 4-seam, also a good pitch to teach kids (age 12-15) to throw instead of the curve ball, less stress on the arm.
It kinda moves the same way that the Vulcan changeup that you taught me moves, I’ve got a tournament today so I’ll definitely mess around with the pitch in warm ups
I always wonder more about the release, and whether you rotate anything, fingers, wrist or arm, can you talk about the release? It took me a while to understand what creates movement even on fast pitches!
Hold it a little bit tighter and a bit farther into the palm. I used to call it my “main curve” as it dropped better than my curveball. I keep my fingers close together, and on the dominant side of the two seam grip. (For me, a lefty, the left seam) you don’t have to go all the way down on the horseshoe, stay in the middle. There should be no release or wrist action different than your 4 seam. Throw about 70-80% velocity of your 4 seam, and it’s a very successful pitch. I’ll subscribe to you, so try to make a video for what you think the grip is and dissect how you would throw it. I’ll comment and try to help you more.
Hey thanks Coach Madden that was great. Going to have my son try that got my 10-year-old trying to hold it that way and I’ll get my 13-year-old it throws about 80 now to try it. He need something that’s our speed.
I think it just another form of forks ball/splitter as the theory behind them are both about lessening the spin rate and magnus force,so the ball can drop when approaching the zone,however, it’s still a cool pitch 👍
I know the arm action and spin are different for the 1 seam versus a curve, but isn't the ball movement very similar to a 12-6 curve ball? Also higher velocity than curve.
Fred Mertz No the one seamer has backspin, a curveball has forward spin. If you are talking about the movement of the pitch then yes I guess you could say that. But I think a good Sinker beats a good curveball. But that’s just my opinion.
In my mind, at least, I agree with you that a sinker should be better than a curve. My pitching coach wants the CB velocity no more than 15% below the velocity of the 4-seam FB. At my current age (15), it is hard to reach that consistently. Our 2-seam FB and sinker is only about 2-3 mph (low 70's) below the velocity of the 4-seam FB (mid-70's), so I expect the velocity of a 1-seam pitch to be close to the velocity of the 2-seam pitches, for us at least. And I have to pronate the 2-seam sinker to get much movement of the pitch (down and slight arm-side movement). So, the 1-seam pitch should be faster than my curve, about as fast as my 2-seam pitches, a bit easier on my arm and much more consistent than my curve. All, IMHO, of course.
@@cantripleplays Cantriple Plays - I didn’t play Showcase or Travel Ball in the last year. My HS coach only calls 4 seam, curve and change-up so I was not allowed to throw it in BP or game situations. I played Jr. Legion ball, but one of my HS coaches was the pitching coach so that ruined that opportunity.
thx for that brother the grip feels lovely on my hand and love the downward action he gets gonna give it a go..I find when i'm more violent with the glove side in my delivery it helps me create more pro nation when throwing my 2 seamer/sinker is that something u think about as well?
There's different types of 4 seamers... he's talking about a 'wide' 4 seamer where you put your fingers across the widest part of the seams. When I throw a wide 4 seamer I get a lot of downward movement so I use that grip for my sinker. I use a 'narrow' 4 seamer for my straight pitch.
Would this be a good pitch to teach 11-12 year olds since it's the same arm action as a fastball? I know 11-12 old shouldn't learn a curve and I wanted to throw something in besides a 4 seam and change-up so I was looking at this pitch
That’s nasty. The bottom falls out from under it at the end. He’s gonna have a lot of batters looking for holes in the bat on the way back to the dugout after they strike out. Love you stuff. Wish I would’ve had it 35 or so years ago. But I had Joe Donaldson helping me. He pitched in college and the minors... so, I had that going for me. Thanks again.
From experience if you can’t throw this pitch correctly 100% of the time don’t even try it. As a hitter when pitchers could throw this correctly it was the hardest thing to hit, but if they messed up once, then it was just a BP fast ball
@@jaynuttsdad742 I've done that. That's why I'm seeking further advice. Im sure it's just scare tissue and shit from playing pretty much non stop for 20+ years, but it sucks lol
There’s nothing like the circle Pedro Martinez change up sinker what ever you want to call it I made lots of batters swing at this great pitch remember all this pitches are not made for strikes only if you are lucky they are made for the batter to chase them
Sensation also broke his hands before he went forward, really well. He stayed back, got loaded on his backside, not drifting forward and walking away from his arm, which allows his arm to get up, so he’s on top of the ball and throwing down hill. I would have liked to see his 1 seam change up. Other topics: Hip explosion(Dak Prescott drill) Bent landing leg vs stiff and catapult Short armers that drift forward and throw in the 100’s, middle relief vs starters who stay back and give their arms time to get up. Contrasting their longevity and different arm injuries. What makes a knuckle curve ball different What made Barry Zito’s curve ball so good. What happens to sinker/ slider pitchers Famous spit-ballers Why some great hitters can hit a hanging slider, Mike Schmidt Drop and drive pitchers keeping your back knee down and driving towards the plate vs back leg coming around Getting underneath the ball, dropping the elbow and ball taking off Flying open and how to stay closed Not coming around the ball but driving through it How umpires call a game, gotta throw to their zone, don’t show up the umpire How to teach a kid to step and throw, and other basics for Little Leaguers
Check out Pro Pitcher Craig Stem and how he throws this One Seam POWER SINKER at 95+ mph!👉 th-cam.com/video/9vFFMKPaPi4/w-d-xo.html
Great vid, this has helped me alot with my sinker. One question, do you know what he is hitting velocity wise with the sinker?
Definitely a must save video to show my son in a couple years, he's 4 still.
More like 8-10 years.
Haha 🤣
You should try it first I did and I couldn’t get it to drop but I might just need more practice
If your son knows how to throw a sinker in the minor he will strike almost every kid out
Edit: minors
Definitely a must save video to show my son in a couple of years, he’s still in the womb 😂
Thoughtful kid. Seems like he's got an old school approach to pitching. Rare nowadays
“This is heavier and stuff” a man that articulates the way i do! I like this guy and this one Seam sinker
This is one of the best and easier pitch to learn, that I've seen. I coach a 10yo team and showed it to a couple of kids who have hard time learning the change-up grip. One of them threw this one-seamer 3 times in a row to the best hitter in our league and fooled him every single time. THANKS!
It's my senior year this year. I'm going to try this pitch out for sure
Nolifer3000 rip they probably canceled all your games
@@davidbartlett5564 actually NCAA is giving seniors another year of sports
@@wxstleyyy9870 really? dang
Did your ERA go up?
My 13 year old son has a low 3/4 arm slot, but we will give it a try. The sinker he throws now requires him to pronate as it’s released. Great video. Thanks!
Damn. I haven't seen a Reebok glove in a minute
I started throwing this pitch last year and had a lot of success with it. Very easy to throw, throw it just like your 4 seam. The key is definitely your grip. I had a lot of batters ask me, "what pitch was that?" Lots of jam shots
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Do more crazy Japanese grips for pitchers
I'm a lefty pitcher and I've been doing some Japanese grips and I've been doing great i would like to learn more crazy Japanese pitches
Definently adding this to my arsenal. No pronation required? Oh heck yeah!
I've been throwing this pitch since last spring because I found it out on a different video and it has worked amazing for me
That’s a sick pitch. Nick Said he’s going to try it. Thanks Coach!
Mark Paquette You’re welcome! Let me know how it goes!
@@YouGoPro Can I throw a sinker from a 3 quarter slot?
I've been teaching to he is pitch to my kids for a few years now. I was throwing this for my slider but since I'm more 3/4 it moves more to the side. I try and have the kids think of it as a fastball that has late mocement. As most kids have different releases and grip strength it moves differently for each kid. Sometimes it is more of a vertical drop and other times it is more like a cutter. Good luck and try it out.
Great pitch, I love the drop. Thank you
Jesse Estrada 👊😉
a very great pitch I tried it in a game and it was untouchable... especially if your catcher is a very smart catcher
I’ve thrown that same pitch since ‘93! 🤣🤣
Pitches thrown in this video:
1:26 1 Seam Sinker
4:20 4 seam
4:27 1 Seam Sinker
4:37 4 seam
4:44 Comparison of 1 Seam Sinker & 4 Seam Fastball
5:01 1 Seam Sinker ( Slow-motion )
thank you!
@@jaykaysr9225 no problem!
My son loves watching off-speed pitchers, and wants to add another elbow-safe pitch for spring. Would you list out a progression of pitches to learn?
For reference, he’s a 8yo minor’s pitcher, with 45+ 4-seam FB and a circle change up. His consistent mechanics is because of you. THANK YOU!!
It seems these days that every aspiring pitcher who has tommy john surgery comes back stronger than before, almost bionic. Maybe you should consider tommy john for your 8 yo. By the time he gets to little league he should be unhittable, with that kind of pitching arsenal already.
Nice downward late movement. It's nasty and agree with John that is arm safe. Thanks to both of you for sharing.:-)
Great video. I actually wonder if Sebastian would get even more drop if he moved his index finger to on top of the one seam in order to get more rotation.
Nice video Coach Madden. Though...there's a slight difference in his mechanics/arm slot (see side by side video), prior in releasing the ball. The difference starts when Sebastian has his leg lift, breaks (4.48) and starts cocking (4.53). With the 4-seam his hand is way much back than when he's throwing the 1-seam sinker. Also his release of the 1-seam sinker is higher/earlier than the 4-seam (4.55).....minor details that only a very very good hitter can pick-up. What I most liked was the difference on the vertical break compared to the 4-seam, also a good pitch to teach kids (age 12-15) to throw instead of the curve ball, less stress on the arm.
Excellent well explained video!! Gonna go try this with my son today! Use it for our next game. Thanks 👍👍
Fascinating: will definitely try the one seam sinker and change up
Great pitch and not harmful to arm. 👍
Thanks for this I am just learning how to throw these pitches
Nice late movement! I didn't think it would work. Lol... I'll see how my son likes it. Hopefully it's something we can add.
Can you make a strictly sidearm pitcher video
You should do a video of you throwing it and telling us some techniques to make it sink even more.
It kinda moves the same way that the Vulcan changeup that you taught me moves, I’ve got a tournament today so I’ll definitely mess around with the pitch in warm ups
Thanks for the info that was a awsome pitch
I always wonder more about the release, and whether you rotate anything, fingers, wrist or arm, can you talk about the release? It took me a while to understand what creates movement even on fast pitches!
Hold it a little bit tighter and a bit farther into the palm. I used to call it my “main curve” as it dropped better than my curveball. I keep my fingers close together, and on the dominant side of the two seam grip. (For me, a lefty, the left seam) you don’t have to go all the way down on the horseshoe, stay in the middle. There should be no release or wrist action different than your 4 seam. Throw about 70-80% velocity of your 4 seam, and it’s a very successful pitch. I’ll subscribe to you, so try to make a video for what you think the grip is and dissect how you would throw it. I’ll comment and try to help you more.
Woah, this will come in handy!
Hey thanks Coach Madden that was great. Going to have my son try that got my 10-year-old trying to hold it that way and I’ll get my 13-year-old it throws about 80 now to try it. He need something that’s our speed.
Thank you, sir! Will definitely share and teach this to my little man!
Man im not a pitcher but that was incredible bro really amazing pitch and just so satisfying to watch bro
excellent pitch, gonna try this myself
Finally a left handed, so its easier for me to understand movement and stuff
Great clip! Like it a lot!
You were in my stomping grounds in south Louisiana. Im just south of the lake Pontchartrain
Great vid bro
Nice pitch!, definitely safe for the arm
That’s Blake Treinen’s and zack Brittons sinker
Brad Keller throws a one seam as well
Yea a late break on a 101 one seam sinker... idk about u but that's a no bueno for me when batting. I ain't trynna hit that
yea zack was who i learned it from
Not to mention mike saroka’s sinker is so filth
I think it just another form of forks ball/splitter as the theory behind them are both about lessening the spin rate and magnus force,so the ball can drop when approaching the zone,however, it’s still a cool pitch 👍
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Is the grip opposite for righties
Looks like a split finger fast ball cool pitch
Appreciate the video!!
Real life Sawamura from the Anime Diamond no Ace 💙💙💙
Great video!!!!
Good for a 14 youth ..
I know the arm action and spin are different for the 1 seam versus a curve, but isn't the ball movement very similar to a 12-6 curve ball? Also higher velocity than curve.
Fred Mertz No the one seamer has backspin, a curveball has forward spin. If you are talking about the movement of the pitch then yes I guess you could say that. But I think a good Sinker beats a good curveball. But that’s just my opinion.
In my mind, at least, I agree with you that a sinker should be better than a curve. My pitching coach wants the CB velocity no more than 15% below the velocity of the 4-seam FB. At my current age (15), it is hard to reach that consistently. Our 2-seam FB and sinker is only about 2-3 mph (low 70's) below the velocity of the 4-seam FB (mid-70's), so I expect the velocity of a 1-seam pitch to be close to the velocity of the 2-seam pitches, for us at least. And I have to pronate the 2-seam sinker to get much movement of the pitch (down and slight arm-side movement). So, the 1-seam pitch should be faster than my curve, about as fast as my 2-seam pitches, a bit easier on my arm and much more consistent than my curve. All, IMHO, of course.
@@fredmertz2175 have you tried it yet?
@@cantripleplays Cantriple Plays - I didn’t play Showcase or Travel Ball in the last year. My HS coach only calls 4 seam, curve and change-up so I was not allowed to throw it in BP or game situations. I played Jr. Legion ball, but one of my HS coaches was the pitching coach so that ruined that opportunity.
Is there more pressure applied to the index or middle finger to get more action?
thx for that brother the grip feels lovely on my hand and love the downward action he gets gonna give it a go..I find when i'm more violent with the glove side in my delivery it helps me create more pro nation when throwing my 2 seamer/sinker is that something u think about as well?
Steve Almonte I never did that personally but it makes sense.
This pitch is straight $$ homie!
There's different types of 4 seamers... he's talking about a 'wide' 4 seamer where you put your fingers across the widest part of the seams. When I throw a wide 4 seamer I get a lot of downward movement so I use that grip for my sinker. I use a 'narrow' 4 seamer for my straight pitch.
Imma try this pitch when I start playing
Awesome!
The one seam release was actually higher and yet he had to chase the catch at the conclusion, which typifies a great sinker.
Does it has any benefit to a side arm pitcher?
Julian Lai different spin will change how the batter sees the ball
Can batters pick up the spin on this after a while?
Would this be a good pitch to teach 11-12 year olds since it's the same arm action as a fastball? I know 11-12 old shouldn't learn a curve and I wanted to throw something in besides a 4 seam and change-up so I was looking at this pitch
Differently going to teach my youngster that great for his arm
Does the finger length affect the pitch?
Does hight affect velocity?
That was an awesome pitch with little to no stress on the throwing arm. Very nice Sebastian!
My 11 yo now throws it thank you
Like a taugth to my son..batters and catcher got crazy
I always thought and threw the one seam as a cutter
I wonder do I still have movement on my slider. 🤔🤔🤔
Nice, I'll try it :)
Do you need a pony tail for it to work?
what if you try to spin the pitch. Like a curveball
Austin Nipper 🤷♂️
¿ how fas was that pitch ? just wondering if I could trow a one seam sinker with my 70 miles arm
u can ..u might want to if 70 isnt considered fast for ur league
That’s nasty. The bottom falls out from under it at the end. He’s gonna have a lot of batters looking for holes in the bat on the way back to the dugout after they strike out. Love you stuff. Wish I would’ve had it 35 or so years ago. But I had Joe Donaldson helping me. He pitched in college and the minors... so, I had that going for me. Thanks again.
From experience if you can’t throw this pitch correctly 100% of the time don’t even try it. As a hitter when pitchers could throw this correctly it was the hardest thing to hit, but if they messed up once, then it was just a BP fast ball
How would this work out for righty’s?
Jesse Ferreira same effect
Can u tell me how to knuckle curve
Same as a curve but your pointer finger is curled
It depends, I throw mine like a fastball but I pull down with my middle finger at release.
Any advice for a guy who's been out of the game for 7 years and is now playing adult baseball and his shoulder is sore after he pitches?
Synyster Goose stretch
@@jaynuttsdad742 I've done that. That's why I'm seeking further advice. Im sure it's just scare tissue and shit from playing pretty much non stop for 20+ years, but it sucks lol
In your offseason, I would work on strengthening your scapula, rotator cuffs, and shoulders. Preventative maintenance is best practice.
retire lol
@@LITMOVIESCENES oof haha
i wish you would've kept this secret. my son put a lot of batters in chairs with this pitch for the last 2 seasons
I have a grandson that pitches in high school I will show him how to throw this pitch
It’s different for righty’s
This kid is a STEM major.
One seam was created by sugano of yomiuri giants as one if the makyu(magic ball)
There’s nothing like the circle Pedro Martinez change up sinker what ever you want to call it I made lots of batters swing at this great pitch remember all this pitches are not made for strikes only if you are lucky they are made for the batter to chase them
I think this pitch should be thrown higher so it slides lately into the box👍
フォーシームの軌道と比べると凄く沈んでるのが良く分かる
Sensation also broke his hands before he went forward, really well. He stayed back, got loaded on his backside, not drifting forward and walking away from his arm, which allows his arm to get up, so he’s on top of the ball and throwing down hill. I would have liked to see his 1 seam change up.
Other topics:
Hip explosion(Dak Prescott drill)
Bent landing leg vs stiff and catapult
Short armers that drift forward and throw in the 100’s, middle relief vs starters who stay back and give their arms time to get up. Contrasting their longevity and different arm injuries.
What makes a knuckle curve ball different
What made Barry Zito’s curve ball so good.
What happens to sinker/ slider pitchers
Famous spit-ballers
Why some great hitters can hit a hanging slider, Mike Schmidt
Drop and drive pitchers
keeping your back knee down and driving towards the plate vs back leg coming around
Getting underneath the ball, dropping the elbow and ball taking off
Flying open and how to stay closed
Not coming around the ball but driving through it
How umpires call a game, gotta throw to their zone, don’t show up the umpire
How to teach a kid to step and throw, and other basics for Little Leaguers
I think nowadays this pitch usually ends landing at more than 400 ft from home plate….
what bbcor bats is he breaking lol
Damn I could hardly tell the difference in form! Give him a nasty 2 seam and he’s gonna dominate!
did you play college baseball
I just don’t really see the difference though the way you throw the 1 seam and the 4 seam makes it look like you’re throwing the exact same pitch
Trying like hell to get my 13 yo to throw this pitch! If not, I'll start getting my 10 yo to do it.
I live in lousiana
A southpaw one
This isn’t new I’ve always thrown this pitch
FireBirdA23 he never said it was new
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Pero pensando
Show me a Reuben channels
Church.
This guy is NASTY!
He sounds like Josh Donaldson lmfao
Great video... but bruh get a haircut!!
Gotch 71 No way, he got that flowww!
YouGoProBaseball Or “moss” as Eckersley calls it. 😂
Pro Tip: Always wear a cup when catching a nasty pitcher like Seb.