Personally, I think both of them are pretty great! Soundwave is definitely the weaker one, but I still think hes a pretty good figure in his own right, even if his proportions are kinda wacky.
Possible tip for Soundwave: there are tabs inside of the torso that the front wheels go into for robot mode. They are very easy to miss, but that might be part of why yours doesn't like to stay solid. They are around the collar area. As for my opinion of these two, I really like them. I have them, and Prime might be my figure of the year, even with his unfortunately poorly executed accessories. I am also a Reactivate Soundwave defender, but I agree that with a voyager budget he could be a lot better. Like I would have loved if the feet folded into the leg for the vehicle, that way he could also get that extra ankle articulation in robot.
@@pat1r1ckit is indeed a deluxe, just big for his class. The two packs are $63 USD, which breaks down to 1 voyager and 1 deluxe per pack, with 3 extra dollars for better quality compared to the rest of Generations right now.
@@pat1r1ck Yes, which makes him bigger. That's how size works. Ok, sarcasm aside, he stands taller than even 86 Hotrod. Even with better proportions, he'd be a large deluxe, which is a great thing.
“Idk man Soundwave looks pretty good with its proportions to me-“ *shows front view* “OH SWEET PRIMUS” He really doesn’t look that bad at any angle that isn’t directly ahead of him😅
Honestly, soundwave has a very interesting design choice with the chest becoming the hood of the suv. That means that, if included in the game, the casetticons would be coming from the engine or become the engine of the vehicle mode. That intrigues me.
Ss102 is the worst Optimus for me, all the articulation is dogshit and the vehicle mode is just as bad. All the transformation with the legs are pointless and just look horrible in truck mode. They should've just resused the same transformation scheme as the earthrise figure
Your reviews are so damn good, my dude. Like, there's Thew who just gets color design and the aesthetic space of robot dolls over the last 40-odd years. And there's you, who seems to have a connoisseur's appreciation for the engineering that goes into making the puzzle aspect of puzzle-dolls a worthwhile reason for grown-ups to want them. Thank you for sharing your love and your understanding with us.
When you brought up the fact that you didn’t know why nobody tried the new leg transformation method for prime I immediately knew the answer: tradition. Optimus has always transformed that way with the exception of a few, these designers knew that there was only so much that could be done and decided to break tradition for the sake of a better looking altmode.
I have been singing this two-pack's praises, because God DAMN Does that Optimus look FINE and that Soundwave look good. P.S. I actually kinda dig the bloated look on Soundwave. It just sits right with me So, status update. I now have the two pack and i gotta say, they are both fantastic! Optimus is just straight up a micro-masterpiece, and Soundwave is an excellent deluxe.
Just one thing, sorry to be that guy, but the wheels that store inside the shell on Soundwave are very misstransformed out of the pakaging and that may be the issue youre having. You arent meant to turn the whole wheel fully inside the torsoe, the wheels are meant to stay with the wheel facing out like they are in car mode inside the torse. There are a set of tabs that go into the underside of the panel Soundwaves head is attached to, and that should lock the torso in place and make it look a lot more flush. Its hard to explain properly, but just move the front wheels around inner hinge they have
Late comment, but I was having issues with this as well and thought I'd check the comments on this video and see if there was a better explanation. I can't believe that's ACTUALLY how you transform it
Why does Optimus' head look like his Battle master version, he looks like he plays Football and I actually like. Now I want to see him play football again at the end of the game, that'll be hilarious to see.
With sound wave I also had an issue with tabbing his back in, the trick I did that got it to work is rather than inverting the wheels in robot mode I condensed them and everything just held together a lot better
Something I’ve wanted to see Soundwave as for a while is an APC, armored personnel carrier. As I think it would be cool if his minions came out of the hatch which would also become his chest.
I have to ask…. Why the prime vs prime music in the background during the first minute? I thought it was pretty funny honestly, but was that a dig at him? I hope so!🤣👍🏼
Don't eat your toys? I'll have you know that I still have several Micro Machines racing their way through my digestive tract from when I swallowed them in '96. The anticipation is making my guts hurt!
Personally, _Reactivate_ Optimus Prime would've been better off having SS 38 Optimus Prime's ion blaster, since that ion blaster has a longer handle than the one the _Reactivate_ figure came with. That and SS 38 is modeled after _Bumblebee_ Optimus's Earth mode and we never saw Optimus use his ion blaster on Earth.
Ngl I was excited mostly for soundwave despite being a weaker figure because it's one of the few soundwave that turns into a vehicle. But the rest of the set looks so good I might have to hold back on some other figures.
I ordered this and actually enjoyed both figures. I feel like soundwave is always like ehh he hasnt got a opening chest is always a somewhat letdown, especially when he is quite bloated arounf the chest .
I swear TTG has the absolute WORST luck with his figures. I've never encountered any of the problems he has on his. He must absorb all the bad luck with all of us
Definitely looking forward to these two early next year.. The Soundwave is about give or take, but decent for a deluxe toy. The Optimus though goes above and beyond what a good Voyager Optimus should be. Cleans up really nicely in both molds with fantastic kibble management, and proper articulation. Had really high hopes for the WFC figures at the beginning of this year but given most were underwhelming or not much of an improvement over the originals they were an easy pass. Reactivate as a whole though are uniquely different from any known designs, and executed so much better and look worth the buy.
I've heard that the wheels inside his torso are mistransformed in the instructions. If you leave them spread out something like this: |_._| instead of folding them up the whole way the backpack should tab in better and be more flush.
Im not expert on this things but that soundwaves is really similar the soundwave deluxe from Cyververse, it has the same ingienery with some upgrades but still with problems in the backpack. Even the vehicle mode is the same
I just dion;t get the receoption to this set, from every reviewer who's tackled it. That is an amazing Soundwave who, yes, lacks any of the iconic little buddies and cest compartment to but him in, but has a banger APC mode and moderate to mid-level backpack, plus... yet another Voyager Optimus Prime. How can anyone possiobly be excited about YET ANOTHER VOYAGER OPTIMUS PRIME? Maybe if they're brand new to collecting and don't have either WFC version in their multitude of variattions or SS38 or RotB (mainline or SS) or LGC Laser OP etc. etc. I've even come around to wanting a Xmas Prime just in time to have them start riding collector's market inflation instead of being on clearance and LGC Animaterd OP is not really the same, but come on, it's the same red and silver and blue dude with the minor varistions of folding the legs over to shorten the truck bed and having a Mad Max bumper. What is there ti be hyped about?
i own the prime and i don't see where you got he shares engineering with siege er or mp10, like i don't see it, does he use some similar ideas sure, but its not the same engineering
7:24 "How do you feel, mighty Megatron? NNYEH!!!"
-That Toy Guy, probably.
Personally, I think both of them are pretty great! Soundwave is definitely the weaker one, but I still think hes a pretty good figure in his own right, even if his proportions are kinda wacky.
@@WokeDEMOCRATShaveASPDI think it's really lanky in some proportions and that back of his doesn't actually sit flat but rather float a bit
I agree Casey,it does look good,my only complaint is the chest not being able to open
@@pat1r1ckyeah but like lanky is kinda cool lookin. Since again they are robots they don’t have to adhere to human proportions
@@cosmiclikesminecraft true but I just wish the backpack was sitting flush and not in an angle
Possible tip for Soundwave: there are tabs inside of the torso that the front wheels go into for robot mode. They are very easy to miss, but that might be part of why yours doesn't like to stay solid. They are around the collar area.
As for my opinion of these two, I really like them. I have them, and Prime might be my figure of the year, even with his unfortunately poorly executed accessories. I am also a Reactivate Soundwave defender, but I agree that with a voyager budget he could be a lot better. Like I would have loved if the feet folded into the leg for the vehicle, that way he could also get that extra ankle articulation in robot.
Soundwave is usually a voyager budget but is the reactivated version a deluxe budget?
@@pat1r1ckit is indeed a deluxe, just big for his class. The two packs are $63 USD, which breaks down to 1 voyager and 1 deluxe per pack, with 3 extra dollars for better quality compared to the rest of Generations right now.
@@cybersilver5816 i Think he's big because his giant backpack and lanky proportions.
@@pat1r1ck Yes, which makes him bigger. That's how size works.
Ok, sarcasm aside, he stands taller than even 86 Hotrod. Even with better proportions, he'd be a large deluxe, which is a great thing.
“Idk man Soundwave looks pretty good with its proportions to me-“
*shows front view*
“OH SWEET PRIMUS”
He really doesn’t look that bad at any angle that isn’t directly ahead of him😅
Ah, the opposite problem that some Masterpiece transformers have
Honestly, soundwave has a very interesting design choice with the chest becoming the hood of the suv. That means that, if included in the game, the casetticons would be coming from the engine or become the engine of the vehicle mode. That intrigues me.
POV bumblebee movie rumble:
That's AWESOME!
intrigues me but I kinda wish it looked more like an actual truck hood
0:39 don't tell me what to do
I honestly love this Optimus as his design feels like a big reference to his classics figure. Like the truck mode looks really similar.
This Prime dropped and everyone instantly forgot SS102 exists lmaooo
Because it is 100% superior. Like seriously, this is the best look for Optimus I’ve seen. The perfect blend of the Bayverse, Knightverse, and G1.
@@rogue_2k374 Exactly.
Ss102 is the worst Optimus for me, all the articulation is dogshit and the vehicle mode is just as bad. All the transformation with the legs are pointless and just look horrible in truck mode. They should've just resused the same transformation scheme as the earthrise figure
This game definitely a tax write off now
Reactivate Optimus Prime is one of the best we've ever had, I'm really hoping the SS86 version is built on the same scale
Your reviews are so damn good, my dude. Like, there's Thew who just gets color design and the aesthetic space of robot dolls over the last 40-odd years. And there's you, who seems to have a connoisseur's appreciation for the engineering that goes into making the puzzle aspect of puzzle-dolls a worthwhile reason for grown-ups to want them. Thank you for sharing your love and your understanding with us.
When you brought up the fact that you didn’t know why nobody tried the new leg transformation method for prime I immediately knew the answer: tradition. Optimus has always transformed that way with the exception of a few, these designers knew that there was only so much that could be done and decided to break tradition for the sake of a better looking altmode.
I love the rounded off shoulder of prime, and the proportions of Soundwave kinda look armored core or code geass-y which I find cool
I have been singing this two-pack's praises, because God DAMN Does that Optimus look FINE and that Soundwave look good. P.S. I actually kinda dig the bloated look on Soundwave. It just sits right with me
So, status update. I now have the two pack and i gotta say, they are both fantastic! Optimus is just straight up a micro-masterpiece, and Soundwave is an excellent deluxe.
I’ve found that with his leg transformation joints, this Prime can do the Skybound cover pose amazingly
Holy shit! A Soundwave that doesn’t turn into a fucking brick/rectangle!? 10/10 best toy
Those are fighting words young man
They better use what they learned from this toy to hide the front wheels on that commander class prime. If not, I'd be really disappointed.
Oh my, reactive Optimus primes truck mode is massive compared to ss102’s truck mode!
Just one thing, sorry to be that guy, but the wheels that store inside the shell on Soundwave are very misstransformed out of the pakaging and that may be the issue youre having. You arent meant to turn the whole wheel fully inside the torsoe, the wheels are meant to stay with the wheel facing out like they are in car mode inside the torse. There are a set of tabs that go into the underside of the panel Soundwaves head is attached to, and that should lock the torso in place and make it look a lot more flush. Its hard to explain properly, but just move the front wheels around inner hinge they have
Late comment, but I was having issues with this as well and thought I'd check the comments on this video and see if there was a better explanation. I can't believe that's ACTUALLY how you transform it
soundwave is how I'm built
Optimus looks like the IDW version
You putting up that classics Optimus really does show that this feels like a proper upgrade of classics prime.
The axe needs one of those Legacy Bulkhead wrecking ball hinges to engulf the whole hand
Optimus transformation looks very different than i expected and i definitely love it
Why does Optimus' head look like his Battle master version, he looks like he plays Football and I actually like. Now I want to see him play football again at the end of the game, that'll be hilarious to see.
Prime looks pretty good but Soundwave I would never get unless it was packed with another figure that I really want in some sort of 2-pack. Oh wait...
Soundwave being a deluxe really isn't an excuse for the chest being static. The Core class opened.
@11:22 I swear if they did that with the classics Prime mold.......
If a third party does an oversized, MP-scale version of that armored vehicle Soundwave (which I've wanted for ages) I'll be there
Soundwave with the backpack attached looks like the generations line version of onslaught from FOC.
I can see the legacy(heh) influence from the WFC/FFC game designs in Prime's headsculpt.
I like your review on transformers toys. You did a good job. You allow me to think twice before purchasing the toys. Thanks anyway.
Prime's cab transformation resembles the Magic Square Prime. Obviously, the MS Prime also borrowed a lot from the other figures.
This is the most BEASTLY prime truck since beast hunters 😍
I love this soundwave hes not that much to be hated on
"A lot harder to swallow" THAT'S WHAT THEY SAID
With sound wave I also had an issue with tabbing his back in, the trick I did that got it to work is rather than inverting the wheels in robot mode I condensed them and everything just held together a lot better
I appreciate your content over PrimevsPrime. You earned a sub
“Please don’t eat your toys”
Nuh uh
Something I’ve wanted to see Soundwave as for a while is an APC, armored personnel carrier. As I think it would be cool if his minions came out of the hatch which would also become his chest.
If they ever decide to make idw optimus. They have to retool this figure. This figure has the perfect Silhouette for it.
Gotta say this gives me high hopes for what megatron, shockwave and Grimlock would look like in this style
Oh cool, early review on the new soundwa-
"Chest doesn't open"
Well sheit....
In its defense, it's not the first time they've made Soundwave without an opening chest cavity
Been trying to convince myself that I didn’t need these. I’m gonna pulled the trigger…they look cool as hell.
This Optimus prime feels like a practice round for studio series commander, especially with the novel trick at the legs.
I love it! I WANT ONE NOW!
Whenever I see Classics OP against anything, it always steals the show for me. Don’t know if they’ll ever top that mold for pure look.
Both packs look amazing
Guess I gotta make weapon add-ons for OP and a little laserbeak for soundwave.
That's what she said 3:29
I have to ask…. Why the prime vs prime music in the background during the first minute? I thought it was pretty funny honestly, but was that a dig at him? I hope so!🤣👍🏼
Definitely good looks and designs there.
*Please don't eat your toys*
instructions unclear, toys up ass.
- Jobby the Hong
Scaryalligator14 would like this vid
Don't eat your toys? I'll have you know that I still have several Micro Machines racing their way through my digestive tract from when I swallowed them in '96. The anticipation is making my guts hurt!
Nice review. It will be interesting posing this Reactivate Prime with the new Bumblebee Megatron.
Do we know yet if these will be available again after this limited run
Man i just can't wait for the game, and these figures aren't helping my patience. The designs look so goood!
Oh and these toys look super sweet too :D
They did my man SoundWave dirty
0:41 Jimmy neutron reference
A one step changer with a few more steps
Personally, _Reactivate_ Optimus Prime would've been better off having SS 38 Optimus Prime's ion blaster, since that ion blaster has a longer handle than the one the _Reactivate_ figure came with.
That and SS 38 is modeled after _Bumblebee_ Optimus's Earth mode and we never saw Optimus use his ion blaster on Earth.
Camera's a bit shaky today. Not so bad that it makes me dizzy but it's noticeable. Figure joints a bit tight?
My only thing with prime is I wish they’d incorporate the black accents of the other guys. Maybe black legs like Rid 2015
Ngl I was excited mostly for soundwave despite being a weaker figure because it's one of the few soundwave that turns into a vehicle. But the rest of the set looks so good I might have to hold back on some other figures.
3 of those were leaders 😂
What was that intro? Was that from a video game?? Looks sick
I ordered this and actually enjoyed both figures. I feel like soundwave is always like ehh he hasnt got a opening chest is always a somewhat letdown, especially when he is quite bloated arounf the chest .
i would absolutely not call that soundwave a shellformer lmao
I dont mind this Soundwave being a smaller scout class with only Lazerbeak. I just wish he came with one.
I swear TTG has the absolute WORST luck with his figures. I've never encountered any of the problems he has on his. He must absorb all the bad luck with all of us
Definitely looking forward to these two early next year.. The Soundwave is about give or take, but decent for a deluxe toy. The Optimus though goes above and beyond what a good Voyager Optimus should be. Cleans up really nicely in both molds with fantastic kibble management, and proper articulation. Had really high hopes for the WFC figures at the beginning of this year but given most were underwhelming or not much of an improvement over the originals they were an easy pass. Reactivate as a whole though are uniquely different from any known designs, and executed so much better and look worth the buy.
I've heard that the wheels inside his torso are mistransformed in the instructions.
If you leave them spread out something like this:
|_._| instead of folding them up the whole way the backpack should tab in better and be more flush.
Looks like Soundwave should been Voyager class. Maybe the chest would have worked, and the altmode hinges would have been less obvious.
this prime is incredible, just got mine
I wonder if short pegs is an upcoming trend. The pegs on Bouldercrash and Magneous's weapon are rather short.
"Soundwave's chest doesn't open."
Noooooooooo. Goddamn it. WHY!?!?
In its defense, it's not the first time they've made Soundwave without an opening chest cavity
Some reason I get American Football vibes from it.
What is the music at 4:13
soundwave reminds me a lot of bulk from prime in that alt mode
Dude i love the reactivate figures
Im not expert on this things but that soundwaves is really similar the soundwave deluxe from Cyververse, it has the same ingienery with some upgrades but still with problems in the backpack. Even the vehicle mode is the same
looks like prime got most of the budget
The one thing I just can't forgive is the base price on these sets.
Sets that don't deliver anything special enough to justify buying.
1 year later and still no clew what the game actually is
I just dion;t get the receoption to this set, from every reviewer who's tackled it. That is an amazing Soundwave who, yes, lacks any of the iconic little buddies and cest compartment to but him in, but has a banger APC mode and moderate to mid-level backpack, plus... yet another Voyager Optimus Prime. How can anyone possiobly be excited about YET ANOTHER VOYAGER OPTIMUS PRIME? Maybe if they're brand new to collecting and don't have either WFC version in their multitude of variattions or SS38 or RotB (mainline or SS) or LGC Laser OP etc. etc. I've even come around to wanting a Xmas Prime just in time to have them start riding collector's market inflation instead of being on clearance and LGC Animaterd OP is not really the same, but come on, it's the same red and silver and blue dude with the minor varistions of folding the legs over to shorten the truck bed and having a Mad Max bumper. What is there ti be hyped about?
I dont really care a lot for soundwave although i like him, i would get this pack only for prime
if cyberverse can do an opening chest at deluxe this one should be able to as well
We love to see it.
Why no q&a Video?
Could you please tell me how did you get this before Christmas I want it
Where do you get your stands? I've been trying to find some good ones
Hey, Toy Guy! Whats the stand you use?
Are we getting individual releases for these toys?
I’m pretty sure that the authentics Optimus prime fold the legs in.
The chest gap is also an issue on mine
I just want the prime as a stand alone figure
i own the prime and i don't see where you got he shares engineering with siege er or mp10, like i don't see it, does he use some similar ideas sure, but its not the same engineering
Megatron is going to be amazing I just hope they make him a little taller than prime or same hight unlike that gamer version
I like the bumblebee movie Soundwave even if his alt mode is a sandwich