Dear Dr Hoodboy Saheb, Once again I was showered upon with the great wisdom of yours. I wish we had some way of meeting. I would love to spend some time with you. I wish there were more people like you. Thanks a lot for being there.
Very good suggestions at 44:00 mins. But we still need one university where a hybrid type of education Is possible - for the naturally talent : main lectures by professors from the first world , supported by assistants from Pakistan for tutorials and examinations etc. On the other hand, what are we going to do with our army of professors and phd s, who take pride in producing students who have plus a hundred papers in their phd dissertation ? They will oppose any reform tooth and nail.
Secularism and press developed Europe, Pakistan left Secularism and democracy in 1947 but India adopted secularism and democracy so it developing towards developed, similarly Bangladesh is doing the same as India is doing because of secularism and democracy.
Saigol Foundation,a private foundation by Saigol Brothers from Lahore awarded me afellowship to do graduate work at MIT..Prof.Dr.Nasir Fazal gold medalist Cambridge USA.
@03:45. "Chimgaadad ki aankhen nahi hoti". Sir, that is not correct. Googling "bats eyes" will turn up photos of bats with eyes. True, they are adapted to extremely low light. They do use very sophisticated sonar. But they do have eyes.
29:19 interesting how prof hoodbhoy keeps putting down Hindus… does not mention that Hindus accepted reform both pre and post independence, while Muslims rejected all attempts at reform both pre and post independence…
Both Nadeem and Pervez were pretty bold in this discussion off course within limits as permitted. They fail to mention that Bharat since ages always had a flourishing university system - Nalanda, Takshashila (in present day Pakistan), Kashi, Kashmir etc where sciences and arts training was imparted. The university system was an extension of the gurukul system that were present locally and embedded into Santana Dharma (includes Buddhism and Jainism) where knowledge seeking is sought and not believing. The question on why science did not flourish in Pakistan should be reposed as why science does not have any correlation with Islam (I bet both Nadeem and Pervez were itching to do so but settled on safety). Simple answer to this question can be found by understanding why Bakhtiyar Khalji burnt whole of Nalanda university in the 11th century. . It is said that it took 6 months to burn all university. Off course, he killed thousands of teachers and students. We cannot fathom how much knowledge was lost forever. But why did he do it - answer lies in the ideology he was dutifully following.
so one thing i keep thinking is Islam itself encourages thinking, logic, but our education system is dominated by somewhat traditional educational mindset (no connection with islam ofc)..cz u can compare pak with azerbaijan or iran(also muslim country) but their educational syst is of top ranks. You see Islam isnt, but our mindset is issue.
Nalanda and Taxila were Buddhist institutions which were flourished due to their anti-Hinduistic thoughts of research and learning for all. Hinduism is a latter construct evolving out of the crash of Buddhist political decline.
Pakistan has best Madarsa in the world which produces World best Maulvis in World. This is expartise which no other country posses. They have made thinking under defined Parameters what to wear how to be one look wear . Maulana Tariq Jameel Engineer Mirza Maulana Tariq Masood are examples.
India is a land of RSS and Hinduvta... Killing low cast hindus and genocides of muslims and sikhs and suppression of christians.... It is not progress but you are just showing your depression Mr Vikas.
The age of a professor teaching in the school is over. Over the time there will be a cheap education where you can access pre-recorded instructions and work with various instructions to resolve any issue you may have. However, premium and expensive education will be where a student work with a professor to experiment and research.
Dr. Hoodbhoy says Hindus advanced in studies because Muslim rulers employed Hindus for accounting and business deals and the British repressed Muslims after 1957 mutiny more than Hindus. Wrong. Hindus are inclined towards studies and knowledge genetically, which is proved by enormous numbers of books written by Hindus (Sanatanies) like the Ved,(not Vedas), on astrology, on medicine, on sexology, ancient Universities of Nalanda & Takshashila. He admitted that all the people of Pakistan were Hindus or otherwise, who were converted to Islam after rule of invaders. Dr. Hoodbhoy himself had admitted in his so many talks at various times, that In Pakistan children are not encouraged to ask questions (watch his talks on introduction of new curriculum in Pakistan) . I don't know why he avoided this fact when he answered the question.
ہود بھائی بلاشبہ بہت اعلئ دماغ ہیں۔ اور سائنس کی بے حد اہمیت ہے۔ لیکن پاکستان کے تناظر میں سیاسی نظام حکومت، معاشی ترقی اور مینجمنٹ سائنسسز کی زیادہ ضرورت ہے۔ کیونکہ ہم بہت پسماندہ ہیں۔ جو سائنسی ترقی ہو چکی ہے اسے ملک میں لایا جائے۔
The Holy Quran states that in last era the earth will more treasures for the world will be recognized of new technowlogy and for more progress after tadabber and research the relgion doese not forbade to further reseach .science is also proove for the gift by God .ilam
Pervez inadvertently mentions a belief in rebirth in a discussion in Pakistan (at 14:23) - a Sanathana Dharma philosophy and antithesis to Abrahamic belief system especially Islam 😃
Great discussion but I didn’t think it will be any benefit as our socio political jantta are not aware if these intellectual discussion and now our society marshal races children are keen to send their offsprings to Madrassa rather than schools
...hm abhi tk compressor NAHI banatay... Sir, jhan aik zardari Sb pe BHARI aur sher ik WARI phair ho wahan aur 100 saal bhi Kuch NAHI hona. Somehow ye duo khandaan, awam ko ye smjhaney mein kamiab ho gaey Hain k rule krna in he duo khamdaanoan ki ijaradaari hai.
we should convert the fancy officers’s mess and Clubs to train young middle class people in IT and Artificial intelligence and emerging technologies . That will add value for the nation 🎉
@@hassanazad4627 bring all Pakistani teachers, Professors and any educated resource from all over the Planet. If they're serious about their nation development then they will accept the challenge. Otherwise it is all Islam Islam Islam for the next 100 years
@@ahnadhabib8018 India was in Economic crisis in 1991. But we were open minded. We just did not do Economic liberalisation but even encouraged science and technology. See how ISRO launched Chandrayan 3. Pakistan had scientists like Dr Salam.But unfortunately did not made use of it.
No original work is done in India. The education system hardly encourages curiorisity among school students. Large sections of Indians either don't send their students to school or go to government schools where there is no building. Often there is just one teacher. The elite colleges like IITs, etc. get students from upper caste, upper class coming from English medium private school. Even they are mediocre because our education system follows the colonial system where creativity is not encouraged. Students are made to mug up a whole array of books. Even the entrance exams to IITs, medical and other technical institutes is a sort of lottery of students answering a very long list of objective questions. I can understand Pakistan is worse but India is not known for breakthroughs in science. India produces technical personnel who are re-educated and absorbed by companies in the West. India provides cheap low-level software personnel through large Indian companies which don't develop their own products but provide support services like network maintenance, adapting software for different uses. Our space programme has been heavily dependent on Soviet and even Western technology. Indians too are known for jugad but that doesn't demand the rigours of science.
I don't agree with you ISRO has developed expertise on its own when we needed cryogenic even Russia didn't help india developed it's missile programme on its own Indian scientists and engineers are employed all over the world despite old education system Aryabhatt bhaskara ramanujan cv raman sattendra nath bose megh nath saha homi jahagir bhabha who pioneered atomi science dr vikram sara bhai and many many others you seem to be prejudiced mind knowledge is not the pursuit of elite class only despite all the scarcity India has emerged in science and technology and will flourish more day by day
If we are comparing India with US then yes we are behind. MIT is head and shoulder above IIT. But yes we are progressing. Satya Nadella , Sundar Pichal and many more Indians are CEOs of US companies.
Hoodbhoy sir is shining star in Pakistan.
Hope pak people learn from him.....
His blackhole lectures are very knowledgeful....
Dear Dr Hoodboy Saheb,
Once again I was showered upon with the great wisdom of yours. I wish we had some way of meeting. I would love to spend some time with you.
I wish there were more people like you.
Thanks a lot for being there.
Dr Hoodboy Janaab has always made us proud
Very good suggestions at 44:00 mins. But we still need one university where a hybrid type of education Is possible - for the naturally talent : main lectures by professors from the first world , supported by assistants from Pakistan for tutorials and examinations etc. On the other hand, what are we going to do with our army of professors and phd s, who take pride in producing students who have plus a hundred papers in their phd dissertation ? They will oppose any reform tooth and nail.
very useful seminar..pide should hold more such events
No one in pakistan is eligible to interview Dr.Pervez like science giant.
14:17
He literally said "Agle Janam me kahin aur paida hona chahta hu" meaning he's somehow inspired by the rebirth philosophy of Hinduism.❤
Secularism and press developed Europe, Pakistan left Secularism and democracy in 1947 but India adopted secularism and democracy so it developing towards developed, similarly Bangladesh is doing the same as India is doing because of secularism and democracy.
Saigol Foundation,a private foundation by Saigol Brothers from Lahore awarded me afellowship to do graduate work at MIT..Prof.Dr.Nasir Fazal gold medalist Cambridge USA.
@03:45. "Chimgaadad ki aankhen nahi hoti". Sir, that is not correct. Googling "bats eyes" will turn up photos of bats with eyes. True, they are adapted to extremely low light. They do use very sophisticated sonar. But they do have eyes.
29:19 interesting how prof hoodbhoy keeps putting down Hindus… does not mention that Hindus accepted reform both pre and post independence, while Muslims rejected all attempts at reform both pre and post independence…
جب تک اللہ چاھے گا ساٸنس رھے گی نہ نیچر ختم ھوگی نہ ساٸنس دنیا ختم ھوگی تو ساتھ ساٸنس بھی کاٸنات کا نظام ساٸنس ھی چلا رھی ھے
Both Nadeem and Pervez were pretty bold in this discussion off course within limits as permitted. They fail to mention that Bharat since ages always had a flourishing university system - Nalanda, Takshashila (in present day Pakistan), Kashi, Kashmir etc where sciences and arts training was imparted. The university system was an extension of the gurukul system that were present locally and embedded into Santana Dharma (includes Buddhism and Jainism) where knowledge seeking is sought and not believing. The question on why science did not flourish in Pakistan should be reposed as why science does not have any correlation with Islam (I bet both Nadeem and Pervez were itching to do so but settled on safety). Simple answer to this question can be found by understanding why Bakhtiyar Khalji burnt whole of Nalanda university in the 11th century. . It is said that it took 6 months to burn all university. Off course, he killed thousands of teachers and students. We cannot fathom how much knowledge was lost forever. But why did he do it - answer lies in the ideology he was dutifully following.
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so one thing i keep thinking is Islam itself encourages thinking, logic, but our education system is dominated by somewhat traditional educational mindset (no connection with islam ofc)..cz u can compare pak with azerbaijan or iran(also muslim country) but their educational syst is of top ranks. You see Islam isnt, but our mindset is issue.
Nalanda and Taxila were Buddhist institutions which were flourished due to their anti-Hinduistic thoughts of research and learning for all. Hinduism is a latter construct evolving out of the crash of Buddhist political decline.
Universal basic income, is the answer to Ai question. @Pide pls look into it.
Pakistan has best Madarsa in the world which produces World best Maulvis in World. This is expartise which no other country posses. They have made thinking under defined Parameters what to wear how to be one look wear . Maulana Tariq Jameel Engineer Mirza Maulana Tariq Masood are examples.
Jews are may be 40 lacks in population but very intelligent 🧠
I think you are being sarcastic.
India is a land of RSS and Hinduvta... Killing low cast hindus and genocides of muslims and sikhs and suppression of christians.... It is not progress but you are just showing your depression Mr Vikas.
The age of a professor teaching in the school is over. Over the time there will be a cheap education where you can access pre-recorded instructions and work with various instructions to resolve any issue you may have. However, premium and expensive education will be where a student work with a professor to experiment and research.
Dr. Hoodbhoy says Hindus advanced in studies because Muslim rulers employed Hindus for accounting and business deals and the British repressed Muslims after 1957 mutiny more than Hindus. Wrong. Hindus are inclined towards studies and knowledge genetically, which is proved by enormous numbers of books written by Hindus (Sanatanies) like the Ved,(not Vedas), on astrology, on medicine, on sexology, ancient Universities of Nalanda & Takshashila. He admitted that all the people of Pakistan were Hindus or otherwise, who were converted to Islam after rule of invaders. Dr. Hoodbhoy himself had admitted in his so many talks at various times, that In Pakistan children are not encouraged to ask questions (watch his talks on introduction of new curriculum in Pakistan) . I don't know why he avoided this fact when he answered the question.
Their ancestors themselves wrote Rig Vega, Bhagavad Gita and other scholarly works. Now look at them. From Hero to Zero!
ہود بھائی بلاشبہ بہت اعلئ دماغ ہیں۔ اور سائنس کی بے حد اہمیت ہے۔ لیکن پاکستان کے تناظر میں سیاسی نظام حکومت، معاشی ترقی اور مینجمنٹ سائنسسز کی زیادہ ضرورت ہے۔ کیونکہ ہم بہت پسماندہ ہیں۔ جو سائنسی ترقی ہو چکی ہے اسے ملک میں لایا جائے۔
The Holy Quran states that in last era the earth will more treasures for the world will be recognized of new technowlogy and for more progress after tadabber and research the relgion doese not forbade to further reseach .science is also proove for the gift by God .ilam
Problem is education ecosystem in Pakistan. Added to it Islamization. Prof is right. Start with skill building.
Bhai we are fundamentally blind followers (Muqallid) in science, religion and politics. Taqleed is the main reason behind this inertia
Pervez inadvertently mentions a belief in rebirth in a discussion in Pakistan (at 14:23) - a Sanathana Dharma philosophy and antithesis to Abrahamic belief system especially Islam 😃
Great discussion but I didn’t think it will be any benefit as our socio political jantta are not aware if these intellectual discussion and now our society marshal races children are keen to send their offsprings to Madrassa rather than schools
...hm abhi tk compressor NAHI banatay...
Sir, jhan aik zardari Sb pe BHARI aur sher ik WARI phair ho wahan aur 100 saal bhi Kuch NAHI hona.
Somehow ye duo khandaan, awam ko ye smjhaney mein kamiab ho gaey Hain k rule krna in he duo khamdaanoan ki ijaradaari hai.
ختم نبوت زندہ
😢😢😢😢educaion and religion are separate 😊😊😊😊
Seventy-five years mey elk chandtara hai hundred years mey do chandtare hongey. Khudahafiz
Well, what do you expect Pakistanis, Bactyayr Khalji burnt Nalanda university in India years ago. He killed science learned by thousands of Indians.
we should convert the fancy officers’s mess and Clubs to train young middle class people in IT and Artificial intelligence and emerging technologies . That will add value for the nation
🎉
But who will teach them ?
@@hassanazad4627 bring all Pakistani teachers, Professors and any educated resource from all over the Planet. If they're serious about their nation development then they will accept the challenge. Otherwise it is all Islam Islam Islam for the next 100 years
At the moment, we are fighting for survival ( in actual, waiting for our death). These creative ideas need effort, time and capital
@@ahnadhabib8018 India was in Economic crisis in 1991. But we were open minded. We just did not do Economic liberalisation but even encouraged science and technology. See how ISRO launched Chandrayan 3. Pakistan had scientists like Dr Salam.But unfortunately did not made use of it.
5 kids are in audience. This country is doomed.
What Noble Prize candidates, what a waste of time and what a waste of poor Pakistani‘s money
No original work is done in India. The education system hardly encourages curiorisity among school students. Large sections of Indians either don't send their students to school or go to government schools where there is no building. Often there is just one teacher. The elite colleges like IITs, etc. get students from upper caste, upper class coming from English medium private school. Even they are mediocre because our education system follows the colonial system where creativity is not encouraged. Students are made to mug up a whole array of books. Even the entrance exams to IITs, medical and other technical institutes is a sort of lottery of students answering a very long list of objective questions. I can understand Pakistan is worse but India is not known for breakthroughs in science. India produces technical personnel who are re-educated and absorbed by companies in the West. India provides cheap low-level software personnel through large Indian companies which don't develop their own products but provide support services like network maintenance, adapting software for different uses. Our space programme has been heavily dependent on Soviet and even Western technology. Indians too are known for jugad but that doesn't demand the rigours of science.
Okay what about Aryabhatta, Ramanujan, Satya Nadella, Sundar Pichai??? They're recognized as Genius of the Genius
CEOs don't get paid peanuts. They're Millionaires, Billionaires
I don't agree with you ISRO has developed expertise on its own when we needed cryogenic even Russia didn't help india developed it's missile programme on its own Indian scientists and engineers are employed all over the world despite old education system Aryabhatt bhaskara ramanujan cv raman sattendra nath bose megh nath saha homi jahagir bhabha who pioneered atomi science dr vikram sara bhai and many many others you seem to be prejudiced mind knowledge is not the pursuit of elite class only despite all the scarcity India has emerged in science and technology and will flourish more day by day
If we are comparing India with US then yes we are behind. MIT is head and shoulder above IIT. But yes we are progressing. Satya Nadella , Sundar Pichal and many more Indians are CEOs of US companies.