I have a small business. It's on etsy, but almost all of my advertising is done on tiktok. No other platform gets eyes on people's art the way tiktok does. Im pretty bummed that things for me are ending just as it started to get going. Its upsetting that so many small businesses are going to be affected by this.
i recommend signing up for multiple platforms if this becomes the case, like twitter, instagram, youtube and others that younger generations focus on. especially instagram as thats where every gen z is moving too after this ban takes full affect
I’m not gonna lie, I don’t really care about TikTok whatsoever but my sympathy goes out to the people who are using it to help report on the wars in Ukraine and Palestine / alongside small businesses. But it has helped set a trend of short form running videos with an algorithm to get people addicted to spending more time on their phone, which I hate and had just brain rotted the folks only a few years younger than me. Social media is just the worst, I’m glad I just watch TH-cam and stay on some small discords that feel like the forums I experienced just as they died in the very early 2010s.
@@joshix833 I believe that it is to shrink the monopoly over social media and only allow mark zuckerberg, Elon musk, and whoever owns snapchat to have more control over the narratives being spread on socials. Have you seen the clip of the people in congress outright being racist to the tiktok CEO, insisting he was Chinese even though he is Singaporean?
The only thing tiktok was successful at is spreading mass mis and disinformation. It’s literally because Chinese refuses to sell the company to an American one so they have access to the information gathered, not China.
As a Russian (no I don't support war) I guarantee there's A LOT of ways to bypass bans from the government. I recommend looking at tiktok mods (for android) and vpns. But obviously be careful not to infect your phone/pc with a virus. (just options for the worst case scenario)
@@tamooz6649The manifesto itself is boring and pretty tame, but it’s important to share because mainstream news is refusing to publish it. They’re afraid of causing more sympathy.
The way some people are laughing at TikTok creators over this ban is disgusting. Telling creators to get 9-5 jobs?? Aren't these the same people complaining about how their 9-5 jobs aren't paying them enough? Or how these jobs will replace them at the drop of a hat? Never promote them? It's bitter jealousy in my opinion. They never got their time in the sun so they're happy that creators are being knocked back down to their level. When we have TikTok, an incredible resource for making a living for yourself and getting out of the "rat race", people don't cherish it.
Even if the attention was there (which I think it was when the app passed), the internet just cannot hold the attention onto these things for more than a few days or weeks given how algorithm driven everything is. Plus the delay that comes with the implementation of any laws means that it would have been forgotten about anyway. However, I also think that a lot of people were under the impression that a protracted legal fight would have provided some form of survival for tiktok. A lot of artists learned this lesson with twitter and instagram and their algorithm tweaks. DO NOT PUT EVERYTHING ONTO ONE PLATFORM. The platform can go away just as fast as it came or the platform can be changed into something that is effectively unusable. Have a website at the very least to redirect your following should any platform go down.
Who's getting left out are the normal 9-5ers like me making a little extra cash on the tiktok shop selling stuff. It's a house payment for me. This sucks.
Additional reason: The US government via a US company wants to be able to snuff out information they cant as easily refute concerning things such as the multiple genocidea occuring globally and the US's contributions and/or feigned ignorance of them.
So without TikTok you can’t watch news reports/ articles, watch TH-cam videos about it, or find any way to donate and help others? What is stopping you from continuing to advocate for those people? Not being reminded of it while you scroll the app every day?
@@imightnotmakeitnews is censored and donations don’t even go to the people in need. Example North Carolina people couldn’t even get a heater during winter from donations when they just had massive natural disaster.
I was wondering the same thing !? 🤔 Maybe they don’t think it will really happen ?? Plus so many people use or rely on it for their business so what will happen to them ?
Absolutely! It seems like everyone is using it. If so many want it to be banned, why are there even so many ppl using it to begin with. Im not using it myself btw
@@fritzschnitzmueller3768 Most people don't actually want it to be banned lol Just a bunch of boomers who are furious they don't control every social media company (thats also spying on everyone).
This is the case with some of my friends lol. They know its coming but they absolutely refuse to believe it'll actually happen. I think they're all clinging on to the raft of hope that the Supreme Court will magically stop it.
@Lee-Foster your friends are wishing for a miracle. This is a bipartisan law agreed upon by the majority of house and senate reps. The Supreme Court isn't going to overturn a decision that was made by the majority of the nation's representatives.
I guess since we all realised there are no rules and the truth doesn't matter, people stopped caring about laws like that. Everyone thinks it won't happen anyway.
There's always a workaround with these things, that's why it's not really a concern. only concern will be if there is actually a law to be enforced, say, you can't be a US citizen and show your face on TikTok because you will be legally pursued.
Thanks for a short, concise analysis. Data and algorithm training is a huge reason the US wants to buy TikTok. It would be extremely lucrative for tech giants here, and China is smart for not selling.
@TheStarBot ByteDance and other Chinese companies are loosely linked to the Chinese government. But ByteDance does make it's own decisions but if a directive from the Politburo and Xi explicitly not sell than that would be the case. I wouldn't sell either if I was them. Economic gangsterism should be met with economic gangsterism
@@RedDeadReverie I’m not a man and I’m just checking people unintentional Sinophobia The face you believe they are owned by China and not just an Chinese company says a lot
@ *Xenophobia. And China does currently own the company. Stating a fact is not bigotry. If you have to pick apart a statement to start an argument, you must have nothing better to do.
1: I think everyone was distracted by the time the ban was signed in. 2: it went in a porkbarrel bill so it did not get noticed easily. 3: you said it already they counting on the court to stop them
One thing that I noticed but was overshadowed- there are only so many jobs available, with tiktokers on a job hunt, american job market might get even more cruel. Although I'm not american and I don't live there, I see almost every day how bad american job culture is, how little people get paid. I'm really concerned about the outcome of incoming tiktok ban
The "it's fine if you sell the company" clause should make it very obvious to everyone what the actual goal of the ban is: seizing the profits made by the bytedance. The fact that it also allows people to report on atrocity is probably another reason Epic games store, for example, also mines your data. The difference is that their storefront does not also allow users to talk about Palestine or whatever else they want to discuss
many of my favorite "tea" channels might be out of the job too and it makes me rlly sad. Not only cuz i might not have those channels but its their income. Majority of what they report on is from tik tok. Not to mention their teams!
They’re trying to sweep underneath the rug because of all of you people that are trying to put attention on it but this time it’s going bye-bye like it should’ve been in the first place 😂
Yeah, nobody forgot. It's simply not that big of a deal. And if you're still asking this now, then you're simply not someone who pays attention to politics. Everything in this country blows up when it hits the headlines and then eventually trickles down and fades to nothing because media headlines are short-term outrage articles. If you're using social media as a distraction from reality, then you're one of the many unsolved social issues in this nation. Learn to socialize in the real world and create physical communities, and you'll be fine, just like we literally all were before facebook was ever a thing. We survived before TikTok, and we'll survive without it. This isn't that big of a deal. The fact that we're acting like people on tiktok can't switch to one of the other 3+ social media platforms is wild. Lastly, what evidence is needed to justify the ban? The company is undeniably linked to the communist china government, and we are actively competing for economic power and independence from China. Literally pay attention to what happened when NBA players tried to speak up against China and you'll never need to understand why an american govt doesnt want a social media platform with direct connections to China's govt involved in our nation's social environment. And again, this doesn't require an explanation if you've been paying attention to foreign influence from china over the last 10+ years.
Probably because Vine left and it's not that different of an app for people who don't use it to make money. Something else will spring up and take it's place.
while I personally hate Tiktok and I am not a big fan to short form content as well as all of the trends I dont trust to politics however I still dont care what actual happens when Tiktok banned only in US though (I dont live in USA anyways) without Tiktok personally I think nothing bad happens
And what has she done to deserve hate? And I mean factual information and actual proof. Not your biased weird opinion and y’all believing random gossip.
@@smilealwaysnatasha3423 1. Using slave labor for her merchandise 2. Misinterpreting an beloved Country song about “woman taking another woman husband” to “I’m the best, fuck you Jolene” 3. Jay-Z
@alexmagus4437 it's an incredible threat to security. Government employees and contractors have already been banned from having it for a reason. There's been numerous studies showing that the app violates a number of laws and policies
@alexmagus4437tbh i think it’s a security issue. TikTok in China is way different than US TikTok. I know people get paid and have content there. I wish an American company bought it or something
@alexmagus4437 its actually damaging people, whether its self esteem, attention span, or mental health. There is also the excess of hate building up in people which TikTok can be accountable for, I watched a video about it recently and it was quite interesting.
I have a small business. It's on etsy, but almost all of my advertising is done on tiktok. No other platform gets eyes on people's art the way tiktok does. Im pretty bummed that things for me are ending just as it started to get going. Its upsetting that so many small businesses are going to be affected by this.
This is funny because so many Twitter artists keep saying the opposite
I sell stuff on ticktok shop. How well targeted their ads are is scary good
@@TheStarBot tiktok puts you in front of people who will like/actively looking for your product better than any app or website
i recommend signing up for multiple platforms if this becomes the case, like twitter, instagram, youtube and others that younger generations focus on. especially instagram as thats where every gen z is moving too after this ban takes full affect
Still has to go before the supreme court.
I’m not gonna lie, I don’t really care about TikTok whatsoever but my sympathy goes out to the people who are using it to help report on the wars in Ukraine and Palestine / alongside small businesses.
But it has helped set a trend of short form running videos with an algorithm to get people addicted to spending more time on their phone, which I hate and had just brain rotted the folks only a few years younger than me. Social media is just the worst, I’m glad I just watch TH-cam and stay on some small discords that feel like the forums I experienced just as they died in the very early 2010s.
Instagram is just as bad as Tik Tok. I don't get why you would ban one, but not the other.
@@joshix833 I believe that it is to shrink the monopoly over social media and only allow mark zuckerberg, Elon musk, and whoever owns snapchat to have more control over the narratives being spread on socials. Have you seen the clip of the people in congress outright being racist to the tiktok CEO, insisting he was Chinese even though he is Singaporean?
Nature abhors a vacuum. We'll end up going to Instagram or YT Shorts.
I'm just wondering how they'd plan on enforcing such a ban on something that's basically been a golden goose for mass advertising
pulling it from the stores plus enforcing ISPs to blacklist known bytedance addresses...
So was vine. But that didn't stop Twitter from purchasing it and not use it.
Maybe if I don’t think about it, it won’t happen.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
It was too successful. The US billionaire class wanted TikTok gone, so they could control the space.
It was Chinese spyware and malware...
Better than a bunch of slant eyed billionaires who hate you and your house
The only thing tiktok was successful at is spreading mass mis and disinformation. It’s literally because Chinese refuses to sell the company to an American one so they have access to the information gathered, not China.
As a Russian (no I don't support war) I guarantee there's A LOT of ways to bypass bans from the government. I recommend looking at tiktok mods (for android) and vpns. But obviously be careful not to infect your phone/pc with a virus. (just options for the worst case scenario)
i also heard that it is getting banned so that we are not able to spread messages like helping palestine and about luigi mangiones manifesto
Why would u want to read his manifesto lol
Because Luigi did nothing wrong.
@@tamooz6649The manifesto itself is boring and pretty tame, but it’s important to share because mainstream news is refusing to publish it. They’re afraid of causing more sympathy.
Are you demented? You can do that everywhere else. You dont need tiktok to do things
This was going in effect before either of those happened. Not to mention you see either in just about every other website.
The way some people are laughing at TikTok creators over this ban is disgusting. Telling creators to get 9-5 jobs?? Aren't these the same people complaining about how their 9-5 jobs aren't paying them enough? Or how these jobs will replace them at the drop of a hat? Never promote them?
It's bitter jealousy in my opinion. They never got their time in the sun so they're happy that creators are being knocked back down to their level. When we have TikTok, an incredible resource for making a living for yourself and getting out of the "rat race", people don't cherish it.
Even if the attention was there (which I think it was when the app passed), the internet just cannot hold the attention onto these things for more than a few days or weeks given how algorithm driven everything is. Plus the delay that comes with the implementation of any laws means that it would have been forgotten about anyway.
However, I also think that a lot of people were under the impression that a protracted legal fight would have provided some form of survival for tiktok.
A lot of artists learned this lesson with twitter and instagram and their algorithm tweaks. DO NOT PUT EVERYTHING ONTO ONE PLATFORM. The platform can go away just as fast as it came or the platform can be changed into something that is effectively unusable. Have a website at the very least to redirect your following should any platform go down.
Doesn’t work. They censor everything.
Who's getting left out are the normal 9-5ers like me making a little extra cash on the tiktok shop selling stuff. It's a house payment for me. This sucks.
yeah they don't want you making that money too easy, they want you McWorking
@@gothgrrl8711 Seriously. I have a good government job that I fought like hell to get. But I would quit in a second if I could do my own thing.
Oof, I'm sorry.
@@SemiIocon Thank. We'll make a way.
I'm sorry man I hope you get through it 😔
Additional reason: The US government via a US company wants to be able to snuff out information they cant as easily refute concerning things such as the multiple genocidea occuring globally and the US's contributions and/or feigned ignorance of them.
So without TikTok you can’t watch news reports/ articles, watch TH-cam videos about it, or find any way to donate and help others? What is stopping you from continuing to advocate for those people? Not being reminded of it while you scroll the app every day?
@@imightnotmakeitnews is censored and donations don’t even go to the people in need. Example North Carolina people couldn’t even get a heater during winter from donations when they just had massive natural disaster.
I was wondering the same thing !? 🤔 Maybe they don’t think it will really happen ?? Plus so many people use or rely on it for their business so what will happen to them ?
Absolutely! It seems like everyone is using it. If so many want it to be banned, why are there even so many ppl using it to begin with. Im not using it myself btw
@@fritzschnitzmueller3768 Most people don't actually want it to be banned lol Just a bunch of boomers who are furious they don't control every social media company (thats also spying on everyone).
This is the case with some of my friends lol. They know its coming but they absolutely refuse to believe it'll actually happen. I think they're all clinging on to the raft of hope that the Supreme Court will magically stop it.
@Lee-Foster your friends are wishing for a miracle. This is a bipartisan law agreed upon by the majority of house and senate reps.
The Supreme Court isn't going to overturn a decision that was made by the majority of the nation's representatives.
It’s not going to be in the App Store anymore, but I don’t think it will be disappearing from anyone’s phone if they already had downloaded it.
But it's not going to work after a while, because, you know, no updates and all that jazz.
It's not getting banned
Honestly I just assume that it's going to be called off just before it actually happens, but it'll be interesting to find out.
TikTok getting banned is just nonsense. Thanks for the video.
I guess since we all realised there are no rules and the truth doesn't matter, people stopped caring about laws like that. Everyone thinks it won't happen anyway.
There's always a workaround with these things, that's why it's not really a concern. only concern will be if there is actually a law to be enforced, say, you can't be a US citizen and show your face on TikTok because you will be legally pursued.
Thanks for a short, concise analysis. Data and algorithm training is a huge reason the US wants to buy TikTok. It would be extremely lucrative for tech giants here, and China is smart for not selling.
*ByteDance
Let's not lump an good or bad decision of a singlar all China
@TheStarBot ByteDance and other Chinese companies are loosely linked to the Chinese government. But ByteDance does make it's own decisions but if a directive from the Politburo and Xi explicitly not sell than that would be the case. I wouldn't sell either if I was them. Economic gangsterism should be met with economic gangsterism
@ It is a company owned by them. No need to mansplain, thanks ☺️
@@RedDeadReverie I’m not a man and I’m just checking people unintentional Sinophobia
The face you believe they are owned by China and not just an Chinese company says a lot
@ *Xenophobia. And China does currently own the company. Stating a fact is not bigotry. If you have to pick apart a statement to start an argument, you must have nothing better to do.
I don’t use tiktok and I think it has some serious issues but I feel bad for anyone who relies on it to make a living.
Would a VPN make it work?
1: I think everyone was distracted by the time the ban was signed in. 2: it went in a porkbarrel bill so it did not get noticed easily. 3: you said it already they counting on the court to stop them
The clock is ticking for tiktok 🕰️💀
Hmm
Love your videos man- will continue to follow and support you on TH-cam!
One thing that I noticed but was overshadowed- there are only so many jobs available, with tiktokers on a job hunt, american job market might get even more cruel. Although I'm not american and I don't live there, I see almost every day how bad american job culture is, how little people get paid. I'm really concerned about the outcome of incoming tiktok ban
What can we even do to stop it 🤷🏾♀️
The "it's fine if you sell the company" clause should make it very obvious to everyone what the actual goal of the ban is: seizing the profits made by the bytedance. The fact that it also allows people to report on atrocity is probably another reason
Epic games store, for example, also mines your data. The difference is that their storefront does not also allow users to talk about Palestine or whatever else they want to discuss
I’m a fan of your work, Robert, greetings from CDMX
I know all my coworkers at work, will be bummed for losing it as their main source of entertainment.
many of my favorite "tea" channels might be out of the job too and it makes me rlly sad. Not only cuz i might not have those channels but its their income.
Majority of what they report on is from tik tok. Not to mention their teams!
I wonder if it's Drama Kween
They’re trying to sweep underneath the rug because of all of you people that are trying to put attention on it but this time it’s going bye-bye like it should’ve been in the first place 😂
Trump is trying to get a pause put on the bill.
I can see some big creators moving to other countries like canada or the uk in order to somewhat keep their careers going
I don’t think we forgot or don’t know about it I think we’re just in denial tbh
Everybody is talking about this 😂
Yeah, nobody forgot. It's simply not that big of a deal. And if you're still asking this now, then you're simply not someone who pays attention to politics. Everything in this country blows up when it hits the headlines and then eventually trickles down and fades to nothing because media headlines are short-term outrage articles.
If you're using social media as a distraction from reality, then you're one of the many unsolved social issues in this nation. Learn to socialize in the real world and create physical communities, and you'll be fine, just like we literally all were before facebook was ever a thing.
We survived before TikTok, and we'll survive without it. This isn't that big of a deal. The fact that we're acting like people on tiktok can't switch to one of the other 3+ social media platforms is wild.
Lastly, what evidence is needed to justify the ban? The company is undeniably linked to the communist china government, and we are actively competing for economic power and independence from China. Literally pay attention to what happened when NBA players tried to speak up against China and you'll never need to understand why an american govt doesnt want a social media platform with direct connections to China's govt involved in our nation's social environment. And again, this doesn't require an explanation if you've been paying attention to foreign influence from china over the last 10+ years.
soooo... people will be left with tje platforms of musky boy and lizard boy? (aside from yt)
Probably because Vine left and it's not that different of an app for people who don't use it to make money. Something else will spring up and take it's place.
Will you be going to lemon8 if it is banned? I will follow you wherever you go ❤
Lemon8 will also be banned, along with CapCut as they are also foreign adversary controlled according to the law.
it will not get banned. billions are left on the table for our top 0.1%
Bring back Vine
I do not have a TikTok account and I don’t have the app so I don’t really lose anything 🤷🏽♀️But good luck.
while I personally hate Tiktok and I am not a big fan to short form content as well as all of the trends
I dont trust to politics
however I still dont care what actual happens when Tiktok banned only in US though (I dont live in USA anyways)
without Tiktok personally I think nothing bad happens
4:53 LMAOOO
Can you do a video on the unprovoked hatred towards Beyonce ??
No because she deserved her criticism
@@smilealwaysnatasha3423 also I dunno if an white man should talk about it
And what has she done to deserve hate? And I mean factual information and actual proof. Not your biased weird opinion and y’all believing random gossip.
@@smilealwaysnatasha3423 1. Using slave labor for her merchandise 2. Misinterpreting an beloved Country song about “woman taking another woman husband” to “I’m the best, fuck you Jolene” 3. Jay-Z
Girl as part of the Beyhive other people not liking Beyoncé has no bearing on our life🫶🏾
Nah. It’ll be fine.
Ðude litteraly explained y it needs to be banned lol.its addictive and many many reasons
I hope it gets banned lol. I'm mad that my account got hacked a couple months ago and I can't get it back.
Good thing !
YAYY
these video titles are so stupid. yes, no one. absolutely NO ONE is talking about the tiktok ban. goofball
TikTok is a cespool! I can not wait till it is gone
Twitter is worst
@Mia-sp5wh Makes no difference to me! They can shut down X to. In fact shut down all social media. It's all worthless garbage
Good
3 hours ago...Trump has asked the Supreme Court to intervene and stop the Tik Tok ban from going into effect.
It should be banned
Why?
@alexmagus4437 it's an incredible threat to security. Government employees and contractors have already been banned from having it for a reason. There's been numerous studies showing that the app violates a number of laws and policies
@alexmagus4437tbh i think it’s a security issue. TikTok in China is way different than US TikTok. I know people get paid and have content there. I wish an American company bought it or something
@alexmagus4437 its actually damaging people, whether its self esteem, attention span, or mental health. There is also the excess of hate building up in people which TikTok can be accountable for, I watched a video about it recently and it was quite interesting.
@@JMT420 1984 ahh logic. if security was a concern at all we would have common sense gun regulations. It's all about money
Without tik tok bro is gonna run out of content and touch grass 💀
Can't wait. Americas need to focus on the literacy rates and affordability instead of trying to become influencers..
I'm not even American but did you watch the video??? nuance is dead I swear
@@deanbilly9073 They probably watched it and just don’t care. 🤦🏾♂️
Oh boo hoo. Let me play a sad song on the world’s smallest violin
🤣🤣🤣