Is CCIE still worth it? CCDE? Or just Python? Do I need to become a developer? Cisco Dev exams?

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  • @vincebaldocchi561
    @vincebaldocchi561 5 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    Jason Gooley is the man. I had the pleasure of working with him for almost 8 years. He took a chance on me and i'm forever grateful for that. He is the best boss i ever had. I wouldn't be where I am today with out his help. Thanks Jason.

    • @jameslol7785
      @jameslol7785 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      vince baldocchi
      he seems humble down to earth . i like this great guy. have you got his TH-cam channel please, thanks very much

  • @davidbombal
    @davidbombal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Menu:
    Jason Gooley introduction: 00:00
    Jason's new book (CCIE and CCDE Evolving Technologies Study Guide): 00:55
    Is a CCIE worth it? Or just network automation? 1:55
    Do I need to become a developer? 4:00
    Is a CCIE still worth it? 4:36
    NPDESI and NPDEV courses: 6:15
    What is CCIE vs CCDE: 7:03
    CCNA vs Python? CCNP vs Python? CCIE or just Python? 11:41
    Should a CCNP go for CCIE? 12:50
    How do you balance work and family? 14:00
    How did you manage to get two CCIEs with a family? 16:00
    Work/life balance when traveling? 17:25
    Your new channel? Metaldevops: 18:27
    Is your new book relevant to everyone? 20:00
    What does your book cover? IOT, Cloud, Programmability: 20:57
    Can anyone get that book? Or is it just for CCIE/CCDE? 22:33
    Jason's details:
    Twitter: twitter.com/Jason_Gooley
    LinkedIn: www.linkedin.com/in/jgooley/
    CCIE and CCDE Evolving Technologies Study Guide:
    www.ciscopress.com/store/ccie-and-ccde-evolving-technologies-study-guide-9780789759726
    Programming and Automating Cisco Networks: A guide to network programmability and automation in the data center, campus, and WAN:
    www.ciscopress.com/store/programming-and-automating-cisco-networks-a-guide-to-9781587144653
    NPDESI:
    learningnetworkstore.cisco.com/on-demand-e-learning/designing-and-implementing-cisco-network-programmability-npdesi-v-1-0-elt-npdesi-v1-0-020749
    NPDEV:
    learningnetworkstore.cisco.com/on-demand-e-learning/developing-with-cisco-network-programmability-npdev-v4-0-elt-npdev-v4-0-020748
    NPDESI Exam: www.cisco.com/c/en/us/training-events/training-certifications/exams/current-list/npdesi.html#~overview
    Note: Travel and conference access courtesy of Cisco.

    • @bardock11
      @bardock11 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'm grateful that you paste timestamps in the comments of all your videos. It makes it much more convenient for mobile users.
      On another note, thank you for providing such great value and searching out sharing knowledge with the rest of us. As an almost beginner, I've already learnt a lot!
      Much happiness, have a great one!

    • @jroldanvaldellos
      @jroldanvaldellos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jason and David: thanks guys!! Love da video you made and the flow you managed to print on this video.

  • @RaulEduardoFloresNajera
    @RaulEduardoFloresNajera 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    2 years ago I got my first CCIE Routing and Switching, (after passing through my CCNA and my CCNP) I am currently studying for my second CCIE ("SP track") since I see it necessary to get my CCDE which is my last goal to long term, but being able to automate my tasks with python and ansible has allowed me to streamline my daily tasks and take my work to another level of productivity (something like a Super CCIE: D) I see automation as a necessary skill set in all the aspects of life that allows us to have more time to analyze scenarios that allow us to optimize and have better networks, greetings and many thanks for these videos David, I hope more courses of yours to continue learning network programmability thanks.....

    • @RaulEduardoFloresNajera
      @RaulEduardoFloresNajera 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@trustthe_process4371 correct I make the correction, at least with the certifications that correspond to CISCO is a medium to long term goal, I did not make myself understood

    • @jameslol7785
      @jameslol7785 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Netpeers
      as a professional you have passed all this levels how much time does it take a beginner to learn ccna and ccnp before i jump to the hight level which is the CCIE. let's say CCNA for example how long does it take I'm very excited. please I'm waiting for your reply appreciate it mate thanks very much

  • @bcs9581
    @bcs9581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you David for the video, Thank God CCIE is still trending, I have just begun my CCIE R&S preparation

  • @feiwoza
    @feiwoza 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you ..David and Jason ..you guys gives us road map to kick start our careers again ..

  • @alimustafa2253
    @alimustafa2253 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you David. Just love to spend my off study time on your TH-cam channel very helpful.
    just added both books to my read list, Currently working on CCNP Enterprise. my long term goal is to get CCIE/CCDE + network automation.

  • @Impact4ever
    @Impact4ever 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    OMG! Kick-ass video, from my perspective its seems getting your CCNA or CCNP then put in some time with python.
    Well that what i'm going to do.
    Hey thanks for another stellar interview!

  • @tshepomore5552
    @tshepomore5552 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you David, I've been unsure about the myth surrounding Python vs CCIE/ CCDE. The record is now straight!

  • @david_108
    @david_108 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you so much Jason and David for sharing this incredible interesting conversation and interview. I have been checking Jason book "Programming and Automating Cisco Networks" and I am looking forward to buy it. Best for you guys. Keep it this way, you are phenomenal.

  • @damonaniton
    @damonaniton 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can never go wrong getting your CCIE. The level of in depth knowledge you can gain from achieving the CCIE is second to none. The problem is the CCIE does not seem to demand as high a salary as it did in years past. While it is always easier said than done. Gaining the right experience, along with certs, can get you paid as much as many CCIE in todays markets. The other debate is that many shops want to see you capable on multiple technologies. So the time getting an IE could get you certified in multiple Cisco paths or other vendors all together. So while you may not be a CCIE level network engineer. You can be multiple NA or NP along with say your VMware or AWS or Palo Alto cert

    • @iq2823
      @iq2823 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would sum up your talks in words as: A well experienced with the deep knowledge CCNP is better of inexperienced and skill less and incompetent CCIE. What is the use of CCIE if one becomes a Sales Person in the end and mess up his career. Isn't hands-on CCNP with deep knowledge and well experienced is better? And I have seen its many of examples.
      In market, everybody is paid for Hands-on Skills not the fucking idealistic theories and difficult protocols and flowery words. No body cares about it. Every company pays for what you do with your hands i.e. from bottom to Top. Either you are Security Personal or a Manager. Period! So always improve your hands on skills. You will be the winner in the end.

  • @Armurp01
    @Armurp01 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yep concepts are everything......glad he mentioned that in regards to if CCIE or any other RS cert under that is relevant.

  • @howlingfjord106
    @howlingfjord106 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It seems to me that networking is just going through the same process that systems went through with the introduction of powershell. I think it gets blown way out of proportion. Powershell didn't make systems engineers lose their job, it just allowed them to use their time for better stuff. Doesn't sound like anyone expects us to become full-stack software engineers, we just need to learn enough to use these new networking libraries to automate boring tasks, as far as I can tell.

    • @davidbombal
      @davidbombal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      There was a lot of hype around SDN that it would change everything in networking. That has been reduced to automation now in a lot of cases. I think network engineers that learn network automation will have many more opportunities in future than those that don't.

  • @gregorydunn2716
    @gregorydunn2716 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Read that book, really good easy read
    Thank You!

  • @taukirsyed1769
    @taukirsyed1769 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Keep up the good work guys

  • @desiracing3
    @desiracing3 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks David awesome interview very resourceful

  • @ALLAHpleasehelp
    @ALLAHpleasehelp 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I switched from Cisco Networking to Web Application and Mobile App dev. I have over 10 years of Cisco expertise

  • @jroldanvaldellos
    @jroldanvaldellos 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love da new music of your videos David :)

  • @jjbb7010
    @jjbb7010 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Python or any programming language can be applied to anything you do in IT these days even Cisco.

  • @strgtr3531
    @strgtr3531 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Informative for me ..

  • @dewangpatel
    @dewangpatel 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great Information !

  • @mixalis4944
    @mixalis4944 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    David your videos and the way you explain all these networking concepts is fantastic!!
    Please consider to make any videos about VXLANs and EVPN Multisite concepts because nobody can explain better than you!!Keep going that way!!

  • @fabichoi
    @fabichoi ปีที่แล้ว

    Uma pergunta: sei que não há pré-requisitos para CCDE, mas vcs avaliam que é preciso tirar antes CCNA?

  • @ankurarora1606
    @ankurarora1606 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love you David 💓

  • @ronpearson1912
    @ronpearson1912 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The issue with CCIE is it is convoluted to get, having to fly somewhere, get hotels, rental cars, etc to do this practice exam. It's quite costly and if you fail it can be a considerable amount of money down the drain. I dont think the leverage the CCIE gives you in the market (in terms of pay and ease of getting a job) matches the costs associated with getting it. You can learn all the content online without having to spend alot of money to go do the practical.

  • @bigevilbeard
    @bigevilbeard 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #TheGodFatherOfProgramability my #metaldevops brother! You rock Jason! - Thanks David.

  • @i_youtube_
    @i_youtube_ 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    David we need to know how CCIE guys practice labs whether it is hardware or emulator and what's the advice from CCIE guys when it comes about preparing a lab at home?

    • @daniellxia
      @daniellxia 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      On simulator for sure. Even the lab exam itself is based on simulator. Search for webiou. That's the cisco internal tool used in ccie lab exam, which is basically native Cisco IOS compiled on Unix. If you cannot get your hands on webiou, then use GNS3, which is a free MIPS emulator and can load real cisco IOS images.

  • @TheBeach5563
    @TheBeach5563 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Really liked this David. I guess it depends on the person. I’m thinking for me maybe CCNP after ICND2 then maybe more Python for networking and some Devnet stuff in the AWS realm. It’s funny because I was thinking of all this the other day, trying to plot this stuff out. I’m already enrolled in some of your GNS3 and Packet Tracer courses on Udemy. Have Virl at work.

  • @dewangpatel
    @dewangpatel 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    15:12 perimeter firewall around jackson Lol

  • @durgarajukalidindi665
    @durgarajukalidindi665 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    hi David great going sir and your every videos are so good, i need some suggestions from you i am CCNA certified with 3 year of experience going outside with this is not enough so please guide me which technologies are good to learn for future

  • @patrickilunga1535
    @patrickilunga1535 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello sir ,
    Kindly give me name of first book of automation of jason

    • @davidbombal
      @davidbombal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Programming and Automating Cisco Networks: A guide to network programmability and automation in the data center, campus, and WAN: www.ciscopress.com/store/programming-and-automating-cisco-networks-a-guide-to-9781587144653

  • @aniltiwari4498
    @aniltiwari4498 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Which is best book of CCIE (R&s) for self study can you guide me I want to start now .

  • @beingprofessional3495
    @beingprofessional3495 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David sir : I want your valuable suggestion (even some kind of guideline) in my life .
    I have almost 6 years of experience in IT in which 3 years as network support engineer and 3 years as IT engineer.
    My job is limited to mostly LAN side of networking due to mid-size organization. Even i have designed & successfully implemented the network (5 floored building) of another branch of my organization and it's working fine right now But everything was limited to almost installing switches,Crimping,installing face plate, troubleshooting network , configuring wireless access point(Wi-Fi),servers,fingerprint scanners,network printers etcs ......
    I have studied CCNA, CCNP Switch,( CCNP Route in progress),CCNA security and practicing almost everything at GNS3 whatever is possible in GNS3 from last 4-5 years but i don't have experience at real routers in last 3 years.
    Kindly suggest me what to do from today. ? What to do next ?
    i am waiting a response from you sir, i am very confuse right now.

    • @davidbombal
      @davidbombal  5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Katherine wrote a fantastic blog entry here discussing this: www.network-node.com/blog/2016/5/19/careerjob-advice-and-observations?rq=jobs

    • @beingprofessional3495
      @beingprofessional3495 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@davidbombal Thank you so much sir .

  • @sufyanali9349
    @sufyanali9349 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I am doing CCNP right know..Is it worhy or not?Need your expert opinion

    • @mohiuddinshahbaaz
      @mohiuddinshahbaaz 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sufyan Ali it is, however go for python after it.

  • @charleszhang8793
    @charleszhang8793 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my understand automation is, before 10 guys need finished job, use automation only need 1 guy can finished.

  • @jewelbennett7325
    @jewelbennett7325 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty, before anything need to own your router in 3 min😏 then it's dev land. I ll try again

  • @nikuraba29
    @nikuraba29 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    #learn to code

  • @cyberstudentda9274
    @cyberstudentda9274 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    jaSON

  • @HarPlayer
    @HarPlayer 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    $$$$$$$$$$!!!!!!!!😄😄😄😜!!!!!!😜😄😄😄😜😜!!!!!!!!!!!! Is IT STILL WORTH IT!!!!!!!