After my brain injury (TBI), I have a similar idea. I think that the way to change your personal reality is by using logic with emotions. Our emotions give us a reason to solve a problem and logic helps us to solve the problem.
@Marie_AdamsI respect your thoughts about CBT and DBT but do not feel the same. As a person with bipolar, I need to remember that thoughts are just thoughts and that I don't have to use all of my thoughts. CBT is one of the tools that helps me with this. I use this as one of the tools I use, not the only tool. I am not using any of my tools to stay positive instead of connecting with negative feelings. This is perhaps because I don't use CBT without also using other tools, like meditations, the Enneagram theory, the idea of void, which is the fifth element in Japan. The void is about using emptiness as a useful tool. It opens us to new information, behaviors, feelings, and thoughts. These theories, CBT and DBT, are tools and we have to own what we do with these tools. If a person is using CBT as a way to not connect with deep trauma, that is a choice. I do not use CBT in this way, and that is also a choice.
@ThatsWhat-She. From the way you're talking, it sounds like you have either not engaged in DBT before, misunderstood it, or had a crappy therapist. Also, I don't think that DBT and CBT were designed specifically to help with trauma; there's likely another type of therapy designed specifically to help heal trauma.
So, it looks that what's called "Wisdom" is a hybrid thinking, using Reason (complex logical strategies) and Emotions (simple and robust evolutionary heuristics). Looks reasonable. This combination indeed could be better than either of those separately. The problem of reasoning alone is that our modern understanding and our modern minds are very poor at dealing with uncertainty, missing information and errors. And real life cases have more of those things than data and facts. So pure rational mind loses. And here simple robust heuristics comes to help, provides kind of rough estimates and borderlines.
I am familiar with the model but what I can't seem to find is a practical example of how to use it. In this sense, it is useless to me. Maybe I am too tired and in Emotional mind but that would certainly help.
I still don't get the point of emotions. What I want and desire can be measured in objectivity and reality. Saying that "my hopes/dreams don't matter = antithesis of emotion doesn't make sense because emotions can drive that decision (sadness, anxiety, envy, guilt) as well" Subjective experience is very important, but the ability to reflect on the fact our subjective experience isn't indicative of the experiences of others is also equally important. Personally I don't see wise mind as this 50/50 balance between the two but maybe 80/20.
Thank you simple and straight to the point. My goodness some of the materials I looked at confused me more.
After my brain injury (TBI), I have a similar idea. I think that the way to change your personal reality is by using logic with emotions. Our emotions give us a reason to solve a problem and logic helps us to solve the problem.
@Marie_AdamsI respect your thoughts about CBT and DBT but do not feel the same. As a person with bipolar, I need to remember that thoughts are just thoughts and that I don't have to use all of my thoughts. CBT is one of the tools that helps me with this. I use this as one of the tools I use, not the only tool. I am not using any of my tools to stay positive instead of connecting with negative feelings. This is perhaps because I don't use CBT without also using other tools, like meditations, the Enneagram theory, the idea of void, which is the fifth element in Japan. The void is about using emptiness as a useful tool. It opens us to new information, behaviors, feelings, and thoughts. These theories, CBT and DBT, are tools and we have to own what we do with these tools. If a person is using CBT as a way to not connect with deep trauma, that is a choice. I do not use CBT in this way, and that is also a choice.
@ThatsWhat-She. From the way you're talking, it sounds like you have either not engaged in DBT before, misunderstood it, or had a crappy therapist.
Also, I don't think that DBT and CBT were designed specifically to help with trauma; there's likely another type of therapy designed specifically to help heal trauma.
Thank you. Just got workbook and therapisy
I love Wise Mind. I teach it to my clients often.
This video is great, I would love to add Spanish subtitles to it!
I want to be the wise mind and I will be. Thank you for this.
So, it looks that what's called "Wisdom" is a hybrid thinking, using Reason (complex logical strategies) and Emotions (simple and robust evolutionary heuristics). Looks reasonable. This combination indeed could be better than either of those separately.
The problem of reasoning alone is that our modern understanding and our modern minds are very poor at dealing with uncertainty, missing information and errors. And real life cases have more of those things than data and facts. So pure rational mind loses. And here simple robust heuristics comes to help, provides kind of rough estimates and borderlines.
I am familiar with the model but what I can't seem to find is a practical example of how to use it. In this sense, it is useless to me. Maybe I am too tired and in Emotional mind but that would certainly help.
I’m new to DBT, and this example helped me at least get started: th-cam.com/video/WrpHXBo6UVU/w-d-xo.html
I still don't get the point of emotions. What I want and desire can be measured in objectivity and reality. Saying that "my hopes/dreams don't matter = antithesis of emotion doesn't make sense because emotions can drive that decision (sadness, anxiety, envy, guilt) as well" Subjective experience is very important, but the ability to reflect on the fact our subjective experience isn't indicative of the experiences of others is also equally important. Personally I don't see wise mind as this 50/50 balance between the two but maybe 80/20.
East meets West ...aha
This is just eastern philosophy. This woman is a money maker