What's My Line? - Soupy Sales (May 9, 1965)
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- MYSTERY GUEST: Soupy Sales
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, Robert Q. Lewis, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf
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Brilliant shows. So entertaining. John is a super host, so articulate and witty
Soupy Sales was a champion for respecting the intellect of children in a time when they were 'seen and not heard'.
Now they're heard too damned much. The seen-not-heard era seemed much better for the kids as well as the society as a whole.
There's a great little paperback novel called Jordy, Bounce, and Lilli, that captures the flavor of the post- WWII era through the lives of two small children and their cat. I know it's available on Amazon. I just finished my copy… loved it.
So Very Much Adoration Brevity & Respect for all ages of Children!
@@yankee2666are you the Child Catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang? You sound like him! 😂
I watched Soupy as a kid in the 60s
I loved Soupy Sales!
I also want to add, that this is a wonderful way to see now parted celebrities who were great in their day
Rest in powerful peace Milton "Soupy" Sales 🙏
8 January 1926 ~
22 October 2009⚘
Milton Supman
Soupy Sales , a fond memory from my childhood
My older brother and I loved Soupy's show! Lots of daytime tv was aimed at us kids back then, a much better time to be young than nowadays!!
Soupy was on the Ed Sullivan Show with the Beatles in 1965
Almost 60 years later and this is better than the garbage currently shown on television!
I remember Soupy Sales show as a small child; he fascinated me! It was like A Hard Day's Night or the Monkees but for small children: mayhem and chaos abounded. My mom would often come into the living room and watch him too.
Kenneth Butler White tooth and black fang!!! Remember them? He fascinated me also... be true to your teeth and they won’t be false to you!🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂😅🙋♥️‼️
@@suecastillo4056 o, blow blow! Or some such noise….
This was around the time Soupy told the kids in his TV audience to "take those green pieces of paper out of daddy's wallet and send them to me (Sales)". They did, and it made headline news, but Soupy got into some hot water for doing it and had to apologize.
I remember watching a few episodes as a kid in the 60's but I don't remember ever being asked to send money! Must have been before my time!
The incident in question occurred about four months before this episode of WML, on New Year's Day 1965. Soupy was miffed about being required to work on the holiday (presumably by either the flagship station on his show, WNEW-TV Channel 5 in NYC, or by Screen Gems who syndicated the show across the U.S.). But he chose an unfortunate and inappropriate way to protest. He told his young viewers to tip toe into the bedrooms of their parents who were still sleeping, take their "funny green pieces of paper with pictures of U.S. Presidents" and mail them to him.
I've read that he claimed that he expected the children would know he was joking. While he also said that much of what he received was Monopoly money and other forms of play money, many children did not know he was joking and they sent him U.S. currency. What;s worse, many of the envelopes came without a return address or anything inside that would identify the location of the sender. They returned whatever money they could and told the rest that they would donate it to charity. But many parents still protested and Soupy was suspended for two weeks.
I'm guessing that his appearance on WML was a way for Soupy to rehabilitate his image. It led to much more than that. Funny how life works out sometimes.
Also interesting that none of the panelists made a wisecrack that alluded to this incident. Since they couldn't be tipped off ahead of time, it speaks to the graciousness of the panel members.
My Mother said when I was 5 years old, Soupy was the only thing I would watch on TV. At 61 years old I have a strange sense of humor just like him
Me too!
Soupy was a class act
Davai007, a lot of past celebrities were class acts compared to what we have in 2020.
Have you ever heard his joke about battered wives?!? That wasn't classy at all.
I used to live 1.5 miles from him in Detroit. Used to see him in the neighborhood.
SOUPY SALES was a great entertainer and a brilliant man!
Loved the Soupy Sales Show.and What's My Line.💕💕
What a world of meaning, as Miss Kilgallen gives a deeply thoughtful and somehow knowing nod, and says, " THANK YOU, JOHN " during the first round.
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After the passing of Gloria's first husband, Ed Roeder, she later married John Dickmeyer, (who served in the army) and stayed married to him until she died. John Dickmeyer passed way in September, 2001.
Soupy Sales and White Fang were a big part of my childhood. Mrs. Roeder was a charming woman.
Even as a young adult I loved Soupy Sales!
I’m loving the way John’s hair is graying straight down the middle of his head only on the right side while the left side is still black.
You mean to say that of the thousands of comments you could have typed about this marvelously entertaining show and its guests you make a comment about someone's hair!? 😂😂
I mean it is a free country so.............
Volumes could be written about John's hair.
Not only is Arlene Francis adorable but she's funny as hell.
Her one-liners are always classic!
A total class act.
From 1960 to 1975, Gloria was host of the NBC show "Exercise with Gloria and Her Six Daughters." She helped produce an instructional exercise album, published a related exercise booklet and appeared on several talk shows, including "Today with Inga," and "The Mike Douglas Show." She received the Woman of the Year award from the Atlantic Models' Guild in 1962. She died of lung cancer in 1995 at age 71.
That's such a shame. Beautiful family, lovely woman. 6 girls.Wow. I can relate...we had 7 boys...finally a girl. Ty Jesus. ❤️🙏😳🙄
So weird. My mother had 5 daughters. I was their older brother. She died of lung cancer. To commemorate her life they all decided to work out and get in peak physical condition. They were featured in a broadcast of Inside Edition with Deborah Norville. The Latham sisters.
This is one of his 2 mystery guest appearances before he became regular panelist in the daily series.
The lady with all the girls looks so amazing for having six kids ( maybe sons , also ) , I find this very interesting , as I had 6 kids , and taught exercising .
"Has he ever been on this panel?" Talk about foreshadowing the syndicated series
Unfortunately, and I found this out on Google, Gloria passed away back in September of '95. Her first husband, the father of her daughters, passed away back in '78. She remarried back in '89. Two of her daughters, Donna and Gail, also passed away as well. One died in 2006. The other one died in 2010. That answered my question on whatever happened to her.
I remember the Exercise with Gloria program. It was shown here in Philadelphia on Channel 6 in the morning. I haven't seen that program in over 40 years. I wish that somebody would post it on here.
I'm originally from Philly and I remember that show.
Soupy was a "Tonight" show guest host in the period between Jack Paar and Johnny Carson in 1962.
Soupy Sales who was a mystery guest also played as a panelist in the 1969 revival version of WML
Very fond memories of The Soupy Sales Show in the 50s co starring Pooky, white fang and black tooth. Lunch with Soupy 5 days a week. Flying pies, his "words of wisdom" at the chalk board and a lot of improvisational comedy. A childhood hero, kind of a Pee Wee Herman of that time.
Jeff, I watched Pee Wee Herman. Pee Wee Herman was a friend of mine. Jeff, Soupy Sales was no Pee Wee Herman!
Joe Postove NO POLITICS! (just kidding, really. . . )
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What's My Line? No politics? (just kidding?) How many times have I been slapped hand for bringing up politics?
Edwin Rivera I was making a joke in response to a joke by Joe, which both of us understood and you didn't. That's all. No one brought up politics. Even if you don't get that this was the entire joke I was making, where do you see anyone bringing up politics here? That was the whole point.
I also don't recall ever slapping your hand for discussing politics, but if you brought up politics, then, yes, I'm sure I asked you to stop. As I do with everyone, every time. Without exception. You appear to be taking it personally, and while I feel sorry for you if that's the case, it's not my problem.
It would appear that both non-celebrity challengers on this episode were personally recruited by John Daly to appear on WML.
I use to watch the Soupy Sales show
The first guest Mrs. Roeder seemed especially comfortable and friendly on camera. No surprise to find out she was a TV instructor.
Loved her laugh..
She seemed phony to me.
I like the two-shot between Dorothy and Robert Q.
I'd like to see some isothermic exercises .
Did you notice that whenever a WML episode with guest panelist Robert Q Lewis is noted, Lewis is not mentioned in the title description? I like RQL.
@@babyfir77 I've noticed that too. I wonder why... 🤔
As advertised, this episode was a sign of things to come.
Soupy Sales would be a regular panelist on the new Daily Syndicated version of "What's My Line", on virtually every week of its 7-year-run, from 1968 to 1975.
I know some adults love Soupy Sales. But, c'mon, c'mon...not on WML! Huh?
Well, for slightly younger folks like me who only remember the syndicated show, Soupy and WML are close to being synonymous. It's all in the perspective! :-)
I guess, and I don't want to put down any Soupy fans that severely (he was not a BAD influence) he just really irritated me then and now. I do like the anarchic arts (Stooges...etc...), but he was childish and treated children the same way. I'm a Captain Kangaroo man, anyhow
@@MrJoeybabe25 I loved Captain Kangaroo too. 🖖🏼 How do you feel about Mr. Fred Rogers? He helped me to be a better parent to my children.
@@amethystanne4586 I was too old for Mr. Rogers. What I did see of him I liked very much.
The Roeder girls and their mother look like spring blossoms!
Unfortunately two of them have since decayed
Soupy would eventually be on the panel of WML in the 70's.
Was he ever on the classic panel?
Joe Postove Not sure.
+bigoldinosaur Yes, Soupy joined the classic WML panel three weeks later for the Anthony Newley/Joan Collins MG episode.
Bennett's jokes are one of the best parts of this show and I think he's underappreciated.
She had 6 daughters and keeps a figure like THAT!!!... Holy Moly! Her husband was a lucky man.
john is a great clock watcher, i was wondering why he cut the house mover fella short....its that he saw that time was getting short for soupy sales!
I love how the pancake make-up back them on T. V. made their skin look so flawless and porcelain like on the ladies.
This episode aired about 4 hours after Vladimir Horowitz returned to playing (at Carnegie Hall) after a 12 year hiatus.
Mr. Brackett the house mover had an interesting vocation, but looked miserable and never cracked s smile once.
Moving house is very stressful
As for "Ski Party" (which would be released in the U.S. on Thursday, 30 June 1965):
The other cast principals besides Robert Q. Lewis were Frankie Avalon (without Annette Funicello (she does in an uncredited cameo role, just as Frankie had the year before in "Pajama Party," in which her co-star was Tommy Kirk)), Dwayne Hickman (after "The Many Loves of Dobie Gillis" and "Cat Ballou"), Deborah Walley (after "Gidget Goes Hawaiian" and "The Young Lovers" and before "Spinout" and "The Mothers-In-Law"), and Yvonne Craig (after the Ballets Russes and "Kissin' Cousins" and before "Batman"), Bobbie Shaw Chance, and The Hondells. Alan Rafkin directed; the script was written by Robert Kaufman; the musical score was by Guy Hemric and Jerry Steiner.
Those who have commented that "Ski Party" was a tired entry into a past-its-prime genre are quite correct; for instance, "Ski Party" was the only one of A-I's beach-party films for which Les Baxter didn't write the musical score. But American-International Pictures continued to try to mine gold from dross for a while longer, with such films as "How To Stuff A Wild Bikini," "Sergeant Dead Head," "Dr. Goldfoot and the Bikini Machine," "The Ghost in the Invisible Bikini," and even "It's A Bikini World" (which was filmed in 1965, but was not released until April of 1967; it starred Tommy Kirk, Deborah Walley, Bobby Pickett, Suzie Kaye, Jack Bernardi, and William O'Connell, and it was the second movie directed by Stephanie Rothman (who would score a hit in 1970 with her third directorial effort on the big screen, "The Student Nurses")).
"Fireball 500" (1966) and "Thunder Alley" (1967) are basically beach-party movies applied to the world of auto racing, but they're a bit darker that the beach-party movies before them.
When Dorothy asked the first contestants if they played musical instruments, John should have butted out and left it up to Dorothy to ask the follow-up: "Does that have anything to do with why you are being featured here?"
Love the guy, but it always tweaked me when he did that.
Don't let it tweak you! There are bigger problems in life 😊
@@edmundpower1250 - Whewww... thank you! I'll sleep much better tonight. 😏
@@princeharming8963 I doubt it😊
What goes around comes around... at the beginning Bennett made fun of John for not understanding another word for anemic (due to my bad English I couldn't hear the Word properly) [2:41]. Later in the program Bennett confuses the words 'isothermic' and 'isometric'. [13:08] Serves him right! :)
It's not your English that makes it hard to understand exactly what word Bennett said in his intro of John. Every time they repeated the word throughout the show, it sounded different to me!
Haha. :) I think it's "tabescent" which means wasting away; becoming emaciated or consumed. I found it in an online dictionary - imagine what Bennett would think of the incredible resources we have at our fingertips these days!
YT Smith Imagine what Bennett would think of the fact that here we are, 60 years later, discussing what word he used in an introduction for John Daly on an episode of WML!
as usual dorothy saved the day it was tabescent with a B...i googled tebescent...
bennett and john constantly volleyed back and forth with the fancy words just for fun of course.
bennett knew damn well that nobody...even john...would know what "tabescent" means! who would!
I'd be interested in an isothermic exercise...That's one where you don't get all hot and sweaty but stay as cool as you were before, right?
Arlene had quite the chat with Mrs. Roeder on her way out.
She was asking who roeder 😅
I assume that she saw Arlene Francis as a role model and wanted a few words with another woman in television
Always liked Soupy. I like soup too.
Geez! Mr Hill is just Mr Excitement...
Yes...I agree. In fairness I suspect he was out of his ' comfort zone ' so that may have been the reason. He certainly looked like the sort of guy who would be a ' stickler ' to work for. Mr.Fun he aint.
I wish I had smooth, blemish-free skin like Dorothy has!
You could if you had her makeup artist.
Dorothy asks Soupy has he been on the panel before and Soupy answers no. Then Robert Q. asks him (seemingly jokingly) if he would like to be. Soupy (perhaps going with the joke) says that he does. Little does he know that, one way or another, his wish would be fulfilled over three years later.
Libertu Bey Soupy Sales lived in Manhattan. He was available.
The Roeder girls were precisely curled which must have taken some time.
Dorothy Kilgallen looks so pretty here
John has acquired a Pepe la Pew streak in his hair
WML MG Charles Boyer was the inspiration for Pepe Le Pew
In the syndicated version of WML?, Soupy was one of two regular panelists (Arlene was the other), and proved to be remarkably astute at playing the game, usually getting the correct guess after the first round or two of play.
When David Bowie recorded music with Soupy's sons, their father would call the studio. His phone calls were put through the studio monitors and they would fall about laughing. Dare I say, Soupy's humour was rather more RIPE than evidenced here. If you want to find out how ripe....check out an example of his 'jokes' in the biography 'Starman' on David Bowie by Paul Trynka, page 343. If you thought Bernard Manning was dodgy...!!
Apparently, Soupy gave the 'Young Rascals' their name in '65 when they were just beginning their careers as Soupy's back-up band during a tour of college campuses. This parallels Arizona legends 'Wallace and Ladmo', two older guys doing a kids show who took on rock bands as part of their act in the 1960s, and even created one that appeared on the Steve Allen Show. Wallace and Ladmo did their show for 35 years. .
Dorothy kilgalen still a mystery 😮
it's my birthday today (may 9th) so i figure i'd watch my birthday episode (:
By the end of the first segment, there were a lot of Roeder rooters among John and the panelists.
Lois Simmons - Ouch.
Bennett would love that.
My mother told me I used to kiss the screen whenever Soupy came on.
I agree with the panelist a very moving story (2nd guest), thanks for these episodes, they don't make good clean entertainment like this anymore
Soupy 😢rip brother
12:40 : first mention of skateboard, I believe, on WML. Would not be the last.
21:40 Utterly prophetic. Dorothy: Have you been on this panel?
Robert Q: Would you like to be on this panel?" Soupy: " Yes sir."
And then John "He would be great on this panel. The Shape of Things to Come.
+soulierinvestments Pat (Patti) McGee, pioneering female skateboarder, appeared as a contestant on "What's My Line?" the following week (May 16, 1965).
I’ve been complaining about Soupy on the way he behaves as panelist on the syndicated version of this show, but seeing how many commenters here have enjoyed him on his own show, I will shut up. He has a lot of supporters.
I always enjoyed Soupy Sales on What’s My Line? (1968 - 75). He was always eccentric and somewhat louche, sometimes inappropriately so, but tended to evoke a chuckle. I remember one contestant managed a nudist camp, and after the reveal, Soupy jumped up and asked if they were going to show videos. 🤦♂️😂 But I understand not everyone would appreciate his brand of humour.
I'm assuming that the reason why the panel wasn't blindfolded for the first contestant[s] was because the tv show wasn't aired nationally but either locally or regionally
Yes. Arlene made a comment about it at the end of the segment.
Brackett is the oddest given name I’ve ever heard. (And I knew someone called Stalin.)
My family has a kind of game listing odd first names of people they've met.
What about Soupy Sales? 😮😅
WML had an affinity for employed girls. I remember best that kid TV ventriloquist from Boston.
Bennett referring to the King Family. A large singing family originally from a singing sister quartet from Pleasant Grove Utah. They appeared a lot on TV variety in the mid sixties and in the late sixties had their own ABC variety program. "Love at Home" was their theme song.
Tina Cole of "My Three Son" fame was a member of the King Family. She was married to Robbie on the show for many years.
Does anyone know what Bennett says when he comes out at the beginning of the show? He says "One more cry and......." ? ? ?
He was addressing the Random House sales representatives in the audience. He stumbled a bit over his words, but he said, "One more cry and you'll be transferred to Knopf."
I think at about 7:20 John says that the family service might please some people by them having a sense of participating. If the contestant had said that John would have admonished them.
Wasn't there a police drama on tv years ago called "Brackett Hill: House Mover!"
You're thinking of "Hackett Brill: Mouse Hoover!"
Reluctant Dragon YES! That was also on radio during the Hoobert Heever administration.
Or perhaps you are thinking of Sir Arthur Streeb-Greebling (or is it Sir Arthur Greeb-Streebling)?
Wonder why there are no captions for this video
I have such a crush on Bennett Cerf ... wish there were more like him today!!!
His son Christopher Cerf looks just like him.
Ick !!
Bennett was very funny and himself and John were great on this
I met Cerf once. An extremely intelligent man, very funny and a total gentleman.
The panelists looked genuine happy when seeing Soupy Sales as the MG. There must have been several occasions when one or two of the panelists got an unpleasant surprise when realizing who the MG was. I mean, someone he/she really couldn't stand, or despised, And they maybe had asked fawning questions or praised the MG's career. Then taking of their blindfolds and seeing the person who they least of all would want to meet and greet...
I'm think Bennett's thoughts right now when he took off his mask to see WHO? Bob Keeshan would have made a great MG and he was on CBS! That would have been a gas!
Joe Postove Was his show national at that point though? I really don't know.
Gary, Captain Kangaroo started on CBS in 1955 (Keeshan was 28!) and remained on the network for about 30 years. He then went to PBS for a short time and faded away. I don't think it was ever a local show.
Joe Postove Okay, I didn't know that. It is odd, then, that he was a never a mystery guest. What city was the show broadcast from?
What's My Line? Captain Kangaroo always came from NYC. He even did two shows a day early on. And he was the last taped show (non-rerun) show on CBS Daytime to go to color in 1967.
You'd think in 1965 people would avoid the Hitler moustache :=O
Nick Doe Indeed. Imagine fashioning that one in the mirror with your razor. How could you not think....
Bennett again! The second guest moved houses. [20:03] Mr funny guy! :)
Johan Bengtsson - One of the most moving stories we’ve ever heard! :D
Wow! Good old Mr Hill was just a Ball O'Fire wasn't he??
Perhaps he was nervous.
I really don't like that bow in Dorothy's hair. Or when her hair is up in pony tails. It looks so much better down.
Is that your contribution?
Awww looks like Mr. Cerf isn't as smart as he thinks he is. 😳 Loves to quip though. SMH. 😁
When I think that Dorothy had two personal hairdressers, I can't condone tonight's look! 🎀
This look was not good for a mature woman...
She looked ridiculous!
I want my dollar back !! I've idolized Soupy since I was a kid .
It sounded like Bennett whispered something about Chubby Checker to Arlene after inquiring about SS's weight. Around 21:40
No, I think he had Jackie Gleason in mind. Hence the "ck" sound.....
@@jmccracken1963That's what I thought.
Yet
omg! bennett has a DEFINITE R-W speech impediment!
genius mchaggis You've only just noticed?? He announces "modderwwwader John Charles Daly" every week!!
@@davidsanderson5918
dont know why i didnt notice earlier!
..not like elmer fudd..
or kripke..
Robert Q. Lewis' "Ski Party" was shockingly not a hit, even though it had teen faves like Frankie Avalon and Dwayne Hickman! en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ski_Party#Reception
Mr. Lewis! 1963 called, they want their era back.
James Brown sang "I Got You (I Feel Good)" and Lesley Gore sang "Sunshine, Lollipops and Rainbows" by Marvin Hamlish.
Even Dorothy starred in one these beach party film. She played herself in "Pajama Party" in 1964. :)
I'm kind of surprised that since Bennett Cerf is educated and runs a major publishing corporation is as dense as he appears to be.
Soupy appeared as a regular panelist on the 1970s version of WML. Arlene also regularly appeared, but that later series lost its charm, class, and character of this original,Feb. 1950-Sep. 1967.
Special K used to be good. Now it sucks.
Arlene always tries to get the guests to perform. WHY?
Also I bet I watched Soupy Sales as a kid in LA because I was raised there. and it would have been around '62-64 as I would be around 7 then
Mark Richardson I don't know the guy....but there's a decidely bad taste joke of his in a biography about Bowie (who worked with his sons) and it would make a few people here think a little differently about him!!!
I was unable to verify the rumor that the second challenger, Brackett Hill, had a brother named Parenthesis Hill.
I wonder if he felt unbalanced his whole life? Also very disappointed he didn't sign in with [^
Actually, it's the same guy. After Parenthesis Hill had served his sentence, he decided to go straight.
@@jackkomisar458 Yes, that was his story. But later on, police discovered that Parenthesis had just handed them a line.
I had no idea Dorothy was a Mouseketeer
+Galileocan g Who ever said she was? You must be making some sort of a joke referencing something in the show, but I'm not sure what.
It was a joke. When she came out, I looked at her head, and thought she had white mouseketeer ears on
+Galileocan g LOL!!! I get it. I thought she looked like she had Micky Mouse Ears on too.
Purple Capricorn In my defense. . . . I watched the episode itself in months ago, I just didn't remember. :)
What's My Line?
I have been guilty of not remembering what was in a video and receiving a confusing comment as well.
can u imagine wearing a gown on a tv game show
It's deplorable that you don't include Robert Q. Lewis in the heading, above. Extremely unprofessional of you.
I’m really tired of John’s frequent Tilton School references on WML. I’ve heard at least 75 such mentions over the duration of this series. I doubt I’ve ever referenced my own high school more than twice in forty years. I never put it on a resume, nor mentioned it during a job interview. John Daly seems to have an extremely emotional and obsessive attachment to his high school, that far surpasses most people’s attachment to their unversity or college - or even their first husband or wife!
Tilton School is a College Preparatory high school. I find it to be endearing that high school was remembered by John Daly with great fondness. The school carried a reputation for high standards and was a cut above a regular high school.
Not everyone had an unpleasant high school experience.
@@belindaalbright8798 Well, Tilton was a co-educational boarding school (unusual in that era), so perhaps Daly's good memories are not altogether based on academia.
But you're not on TV
John Daly on Gloria Roeder and her daughters: "In 15 years on this program, this is the most female beauty that we've seen on the stage as a contestant."
Well, it's a nice thing to say, and it's mostly true, but yes and no. The ladies, both mom and daughters, ARE all beautiful - but previous contestants did include the June Taylor Dancers, the DeMarco Sisters, and the McGuire Sisters, so there really had been or was as much or more beauty in a contestant group several times in times past. Now, if one is talking only about "ordinary Joe/ordinary Jane" groups of contestants (but not Mystery Guests), then he's fully right.
jmccracken1963 - I think John is being gracious and complimentary to these lovely ladies, rather than literal. :)
Did Dorothy ever look in a mirror...? She had bizarre taste in hair styles, and that ribbon/bow !!?
Michael Danello Have you ever looked into a mirror? That face...
I see..she is a mouseketeer.
Dorothy dressup is unbecoming !
I remember watching these in New Zealand, when I was 7. Soupy Sales was the only one who's name and face I recall.