I want to thank you for posting these episodes . This has helped me through more than the pandemic. The panel and John have become like friends and kept me going. Happily, I'm on the other side of the tunnel. Thanks again
One other thing I find remarkable is when Lorna's singing with her, they sound just like their mom. Liza has all the stage presence though--it's really intriguing to see what a difference it makes
Oh Bennet Cerf, let Liza shine in the glory of being a Mystery Guest without labouring the point of her being Garland's daughter. Good for her, she brought in her father to balance things out. Liza was always in her mother's professional shadow (constantly being compared with her) as a fellow entertainer, and it must have been hard to shine on her own merit always being alluded to as “the daughter of..”.
@@meldeb3k That has nothing to do with my point. I’m sure Liza was, and is, very proud (as she should be) to be her parents' daughter. My comment was about Liza having to prove herself as a performer in her own right because of it.
@elspethcoogan1499 Sorry, but that comes with the territory. And she did quite well on her own, and in the end, now that she is older, I am sure she is very proud of having the world know her as Judy Garland s daughter! Who wouldn't be? And who doesn't know the name Liza Minelli?
I agree. At this nascent time of Liza's career when nothing was sure, it was obvious that she was going to be awhile trying to crawl out of her mother's shadow, as the previous generation of Judy's fans here on the panel amply demonstrate. It's hard to blame them however; so many people were in awe of Judy.
Arlene being an absolute sweetheart and saying sorry she guessed it so fast to the first guest 💖💖 Arlene really was so intelligent and kind, she is one of my absolute favorite people ever 💖💖 ((Also the second guest is from the same small town in Iowa as Radar from MASH and that gave me such a kick 😹😹))
Just imagine all that Paul Anka has experienced. He was quite young here in rubbing elbows with the rest of the panel, and most recently was a contested on Masked singer now at the age of 79 in 2020, more than 55 years later.
Recently I have been watching Paul Anka play "Password" on the early versions that were recorded in b&w. His intelligence is very impressive. He has a very logical mind, very good at deductive reasoning and building upon the previous answers. On WML, a panelist's skill is measured by more than how many solves did they achieve. It's also about how much did they advance the process in narrowing the focus and getting the panel closer to a correct answer. For example, Paul's question to the last challenger as to whether she was associated with that year's World's Fair got a "no" answer, but it was a logical first question to ask anyone from a foreign country. It immediately eliminated a lot of avenues that the panel might have gone down in questioning. Therefore, it was a good question.
Liza has had people cheer her name from a very young age and for over 50 years, and she is still an incredibly decent, likable, kind person. Amazing that a huge celebrity can be so UN-celebrity-like. Love you Liza.
It's great seeing mystery guests before they peaked in their careers, which obviously applies to Liza Minnelli. "Cabaret" and "Liza with a Z" (both from 1972) showed off a talent that the panel and audience of "What's My Line?" would have never seen coming in 1965.
I don't think there is another parent child situation in Hollywood where the talent is this AMAZING. The Coles obviously, Cissy and Whitney but Liza is so wonderful
Paul Anka was only 23 years old here (he turned 24 on July 30). I gather he was one of the youngest Guest Panelist on WML. His name has now and had then a constant humorous touch in Sweden - 'anka' is the Swedish word for 'duck' as in 'Donald Duck'. :)
Johan Bengtsson As in youngest "adults" but there were a 9 y.o. magician, an about 11 y.o. conductor who worked world-wide, and of course young Brandon DeWilde (who couldn't have been older than 12) of Shane.
I was 12/13 in 1965. When skateboards came out we would take our metal skates, the kind with the key that you attached to your shoes, pull them apart and screw them to the bottom of a piece of plywood. Voila, a skateboard!! Ah, the days when kids were innovative and active, and were able to play safely outside all over town.
You bet! I was 14 at that time & my sister did exactly that with our metal skates. Part of the beltway around DC was under construction at that time behind our house in MD so we were up there as soon as it was surfaced in asphalt, skateboarding to our hearts content.
Sicilia928 LOL - safety... I was in 8th grade (1966-67) when I made a skateboard in exactly the same way. I was gliding down a hill when the texture of the asphalt changed from smooth to rough. The skateboard slowed down but I didn’t. I wound up breaking my arm. After that I decided that homemade skateboards weren’t very safe!
Thank you so much for posting these WML. I guess you don't read our messages today given you were posting and uploading weekly a few years ago, so the interaction must've been fun. It's lovely to see these days online again. Thank you for sharing. Gosh Liza was so beautiful and gushing. She sounds so much like Judy when she was younger. They even talk the same!
It’s fun and interesting to me to watch this show that was recorded live when I was only 6 weeks old. :) And I learned that skateboards were a new thing back then! I had thought they existed way before this because one of my earliest memories as a 3 year old was of my teenage brother riding on his skateboard, and when I was 4 years old, I remember him using his skateboard often. 😀
A very happy exchange between Dorothy, Bennett and Liza et al after about the 18 minute mark. Sadly, within 6 years Dorothy, Judy Garland and Bennett will all be gone.
It takes something to win the Tony Award as Best Actress in a Musical in a show that was a flop and ran only 87 performances. (Thx, wiki.) She must have wowed 'em.
The "panel" was very often spot-on when they correctly identified a "mystery guest" in quick fashion. For the most part, it was a matter of knowing "whom" was in town at any given moment. Bennett Cerf was especially good with this portion of the show, because he (as Random House publisher) HAD to know about every celebrity in New York at any given point in time. It was a huge part of what he did - and Mr. Cerf was quite successful with this popular portion of the show. He fully did his homework - and it quite well showed.
He didn't have to know who was in town by virtue of being a publisher, no-- but he did make a special point of scouring the NYC papers in advance of the shows so he'd be aware of which celebrities were in town that week.
+What's My Line? Yes, Bennett talks about that in his 1968 oral interview. He said that the panel often had a good idea who the mystery guest would be but they wouldn't immediately guess the person.
Not a good reflection of the show's production staff. When the panel got "too good" they should have switched up to stop that. It was very disappointing when they got it so soon.
Some of the young performers who made it onto WML as MG's or guest panelists had relatively brief moments in the light of stardom. This episode features two young stars who had staying power through their multiple talents. What a joy it is to see them here, early in their careers.
Miss McGee was lovely. I had a skateboard around 1965 when my Dad took roller skates and attached them to the bottom of a piece of wood. That was my skateboard. No pads or helmets back in those days. We also rode our bikes with no helmets or pads either. Those were the days for better or worse. Thanks for the video.
Wonderful to see this episode of WML after Patti McGee passed away a month ago in October 2024. She was a pioneer and often credited globally as the first professional women's skateboarder. I'll bet those first early skateboards are very different then what's available today.
Liza says at one point that Soupy Sales is terrific when Bennett complains that he expected Liza last week and got Soupy instead. She and Soupy Sales appeared in the same episode of her mother's variety program in 1963.
The skateboards must have been a new thing. I move to Calif. in 1964 and put my foot on my neighbor's skateboard and went flat on my back. Never got back on one again. And I also lived in Covina for 25 years. I met Paul Anka 15 years after this show in Las Vegas, he had a new nightclub and I met him there. Memorial weekend in 1978. This show brings back a lot of memories.
jazz96mar I was born in SO CALIF IN 1962. Grew up in Glendora Ca. My Grandma lived in W Covina!! Small world. Look for me on FACEBOOK if you'd like!! I'm in AZ now.
The Girls Skateboarding Championship of 1965 was held in Anaheim, California, 1 week after this program aired. You can watch some of it on TH-cam. It was covered by ABC.
Skateboarding had been around for several years, but the 60's and 70's was when it started to catch on, and by the 1980's, the popularity of skateboarding reached to heights like never before, especially in Los Angeles, the skateboarding capital of America. And now you have pro-skateboarders; Tony Hawk being the most famous.
According to a particular Voice of Broadway column that ran in newspapers throughout the United States and Canada in August 1964, Dorothy's son Kerry, age ten, brought his skateboard with them when they traveled to California to film their brief appearances in a beach party movie. Dorothy wrote that they stayed in a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel near a bungalow where Richard Burton was staying, and Kerry provided Burton with his first witnessing of a skateboard in action -- at least that was what Burton told mother and son. I wish I could add a Jpeg scan of the column but it's impossible to do that here. You would have to give money to Newspapers.com to read it there. Don't do that, of course.
I was in this theater in 2009. It was called CBS Studio 52 back in 1965. Today it's called called Studio 54 where plays are still performed to this day.
Bob Sewvello Thanks for the info. I knew the disco was a studio, but didn't realize it was the one where they filmed WML, etc. and apparently close to Ed Sullivan's theatre since they mention the Beatles in one of these.
+barbee0715 Actually, Studio 54 and the Ed Sullivan Theater are right next to each other. The Ed Sullivan Theater faces Broadway while Studio 54 faces 54th Street. The was once a door that lead from one theater into the other. The door was sealed with concrete during the David Letterman renovation in 1993.
I recognized the name of the town Mr. Hull lived in because later a very famous person also came from Ottumwah. I recognized it immediately because it was often mentioned as Radar's hometown.
Let me tell you something, Dorothy Kilgallen was really good at this, but Arlene Francis was second to none. She was, without internet, very, very well read and informed...
liza had just turned 19. fascinating guest with the skate board career, the "fad" apparently died down fairly quickly after it started, now of course a major multi-billion dollar industry. the lady skate boarder patti mcgee was just 19 herself. and amazing how arlene nailed down her craft all by herself. dorothy would sadly be dead in less than 6 months.
Yes it was. John and Bennett were close friends and enjoyed needling each other. It was always good natured, although it sometimes appeared to be real enough that people would write in to the show to request that the two be nicer to each other.
Joe Ambrose: LIKELY MORE PEOPLE THAN GIVE A FUCKING SHIT ABOUT A DEPRESSING PIECE OF CRAP LIKE YOU, LIKELY EVEN YOUR FAMILY!!How’s about that? Joey Luft wisely stayed out of show business and worked as a photographer.
About the celebrity guessing... Dorothy's column was called 'Voice Of Broadway'. She knew how to narrow things down quickly. And yes, the others all had the pulse of entertainment down pat... It was what they all did.
I actually got my first skateboard 2 or 3 years before this show aired. It had metal wheels. My older brother liked it so much he went out and bought himself a nicer one with better wheels.
Early skateboards were really dangerous. They had steel wheels. Not sure when they started using polyurethane (or something similar), which was much more forgiving.
I just watched that scene in Goldfinger the other day during a James Bond marathon! John Charles Daly made every contestant feel so welcome and comfortable .
Until several months ago, I had no idea that Liza Minnelli, the famous daughter of Judy Garland was a Mystery Guest on this show. But as they always say "You learn something new every day". And of course, her famous Mother, Judy Garland, was a Mystery Guest two years later.
kbrock 9146 I remember a world before skateboards (no one had any in my part of the world at this point). In fact I remember a world before Star Wars too.
Liza was one of the youngest female mystery guests ever -- 18. [two male mystery guests appeared when they were 11 / 12] Paul Anka is one of the youngest guest panelists -- 24ish.
I didn't realize that Liza Minelli was that young when she had her first starring role on Broadway and won a Tony for it. Sue Lyon comes to mind as one who was younger: she was 4 months younger than Liza and appeared a year earlier. Another coming to mind is Tuesday Weld who was 18 going on 19 when she appeared in January 1962.
I already noticed several times that people had class and style back then, in the US as well. Nowadays many things seem so vulgar and cheap... sorry to say
It's simple...there is no respect today..I grew up in the 50's and 60's...there was respect, there were manners...yes sir, no sir, yes mam, no mam, excuse me, thank you...etc., etc....
@@davidsanderson5918 I remember those times quite well, and yes, good manners were the norm and expected. We were taught this in our home and in public schools as well. The rudeness and coarseness in manners today was simply not the case back then.
I have heard and seen in old newsreels that even in the great depression,people lined up for food lined dressed as well as they could .We had dignity back then Men dress as slobs now,and some women are practically naked in public.Much more class back then.
Very true note, on clothing, and class back then. Today people aspire to very different norms of dress, often completely inappropriate and vile. Thinking most people who enjoy WML reruns would love a return to better civility in dress, manners, speech and kindness, as we have lost a tremendous amount of character, in this country. European countries often perform so much better, in these areas.
04:37 Ms. McGee is still very active in the sport. If you'd like to get an update see: growsk8life.blogspot.com/2013/02/exclusive-interview-with-patti-mcgee.html
Arlene asks "is there any difficulty in your job, beyond the difficulty we all find in our work" so fast and got a NO...that even John missed it! And she goes on to another question. We should note this when it happens. I'll put up a chart at the drugstore downtown, ok?
My fave remembrance of Minneli was in the movie 'Arthur' as her character consoles her sobbing dad, (the actor who went on to become the beloved Jerry Seinfeld's dad in 'Seinfeld'.), after she briefly broke up with the billionaire. 😁 Tee Hee!
I love and adore this show, in so much I have been watching it chronologically since the beginning. HOWEVER, it's disappointing when they "get" the line right away. And, Im sorry but Arlene's oddly specific questions with the skateboard only lend to the rumor the panelists were sometimes fee the line beforehand.
Sad to see that Judy Garland and Vincent Minnelli had divorced by this time, but Liza made a point of mentioning him. That said, Liza married four times, but at least she outlived her mother.
I remember, as a wee tyke back in the 50s, accompanying my mom to go shopping downtown. She always wore a suit, high heels, kid gloves and a hat with a veil.
How interesting- after 20+ years working in management in Atlantic City's Casinos, My all time favorite and all time most despised celebs on the same show!! Liza is just a delight, someone who I could easily be best friends with; and 'Tall Paul'?? You wouldn't believe it even if I could tell you...unbelievable! :-(
National Museum of American History (Smithsonian) "Life magazine featuring first professional women skateboarder, Patti McGee ... In 1964, Patti became the first female to win the National Skateboard Championships and achieved another first in 1965 as she became the first female pro skateboarder. Patti went on to appear on the television show “What’s My Line” and “The Tonight Show” with Johnny Carson after being featured on the cover of Life magazine in May of 1965. She was also the only woman to be featured on a skateboard magazine cover when she appeared on the May 1965 issue of Skateboarder Magazine. Patti was a worldwide ambassador for the skateboarding world in the 1960s and continues in that role today with her induction into the Skateboarding Hall of Fame, the first female to hold that honor."
![What's My Line? - Robert Goulet; Tony Randall [panel] (May 23, 1965)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/uftfRHHO6pQ/mqdefault.jpg)
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![What's My Line? - Minnesota Fats; Ann Sothern; Alan King [panel] (Jan 17, 1965)](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/oLEvHuM3WWI/mqdefault.jpg)
I want to thank you for posting these episodes . This has helped me through more than the pandemic. The panel and John have become like friends and kept me going. Happily, I'm on the other side of the tunnel. Thanks again
Hang in there.
I grew up watching these shows and it is so fantastic to be able to watch them again it's like seeing them for the for the first time.
I am addicted to this show. I need WML rehab.
Same here! Arlene Francis cracks me up!!
Craig Smith me too
I think it must be an epidemic. My husband has become jealous of MML? Of course, I am in bed with WML? at 4 am instead of him, so who can blame him?
17 years... 800+ episodes...
The addiction was generational.
Please tell me where I can check in too...
I too am addicted to wml. Such politeness is very refreshing.
Too bad the panel expected Liza and guessed right away. Otherwise her accent was quite good and non-revealing.
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Nobody was a better jazz dancer than Liza. Then, there’s that voice. She definitely inherited her mother’s talent.
One other thing I find remarkable is when Lorna's singing with her, they sound just like their mom. Liza has all the stage presence though--it's really intriguing to see what a difference it makes
That was brilliant to see a young fresh Liza Minnelli
everyone is so gracious and well mannered. Wish we see more people like that.
Oh Bennet Cerf, let Liza shine in the glory of being a Mystery Guest without labouring the point of her being Garland's daughter. Good for her, she brought in her father to balance things out. Liza was always in her mother's professional shadow (constantly being compared with her) as a fellow entertainer, and it must have been hard to shine on her own merit always being alluded to as “the daughter of..”.
Lighten up.
Nothing wrong with being the daughter of the greatest female voice ever!
@@meldeb3k That has nothing to do with my point. I’m sure Liza was, and is, very proud (as she should be) to be her parents' daughter. My comment was about Liza having to prove herself as a performer in her own right because of it.
@elspethcoogan1499 Sorry, but that comes with the territory. And she did quite well on her own, and in the end, now that she is older, I am sure she is very proud of having the world know her as Judy Garland s daughter! Who wouldn't be? And who doesn't know the name Liza Minelli?
I agree. At this nascent time of Liza's career when nothing was sure, it was obvious that she was going to be awhile trying to crawl out of her mother's shadow, as the previous generation of Judy's fans here on the panel amply demonstrate. It's hard to blame them however; so many people were in awe of Judy.
I love Paul Anka. What great music he’s given us.!
"Polanka" was famous globally! How fun to see him on WML!😍
Didn't he write the theme song for The Longest Day?
@@KororaPenguintheme song for The Tonight Show starring Johnny Carson... And "My Way" for Frank Sinatra
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"My Way". That steaming pile of cow manure.
I didn’t realize he was so pretty at that young age.
Gosh Liza was soooo adorable here. I see a lot of Judy's mannerisms and the way she spoke here. Two legends!
In the title card for the video, she reminded me of Susan Foreman from Doctor Who. But that has to be coincidence.
Liza was simply stunning! ❤️
Arlene being an absolute sweetheart and saying sorry she guessed it so fast to the first guest 💖💖 Arlene really was so intelligent and kind, she is one of my absolute favorite people ever 💖💖
((Also the second guest is from the same small town in Iowa as Radar from MASH and that gave me such a kick 😹😹))
Arlene was simply brilliant!!
Or was told the "line" beforehand. The questions she asked were too oddly specific.
and always dressed "to the nines"
@@GCoop1985 They weren't told the line beforehand. Geesh. You must be a man. It's soooo unfathomable to you that a woman could be so brilliant.
Made me really mad that the contestant rolled her eyes. I know he threw all the cards over but I hope they didn't give her a cent.
Just imagine all that Paul Anka has experienced. He was quite young here in rubbing elbows with the rest of the panel, and most recently was a contested on Masked singer now at the age of 79 in 2020, more than 55 years later.
Love this show. Always have.
Hello Lynn, How are you doing?
Recently I have been watching Paul Anka play "Password" on the early versions that were recorded in b&w. His intelligence is very impressive. He has a very logical mind, very good at deductive reasoning and building upon the previous answers.
On WML, a panelist's skill is measured by more than how many solves did they achieve. It's also about how much did they advance the process in narrowing the focus and getting the panel closer to a correct answer. For example, Paul's question to the last challenger as to whether she was associated with that year's World's Fair got a "no" answer, but it was a logical first question to ask anyone from a foreign country. It immediately eliminated a lot of avenues that the panel might have gone down in questioning. Therefore, it was a good question.
Hello Lois, How are you doing?
Staff hated Paul Anka.
Why ?
Liza has had people cheer her name from a very young age and for over 50 years, and she is still an incredibly decent, likable, kind person. Amazing that a huge celebrity can be so UN-celebrity-like. Love you Liza.
I do wish that they could have demonstrated some of these products. Skateboards were a novelty.
I love Liza Minnelli! She is a sweet unaffected wonderful talent! She was hilarious is Arrested Development!
Like how Roberto Clemente embodied what a sports star ought to be?
It's great seeing mystery guests before they peaked in their careers, which obviously applies to Liza Minnelli. "Cabaret" and "Liza with a Z" (both from 1972) showed off a talent that the panel and audience of "What's My Line?" would have never seen coming in 1965.
I don't think there is another parent child situation in Hollywood where the talent is this AMAZING. The Coles obviously, Cissy and Whitney but Liza is so wonderful
I always thought Frank, Jr. was about as good as his dad.
Kirk and Michael Douglas were up there .
@@kennethlatham3133That's exactly right! Practically identical set of pipes.
Paul Anka was only 23 years old here (he turned 24 on July 30). I gather he was one of the youngest Guest Panelist on WML.
His name has now and had then a constant humorous touch in Sweden - 'anka' is the Swedish word for 'duck' as in 'Donald Duck'. :)
***** Exactly. In Denmark he is "Anders And".
Johan Bengtsson As in youngest "adults" but there were a 9 y.o. magician, an about 11 y.o. conductor who worked world-wide, and of course young Brandon DeWilde (who couldn't have been older than 12) of Shane.
@@danielfronc4304 Wait. Bengtsson said "guest panelist". The three kids you mentioned were guest panelists?
Liza sounds SOOO much like her mom when she was young!
Did Liza Minnelli ever had children? I know she got married more than twice throughout her life but never heard she had kids.
@@cayetanotirado5907 no Liza does not have children.
Liza is fearless.
Brigth Woman
I was 12/13 in 1965. When skateboards came out we would take our metal skates, the kind with the key that you attached to your shoes, pull them apart and screw them to the bottom of a piece of plywood. Voila, a skateboard!! Ah, the days when kids were innovative and active, and were able to play safely outside all over town.
yes. It was safe to roam around then. Such a time it was.
You bet! I was 14 at that time & my sister did exactly that with our metal skates. Part of the beltway around DC was under construction at that time behind our house in MD so we were up there as soon as it was surfaced in asphalt, skateboarding to our hearts content.
Sicilia928 LOL - safety... I was in 8th grade (1966-67) when I made a skateboard in exactly the same way. I was gliding down a hill when the texture of the asphalt changed from smooth to rough. The skateboard slowed down but I didn’t. I wound up breaking my arm. After that I decided that homemade skateboards weren’t very safe!
The kids in my neighborhood nailed the skates to 2x4s 🤣
Thank you so much for posting these WML. I guess you don't read our messages today given you were posting and uploading weekly a few years ago, so the interaction must've been fun. It's lovely to see these days online again. Thank you for sharing.
Gosh Liza was so beautiful and gushing. She sounds so much like Judy when she was younger. They even talk the same!
Dorothy was the best panelist. She knew how to ask the right questions. Too bad she would not be around much longer after this show.
The deep state took her out
MURDERED. SCAMerica was so corrupt back then and even worse today. Terrible
@Beatnik yea. She had character flaws and blabbed to everyone she knew who hit JFK. Loose lips sink ships.
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It’s fun and interesting to me to watch this show that was recorded live when I was only 6 weeks old. :) And I learned that skateboards were a new thing back then! I had thought they existed way before this because one of my earliest memories as a 3 year old was of my teenage brother riding on his skateboard, and when I was 4 years old, I remember him using his skateboard often. 😀
Little did they know then what a huge industry and sport it would become, especially when the California kids started seeking abandoned pools to ride.
A very happy exchange between Dorothy, Bennett and Liza et al after about the 18 minute mark. Sadly, within 6 years Dorothy, Judy Garland and Bennett will all be gone.
I miss dorothy on the next shows
Oswaldo Milano me too 😞
Thank you, Debbie Downer!
No children
Quinn Joel after Dorothy’s passing the show was never the same, in my opinion.
Omg Arlene pulled the skate board out with one round of questions. She was good
She was. But helped because John Daly had to have his little joke.
@@bbailey7818so true she may have got a small hint from him saying that
13:25
ARLENE got the first one right away. She called it, skating board. Good job.
Apparently it was just invented. She said one of those new skating boards.
It takes something to win the Tony Award as Best Actress in a Musical in a show that was a flop and ran only 87 performances. (Thx, wiki.) She must have wowed 'em.
we were so young then....ah..Liza..Love you
WHAT A TALENTED PERSON WHO WORKED HARD TO TAKE THEM EVEN FURTHER .
Just saw Paul Anka at Mohegan Sun...at 77yo, he was fantastic... adorable here, but a mature Paul is pretty wonderful, too!
I bet he was.
I'm dieing here in 2019 when she asked ms McGee " is it one of those new skating boards?"😂😂
lisabeth crawford I remember the mid-1970s when skateboards were cool and all the rage. Now it's standard transport for a lot of people.
The "panel" was very often spot-on when they correctly identified a "mystery guest" in quick fashion. For the most part, it was a matter of knowing "whom" was in town at any given moment. Bennett Cerf was especially good with this portion of the show, because he (as Random House publisher) HAD to know about every celebrity in New York at any given point in time. It was a huge part of what he did - and Mr. Cerf was quite successful with this popular portion of the show. He fully did his homework - and it quite well showed.
Please explain why a publisher would have to know every celebrity visiting New York. I don't get the connection.
He didn't have to know who was in town by virtue of being a publisher, no-- but he did make a special point of scouring the NYC papers in advance of the shows so he'd be aware of which celebrities were in town that week.
+What's My Line? Yes, Bennett talks about that in his 1968 oral interview. He said that the panel often had a good idea who the mystery guest would be but they wouldn't immediately guess the person.
Not a good reflection of the show's production staff. When the panel got "too good" they should have switched up to stop that. It was very disappointing when they got it so soon.
sometimes a celeb will use their voice when they shouldn't. The judges, or whoever makes the rules, let it slide.
Some of the young performers who made it onto WML as MG's or guest panelists had relatively brief moments in the light of stardom. This episode features two young stars who had staying power through their multiple talents. What a joy it is to see them here, early in their careers.
The skateboard wheels then were fixed, so that turning and doing all the stunts done today were much more difficult in 1965.
Those teenaged eyerolls by the first guest are adorably hilarious.
Liza Minnelli was a very bubbly vivacious young lady back then.
Miss McGee was lovely. I had a skateboard around 1965 when my Dad took roller skates and attached them to the bottom of a piece of wood. That was my skateboard. No pads or helmets back in those days. We also rode our bikes with no helmets or pads either. Those were the days for better or worse. Thanks for the video.
Paul Anka, what a handsome man. Jason Bateman is married to one if his daughters.
Who gives a phuck
When Liza says "I don't know what she was doing but I was terrified." She sounded just like her mother in the Wizard of Oz.
Wonderful to see this episode of WML after Patti McGee passed away a month ago in October 2024. She was a pioneer and often credited globally as the first professional women's skateboarder. I'll bet those first early skateboards are very different then what's available today.
Liza says at one point that Soupy Sales is terrific when Bennett complains that he expected Liza last week and got Soupy instead. She and Soupy Sales appeared in the same episode of her mother's variety program in 1963.
'Radar' O'Reilly was from Ottumwa, Iowa!!!
This is the 2nd WLM contestant from Ottumwa (population of 25,000 in 2010) - go figure!
This is my favourite show. I watch it with my mom
The skateboards must have been a new thing. I move to Calif. in 1964 and put my foot on my neighbor's skateboard and went flat on my back. Never got back on one again. And I also lived in Covina for 25 years. I met Paul Anka 15 years after this show in Las Vegas, he had a new nightclub and I met him there. Memorial weekend in 1978. This show brings back a lot of memories.
jazz96mar I was born in SO CALIF IN 1962. Grew up in Glendora Ca. My Grandma lived in W Covina!! Small world. Look for me on FACEBOOK if you'd like!! I'm in AZ now.
Snoozefest
19:01 ... Judy Garland: Died June 22, 1969 (aged 47)
Liza would shortly win the Tony Award for "Flora, The Red Menace."
As Gary said, it is not a video glitch. Apparently, it is missing, because it was lost during the rushed assembling of "What's My Line at 25".
Random fact....Katharine Hepburn rode skateboards...
On Golden Pond?
+JazzKeyboardist1 I just love the mental image this conjures up!!!
only in the winter
Fred Astaire took up skateboarding in his late 70s and enjoyed it, though in one accident he broke a wrist.
I call B$ post photos and affidavit
Good to see an adorable, young Liza Minnelli when she was first starting out.
Skateboard started then, amazing! And noboby could imagine how successful it would be and for how long!
The Girls Skateboarding Championship of 1965 was held in Anaheim, California, 1 week after this program aired. You can watch some of it on TH-cam. It was covered by ABC.
Rest In Peace Judy and Liza. 2 great actresses and singers. Overdue condolences to the families for your loss. 😔💐💐
Liza is still living
Paul Anka was unbelievably handsome here!
My old boyfriend was Lebanese, he was really handsome, too.
Skateboarding had been around for several years, but the 60's and 70's was when it started to catch on, and by the 1980's, the popularity of skateboarding reached to heights like never before, especially in Los Angeles, the skateboarding capital of America.
And now you have pro-skateboarders; Tony Hawk being the most famous.
According to a particular Voice of Broadway column that ran in newspapers throughout the United States and Canada in August 1964, Dorothy's son Kerry, age ten, brought his skateboard with them when they traveled to California to film their brief appearances in a beach party movie.
Dorothy wrote that they stayed in a bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel near a bungalow where Richard Burton was staying, and Kerry provided Burton with his first witnessing of a skateboard in action -- at least that was what Burton told mother and son. I wish I could add a Jpeg scan of the column but it's impossible to do that here. You would have to give money to Newspapers.com to read it there. Don't do that, of course.
These were the old fashioned metal wheeled skateboards, remember.
To see John and Bennett on a skateboard - that would be a sight to remember. :)
@@2508bona yep , wasn't any rubber wheels, lol
I was in this theater in 2009. It was called CBS Studio 52 back in 1965. Today it's called called Studio 54 where plays are still performed to this day.
Bob Sewvello Is that the Studio 54 that was the big disco in the late 70's also?
Yes. It's on 54th Street in New York.
+barbee0715 Between Broadway and 8th Avenue.
Bob Sewvello Thanks for the info. I knew the disco was a studio, but didn't realize it was the one where they filmed WML, etc. and apparently close to Ed Sullivan's theatre since they mention the Beatles in one of these.
+barbee0715 Actually, Studio 54 and the Ed Sullivan Theater are right next to each other. The Ed Sullivan Theater faces Broadway while Studio 54 faces 54th Street. The was once a door that lead from one theater into the other. The door was sealed with concrete during the David Letterman renovation in 1993.
Wow, back when skateboards were new.
Matthew Greer Doesn't seem so long ago to me. I'm 53 and I remember when they came out here in the UK.
I recognized the name of the town Mr. Hull lived in because later a very famous person also came from Ottumwah. I recognized it immediately because it was often mentioned as Radar's hometown.
Loved Liza in the movie Arthur. She's amazingly talented and beautiful, just like her mother Judy. 🥰👏
In an alternate universe, Liza Minnelli and Paul Anka met tonight, fell in love, got married and became a Steve and Eydie-type act.
LOL.. How many of Liza's husbands were kind of gay? Liza's husbands never sang the Having my baby tune
According to the articles I read o. The web. She tried to have children but miscarried several times
Douche drema
That mighta worked
love miss killgallen
What was Paul Anka whispering to Arlene while Liza was signing in? Sh e looked horrified at what he said.
Teri Anne Beauchamp
Yeah, at 16:50. Interesting.
Get a life
Joe Ambrose Why are you watching this show? If you're not observing the small details you're missing out BIG time.
honestly glad they got it right away and we got a cute little interview
Let me tell you something, Dorothy Kilgallen was really good at this, but Arlene Francis was second to none. She was, without internet, very, very well read and informed...
Wow this girl was a pioneer in skateboarding 🛹
I think I've heard of her, even though this was a long time ago.
Hard to skateboard in a covered wagon.
liza had just turned 19. fascinating guest with the skate board career, the "fad" apparently died down fairly quickly after it started, now of course a major multi-billion dollar industry. the lady skate boarder patti mcgee was just 19 herself. and amazing how arlene nailed down her craft all by herself. dorothy would sadly be dead in less than 6 months.
Liza look so gorgeous here.....
I guess it was one of the shows running gags to have John Daly and Bennett throw mostly good-natured barbs at eachother.
Yes it was. John and Bennett were close friends and enjoyed needling each other. It was always good natured, although it sometimes appeared to be real enough that people would write in to the show to request that the two be nicer to each other.
Whatever happened to Joey Luft? I used to enjoy him on "The Judy Garland Show" in 1963-64.
Who gives a phuck
Joe Ambrose: LIKELY MORE PEOPLE THAN GIVE A FUCKING SHIT ABOUT A DEPRESSING PIECE OF CRAP LIKE YOU, LIKELY EVEN YOUR FAMILY!!How’s about that? Joey Luft wisely stayed out of show business and worked as a photographer.
@@johnpickford4222 💗💗💗💗
That Liza glow! Always beautiful!
About the celebrity guessing...
Dorothy's column was called
'Voice Of Broadway'. She knew how to narrow things down quickly. And yes, the others all had the pulse of entertainment down pat... It was what they all did.
I actually got my first skateboard 2 or 3 years before this show aired. It had metal wheels. My older brother liked it so much he went out and bought himself a nicer one with better wheels.
Early skateboards were really dangerous. They had steel wheels. Not sure when they started using polyurethane (or something similar), which was much more forgiving.
Liza was so fresh, charming and charismatic.
Love Arlene.
Great show. The panel always looked elegant
I wonder if the production staff had the skateboard game in the works before it got mentioned for the first time on WML the week before.
I just watched that scene in Goldfinger the other day during a James Bond marathon!
John Charles Daly made every contestant feel so welcome and comfortable .
Until several months ago, I had no idea that Liza Minnelli, the famous daughter of Judy Garland was a Mystery Guest on this show. But as they always say "You learn something new every day".
And of course, her famous Mother, Judy Garland, was a Mystery Guest two years later.
Gil Fate wrote some very interesting notes about Judy Garland's appearance on WML. We'll save that for the 1967 show. :)
Johan Bengtsson
@Diane Newman No Goodson-Todman shows were rigged.
If you would design the perfect face Miss Liza had it. What a beauty.
Liza looked flawlessly beautiful.
Liza Minnelli was so cute when she was young. Resembles her mother, but a spitting image of her father really. Too bad they guessed her so fast.
It would be fascinating to know what happened in Paul Anka's introduction that was so funny that WML at 25 considered using it -- and lost it.
soulierinvestments - I wondered about that.
It may have been taken for some reason other than being funny. Note that the audience was not laughing when he came in. Nor was he.
3:28: 10 years after Marty McFly invented the skateboard.
Wait - Liz Minnelli is Judy Garland's DAUGHTER? She oughta mention it sometime.
Yes, and i guess she was still alive when this episode aired.
patty1977 yes judy died 4 years after this
This is crazy how they're all amazed at this "new board" that came out; referring to the skateboard. lol
kbrock 9146 I remember a world before skateboards (no one had any in my part of the world at this point). In fact I remember a world before Star Wars too.
Liza was one of the youngest female mystery guests ever -- 18. [two male mystery guests appeared when they were 11 / 12] Paul Anka is one of the youngest guest panelists -- 24ish.
I didn't realize that Liza Minelli was that young when she had her first starring role on Broadway and won a Tony for it. Sue Lyon comes to mind as one who was younger: she was 4 months younger than Liza and appeared a year earlier. Another coming to mind is Tuesday Weld who was 18 going on 19 when she appeared in January 1962.
Grow up
Joey Alfidi was 8 and appeared as the MG for being the world's youngest symphony conductor.
Don't forget that repulsive little girl who had her own tv show. Only time I've ever hated a child.
Liza, one of my favorite people on the planet.
And in later years Liza would live in the same apartment building as Paul Anka LA.
I already noticed several times that people had class and style back then, in the US as well. Nowadays many things seem so vulgar and cheap... sorry to say
It's simple...there is no respect today..I grew up in the 50's and 60's...there was respect, there were manners...yes sir, no sir, yes mam, no mam, excuse me, thank you...etc., etc....
People's dress matches their attitude now days!
This is television though. Dressed up, polite. Outside the studio was quite different.
@@davidsanderson5918 I remember those times quite well, and yes, good manners were the norm and expected. We were taught this in our home and in public schools as well. The rudeness and coarseness in manners today was simply not the case back then.
Yes the woman were dressed so elegant and they were so polite and respectful ..today the girls are too sleezy and are after the almighty dollar
I have heard and seen in old newsreels that even in the great depression,people lined up for food lined dressed as well as they could .We had dignity back then Men dress as slobs now,and some women are practically naked in public.Much more class back then.
Very true note, on clothing, and class back then. Today people aspire to very different norms of dress, often completely inappropriate and vile. Thinking most people who enjoy WML reruns would love a return to better civility in dress, manners, speech and kindness, as we have lost a tremendous amount of character, in this country. European countries often perform so much better, in these areas.
04:37
Ms. McGee is still very active in the sport. If you'd like to get an update see:
growsk8life.blogspot.com/2013/02/exclusive-interview-with-patti-mcgee.html
Arlene asks "is there any difficulty in your job, beyond the difficulty we all find in our work" so fast and got a NO...that even John missed it! And she goes on to another question.
We should note this when it happens. I'll put up a chart at the drugstore downtown, ok?
Bennett Cerf was a terrible snob. Good for Liza for saying Soupy Sales was wonderful.
Chris N Have you heard Soupy Sales' 'joke' about battered wives? You wouldn't be seen as a snob for thinking worse of him after that. It's a shocker.
My fave remembrance of Minneli was in the movie 'Arthur' as her character consoles her sobbing dad, (the actor who went on to become the beloved Jerry Seinfeld's dad in 'Seinfeld'.), after she briefly broke up with the billionaire. 😁 Tee Hee!
I love and adore this show, in so much I have been watching it chronologically since the beginning. HOWEVER, it's disappointing when they "get" the line right away. And, Im sorry but Arlene's oddly specific questions with the skateboard only lend to the rumor the panelists were sometimes fee the line beforehand.
Sad to see that Judy Garland and Vincent Minnelli had divorced by this time, but Liza made a point of mentioning him. That said, Liza married four times, but at least she outlived her mother.
AND in 4 years, Judy Garland was dead at age 47.
Lovely how Arlene Francis is wearing gloves!!
Gloves are do classy. I wear them sometimes but not everytime I dress up like they did back then.
I remember, as a wee tyke back in the 50s, accompanying my mom to go shopping downtown. She always wore a suit, high heels, kid gloves and a hat with a veil.
The second contestant was from Radar's hometown! 🙂
How interesting- after 20+ years working in management in Atlantic City's Casinos, My all time favorite and all time most despised celebs on the same show!! Liza is just a delight, someone who I could easily be best friends with; and 'Tall Paul'?? You wouldn't believe it even if I could tell you...unbelievable! :-(
National Museum of American History (Smithsonian)
"Life magazine featuring first professional women skateboarder, Patti McGee
... In 1964, Patti became the first female to win the National Skateboard Championships and achieved another first in 1965 as she became the first female pro skateboarder. Patti went on to appear on the television show “What’s My Line” and “The Tonight Show” with Johnny Carson after being featured on the cover of Life magazine in May of 1965. She was also the only woman to be featured on a skateboard magazine cover when she appeared on the May 1965 issue of Skateboarder Magazine. Patti was a worldwide ambassador for the skateboarding world in the 1960s and continues in that role today with her induction into the Skateboarding Hall of Fame, the first female to hold that honor."