Mulcher is only 2.5% and roller is only 2.5% so my advice is to skip them and just get a seed drill so all you need to do after harvest is fert then seed drill then put a weeder over it then fert again and you will have 95% and it will take half the time
@@ArthurDayne_SOTM you do if you need to. Check the map page and the field, select “requires lime” only and see if the field needs it. Apply lime as one of the first steps.
Interesting, this one really surprised me. I've been mulching before I seeded with the Pottinger direct drill for my sorgum fields, not realizing this. Good find!
Farmers don't mulch and direct drill because this type of seeder cannot properly break down crop residues into the soil. You cultivate it properly. A direct drill is not a cultivator!
It's not a bad idea at all. Personally, I just like to fertilize right after harvest (lime first if needed), Mulch, and then direct drill with fertilizer. After that, I roll everything in, then use the weeder to get them the best I can before any weeds sprout. After that, you could spot spray the weeds the next day/month just to make sure if you want to. That way, your feeld is set to go without narrow tiers!
Real answer, Always! Because in all my testing it hasn't even given a 5% yield bonus..... Maybe 3.5% at best, just not worth the time in my opinion. Same with rolling....
Check out the FS Academy. It shows that rolling and mulching give 2.5% yield bonus, not 5%. In another video, taking ALL costs into consideration, mulching and rolling don't give additional profit, they simply pay for themselves. So, if you want to be realistic and do it all, you make the same money. If you don't want to do it, you will make the same money. Its more than just yield, its maintenance costs, equipment investments, time, work costs, etc - its really all about NET PROFIT.
@@dansiegel995 I've been studying the Academy I formation. I get that there are other costs associated with the processes of maxing out yield, but we aren't looking at that right now. The goal of my testing is to determine how to get the max yield. Everyone's net profits will be different because if the variables in the equipment. 6 meter vs 13 meter header, 3 meter cultivator vs 12 meter cultivator. Might do a net profit test, but not sure. Will need to find comparable width equipment for all crops.
@@Driver53Gaming Well, a critical resource is indeed. You will need to factor that in too, which would result in accounting for different width implements and their working speed. It would prove that bigger vehicles and implements are indeed worth it, IF you have the land to use them.
@@dansiegel995 A good ballpark figure on which tool is more efficient is to consider how many hectares it can process per hour. Which is easy enough to calculate, (speed in km/h * width in m) / 10 = hectares per hour. The bigger question is how many passes will it take, because the amount of time spent turning around (especially if you use AI workers) does add up. So a long, narrow field is better than a square field. Suppose the following: You have 2 fields, Field 1 measures 1km x 10m, Field 2 measures 100m x 100m. Both fields are 1ha. You have a tool that is 10m wide and operates at 10km/h. And it takes the AI 30 seconds to turn around and align between passes (also it always aligns perfectly on the first try and has no overlap). To process Field 1 takes an AI worker 6 minutes, as it can complete the entire field in a single pass. To process Field 2, it will take the AI 10 minutes and 30 seconds, of which it spends 4 minutes and 30 seconds turning around between the 10 passes it needs to complete the field. Granted this is an extreme example, but it does become a factor once you start looking at money made per hour played. There are tasks the AI simply cannot do at all, so it makes sense to have the AI do some fieldwork while you do the things the AI can't do. As most of us only have a limited amount of time to play.
Still trying to work it all out, but this saves some time, so thanks. Currently working out if the roller is best before or after planting (with a conventional drill) Great vids, keep up the good work 👌👍
I use a direct drill and never mulched but could only get 198% yield bonus and only got the 200% bonus when using a mulcher. I have never checked the yield though so maybe I'll do the same test and compare since the game has been updated
Can’t tell somebody tell the Xbox players what’s going on with farm simulator 20 to keep screen freezing up on us and going to a black screen if you look in the Microsoft center on the games are hundreds of complaints about it I’ve emailed giant three times with no reply and it’s getting very frustrating only get to play 30 seconds at a time it’s been going on for four days Siri where you can help us or help me with this problem
So the direct drill planter, do you still get a bonus for plowing or cultivating before? Or just harvest, plant, fertilize, let it grow, fertilize again. Also would it benefit from being rolled?
Rolling after drilling will give the same bonus as rolling after regular planting. It is a seperate bonus by itself. What's happening when you mulch before drilling is that the fertilizer application that takes place during the drilling isn't being applied evenly. This causes the reduction if no more fertilizer is applied. To catch up in the areas that are missed you will need to apply two more passes of fertilizer. It's an additional cost for time and maintenance that can be avoided if you don't run the mulcher at all.
How have you heard of Xbox players having problems with the farm simulator 22 game freezing up after a couple minutes or going to a black screen I’ve sent farm simulator giant sorry two emails I’m not getting a response back and I’m getting pissed because I can only play for like 30 seconds this is been going on for four days straight now we can’t get any answers can you and I see all sorts of complaints on the Microsoft page for Xbox about it this is not affecting farm simulator 17 or I’m sorry 19 so they can play that and never have a single problem Is there somebody I can direct an email to you to find out what the problem is
I know Giants is working on a patch to fix things for console players. I will send your message to the community coordinator but can't guarantee anything past that.
Just spoke with Giants and they said there are two options. #1 is to wait on the patch. I know it isnt a great one as we all want to play. The second ootion is to uninstall and reinstall the game without mods.
Mulcher is only 2.5% and roller is only 2.5% so my advice is to skip them and just get a seed drill so all you need to do after harvest is fert then seed drill then put a weeder over it then fert again and you will have 95% and it will take half the time
so you dont apply lime?? im so confused
@@ArthurDayne_SOTM you do if you need to. Check the map page and the field, select “requires lime” only and see if the field needs it. Apply lime as one of the first steps.
Interesting, this one really surprised me. I've been mulching before I seeded with the Pottinger direct drill for my sorgum fields, not realizing this. Good find!
Farmers don't mulch and direct drill because this type of seeder cannot properly break down crop residues into the soil. You cultivate it properly. A direct drill is not a cultivator!
It's not a bad idea at all. Personally, I just like to fertilize right after harvest (lime first if needed), Mulch, and then direct drill with fertilizer. After that, I roll everything in, then use the weeder to get them the best I can before any weeds sprout. After that, you could spot spray the weeds the next day/month just to make sure if you want to. That way, your feeld is set to go without narrow tiers!
Just what I needed not sure how to use it correctly so thanks
Real answer, Always! Because in all my testing it hasn't even given a 5% yield bonus..... Maybe 3.5% at best, just not worth the time in my opinion. Same with rolling....
I've got another more in depth video releasing on Wednesday showing the exact percentage the mulcher giver when used in the correct process.
Check out the FS Academy. It shows that rolling and mulching give 2.5% yield bonus, not 5%. In another video, taking ALL costs into consideration, mulching and rolling don't give additional profit, they simply pay for themselves. So, if you want to be realistic and do it all, you make the same money. If you don't want to do it, you will make the same money. Its more than just yield, its maintenance costs, equipment investments, time, work costs, etc - its really all about NET PROFIT.
@@dansiegel995 I've been studying the Academy I formation. I get that there are other costs associated with the processes of maxing out yield, but we aren't looking at that right now. The goal of my testing is to determine how to get the max yield. Everyone's net profits will be different because if the variables in the equipment. 6 meter vs 13 meter header, 3 meter cultivator vs 12 meter cultivator. Might do a net profit test, but not sure. Will need to find comparable width equipment for all crops.
@@Driver53Gaming Well, a critical resource is indeed. You will need to factor that in too, which would result in accounting for different width implements and their working speed. It would prove that bigger vehicles and implements are indeed worth it, IF you have the land to use them.
@@dansiegel995 A good ballpark figure on which tool is more efficient is to consider how many hectares it can process per hour. Which is easy enough to calculate, (speed in km/h * width in m) / 10 = hectares per hour.
The bigger question is how many passes will it take, because the amount of time spent turning around (especially if you use AI workers) does add up. So a long, narrow field is better than a square field.
Suppose the following: You have 2 fields, Field 1 measures 1km x 10m, Field 2 measures 100m x 100m. Both fields are 1ha. You have a tool that is 10m wide and operates at 10km/h. And it takes the AI 30 seconds to turn around and align between passes (also it always aligns perfectly on the first try and has no overlap).
To process Field 1 takes an AI worker 6 minutes, as it can complete the entire field in a single pass. To process Field 2, it will take the AI 10 minutes and 30 seconds, of which it spends 4 minutes and 30 seconds turning around between the 10 passes it needs to complete the field.
Granted this is an extreme example, but it does become a factor once you start looking at money made per hour played. There are tasks the AI simply cannot do at all, so it makes sense to have the AI do some fieldwork while you do the things the AI can't do. As most of us only have a limited amount of time to play.
Still trying to work it all out, but this saves some time, so thanks. Currently working out if the roller is best before or after planting (with a conventional drill) Great vids, keep up the good work 👌👍
The video releasing on Wednesday will show the best method to use to get the max yield.
@@Driver53Gaming Looking forward to that one.
I think what wrong is that the 1775 isn't a DDP and the shop description is a mistake
I use a direct drill and never mulched but could only get 198% yield bonus and only got the 200% bonus when using a mulcher. I have never checked the yield though so maybe I'll do the same test and compare since the game has been updated
I'm assuming you added the 100% fertilized bonus? The other 2% might be bees
Bro another banger
I think this is a bug. Is this issue replicable when done using separate cultivator and seeder (not direct drill?)
This issue does not happen when using a regular seeder/planter.
Well thats interesting
Can’t tell somebody tell the Xbox players what’s going on with farm simulator 20 to keep screen freezing up on us and going to a black screen if you look in the Microsoft center on the games are hundreds of complaints about it I’ve emailed giant three times with no reply and it’s getting very frustrating only get to play 30 seconds at a time it’s been going on for four days Siri where you can help us or help me with this problem
Driver !!!!What's up brother good vid .
So the direct drill planter, do you still get a bonus for plowing or cultivating before? Or just harvest, plant, fertilize, let it grow, fertilize again. Also would it benefit from being rolled?
There is an affect to the yield for plowing. I've got a video releasing Wednesday that shows the proper process and the data to validate it.
@@Driver53Gaming awesome, can't wait to see it. Thanks!
Try rolling after direct drilling with mulching.
Rolling after drilling will give the same bonus as rolling after regular planting. It is a seperate bonus by itself. What's happening when you mulch before drilling is that the fertilizer application that takes place during the drilling isn't being applied evenly. This causes the reduction if no more fertilizer is applied. To catch up in the areas that are missed you will need to apply two more passes of fertilizer. It's an additional cost for time and maintenance that can be avoided if you don't run the mulcher at all.
@@Driver53Gaming Ahh. Good to know. Thanks. 👍
How have you heard of Xbox players having problems with the farm simulator 22 game freezing up after a couple minutes or going to a black screen I’ve sent farm simulator giant sorry two emails I’m not getting a response back and I’m getting pissed because I can only play for like 30 seconds this is been going on for four days straight now we can’t get any answers can you and I see all sorts of complaints on the Microsoft page for Xbox about it this is not affecting farm simulator 17 or I’m sorry 19 so they can play that and never have a single problem Is there somebody I can direct an email to you to find out what the problem is
I know Giants is working on a patch to fix things for console players. I will send your message to the community coordinator but can't guarantee anything past that.
Just spoke with Giants and they said there are two options. #1 is to wait on the patch. I know it isnt a great one as we all want to play. The second ootion is to uninstall and reinstall the game without mods.
you have a working strong farmer mod correct if so may i ask where you got it from
I'm not using that mod. I'm using console commands to fly.
Anybody know how many bales you can make on console before it doesn't let you make any more?
The bale limit is 200 still.
Did you try cultivate in between
Cultivating would solve this issue but the advantage of a direct drill is that you do not need to cultivate or plow before putting seed in the ground.
Interesting...
What's a direct drill
A direct drill is used to put seeds into the ground without having to plow or cultivate the soil.