Just a note. I signed up for the 2 Gig speed from AT&T and initially I was only seeing 1 gig speeds, even though the tech from AT&T showed me that the router was putting out 2.5 gigs. Turns out my OWC Thunderbolt 4 dock will only put out 1 gig max on that ethernet port. Had to purchase a Cable Matters USB to 2.5 Ethernet adapter to plug directly into the M1 Max Macbook Pro to see the 2 gig speeds. So if you have a Macbook Pro, you'll need an Ethernet adapter capable of 2 Gig and higher to see those speeds.
I have a few 10G capable systems. But that’s all internal. Otherwise I am back on 1G because 5G is overkill and wasted. I only got 5G for video purposes
Same exact thing happens to me today. It showed I was only getting 1 gig speed when we did the test. But on his side showed 2.5. It connected directly into my pc with a very expensive cat8 Ethernet and I still cannot achieve 2.5???? Can someone help please. Paying for something I’m not getting.
iPerf uses TCP by default, try running your tests with UDP and your speeds will probably increase significantly. There's a ton of overhead with TCP and you might be hitting packet and processing limits. Also increase your packet size if you can. I haven't used iPerf a ton but larger packets give you more bandwidth due to the reduced overhead.
The overhead remains the same, you just have increased payload. Think of it as comparing the payload as an envelope vs a box while the shipping label remains the same.
Those intel nics are from the server segment. They only do 10G/1G/100Mbit. They predate multigig ethernet by a few years. The 540 was launched in 2012 and the 520 in 2010. Still good cards but you need 10G ports on your switch to run them at full speed.
One note on the “gamer lag” is that the 2gig and 5gig tiers are on completely separate physical fiber switches in your neighborhood. There *may* be some benefit to be in the latest gen of fiber switches although personally my latency is identical after switching to the 5gig service.
Having 5 gigabit internet in America right now is just future proofing yourself; all of the critical services that gamers and TH-camrs utilize will still be limited. Keep in mind that the throughput of the server providing the data will always limit your internet connection. 🙂
@@zeddy893 Enterprise servers and NICS handle Tb/s of throughput. Yeah, you're limited, but not to the point of less than 10Gb. I have ATT new 5gb fiber. On Steam and GDrive I get speeds of 3.8-5 gigs all the time.
X is for 10. An XFP is a 10 gb Small Form Factor Pluggable while the SFP is Small Form Factor Pluggable. Like Nathaniel mentioned GPON the fiber technology type, Gigabit Passive Optical Networking.
GPON is technically up to 2,5Gbps capable, but usually only 1Gbps, so it need to be more likely a XGPON (a 10Gbps capable PON variant) for you to get 5Gbps out of it.
i skimmed the video looks like it's geared towards laymans people. they called the SPF+ adapter a GPON and i'm sure it is since all sorts of stuff can fit in SPF+ and i didn't see much discussion about using your own multi-gig or 10Gbps router or bridge mode because not everyone wants the ISP proved weak sauce router. also noted SPX was just reiterating what they were tald by the tech /ATT not sure if SPX has that level of networking experience AGAIN I SKIMMED THE VIDEO EDIT: not all 10Gbps equipment is multigig capable and have speeds between 1gbps and 10gbps, 5 gbps came out AFTER 10Gbps so those old ass NICs don't have 5Gbps OR weren't designed for as they are look like the enterpise server models but i think it's that they look like the older enterprise models based o t he size and heatsink deisgns
This just foreshadows the huge confusion coming to consumers as we move beyond the 1 GbE standard in homes. Yes, motherboards are starting to come with 2.5 GbE ports as multi-Gig becomes more prevalent, but consumers in general are clueless about the rest of the devices between the ISP modem and their end computers (switches, using the right port on the ISP router, etc.). I expect for years to hear about people paying for greater than 1 gigabit internet service but only “discovering” months or years later that they were passing it through a 1 gigabit bottleneck on the way to their end device and never realized it until later. I can imagine the tech support headaches and calls this will produce too: “I’m paying for 2.5Gbps and I only get 1Gbps. You’re ripping me off!” Eye roll.
Yeah it’s going to be a big problem for sure. Especially since ISPs have successfully got people to associate bandwidth with speed. It’s going to be insane for call centers
@@SPXLabs IMHO 2.5 gig is DoA, the 10 gig ports for RJ45 TX (twisted pair) are only a few $ more expensive, and as said here, the support costs are eating up the savings on 2.5 hardware ... besides the data traffic increases 20% or so every year, so the 2.5 will be too slow 'soon-ish'
Reminds me of someone who was asking why they got a new laptop and was seeing 600Mbps on Wi-Fi, but they were sure they had a 100Mbps tier cuz that was all the wired desktop could get. Turned out they were using powerline adapters. And they had paid for Gigabit for God knows how long by that point lol
Yeah definitely for the "average" consumer. Heck on their 5 Gbps plan, I guess only one device can really take advantage of the full speed since only one of the ports on the BGW-320 gateway is 5 Gbps. They do label it on the device though.
I've recently switched from 1 gig to 5 gig. The first thing I've noticed is the increased speed on all my devices. I have a smart home with four people in the house . I actually have over 48 devices connected to my AT&T router at one time. It's true that I don't see 5 gig speeds on my devices. I do however notice that my ring camera videos come up instantly. My download speeds are faster on all my devices. I think the moral of the story for those with many connected devices is that you'll notice the increased bandwidth will speed up all your devices as a whole especially if you have as many connected devices as I have.
Comment I was looking for. Damn comcast would throttle my internet and Wi-Fi on my phone is slow, download speeds on my pc is slow, using Netflix, Hulu I would get the loading ring. I just said to hell with this I’m getting att fiber 5gig. Just waiting for it to get installed and will see how it compares over my current internet service.
I work remotely and am a Learning Management System Administrator. I upload SCORM courses to the LMS on a regular basis and HATE to WAIT! I cannot wait to upgrade! :)
I've seen tons of people have issues with the UDM Pro hitting the 4.7Gbps.For better results try using a pfSense build for the WAN connection and transitioning over to your UniFi switch. I've had good results with that.
With most of the features turned off, the UDM Pro will hit 5Gbps but what's the point of that lol. I'm just too lazy for pfsense right now. I see it recommended all the time but idk. I'd under-utilize it's capabilities I suppose. We will see though. All you pfSense lovers are wearing me down lol, I may cave soon.
Nice video, I went for 5Gbps as well, but bought a MikroTik CCR2116. It's overkill, the CPU hits 18% at 4.5Gbps, pretty much line rate. That's with MikroTik's fastpath/fast tracking off. Total beast of a router, CCR2004 likely would've been sufficient.
Hey, most of ISPs will cap your speed and when they will detect you are using "speed tests" they will unleash your internet speeds. About Iperf: I have seen already, that some ISPs will also cap this type of test, so when I am testing my setups, I usually change Iperf port to something different and repeat the test using also "common" port, like 21/80/443/8080. Cheers!
@@cliffx7 actually i pulled that out of my arse end based on what i'm hearing from insiders at other big telecom companies LIKE AB&B or Derizon who do outsource
the main reason why people should be signing up for faster speeds is so that this speed will become the norm across America. Many countries have way faster internet.
Love your channel so far. I much prefer to follow smaller channels on the way up, as they still seem to interact with their audience in the comment section, as you clearly still do. I have literally given up on some larger channels, as they see far too much trash in their comments to interact with their actual audience and they seem to demand more than just the ad revenue from viewers in order to acknowledge them behind pay walls. Keep up the good work and I will, as many others I bet, continue to support the channel and hopefully see it grow large enough to where you are able to forget the little people too ;) . J/K. Great work though.
I’m hoping to stay as small as possible. I’d like some growth but I’m pretty happy with where I am currently. Small enough to be ignored by trolls and big enough for the channel supports itself.
My oldest machine uses 1 gbps. 5 gbps is ok for entry level MLOPS and related engineering. You can make a little business work. Unfortunately you only get 5 gbps if you buy the direct connection from ATT.
This was as an amazing video I don't think most people realize the cost and effort to overhaul a home network for 5 gigs. I just started adding 10 gig Mirotik gear a few weeks back and I'm actually running over cat5e. In regards to network cards I would only deal with intel or Qlogic.
I have the gateway setup in IP Passthrough mode and have the 5GbE port plugged into my SFP+ port on the UDM Pro. th-cam.com/video/nM0gFzDU9fo/w-d-xo.html Here is a video that does a better job of laying out the physical stuff, I don't think it mentions IP Passthrough though.
As far as I have noticed, uploading to google drive, when used the google drive application, uploads with greater bandwidth, rather than uploading straight through any browser. I have performed quite a few tests and got to this conclusion that using the Gdrive application gives higher "constant speeds'.
I average about 750Mbps to 940Mbps using either the google drive app or rclone. Found the storage medium matters mechanical drives rendered the lower speeds compared to an SSD or NVME drive. But like Swagato said Browser will give you supet slow speeds.
If you’re paying for higher gigs like 5-10gbps, you need a switchboard that pushes those speeds. You can have up to 10, but your speed will cap at 2 if you only have a switch with just 2.5g ports
AT&T is capping your upload speeds or has a cheap route bottlenecking like Zayo or someone like that which I've had problems with before. Use a VPN and you'll probably hit 200-500Mbps upload speeds to TH-cam.
That or if you in itself will throttle you you're only as fast as your slowest link, a lot of times when I go to people's houses to troubleshoot the slowest link is in fact the VPN
In my country 5Gpbs costs $60/mo, with IPTV its $73/mo. 10Gpbs is $120/mo. I have 1Gbps with IPTV for $30/mo. :) I just don't understand why you guys have pay so much for internet...
@@djole02 in France for iptv+voip landline+internet is 30 euro for 1Gbps , 40 euro for 5gbps , 50 euro for 10Gbps .i don't see point of using speed higher then 1Gbps. also upload is 500Mbs(30€) for other offers its 700mbps.
@@djole02 what country are you in? If it doesn't snow there I might be able to talk my wife into moving there I don't have to justify it more than just fast cheap internet speeds. 🤓🤣
@@ShinyTechThings Serbia :) We do have some snow but not much :D The biggest issue regarding ftth here is low regional coverage. Providers are slowly switching to GPON/10G-PON infrastructure but most places don't offer ftth.
@@kryptopcgamer589 On my PC connected via WIFI 30 feet from router I get 700 down and 500 up. I do have a wifi 6 card and router. When wired I get 970 down and 900 up
I like how you showed a intel x540-t2 in the video. I have a Dell version but can't push 5ge or 2.5gbe due to nic supporting either 1gbe or 10gbe and not the latter speeds.
GPON isn’t the name of that devicd that plugs into the router. GPON is the name of the transport/service (Gigabit Passive Optical Network). The name of the device that plugs into the router is called an SFP. There are 3 that we use, Green (normal GPON circuits), Orange (Alt Optic circuits), and Red (XGSPON = 5G capable).
I share my experience here. I have 2Gbps internet and my computer ethernet LAN port support only 1Gbps. My RAXE500 router support 2.5Gbps , So I bought 2.5Gbps pcie card and now I get 2175Gbps upload/download. I can definitely tell the difference between 1Gbps and 2Gbps browsing the web. I never want to go with anything less then 2Gbps. 2Gbps is a perfect sweet spot for me. It extremely snappy.
Intel x540 is only 1 or 10 GbE, not NbaseT. ATT gave you a fiber handoff on SFP+, that’s the metal rectangle you held up. Your ONT is running Xpon may only be 5 GbE, and that’s why the Aquantia NbaseT card could negotiate to 5. You need an Intel X550 for NbaseT. I have it and it works great with my 5GbE xpon up in the PNW. But my provider only hands off RJ45, an SFP+ handoff for fiber or DAC would be slightly faster and lower heat and power.
100% this...NBASE-T support on Intel NIC's are few and far between. You have to read deep into their user guides for help on this. As Blademan7 mentions above, the X550-T1 will work with NBASE-T with Windows 10 drivers whereas the others do not...
@@blademan7671 Correct. I made the painful mistake of purchasing its predecessor (X540) and found out the hard way. I actually had to open a case with Intel to figure out which NICs were supported. Total PITA!
I saw you data usage in you att account. I thought they where advertising their new speeds as unlimited data? I am currently waiting on fiber to my home. The company I work for is building it right now, launching with speeds at 2.5Gbps then after we get the back haul links stable we are going to 5Gbps as well. Right now I have Comcast 1200 and I need more. I have a large family using 8 to 10 TB a month.
Unfortunately latency tends to scale down with higher bandwidth fiber connections. I'm not sure why this is. Either way, Verizon Fios Gigabit is really cheap for me
Just found out myself that Att is able to offer me the 5Gbps. I guess I have to update the NIC card in my PFsense box to a intel x710-t2l. Wish there was a cheaper option.
I just had the att 5gb service put in 2 days ago but supposedly the hardware at the street is not yet upgraded past 1gb yet. I got them to run fiber direct to the sfp port. Do you know what sfp module make/model they used in your bgw-320?
Hmm that’s odd. I guess my fiber line was thicc enough. I don’t know off the top of my head and I’m in bed but around 2:50 I show it on screen. It’s Nokia something
@@SPXLabs there's no difference in the fiber thickness depends on the wavelength of the signal sending down the line different types of frequencies and support different technologies and speeds, some areas haven't opened up yet for anything over 1,000
time to connected the fiber straight to your own router! yes it's possible (for experimented users only), AT&T stopped the EAP auth for the fiber, no more double nat
I'm SO excited, I currently have AT&T 100/20 VDSL2 and I can get cable as well but the cable co here is WAY overpriced. (1Gig down / 50 Mbps up, 3TB data cap is $130 a month! +$40 if you want unlimited) thankfully AT&T has had contractors out here trenching fiber and deploying their fiber internet to a surprising amount of our town (we're talking Hot Springs, Arkansas lol population ~38-40K). And they just started in our neighborhood recently. Can't wait to switch over! Their CEO has said many times their goal is to offer AT&T Fiber to 30 million residential locations by 2025. Judging from how much of our little town they are covering it seem like they will meet that goal. They have also built a few brand-new cell towers and upgraded more existing ones to 5G (real 5G not "5Ge"). They put a new one ~1,500 feet from my home, when I do speed tests with my Note 20 Ultra tethered to my PC (wired) I get ~300-380 Mbps down ~50 Mbps up.
BTW that is not a "GPON" it's a SFP that converts optical to electrical. Also it's XGSPON technology, different OLT, spliters & SFP that's why they had to swap it out for your 1Gig to 5 Gig conversion.
I’ve got some knowledge on the matter. Highly highly suggest using cat6 or better Ethernets. Finally got my cat8 and made a huge difference on my set up. I do not suggest cat5e if possible
I am missing the most important part, how to connect the BGW320 to the rest of the house at 5GB or 2.5, I have a ATT Gb and a DreamMachine Pro, which only have 1GB ports, so what did you use, can you do a video of the actual connections between the ATT Router and the rest of the house, I would like to keep my DreamMachine DPI and all security features at maximum and not really on a dummy switch if possible. Thanks for the video, it is a good start.
Cool video. I'm curious to know how the wifi speeds would work with a capable mesh system like the Arris routers? Interested in knowing will wifi your speeds remain in the 900s or 800s. I have another provider at 1gig speeds but get a consistent rate range with my mesh system.
The ONT is built into the Gateway so if you upgrade your gateway then they get rid of the ONT. So I don’t have one because ATT upgraded my gateway forever ago
I do have 13 or more family members at one time using the internet constantly. I have a big family lol. I will tell you though that when I had the 300/15 from spectrum it was ok but not great. Once I got fiber it was night and day. 1 gig is overkill for my household and like I said before 13 or more people at the same time using the internet. So it’s more about consistent, reliable speeds and low latency that make the difference.
Man i wish we could get fiber 1G here because i have 400 mbps down but it is still coaxial cable and the bufferbloat is so bad up in the 100ms on the upload and download even with QOS.
The machine that has the Marvell AQtion 10gb nic - are you disabling coalescing in the nic settings (device manager) in order to get good performance? I have 3 of those nics and on my 2 Windows machines I have to disable coalescing or they drop internet connections. Local network connection works fine so no idea why that fixes it. The 3rd nic is in my Unraid box and works fine.
That was a Great Video , i'm currently waiting on AT@T to put Fiber in my Neighborhood and curious on the 5Gig Install since you already had i believe the 1Gig . Did they have to come out and install any new equipment or they just have to send a signal to your router ?
As I mentioned, yes I am an existing 1G customer so all they had to do was give me a new XGPon and I was good to go. If you don’t already have fiber they will have to do all sorts of things.
@@SPXLabs , That's Great !! I'm hoping that they come soon to work on running the line as i have Spectrum Gig and it's no where close in getting that speed as i have called them many times and the technicians tell me that they usually have to replace the amplifiers in order to get the high speeds and also the weather has a lot to do with the amplifier running good .
i just got this speed at my house I love it!! ive only seen about the same speeds you have tho upload is a little slower than what i thought but cant really do anything about it i work for them as a installer haha How are you going to use it with your UDM Pro? it only has a 1 gig rj45 port and a 10gig sfp+ port?
I watched your video 6 days ago! I tried using a SFP to Ethernet adapter but I can’t change the link speed so it just doesn’t work. I’d have to buy a new transceiver that does 1G, 2.5, 5, and 10. But it isn’t worth it. I’m not keeping these speeds for very lkng
How is the buffer bloat? I have gig speed from comcast, normally my ping is 16ms but when im downloading or uploading my ping gets high as 80ms and online gaming becuase almost impossible
I think you need to spoof the Certificate Server or whatever that runs on the gateways within pfsense. Because you have to have the gateway in order to have internet.
On your speed tests comparison with the 1Gb and 5Gb, is that through new modem from AT&T directly or you hooked up to another modem? I am curious. I have my Netgear router, Nighthawk dual band 12 stream router (RAX120) hooked up to the modem from AT&T. I’ve been using 2Gb for almost 2 months and just upgraded to 5Gb today to try it out.
Thank you for sharing this video. I currently have the AT&T 5gbps fiber connection. I am using a Cat 8 cable with a length of around 250ft as I need it to span across multiple rooms. My issue right now is that I am only getting 2.5 Gbps speeds and am never able to get speeds close to the 5gbps. I am testing this on my PC which has the 5gbps Lan port. I am using the ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Formula. Would you be able to guide me as to what could I am doing wrong?
@@SPXLabs I just tested connecting just the cat8 cable directly to the AT&T router and I am getting 4.8 Gbps speeds close to what I should be getting. The issue seems to be with the TPlink switch I was trying to use. I got the TP-link TL-SX105 which does say that it has 5 port 10 gig support but for some reason, it seems to be splitting the speeds across the ports. Will order a better switch and try it.
Is the TH-cam upload still at around 34 Mbps with your 1 or 5 Gbps setup? With my Att 100, yes, 100 Mbps fiber, I get around 80 Mbps youtube up in Jan 2023.
It's not consistent. Today right now I am uploading a video and am getting 41.935 Mbps. It's jumping up and down. Using Firefox and paying for 1Gbps. Chrome is allegedly faster.
AT&T has run fiber on our street. But that is all that has happened. They have not come back to start hooking up houses where people want it. Six months in and still waiting. I was hoping for Google Fiber.. oh well… I do want to use my own WiFi router. Is it easy to switch their WiFi off?
It looks like you aren't running an SFP+ module in your UDM PRO. I'm assuming this was older footage? What module did you end up with? So far all of my SFP+ modules have performance issues on upload speed etc.. failing to properly negotiate with the router. Reading the UBNT forums show similar issues with others.
I haven’t found a module capable of negotiating 5GbE on the UDM Pro, although they supposedly exist. But I have canceled my 5G service so it doesn’t matter anymore
@@SPXLabs ah yeah, I ended up ordering a switch to sit in the middle this evening. I've been telling everyone in the neighborhood that if you can't explain exactly why you need it right now, stick with the 1g.
@@robbiet480 I ended up just throwing a netgear switch in between the router and udm. It negotiated 10gb properly and now everything is copacetic in the network. For some reason I had issues with the Mikrotik SFP. All good now.
Running speed test on two wired devices at the same time that are 5gig capable what should the results be? With a 5gig switch so both have 5g to the device. Will the speed be split
I’m jealous I’ve had ATT 1G for about 3 years now and I’m slowly and patiently waiting to see when my area will be upgraded to support the 2Gig and 5Gig. I’m looking to upgrade to the 2Gig 5 Gig I don’t have equipment for that right now and it’s too much for what I need speed wise and prize wise. Cool video though would be cool to see the set up from the modem to the street pole to see if it’s different fiber cable or it’s the same
@@SPXLabs I’m pretty sure the answer is no but out of curiosity do you have an ONT? or is it just connected straight to the new Modem/Router combo that ATT provides? As well you think downgrading to 2Gig instead of 1 Gig?
I’m pretty sure I don’t have an ONT because it’s built into the gateway but there is a fiber to fiber box on the inside of my house. Join discord and you can see the video for it discord.gg/Bx2tpkmq6W
@@SPXLabs I saw and it's so interesting that the only thing that the faster multi-gig speed provides is faster downloading on those game launchers, did you notice any difference with epic games launcher
I don't think that's a bandwidth problem, that's probably a wifi interference issue. The BGW320 does a great job. However, like most wifi devices they are prone to suckage because of interference. I hate wifi so much.
I live in Canada and can get 5gbps internet packages but got the 2.5gb up and down instead because my laptop ethernet speed is only capable of 2.5gbps which is exactly what I get if I plug it into the fiber terminal, but my AX5400 6E router is only letting me get 800mbps via ethernet and wifi, is this normal?
they offer 1, 2 and 5gb at my apartment. im on the 1gb and my wifi never ever tops out over 700 or so. if I get the 2 or the 5 what will my speeds be like
Latency is heavily dependent on many external factors, the biggest one being distance. While hardware does have a role in increasing latency, generally it’s external sources that increase latency. Now if on WiFi your latency will always be bad but can be better with newer better equipment.
@@SPXLabs Thank you for the info. So with that being said... Since the BGW320 is fiber to the gateway and the conversion from fiber to copper occurs at the gateway. Did you experience a drop in latency when upgrading to BGW320? The BGW210 has more hops... Fiber to ONT, conversion at ONT to copper, copper from ONT to Gateway, and then copper from gateway to pc.
5Gbps ethernet is a newer standard than 10Gbps ethernet so the older? intel cards probably just dont know how to speak it. intel also took their time adding support for it
Honestly for working from home, 5gbps is overkill. I work from home and 1gbps (heck anything over 20mbps is good for most internet applications). I have 1gbps personally. Lower latency like you said under 10ms is ideal.
Yep I'm sticking to my 1GB fiber for probably the rest of my life... paying $70 a month. I think 5GB speeds are more for huge houses like Mansions that have smart devices in every corner...and like 20 4K tvs...and if you are uploading 4K videos all day...
@@danram247 I agree man. I have 200Mbps fiber, and its way more than sufficient for most of my home tasks. I pay INR 1200 ($14.5) a month for that and while 500 would certainly help, I still feel anything above a gigabit is overkill until maybe 2035 to 2040.
What if you put 10 Gbit SFP+ NIC in your PC and then ONU SFP in it ? Will it work ? Also 5 gig speed is decent on my opinion... I have couple of 10 Gbps lines at my home and happens sometimes to get over 300 MB/s when downloading a game from Epic, Origin, Batlenet but not Steam... I dunno why... BTW we did LAN party at my home and couple of us managed to download same game with more than 200 MB/s at the same time ^^ So you never know when you will need fast internet ;)
@@SPXLabs UDM-Pro (but not SE) permits synchronization of SFP+ only on 1Gb or 10Gb. If you want to sync it on 2.5 or 5Gb, you need a Media Converter that can take the 5Gb in one end and bridge it to another that syncs on 10Gb... for instance, I'm using the CRS305-1G-4S+IN and connecting the rj45 to SPF+ to one port into the CRS, then in another port I'm connecting a DAC to the UDM... (that's what I've done to get the 2.5Gb Unfortunately, this trick does not assist 5GB very much... Perhaps it has something to do with their use of PPPoE, which could be causing issues with speed or sync, but I am still investigating.
When i connect directly to the UDM im having issues with packet drop ... my guess is due to the fact it having hard time to sync the SFP+ to he correct speed ... so it get disconnected from time to time
@@SPXLabs Why so long? Different matter if one is willing to provide that much Internet and not a connection to the local hub, but the 400Gbps in data centers is reality today and it is only "the insane price of the port" what is holding it back from going to the random location into the woods. Also, as with your test is showing at 5Gbps already one is likely not filling that tube with anything meaningful anyway, so currently there is no need to go much more as well.
Sarcasm. It took about 30 years just to get here to 5Gbps. So I am poking fun at the way the US rolls out internet. But yeah 5G is absolutely overkill today at the time of filming.
Just a note. I signed up for the 2 Gig speed from AT&T and initially I was only seeing 1 gig speeds, even though the tech from AT&T showed me that the router was putting out 2.5 gigs. Turns out my OWC Thunderbolt 4 dock will only put out 1 gig max on that ethernet port. Had to purchase a Cable Matters USB to 2.5 Ethernet adapter to plug directly into the M1 Max Macbook Pro to see the 2 gig speeds. So if you have a Macbook Pro, you'll need an Ethernet adapter capable of 2 Gig and higher to see those speeds.
My caldigit adapter can do 5G thankfully. Didn’t have issues there.
curious to know what you're doing with speeds that high to one device? gaming? streaming? something else?
I have a few 10G capable systems. But that’s all internal. Otherwise I am back on 1G because 5G is overkill and wasted. I only got 5G for video purposes
Caldigit ts4 dock supports 2.5 Gbit
Same exact thing happens to me today. It showed I was only getting 1 gig speed when we did the test. But on his side showed 2.5. It connected directly into my pc with a very expensive cat8 Ethernet and I still cannot achieve 2.5???? Can someone help please. Paying for something I’m not getting.
Great video! Btw I love the STI on your wall!
Wow! My second super chat ever. Thank YOU! Love my subi!
@ I love mine too!
@johnnyfegan7568 what year did you get?
I’ve got the last model STI in 2016. What about you?
iPerf uses TCP by default, try running your tests with UDP and your speeds will probably increase significantly. There's a ton of overhead with TCP and you might be hitting packet and processing limits. Also increase your packet size if you can. I haven't used iPerf a ton but larger packets give you more bandwidth due to the reduced overhead.
The overhead remains the same, you just have increased payload. Think of it as comparing the payload as an envelope vs a box while the shipping label remains the same.
Those intel nics are from the server segment. They only do 10G/1G/100Mbit. They predate multigig ethernet by a few years. The 540 was launched in 2012 and the 520 in 2010. Still good cards but you need 10G ports on your switch to run them at full speed.
One note on the “gamer lag” is that the 2gig and 5gig tiers are on completely separate physical fiber switches in your neighborhood. There *may* be some benefit to be in the latest gen of fiber switches although personally my latency is identical after switching to the 5gig service.
That’s interesting.
Not true at all, 2 gig and 5 gig are both on the XGPON splitters and running on the same backbone infrastructure
@@iMortalMisfit Separate from the older 1gig service.
@@Joseph3114 no, some people on xpon splitter only running 1000. And maybe even 300/500
X gpon can do up to 5g. Regular gpon up to 1000
It's amazing that home connections can be faster than what is provided by large content delivery services.
It’s a blessing and a curse
thank google fiber. att and charter would still be selling coax cables if it werent for them. charter still only sells coax. no fiber.
Having 5 gigabit internet in America right now is just future proofing yourself; all of the critical services that gamers and TH-camrs utilize will still be limited. Keep in mind that the throughput of the server providing the data will always limit your internet connection. 🙂
So services like steam, google, aws have plenty of throughput.
@@ImzCynic they do, but they limit each connection. They are not going to allow one host to access the full networks bandwidth -.-
@@zeddy893 Enterprise servers and NICS handle Tb/s of throughput. Yeah, you're limited, but not to the point of less than 10Gb. I have ATT new 5gb fiber. On Steam and GDrive I get speeds of 3.8-5 gigs all the time.
@@ImzCynic g-drive through the UI? Or using another program like rclone to create multiple connections to the apis ? 🤔
@@zeddy893 Yeah, rclone on my home server. Filestream (that google offers) also works.
Just a note, the module is called an "SFP", not a "GPON". GPON is the fibre type, SFP is the interface type (like RJ-45 for copper.)
Well it’s actually labeled XGPON on the module. I was just repeating what the tech said
X is for 10. An XFP is a 10 gb Small Form Factor Pluggable while the SFP is Small Form Factor Pluggable. Like Nathaniel mentioned GPON the fiber technology type, Gigabit Passive Optical Networking.
Wow!
My first online connection was 2400 bits per second dialup ... a few years ago ;-)
A few years ago... sure buddy with your pentium 1 computer
I’ve been waiting for your response!! Thanks for the update!!!!!!
I’ve been waiting, for a girl like you.
@@SPXLabs I’m literally laughing my ass off!
Yay!
GPON is technically up to 2,5Gbps capable, but usually only 1Gbps, so it need to be more likely a XGPON (a 10Gbps capable PON variant) for you to get 5Gbps out of it.
At 2:52 you see the Nokia 3fe46901ac that ATT provided, specs for it say it's an XGS-PON upto 9.95 Gbps capable
Oh neat. I was just repeating what the tech said. I appreciate the clarification
GPON is the original FTTH technology. XGS-PON is the next generation of gpon. Just like docsis and DSL. Something will always replace its predecessor.
i skimmed the video looks like it's geared towards laymans people. they called the SPF+ adapter a GPON and i'm sure it is since all sorts of stuff can fit in SPF+ and i didn't see much discussion about using your own multi-gig or 10Gbps router or bridge mode because not everyone wants the ISP proved weak sauce router.
also noted SPX was just reiterating what they were tald by the tech /ATT not sure if SPX has that level of networking experience
AGAIN I SKIMMED THE VIDEO
EDIT: not all 10Gbps equipment is multigig capable and have speeds between 1gbps and 10gbps, 5 gbps came out AFTER 10Gbps so those old ass NICs don't have 5Gbps OR weren't designed for as they are look like the enterpise server models but i think it's that they look like the older enterprise models based o t he size and heatsink deisgns
I’m not a network person. You covered it perfectly
This just foreshadows the huge confusion coming to consumers as we move beyond the 1 GbE standard in homes. Yes, motherboards are starting to come with 2.5 GbE ports as multi-Gig becomes more prevalent, but consumers in general are clueless about the rest of the devices between the ISP modem and their end computers (switches, using the right port on the ISP router, etc.). I expect for years to hear about people paying for greater than 1 gigabit internet service but only “discovering” months or years later that they were passing it through a 1 gigabit bottleneck on the way to their end device and never realized it until later. I can imagine the tech support headaches and calls this will produce too: “I’m paying for 2.5Gbps and I only get 1Gbps. You’re ripping me off!” Eye roll.
Yeah it’s going to be a big problem for sure. Especially since ISPs have successfully got people to associate bandwidth with speed. It’s going to be insane for call centers
@@SPXLabs IMHO 2.5 gig is DoA, the 10 gig ports for RJ45 TX (twisted pair) are only a few $ more expensive, and as said here, the support costs are eating up the savings on 2.5 hardware ... besides the data traffic increases 20% or so every year, so the 2.5 will be too slow 'soon-ish'
Reminds me of someone who was asking why they got a new laptop and was seeing 600Mbps on Wi-Fi, but they were sure they had a 100Mbps tier cuz that was all the wired desktop could get. Turned out they were using powerline adapters. And they had paid for Gigabit for God knows how long by that point lol
Yeah definitely for the "average" consumer. Heck on their 5 Gbps plan, I guess only one device can really take advantage of the full speed since only one of the ports on the BGW-320 gateway is 5 Gbps. They do label it on the device though.
@sean8102 add a 5gig or higher switch on that port and you're sharing bandwidth fine
I've recently switched from 1 gig to 5 gig. The first thing I've noticed is the increased speed on all my devices. I have a smart home with four people in the house . I actually have over 48 devices connected to my AT&T router at one time. It's true that I don't see 5 gig speeds on my devices. I do however notice that my ring camera videos come up instantly. My download speeds are faster on all my devices. I think the moral of the story for those with many connected devices is that you'll notice the increased bandwidth will speed up all your devices as a whole especially if you have as many connected devices as I have.
Where u at?
I just need this speed in my location in LA.
This was a comment I was looking for to make my decision. I’m in a similar situation, I will have a lot of devices connected to the internet.
Comment I was looking for. Damn comcast would throttle my internet and Wi-Fi on my phone is slow, download speeds on my pc is slow, using Netflix, Hulu I would get the loading ring. I just said to hell with this I’m getting att fiber 5gig. Just waiting for it to get installed and will see how it compares over my current internet service.
I work remotely and am a Learning Management System Administrator. I upload SCORM courses to the LMS on a regular basis and HATE to WAIT! I cannot wait to upgrade! :)
I hope they support and accept 5Gb uploads!!
I've seen tons of people have issues with the UDM Pro hitting the 4.7Gbps.For better results try using a pfSense build for the WAN connection and transitioning over to your UniFi switch. I've had good results with that.
With most of the features turned off, the UDM Pro will hit 5Gbps but what's the point of that lol. I'm just too lazy for pfsense right now. I see it recommended all the time but idk. I'd under-utilize it's capabilities I suppose. We will see though. All you pfSense lovers are wearing me down lol, I may cave soon.
One thing you have to watch out for is that just because it's a 10Gbe card doesn't mean it can talk to a 5Gbe device at 5Gbe speeds.
Just like SFP transceivers that only do 10Gb
Nice video, I went for 5Gbps as well, but bought a MikroTik CCR2116. It's overkill, the CPU hits 18% at 4.5Gbps, pretty much line rate. That's with MikroTik's fastpath/fast tracking off. Total beast of a router, CCR2004 likely would've been sufficient.
Can you send me a link for that router 🥺
Cable internet like Comcast is quickly becoming the new DSL. Not only it’s latency is crap but it’s not asymmetric.. and caps
Truth
Hey, most of ISPs will cap your speed and when they will detect you are using "speed tests" they will unleash your internet speeds. About Iperf: I have seen already, that some ISPs will also cap this type of test, so when I am testing my setups, I usually change Iperf port to something different and repeat the test using also "common" port, like 21/80/443/8080. Cheers!
I’ll try that next time
You live in Nashville and I work for the company that provides your internet. Maybe we can trade info? Thanks for the video!
I live in Huntsville, relatively close. www.spxlabs.com/contact
So ATT is just redistributing Inet from another isp or level3 provider? I knew they out sources the techs/setup
@@cdoublejj We are not outsourced! We do not hire contractors. You misunderstood what SPX labs was saying..
@@cliffx7 actually i pulled that out of my arse end based on what i'm hearing from insiders at other big telecom companies LIKE AB&B or Derizon who do outsource
In Spain we have 10Gbps fiber. Only in some cities.
The networks are not prepared for such speed, the maximum you can take advantage of is 2Gbps.
Seems to be the same here
the main reason why people should be signing up for faster speeds is so that this speed will become the norm across America. Many countries have way faster internet.
Really? Like who?
@@jackieclan815 What do you mean? What other Countries, or who should sign up for faster internet?
@@TheRubernck21 other countries with faster internet and mbps
@@jackieclan815 Singapore, Hong Kong, Chile, UAE, China and Thailand rank higher than the US.
@@TheRubernck21 wow
Love your channel so far. I much prefer to follow smaller channels on the way up, as they still seem to interact with their audience in the comment section, as you clearly still do. I have literally given up on some larger channels, as they see far too much trash in their comments to interact with their actual audience and they seem to demand more than just the ad revenue from viewers in order to acknowledge them behind pay walls. Keep up the good work and I will, as many others I bet, continue to support the channel and hopefully see it grow large enough to where you are able to forget the little people too ;) . J/K. Great work though.
I’m hoping to stay as small as possible. I’d like some growth but I’m pretty happy with where I am currently. Small enough to be ignored by trolls and big enough for the channel supports itself.
My oldest machine uses 1 gbps. 5 gbps is ok for entry level MLOPS and related engineering.
You can make a little business work. Unfortunately you only get 5 gbps if you buy the direct connection from ATT.
This was as an amazing video I don't think most people realize the cost and effort to overhaul a home network for 5 gigs. I just started adding 10 gig Mirotik gear a few weeks back and I'm actually running over cat5e. In regards to network cards I would only deal with intel or Qlogic.
You know that’s a good point. I wish I would have given an example of the cost to support it. Intel and Qlogic are my go to as well!
Did you have to switch out your 5e or did it still provide for a decent 5gig experience even though it's rated for 1gbit?
I don’t have cat5. My house is wired with cat6a
You need Cat6 for anything over 1GB
@@fogstorm5531 this is beyond false
As the gateway don't support bridging, How do you have it setup and wired to your udm pro?
I have the gateway setup in IP Passthrough mode and have the 5GbE port plugged into my SFP+ port on the UDM Pro. th-cam.com/video/nM0gFzDU9fo/w-d-xo.html Here is a video that does a better job of laying out the physical stuff, I don't think it mentions IP Passthrough though.
As far as I have noticed, uploading to google drive, when used the google drive application, uploads with greater bandwidth, rather than uploading straight through any browser. I have performed quite a few tests and got to this conclusion that using the Gdrive application gives higher "constant speeds'.
That is interesting thanks for bringing that up. I’ll check it out
I average about 750Mbps to 940Mbps using either the google drive app or rclone. Found the storage medium matters mechanical drives rendered the lower speeds compared to an SSD or NVME drive. But like Swagato said Browser will give you supet slow speeds.
yeah i just got the 2000mbps plan with ATT and when measured from box to hom it's 2500 mbps. Iphone 12 wifi picking up 600 is download 800 ish upload
I want this because I like this. Ill slowly upgrade hardware as time goes on. Patience is a virtue.
If you’re paying for higher gigs like 5-10gbps, you need a switchboard that pushes those speeds. You can have up to 10, but your speed will cap at 2 if you only have a switch with just 2.5g ports
woah had no idea there is home service floating around over 1, fun info thanks!
Just rolled out this week I believe
Have 1.2 with xfinity though usually 1.4 and sadly still 40mb upload.
Yah the problem with it though is you would be lucky if it's actually available "in your area"
But they rolled out the new packages to millions of homes across America….
AT&T is capping your upload speeds or has a cheap route bottlenecking like Zayo or someone like that which I've had problems with before. Use a VPN and you'll probably hit 200-500Mbps upload speeds to TH-cam.
That or if you in itself will throttle you you're only as fast as your slowest link, a lot of times when I go to people's houses to troubleshoot the slowest link is in fact the VPN
Dude 5Gbps for $180/mo of it wasn't so cold there I'd move for the internet!🤓😎
In my country 5Gpbs costs $60/mo, with IPTV its $73/mo. 10Gpbs is $120/mo. I have 1Gbps with IPTV for $30/mo. :) I just don't understand why you guys have pay so much for internet...
@@djole02 in France for iptv+voip landline+internet is 30 euro for 1Gbps , 40 euro for 5gbps , 50 euro for 10Gbps .i don't see point of using speed higher then 1Gbps. also upload is 500Mbs(30€) for other offers its 700mbps.
@@shivsankermondal Which provider?
@@djole02 what country are you in? If it doesn't snow there I might be able to talk my wife into moving there I don't have to justify it more than just fast cheap internet speeds. 🤓🤣
@@ShinyTechThings Serbia :) We do have some snow but not much :D The biggest issue regarding ftth here is low regional coverage. Providers are slowly switching to GPON/10G-PON infrastructure but most places don't offer ftth.
I just got the 1 gig installed Friday and setup my own wifi router and it's amazing
The BGW 320 is pretty legit
How are your uploads?
@@kryptopcgamer589 On my PC connected via WIFI 30 feet from router I get 700 down and 500 up. I do have a wifi 6 card and router. When wired I get 970 down and 900 up
What I have found is there isn’t enough companies that support over 1GB connection. Except torrent sites. I have 2GB connection thru google.
I like how you showed a intel x540-t2 in the video. I have a Dell version but can't push 5ge or 2.5gbe due to nic supporting either 1gbe or 10gbe and not the latter speeds.
It’s the same for me too, big sad. But thankfully I had something that could
GPON isn’t the name of that devicd that plugs into the router. GPON is the name of the transport/service (Gigabit Passive Optical Network). The name of the device that plugs into the router is called an SFP. There are 3 that we use, Green (normal GPON circuits), Orange (Alt Optic circuits), and Red (XGSPON = 5G capable).
Got the 2GB plan for my new house. Fiber has come a long way
Hell yeah. That’s a lot of bandwidth. You’re going to love it
It’s fun going through comments and seeing what people get right and wrong…
Top picks?
I share my experience here. I have 2Gbps internet and my computer ethernet LAN port support only 1Gbps. My RAXE500 router support 2.5Gbps , So I bought 2.5Gbps pcie card and now I get 2175Gbps upload/download. I can definitely tell the difference between 1Gbps and 2Gbps browsing the web. I never want to go with anything less then 2Gbps. 2Gbps is a perfect sweet spot for me. It extremely snappy.
Intel x540 is only 1 or 10 GbE, not NbaseT. ATT gave you a fiber handoff on SFP+, that’s the metal rectangle you held up. Your ONT is running Xpon may only be 5 GbE, and that’s why the Aquantia NbaseT card could negotiate to 5. You need an Intel X550 for NbaseT. I have it and it works great with my 5GbE xpon up in the PNW. But my provider only hands off RJ45, an SFP+ handoff for fiber or DAC would be slightly faster and lower heat and power.
100% this...NBASE-T support on Intel NIC's are few and far between. You have to read deep into their user guides for help on this. As Blademan7 mentions above, the X550-T1 will work with NBASE-T with Windows 10 drivers whereas the others do not...
@@Moonraker11 I run an X550-T2 on FW. Works great. Supported in all OS. 10GbE on WAN and 2.5GbE on LAN until I upgraded.
Thanks guys. I’m going to see if I can pick one up
@@blademan7671 Correct. I made the painful mistake of purchasing its predecessor (X540) and found out the hard way. I actually had to open a case with Intel to figure out which NICs were supported. Total PITA!
Killer. I need to get it all hooked up and working with my switch
9:30 can you please use the desktop app? I'm a bit curious how that'll be going.
I just want AT&T to install fiber for my house. I feel like one of the few in my city that can't get it. So frustrating.
It's been nice. Hopefully fiber comes to you in the near future.
I've been waiting for years for them to offer it here...theyve literally had it across the street from my neighborhood for years..
Have you tried offering a big bag of money for service?
I saw you data usage in you att account. I thought they where advertising their new speeds as unlimited data?
I am currently waiting on fiber to my home. The company I work for is building it right now, launching with speeds at 2.5Gbps then after we get the back haul links stable we are going to 5Gbps as well. Right now I have Comcast 1200 and I need more. I have a large family using 8 to 10 TB a month.
It does have unlimited data
Unfortunately latency tends to scale down with higher bandwidth fiber connections. I'm not sure why this is. Either way, Verizon Fios Gigabit is really cheap for me
Just found out myself that Att is able to offer me the 5Gbps. I guess I have to update the NIC card in my PFsense box to a intel x710-t2l. Wish there was a cheaper option.
The cheaper option is to not upgrade lol
@@SPXLabs lol. Very True
I just had the att 5gb service put in 2 days ago but supposedly the hardware at the street is not yet upgraded past 1gb yet. I got them to run fiber direct to the sfp port. Do you know what sfp module make/model they used in your bgw-320?
Hmm that’s odd. I guess my fiber line was thicc enough.
I don’t know off the top of my head and I’m in bed but around 2:50 I show it on screen. It’s Nokia something
@@SPXLabs there's no difference in the fiber thickness depends on the wavelength of the signal sending down the line different types of frequencies and support different technologies and speeds, some areas haven't opened up yet for anything over 1,000
Im only kidding around about my thicc fiber line
time to connected the fiber straight to your own router! yes it's possible (for experimented users only), AT&T stopped the EAP auth for the fiber, no more double nat
2:51 Actually, that's a XpoN. GpoN is a Green colored module.
It’s labeled XGPON. But anyway, as I’ve mentioned in the video and in the comments I was repeating what the tech said. Cheers
I'm SO excited, I currently have AT&T 100/20 VDSL2 and I can get cable as well but the cable co here is WAY overpriced. (1Gig down / 50 Mbps up, 3TB data cap is $130 a month! +$40 if you want unlimited) thankfully AT&T has had contractors out here trenching fiber and deploying their fiber internet to a surprising amount of our town (we're talking Hot Springs, Arkansas lol population ~38-40K). And they just started in our neighborhood recently. Can't wait to switch over! Their CEO has said many times their goal is to offer AT&T Fiber to 30 million residential locations by 2025. Judging from how much of our little town they are covering it seem like they will meet that goal. They have also built a few brand-new cell towers and upgraded more existing ones to 5G (real 5G not "5Ge"). They put a new one ~1,500 feet from my home, when I do speed tests with my Note 20 Ultra tethered to my PC (wired) I get ~300-380 Mbps down ~50 Mbps up.
Get everyone to switch to ATT, then once you corner the market and shutdown all the competitors, increase prices!
BTW that is not a "GPON" it's a SFP that converts optical to electrical. Also it's XGSPON technology, different OLT, spliters & SFP that's why they had to swap it out for your 1Gig to 5 Gig conversion.
Yeah, I was just repeating what the tech said.
I’ve got some knowledge on the matter. Highly highly suggest using cat6 or better Ethernets. Finally got my cat8 and made a huge difference on my set up. I do not suggest cat5e if possible
I am missing the most important part, how to connect the BGW320 to the rest of the house at 5GB or 2.5, I have a ATT Gb and a DreamMachine Pro, which only have 1GB ports, so what did you use, can you do a video of the actual connections between the ATT Router and the rest of the house, I would like to keep my DreamMachine DPI and all security features at maximum and not really on a dummy switch if possible. Thanks for the video, it is a good start.
Like this? th-cam.com/video/nM0gFzDU9fo/w-d-xo.html well kind of. I have a 10G switch from Ubiquiti that connects to all my 10G capable clients.
Cool video. I'm curious to know how the wifi speeds would work with a capable mesh system like the Arris routers? Interested in knowing will wifi your speeds remain in the 900s or 800s. I have another provider at 1gig speeds but get a consistent rate range with my mesh system.
They would work at the speed of the wifi system. So if the setup is 1Gbps, then clients would only get up to 1Gbps on a single stream.
So are you saying they get rid of the ONT when you upgrade to 5Gbps?
The ONT is built into the Gateway so if you upgrade your gateway then they get rid of the ONT. So I don’t have one because ATT upgraded my gateway forever ago
Great video dude!
I do have 13 or more family members at one time using the internet constantly. I have a big family lol. I will tell you though that when I had the 300/15 from spectrum it was ok but not great. Once I got fiber it was night and day. 1 gig is overkill for my household and like I said before 13 or more people at the same time using the internet. So it’s more about consistent, reliable speeds and low latency that make the difference.
Yes exactly. I would be fun experiment for everyone in your house to try and stream 4k video at the same time.
Man i wish we could get fiber 1G here because i have 400 mbps down but it is still coaxial cable and the bufferbloat is so bad up in the 100ms on the upload and download even with QOS.
The machine that has the Marvell AQtion 10gb nic - are you disabling coalescing in the nic settings (device manager) in order to get good performance? I have 3 of those nics and on my 2 Windows machines I have to disable coalescing or they drop internet connections. Local network connection works fine so no idea why that fixes it. The 3rd nic is in my Unraid box and works fine.
No I have not. The AQtion NIC works perfectly fine as far as I can tell. I literally just put it in my gaming computer and it worked.
for domestic use no family needs more than 50mbps unless you are 11 family members
That was a Great Video , i'm currently waiting on AT@T to put Fiber in my Neighborhood and curious on the 5Gig Install since you already had i believe the 1Gig . Did they have to come out and install any new equipment or they just have to send a signal to your router ?
As I mentioned, yes I am an existing 1G customer so all they had to do was give me a new XGPon and I was good to go.
If you don’t already have fiber they will have to do all sorts of things.
@@SPXLabs , That's Great !! I'm hoping that they come soon to work on running the line as i have Spectrum Gig and it's no where close in getting that speed as i have called them many times and the technicians tell me that they usually have to replace the amplifiers in order to get the high speeds and also the weather has a lot to do with the amplifier running good .
i just got this speed at my house I love it!! ive only seen about the same speeds you have tho upload is a little slower than what i thought but cant really do anything about it i work for them as a installer haha How are you going to use it with your UDM Pro? it only has a 1 gig rj45 port and a 10gig sfp+ port?
I watched your video 6 days ago! I tried using a SFP to Ethernet adapter but I can’t change the link speed so it just doesn’t work. I’d have to buy a new transceiver that does 1G, 2.5, 5, and 10. But it isn’t worth it. I’m not keeping these speeds for very lkng
How is the buffer bloat? I have gig speed from comcast, normally my ping is 16ms but when im downloading or uploading my ping gets high as 80ms and online gaming becuase almost impossible
i always dreamed of having 5gbps fiber and not worry about constant buffer on watching streams
I’m really curious to know how good fiber is for constant uploading/ live streaming? Any idea? Thanks
Its good. Most fiber internet providers give you a symmetrical connection.
Here, in Italy, the 5 gigabit is priced between 15 and 24€
If you run a speed test on the BGW320 itself, you will see over-provisioned speeds of around 5.4 Gbps...
I wonder if you plug this directly into a pfsense unit and will it work right away? maybe via plugin you can run a speed test directly through pfsense
I think you need to spoof the Certificate Server or whatever that runs on the gateways within pfsense. Because you have to have the gateway in order to have internet.
@@SPXLabs hard to say without trying. I have seen some just plug the SFP unit into the pfsense and just work more or less.
ATT is the problem in this case. I don’t think it’s a universal issue across ISPs
On your speed tests comparison with the 1Gb and 5Gb, is that through new modem from AT&T directly or you hooked up to another modem? I am curious. I have my Netgear router, Nighthawk dual band 12 stream router (RAX120) hooked up to the modem from AT&T. I’ve been using 2Gb for almost 2 months and just upgraded to 5Gb today to try it out.
All 5G tests shown are directly through the ATT gateway. I have also used my own stuff behind the gateway and it works fine
I have a rax500 & im really curious if I can see anything over 1Gbps from wifi if I upgrade to the 2 gig or 5 gig plan
Thank you for sharing this video. I currently have the AT&T 5gbps fiber connection. I am using a Cat 8 cable with a length of around 250ft as I need it to span across multiple rooms. My issue right now is that I am only getting 2.5 Gbps speeds and am never able to get speeds close to the 5gbps. I am testing this on my PC which has the 5gbps Lan port. I am using the ASUS ROG X570 Crosshair VIII Formula. Would you be able to guide me as to what could I am doing wrong?
You probably got scammed on the cat8 cable. Switch to cat6a and try again. Also buy cable from a reputable brand.
@@SPXLabs Could you recommend brands that are good?
Any of these in no particular order.
TrueCable - amzn.to/3CFXg4e
Monoprice - amzn.to/3ke3qlm
Fiberstore - bit.ly/3eDnbAq
@@SPXLabs Thank you. Will try these out.
@@SPXLabs I just tested connecting just the cat8 cable directly to the AT&T router and I am getting 4.8 Gbps speeds close to what I should be getting. The issue seems to be with the TPlink switch I was trying to use. I got the TP-link TL-SX105 which does say that it has 5 port 10 gig support but for some reason, it seems to be splitting the speeds across the ports. Will order a better switch and try it.
Forgot to ask. Where did you get that shirt?
Is the TH-cam upload still at around 34 Mbps with your 1 or 5 Gbps setup? With my Att 100, yes, 100 Mbps fiber, I get around 80 Mbps youtube up in Jan 2023.
It's not consistent. Today right now I am uploading a video and am getting 41.935 Mbps. It's jumping up and down. Using Firefox and paying for 1Gbps. Chrome is allegedly faster.
Is there such thing as a Eb Speed Connection?
The reason you could not get over 1Gbps over WIFI 6 is you need 160MHz DFS channels and I dont think the BGW320 supports that.
I think it stops at 80Mhz
Gonna upgrade mine in the next few months.
AT&T has run fiber on our street. But that is all that has happened. They have not come back to start hooking up houses where people want it. Six months in and still waiting. I was hoping for Google Fiber.. oh well…
I do want to use my own WiFi router. Is it easy to switch their WiFi off?
Yes
It looks like you aren't running an SFP+ module in your UDM PRO. I'm assuming this was older footage? What module did you end up with? So far all of my SFP+ modules have performance issues on upload speed etc.. failing to properly negotiate with the router. Reading the UBNT forums show similar issues with others.
I haven’t found a module capable of negotiating 5GbE on the UDM Pro, although they supposedly exist. But I have canceled my 5G service so it doesn’t matter anymore
@@SPXLabs ah yeah, I ended up ordering a switch to sit in the middle this evening. I've been telling everyone in the neighborhood that if you can't explain exactly why you need it right now, stick with the 1g.
Reddit says the MikroTik S+RJ10 transceiver works perfect for 1/2.5/5/10gb speeds on the UDM Pro
@@robbiet480 I ended up just throwing a netgear switch in between the router and udm. It negotiated 10gb properly and now everything is copacetic in the network. For some reason I had issues with the Mikrotik SFP. All good now.
Running speed test on two wired devices at the same time that are 5gig capable what should the results be? With a 5gig switch so both have 5g to the device. Will the speed be split
It depends but neither computer will hit 5Gbps at the same time. Things like QoS might be happening. But generally internet speeds a single stream.
I’m jealous I’ve had ATT 1G for about 3 years now and I’m slowly and patiently waiting to see when my area will be upgraded to support the 2Gig and 5Gig. I’m looking to upgrade to the 2Gig 5 Gig I don’t have equipment for that right now and it’s too much for what I need speed wise and prize wise. Cool video though would be cool to see the set up from the modem to the street pole to see if it’s different fiber cable or it’s the same
It’s the same fiber. They didn’t upgrade jack diddly that’s why I didn’t mention it
@@SPXLabs I’m pretty sure the answer is no but out of curiosity do you have an ONT? or is it just connected straight to the new Modem/Router combo that ATT provides? As well you think downgrading to 2Gig instead of 1 Gig?
I’m pretty sure I don’t have an ONT because it’s built into the gateway but there is a fiber to fiber box on the inside of my house. Join discord and you can see the video for it
discord.gg/Bx2tpkmq6W
@@SPXLabs just joined thanks!!
Make a video about your computer set up like what you have and make a test with it hard-lined
It’s in this video
@@SPXLabs I saw and it's so interesting that the only thing that the faster multi-gig speed provides is faster downloading on those game launchers, did you notice any difference with epic games launcher
I definitely consume 4k HDR on all my devices all the time and use my series x on wifi. The one gig seems to struggle
I don't think that's a bandwidth problem, that's probably a wifi interference issue. The BGW320 does a great job. However, like most wifi devices they are prone to suckage because of interference. I hate wifi so much.
I live in Canada and can get 5gbps internet packages but got the 2.5gb up and down instead because my laptop ethernet speed is only capable of 2.5gbps which is exactly what I get if I plug it into the fiber terminal, but my AX5400 6E router is only letting me get 800mbps via ethernet and wifi, is this normal?
Ethernet no. WiFi maybe.
I’ve got 10G servers in Los Angeles and Miami. Let me know if you’d like to test.
Where can I get that router if I were to look for it? And what's the exact name of it?
You can’t buy, well you can but shouldn’t. Call ATT and ask for it.
they offer 1, 2 and 5gb at my apartment. im on the 1gb and my wifi never ever tops out over 700 or so. if I get the 2 or the 5 what will my speeds be like
They will not change
Very informative video!
ya those old intel nics wont do 2.5 or 5g only 1g or 10gb. I swapped mine out with a trendnet nic that does 1,2.5,5,10gb for $100.
Nice! I’m glad my AQtion nic worked out. Normally I only use the Intel NICs for the servers so I guess ultimately it wouldn’t have mattered
@@SPXLabs ya I use intel x520’s in the servers to my switch then I have my trendnet nic out to my personal pc
Are you me?
Those Intel NICs are only 1Gb and 10Gb. No 2.5Gb and 5Gb.
5gbps internet using cat 6e is better for server usage kind of stuff like hosting an in house game server.
I can't wait until we get 2.5g and 5gig in my area with games being so much larger now I can use it but I think the 2.5gig would be fine for me
Yeah anything more than that seems pretty insane right now. One day when games are 500GB I guess 5G will make more sense
@@SPXLabs there’s literally games over 1T 😂
Never heard of one. Are they any good?
@@SPXLabs ohh yeah definitely
So for latency is the bgw320 better for lower latency vs the bgw210?
Latency is heavily dependent on many external factors, the biggest one being distance. While hardware does have a role in increasing latency, generally it’s external sources that increase latency. Now if on WiFi your latency will always be bad but can be better with newer better equipment.
@@SPXLabs Thank you for the info. So with that being said... Since the BGW320 is fiber to the gateway and the conversion from fiber to copper occurs at the gateway. Did you experience a drop in latency when upgrading to BGW320? The BGW210 has more hops... Fiber to ONT, conversion at ONT to copper, copper from ONT to Gateway, and then copper from gateway to pc.
I didn’t notice any change in latency. But I wasn’t really looking either. So I guess, it was never bad enough that I had to look.
Does anyone know if this new "gateway" supports IP passthru? It's my understanding only one, discontinued, ATT Gateway supports it.
The BGW 320 supports IP Passthrough
Thanks for doing this.
5Gbps ethernet is a newer standard than 10Gbps ethernet so the older? intel cards probably just dont know how to speak it. intel also took their time adding support for it
In a weird kind of way that makes since.
Honestly for working from home, 5gbps is overkill. I work from home and 1gbps (heck anything over 20mbps is good for most internet applications). I have 1gbps personally. Lower latency like you said under 10ms is ideal.
Yup pretty much
Yep I'm sticking to my 1GB fiber for probably the rest of my life... paying $70 a month. I think 5GB speeds are more for huge houses like Mansions that have smart devices in every corner...and like 20 4K tvs...and if you are uploading 4K videos all day...
@@danram247 I agree man. I have 200Mbps fiber, and its way more than sufficient for most of my home tasks. I pay INR 1200 ($14.5) a month for that and while 500 would certainly help, I still feel anything above a gigabit is overkill until maybe 2035 to 2040.
if over wifi you wont get over 1 gig speed, why are there mesh systems for 5 gig speeds?
The bgw 320 is WiFi 6. That’s what. Other systems can be capable of other things.
I watched TH-cam videos in Korean about using 10Gbps internet. 5gbps? We need to get used to it, I think.
Man that’s awesome. It’s a first in my part of the country
What if you put 10 Gbit SFP+ NIC in your PC and then ONU SFP in it ? Will it work ? Also 5 gig speed is decent on my opinion... I have couple of 10 Gbps lines at my home and happens sometimes to get over 300 MB/s when downloading a game from Epic, Origin, Batlenet but not Steam... I dunno why... BTW we did LAN party at my home and couple of us managed to download same game with more than 200 MB/s at the same time ^^ So you never know when you will need fast internet ;)
How did you connected this to udm who support only 1/10gb?
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Im having 5Gb and it since only on 1 althow i have Multi gig SFP+ module, Nothing helped out.
(PPPoE)
Are you sure your SFP+ is multigig? Because I know for a fact that the UDM Pro hits 4.9Gbps in my testing on 5Gbps internet.
@@SPXLabs UDM-Pro (but not SE) permits synchronization of SFP+ only on 1Gb or 10Gb.
If you want to sync it on 2.5 or 5Gb, you need a Media Converter that can take the 5Gb in one end and bridge it to another that syncs on 10Gb... for instance, I'm using the CRS305-1G-4S+IN and connecting the rj45 to SPF+ to one port into the CRS, then in another port I'm connecting a DAC to the UDM... (that's what I've done to get the 2.5Gb
Unfortunately, this trick does not assist 5GB very much... Perhaps it has something to do with their use of PPPoE, which could be causing issues with speed or sync, but I am still investigating.
When i connect directly to the UDM im having issues with packet drop ... my guess is due to the fact it having hard time to sync the SFP+ to he correct speed ... so it get disconnected from time to time
I'm waiting for 400Gbps !!
40 more years!
@@SPXLabs Why so long? Different matter if one is willing to provide that much Internet and not a connection to the local hub, but the 400Gbps in data centers is reality today and it is only "the insane price of the port" what is holding it back from going to the random location into the woods. Also, as with your test is showing at 5Gbps already one is likely not filling that tube with anything meaningful anyway, so currently there is no need to go much more as well.
Sarcasm. It took about 30 years just to get here to 5Gbps. So I am poking fun at the way the US rolls out internet.
But yeah 5G is absolutely overkill today at the time of filming.
Here in spain digi just introduced 10gb 🤯🤯 for 30€/month
That’s amazing