How to Install Sapphire Nitro+ Radeon RX 590 in a Classic Mac Pro 5,1 for 4K & Mojave - Part 1©
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[RX 590: 12% better performance vs RX 580].
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This is about the brand new AMD Sapphire Nitro+ RX 590 Special Edition and the steps and tricks to install it in a legacy Mac Pro Tower. In order to be able to install Mojave 10.14.2, or above.
Relevant Reviews:
www.pcgamer.com/amd-radeon-rx...
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www.pcworld.com/article/33233...
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I have the 580 version and I love it. Especially the blue glow it emits 👍
Awesome video 🤗
@Lecker Lecker No they are super quiet as quiet as the original Nvidia 120. Crazy but true.
I updated this week to 10.14.3 on this same Mac... still running smoothly, driving two monitors - one is DVI and the other the same new 4K Viewsonic!
Doesn't works on Mojave with my 3,1 but with Catalina yes...
We are at the end of February and this RX 590 is still powering two Viewsonic monitors as mentioned below! and is excellent.
My Radeon 580 still power Mac Pro 2010 in 2021, Use it to for FCP, Motion, Gaming (mac and Bootcamp) runs fallout 3, NV, 4 with no problem.
Good video. I didn't know those cards could work fine with only an 8 PIN connector and the power from the PCI slot. Thank you for showing us this. RX590, maybe my next card now.
You should only run it using the stock BIOS, not the overclocked BIOS. The overclocked BIOS will draw more power, and might require the 6-pin connector. The reference cards use only a single 8-pin, over clocked cards could use either an 8 and a 6 or two 8's. If the card you get has fixed clocks, higher than the reference clocks, you may not have the option of using the 8-pin connector alone.
very pro. very detailed. thank you
the roller you made underneath your mac pro mid 2012 is so well made just tell us if you can make a video to show up how you made it
That cart is a great idea! I'm Copying!!
Thank you! Great Mac Pro specific installation video. More thorough than most, with a bit of OS core functions and developer insight. Did you have to change the bios-switch or anything at all in macOS to get this card to run? Looking forward to part 2.
Yes, I mentioned that for the concern about power draw, I did put the switch to computer not gamer. But either will work. Please see the whole video... I do answer all the questions asked in comments in the video!!!
@@applesaucemacintosh3577 Hey, I watched the whole video, multiple times, two times in its entirety today actually. You simply didn't cover the BIOS question I asked. And also: Please note that a 6-pin connector delivers 75W, not 150W. What were your plans for Part 2? I'm curious as I'm about to get this specific card today. Are you still using the 590 in your MP?
Bloody excellent it helped a lot by the way which kinda monitor did you use and second question can you make a video concerning the way you built the roller underneath your mac pro
Great information, useful tips, and helpful titling - you saved me from buying the wrong card, now I can buy the best card... and the right cable! oh, and I liked your skateboard :-)
Great vid. Now new ASRock RX590 is out. It has 8PIN socket only. If it can use on Mojave?
I had that same 5870 in my 5,1 for awhile but ended up putting the original 120 back in mainly due to the loudness and heat of that card.
Hi great video very helpful in your step by step. I have installed the same card in a 2009 pro flashed to 5.1 however I am getting a purple cast over the whole screen on the monitor. Do you have any ideas what is causing that? I converted from high Sierra to Mohave with out the card installed could that be the problem? any tips would be appreciated - thanks
Will you be putting up a part two?
Once installed your graphic card, is that working and opening pretty fast ??? more over can you make a video showing us how you built the roller underneath your macpro?? wd be great
A Link to the 6 pin cable adaptor would be great :) thx // oh and another question, how noisy the fans on this card ?
so, part 2 is coming?)
Nice video I really appreciate it. After watching this video I went on and bought the same video card you have and I love it cool lights too. But I have one question for you. When I installed it and plug my monitor in. I noticed a red light that comes on on the ram tray board. I have an Mac pro 6 core 3.46ghz mid 2010. Just want to know if this ever happened to you if so what should I do? Thanks!
It is unable to handle the power consumption....U have to use pixlas mode for providing more power to power hungry graphics card....Rx 580 is the max u can add directly without moding the power cable
@@debinvictor2297 this is why i read the comments section ;) i was curious as too whether this would have that issue ? would the single processor version have the same issue ?
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The 6 pin connectors provide 75 watts each. Total 150 watts plus 75 watts from the pcie slot. Total watts for pcie slots is 300 watts.
Hi,
I block between two graphics cards for mac pro 5.1, especially in power consumption, since the RX590 consumes in the 250w and has 6pin and 8pin, while the rx580 sapphire nitro consumes 235w with always 6 and 8 pin, the novelty I found it comes from the Sapphire Radeon RX 590 Pulse, it consumes 235w and only has an 8pin connector, so I think it can work on the power of the pro mac even push deep, what do you think? thank you
The dual 6 pin is said to be only 150W total (75W x 2). Yes it will work until you pull enough current from the motherboard under heavy load. Then some magic smoke.
Thanks Oscar... I would refer you to this forum: - it is pretty clear, the power it draws is within the scope of this power supply... forums.macrumors.com/threads/mac-pro-4-1-and-5-1-pcie-aux-power.2035519/
@@applesaucemacintosh3577 Yeah, I've seen all those before.
@@OscarCastillo1 Plus another 75 from the PCI-E. It won't choke until the combined PCIE+slot power is above 310w. Read the datasheets, that silver solder isn't there for shits n giggles.
Ster Fry Failure is not based on the combined power draw. Any individual 6 pin or PCIe slot can fail independently because the power isn’t always evenly distributed under load.
Oscar Castillo the ati radeon hd 5870 mac edition uses 228W.
Nice video...
Hi AppleSauce Macintosh please can you advise me which drivers did you install for it to work with Mojave and where did you download the drivers from, thank you
As the video clearly states... there are no drivers needed. thanks
Do you know if this will work in a Early 2008 3.1 mac pro? I already have Mojave installed.
I have a mac pro mid 2012, is this gpu a plug and play or do you have to do any steps before booting up?
Hi there AppleSauce Macintosh. Thanks for the video. You promised a recommendation for the splitter cable, I can not find one and would really appreciate it. Our brothers in Asia seem to have reversed the meaning of male and female plugs from what I can see from the pictures. Terribly frustrating.
more over what cables adapters you ve got to plug in your monitor ??( hdmi )
Is this card compatable with an early 2009 MacPro 5, 1? I want to switch my Nvidia GTX 980ti for the AMD Radeon RX 590. Also do I need to uninstall my Nvidia CUDA and driver manager and install an AMD driver software?
im still on the original card and the computer still runs like a beast, but im definitely looking into upgrade options at the moment, will squeeze another 5 years out of the machine no dramas i recon. was looking at the 580 but im curious to see what advantages a 590 might have ?
590 has higher clocks than 580, that's all. The clocks are high enough, though, that they go beyond what a factory OC 580 is capable of, that's why AMD gave it a new name, rather than sell them as an OC 580. They can get more money by calling it a 590.
@@gamewizard1760 cheers mate :)
For those that don’t have (2) mini 6 pin male to standard 6 pin male connectors, you’ll need to purchase them. These cable connect to the mother board. The standard 6 pin side connects to the dual 6 pin to 8 pin cable
He said dual mini 6 pin FEMALE to a single 8 pin male standard. Every cable I can find has the dual mini 6 pin but as male to a single male 8 pin not female to male
11 months later ... we are waiting for part 2 :/
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@@brunoprado10 1 year and 5 months later.. we're waiting for part 2
let's keep hope
@@starkead3087 While there's life, there's hope. hahahaha
What are you using to control the fans? My sapphire fans won’t run at all.
Great video! I wasn't sure if this card would work in my 2010 5.1 Mac Pro 12 core, and now I know, so thanks for posting, now I can order the card and follow your instructions, I appreciate it.......
Awesome! Encouraging comment. Part 2 will be up soon!
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please reply, I'm waiting to yout answer to buy this monster, I've a 5.1 mac pro with dual quadcore, I've 8 physical core and 16 treads, so I read that the PSU of a mac pro is 980 Watts !! this is aweome ! I think that it can handle the RX Nitro+ SE easly, what do you think?
You are good, go for it! I am using it now since this video was made... without any issues!
I just wanna ask that does 590 compatible with macbook pro 2018 as an eGPU.
Have you tested to see if you get audio to the tv using hdmi please let me know
Hey, folks, it is January 3rd 2019 and this card is amazing, still working fine, never overheats and it has given no problems, now if only Radeon would pay me for saying that! :-) --- anyone else out there using it?
Thanks for the great demo. I'm planning on picking one up this weekend. How's the spacing on Slot 2?
I installed the Sapphire RX580 last month, using it mostly for video editing, I found however that the backplate gets very hot under load, e.g. gaming, so I put mine in PCI slot 2.
It seems to me that the backplate also functions as a heatsink, which seems to make sense because in most Windows PCs the card would be flipped around.
is it good for video editing?
AppleSauce Macintosh I installed the Saphine on my 2010 and and started having blinking issues with my monitor (apple cinema 30”) at first startup. (The day after I installed) Once I reboot or pop out the power cable from the power brick on my monitor it works fine. Any ideas?
How did you get around the EFI firmware partition missing error? to upgrade the OS to High sierra and Mojave.
does it work well??
if i wanna plug in an apple minidisplay monitor will it match if so what kinda mini display adapter cable should we use ?? wd help a lot thks
2 part coming soon? Love to see fcpx preformace
GemPro, the interest in Part 2 is much appreciated. Currently working on Part 2.
@@applesaucemacintosh3577 8 months later ... we are waiting for part 2 :/
This is a wonderful video! Do you know if I can upgrade to Mojave from 10.12.6 Sierra, Or do I need to install 10.13 High Sierra first? (since I'm having trouble getting High Sierra to work on my mid 2010 5,1 dual boot system even after the flash).
Yes you must upgrade to 10.13.6 first
Sorry, I have not kept up with this video... but I am thrilled it has helped so many... yes of course you need to install 10.13 first before you can install a metal card and then 10.14
How can I put Mojave in first? The current card shipped with it is too old?
HI! This card RX590 and the RX580 will only run with Mojave? Is this right? With El Capitan not?
It can run on El Capitan
Does this card block access to the 2nd PCIe slot?
Did you have to install any drivers or was it recognised straight away
I have also installed. You need no drivers or other changes. th-cam.com/video/HrXoNUYeQHM/w-d-xo.html It has the same ID as the official supported RX 580 I also had before.
As mentioned in the video if you watched it all the way... no drivers were needed, even with a non Apple spec card.
is it okay / better power supply to simply plug it via both it's 6 pin & 8 pin connectors into "both" 6 pin connectors provided for power? (one obviously being a 6 to 8 pin convertor on top of the 6 to 6 pin cable) ?
was just delivered today. installed it / plugged it into my mac pro 4,1 flashed to a 5,1 system and all seems chill. used both 6 pin and 8 pin outlets running directly into my system. though I can't seem to find any way to use the Trixx software for a mac. All google searches lead to Windows download only. Now trying to find out how to change / turn off the lights on it without the sapphire trixx software. did you actually find a link to it for a mac? :-/
found out it's stuck at a constant blue led no matter what. also ended up getting an external 1000w PSU that I plugged into only the GPU via a single 6 pin cable running into the back while still having it plugged into the 8 pin cable inside the mac. It's def. overkill in wattage but will last me the next couple GPU's as I upgrade. Had to do the "safety pin" trick in the PSU's motherboard cable to get it to power on without having it attached to my actual motherboard but otherwise now the GPU can perform full throttle without any fault to my system / or under perform with heavy 4k edits. Sorry for rambling on your page, just figured it'd help any Sapphire 590 humans who have a Mac Pro 5,1 who come here.
Hallo. Da die Leistungsaufnahme dieser Grafikkarte 235 Watt beträgt, reicht es aus, ein 8-poliges Stromkabel anzuschließen? Weil ich im Video gesehen habe, dass Sie nur ein 8-poliges Kabel angeschlossen haben und keine Kabel an die angeschlossen haben 6-Pin-Gehäuse. Vielen Dank für Ihre Anleitung, da ich auch ein Mac Pro 5.1-Gerät habe
Please I need help! I have a Mac Pro beginning 2008, I installed mojave and the Sapohire graphics press rx 580. It is heard when it ceases but it does not give video. I do not know what to do.
Hello, Does the Rx 580 reach 4k resolution on Mac OS?
each 6 pin off the logic board has 75 watts of power not 150 watts as well as 75 watts available from the pcie slot
Hi i buy the same card and my macpro 2009 4.1 flashing in 5.1don't kext in mac os mojave 10.14.5. Please help me
Do you get a boot screen from 590?
2 x 75 watts from six pins plus 75 watts from PCIe slot equals 225 watts total. More power will require getting creative. I own this computer - beware cards that require more juice!
That is what I always heard and that is why so many are talking about the mod to the power supply cables. When this video said 2 x 150 from each six pin I was a little worried.
you don't get a boot screen?
I want to upgrade my Mac Pro 5.1 2010 Sierra to High Sierra, do i have to remove gpu (NVIDIA GeForce GTX 660 Ti 2047 MB) and insert original gpu (Radeon 5770 1GB) for the procedure?
No, you don't need to do that. You should be able to upgrade directly.
Hi, do you have to use the 6 pin female to 8 pin male connector or can you just use the existing cables in the 5.1
Richard Hurst you use the existing cable AND the dual 6-pin to 8-pin
As mentioned in earlier answers, the power draw is such that you need the 75 from the slot and the 75 from each cable thus on all the forums as well as here you will be wise to buy the splitter cable mentioned in the video. and nothing else. thanks!
can i upgrade older mac pro like 1.1 2.1 or 3.1 ?
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Nice card !
What USB card did u buy
My dad put this in our mac. Now it won't go into sleep mode. The graphics card keeps it awake. We are running 10.14.6. How can I fix this?
Where's part2?
Hmmmm RX590 or a VEGA64 or an RX590 with Crossfire maybe, for an Mac Pro 5, 1.
Also, is it possible to go for 2x12 core cpus?
I mention in the video that the RX 590 board is made in other configurations, like the FATBOY, but this Nitro Card has a switch to use a little less power and so far has caused me only wonder! It is a great card in Apple's finest Mac Pro!
Great perfect! Thanks so much for your response. More power on your channel. Notifications on for this one. :)
Please watch the whole video these questions are answered clearly, thanks
Thank you so much. :)
hi.does 3060 work for macpro 4.1 ?
will this particular card automatically work in a upgraded 4.1 to 5.1 cMP from 2009 as well?
it doesn't work. My one is the same as yours. I am still looking for a solution with Radeon Plus RX 580 special edition.
I don't think so. 2010 yes, and 2012
I agree with Oscar - your numbers are wrong. A 6 pin delivers 75 watts max, PCIe slots deliver 75 watts - a Mac Pro can only deliver 75 x 3 or 225 watts from these sources. You're underpowering this card, so be aware that you might be flirting with disaster.
375W ..lol ... it's 75w/75w + 75w PCI Slot
And yet here I am and the card runs perfectly after all these years!
What about the six pin connector on the GPU? Is it left empty?
Was wondering about that as well. Thought it required both an 8 pin AND a 6 pin which would not allow the 590 to be installed on the backplane.
You can do custom mod or buy psu i think they still do for this system. Any W psu ...
Where can i get this card??? My XFX just died!!
How to boot from external HD or USB on mac pro
Sapphire Radeon RX 580 vs 590 nitro = what are the pros and cons ?
does the rx590 work on mac 10.13.6 High Sierra ?
Yes, sure, because you have to upgrade to Mojave from High Sierra.
Hey, can u help me with that card(((
How to upgrade from Mojave to Catalina using the RX 580 GPU
This card killed my logic board, i used the the special cable two 6 pins to one 8 pins, was running fine for couple of days until i decide to work on some 4K video and the Mac Pro turned off and that was it, my Mac Pro didn’t want to power back on, i replaced the logic board and changed the RX 590 For the RX 580, running smooth for a few weeks already and I’m able to get back to work.
So it blocks a PCIe slot? I need all 4 of mine
It does. That's my problem. Otherwise the card is fantastic
Chicken and egg situation... How do i get Mojave installed when the the shipped graphics card will not let me??? So have put the RX590 in and no video! Help please anyone.
He says at the end you need to have version 10.13.6 High Sierra before installing Mojave.
You should NEVER VACUUM in your computer, only use compressed air or a micro fiber cloth on non-electronic surfaces... the vacuum can build up static energy and fry your electronics...
Need to install Drivers for
RX 590 ?
No the Mac automatically has ATI card drivers
Do you see the boot screen with this card?
HyperXism no you can’t
What he said. :)
So what's the final decision !! can we buy these card and install it directy with the original power supply without problem or no?? thanks for all your advices
Yes, I have 2 Mac pro's and the 580's drop in and work out the box, just no apple boot logo
@@phatnum17 thanks, how about the 590 card?
@@mohnumber7 I'd imagine the same, but performance for the cost over the 580 isn't worth it imo
@@phatnum17 thanks, so let's go for the 580 nitro + se ;-) thanks
If you watch this video it clearly explains and answers all questions about the Power to the board... the Power Supply is fine, but you need to use the cable that I explained in the video that goes from 2 6 pins to one 8 Pin... thanks!
Hi will a Asus AMD Radeon RX580 ROG STRIX OC 8GB Graphics Card work/fit
Yes it will work with 8 pin connector. You will no longer have a boot screen!
You could try it, an AMD card should be detected by the Mac OS and many other people are using a non Apple flashed RX 580
can i install this on a mac pro 2,1?
No, I would not recommend even trying it in an earlier Mac... and the drivers are included in 13.6 and 14+ - the title is clear... a 5,1 thanks.
580 vs 590 ANY DIFFERENCE??
Since no one answered you...the 580 is ANTI-COVID...590 is susceptible to COVID
Does Mac Pro 5,2 support the boot screen with RX 580 nitro+special edition ?
Is the apple logo visible at boot?
No you won't get the boot logo (Yet)
Thanks for the question. The Apple logo is only visible with on a card made specifically for Apple, usually says that on the box... however lately these companies are not making many Apple specific cards, but this has never been an issue to most of us who have Mac Pros... it is not hard to reset the boot by zapping the PRAM or booting from another external drive then in Sys. Prefs... to Startup.
The new 2019 Radeon 7nm cards will have a lower power requirement.
RX 5700 cards produce more Heat
What is the chassis?
? It is a Mac Pro 5,1
@@applesaucemacintosh3577 emmm.
Should it be a computer case?
Sorry, English is not good.
What is the type of computer case?
It is an Apple Mac Pro, - last aluminum case made and called a 5,1 - from 2012
Guys rx 590 requires 235 watts power. Don't use it in 5,1 unless u draw power from a separate SATA power. Mac Pro 5,1 has only 75+75watts( 150watts ) in the PCIE power in which he has conncted. Don't draw power like this guy for rx 590.
It's 225 watts sorry
@@debinvictor2297 You can do mod and install any psu you want ... So no problem ...
3 * 75 watt is 225. 1 from the slot and 2 from the 6 pins on the board. Are you stupid?
the best graphics card for this machine is a Gigabyte AMD 7970 3GB, has Metal, has Mac display plugs and is plug and play on the 4,1 5,1, the Bios can be flashed to have a Mac boot screen, never had any problems at all with this card, one 6 pin Mac to regular 6 pin cable and one 6 pin Mac to 8 pin regular cable will do, done it twice,
How do you flash the bios to get boot screen with this card? Any particular place to get the bios and instructions? Thanks
@@Morphosis68 techpowerup get the stuff to do it yourself or macvidcards $95
@@TonyD-dz8pt Thanks for that. Just looking for instructions. Did you just search for that exact card on their page and download the .rom file to flash it?
Sadly it will fail when you do the high GPU tasks due to insufficient power. You should do the pixlas mod on your power supply and then connect this extra power cable to this 6 pin. I can bet it is failing when you use is for GPU heavy load tasks.
Thanks for your comment Lucas... if you do a bit of research - the PC World review mentioned - says it draws about 225 W. Sapphire themselves say 250, if you overclock it - maybe 300 Watts. if you actually watch the video you'll see the PCI slot has 75, each 6 pin dual cable has 75 for a total of 225! So no worries. I have had no problems, no noise and again if you actually watch this video I turned the Bios switch down to draw less power! But if you know something I don't? Please speak up! by the way the Mac Pro 5,1 has an amazing 980 Watts of power. I have 5 drives inside and a blue ray burner... and so far... smooooottthhh. www.macpartsonline.com/661-5449-apple-power-supply-980-watts-for-mac-pro-2012-2010-2009-a1289.html
It's not going to fail. I've had this card in my mac pro with a 24 hour torture test. No problems. And the pixlas mod... do not use wiretaps if you go that route. Do it right and ready further into the thread for the correct way to do it. The only reason to go that route is the Vega cards.
When using a Sapphire Pulse RX580, I measured about 130 watts when gaming, so to me it seems the manufacturers list a higher power draw, maybe to have a margin of safety.
Ster Fry do you have a video link or page link were I can see how to do that for a vega frontier please?
@@applesaucemacintosh3577 Hi Thanks for your great video. I bought the Sapphire Pulse RX 580 and installed into my Mac Pro however I am getting a purple cast on the monitor
If you unplug your power supply, then the system is no longer grounded. smh
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RX 590 is Better than RX 5700XT .
I've done the same! th-cam.com/video/HrXoNUYeQHM/w-d-xo.html
Works perfectly! I let it on Mode 1 and under full CPU, GPU and Fan usage.
No shut down or other bug.
You said Female but everywhere I looked they did not say female
I found a listing and the cable is said to be dual mini 6 pin MALE to a single Male 8 pin standard. So I’m lost as to why you said female
Does someone tried with a 3.1 classic Mac Pro ?