Catch all tray guide // How to make a catch all tray // CNC
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- Looking for a cool way to up you CNC skills? Catch all trays are a great way to challenge your self and use up some hardwood cut offs! In this video we will start out designing the trays, working our way though the engraving process, and then how to finish the trays.
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Thanks for watching everyone! Links to everything I used in the video are in the description. Feel free to ask questions in the comments ill try and answer them all!
What cutting settings did you use with your v-bit?
Man, my Onefinity will be arriving in July, after seeing this, I’m hoping it will be an easy program to learn because right now my brain is sore. Haha. Great work y’all!! Enjoy your vids so much!!
There’s a ton of programs out there! I would play with a few now and see which one speaks to you lol for the most part they all get the job done. Easel
Is a great starting point. Vectric software is great but pricey
I just ordered last night.Will it take that long for delivery?They grabbed my money right away at 11pm on a Saturday night.
@@lukaspotgieter7363 yes. Look at ur receipt, find ur order number then go to their website and click on “orders”. Find ur order number and click on it, it will pop up an expected delivery week
Thanks for this great content. Something I am tying to learn
great video, but i don't recommend doing the outside profile cut first as it is more likely to come loose. a newb should always carve non-through cuts first, then finish with the profile contour.
I love your videos!! 👍
Thank you 🙏🏼
I was so excited to see this video was posted!! I had been waiting on it since i saw your video on 5 CNC projects! I bought the German Shepherd file from your website and started working on it but keep getting an error code about my Z axis position being less than the min soft limit in the middle of the detail engraving. Anyone know how to fix this issue or what i'm doing wrong? I'm new to the CNC world so any help is appreciated. Thanks!! (working with the onefinity and easel)
Are you resetting your Z zero? The machine should be able to cut down to the waste board and the engraving is less than that.
Did reset the zero before starting the engraving. Gonna have to look more into it this weekend, had to go back to work before i could get it fixed.
Love your videos, you guys are awesome! I am new to cnc and struggling with this whole pocket, then engraving stuff. I am curious, if I prefer to start my x and y axis on the bottom left, how do I engrave after the pocket?
Thanks! Ummm you could try adding the depth to your v bit. So for example if your pocket is .4 deep and you are engraving .1 deep your cut depth would be .5 I personally haven’t done this so I’m not sure how well it will work just an idea. I started running my zero in the middle a long time ago and haven’t done a corner zero in forever lol
Great work. Where do you find the dog images
Can I use a 40×48 wood pallet to make some designs ? Thanks
What speeds/Feeds do you run the 3/4" Freud at? not seeing anything on their site!
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Watched the video several times but when I got to clear out pocket it is clearing out the whole circle including the offset now. Not sure if this was a recent update with easel or what I am doing wrong.
I’m not exactly sure what you mean but you have to run them as separate files. One file to clear the pocket and another to cut outside out
@@TwoMooseDesign I figured it out. It wasn't allowing me to select the inner circle individually to make the dish. Had to click off the entire thing then I was able to click the inner circle only to make that the dish portion and keep the offset separate
hi great show, but you talk very fast but i am able to slow it down
Hi if I want to use a 3/4" bowl bit how do I tel easel to recognise the bit ? Do I add custom bit and type in 3/4" or is it the shank size 0.75 ?
Why hasn't inventables installed a bowl bit in there inventory as it seems to be popular 🤔
hey! Run it as a custom 3/4" endmill and start slow as its a large bit
@@TwoMooseDesign thank you
This will be a very helpful video for many. Well done.
Thanks! It will save me time answering questions too lol here! watch this 😁
so what program you running i have vcarve pro brand new at this stuff but your stuff don't look like mine
I use v carve pro and easel. Easel was used in the video
Great tip on the Safety height. i was unaware of that and will definitely use it in the future.
Glad to share. Thanks for checking it out!
Easel now was an extra safety height which you can set to avoid any external obstruction like clamps. You can still have a short safety/rapid height to allow quick retracts between cuts and at the end of the job, the extra height to get home safely!
Question... I am attempting to duplicate what you have done. At 2:28 when you select clear our pocket .... the result doesn't look like my result. My rendering gets rid of the wall of the tray. Any ideas as to what I am doing wrong?
You need to have two bits selected. A roughing and a detail bit. If you have that part down then check to make sure your cutting on the right paths, clear out pocket and possibly cut outside the like. It’s hard to know without seeing it
Great video and those trays are awesome! I should make a dunk tank for these but...one day hahaha I hear ya!
thanks for watching! and yeah....I have an endless list of shop and house projects lol hopefully today ill get started on a new workbench haha
Congratulations on the channel, very cool your videos success that like from mgf
Two Moose thanks for video I plan on using your instructions to make trays however I have one question at least for now is that 90 degree V bit which Bit is that do you have a link
Hey Greg! There’s a bunch of links in the description of the video. If you can’t find them just let me know.
Hello, can you tell me the program you are using? thank you bro
In this video i used inventables easel
Thank you for your videos, I enjoy them a lot, I already subscribed, what diameter is your CNC?
Thanks! I’ve upgraded a few times but my current machine is a onefinity journeyman and it cuts 32”x48”
@@TwoMooseDesign Thank you friend, greetings and much success
Really nice video guys! Great explanation on making the images
Thanks!
Can you make a video on how you cut multiple trays at one time? Do they all have to be the same file or can you cut more than one file?
Yeah I’ll add it to my list. I cut them all with one file. So they cut simultaneously. Different files for each bit
@@TwoMooseDesign thanks
@@TwoMooseDesign I was wondering how you cut the different files all at once also how you would set that up with the onefinity in different spots on the spoil board. I’m using vcarve pro
@@TwoMooseDesign This is a great video and really helpful. I'd also be really interested to see how you set up multiple trays for a single file - if it's just positioning the center of each piece in the the same spot on the spoil board, or if there's an easier way to do it. How you place the file in the design software to match up with where it's located on the spoil board, etc. Super helpful and great information! Thanks for putting it together.
move the spindle down close to material loosen collet let bit fall down touch surcface and tighten collet. much faster than jogging the bit down to the material and is very precise
Much time consuming pocketing toolpath.... Increases cost of product... Also depth of tray is too less...
Thanks for this video, I revisited a lot when I got my onefinity… quick question… what do your bit speeds look like on easel for that 90 degree v bit? With the easel recommended speeds I’m sure a tray like that boxer would take around 40-50 mins.
Hey! I run a speed of 100ipm depth per pass .12 and ramp down at 30
Thank you. This was the best video that I’ve seen explaining how to carve a bowl using easel.
Thanks i appreciate it 😁
Great video. Thank you for sharing. What program is used? Please share with the name or its link to download
its inventables easel
I would reconsider doing the profile first.
I’ve cut hundreds and very rarely have an issue 🤷🏼♂️
Great video! Have you tried running the cuts in raster and having it cut with the grain direction? You don't see the tool marks that way and you have way less sanding, if any. These tray are awesome! Thanks for all the tips!
Really useful information! Thanks for sharing about the safety height. I needed that.
Thanks Bruce! The step over and safety height are definitely under utilized 👌🏼
Thank you! For the simple bowls in the beginning, you created two separate workpieces, one for the inside of the bowl and the other for the outside. do you export each workpiece individually ?
I do yes, two separate g codes. If you are using the same bit for both you could export them in the same file, make sure it’s on one slide and then export.
Thanks for the video. Your tip about the safety retract height fixed a problem on a sign file I was having and couldn't figure out. As soon as I heard your comment about it cutting across the corner of the bowl, I realized that's what was happening on my file. Just goes to show, you never know when the tip that helps you out will come from a totally unrelated video. I've only had my Onefinity up and running about 3 weeks now, learning something new every day.
Glad to share! Its definitely a learning curve, I typically tell people to expect about 6 months until you're comfortable
very helpful video !! I'll be making some trays soon, I have a question about safety highs... how do you set them on vcarve/cut2d?
thank you !!
I plan to do a similar video in v carve pro
Never knew about the safety height feature and always wondered how you did your tray engravings. Very helpful thank you
Thanks for watching 🙌🏼🙌🏼
Sir plz guaid me in witch tooling use software
I just ordered the Onefinity.You are doing great explaining stuff.
That’s exciting! Thanks for watching 😁
Hey! I’m a woodworker also and built my own CNC. I am looking to upgrade and am thinking about the onefinity CNC! I was wondering if there was a way to message you to get your help on trying to see if onefinity would send me a machine to review. Talk about what you did to get them to work with you. I know I’m a smaller channel than you but I’ve gotten over 52k views on some videos so hopefully that would help! I have Instagram if you guys do or if email is better. Thanks!
And great video!
New to CNCs and waiting for my Onefinity to arrive, but I've been trying to get a head start and learn some of the software. It's not easy to learn it while I can't test things, but none-the-less, trying to learn as much as I can before it arrives. I'm confused in your video when you set the shape position to 0 and 0. It seemed to have moved off of your workpiece. Why is that and how did it end up cutting correctly? Is it because you simply didn't set your workpiece dimensions prior or am I missing something else?
This puts the zero in the center of the work piece, that’s just how it has to be done in easel
Nice video but why o why are you racing through it, going so fast nobody can understand the steps you take, which negates the point of the video
It’s a 17:00 video, if I drag it out any longer people won’t watch. Unfortunately people don’t have the attention span and if I get too detailed I got no views.
Awesome video every useful, by any chance do you have a video on how to do a catchall tray with and offset design example Texas map with the cowboys
Thanks for watching! I wouldn’t have any videos on anything that specific. I would just find the photo of the state you want and follow the video instructions then just add what ever cowboys logo you’d like into the bottom of the tray 🤷🏼♂️
These are awesome. What speed do you run your router at? Thanks for all your videos - helped me make the decision to buy my Onefinity!
With the makita I run it between 2-5. Around 3 for larger bits and v bits. And about 5 for down cuts and up cuts. I don’t put a ton of thought into it. Typically ehhh close enough. 😂 as long as it’s not going way to fast or way to slow you’re fine. People get super in-depth with speeds and feeds I do not 🤷🏼♂️
Probably not the place to ask but fascinated with your story and success. Slowely been growing myself and want to start playing around with more exotic, hardwoods rather then just pine. I live in a very rural area and was curious if you guys buy your lumber online, or local rough cut and do the milling yourselves?
Hey! We do not order wood online. We have two lumber suppliers and one of them has exotics and it’s about a hour drive one way.
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Honestly great video! But for me? Sure... Easy.... No problem 😉 😳
Thanks! There’s definitely a learning curve! It took me probably 6 months to feel comfortable with what I was doing
I was ready to hit the button on a Shapeoko last night.Seems like they dissappeared in thin air.Hope I do not have to wait for ever for delivery on this one.
Onefinity does have a few month wait. I don’t know how long exactly but they are back ordered that’s all I really know 🤷🏼♂️
i have 30x30 longmill with 701 makita router can i set the bit settings similar to what u input?
I have no idea. I would be conservative on the speeds and feeds to be safe. If it sounds fine add more speed
Do you use a video game controller to setup?
What's the name of the program your using for modeling this and exporting the cnc code?
Inventables easel
Cant you use machinist clamps to hold your blanks?
Sure, there’s lots of ways to do it. I just have had the least failures with tape and glue.
Thanks for your videos man. Been into cnc have mpcnc currently but my onefinity should be here any day now.
Thanks for watching! And that’s exciting you’ll love it
very nice!
Thanks!
I really wish I had a CNC for wood...
they are expensive but great additions to the shop!
What RPM did you run your router on these? I'm burning through bits.
For endmills 4 on the makita and for a large clearing tool 3 then 3 for v bits. But I don’t know your set up or speeds and feeds 🤷🏼♂️
Saved for later when I need this info again!
Thanks for watching!
Sorry but I came into this not knowing anything and was excited to see a guide from start to finish and I left still not knowing anything. This was like a speed tutorial. I will have to watch every 5 seconds 34 times.
Can You show how to set up cutting multiple trays at once in easel?
Set zero on one pieces and measure off of that one and input the measurements to set the location of the next design. If you’re doing a bunch it’s a lot faster to glue up a panel and cut a bunch.
Great video. I would also be interested in a bundle price for the files, as the exchange rate for canadian $ is already killing me. :) I'm also looking forward on a video explaining in more detail how to setup the program for carving multiple (and different) trays in one setting. Thanks.
Can you do this on 3018 CNC machine ?
I’m not familiar with that machine but pretty much any Cnc should be able to make a catch all tray.
Great video! I'm not a fan of Easel but that Onefinity looks awesome and so does your work. Thanks for sharing!
It doesnt matter what software you use, the process should be relatively the same! Its all personal preference
Hello! I am just starting with cnc and I am curious. What are your settings for spindle speed and feed speed? Also, when you go with V carving ( 90 degree v bit), what depth do you go with this bit? Thanks a lot! Waiting for more videos.
I didn’t see it on your website... but do you offer a bundle for the files?? Will you be offering a bundle?
Hey! I can definitely offer a bundle. I need to figure out how to do it on my website. Send me an email I can do it manually twomoosedesign@gmail.com
@@TwoMooseDesign thank you!!!!! ❤️
How much is the machine?
Thanks for tons of informations! One question is on video 9:07, why do I have to make X/y "0" ?
That was how you set the zero to the middle of the work piece, easel has since changed and added a feature to mark zero in center.
@@TwoMooseDesign Now I get it! thanks for your reply. I'm new to CNC and I have one more question! If I want to design my own thing on Easel, ( let's say a unique template for desk legs) which tool should I use? if you know a good TH-cam tutorial video about this, please recommend me. Have a great weekend!
with easel if you are an educator they will give you a free subscription.
🤔 I guess I never considered myself and educator I’ll have to see what that entails
@@TwoMooseDesign if you have a child or work at a school register in that email then send them an educator request and its almost immediate for all the features to unlock. it seems to renew yearly as well i had to re reg my educator account this year and when i did i was amazed at all the stuff added in the program. more bits to choose from, a ton more fonts and literally a thousand fold in the clipart folder.
Very cool
I'm so sad I didn't run across you guys until yesterday. Thanks to our friends at 731 Woodworks for having you on their weekly show and to you for going on their weekly show! I hope to buy a CNC machine before Christmas and when I do, you guys will get a bunch of my money. To be continued!!!!!!!
We have a boxer. Perfect
Please what is the name of programm you designe in
Easel
Hello. Thanks for great video.What software you use?
Hello, what´s software are you using, thank´s
When following step by step with you mine dont come out like yours far as the outline
Are you cutting outside of the line? Or trying to generate the outline?
I got the basic bowl down. Now I got to get the hang of making a bowl or trey with a engraved image
First off I wanted to thank you guys again for producing these videos they are extremely helpful for this old turd to learn CNC. I have been practicing cutting out these dog faces and have the Onefinity and settings are copied off of what you suggested in this video for last step of cutting out the project. On one of the last passes I could hear the sound changing and it dug down into the pine before I could stop it and pulled the bit out of the router and stuck in the wood. The only thing I could think of was that I had the speed set too low on the router which was 3 1/2. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks again.
Did your bit slip down from the collet? Thats what I set the router speed to if you are using a similar bit as me.
@@TwoMooseDesign It could have but thought I had it tight enough. The thing that was weird to me that on another one that was set the same the cutout was a minute less.
@@davidrowe1254 maybe your depth got off a little. When ever I switch bits I tap the collet with the wrench because dust builds up in there. It’s not uncommon doe it to get gunked up and slip, I’ve had it happen a few times. Every few uses I’ll take the collet off and give it a couple taps to make sure it’s dust free, you’d be surprised how much gets in there
@@TwoMooseDesign Thanks for the help I will check the collet
What's is soft?
Thank you so much for this video! My Onefinity arrives in about 3 weeks!
The wait is absolutely brutal! 😂 Thanks for watching 😁
@@TwoMooseDesign you’re not kidding! I ordered in December 😩 Talk about anxiety!
@@tennesseetimberworkscompan81 you'll love it! Just take your time and start slow and you'll be a pro in no time
I just ordered that mask tonight, great reviews on Amazon
How long does it take to cut?
A catch all tray? Between 10 minutes and a hour 🤷🏼♂️ depends on the design
@@TwoMooseDesign what's a 10 min cut? What about the dog designs how long did they take to cut?
@@dusticdustmakerdesigns depends on the design lol some take 5 minutes for the face some take 20 lol
@@TwoMooseDesign what do you do to cut down the time to that? I tried to configure one and it says it's
Take an hour for 1
@@dusticdustmakerdesigns it depends on your machine 🤷🏼♂️ i use a 3/4 straight bit to clear out the cavity
what is it that makes the details darker than the tray itself?
What wood species are you using?
nice work, question, can aspire be used on this machine?
Absolutely! I have v carve pro I just need to take some time and mess around with it.
@@TwoMooseDesign great, ty, looks like i will be getting the oneinfinity cnc
@@mtz3843 we really like ours. The wait time sucks though lol
@@TwoMooseDesign im seeing that, where as all the others are deliverd in three weeks
Love the red eyes😊 my ppl. 🎉
What settings do you use for your V bit cutting?
Great video man, excited to see more Onefinity content coming out!
Thanks for watching! I try to add one in the line up every other month. Let me know if you have suggestions, always open to new ideas.
@@TwoMooseDesign It’s just good to see videos like this come out (start to finish.) The Onefinity is a relatively untapped market on TH-cam and a lot of people, myself included, are biding the time waiting for our machines to show up. So any and all information has been great! Awesome work!
@@beetzwastaken Thanks! ill keep the videos coming! 😁
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Thanks man
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Amazing!
Thanks!
Very nice work
Thanks!
really great tutorial video thanks.
Thanks! 😁
i have to be doing something wrong i tried 50 times . I make the circle open apps make the offset, delete first circle , have the offset hit clear pocket and get a solid circle? like the first one.
@@watchtv1963 the inside circle needs to be “clear out pocket” and the outside circle needs to be cut on line or cut outside of line. Make sure the inside circle is the only clear out pocket path
Awesome thanks. As a complete novice, I was wondering what is the accuracy one can achieve on a mass production doing this process? Meaning if I set specific sizes with the cnc, how accurate will be let's say the actual inside pocket compared to the settings? Because I have 200 ceramic dishes (rectangle shape) and I would like to have 200 trays made and then put the dishes inside the trays (I'd like them to fit as precise as possible without leaving to much of a gap). Would you say too much variation occurs among the trays causing some dishes to fit and some don't?
There shouldn't be variation among the individual pieces. But they may not be to-size if you don't have your machine dialed in perfectly. I'd suggest make one, then see how your machine is doing size-wise and adjust accordingly
@@robbie6625 thank you Robbie! I appreciate it
Thank you.
Thanks for watching!
Which Software are you working on for designing?
If I’m making something from scratch I’ll make it in Adobe illustrator
Excellent
What kind of software is this？
Inventables easel
Do you use easel or easel pro?
@@mikegallagher782 easel pro. They limit the software a lot with out it
Thanks for the quick reply Jeff. I ordered my onefinity in February after watching your and Meyers reviews and it’s supposed to be delivered by end of May. Really appreciate you sharing all your CNC knowledge and techniques with newbies like me!
@@mikegallagher782 thanks for following along! The wait is brutal but it’s much better than the x carve we had
Can you share 3d file
Files are available on our website
Really nice video! Thank you for covering this. I am very very tempted to get a Onefinity for my personal projects. Also, pro tip I have done for the z-axis setting is to take a post-it note or note card that is taped hanging over an edge of the material. Then lower the bit until you touch the paper lightly, at this point you can zero the z-axis. This helps to prevent bit cracking or snapping because it does not provide any, substantial, force upwards on the bit as it is lowered and does not scratch the workpiece. I also sometimes use metal plates that are inscribed with their thickness. This way you can zero out minus the thickness of the plate if you need it very accurate.
Thanks! And thanks for the the tip 👌🏼
Feeler gauges work well too!
These trays are the design I've been envisioning in my head. I might buy some of your designs to save me some computer time. These will be awesome for my local market, plus i can compete with you on Etsy. :)