Rahman el Bacha played this way better than any Pianist I heard. Even Yuja cant play this as good as him. She and other pianists tend to rush and show off their technique, but Rahman el Bacha paid respect to the piece by showing so much more details that were missing from other pianists. It is not how fast you can play this...but how much you can evoke out of it. Well done Rahman el Bacha !
Y Wang lighter , above the key-board no technic exercice but a composition as a masterpiece . To day it's Y Wang in Prokofiev j live vzry well V Aschnenazy in Prokofiev-concertis . Here it's a good exam by a studient of a Conservatoire no more
@@marcvdm1111 j don't understand what you mean when you write " swing " ? except J S Bach all Toccata seems more exercices than pieces of music ; all toccatas are in CNMDP - examens ( j had Czerny op-92 very far from to day ) , so no difference Between hundreds and hundreds recordings Prokofiev Toccata , don't look for a melody when there is none , it's better for you , in first technic only technic with all Toccatas except Bach j repeat .
Emil Gilels also gets it, doesnt speedrun the piece like Yuja Wang or Martha Argerich. Maybe Im just salty I cant play as fast as them but find Ragman el Bacha's tempo very achievable (Im also learning this Toccata, hellish, but honestly could be worse...)
Terry P Right? Potentially the cleanest performance I've ever heard. It's lacking a little of the fire that Argerich/Horowitz bring to it, but man, what an absolutely rock-solid technique.
Fanchen Piano I agree. There are much more impressive examples. Like pogorelich's scarbo. If you use one volume for the entire piece, you can barely hear the beginning but the climax is so loud it's unbearable.
Yes, Kapustin's #3 and Ravel's from Le Tombeau de Couperin are the only two I've found that are as exciting, in totally different ways, than this masterpiece.
I actually performed this piece last night in Berlin. When I woke up, I was on the floor banging my hands against the foot board after falling off the bed......
I can imagine prokofiev sitting at the piano improvising this and having fun. What I can't even think about is him writing it down for the pianists to come
Took me years (I played this, not too well, at 15) to realise that this is in sonata form wow. Here is my analysis, where M stands for motif: Exposition 0:00 - Title screen 0:07 - Introduction (D minor) (0:07 - M1) 0:34 - Subject 1 (D minor) (0:34 - M2; 0:43 - M3) 1:08 - Transition; (1:08 - M4; 1:19 - M5; 1:25 - M4) 1:33 - Subject 2 (C major) 1:55 - Closing with M1 Development 2:12 - M2 2:27 - M3 2:31 - M2 Recapitulation 2:50 - Transition (yes, no recapitulation of the first subject) (2:50 - M4; 3:09 - M5; 3:13 - M4; 3:17 - short burst of M2) 3:23 - Subject 2 (D major) 3:46 - Closing with M1 Coda 4:10 - M1 4:13 - M3 4:21 - M2 in augmented triads 4:25 - glissando to the end.
This is as crisp and as clear as the first winter's morning. Even his trills are distinct. This has to be one of the best three. (The others are by Horowitz & Argerich. Each has unique quality that I like. Horowitz for the basses. Argerich for her ferocity)
Argerich doesn't measure her ferocity. it should be left to the end. she's very intense right from the beginning, but then the end is frustrating because she's already at her limit of tempo, forte and intensity right from the beginning... it sounds as an anti climax.
It is clear to me that 99% of the interpretations I have heard thus far are pianists who play this piece much too quickly. In this recording, Abdel brings out many many subtle nuances that are unfortunately just not present in other renderings, which is a real disservice to the composer, and ultimately to the listener. This interpretation is spectacular.
I think that this is my favorite interpretation because of how clear and crisp the notes are. A lot of the other interpretations are too fast, and that can make the notes sound a bit muddy
Funny you said that, as I listened to the first note and said “nope” this isn’t it. It’s marked pp and whoever this person is is playing at least mf. Ignoring essential dynamics is not acceptable for a correct interpretation. Why does he play it so loud to start out?
Actually, it’s a blast to play, and a LOT easier to pull off than the Robert Schumann Toccata, but it will drive other people in the house crazy as you are learning it and committing it to memory, measure by measure. I learned it by playing, and mastering, two measures a day of its chromatic sections. I really had it down for recital in about six weeks or so when I was 16 but in the end never performed it. (Played Prokofieff #3 with an orchestra instead.)
Hot damn what a performance.. I'm just amazed at the clarity of his playing. A lesser being would turn this into a wall of sound but he maintains his composure throughout.... impressive to say the least!
I love the clarity and precision. Often the trills and accuracy are sacrificed in favor of speed, but this piece is so much more effective this way. Will definitely be listening to more el Bacha.
I am so in awe of pianists who can play this. I have my associate performer's diploma, but I wouldn't even attempt it! Glad I didn't have ambitions to be a concert pianist.
Best I’ve heard, especially clean articulated trills, and well accented , also excellent tempo and voicing ( not a pyrotechnic unclear usual version). Have high regard for this artist.
I absolutely love this. Just discovered this piece listening to Rick Beato talk of world renowned pianist Martha Argerich which sent me down the YT rabbit hole of Argerich videos...and thus her playing Prokofiev. Genius!!
Very clear interpretation, all voices very clear and not even a sound over another. I´ve never heard a pianist touch like this with Prokofiev I still prefer Argerich, she does not have a clear touch like this, but it´s more mad and full of energy, it´s an explosion! I think her way is closer to what Prokofiev was thinking when writing this music
Wrong. That Chinese dude is the best, the one they once pulled off TH-cam and then some guy uploaded again. Even though he screwed up the very last goddamn D
I was at a local piano competition last week and out walks this small frail looking 12 year old Japanese kid. Sits down and knocks the socks off this thing. sigh.....How it didn't break him in half I have no idea. (maybe not quite as good as this interpretation but still very very good).
Durante su permanencia en el conservatorio de música, decían que Prokofiev caminaba como un trenecito frenético, moviendo alocadamente su cabeza, esta composición sería un fiel retrato de su andar
God I love Prokofiev so much. To me, this toccata sounds like a giant industrial factory with large, whirring gears, flaming coal engines, and steam valves. Also kinda reminds me of a train lol (I sense inklings of resemblance to Alkan’s Le Chemin De Fer, if only in feel/emotion)
when ur vibin but there's so many notes they need both of the treble clef's space and bass clef to fully list all the notes you need to play in one spot
I attempted to play this but it gave me injuries and I couldn't get through the whole thing. I also got my associate diploma and didn't do this for the exam lol...was going to play this for my FIRST undergrad recital too!
Classic Prokofiev in this piece. The leading motive seems to be the 8-note sixteenth note pattern, which I coin the "Rubber baby buggy bumpers" theme, because it sounds just like you are singing this famous tongue-twisting phrase. That theme from the "Toccata" is likely the hook of the whole pianistic showpiece.
This piece is an absolute genius combination of melody and geometrics of the keyboard (d to D can be mirrored on a central note g#, the melody is symmetric) embellished by chromatic progression (that also has symmetry). Extremely structured and "simple" once you have had 50 years of solid practice. It's a shame that virtuosity has become a battle of speed rather than listening pleasure. This is one performance I enjoyed hearing all the notes. (I wonder how many would succeed in creating a masterful performance at half speed?)
Крутейше! Темп самый-самый! Конечно, многие пианисты демонстрипуют более высокую скорость. Но когда играют быстрее, то теряются "мелодические слои". А тут - все отточено, слышно каждый голос...Фантастическая музыка и наилучшее, на мой взгляд, исполнение! Слушаю-не наслушаюсь. ❤❤❤
Cette musique se déplie comme un livre d'images plein d'étoiles, où viennent filer les oiseaux, tourner les farandoles, claquer les crécelles et danser les sorciers🌺 De rondes en comptines, les arrangements étalent leur mystère et les instruments ont la rondeur et le brillant des carillons
This piece has the prowess of Prokofiev. And should i say that he has somewhat of a master of transitions and recapitulations, in a way that feels organic and classical? When his whim indicated (especially in later life - a shame, as I prefer his younger works), he interrupted the aura. But when he as a "lad" wanted to make a clever yet organic transition, he did it well. I like his funnily mad melodies and counter-melodies and inventive, deconstructed voicings in this piece... the revving machines, everything that characterizes him, interistingly balanced.
I've heard many renditions of this demonic piece. Yet here, a pianist I've never heard of, is, for me, among the best two or three. Prokofiev, after the lyrical and emotional romantic period, wanted to restore the percussive aspects of the piano. This performance emphasises the strictly rhythmic and percussive .
Agree entirely with your assessment of the performance, but the Romantic period wasn't all lyrical and emotional, and Liszt was already exploring the percussive effects of the piano in the mid-19th century (see Totentanz's opening, for example, or, later, the Csárdás Macabre).
Dentist: Prokofiev, my clients have a problem opening their mouths for 4 mins 30 secs straight.
Prokofiev:
Lol! : )
@@pianogang2273 hi
😂😂😂
Maybe I am crazy, but I always get the feeling that Prokofiev was laughing like a madman when he wrote this.
PointyTailofSatan oh my god yes
I can also imagine that😂
PointyTailofSatan I can almost hear the evil cackle
Definitely
well you should know his Violin pieces , man hated people with small hands .
Rahman el Bacha played this way better than any Pianist I heard. Even Yuja cant play this as good as him. She and other pianists tend to rush and show off their technique, but Rahman el Bacha paid respect to the piece by showing so much more details that were missing from other pianists. It is not how fast you can play this...but how much you can evoke out of it.
Well done Rahman el Bacha !
Y Wang lighter , above the key-board no technic exercice but a composition as a masterpiece . To day it's Y Wang in Prokofiev j live vzry well V Aschnenazy in Prokofiev-concertis . Here it's a good exam by a studient of a Conservatoire no more
@@alainspiteri502 yeah right. Try again. This is musicality at its finest.
@@alainspiteri502 Could not disagree more. Wang totally misses the swing this piece needs. She is amazing but doesn't know what Prokofiev is all about
@@marcvdm1111 j don't understand what you mean when you write " swing " ? except J S Bach all Toccata seems more exercices than pieces of music ; all toccatas are in CNMDP - examens ( j had Czerny op-92 very far from to day ) , so no difference Between hundreds and hundreds recordings Prokofiev Toccata , don't look for a melody when there is none , it's better for you , in first technic only technic with all Toccatas except Bach j repeat .
Emil Gilels also gets it, doesnt speedrun the piece like Yuja Wang or Martha Argerich. Maybe Im just salty I cant play as fast as them but find Ragman el Bacha's tempo very achievable (Im also learning this Toccata, hellish, but honestly could be worse...)
Every note is so distinct. Incredible.
Terry P Truly remarkable, isn't it?
Amazing. My vocabulary fails me.
Terry P Right? Potentially the cleanest performance I've ever heard. It's lacking a little of the fire that Argerich/Horowitz bring to it, but man, what an absolutely rock-solid technique.
Despite the lack of fire, I think this performance feels more inevitable for its clarity.
Yes! Better than Yuja Wang; her version is more quick but is not so clear musically like this.
this is how to play a crescendo - 4:10
Fancy seeing you here!
***** we have similar tastes in piano music, as long as its bloody difficult and has lots of notes lol
+Mark Fowler not really...
***** the crescendo? not really. I've witnessed far more wider dynamic range than this.
Fanchen Piano I agree. There are much more impressive examples. Like pogorelich's scarbo. If you use one volume for the entire piece, you can barely hear the beginning but the climax is so loud it's unbearable.
Best Toccata ever written.
Fantastic, clear performance. Not too sped up, either. Relatively restrained and beautifully articulated. Phenomenal.
I can't think of a more exciting "toccata" in the piano literature.
Check out Nikolai Kapustin's Piano Concert Etude Op. 40 No. 3. It's also very exciting in a totally other way.
Or the last movement of Prokofiev's 7th sonata?
Yes, Kapustin's #3 and Ravel's from Le Tombeau de Couperin are the only two I've found that are as exciting, in totally different ways, than this masterpiece.
Gary Schmidt lagidze's rondo toccata!
The Debussy, perhaps. The Ravel, perhaps. Even -- dare I say it? -- The Khachaturian, perhaps.
I actually performed this piece last night in Berlin. When I woke up, I was on the floor banging my hands against the foot board after falling off the bed......
Funny.
belonging i an institution
......deb
THE best performance of this song I've ever heard, I think it perfectly reflects the way prokofiew wanted it to be played.Incredible
I can imagine prokofiev sitting at the piano improvising this and having fun. What I can't even think about is him writing it down for the pianists to come
Took me years (I played this, not too well, at 15) to realise that this is in sonata form wow. Here is my analysis, where M stands for motif:
Exposition
0:00 - Title screen
0:07 - Introduction (D minor)
(0:07 - M1)
0:34 - Subject 1 (D minor)
(0:34 - M2; 0:43 - M3)
1:08 - Transition;
(1:08 - M4; 1:19 - M5; 1:25 - M4)
1:33 - Subject 2 (C major)
1:55 - Closing with M1
Development
2:12 - M2
2:27 - M3
2:31 - M2
Recapitulation
2:50 - Transition (yes, no recapitulation of the first subject)
(2:50 - M4; 3:09 - M5; 3:13 - M4; 3:17 - short burst of M2)
3:23 - Subject 2 (D major)
3:46 - Closing with M1
Coda
4:10 - M1
4:13 - M3
4:21 - M2 in augmented triads
4:25 - glissando to the end.
Thank you so much for sharing your analysis!
I'm surprised Prokofiev actually left a key signature for this piece.
all Coposers Toccatas j think no only S P
It’s not atonal
@@TheLifeisgood72 definitely not, but still VERY chromatic. But hey, it's one flat anyway lol
key signature was meant as a "joke"
This is as crisp and as clear as the first winter's morning.
Even his trills are distinct.
This has to be one of the best three. (The others are by Horowitz & Argerich. Each has unique quality that I like. Horowitz for the basses. Argerich for her ferocity)
I agree,I have been listening to this piece for many years now and it was like a new piece when i heard this man play !!
Argerich doesn't measure her ferocity. it should be left to the end. she's very intense right from the beginning, but then the end is frustrating because she's already at her limit of tempo, forte and intensity right from the beginning... it sounds as an anti climax.
Raekallio's is incredible as well
Yuja Wang is the best one imo
Each is their own, for sure. I love the different interpretations. Argerich uses the sustain pedal to dramatic effect. Love it!
Потрясающее исполнение,никакой гонки,респектище за такую выдержку и то,что ниточка не пгтерялась до самого конца.
It is clear to me that 99% of the interpretations I have heard thus far are pianists who play this piece much too quickly. In this recording, Abdel brings out many many subtle nuances that are unfortunately just not present in other renderings, which is a real disservice to the composer, and ultimately to the listener. This interpretation is spectacular.
I think that this is my favorite interpretation because of how clear and crisp the notes are. A lot of the other interpretations are too fast, and that can make the notes sound a bit muddy
other performances (notably Juya Wang which is amazing) miss one thing that this performance has - swing.
If it could be said that there"s a "definitive" performance of this difficult work, then here it is, with no question.
Funny you said that, as I listened to the first note and said “nope” this isn’t it. It’s marked pp and whoever this person is is playing at least mf. Ignoring essential dynamics is not acceptable for a correct interpretation. Why does he play it so loud to start out?
this must be utter hell to practise
It is.
Actually, it’s a blast to play, and a LOT easier to pull off than the Robert Schumann Toccata, but it will drive other people in the house crazy as you are learning it and committing it to memory, measure by measure. I learned it by playing, and mastering, two measures a day of its chromatic sections. I really had it down for recital in about six weeks or so when I was 16 but in the end never performed it. (Played Prokofieff #3 with an orchestra instead.)
@@davidmehnert6206 prokofiev 3 instead of his d minor toccata? Interesting substitute
@@Noah-wv4td My mistake, still interesting to play a 30 minute piece with orchestra instead of a 6-7 piano solo piece
There are parts to this piece that are repetitive, which makes it easier to learn and memorize, and it's very fun to play when you get it down!
Hot damn what a performance.. I'm just amazed at the clarity of his playing. A lesser being would turn this into a wall of sound but he maintains his composure throughout.... impressive to say the least!
2:11 sounds so great! It's like walking in the woods at night!
That's a perfect description
The cleanest/best version on TH-cam.
I programmed this piece early in my career and trust me... It's a lot of work but it's very much worth it in the end.
I love the clarity and precision. Often the trills and accuracy are sacrificed in favor of speed, but this piece is so much more effective this way. Will definitely be listening to more el Bacha.
The beginning could be the beginning of a boss battle theme.
'-' Arroz picado? Kkkkkk
@@Tizohip kk
Should i add it to one of my games as music
th-cam.com/video/82T95R-N5h4/w-d-xo.html
1:32 so funny how Prokofiev makes a C major scale sound like that with all of the things on top
Never even heard of this piece, but that performance was just absolutely brilliant!
1:20 3:10 I absolutely love how clear these tremolos are. I had never heard it played the way it's actually written.
I am so in awe of pianists who can play this. I have my associate performer's diploma, but I wouldn't even attempt it! Glad I didn't have ambitions to be a concert pianist.
This sitting in the ARCT casually:
This is my new favorite recording!!
Потрясающая и музыка и её исполнение!! Браво!!!
Strangely addictive! Epic ending
Best I’ve heard, especially clean articulated trills, and well accented , also excellent tempo and voicing ( not a pyrotechnic unclear usual version). Have high regard for this artist.
It's like "Suggestion diabolique" had a father.
I absolutely love this. Just discovered this piece listening to Rick Beato talk of world renowned pianist Martha Argerich which sent me down the YT rabbit hole of Argerich videos...and thus her playing Prokofiev. Genius!!
Grandfather of speed metal
Very clear interpretation, all voices very clear and not even a sound over another. I´ve never heard a pianist touch like this with Prokofiev
I still prefer Argerich, she does not have a clear touch like this, but it´s more mad and full of energy, it´s an explosion! I think her way is closer to what Prokofiev was thinking when writing this music
Wrong. That Chinese dude is the best, the one they once pulled off TH-cam and then some guy uploaded again.
Even though he screwed up the very last goddamn D
This one. th-cam.com/video/brbOIKAIGZA/w-d-xo.html
Argerich does something else, not what Prokofiev ment. Well, who the hell knows what who ever ment))))
Try Horowitz.
I feel accomplished just being able to listen to this! Imagine composing this...
Ça doit être un enfer à jouer...
Belle clarté des différents plans sonores!
Super!
The last common ancestor of such distinct lineages as Meshuggah and Phillip Glass, progenitor of my nightmares
Fantastic, musical, and very interesting emphasis and accents on phrases and sections that often times one can't even hear.
This is the authentic way to play prokofiev
I was at a local piano competition last week and out walks this small frail looking 12 year old Japanese kid. Sits down and knocks the socks off this thing. sigh.....How it didn't break him in half I have no idea. (maybe not quite as good as this interpretation but still very very good).
I have heard incredible performances of this piece, but this particular one makes me feel I am hearing as Prokofiev intended it to be
Prokofiev: "Hey Liszt, try this one on for size"!!!
It fits
Franz Liszt prime response
@@franzliszt3393 lmao
el Bachan's technique is brilliant without being messy.
He played like a Genius!! Amaziiing!
I swear to god I cry 80% of the time I hear this
Amazing performance!
Oh my God IT IS SO CLEAR!!!!! O.O
Oh, your god!! ;)
such a cool piece
this sounds like a 20th century anthem with its furious rhythm and domination of technocracy.
Great performance of a monstrous piece.
Durante su permanencia en el conservatorio de música, decían que Prokofiev caminaba como un trenecito frenético, moviendo alocadamente su cabeza, esta composición sería un fiel retrato de su andar
Wonderful performance, dramatic and very clear. Love it!
God I love Prokofiev so much. To me, this toccata sounds like a giant industrial factory with large, whirring gears, flaming coal engines, and steam valves. Also kinda reminds me of a train lol (I sense inklings of resemblance to Alkan’s Le Chemin De Fer, if only in feel/emotion)
Jack Curley it reminded me of a train too
This piece just sounds so… unique.
Prokofiev is a genius monster
02:35 That bass drop though
Amazing !
I love this piece.
Those thrills...Best recording ever of this masterpiece, imho.
I christen this piece Σίσυφος! Great performance by the way!
this piece is badass
JOKER was the BATMAN's enemy. If Joker has a composer who can compose music for him, Prokofiev will be the perfect choice.
Fabulous! Wow! The best I've ever-ever heard - in every way! Thanks for the posting.
when ur vibin but there's so many notes they need both of the treble clef's space and bass clef to fully list all the notes you need to play in one spot
Wonderfully controlled performance. And yes, (in answer to Christine Tan below) it is REALLY hard to play. I've never succeeded...! : )
I attempted to play this but it gave me injuries and I couldn't get through the whole thing. I also got my associate diploma and didn't do this for the exam lol...was going to play this for my FIRST undergrad recital too!
You are very brave! I'm sorry about your injuries :( Did you eventually manage to play it?
It sounds like my ceiling fan
Daniel C that's uncannily accurate
Classic Prokofiev in this piece. The leading motive seems to be the 8-note sixteenth note pattern, which I coin the "Rubber baby buggy bumpers" theme, because it sounds just like you are singing this famous tongue-twisting phrase. That theme from the "Toccata" is likely the hook of the whole pianistic showpiece.
So incredible!!
Thank you for this! It makes my heart soar.
Thanks for uploading!
Это ,вообще,что то потрясающее!! Прокофьев !!!! Исполнение не менее потрясающее!
Elmira Muradova из того что на ютубе, по-моему, лучшее.
Naše civilizace - velkoměsta, expanze lidstva jako vyšitá... Dík, skvěle podáno. Skvěle! Zdravím z České republiky.
Вот это гениально, я понимаю.
This piece is an absolute genius combination of melody and geometrics of the keyboard (d to D can be mirrored on a central note g#, the melody is symmetric) embellished by chromatic progression (that also has symmetry). Extremely structured and "simple" once you have had 50 years of solid practice.
It's a shame that virtuosity has become a battle of speed rather than listening pleasure. This is one performance I enjoyed hearing all the notes.
(I wonder how many would succeed in creating a masterful performance at half speed?)
If you want to play fast, just add extra embellishments as was the practice in the baroque.
Wow!
The song was very strict and powerful feeling!
Quite often, I find myself humming this piece on my morning drive to work!!!
Bravo!!!
Astonishing precision! I love this performance! :-)
Крутейше! Темп самый-самый! Конечно, многие пианисты демонстрипуют более высокую скорость. Но когда играют быстрее, то теряются "мелодические слои". А тут - все отточено, слышно каждый голос...Фантастическая музыка и наилучшее, на мой взгляд, исполнение! Слушаю-не наслушаюсь. ❤❤❤
Cette musique se déplie comme un livre d'images plein d'étoiles, où viennent filer les oiseaux, tourner les farandoles, claquer les crécelles et danser les sorciers🌺 De rondes en comptines, les arrangements étalent leur mystère et les instruments ont la rondeur et le brillant des carillons
im not sure what on Earth Phantom is conjuring up this year but i like it #Dci2016
3:17 sexiness
Dude, this is hardstyle....Anyone listening to this in 2020? I am, dammit!
The original "Devil's Staircase"
FINAL BOSS
Greetings from Jazznet Spandau!
Best exemple of Laughing in Despair
This piece has the prowess of Prokofiev. And should i say that he has somewhat of a master of transitions and recapitulations, in a way that feels organic and classical? When his whim indicated (especially in later life - a shame, as I prefer his younger works), he interrupted the aura. But when he as a "lad" wanted to make a clever yet organic transition, he did it well. I like his funnily mad melodies and counter-melodies and inventive, deconstructed voicings in this piece... the revving machines, everything that characterizes him, interistingly balanced.
I've heard many renditions of this demonic piece. Yet here, a pianist I've never heard of, is, for me, among the best two or three. Prokofiev, after the lyrical and emotional romantic period, wanted to restore the percussive aspects of the piano. This performance emphasises the strictly rhythmic and percussive .
Agree entirely with your assessment of the performance, but the Romantic period wasn't all lyrical and emotional, and Liszt was already exploring the percussive effects of the piano in the mid-19th century (see Totentanz's opening, for example, or, later, the Csárdás Macabre).
Awesome!
Sorry for my language, but un-fucking-believable!!!
I wish I could’ve been taught this.
wow...that was terrifyingly difficult
When I hear this I think Yuja Wang. She does a great job with this. Well with everything actually.
When i took part in prokofiev competition in Donetsk (ukraine) where he was born, i ve heard a lot of great toccata's perfomances
Great performance!
Don't you just love those big fat chords!
A kind of duality with John Cage's 4'33''