I’m PISSED. I bought 3 copies that I now know are FAKE, and one of them wasn’t even signed! It had the art card but NO signature. I have lost so much respect for Jon. There’s no way he didn’t know about this.
I received two of the autopenned art cards. I've contacted customer service and first they tried to say they were real then just sent me a return label. I offered to send them a self addressed stamped envelope with the autopenned art cards for them to send me legitimate ones. I want the CDs AND the real signatures I was told I'd receive. Hopefully we get some sort of resolution and not just a refund.
you aint getting real ones, as the fools selling them think the autopens are real. Guess they got duped into thinking they were selling real signatures too.
@@chrisrupe3244 well if he addresses it the worse it will get for him. So he will just ignore it. Same as 2019 when he ignored complaints about his voice.
Hey I got a question that I’m hoping a long time Bon Jovi fan knows the answer to. Does anyone know why Jon never performs his song Miracle live? It’s my favorite song of his and I like it much more than Blaze of Glory. I’ve always wondered this.
Probably because it's a solo song; and the only solo song he ever performs with the band is Blaze of Glory, and even that hasn't been played in a long time. Also, there are tons of great Bon Jovi songs they just never play live... I wish they would play with more variety but that's how it is.
I don't understand why a 400 million dollar net worth guy would do this just for more money, he said in the documentary that if he is not at his 100% he will retire, clearly he is not and let's see if he keeps his word or if he wants more money from the tour...
Here, backing track didn’t start from the beginning of the song and he acts like clown for whole performance dancing and hanging around. When he sings live he stick to the micro stand and doesn’t move during prayer on 2022 tour. th-cam.com/video/BIXBVLDCL_E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4jNbrHXWKDtG7sod
@@sensitivity7207 ah yes. A backing track after lowering the key and it doesn't even sound good. I do vaguely remember this. You can tell by his acting.
Just looked at mine from the 2020 album. Looks genuine. No sudden stops. Comparing it others, where the pen crosses over certain parts of its signature are different. But then again, I guess Jon didnt have much to do in 2020...
I don't know if i can handle this. Sometimes i can't figure out what the hell jon thinks... But 5:57 that's very important. We know that he became his own menager but i think that in the marketing field he has somebody that works on this things. But anyway... He should know what happens... He's the boss As you said, the big question is hoe and ( 6:56 ) i don't know which answer i would prefear
This is why I think alot of the vocals show these songs are older. Like done around burning bridges this house is not for sale. His voice is pretty strong but not in Nashville the other night.
I agree. On some songs you can hear the raspiness that comes hand in hand with the surgery. On others he sounds really good. Then again, never underestimate the trickery John Shanks could be up to behind the scenes.
@@MaximilianGorisch I'm not sure. I just know I wish he would move on from shanks, get a different producer, it would make things fresh. He is just hung up on him. I would like to see a Greg fidelmen produced album.
Funny enough I bought an autographed Alice Cooper “School’s Out” re-issue LP and “Road” last summer and they said signed. I bought them because they were signed but all I got was an insert with maybe a genuine autograph. I wanted what was described as a signed LP.
The only thing i can think is maybe Jon did sign x amount of copies but the label had an autopen sign more...idk how likely that is but i would hope something like that was the case. The other thing is that the signed copies were like the same price, so what's even the point of the autopen at that point?
I guess it was just easier to use the auto pen and it was always about getting the album as close to number one as possible while Job having to sign as little CDs as possible
The whole point was to sell more albums and boost their chart position. Keeping the supposedly "signed" CDs/LPs makes perfect sense in that case. I know people, and have read comments from people online, who bought multiple copies of the "signed" releases to give as gifts (or sell, lol)
I feel like such a fool for ordering that as soon as I saw it quite a while ago. Truly believing it would be legit. 😢 Just to get this, with the little picture of the cover of the CD, supposedly signed. When it truly does not look like it is at all. I would send you a picture of mine if I knew how to. Btw, I want to tell you, you're not some nobody telling FACTS, while Jon (who had to know about it one way or the other) lies to the fans. First they start charging an arm, leg, promise of your first born, ETC... Just to get to any decent seat in their concert, then this? This is really so disappointing.
the fact it was same price as the usual cd i knew it would be fake, as why would jon sign thousands of cds for free, i think he did a few hundred. Then said thats enough.
People who buy this shite for the ears should only buy autographs. You can look @ signatures without hearing bad music. Thats great 😂. Wooohoooh oh oh oh oh whooo ooooh
You have to be kidding.. what do you think signed means? We assume it's a machine? When you need to a signature, do you say "please handsign this..".. no.. they showed a photo of Jon signing a bunch of CDs. Who assumes "signed" means signed by a machine?? Since when does it have to say "hand signed"?? This is a total scam.
Don't understand how people are shocked these are fake, When he was charging the same price as the non signed cds. Was obvious they were trying to just push the album sales up to tey and get number 1. I know it is a con but i am amazed how many people fell for it. As all i saw when they were sold was that they were signed cds. I know some shops told people they were hand signed but i didn't see them promoted as hand signed. Yet the use of Jon signing the cd was to trick people into buying them no doubt. A hand signed cd should cost more than the same price as a non signed cd, I am sure if he had hand signed every single cd they would have sold them for a lot more money.
If they're advertised as signed with a photo of him signing hundreds of copies sold directly from the Bon Jovi website, I can't blame any one for expecting them to be legit. I didn't buy one of the signed copies, because I like to buy it in person at the store on release day. But I did buy the signed poster back in 2020.. I guess I better check it out and make sure it's legit!
Number one at 50,000 copies with some signed. Not impressive by bon Jovi standards. Fan since 85, have still bought albums after Richie yes. But stopped when 2020 came out. Didn't get it, listened to Forever full album but it's just another shanks produced influenced album. I can't get into it.
@@EriksHouse Exactly. Why sell them as something they're not? They should have put them a sticker with Jon's signature and sell them as albums with stickers. Simple as that. The fact some people check out the price and realize it's not a legit signature has nothing to do with the mistake of selling those CD's as something they're not. Period.
At this point I’m really afraid Bon Jovi will turn out to be the next KISS. The evidence is there: lip syncing, scamming their fans, being only in it for the money… dude used to be my hero, now I only find him embarrassing.
Seems like that's where he's headed, I was a huge Kiss fan for many years and still cherish the memories of when they were great, but the last 20 years of the band's existence was painful to watch.
Yes they are more valuable.. so when you sell something fake for cheaper to make more money.. that's called a scam. Jon doesn't have to offer signed CDs at all..
I’m PISSED. I bought 3 copies that I now know are FAKE, and one of them wasn’t even signed! It had the art card but NO signature. I have lost so much respect for Jon. There’s no way he didn’t know about this.
Ive-even-heard-UltimateWarrior-had-someone-forge-his-sig-on-belts-the-last-2/3yrs-he-lived......alleged-he-was-too-lazy-to-sign-them. Shame-on-celebs-who-do-this-to-paying-fans
I don't understand why Jovi has not addressed the issue as of 7/18.
Because he would rather just hope it go away then admit he lied and knew about it
Don't expect him to ever address this.
@@ticatcrash this-is-like-conventions......they-say-celebs-not-aware-what-price-they-charge......lol,theyre-fully-aware-how-much-they-charge-at-cons
He knows. He isn't stupid. Nothing is getting past him.
I received two of the autopenned art cards. I've contacted customer service and first they tried to say they were real then just sent me a return label. I offered to send them a self addressed stamped envelope with the autopenned art cards for them to send me legitimate ones. I want the CDs AND the real signatures I was told I'd receive. Hopefully we get some sort of resolution and not just a refund.
you aint getting real ones, as the fools selling them think the autopens are real. Guess they got duped into thinking they were selling real signatures too.
@@MystifyMe97 This whole thing is unfortunate. The longer it's went unaddressed the worse it gets in my opinion.
@@chrisrupe3244 well if he addresses it the worse it will get for him. So he will just ignore it. Same as 2019 when he ignored complaints about his voice.
I bought 2. They are being returned.
Of course he knew about it
Yes
Bon Jovi = Money. Period
Hey I got a question that I’m hoping a long time Bon Jovi fan knows the answer to. Does anyone know why Jon never performs his song Miracle live? It’s my favorite song of his and I like it much more than Blaze of Glory. I’ve always wondered this.
Probably because it's a solo song; and the only solo song he ever performs with the band is Blaze of Glory, and even that hasn't been played in a long time. Also, there are tons of great Bon Jovi songs they just never play live... I wish they would play with more variety but that's how it is.
I think something with a bob dylan book, thing happen like this
I don't understand why a 400 million dollar net worth guy would do this just for more money, he said in the documentary that if he is not at his 100% he will retire, clearly he is not and let's see if he keeps his word or if he wants more money from the tour...
i think it was more about pushing the album to number one in more countries, not about money. Was about his ego wanting it to be higher on the charts.
Listen to the money talk.
When did he lip sing Livin on a prayer in 2022? I dont recall that at all.
Here, backing track didn’t start from the beginning of the song and he acts like clown for whole performance dancing and hanging around. When he sings live he stick to the micro stand and doesn’t move during prayer on 2022 tour.
th-cam.com/video/BIXBVLDCL_E/w-d-xo.htmlsi=4jNbrHXWKDtG7sod
@@sensitivity7207 ah yes. A backing track after lowering the key and it doesn't even sound good. I do vaguely remember this. You can tell by his acting.
Just looked at mine from the 2020 album. Looks genuine. No sudden stops. Comparing it others, where the pen crosses over certain parts of its signature are different. But then again, I guess Jon didnt have much to do in 2020...
yeah, mine from 2020 looks genuine too
can't believe he'd lie to me.....
7:56 ok, but the point, at least for me, that mad their music special is that the people behind it felt special... Now what should i think?
I don't know if i can handle this. Sometimes i can't figure out what the hell jon thinks...
But 5:57 that's very important. We know that he became his own menager but i think that in the marketing field he has somebody that works on this things. But anyway... He should know what happens... He's the boss
As you said, the big question is hoe and ( 6:56 ) i don't know which answer i would prefear
that is AI tech what next ...? AI music with vocals and music
This is why I think alot of the vocals show these songs are older. Like done around burning bridges this house is not for sale. His voice is pretty strong but not in Nashville the other night.
I agree. On some songs you can hear the raspiness that comes hand in hand with the surgery. On others he sounds really good. Then again, never underestimate the trickery John Shanks could be up to behind the scenes.
@@Sebastian-zx5ei and with ai who knows, fake autograph fake vocals?
I don‘t think so you can hear a lot of Studio Maggi going on
@@MaximilianGorisch I'm not sure. I just know I wish he would move on from shanks, get a different producer, it would make things fresh. He is just hung up on him. I would like to see a Greg fidelmen produced album.
I got jackyl cd's and yes they actually signed them. And live DVD. Not big like bon Jovi but they are honest with the fans. From their website.
Funny enough I bought an autographed Alice Cooper “School’s Out” re-issue LP and “Road” last summer and they said signed. I bought them because they were signed but all I got was an insert with maybe a genuine autograph. I wanted what was described as a signed LP.
The only thing i can think is maybe Jon did sign x amount of copies but the label had an autopen sign more...idk how likely that is but i would hope something like that was the case. The other thing is that the signed copies were like the same price, so what's even the point of the autopen at that point?
I guess it was just easier to use the auto pen and it was always about getting the album as close to number one as possible while Job having to sign as little CDs as possible
The whole point was to sell more albums and boost their chart position. Keeping the supposedly "signed" CDs/LPs makes perfect sense in that case. I know people, and have read comments from people online, who bought multiple copies of the "signed" releases to give as gifts (or sell, lol)
*keeping them the same price* I meant ;p
Honestly based on there being real ones too, seems like he started but then gave up
Now jelly roll is doing this 😢
I bought 2 because we thought it was legit!
I guess some are real and some are autopen. Unfortunately I got an autopen one. I have autographs of other stars and I know those others are real.
I feel like such a fool for ordering that as soon as I saw it quite a while ago. Truly believing it would be legit. 😢 Just to get this, with the little picture of the cover of the CD, supposedly signed. When it truly does not look like it is at all. I would send you a picture of mine if I knew how to.
Btw, I want to tell you, you're not some nobody telling FACTS, while Jon (who had to know about it one way or the other) lies to the fans. First they start charging an arm, leg, promise of your first born, ETC... Just to get to any decent seat in their concert, then this?
This is really so disappointing.
the fact it was same price as the usual cd i knew it would be fake, as why would jon sign thousands of cds for free, i think he did a few hundred. Then said thats
enough.
People who buy this shite for the ears should only buy autographs.
You can look @ signatures without hearing bad music.
Thats great 😂.
Wooohoooh oh oh oh oh whooo ooooh
7:13 i Remember you reading my comment under the video of that performance...
And once again "andrea casazza is (almost) completely betrayed"
ofcourse they are made by machines..ya think he's gonna hand sign 'm all ?? please.
Maybe don't sell them then.. that's a scam.
@@HummBabyBaseball they said signed..not handsigned.
@rubenterlouw7746 come on.. with a photo of Jon signing thousands of CDs.. no way you're defending this. Who sees "signed" and thinks autopenned???
@@HummBabyBaseball HollywoodShow-also-sell-autopenned-sigs.....just-look-at-Meriwethers,they-lack-proper-flow&too-stilted.......several-forgers-have-also-sold-at-HS-cons
I've added the new album on Spotify. Didn't bother getting a CD copy
It says signed not hand signed!
You have to be kidding.. what do you think signed means? We assume it's a machine? When you need to a signature, do you say "please handsign this..".. no.. they showed a photo of Jon signing a bunch of CDs. Who assumes "signed" means signed by a machine?? Since when does it have to say "hand signed"?? This is a total scam.
1 x Signed Art Card Insert Signed By Jon Bon Jovi…. From the website
Don't understand how people are shocked these are fake, When he was charging the same price as the non signed cds. Was obvious they were trying to just push the album sales up to tey and get number 1. I know it is a con but i am amazed how many people fell for it. As all i saw when they were sold was that they were signed cds. I know some shops told people they were hand signed but i didn't see them promoted as hand signed. Yet the use of Jon signing the cd was to trick people into buying them no doubt. A hand signed cd should cost more than the same price as a non signed cd, I am sure if he had hand signed every single cd they would have sold them for a lot more money.
If they're advertised as signed with a photo of him signing hundreds of copies sold directly from the Bon Jovi website, I can't blame any one for expecting them to be legit. I didn't buy one of the signed copies, because I like to buy it in person at the store on release day. But I did buy the signed poster back in 2020.. I guess I better check it out and make sure it's legit!
i think exactly the same! I couldn't have said it better
Number one at 50,000 copies with some signed. Not impressive by bon Jovi standards. Fan since 85, have still bought albums after Richie yes. But stopped when 2020 came out. Didn't get it, listened to Forever full album but it's just another shanks produced influenced album. I can't get into it.
@@EriksHouse Exactly. Why sell them as something they're not? They should have put them a sticker with Jon's signature and sell them as albums with stickers. Simple as that. The fact some people check out the price and realize it's not a legit signature has nothing to do with the mistake of selling those CD's as something they're not. Period.
@@EriksHouse yes i do get that, but the signed cd being the same price as the non signed cd was a dead giveaway this may not be as it seems.
At this point I’m really afraid Bon Jovi will turn out to be the next KISS. The evidence is there: lip syncing, scamming their fans, being only in it for the money… dude used to be my hero, now I only find him embarrassing.
Seems like that's where he's headed, I was a huge Kiss fan for many years and still cherish the memories of when they were great, but the last 20 years of the band's existence was painful to watch.
Jon is too old to sign those albums, pls give the old dude some consideration. Common, top artists' signatures are way more valuable than those cds...
so don't sell them if you aint going to sign them. Simple.
No one is forcing any one to sell autographed copies.
Yes they are more valuable.. so when you sell something fake for cheaper to make more money.. that's called a scam. Jon doesn't have to offer signed CDs at all..
He's only 62. I'm 71 & don't have any problem signing my name. It even looks the same as it did decades ago.