what happened with Hanya? (Honkai: Star Rail)

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  • เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ธ.ค. 2024
  • at least we can say with certain one of her redeeming factors is that she has a similar appearance as shenhe from Genshin impact
    ..mommy you will be missed
    Twitch - / uwutoshi

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  • @kamiel-rh4pd
    @kamiel-rh4pd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1890

    I think it's entirely valid to have 4* counterparts of 5* characters even if they're released close together. Not everyone can or wants to pull for all 5*s and having an accessible substitute that performs a similar role is helpful for free to play or low spenders.

    • @dazzle810
      @dazzle810 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +149

      And honestly it helps when the 4 star in my opinion has the better design I love hanyas design I thought she was going to be a 5 star and was disappointed when she wasn't still she's so fun for me

    • @nerdynick314
      @nerdynick314 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Man, I was looking at my characters saw Hanya was like, I gotta build her some day. Then realize I'm gonna pull for sparkle next banner 😭

    • @Lunaryasilversky
      @Lunaryasilversky 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i would consider still building hanya if you play a hunt character since her skill point regen is based on single enemy @@nerdynick314

    • @yuunarukami8622
      @yuunarukami8622 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well i would like to make new comment over commenting to existing one but its gonna get less see because i think this is important as the guy that have e5 hanya and e6 of her in incoming sparkle banner. What makes her bad in my opinion is just the burden doesnt count as debuff, if its counted as debuff lets be real she gonna be my to go to for the incoming archeron or heck i can run her with dr. ratio. I also hope that at e6 makes burden can be casted to 2 unit over 1 unit, because e6 really doesnt give any higher utility to her extra 10% is almost nothing when its better to give team more sp and make hanya get to the top faster. for now with her like this she gonna disappear among the sea of butterflies when sparkle come in.

    • @SilentSigns
      @SilentSigns 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      This would make sense if 4-stars were actually accessible, but the acquisition methods are exactly the same as 5-star characters. I'm still using the same currency to invest into the same limited banners, the only difference is instead of getting bonus 4-star characters I'm now worrying about getting 5-stars that I don't want and ruining my potential to get future 5-star characters.
      The Argenti/Ruan Mei banners specifically were particularly brutal, if I didn't want Argenti but I did want one of the supports why would I invest into getting Hanya which has zero guarantees and still takes an average of almost 40 pulls of investing into a 5-star banner and risk getting the unit I don't want when I could just hold onto those pulls and get the superior version with full pity guarantees?

  • @Tartarazine
    @Tartarazine 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2125

    Hanya's downfall was that she came out in a patch where people overlooked the 5 stars

    • @kylehenline3245
      @kylehenline3245 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +316

      Plenty of people who didn't have Fu rolled on huohuo, everyone knew the debuff removal was powerful, just kinda overkill with Fu. The problem was Argenti. Erudition was still viewed skeptically at the time, plus supports have way broader value than another DPS. Add to that the majority of the player base is male and only about 5% of the general population is not hetero, Ruan Mei was simply more fuckable. Way more. He's just some pretty dude with a death wish, this girl is gonna become an Aeon.

    • @BrendenBarlow
      @BrendenBarlow 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      I feel that. Absolutely love argenti though. Pulled for him on my pc and ps5 account😁😊

    • @DKOIsoul
      @DKOIsoul 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +60

      Huohuo was popular. I mean, aoe healer with atk buffs and (small amount of) energy while also scaling on HP including her basic attack. Pretty useful. Plus she's wind. If they put Hanya on that banner then it would have done better and more people would have her but instead she was put on a banner that mostly husbando collectors went for and not even a whole lot of them.
      Hanya on her own just wasn't tempting enough so yeah would have been better off with Huohuo.

    • @Wingedlight-nn4hl
      @Wingedlight-nn4hl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

      @@DKOIsoulI think pairing her with Argenti was a better move since Argent is kinda skill point hungry as he wants to use his skill in order to get stacks of his crit rate buffs and charge his max ult fast and the main selling point of Hanya was that she could manage that and plus she was the same element as Argenti as well so that helped her and even if she was on Huo Huo’s banner it probably wouldn’t have helped her as she probably would’ve been seen as another 4 star on the way to the 5 star.

    • @xArufen
      @xArufen 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +36

      ​@@kylehenline3245 Argenti >> Ruan Mei.

  • @darkshadows4025
    @darkshadows4025 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1685

    She disappeared among the sea of butterflies😞

    • @goldikeys3477
      @goldikeys3477 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +277

      An illusion of the past 😔

    • @fancymustache3793
      @fancymustache3793 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +158

      ​@@goldikeys3477 she witnessed the stars shatter before her 😔

    • @li_narii
      @li_narii 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

      She got told good times never last 😞

    • @po.xrv2
      @po.xrv2 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +128

      The paradise may be unreachable to her. 😢

    • @fohhhthefoxxx
      @fohhhthefoxxx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +127

      Her sanctuary is but a vision 😔

  • @IdeasAreBulletproof
    @IdeasAreBulletproof 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1128

    Hanya's Sole purpose is to be a 4 star version of Sparkle for anyone who Skips Sparkle but wants a SP hungry DPS that releases down the Line (They just can't be non ATK scaling though)
    She was never intended to Beat Tingyun & Bronya but was Hoyo's F2P response to Releasing SP hungry Characters after Hanabi/Sparkle came out.
    and As soon as Ruan Mei Came out. Hanya went into the Irrelevancy chamber.

    • @ethannguyen9638
      @ethannguyen9638 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +66

      Eh I still use her with Dan IL bc I have RM with Kafka BS

    • @Horsaz
      @Horsaz 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

      That's pretty much me right there since I'm going to be skipping Sparkle for a possible Luocha rerun and Sunday in the future.

    • @zolombox1779
      @zolombox1779 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      Nah, she was much better in beta but then they nerfed her too much. That's it, there is no great conspiracy here just poor balancing.

    • @thomasbrown6332
      @thomasbrown6332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Off topic, but bro loucha, fu xuan and huohuo are so needed in this game. I just can’t get jiggly with the other healers. Could it be a skill issue, sure, but fuuuuuk.

    • @sspilex
      @sspilex 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@thomasbrown6332 I would've not cleared floor 12 without huohuo passive healing ngl

  • @duckhuntking153
    @duckhuntking153 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +513

    I met Hanya's voice actor 2 days ago and meeting her gave me the motivation to actually start to build her for my Argenti

    • @alfredbarretto
      @alfredbarretto 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

      she is eula too

    • @hualiantheworld
      @hualiantheworld 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@alfredbarrettono way that is so cool

    • @megugao
      @megugao 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

      ​@@alfredbarrettoboth are forgotten characters too lmao

    • @Samwise_genji
      @Samwise_genji 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Sure thing lil bro ​@@megugao

    • @bribriibribrii
      @bribriibribrii 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      fr xD​@@megugao

  • @kpop_mellow
    @kpop_mellow 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +588

    Hanya is one of my most used support for DHIL along with Tingyun and HuoHuo... But with Sparkle coming in.. idk

    • @Akaneblaze1345
      @Akaneblaze1345 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +72

      Sparkles gonna beat hanya but we know Ruan mei beats all harmony supports atm.

    • @kpop_mellow
      @kpop_mellow 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +32

      @@Akaneblaze1345 i bet she will.. that extended sp limit + free sp 😭 My Hanya’s gonna take her deserved break

    • @HidForHG
      @HidForHG 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      That's the thing tho. Hanya is a 4*. So she can be one more banners more often. Meaning getting her higher than c0 is very likely.
      Though they really should have given a copy out for finishing the spook perma-event. Maybe they will in future and those that finished will just go and collect her. They have slowly added a wider range of free chars. So they can build and give decent odds that all players can do most of the content without massive issues.
      Meaning most if not all players would have her and could use her WAY before they might see ruan mei or sparkle pop up on a banner. Which is always the major limiting factor for the 5*'s. You have to either whale out fast or save up over several banners to have decent odds of just getting the char. Let alone the C's.
      THAT should always be the view of the 4* 'lesser' chars. They are near infinitely more accessible than the 5* variants. Meaning you can get near to better output from them as they are C maxed instead of maybe getting C1 at most, for non whales.

    • @kpop_mellow
      @kpop_mellow 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @@HidForHG i do agree. She's very very useful. I have her @c3 and she rocks... 5 stars will always be 5stars but her value will always be there.

    • @thomasbrown6332
      @thomasbrown6332 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      People are forgetting some people only play their favorite characters. She is good for any sp negative team comp. If some one is running seele and DHIL as their two dps, then having sparkle and Tanya could be useful.

  • @jdssnake
    @jdssnake 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +183

    Don't forget the absolute gutting that her kit got throughout the beta. She was Tingyun level in the first couple weeks then was nerfed and nerfed again.

    • @LeftyPencil
      @LeftyPencil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Arlan again lol

    • @jdssnake
      @jdssnake 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@LeftyPencil Very much so

    • @nchtblut
      @nchtblut 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@LeftyPencilrip

    • @evangelstark496
      @evangelstark496 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What was her kit like?

    • @bribriibribrii
      @bribriibribrii 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      ​@@evangelstark496she was better than Bronya💀

  • @wikidpsycokilla
    @wikidpsycokilla 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +108

    Hanya is one of those units thats unnecessary for whales/meta chasers but extremely useful for the average player. Not many actually got her and you cant say she is bad, so nobody really talks about her. One of her best teams for me is Hanya, Argenti and Bronya. Her speed boost lets my slower Argenti go right before Bronya, and she provides enough sp for both Bronya and Argenti to spam skill every turn. Her ult being single target is actually one of her greatest strengths, letting you skip farming extra relics and saving you from spending an hour on the equip screen trying to get the speed tuning right without sacrificing too many required stats,

    • @lillyie
      @lillyie 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      she should've been one of the free characters since she is basically a 4 star sparkle that can work on sp hungry teams but doesn't have sparkle

  • @Yeahitsjin
    @Yeahitsjin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +285

    Hanya is underrated, I think. ATK and Speed and SP regen are all very valuable, and that’s all wrapped up in a 4 star that can only get better with Eidolons. I don’t think she’ll die just because of Sparkle’s release and I think your affinity for a mono quantum team with her shows quite a bit. Not everyone’s gonna pull for Sparkle and Hanya will be there for those who don’t

    • @eherden2169
      @eherden2169 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      I actually chose to skip Sparkle and save for Acheron because I got lucky getting early a Ruan Mei Lightcone and decided to give it to Hanya. She works even better with high skill consumption teams providing a skill point and buffs every time she ults (with that light cone) and the bleed damage from a 150+ break effect Hanya is nothing to scoff at.

    • @ogrelord3481
      @ogrelord3481 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      I agree I think in most cases the speed buff is gonna be stronger than Asta's (and will especially help characters reach Glamoth breakpoints), but she can also buff Physical characters such as Clara or Argenti even further by using Planetary Rendezvous and Penacony planar set

    • @wongo6828
      @wongo6828 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      His opinions are severely biased. I don't trust a thing or two he says and I stopped watching his content after Argenti's release.

    • @Yeahitsjin
      @Yeahitsjin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@eherden2169 She’s great! I use her with Ruan Mei as well and Dan Heng wipes out enemies like a hot knife through butter.
      Good luck on your Acheron pulls! I hope you get really lucky lol

    • @Yeahitsjin
      @Yeahitsjin 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@ogrelord3481 Yeah!! She’s got value in her rarity for specific teams that, sure, Sparkle could perform in, but not like Hanya can. They’re both good in their own lanes, even if their Path overlaps

  • @DrStunJosh
    @DrStunJosh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +234

    Harmony is the best path and all characters are usable. But Hanya’s single target speed and attack buffs, including a skill that DOESN’T COUNT AS A DEBUFF, make her a hard choice in hypercarry (where you use Tingyun+[Bronya/Yukong]) or dual-DPS (where you use Asta or RM). If Burden counted as a debuff, I think she would’ve been a perfect FuA buffer with T&N + Ratio.

    • @demonitaanghela6966
      @demonitaanghela6966 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      True, I was actually disappointed when I learned that it wasn't a debuff 😢. Literally its name is synonymous to "debuff" but it's not a debuff 😂

    • @niconilo97
      @niconilo97 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's not a debuff ? Damn I thought it was too !

    • @DrStunJosh
      @DrStunJosh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      @@niconilo97 it’s a matter of syntax more than anything. Hanya’s talent (Burden) increases damage “dealt” making it a buff as it actively applies to allies. This is different from Guinaifen’s talent (Firekiss) that increases damage “received” making it a debuff as it actively applies to enemies. I have yet to see a case in HSR where this syntax doesn’t match.

    • @danielcarrilho5217
      @danielcarrilho5217 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Hanya + Yukong is the goated DHIL team atm tho
      And frees up Tingyun for the other side team

    • @DrStunJosh
      @DrStunJosh 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@danielcarrilho5217 Fair, but TY is very good for giving IL his ultimate more quickly too. And if that second team is a dual dps team, you’d like have Ruan Mei (or Asta) covering support there. In the world of Harmony, you’ll find use in different team comps, provided you fit the mold. Hanya’s problem is that, after almost a year, any other Harmony could take a place on a team, not because they can do what she does, but because what they can do is more impactful.
      Mono-element - Asta, Yukong, Sparkle
      Dual dps - Ruan Mei, Asta
      Hypercarry - Tingyun, Bronya, Hanya, Sparkle, Yukong

  • @emred4653
    @emred4653 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +99

    i believe her skill point recovery not being triggered by follow ups caused her to get off of spotlight fast (also burden not counting as debuff).

    • @maxdekudess3354
      @maxdekudess3354 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +30

      Burden not being a debuff is horrible. I was so sure i could use her for ratio topaz even though she didn't buff follow-ups, but the team doesn't have enough debuffs :(

  • @alexandritegreenhouse305
    @alexandritegreenhouse305 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    Hanya (and by extension her sister Xueyi) has my favorite character background of anyone in this game.
    Spoiler Warning for Hanya's backstory (although it can easily be found if you've already pulled her and you look at her character info)
    I read so much of her in-game lore that discussed her trauma and depression and how it's only when she's afforded time to spend with her sister Xueyi, whose death Hanya feels somewhat responsible for (not sure if that's explicitly stated, but it's at least implied), that she feels like life is worth living. Her backstory is so tragic, but she has just the smallest bit of hope through spending time with Xueyi that makes me want to cheer her on! I want so badly to build her because I love her character so much, but I after getting and building Ruan Mei who fits in just about every team, it's difficult to find a place for Hanya to fit in practically speaking. She deserves so much better, both in terms of gameplay and in her story

  • @fuji5400
    @fuji5400 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +92

    small thing i want hanya to have, not really impactful but... i want her skill (Burden) count as Debuff, so that i can atleast pair her with Dr. Ratio

    • @Bakagii
      @Bakagii 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      wait its not a debuff?

    • @LeftyPencil
      @LeftyPencil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Bakagiinope, debuffs have a red down arrow on them when applied

    • @SashyyKane
      @SashyyKane 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      @@Bakagiinooo its not :( its a status effect that technically isnt a debuff even though enemies with burden take increased dmg

  • @Minorihanasatomybeloved
    @Minorihanasatomybeloved 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +73

    Ooh I’m early. Also for a while I stopped playing hsr, and when I came back and saw hanya I was literally thinking “who the hell is this?” I heard NO ONE talk about her

  • @WackyChu
    @WackyChu 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Thanks for making this video! I was curious on what happened to Hanya. Everyone talked about her being OP for like 3 weeks then she became just as forgotten like Natasha.

    • @toshihsr
      @toshihsr  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I’m glad you enjoyed ☺️

    • @LeftyPencil
      @LeftyPencil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Ironically both physical units

    • @luv.fluffychan
      @luv.fluffychan 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      well i mean at the end of the day, this is a gacha game, every new units will somehow have more use than the previous units in order for the company to make money, therefore spending currencies to the new "better" units. natasha slowly got weaker when luocha came, and became niche when lynx was introduced

  • @cryptid2923
    @cryptid2923 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Gonna be real, I use Hanya and Sparkle on the same team and they work great together. I love using her!

    • @rifqisuripto252
      @rifqisuripto252 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      That's good, especially for Jing Yuan, since he used his skill to stacking up for his Lighting Lord.
      You aren't wrong.

    • @lidzk
      @lidzk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      this person wasted 10 sp on QQ ONCE and has been traumatized ever since

    • @KAGEMORIEru
      @KAGEMORIEru 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lidzk I can’t believe I relate to this 😭

    • @ilikememes1402
      @ilikememes1402 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      EYYY, Ima be having her with Qingque. I'm not gonna let that gambling addict make me rage again when I have sparkle and her now

  • @rgusol9153
    @rgusol9153 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I love that the gameplay shows a little of what you're talking about, keep the great content 👍

  • @memetic_hazard
    @memetic_hazard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Ruan Mei ate up 2/4 Harmony slots. Before RM I would try to run one Jingliu team with Bronya/Pela, and a second with Tingyun and room for Hanya/Asta/Yukong, depending on the elements.
    After a Ruan Mei my second team needed no other support unit and I would generally look for a subDPS instead. And then I pulled Kafka and Black Swan and there's certainly no room for her now.
    With ice weakness phasing out of MoC I'll be turning to Dr. Ratio to cover one side. But he's going to want Pela or Guinaifen for debuffs, and then Bronya will be the top choice for harmony. No room for Hanya again.

    • @neo.3
      @neo.3 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      and even worse now that hanabi is about to debut because hanabi will be an upgrade over bronya when it comes to ratio who does some of his follow up attacks outside of his own turn after his ult. if bronya is gonna get benched, hanya as well as yukong and asta can just forget about it

    • @jedhraley
      @jedhraley 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neo.3 just pull e6 bronya ez

  • @ClockiePizza
    @ClockiePizza 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I adore Hanya, she's one of mains 🥹 I wish she wasn't overshadowed so fast

  • @rosaria715
    @rosaria715 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Maybe it's just me, but i like playing inbibitor with ruan mei, hanya and loucha/ fu xuan. They both give him immense booste and hanya solve the skill point issue while also giving him more speed. So infight im around 200 speed on him with the buffs and i can spamm his 3 charges non stop without to worry about skill points. She is nieche yes, but she fill that so well if u need her.

  • @sindriana
    @sindriana 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I will still use her to this day, even when I will get Sparkle

  • @skyscream3842
    @skyscream3842 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    I don't really think her SP generation is that good but so far she's the only alternative to Ruan Mei as a Universal Dmg Bonus team buffer. I don't have Ruan so I instead use her to buff both Kafka and Swan and since she only really needs speed I take advantage of the fact that she's physical to stuff in Break Effect too, she's not the best breaker but her skill does make breaking somehow reliable. I think one problem with her is that her buffs feel kinda backloaded which can sometimes backfire if you're not careful with her Burden. Overall, I think she's underrated and her teamwide dmg buff works better in dual DPS setups rather than Hypercarries but was unfortunately released close to Ruan Mei.

  • @Miku-Izayoi
    @Miku-Izayoi 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    Maybe I'm wrong but it feels like Hanya and Sparkle both generate the same amount of sp, the only difference is when said sp is available.
    Hanya generates 2 SP every rotation, making her a +1 sp unit every turn.
    Hanabi spams skill every turn and she gets ult after 3 turns of spamming skill. Upon ulting she generates 4 sp, making her +1 sp over the course of three rotations.
    What makes Sparkle special though is that she can actually use her basic attack to generate the same amount of energy as like using her skill. This allows here to be even more sp positive if that's what your team needs.
    Hanya's kit can only generate 1 sp. Meanwhile Sparkle has the option to generate more without losing out on her ult.
    Hanya does have an advantage though when it comes to her fellow 4 stars, and that's her teamwide damage % buff. All of the 4 stars doesn't have a damage % buff with a permanent uptime unlike Hanya's.
    Tingyun gives 60%+ damage buff for 2 turns, being able to ult every 3 turns = 1 turn downtime, also single target only
    Yukong has 18% imaginary damage buff w/ permanent uptime and is teamwide but small
    Asta buffs attack and speed only
    So she does have that edge. But yeah, she definitely did suffer
    Though her suffering probably is because of how bad she got nerfed pre-release. (Pre-nerf Hanya is actually capable of generating more SP than base Sparkle. Sparkle wins though if she can 2 turn ult with HH. And her buffs were more potent too but they toned it down for some reason, probably because of RM and Sparkle's release. This is why Gacha smack had a video talking about how OP she was, and when she got nerfed so hard Gacha smack released the Hanya is over valued video xd)

    • @sittingcrowd912
      @sittingcrowd912 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      You forgot about Sparkle’s technique. She generates 3 skill points at the start of battle.

    • @lostblueboy
      @lostblueboy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@sittingcrowd912 but this is over a rotation, not just start of battle.

    • @sittingcrowd912
      @sittingcrowd912 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lostblueboy the sp she generates at the start of the battle are counted towards the net total sp

  • @sadisticshrimp
    @sadisticshrimp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    To be honest, thank you for this video because it made me realize I need to build her at this point. I pull for characters I like and couldn't care less about the 5 star if I don't like them. I don't have Ruan Mei nor Sparkle so saying she'll be obsolete is far of a stretch (I am not a fan of quantum teams). You pointed out things I can't think about because I'm having a hard time understanding the mechanics of hsr(regardless of being a genshin player) . Thanks btw albeit the reverse effect 👍

  • @featherless2524
    @featherless2524 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

    I just built her and I am planning to get Sparkle. So wise investment? Of course, she looks fabulous! I think she's decent as far as four stars are concerned. There is just a lot of competition with other four stars but even they are struggling to keep up with newer characters. Luckily she wasn't a four star dps though. I think Herta is the only good 4 star dps now, that isn't overshadowed by a 5 star. She also might have a time to shine if they introduce a roguelite mode where you can't use the same characters over and over.

    • @memetic_hazard
      @memetic_hazard 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Pela hasn't been overshadowed by SW yet, and I think she's Hanya's biggest competitor. Pela also generates 3 SP over 3 turns, provides teamwide damage increase through defense shred, and is only missing the speed boost.

    • @hogbeancreamyt5295
      @hogbeancreamyt5295 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      ​i don't know if you consider Qingqiu(QQ) as dps but I do think QQ is one of the better dps out there and she's better than most 4* DPS altho she is overshadowed because of many Seele havers I do think if you don't have much choice instead of going herta you can gp QQ

    • @featherless2524
      @featherless2524 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@hogbeancreamyt5295 I forgot QQ existed.

  • @DeathDawns
    @DeathDawns 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

    Im just gonna run both Hanya and Sparkle because I like Hanya too much

    • @ergoths
      @ergoths 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      infinite skillpoint

    • @lostblueboy
      @lostblueboy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      too much skill points, ur gonna need someone who consumes a shit ton of skill points to make it even a little worth it. Like super speed dan heng or something. Or like a super sp hungry sustain like huohuo and super sp hungry character like qq, or dan heng.

    • @ergoths
      @ergoths 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@lostblueboy huohuo skill every turn & blkswns & kafkas every turn. so it is a good combo.

  • @thebadshave503
    @thebadshave503 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I originally built Hanya as a second Harmony to carry Sushang alongside Ruan Mei kind of on a whim. Giving her Planetary LC and a Penacony ornament set for the physical boost and I have to say for a joke build it actually plays out surprisingly decently. The SP generation isn't very needed because Sushang is fairly economical but Hanya can keep her ult buff up near constantly on her carry if you time it well and she does a not-inconsiderate amount of physical toughness damage herself since, unlike most Harmony units, her skill is still an attack. While not optimal I am curious how she'll do with Boothill when he's out since in a lot of ways he fits the same niche as Sushang in that comp with a better kit.

    • @ultravioletishere
      @ultravioletishere 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Her atk buff isn't completely useful on Boothill but her speed buff is great for him

  • @Captainfluffy25
    @Captainfluffy25 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    Such a damn shame because when the game released she had an interesting design and I was super curious to explore her story. She came out and her story is still super interesting... but so unexplored. Also I can say, her design is indeed amazing and dare i say she's the hottest girl in star rail next to ruan mei in my opinion.

  • @StarTopNova
    @StarTopNova 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    such a shame, I love her design way more than sparkle :'(

  • @sleepynotded
    @sleepynotded 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Am I the only one saw her character model body slightly twisted from her hip?

  • @skadiiyt9012
    @skadiiyt9012 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Hanya is still a beast even with the release of sparkle. Her playstyle isn't really the fact on generating sp (skill points) its just an added mechanic that is amazing on her. She is a harmony character that is meant to be sp positive and being able to spam skills and ulti without needing to worry about sp. Her with lightcones like cogs and an ER setup can perma boost speed and attacks boost of a character that uses ATK% boots instead of SPD. Why not bring bronya or sparkle to replace her? because, not everyone has the luck of a god and also she is an easy E6 to get and her eidolons just helps and improve her potential into a buffer/debuffer which not many harmony characters have this trait. Her skill able to apply burden on enemies and increases the dmg the enemy receives but the down side is that it only works for normal attacks and skill and not follow up attacks. Due to having lack of physical dps her full potential is currently, not being able to shine. Clara would've been a good dps option if only her debuff can proc off follow up atcks which it doesn't.. and argenti.. well u know hes only good in farming n pure fiction rn. Overall, she will be replaced by other characters but shes still a very viable character to build especially with E6 on certain situations. If I were to rate her, she'd be in at least an A- tier on E6 for harmony characters, she does a lot for the team with minimal build requirements other than needing as much speed as possible.

  • @jarvanlightshield9944
    @jarvanlightshield9944 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    More likely same as reason as Yukong. Both are heavy invested support that only shine at E6. Asta used to have same issue but the Kafka DoT mechanic somehow make her have some niche in her team at least.

  • @whatever9749
    @whatever9749 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Don't worry guys. Hanya will have her vengeance...

  • @aoki395
    @aoki395 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I think more people will use her if they have her at e6, I got her at e0 and I use her when I need RM in my other team for DHIL. She came at a bad time and most of the people that want her didn’t continue to pull since they don’t want the 5 star she’s with so I think the majority have her at e0. Maybe once she’s in a few more banner and people have her at higher eidolon they’ll use her more. It’s the same with Asta and Pela in the beginning, people are saying without e6 you can’t use them and hold back on building them, some even said the same thing for TY.

  • @tewkyelgn
    @tewkyelgn 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hanya + Tingyun both wearing DDD creates a fun battery for a hyper carry because they can both just spam skill endlessly without going negative. This creates an interesting feedback loop with, in my example, Clara that has actually proven more than capable of brute forcing 3* clears of moc 12s on non phys weak enemies. Obviously this is dependent on clara targeting, and enemy choice as it isnt always applicable but the energy battery this creates essentially puts Clara in ult 100% of the time for every single enemy turn, with a slight damage per counter loss, sure, but when the modifier is available about 50% more than it normally is it can be very potent.

  • @Armstrong1781
    @Armstrong1781 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    using closed captions could enhance the video more

  • @StephenC555
    @StephenC555 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I think most people don't even have a single copy of her. And people has a copy of her already E2 to E6 other 4 stars harmony so not intersted in using her. Also, people may not even build her after knowing 5 stars harmony are coming out in 1.6 and 2.0.

  • @sakitenma_00
    @sakitenma_00 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    as a fp2 player with a c5 Hanya ill say that if you built her correctly she can be usefull with some characters

  • @likes7635
    @likes7635 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I use her. Tbh mostly in one team being argenti, hanya (lc that boosts same type elemental dmg+that one ornament set makes argenti so good with her) tingyun and fu Xuan. She is really necessary here because I try to use benediction as much as possible so I can get as many full stack ults of argenti as possible.

  • @mathiasbiskup2162
    @mathiasbiskup2162 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    the best team for Hanya will be a no sustain DHIL or QQ hyper carry with Sparkle and Bronya, you will be able to use their fully maxed basic attacks several times per cycle because of Sparkle’s and Bronya’s action advance, which if you used Tingyun or Ruan Mei instead of Hanya, wouldn’t be possible, since Sparkle alone wouldn’t be able to supply that high amount of skill points needed to pull it of consistently.

    • @danielcarrilho5217
      @danielcarrilho5217 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sparkle and Bronya don't trigger burden with their skill/ultimate so I doubt that will work smoothly in practice.
      Same reason why Yukong and Luocha are great with Hanya.

  • @RGazell
    @RGazell 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Obligatory "i still use hanya comment" i didn't pull for sparkle, but i use Hanya in DOT comps! I buff Kafka with her and there's a very noticeable difference.

  • @gcsuddenlydavesHusband
    @gcsuddenlydavesHusband 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    consiedring how you need like a billion teams in hsr i dont think having a 4* counterpart of a 5* is that bad. for example: i have sparkle in my QQ team but hanya is going to be awesome in my dr ratio team that also needs a lot of skill points.
    also not everyone is going to pull for every 5* and not everyone is a day one player so hanya still holds up.

  • @TeamSakuraKC
    @TeamSakuraKC 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +44

    The funny thing about Hanya is IIRC she came on Argenti's banner. People were hyping that the "best" team for Argenti was Argenti/Tingyun/Hanya/Huohuo. I don't have Huohuo so maybe her SP usage would change things. But I found that Argenti's team doesn't really need Hanya. I'm not sure where the hype for that even came from. If you look at MoC usage rates, people still highly use Hanya with Argenti, probably because of those initial "best team" comments. I found that team performed better with Bronya, or even Ruan Mei once she released.
    I regularly play (almost) mono quantum with either Qingque or Seele, and Qingque doesn't even seem to need her if she's e6. I'd rather use Tingyun. Maybe she'd work well with DHIL but I don't have him.
    Hanya is a great character, and I LOVE her design. I wish I found more reasons to use her though. I always find myself going for other supports instead.

    • @tommyhickin4669
      @tommyhickin4669 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I think probably because she can contribute to toughness breaking against physical weak, use planetary rendezvous and use penacony grand hotel 2 piece for a lot of extra permanent dmg bonus in addition to her own. I agree she still isn’t the best option but she is defo decent for allowing other supports to support the other team. And she allows argenti to skill every turn which is harder with huohuo vs other sustains like Luocha and fu xuan.
      I will say though, I built her because I didn’t have any built harmony’s at the time and I instantly E6 her in crazy lucky on argenti’s banner but I already stopped using her the second I had 8 characters built to fill MoC.

    • @woulf3168
      @woulf3168 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Were u using Hanya with full physical dmg boost? Eg; planet rendezvous and penacony planar set

    • @migu8328
      @migu8328 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Simply because she can hold planetary rendezvous

    • @Wingedlight-nn4hl
      @Wingedlight-nn4hl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The reason why she was hyped in Argenti teams and is because he Argenti wants to use his skill has much as he can to get his max ult charged up along with getting his crit rate buffs as fast as he can which made him a little SP hungry and Hanya’s main selling point was that she could always manage that for him and that was it for her and while her ult was nice if you look at the buffer chart she is the second lowest buffer in the game with Yukong only being lower than her. Ruan Mei may have put her into the coffin but Sparkle is just gonna flat out burry her when she drops in a week.

    • @tryx-i1426
      @tryx-i1426 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      "I found that team performed better with Bronya, or even Ruan Mei" Yeah chief not everyone has those characters, and Bronya you can't guarantee outside of the 300 pulls.

  • @cyrene03
    @cyrene03 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    managed to get her from the regular banner. her kit is pretty cool to use

  • @yanyanyannn_
    @yanyanyannn_ 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i didnt even know everyone abandoned her i still use her

  • @romeojblock6928
    @romeojblock6928 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There's already speculation of her working with sparkle + Danlu, I've started building her a few days ago just in case she pops off with sparkle

  • @CastielReborn
    @CastielReborn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They nerfed her too much. In final beta
    And yes numbers does actually matters because a support's sole purpose is make the DPS do big PP dmg

  • @adrianhuape1474
    @adrianhuape1474 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Hanya slaps

  • @random_dude_haha
    @random_dude_haha 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I don't have Ruan Mei, neither Sparkle, and i really, really like Hanya, so i invested as much as i could in her (she has bronya lc and 183 speed)

  • @hectorgregorio95
    @hectorgregorio95 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I remember building Hanya super fast cuz she was nice to have for Kafka teams, then getting Ruan Mei and be like "well gotta do that all over again cuz she's just better"

  • @detectivecolonel874
    @detectivecolonel874 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It's truly brutal that Burden doesn't count as a debuff for Ratio or Acheron.

  • @Maruhodo
    @Maruhodo 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    for lore reason, i'll keep using my E2 Hanya with my E0 xueyi throughout the game (if possible, i'll use them till i can't fight MoC anymore and have to switch team). i just like them so much

    • @niigolover
      @niigolover 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Tragic sisters my beloved 😭😭

    • @jellifygirl
      @jellifygirl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was a lore reason 🤯

    • @danielcarrilho5217
      @danielcarrilho5217 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They actualy fit well together, Hanya SP gen also lets you put Bronya on the team easily.

  • @tiltltt
    @tiltltt 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

    i pulled and built her cause i have dhil, but tbh i didn't feel like she was impactul enough dmg wise, and she made the speed tuning more annoying
    the sp wasn't enough to convince me when i could just use pela and still have a better dmg increase

    • @danielcarrilho5217
      @danielcarrilho5217 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've used Pela before but she's a dmg loss in DHIL teams compared to Hanya or E6 Yukong

  • @hellohororo1075
    @hellohororo1075 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Was considering building Hanya but Robin is coming.
    But if Robin does not attack using her skill, then I'm still building Hanya, AS A BREAKER

  • @bunnys9704
    @bunnys9704 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still use Hanya, in the new Memory of Chaos I got a 36* with her and Jing Yuan. Shes pretty good!

  • @cinnamonroll9762
    @cinnamonroll9762 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i waited for hanya since her leaks and she was immediately built cause i prefarmed for her, i use her all the time (cant say the same when i get sparkle tomorrow)
    but she's one of my fave chars!

  • @Rina_TL
    @Rina_TL 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since I don't have Bronya, haven't built Asta and Yukong yet and I'm skipping Sparkle, Hanya sees a lot of action on my acc and will continue to do so at least until a broken male 5* Harmony releases (not counting new TB). Hanya is a staple for my Argenti and DHIL teams, doesn't overlap with Ruan Mei at all, and Tingyun gets left out way more often that Hanya does.

    • @LeftyPencil
      @LeftyPencil 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Male harmony feels like a dream
      Hopefully Sunday?

  • @barnfulofmilk
    @barnfulofmilk 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I mean if you didnt pull for ruan mei and youre not planning to for sparkle, she does fill an easier f2p niche.

  • @jthepj108
    @jthepj108 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    This Reminds me of Wriothesley when he released. I genuinely only know one guy who consistently plays him/makes videos/talks about him in online spaces💀💀💀

    • @fatuusdottore
      @fatuusdottore 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I mean he is very strong but he still at least still has hope if Snezhnaya buffs cryo.

  • @stenborm3680
    @stenborm3680 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Totally agree, Hanya unfortunately will not have any role, if you get Sparkle. They nerfed Hanya way too hard, she does not even really generate more SP than a wind set basic attacking Pela.

  • @wyspreegamings6380
    @wyspreegamings6380 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So far, I've been using Hanya in a Physical team with Silver Wolf.

    • @Catalyna
      @Catalyna 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      yea I think she works best with physical team/carries, cause she can use the Penacony set to further boost their dmg with her debuff, then atk and speed icing on the cake, her SP neutral/regen is moot point imo if u use a SP positive/fast healer like Luocha

  • @1wk407
    @1wk407 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    100% a good thing to have serviceable 4* alternatives to limited 5* characters even if she's not a BiS option for most/any teams. There are plenty of players (both old and new) who will have missed or skipped RM & Sparkle and haven't gotten a Bronya yet. Even assuming you have Tingyun, Hanya just works better in some teams than Asta, so she's a solid choice in a lot of cases. She could definitely be stronger but it's not like she doesn't have a use case.

  • @thetroydixon7283
    @thetroydixon7283 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I feel like Harmony characters are built 'married' to a specific dps if you have enough of them.
    Hanya I only built specifically for Argenti. But I think many people skipped him.

  • @johnd7760
    @johnd7760 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Idk what happened, my e6 hanya still goes along argenti with no issues whatsoever

  • @hildachurl
    @hildachurl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who doesn’t have ruan Mei, I still use hanya in my argenti team as she works especially well for other physical units. I do want sparkle, but I don’t think I’ll replace hanya there. Idk. Harmony power creep seems more troublesome then dps power creep. Especially for f2p and low spender players. Ultimately, not everyone has every character and thus I think she will continue to be used by many people.
    Plus, I don’t think I’ll replace hanya as I like to play with a variety of characters, and using the same ones over and over and only changing the damage dealer when I have other ones seems like a waste idk.

  • @IvanChin97
    @IvanChin97 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was searching to build or not for hanya and yukong and Ur video pop up kudos to u

  • @kingly456
    @kingly456 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I host mini community PVP tournaments in my server and she gets alot of actions there. Other than that outside of the tournaments itself we barely talk about her except as backup support if the others were banned or taken especially when it comes to supporting skill point heavy DPS units. It's a bit sad seeing her in this state but at least she has a niche in our little community

  • @runerune7052
    @runerune7052 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think, the only things that she offers are 30% dmg boost on Burden enemy … her ult give around 40 speed (if you manage 200 speed on her!!!!) and 60% atk boost. Asta simply do much more and for your whole team, with no requirement, super cheap (you only need to level her talent, ult and you are good to go), plus if you have e6 Asta and fighting enemies with fire weakness, she won’t need to skill, ever.
    As for her ‘Sp providing’ … it’s all an illusion. Hanya gives 2 Sp with the cost of 1. This makes her not sp +2 but +1. Basically the same as other basic attack supports, 2 best 4 stars are Tingyun who generates energy, and Pela who shreds Def with ult and Luka’s LC.

  • @jellifygirl
    @jellifygirl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I love Hanya, and really tried to use her a lot (still do if theres physical weakness because I don't have any built phys DPS), but I fear she will simply evaporate into mist the next time we get a tragic sibling physical harmony...

  • @isabellaj4608
    @isabellaj4608 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Since I didn't get Sparkle, Hanya is really nice with dhil. I pair them both with bronya as well since I have her e1 and hanya e5. I probably won't get the new harmony characters so hanya is good for now

  • @XxGibleRSxX
    @XxGibleRSxX 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    goated toshi vid as always

  • @someguy1ification
    @someguy1ification 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    note that Hanya generates more skill points than Sparkle does.
    over 3 turns:
    Hanya uses 3 points and generates 6, assuming your characters are hitting things (your characters should be hitting things regardless)
    Sparkle, with an ER rope (she should be using an er rope), is using 3 points and generating 4.
    Sparkle has a MUCH higher buff value, but Hanya isn't "strictly worse"

  • @hipunpun
    @hipunpun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    She's okay. I used her in MOC 12 a few times and it wasn't terrible.
    She just struggles when compared to high value Harmony units (Ruan Mei, Bronya, Tingyun etc.)
    The supporting slots are so contested that I struggle to see her making a return in future outside of extreme SP situations for players that don't have Sparkle.

    • @hipunpun
      @hipunpun 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I think she's most comparable to Asta, who is also an acceptably good supporting unit.
      They're both reasonably good and usable, but far from best in slot.

  • @TerraTheWise
    @TerraTheWise 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Ah my favorite character imbibitor Luneye and HooHoo.

  • @Mekeweissame
    @Mekeweissame 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What I like about her is that she can provide skill points out of turn. So I can hold FX’s or SW’s ult, & then if QQ doesn’t have hers & runs out of SP without enhancing her attack, I can get another one & try again. I am getting Sparkle, though, so we’ll see.

  • @ryouskye
    @ryouskye 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I got the SW rerun and got my Argenti who I love so much, and the e4 hanya I got works so well with him. She's really speedy (180spd i think) and that way he runs atk boots, she has penacony planar set and the asta lightcone and they're just a really great team
    I'll probably try for sparkle but she has her own niche and is good, she's just not absolutely broken

  • @Sirwest299
    @Sirwest299 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Even though I have Bronya and Ruan Mei, I still like to use Hanya because she’s one of my favorite characters. And it’s also nice to use her with Xueyi.

  • @Neloch4
    @Neloch4 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i mean, i don't have Bronya, Sparkle, or Ruan Mei; so she works for me.
    would love to see her become free tho. Cycle out the Herta cons we get from Simulated Universe or some other game mode where they can do the same.
    sorry for necro post lol

  • @steve_bisset
    @steve_bisset 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hanya is fine. She's never a first pick but for running DHIL and another DPS, she boosts attack and is a battery for skill points.
    I pulled Huohuo and got E4 Hanya on the way. She's a niche bonus unit but she has her uses.

  • @luanzisseable
    @luanzisseable 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I finished the current moc using Hanya (for the first time), now that she is e4 (I play since hsr release) and the team Dan heng, Tingyun and Hanya together was really fun
    I planned to use Dan Heng exactly because I want to diversify my teams and didn't use DHIL in a long time cause hyper carry don't really appeal to me, but hsr current state allow us to use different kind of teams
    Sparkle is a character I didn't have any interest cause I don't feel I need her, I already have a good enough version of her (Hanya). The same works for Robin, no interest cause I don't feel this helps me to build a variety of teams, but only teams that works around her and I don't like that. Basically I'm not a fan of the Harmony path because is the opposite of specialty

  • @VYNYL_Music
    @VYNYL_Music 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I still use her sometimes considering that I also have Argenti which helps my SP management because Argenti uses so much to get his value for AoE. That said, I am gonna say it’s gonna be a little sad when I eventually stop using her as soon Sparkle comes out before her SP management far surpasses the capabilities of Hanya.
    I also believe that Hanya is kinda limited to certain comps because some benefit from SP management from her (with some exceptions where there are situations where you can end up with excess) but others would get too much excess, losing more value than it is gained, which is often better running another character that helps the support role better than Hanya instead.

    • @josephoyek6574
      @josephoyek6574 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If I use both Hanya and Asta in the same team, does that count as a hypercarry? Or does it have to be Tingyun+Bronya to be hypercarry?

    • @jellifygirl
      @jellifygirl 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@josephoyek6574Hypercarry means you're relying on 1 DPS and getting as high of a ceiling as possible on them. It doesn't necessarily mean you're not buffing the rest of the team, but more that you're stacking buffs while then expecting all of your damage from one guy.

  • @gachagodnot8661
    @gachagodnot8661 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i dont even remember she was in the game 💀

    • @toshihsr
      @toshihsr  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      💀

  • @allentayoto7387
    @allentayoto7387 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Only problem I have with Hanya right now is there seems to be a weird happening with her skill. I'm not sure if it's a bug or an actual change, but back then if you cast Hanya's skill on enemy while the enemy still have her stack, she will recover the SP she used. But that doesn't seem to happen anymore.
    But yeah, I just sort of stopped using her later on even though I don't have Ruan Mei either. It's mostly because her playstyle doesn't really open up stuff that much. Most teams I have some specific requirement that she just cannot be slotted in. The only team I could fit her in was in my Argenti team, but I already found a better set up that doesn't require her. I can't slot her into my Dr. Ratio team either, since Bronya....

  • @highwaytoheaven99
    @highwaytoheaven99 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Its power creep, it has always been power creep. I dont know how HSR players can't see the writing on the wall, even when its 10ft tall and wide, writen in blood and with spotlights and neon signs pointing on it.
    Every new character is so incredibly stronger than previous characters that its just laughable. We thought Bronya was a good Harmony, then Sparkle comes up and is 10x better than her, we thought Gepard was a good tank, then Fu Xuan comes up and is 10x better than him, we thought Luocha was a good healer, then Huohuo comes up and she's 10x better than him. Who's next, I wonder? We all be singing praises for Ruan Mei now, but wait a few more weeks and she will be a thing of the past.
    Investing in characters on a game like this feels so pointless... Its like their viability is on a timer.

    • @cristianjosegonzalezmalave7500
      @cristianjosegonzalezmalave7500 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There is indeed powercreep (specially fro, 4-stars to 5-stars and from standard 5-stars to limited 5-stars) but is not at the scale your expressing here.
      Luocha's never needs to use his skill when he is well built giving him a +1 skill point every turn, is pretty much inmune to Crowd control, and can remove buffs from all enemies. All unique features that Huo Huo doesn't have and Sparkle is more like a different, more easy to use Bronya, rather than a better Bronya.

  • @cyberDan404
    @cyberDan404 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    well... she is fully maxed out for me and I played Penacony with her... so she is a main right no for me... and yes, she quicks ass with the full Speed gear, blasting skill points for 2 dps and a overhealer on full auto the whole time

    • @cyberDan404
      @cyberDan404 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      plus Ruan Mei can rot in hell after her story of using MC, and drugging MC, and putting him alone against a true Plague... I can't even look at her... she oficially made me abandon the game for 40 days, until Penacony come up

  • @mikofanboy9711
    @mikofanboy9711 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hanya problem is that she is a key for an already unlocked lock
    They want to make her to support skill point hungry like Dan Heng IL but people already have a working team to manage his skill point long before her release
    And yet for what she does, other options bring more than her
    If only they give her buff as strong as Yukong to justify using her
    For now her kit is arm at beginner that doesn't know how to manage their skill point (ironically she is more of a beginner friendly unit than Asta)

    • @toshihsr
      @toshihsr  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree with this wholeheartedly

  • @skyla8560
    @skyla8560 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I leveled her fully and built her the moment I pulled her. Dunno how much she helps for the team but love her style and ultimate. Hope to e6 her soon.

  • @kawgrath1876
    @kawgrath1876 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I just started and after looking at all the four stars I’m thinking about running Hanya with Misha, since Misha cares about teammates using skill points, not about teammates conserving skill points. Not sure who else to use if I do that.

  • @weeger3930
    @weeger3930 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It was over before it began for her

  • @definitelynotshanque
    @definitelynotshanque 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What's the ost near the end of the video? It's reminding me of pokemon mystery dungeon but I forgot exactly what.

    • @toshihsr
      @toshihsr  8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      sorry for the late response, it’s “looker’s sorrowful theme”

  • @yourlocalyanfei
    @yourlocalyanfei 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Hanya’s in a weird place. She’s not bad, but she has soo much competition that she is seen as weak compared to her fellow Harmony members. Also, I personally thinks she’s a bit too single target for me.

  • @horriblepizza4647
    @horriblepizza4647 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hanya got debuffed before the launch of 1.5. She apparently had much more sp yield in beta.

  • @sahibsingh7358
    @sahibsingh7358 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Meanwhile me vibing with my 175 spd hanya

    • @trebull2284
      @trebull2284 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      samee i love her more than almost anyone else

    • @niigolover
      @niigolover 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I hope i can get her in the upcoming banner🤞🏻

    • @trebull2284
      @trebull2284 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@niigolover im 1 away from her e4 for easy 100% uptime on ults so sparkles banner is perfect

    • @cristianjosegonzalezmalave7500
      @cristianjosegonzalezmalave7500 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If they release a DPS that self-advances forward A LOT. Maybe Hanya will have some relevance.

    • @tripplesouth
      @tripplesouth 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've got her at 192 spd, but sparkle's banner didn't give me any Eidolons.
      So she's still at E0.
      Would be nice to have her E2.
      But she pairs well with Ruan's 10% spd passive, so Hanya reaches a passive 200+ spd.

  • @ramonerodriguez6044
    @ramonerodriguez6044 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hanya has a few strong points going for her. What i would give people as advice is, no matter how SMALL a quirk or advantage, if they have it over others its relevant.
    Low gear req - she only needs speed. Unlike many, if not all, other supports, she doesn't require certain substats to function. This alleviates a lot of gear req and minding the eventual speed tuning requirements her build is one of the most flexible
    Repeating buff - she shares this niche with the likes of yukong, bronya, and yes, sparkle. However. Any and all options will be greatly appreciated whenever we run into frequent buff cleansing mechanics, which no one should write off imo. For f2p, yukong is present but if you need a more sp efficient option you'd use who? Hanya! Especially if you were bringing dot users
    Push forward - the girl can give herself action forward and speed to herself and speed to an ally. In terms of action economy, she's up there with budget options like tingyun. To ulti and turn more frequently outside of premiums like sparkle or standard pull like bronya. The eventuality of bronya is present at 300 standard summons is there. But there's flexibility in possessing her.
    Burden is deceiving - it's not a dot. But you wanna know what it is? An aoe damage amp! It's a buff, so it applies to all enemies even if you hit just one. This makes her great for potential new erudition characters as a budget option. While like tingyun, she isn't sp hungry. She again has the advantage of speed for the carry, unlike tingyun. A while bronya supplies her broken 100% turn agency, she lacks some compatibility with follow-up and dot characters herself.
    These are all loose hypotheticals and very soft bonuses to her, but she has them is the point. She is easy to build, is a budget turn agency unit like asta but with the caveat of scaling up more dmg types than just those that scale with atk. There are potential situations and units that have yet come to pass. Jing yuan, himeko, and even herta. When will we learn the idea of meta is incredibly short-sighted, not factoring the POTENTIAL synergies, situations, and units we get with time? That is all.

  • @GReyn
    @GReyn 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm building Hanya for Seele tho right now..
    Seele Bronya Hanya Lynx
    Wanted to get Sparkle to have super SP Positive team.. but i need more sustain, so skipping her for aven and either luocha / huohuo if they have any rerun later on..
    So, Seele with Glamoth + Hanya..
    With Bronya buffing more while still being SP neutral..

    • @beepybopbap
      @beepybopbap 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      As someone with huohuo she is a must have. She's such a good healer... she's saved me so many times

  • @DeisFortuna
    @DeisFortuna 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have Hanya. I love my Hanya. I want to hug her. I use her regularly. She. Is. Awesome.

  • @loonastrawberry
    @loonastrawberry 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    i still use her often cause i lost at sparkle's banner, lol. i think it really depends on whanever you have sparkle or not

  • @sour_bubble9936
    @sour_bubble9936 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What was the music playing at the end there? It sounds so familiar but I can’t remember.

  • @ashtongamer8623
    @ashtongamer8623 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The think is after i pulled for hanya them immediately i saw a leak of sparkle/hanabi that has skillpoint giver so i didn't build her and long waiting for sparkle for my danheng IL

  • @jumpyyjasminee5315
    @jumpyyjasminee5315 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I use her with most of my hypercarry teams tbh. She has max speed basically with rm, and i tend to use her with Argenti or Ratio. I dont think its bad to have a 4* whos “lesser” than a 5* cause like.. theyre a 4*. Not everyone can get Sparkle and not everyone wants her (im more on the team of wanting her but cant/pointless on my teams). I think she’s still good, even though she wouldnt be as relevant anymore. Hell, i use her over tingyun sometimes bcs shes so much easier to use for me