a Zizzo review follow up
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 4 ส.ค. 2024
- In this video I engage with a commenter to address what he thought were some missing points in my Zizzo review video.
#zizzobikes #foldingbike #zizzoliberte
Vlog channel: brian downey
/ briandowney1
Brian’s Twitter: / anxious_vegan
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My favorite bike shop:
Freedom folding bikes
freedomfoldingbikes.com
0:00 social media links
0:28 intro song
0:40 introduction to why I am making the video
1:28 friends
1:51 comment on brakes
2:34 response to brake comment
5:23 Brompton brakes
7:58 why disk brakes on Zizzo
8:56 why compare chpt 3 with Zizzo
10:18 Zizzo gearing issues
10:47 addressing gearing issues
12:13 Dahon/Zizzo gearing complaints
12:35 oil on your pants
13:28 resolving Zizzo gearing issues for travel
15:54 final complains/thoughts
Hey - it is me!!! Thank for taking the time to reply. I had no idea I could ever have this impact - guess that is my 15 mins of fame :) I was quite nervouse when I saw my name come up and though "Oh noooo"!!! But you treated with me with grace and an analiyical response so thank you :) Keep going!
Is that you bro...?😳
OMG......!!😬
Do you have anymore questions ask for Brian..?🤔
Better not....!!😂
Otherwise another video is coming up again by customer services... God please help me...🤣
@@Freedom-Free Hi - i have been thinking of how to respond to this for a couple of days now. Firstly if someone asks for comments on a TH-cam channel then they will get comments. I do not believe I was at all absusive as some people are on social media. I have several Bromptons and have ridden 1000s of miles on them in various scenarios. So my comments were just comments based on my experience.
Brian addressed my points fairly IMHO.
If you have ever looked at previous comments on this channel you will see I have always tried to be constructive and always try to be constructive and/or be complimentary to him. He is a top notch guy - and I always enjoy his posts.
I recently purchased a Zizzo Liberté based on your multiple videos and review. It's a decent entry level folder and if I really like it, I'll consider purchasing a more fully featured Brompton. I'm a long haul truck driver and needed something portable for grocery running.
Clear, balanced and fair critique Brian.
New system sounds and looks good.
New apartment looks HUGE compared to your previous pad.
Hope your in good health; you appear more relaxed and rested
✔ 🚲 🇬🇧
Thank you. Yes the space increase was definitely welcome.
Maybe do a dry wax on the chain? I think the Brompton brakes are made by Tektro,, which are super strong.
I love that you took the time to explain and discuss any comment issue that requires attention. Good of you. Would have love to see some of your full size bike riding vds--if you have any.
I didn’t know about the chain covers. Great idea! Ditto for the derailer protector.
Good to see you back producing content! Hope your health is faring well and looks like a new place - hoorah. Looking forward to watching more of your fun-filled adventures. Cheers.
Thank you my friend I appreciate the support.😀👍
Another great video. Having owned six Dahon bicycles, A Giant halfway, a Raleigh Twenty I appreciate folding bike content, and Brian‘s channel is rapidly becoming the best source for good honest reviews. I’ve also owned a $5000 rode bikes and some hybrids and I appreciate the differences between bicycles and the Zizzo Liberte has been on my radar. Wider range curing than most similar bikes, light weight, and yeah there may be some cost cutting measures costing bikes costing twice as much or even four times as much. From all that I’ve seen Zizzo has done a great job value engineering ring this bike.
What I like best about this video is HAL Brian appreciate the comments and is not at all at adversarial. Yeah it would be great if we could all go on one big group ride like a critical mass for falling bikes👍
Great follow up video Brian. Your place looks great and speaking of great, the sound was awesome. Must be the new mike. Keep up all the great topics.
hi brian, great tips, i am going to buy zizzo liberte now
I think you will like it😃👍
WHAT A GREAT RESPONSE
Thank you.😀👍
great video. One suggestion on grease from chain, use a paraffin lube. Iknow tha woks on road unsure about folding bikes Keep up the good work
Good suggestion, I am going to look into that😀👍
Brian you are amazing! you kept your cool, answering the commenter like you call it. Thank you for the video.
Beautifully handled Brian your knowledge of bikes of all types and configurations is really impressive. Your approach was worthy of a top score in a debate among experts. Well done!
Well, fair enough & nicely said.
Glad you're back and more active. I would like to suggest you can collab with others or maybe interview other bikers on their different rides ;)
Hi, I totally agree with your explanation 👍
Thought your Zizzo post was informative and to be honest never thought of any of the points raised.
Looking forward to the next one.👍
Thank you, I appreciate that.
Another solid video.
Hi Brian,
Been watching your videos for a while now,I'm not very good with computers just found out how to comment on videos.Ive just retired, I've just been out tonight on one of our old railway bike trails.I have a six speed brompton, and a gazelle ultimate t10 e bike(disc brakes)I like your enthusiasm on cycling,and your informative and down to earth videos.So keep up the good work,if you ever plan to visit the English lake district give us a shout,I'll give you a brompton tour.
Thank you, I appreciate that. England or Europe in general is definitely on my list of places to go as soon as this pandemic is over with. I want to ride my Brompton on its native soil👍
Hi Brian,
Thanks a lot for all the great material you upload. I really enjoy all the things you share and also how open and trust you are in everything you do.
A special request for the future whenever you think it would be appropriate.
I would like to learn from you as much as possible about your drone recordings. Which one do you use, what have you learned since you started, best practices, guides and tips.
Keep up the great work.
I think most of your subscribers would love to go 🚴♂️ with you 😆
Please let me know if you happen to visit Spain
Big hug from Asturias (Northern Spain).
Keep it up!!! 👌👌👌
Bravo!!! 👏👏👏 I really love my Zizzo Forte 🚲 the only thing I changed was the rack. I put on a cargo rack which is more leveled than the stock rack it came with. Nothing at all was wrong with the Zizzo rack, awesome looking and very sturdy, and it didn't affect the fold at all just a bit more heavier. Again great vlog! Cheers from Tampa! ✌️🚲🍻
I thought the on-screen microphone died with Larry King! Love your new indoor setting & the way you addressed this viewer's comment.
Nicely addressed. Nicely handled.
When are you going to do the review on the forte? How would you compare the zizzo and brompton in terms of the fun factor?
Brian, can you let us know if the Zizzo can be set up to haul a Chubby trailer? Great video.
Yes, but you have to get the trailer hitch that attaches to most bikes. I will get one and demonstrate.
So, after your review, I went ahead and purchased a used Zizzo Liberte. I own a Brompton electric. I want the Liberte to use on gravel and trails. What tires do you recommend? Also, what were the brand of winter tires you used on your Liberte.
The brake system for a cycling novice like me seems like one of the last criteria that I consider when deciding on a bike.
Dahon makes a disc brake bike
I have rebuilt an old GT alu MTB to a superlight carbon frame, originally with some of the first disc brakes I have seen, to double caliber, top Shimano XTR brakes and oversize discs on Shimano XTR wheels. And don't compare an ordinary brake with a hydraulic disc brake, because the last brakes absurdly much better!!! There's a reason why Pro riders/racers all use disc brakes today.
That said I have also gone down a steep serpentine road on my Brompton, with often "cattle prevention tubes" over the road, which needed a full stop from high speeds each time, to be able to pass, walking with the bike! And in spite of serious doubts in the beginning, my Brompton never let me down and its ordinary brakes functioned fine all the way down! Finn. Denmark
When you compared disc v caliper brakes in wet weather, did the pads have vertical or angled grooves?
I would expect angled grooves to clear the water better, like a tyre tread.
I am not sure? I will have to check into that.
The best progression of mountain bikes was the implementation of disc brakes. Nice to stop on a dime when you over shoot a line and are heading straight for a tree.
not as powerful as v brakes
@@bikeman1x11 Nope. Disc brakes generate more stopping power. And forget about rim brakes in the rain. Yep, you see v brakes on automobiles...yea right.
@@stevensmith1911 can do an endo with v brakes not with disc- never had an issue in rain- they suck on bikes
Believe I saw a BikeFriday bike in the background. Is it yours? What is your opinion of it. Love your vids--honest and based on experience. Keep cranking!
Question, I see your dual front chain ring setup which seems really cool. Did you try to install a front derailleur and hit a roadblock or did you just avoid it for some other reason? I’m considering going down the same path. Cheers mate
I have a standard Brompton. The brakes are really very good. 3 years, and still on the original blocks.
Also I have a Scott E-Tour electric. The brakes are Shimano hydraulic disks. Those brakes are also very good at stopping the bike.. and the real confidence in wet conditions is nice to have.
But the brake pads wear out quite quickly on the Scott. No problem as such. The pads are easy to find, not expensive, and straightforward to change. But I have been through two sets in the time I have had the Brompton, and the spare blocks for the little folder are still in the packet. As things are going, I'll need another new set of pads for the disks on the Scott before the Brompton needs its brakes relining.
I have a eBrompton, which I love. I’m thinking of getting a Liberte by Zizzo for off road biking. Do you recommend it for off road and gravel riding. I’m thinking of buying a used one. I like the folding concept and the weight. What say you? BTW, I love your videos!!!
I have a Liberte for a year. If you change the tire, you can do occasional off trail. However the bike is designed for city commuting, not for mountain. If you want mountain off trail, get a proper mountain bike.
I hate disc brakes on bikes- they must be cheaper for them tyo show up on xmart bikes
I have this question can you shift gear while you pedal on Brompton internal gear. Thank you
You can shift whilst pedaling, but the gear won’t engage until you stop pedaling.
@@ibikeunfolded although once you get used to it, a momentary pause in the pedal stroke is all you need
@@duncanhamilton5841 yep, got it down to a science.
@@ibikeunfolded thank you this is my first internal hub bike. And from day one I was always concerned about shifting gear while on steep hill to stop pedaling and change gear. 😁
I hope you don’t mind an off topic question. I’m trying to figure something out. First, I’m not mechanically inclined so forgive me if this is a totally basic question. I’ve been thinking about the gears and trying to understand them. So if a gear is bigger, it doesn’t go around as many times for each time I pedal so the back wheel doesn’t turn very much and the gear is easier to pedal but slow. If that’s true, then a smaller gear will turn more times for each pedal and the back wheel will turn more times for each pedal and it will be more work but will make the bicycle faster. Therefore, I’m guessing a bigger crank wheel by the pedals would make it more work to pedal the bike, but the existing gears would turn more for each pedal rotation and the bicycle would be faster overall. Am I thinking of this correctly? Like I said, I just ride and don’t think about this normally, but now that I’ve been riding for a month or so, I can tell I’m getting stronger and more and more I try to reach for another shift up and find I’m already in the highest gear. Meanwhile, it seems I’m almost never on the first few gears anymore, even on a hill. I appreciate your considering this for me.
Yes. I ride a hybrid bike with three chain rings connected to the pedal cranks. The smallest one is often called a “granny “ because it helps on the steep hill climbs. The biggest one is for speed on the downhill side.I’d say you got it right.
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I have no real knowledge of bikes and I want to tour with the Brompton but, I am still in the deciding phase. This has been going on for two years now. - I'm taking my time now that we can't go anywhere, anyway with this Kung-Foo. This discussion has been immensley valuable for me. I have no idea but I consider myself as being reasonably endoured with intelligence and can make decisions based on other people's experience. That is why I subscribe to this channel. There has been a problem with Channel notifications and even though I went in search of your most recent upload, i must have just missed it. Then I began to be concerned for your health but now I can breath out. The Zizzo website, of course, I went into after the initial introduction you made - cost and weight naturally being a very attractive feature. I cannot really remember much about the website except that i seem to have the impression that the Zizzo's website was unsatisfactory for my needs. Glad to see you back and being so active. Good video.
If money is not an issue, get an Brompton. I had one, love it. Sold it last year. Then I brought a Liberte. Best purchase I ever had. Good well build bike for the money. Can't go wrong.
Can confirm Brompton above 30mph is as sketchy as hell. Not recommended unless you have balls of steel and brains of margarine
My brain is definitely margarine... as far as balls go I upgraded my steel balls for carbon😁
Gotta have diamond ballz at 30 mph.
Rim brakes SUCK in the rain!
Spot on nit pickers lol.
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Bro, way too much face. Step back yo
Most cheap folding bikes, have derailed protctors