Zizzo Liberte commuter here. Every day. Into and through NYC. OK, PATH from NJ into NYC, then riding on the streets. The easy folding and dollying make it really easy to get through crowded stations and up stairs folded. The light weight of the Liberte was what sold me, because I knew I had to negotiate stairs and turnstiles. The 20 inch wheels are great for the occasional pothole.
Your words about riding onto your workplace grounds with the trucks, and sharing the roads with drivers who aren't as observant as they might be, make a lot of sense. I live in a town where a lot of drivers don't seem to be 'bike aware' - this is why I always wear a high-vis vest when riding my Ammaco 20" wheel bike, anywhere. I also wear a light coloured helmet, which friends say make me much easier to see... when I have to drive a car I notice cyclists wearing white, yellow or light orange helmets are the most easily seen.
Zizzos are neither crappy nor are they cheaply made! The paint on my Via is gorgeous as are the welds and the bike works perfectly. I’ll probably still be riding it while your Brompton is in the shop… again! And it appears that you caused the problems with the drive train and haven’t dialed it in, so don’t blame Zizzo. They offer a great bike for a reasonable price. Brompton’s are nice but are way over priced!! Love your channel tho’, keep up the good work!
I never said zizzo was a crappy bike. I said people say why do you ride that cheap crappy bike? Yes, you are right. The modifications I made are cause the issue and I have tried everything to dial it in as you say without success. I will be changing the gearing to something that might work better but I must remind everyone that this bike did not work out of the box. I was having all kinds of shifting issues from the get go. The urbano and liberte models don’t suffer from these problems… Thanks for watching and for the feed back…..I just thought I’d clarify.😁
I think the best part of zizzo bikes is that you can customize it with off the shelf parts. I think you're just going through trial and error to see what works best for you. Also I have to thank you for your Forte review. I got the Urbano instead and I'm very happy I did! Thanks 👍🙂
@@greuju $1600-2800. will get you a used Bike Friday (on their website) made in Oregon. Or you could buy 3-8 Zizzo’s & get that many people out of their cars… Life is all about trade offs 🚴♀️
I have a Zizzo Via as well. I'm getting a little ticking sound from the bottom bracket area after just riding it twice. I will eventually take it to the bike shop to have it checked out, but otherwise I'm satisfied with the Zizzo Via. I perfer 16in wheel bikes and the Zizzo is my only 20in folding bike in my folding bike collection.
I love my Zizzos. Very inexpensive...I don't consider them cheap. Nice to see you feel the same. You ever consider a belt drive and a shimano Nexus/Alfine hub?
Hey Brian! Love your videos! I bought my folder because of them (Zizzo Liberte, not a Brompton...maybe some day). What is the song at the beginning of all of your videos? Which Bern helmet is that? You should review gear for urban riding (Starting with the Bern).
I've done it... I've bought a Brompton. The young man in the cycling section of the Halfords shop (England) grinned and said "There's no going back!" I think he's right - it is just fun to ride.
Understand you use the bike as a commuter bike. But do you feel any difference in comfort, efficiency, performance of this cheaper bike compare to expensive brompton? Is it a marginal gain or a huge difference?
There's no rain. He's illegally driving on the sidewalk if I catch him I will secure him and either take the bike away or call the cops. He's endangering pedestrians children or other people using the sidewalk
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
It's amazing how inexpensive (comparatively) Zizzo bikes are to even Dahon, but I recall in a former video you said the factory derailleurs were kind of low-end, and perhaps other components, and that's why you upgraded these parts. But you are a serious cyclist, I was thinking of these folders as a neat way to go to grocery stores a couple miles away, there are bike lanes along the road but no bike racks at the stores! I saw in another video you were just easily able to fold up your Brompton and set it into the grocery cart in the store, that's neat! Nothing folds like a Brompton. Are these larger folders able to be compact enough to do that as well? It's interesting to me the Dohan, Tern, and Zizzo are all related, literally. David Hon started Dohan, his wife and son started Tern, and his brother started Zizzo! The Tern models look quality to me (from online), but I'm still mulling things over. Besides, it's summer and it gets HOT where I am, ugh.
Dahon, Tern, and zizzo all fold pretty compact…albeit not as compact as the Brompton. The Zizzo liberte and Urbano models have pretty good components/derailleurs. The rest of the bikes have lower/bottom end components.. I was disappointed by the zizzo forte because it’s an awesome bike with a crappy drivetrain and that’s why I had to upgrade it. I don’t take the tern or Dahon or the zizzo into the stores with me. The Brompton folds so compact that it doesn’t take up too much room in the shopping cart but the zizzo and the others do.
@@ibikeunfolded Thank you for the update/info! Dang, that's what I thought, nothing seems to fold as compactly as the Brompton. There are trade-offs with everything.
@Pete Hamilton I purchased a Tern Vektron two weeks ago as an e-bike upgrade from my Dahon SUV D6 and it’s been fabulous! I find the Vektron folding system MUCH better than the Dahon, but still nothing on the Brompton in terms of folding/weight. It was between a Tern and a Brompton e-bike for me but the Tern won out because it came with a rear rack that could take a basket and panniers at the same time plus the Bosch motor/battery.
@@pams3887 Thank you for the feedback, Pam! Wow, the Vektrons are noice bikes! They are virtual car replacements to me! I agree, Tern is a premium brand indeed, and I consider a rear rack required. Since they are related, I was surprised to hear they fold better than the Dahon. I generally prefer high quality stuff when I get something - I don't get a lot of things, but when I do, I like quality if I can afford it. I am also intrigued by eBikes. There's a TH-camr that is a bike mechanic out west that's idea is to upgrade standard, old bikes that are sitting in people's garages (like decent older mountain bikes), unused, and turning them into eBikes with Bafang mid-drive motors and associated hardware, for typically about $1500, it's a great idea an a bargain vs. full size brand new eBikes from the main brands - that's a car loan! 🤣
I loved my Zizzo Via so much that I put a Bafang motor on it, made it a mid drive ebike. Now there is no hill I can't climb. It was such a joy that I bought an Urbano too.
You can use a waterless wash and wax on your bike frame. Dirt will find it harder to stick to the frame. Colarado need to mow the grass less frequently and at a higher cutting height.
Same as me Brian, use a cheap or old bike for those commutes to and from work, here in England we have lush green grass but alot of fast bad drivers who still haven't learnt how a speedo works in a car ! Stay safe 👍🚴
We have the same here in the UK. Most towns and cities here don't have the bike lane infrastructure that our bigger cities like London have and the smallest vehicle most drivers tend to be looking out for is something car sized so cyclists are pretty much invisible! Regarding your gearing on the Zizzo, maybe a narrower chain could help. If your bike is 8 speed then maybe try a 9 speed chain which is slightly narrower in profile. Also you may want to consider fitting a Shimano Claris rear mech which has a medium length cage so it's suitable for 20" wheel folding bikes and a capacity up to 32 teeth on your biggest ( lowest) gear cog.
Have a look at a Shimano Nexus or Alfine. Zero or minimal maintence and easy to shift gears. I have a Tern P7i: Dynamo Hub+Nexus 7+rear rack+mudguards and I am spoiled by the internal hub. The newer model similar to the P7i is the D7i.
@@ibikeunfolded I watched your Dahon video. Hope you can get that Gates belt as well. Good luck! For the Zizzo you will need to re-lace the wheel which is probably complicated.
Very cool vids! Keep up the cool content. I just moved to China again where it’s folder central. I was prepared and brought my Brompton too. I really enjoy your videos because I’m from Park Hill and like seeing all the local sights! I’ll have to send you some local picks of the 15 year old folders I see on the daily here in Shenzhen.
Hey Brian, why not give some thought to using an ebike for some of the daily commute rides? You don't have to use the electric motor all the time- maybe just when you know the wind is going to be strong against you, or its going to rain. So you can still keep up your fitness by riding without the power on part of a journey. I use an electric brompton, and its light enough that I can ride it like a normal bike with the motor off, but when I'm not feeling 100%, or the weather is windy/rainy, I switch on the motor and it makes the ride a lot less unpleasant. To be fair, I know It's a lot of money to spend on a bike that you would only use once or twice a week, and it might be just me getting older and wanting an easier time of it, but just a thought.
A really enjoyable video thank you. I'm watching from the UK. I think that you should be more concerned about yourself being damaged if you are hit than the bicycle. However I am just the same as you, I worry about the bicycle more than myself.
I know this wasn’t a Brompton video but since your into the performance improvements of the bikes have you played with a duel chainring for your Brompton. I have just started looking at them for mine and seems like it could be the best of both worlds as far as being able to go fast and still climb hills.
I’m planning some performance modifications to the chapter 3. Bigger chain ring and possibly a rear cassette setup instead of the internal hub. Nothing final yet….just working on ideas.
The new 2023 forte has a rust buster chain, so it’s not suppose to rust. I haven’t noticed any corrosion around the hinges after riding in the rain. There are lubes that are water repellent that would help with this situation should it ever arise.
You also mentioned using it as a grocery cart...Can we really do that without getting in trouble? I wouldn't feel secure about leaving my bike outside, even with a chain! So I was wondering.
What's the best bike to carry on a 35' sailboat? I see Zizzo is coming out with an E-option for the Liberté. Does the Forte still come with cheap junk components, or did zizzo get its act together? Is what comes on the Liberte all that better? Is the Carbo really worth anything close to what it costs? Is it worth having electric at all, or just better to stick with full-pedal-driven bikes? Has anyone even lain hands on a zizzo marino and it's it any good?
If that bike had a free hub you could put the 8 speed Microshift Acolyte groupset (short cage) that is designed for 20” wheel mountain bikes. I put it on my recumbent bicycle and it works surprisingly good.
That quick fold with the handlebars unfolded looks really nice and I think I can do that with my dahon mariner. I wonder what you call the folding method. BTW, what paneer bag are you using? Thank you for this cool video.
I am looking to get one of these in Canada the best one I can get is the Via. I wanted to add the rack afterwards. My question is where did you get your pannier, do you have a link. Everyone says the 20 inch wheels make it impossible.
@@ianchissy I ended up getting the Via, got the rack shipped in and installed and a pannier that fits. Took it on the GO train to work a few times I love it.
I have a refurbished campo and it's great I paid $200 for it and after someone ran over me at a crosswalk I was able to get a second one for less than most bikes cost.
Can i get a folding bike at walmart ? I need to exercise after 5 way heart bypasses and cant lift a bike up stairs..not the all steel ones...any help i appreciate it
Too many issues. Just ride the damn Brompton and also use the truck entrance. Cars probably use it too. It's only awkward in your mind. Never take away the pleasure of riding a Brompton! ❤😜
Great stuff again Brian! The social commentary about faulty cultural programing is gold. Site appropriate landscaping is vital for conservation. Especially in the west.
Yes….. Many reasons…. The Zizzo has a better/stronger steering stem(video on this coming soon), the Zizzo Is cheaper, the Zizzo website sells replacement parts to repair your bike in the event of damage…..I could go on and on😀
@@ibikeunfolded thanks so much! zizzo, citizen, dahon, tern, etc...others??? hard to know what's crap and what's decent, esp. for hill climbing and potholes. thanks.
thanks for the video and thanks for your persistence on keep riding to work. it awfully sad here in north american cities (even Canada is the same shit) we have zero usable bike infrastructure and cities do nothing about making it any easier. car supremacy in these two country is on full swing. hopefully one day we become like europe and stop this car madness in our cities
@@edselbobpacer I carry so much weight on my 2023 zizzo forte that I can definitely say it can handle the weight. That bike is rated to 300 lbs but I’ve had more on it.
Man, life is short. Don't worry about spares. I do not think that those bikes you adore so much would have the same meaning to whoever you leave them to. Hell, you may even lose all your belongings including those bikes in an earthquake one day. Enjoy the life while you can 👍
I don’t know how you’re able to ride these things for miles to work without getting people’s sh**** opinions who demand ‘normal’ stuff including full size bike(unless they’re electric).
I hope you give Thanksgiving Day, Christmas, and St. Valentine Day cards to your coworkers and neighbors. It appears you work in a logistics building. I was a sanitation worker for eight years at a warehouse living in constant fear of being stabbed, and a former neighbor where I reside was a tractor trailer driver, he made my life a living hell; acted like a character in an episode of the Dukes of Hazzard t.v. show ( and the cops) and he sold his house to a woman (she acts like Catherine Bach in the Dukes of Hazzard) whose father is a state employee from my hometown area. Some experts claim I am too tall for a Brompton type bike. Do you have a folding mountain bike you can show everyone?
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
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The rant about saturated grass is the funniest thing I've seen all week, thanks man!
🤣😁thank you.
Zizzo Liberte commuter here. Every day. Into and through NYC. OK, PATH from NJ into NYC, then riding on the streets. The easy folding and dollying make it really easy to get through crowded stations and up stairs folded. The light weight of the Liberte was what sold me, because I knew I had to negotiate stairs and turnstiles. The 20 inch wheels are great for the occasional pothole.
Your words about riding onto your workplace grounds with the trucks, and sharing the roads with drivers who aren't as observant as they might be, make a lot of sense. I live in a town where a lot of drivers don't seem to be 'bike aware' - this is why I always wear a high-vis vest when riding my Ammaco 20" wheel bike, anywhere. I also wear a light coloured helmet, which friends say make me much easier to see... when I have to drive a car I notice cyclists wearing white, yellow or light orange helmets are the most easily seen.
Zizzos are neither crappy nor are they cheaply made! The paint on my Via is gorgeous as are the welds and the bike works perfectly. I’ll probably still be riding it while your Brompton is in the shop… again! And it appears that you caused the problems with the drive train and haven’t dialed it in, so don’t blame Zizzo. They offer a great bike for a reasonable price. Brompton’s are nice but are way over priced!! Love your channel tho’, keep up the good work!
I never said zizzo was a crappy bike. I said people say why do you ride that cheap crappy bike? Yes, you are right. The modifications I made are cause the issue and I have tried everything to dial it in as you say without success. I will be changing the gearing to something that might work better but I must remind everyone that this bike did not work out of the box. I was having all kinds of shifting issues from the get go. The urbano and liberte models don’t suffer from these problems… Thanks for watching and for the feed back…..I just thought I’d clarify.😁
I think the best part of zizzo bikes is that you can customize it with off the shelf parts. I think you're just going through trial and error to see what works best for you. Also I have to thank you for your Forte review. I got the Urbano instead and I'm very happy I did! Thanks 👍🙂
Personally I avoid all Chinese made stuff at this point. I'd rather pay a premium to avoid funding genocide etc.
@@greuju $1600-2800. will get you a used Bike Friday (on their website) made in Oregon.
Or you could buy 3-8 Zizzo’s & get that many people out of their cars…
Life is all about trade offs 🚴♀️
I have a Zizzo Via as well. I'm getting a little ticking sound from the bottom bracket area after just riding it twice. I will eventually take it to the bike shop to have it checked out, but otherwise I'm satisfied with the Zizzo Via. I perfer 16in wheel bikes and the Zizzo is my only 20in folding bike in my folding bike collection.
I love my Zizzos. Very inexpensive...I don't consider them cheap. Nice to see you feel the same. You ever consider a belt drive and a shimano Nexus/Alfine hub?
Hey Brian! Love your videos! I bought my folder because of them (Zizzo Liberte, not a Brompton...maybe some day). What is the song at the beginning of all of your videos? Which Bern helmet is that? You should review gear for urban riding (Starting with the Bern).
I've done it... I've bought a Brompton. The young man in the cycling section of the Halfords shop (England) grinned and said "There's no going back!" I think he's right - it is just fun to ride.
Understand you use the bike as a commuter bike. But do you feel any difference in comfort, efficiency, performance of this cheaper bike compare to expensive brompton? Is it a marginal gain or a huge difference?
Great camera work...do you use a GoPro? 👍🏽
Another great video, love the rant about the over watered grass verge . Maybe you could fit a Shimano geared hub instead of a de- railleur .
There's no rain. He's illegally driving on the sidewalk if I catch him I will secure him and either take the bike away or call the cops. He's endangering pedestrians children or other people using the sidewalk
@@levondarratt787 gt a life you stupid Nazi.
@@levondarratt787 not necessarily true. Lots of places let you ride on the sidewalk legally
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
They are good aren’t they? I have several and they are among my most ridden bikes.😀👍
It's amazing how inexpensive (comparatively) Zizzo bikes are to even Dahon, but I recall in a former video you said the factory derailleurs were kind of low-end, and perhaps other components, and that's why you upgraded these parts. But you are a serious cyclist, I was thinking of these folders as a neat way to go to grocery stores a couple miles away, there are bike lanes along the road but no bike racks at the stores! I saw in another video you were just easily able to fold up your Brompton and set it into the grocery cart in the store, that's neat! Nothing folds like a Brompton. Are these larger folders able to be compact enough to do that as well? It's interesting to me the Dohan, Tern, and Zizzo are all related, literally. David Hon started Dohan, his wife and son started Tern, and his brother started Zizzo! The Tern models look quality to me (from online), but I'm still mulling things over. Besides, it's summer and it gets HOT where I am, ugh.
Dahon, Tern, and zizzo all fold pretty compact…albeit not as compact as the Brompton. The Zizzo liberte and Urbano models have pretty good components/derailleurs. The rest of the bikes have lower/bottom end components.. I was disappointed by the zizzo forte because it’s an awesome bike with a crappy drivetrain and that’s why I had to upgrade it. I don’t take the tern or Dahon or the zizzo into the stores with me. The Brompton folds so compact that it doesn’t take up too much room in the shopping cart but the zizzo and the others do.
@@ibikeunfolded Thank you for the update/info! Dang, that's what I thought, nothing seems to fold as compactly as the Brompton. There are trade-offs with everything.
@Pete Hamilton I purchased a Tern Vektron two weeks ago as an e-bike upgrade from my Dahon SUV D6 and it’s been fabulous! I find the Vektron folding system MUCH better than the Dahon, but still nothing on the Brompton in terms of folding/weight. It was between a Tern and a Brompton e-bike for me but the Tern won out because it came with a rear rack that could take a basket and panniers at the same time plus the Bosch motor/battery.
@@pams3887 Thank you for the feedback, Pam! Wow, the Vektrons are noice bikes! They are virtual car replacements to me! I agree, Tern is a premium brand indeed, and I consider a rear rack required. Since they are related, I was surprised to hear they fold better than the Dahon. I generally prefer high quality stuff when I get something - I don't get a lot of things, but when I do, I like quality if I can afford it. I am also intrigued by eBikes. There's a TH-camr that is a bike mechanic out west that's idea is to upgrade standard, old bikes that are sitting in people's garages (like decent older mountain bikes), unused, and turning them into eBikes with Bafang mid-drive motors and associated hardware, for typically about $1500, it's a great idea an a bargain vs. full size brand new eBikes from the main brands - that's a car loan! 🤣
Love my zizzo forte to take to work, it’s so convenient and light. I own an expensive e-bike but each serves a different purpose.
I loved my Zizzo Via so much that I put a Bafang motor on it, made it a mid drive ebike. Now there is no hill I can't climb. It was such a joy that I bought an Urbano too.
You can use a waterless wash and wax on your bike frame. Dirt will find it harder to stick to the frame. Colarado need to mow the grass less frequently and at a higher cutting height.
Another great video, love the mellow music when you’re traveling 👍
Same as me Brian, use a cheap or old bike for those commutes to and from work, here in England we have lush green grass but alot of fast bad drivers who still haven't learnt how a speedo works in a car ! Stay safe 👍🚴
We have the same here in the UK. Most towns and cities here don't have the bike lane infrastructure that our bigger cities like London have and the smallest vehicle most drivers tend to be looking out for is something car sized so cyclists are pretty much invisible!
Regarding your gearing on the Zizzo, maybe a narrower chain could help. If your bike is 8 speed then maybe try a 9 speed chain which is slightly narrower in profile. Also you may want to consider fitting a Shimano Claris rear mech which has a medium length cage so it's suitable for 20" wheel folding bikes and a capacity up to 32 teeth on your biggest ( lowest) gear cog.
Thanks. Good video, I'm considering Zizzo.
Have a look at a Shimano Nexus or Alfine. Zero or minimal maintence and easy to shift gears. I have a Tern P7i: Dynamo Hub+Nexus 7+rear rack+mudguards and I am spoiled by the internal hub. The newer model similar to the P7i is the D7i.
I have a Dahon I’m fixing up that I has a nexus 8. Hopefully when that bike is done it will make an awesome commuter. 😃
@@ibikeunfolded I watched your Dahon video. Hope you can get that Gates belt as well. Good luck! For the Zizzo you will need to re-lace the wheel which is probably complicated.
Very cool vids! Keep up the cool content. I just moved to China again where it’s folder central. I was prepared and brought my Brompton too. I really enjoy your videos because I’m from Park Hill and like seeing all the local sights! I’ll have to send you some local picks of the 15 year old folders I see on the daily here in Shenzhen.
Hey Brian, why not give some thought to using an ebike for some of the daily commute rides?
You don't have to use the electric motor all the time- maybe just when you know the wind is going to be strong against you, or its going to rain.
So you can still keep up your fitness by riding without the power on part of a journey.
I use an electric brompton, and its light enough that I can ride it like a normal bike with the motor off, but when I'm not feeling 100%, or the weather is windy/rainy, I switch on the motor and it makes the ride a lot less unpleasant.
To be fair, I know It's a lot of money to spend on a bike that you would only use once or twice a week, and it might be just me getting older and wanting an easier time of it, but just a thought.
There Is absolutely nothing awkward riding a folding bike but people are often strange and awkward
Search for a FD Adaptor for Dahon frames. Then you can mount a 2x derailleur on your bike
Have you thought of conversating the drive train to a hub drive and single speed chain?
Yes. But the weight I carry and the hill here in Colorado make riding a single speed difficult.
A really enjoyable video thank you. I'm watching from the UK. I think that you should be more concerned about yourself being damaged if you are hit than the bicycle. However I am just the same as you, I worry about the bicycle more than myself.
I'll heal😂 maybe. The bike on the other hand??not so much🤷♂️
2600 miles on my 2019 Zizzo Campo. the only thing I did was swap out to mks pedals and the adjustable stem
Zizzo are Great bikes. I have no complaints👍😃
@@ibikeunfolded I agree and you were the reason I made the choice. The adjustable stem was a huge game changer for me.
Own two Zizzo for two years. Not a single problem.
I know this wasn’t a Brompton video but since your into the performance improvements of the bikes have you played with a duel chainring for your Brompton. I have just started looking at them for mine and seems like it could be the best of both worlds as far as being able to go fast and still climb hills.
I’m planning some performance modifications to the chapter 3. Bigger chain ring and possibly a rear cassette setup instead of the internal hub. Nothing final yet….just working on ideas.
Hey Brian, Can you advise what camera model you are using?
If the bike gets wet do the folding hinges rust? How about the chain? Really considering getting one to also go to work.
The new 2023 forte has a rust buster chain, so it’s not suppose to rust. I haven’t noticed any corrosion around the hinges after riding in the rain. There are lubes that are water repellent that would help with this situation should it ever arise.
You also mentioned using it as a grocery cart...Can we really do that without getting in trouble? I wouldn't feel secure about leaving my bike outside, even with a chain! So I was wondering.
What's the best bike to carry on a 35' sailboat? I see Zizzo is coming out with an E-option for the Liberté. Does the Forte still come with cheap junk components, or did zizzo get its act together? Is what comes on the Liberte all that better?
Is the Carbo really worth anything close to what it costs? Is it worth having electric at all, or just better to stick with full-pedal-driven bikes?
Has anyone even lain hands on a zizzo marino and it's it any good?
If that bike had a free hub you could put the 8 speed Microshift Acolyte groupset (short cage) that is designed for 20” wheel mountain bikes. I put it on my recumbent bicycle and it works surprisingly good.
That quick fold with the handlebars unfolded looks really nice and I think I can do that with my dahon mariner. I wonder what you call the folding method.
BTW, what paneer bag are you using?
Thank you for this cool video.
I am looking to get one of these in Canada the best one I can get is the Via. I wanted to add the rack afterwards. My question is where did you get your pannier, do you have a link. Everyone says the 20 inch wheels make it impossible.
The Dahon Mariner is available in Canada, much higher quality than a Via
@@ianchissy I ended up getting the Via, got the rack shipped in and installed and a pannier that fits. Took it on the GO train to work a few times I love it.
I have a refurbished campo and it's great I paid $200 for it and after someone ran over me at a crosswalk I was able to get a second one for less than most bikes cost.
What is your opinion about the Decatlhon Folding Bikes?
What specific bike is that? Like name and style. I’d like one like such
What kinda grips are those and the front bag you using
Do you know what replacement brake lever I should buy? I cannot find anything about it online.
All the comments from everyone were really helpful. I'm 65 and considering Z.
Did you by any chance use water to clean the water marks off your bike!?
Can i get a folding bike at walmart ? I need to exercise after 5 way heart bypasses and cant lift a bike up stairs..not the all steel ones...any help i appreciate it
4:50 nice hat, if not a secret is it stg like under helmet?
hey Bryan, you told me the name of your entrance theme (intro name), would you please tell me again.. Will download the song this time
It’s called “Reload2” by Tomas skyldeberg
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Crazy that they don't have a sidewalk at that truck entrance.
I know right.
Too many issues. Just ride the damn Brompton and also use the truck entrance. Cars probably use it too. It's only awkward in your mind. Never take away the pleasure of riding a Brompton! ❤😜
I ride my Brompton Everyday! Since it’s a small bike I’m definitely not compensating for other inadequacies😊
Can i change the gearing of my zizzo , and where i can find this new gearing ratio. Tanks a lot for the tips , im a begininer
Great stuff again Brian! The social commentary about faulty cultural programing is gold. Site appropriate landscaping is vital for conservation. Especially in the west.
do you prefer zizzo over dahon? if so, why? thanks.
Yes….. Many reasons…. The Zizzo has a better/stronger steering stem(video on this coming soon), the Zizzo Is cheaper, the Zizzo website sells replacement parts to repair your bike in the event of damage…..I could go on and on😀
@@ibikeunfolded thanks so much! zizzo, citizen, dahon, tern, etc...others??? hard to know what's crap and what's decent, esp. for hill climbing and potholes. thanks.
Hey brian how do we get in touch?
thanks for the video and thanks for your persistence on keep riding to work. it awfully sad here in north american cities (even Canada is the same shit) we have zero usable bike infrastructure and cities do nothing about making it any easier. car supremacy in these two country is on full swing. hopefully one day we become like europe and stop this car madness in our cities
How many folding bikes do u have
About 10 or so..
@@ibikeunfolded I like these bikes but I am a bigger guy but I've seen bigger guys riding them what's your opinion
@@edselbobpacer I carry so much weight on my 2023 zizzo forte that I can definitely say it can handle the weight. That bike is rated to 300 lbs but I’ve had more on it.
@@ibikeunfolded iam going to send for one on Amazon
How much does that ebike weigh?
What e-bike are you referring to?
i love the part where he says what bike it is
Man, life is short. Don't worry about spares. I do not think that those bikes you adore so much would have the same meaning to whoever you leave them to. Hell, you may even lose all your belongings including those bikes in an earthquake one day. Enjoy the life while you can 👍
When do you ride your Bike Friday?
Everyday I’m off work. Still getting it ready for some touring I’ve got planned.
@@ibikeunfolded Thanks!
This should be a 3 min video.
Far too much padding
I don’t know how you’re able to ride these things for miles to work without getting people’s sh**** opinions who demand ‘normal’ stuff including full size bike(unless they’re electric).
I hope you give Thanksgiving Day, Christmas, and St. Valentine Day cards to your coworkers and neighbors. It appears you work in a logistics building. I was a sanitation worker for eight years at a warehouse living in constant fear of being stabbed, and a former neighbor where I reside was a tractor trailer driver, he made my life a living hell; acted like a character in an episode of the Dukes of Hazzard t.v. show ( and the cops) and he sold his house to a woman (she acts like Catherine Bach in the Dukes of Hazzard) whose father is a state employee from my hometown area. Some experts claim I am too tall for a Brompton type bike. Do you have a folding mountain bike you can show everyone?
Hobo cyclist puts thousands of KMs on the cheapest folders out there.
The things you own, ended up owning you.
Ok Tyler😁
I'd ride with the trucks. Nobody cares.
Go back to original gears.
Interesting. No offense but would be good to see more bike(s) and less you :)
What fenders are those?
I've been riding this bike for about a month th-cam.com/users/postUgkxwC0IIeIomGQVeBWg-kKJaToZkLEFIA2W and a half now and I think it's fantastic. It helps me get to work on time every day since I'm able to fit it inside of public transportation rush hour. The price is great too, people are always shocked when they ask me how much I paid for the fold up and I tell them "200". It's easy to fold and installation when it ships is insanely easy. All you have to install when the bike arrives is one foot pedal, everything else is done for you. I do recommend you carry some sort of wrench to tighten any loose screws on the handle bar and seat whenever they get a little bit loose. Other than that I think it's a fantastic bike. Easily fits in the home, can fit inside a car trunk and can even fit in subway rush hour.
They are great aren’t they.