Incredible Biggest Wind Turbine Farm Installation Technology. Amazing Giant Factory Machines Working
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- Incredible Biggest Wind Turbine Farm Installation Technology. Amazing Giant Factory Machines Working.
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Well thats one way to completely fuck up a perfectly nice looking landscape, May as well paint them bright yellow to top them off.
I am loving to see that crane more than wind mill itself 😊😍
Ya gotta love FREE ENERGY! Millions of tons of FREE steel, FREE fiberglass, FREE plastic, FREE rare earth metals (mined with FREE child labor too), thousands of workers willing to work for FREE, huge networks of FREE roads, and FREE transmission towers, all FREE!!! Yeah, who needs coal, gas or nuclear power stations which actually cost money to build! FREE ENERGY is the way to go!
Be damned impressive when it catches fire and falls over.
Why would it catch fire
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@@Danieldoomerta
For not to catch fire there will be the engineers magic
And all that is Environmentally Friendly? Give me a break.
And they need lithium batteries and they need rare earth metals to build these things. Do some research on lithium batteries and what mining rare earth metals is doing to the environment. You will be shocked.
@@jerryblack3483
Well said Jerry, these virtue signalling morons are either too stupid, too lazy or both to do real research into these issues
They latch on to the first statement or quote that makes them feel warm and fuzzy without any consideration for the facts. The one basic fact is, more people today are lifted out of poverty than at any other time in history. I can just visualize Leon outside now hugging his favourite tree. Cheers.
@Leon Wilcox Why does the United States government sell millions of tons of coal to China and India each year? You know the same government that preaches the dangers of burning coal. While President Obama was going coast to coast preaching climate change and the evils of burning coal his administration was selling hundreds of millions of tons of American coal to China and Russia. During his administration China and India built 200 brand new coal power plants. Personally I saw 2 coal trains pass through here on their way to the Texas coast where they will load the coal onto ships to send overseas all with the approval and permission of the United States Government.
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@@jerryblack3483
The big question is why Zerobama bought a seaside mansion in Martha's Vineyard if he believes the sea levels are rising??? He doesn't. It is all a scam to suck money out of wallets. FJB
If there's an argument to choose solar over wind, this video captures it. Converting wind energy into electrical power is incredibly labor & resource intensive, requires many moving parts with associated maintenance, and is extremely complicated. Compare to solar: install panels, wire inverters & batteries, wash panels once or twice a year, replace in 20 years or so. Nevertheless, it was a fascinating video! Thanks!
you are so right about that
Solar doesn't provide as much energy. Also the panels are highly toxic after their lifespan.
@@arun2404 Really? Don't wind turbine generators require 'wind'? Not every place has wind 24/7. Despite my criticism of wind turbines, they are part of the solution. Together with solar generation and batteries, we can greatly reduce our fossil fuel dependence.
@@Anthony-qq2xm Good point! I wonder if there's anything toxic involved in manufacturing fiberglass turbine blades? And I wonder if fiberglass is recyclable?
Complete waste of taxpayer funded money for no quantifiable change in the climate in any way,there is no climate emergency,total bullshit,part of the great reset where you will own nothing and be totally pissed off!
Ein unglaublicher Aufwand so eine Windkraftanlage! Allein das Fundament ist der Wahnsinn. Man sollte viel mehr Photovoltaik mit Batteriespeicher Installieren!
Безумные технологии безумных людей
Бедные черви как они будут теперь жить (
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Wow so much Carbon displaced with all that equipment , concrete and steel.
I did know about the amazing amount of steel, but here I learned about the crazy amount of concrete.
@Leon Wilcox how are you traveling?
On a drone?
Oh yes a Tesla... clean energy in your place but polution in the production of batteries, electronics and other equipment.
Not to talk about the end of life disposal of those....you are so smarter than everybody👍
@@DS-ll5fn Don't forget about the coal burned in the power plant that supplies your electricity to power your tesla.
Thanks for sharing this Video
God Bless you Always
Look at all that steel! The only way those things can be green is if they painted them.
And tons of concrete and plastic. Crazy !
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On what basis are you comparing this project to' is it worse than building a coal plant? im just curious what your thoughts are.
It takes an incredible amount of concrete, metals, plastics, fuel, to set just one of those things.
Yeap! Thats so energy efficient .. 😂
I would be curious to know how long it must operate for in order to break even in terms of the energy expended for the materials, manufacturing and construction.
@@davidemmet7343 Just posted a very similar question.
@@fifthof1795 It is unfortunate that those kind of questions don't get asked more!
I am all for sustainable, green energy but I don't want to see expensive virtue signaling.
They are terrible... we ar goin on 3 years and still dealing with terrible roads etc..
They have to operate atleast 15 years... if they make it that long...
The destruction and waste of fuel and precious resources is an abomination....
That's a lot of work to be a less efficent means of power. All while killing birds. Here in Texas, we learned the hard way this winter, about wind and solar. You can have it!
@Leon Wilcox Wow! Get triggered much?
I don't care where they work, Our news had tons of footage of many turbines covered in ice, not moving, frozen solid. And solar panels iced over. The generators are still powered with fossil fuel. And the Honda generator that ran my house for 5 days, and kept my Family alive, was burning some good dead dinosaur's.
@@SPROCK3TMONST3R triggered you too. Oil is the way to go. It always has been and always will be. Global warming is a lie. The climate is in perpetual change. Scientist said the Arizona desert used the be a lush grassland less than 1500 years ago. In the 90s scientists were saying the Mt. Pinatubo eruption put out more CO2 than mankind throughout history. That was the consensus.
One thing I learned, there is always an agenda, and rich companies wield much power.
Nuclear fan here. Sorry boys
I worked on some of these in California about 40 years ago but nothing compared to the size of these wow is that a lot of concrete
"East of San Francisco, one of the country’s oldest wind farms has produced power for more than 30 years.
There, almost 1,500 old turbines were taken down in recent years. Only 82 new ones were installed in their place, but they produce about the same amount of electricity."
Meaning, the new turbines are 18x more powerful than the ones they are replacing. Incredible!
And now we have ones that are 50x more powerful than that on the way.
The GE Haliade-X 14 MW turbine produced a new record of 312 MWh in a single 24hr period.
@@pianodarr you are referring to the ones on the Altamont Pass those are the ones I worked on as a Young Man.
@@davemartinez4143 Cool. If I was starting out today instead of being 55, I'd go into building or designing renewables.
U.S. Renewable Energy Jobs Employ 800,000+ People and Rising: in Charts
"Twice as many Americans now work in the wind industry as in coal mining, and solar employs many more…
"Nationally the U.S. solar industry work force is bigger than that of oil and gas construction, and nearly three times the size of the entire coal mining work force.”
@@pianodarr to be completely honest with you I was just helping at the construction part. I really have no idea how they work. ? I was 18 years old at the time
立上げるところは初めて見ました。豪快な作業大変だとは思いますが、皆さんくれぐれも気をつけてください。🌞🌞🌞
All this technology, effort, money, talent for something that isn't needed.
C'est de la folie !
All of the energy and resource, most non-renewable, for each wind turbine. I wonder just how much they actually are worth it in the long run. Because in a few years, they will have to be taken down and transported to a landfill.
Energetic payback time is ~6 months, economic life ~20 years, recycling will be 100%
They blades can't go in land fills, to toxic. Australia has thousands sitting in the desert thousands. Placed there from other countries.
@@allenmyers2198 recycling process is relatively new, so older decommissioned blades are indeed still around. I’m assuming people will get to them in due time
ironically the construction crew can't work while windy.
All that concrete and steel is very green a lot of embody energy there
Magnificent team work 😊
In what world does all this work and money invested worth the outcome?
I couldn't imagine ever doing this. Not to mention ALL the products used where created by oil industry, Mining etc. IF one does this to "save" the environment I would say this is not the way.
@Leon Wilcox the cost and work put into this energy product doesn't equally the energy it provides. And it takes the burning of fossil fuels to make every piece of the piece of crap.
@Leon Wilcox interesting how you pour out your judgement on those you don't know. I have no connection with either industry but I do know the facts. And outrage? Lol. Maybe you but not me.
@Leon Wilcox I can say the same about you. Only I have no reason to "regurgitate" lies. Turbines are 100% made from iron ore, aluminum, copper, plastic, rubber etc which is all created by fossil fuels. That's a fact. They have a 25 year life span and where I'm from we have tons of them everywhere...but...they account for less than 2% of our entire electrical grids capacity at any given time. I'm in Ontario Canada and we have superior electrical knowledge as we supply 1/2 of the electricity our American neighbors enjoy and I can tell you that nuclear power and hydro electric power is what you use to supply power. Not shitty wind turbines that poison aquafers, create noise pollution as well as waste tax payers money on get rich quick skeems like "green energy". It's ok. The juice will wear off in about 20 years when all these turbines die out and nuclear/hydro is still going strong.
@@paulsmith5469 Well said.
Any idea on how to stop a company from building them? They are trying to put a bunch where I live in the Ozark Mountains. @@paulsmith5469
Could you imagine if just one of those hundreds of bolts sticking up were off a hair when your trying to line up tons of weight that one section of that tower is!! Talk about precision!!!
Solar Panels should be attached to its Blades on Both Sides !
Зелёная энергетика никогда не будет безубыточной
Ну в России на такой проект бабки распилят в карман, растянут на 10+ раз дольше, качеством хуже, рабочей силой по объявлению. Ещё больше бабок получится
Russia is shit without oil and gas.
@@zurgmuckerberg ваш уровень образования говорит о том, что вы не очень умны. Саудовская Аравия на 90 процентов живёт на продаже нефти. В России продажа энергии это 30 процентов от ВВП. Вы из какой страны? Чем сильна твоя страна?
@@zurgmuckerberg I'll translate yours for you, so I don't think you can read it with a dictionary. your level of education indicates that you are not very smart. Saudi Arabia lives on oil sales for 90 percent. In Russia, energy sales account for 30 percent of GDP. What country are you from? What is your country's strength?
Probably costs more to maintain then what is actually produces..lol
@Leon Wilcox
You probably own stocks on companies that produce these. You might catalogue us as fools, but you are a greedy and irresponsible bastard.
너무 멋져요 확실한 애너지 얻네요 감사하지요 전세계가 다잘사는 평화시대가오길 바라마지않습니다
Wind turbines are as effective as using paper to build a house.
How much energy went into the construction (and eventual demolition) of this turbine v. how much will it produce over its working life? Anybody?
Far more than it will ever return. They average 20% efficiency, barely produce enough electricity to run a household, cost $300,000, last about 20 years, made from all non-renewable materials.
They pay for themselves in about 8 months of operation
Not me
I would think (hope) the cost effectiveness has been studied
I have read different numbers, that the carbon footprint reaches equilibrium in 1.5 years. But this is an exceptionally large one, numbers will likely vary for different types. Once up, the bigger ones are substantially more efficient.
I did think "that's an awful lot of concrete".
Intéressant, spectaculaire !!
超级佩服这些工程师。不简单每位都是英雄！
Nice video
Those are some cool wind powered cranes!
Don't forget the wind powered foundries making the rebar and structure framing, concrete plants, and the facilities where there built.
Your point being . Once the wind turbine is put up it generates electric while the wind is blowing for the rest of it's life without generating emissions. Sure there are problems with them. But hardly the diesel fuel used by the trucks to put them up. After all I am guessing you don't really give a crap about the diesel fuel being burned up by everyone else.
@Leon Wilcox don't forget 100s of gallons of fossil fuels filling gear boxes.
100s of lbs of fossil fuels packed in bearings.
1000s of miles of fossil fuels insulating wires.
Yep saves when working. Go ask Texas how reliable wind was.
Wind power is not gonna eliminate fossil fuel it needs it to exist.
@Leon Wilcox so does your house and car. I bet your not eliminating anything in your life involving fossil fuels.
Actually it was our current governments incompetence that caused the problems in Texas by not allowing steps to be taken to ease the situation. Like you said colder places have wind power and it works. I'm in the NE snowbelt and our power plants never froze. Clearly it was bad decisions at the higher levels that was at fault, other areas have the knowledge to avoid the problems.
Fossil fuels won't be going away.
@Leon Wilcox how much fossil fuels went into mining the batteries for your ev?
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ألف ألف ألف التحية والتقدير للمهندسين أو الباقي العمال 🙏🙏🙏🌹🌹🌹
I like watching the things malfunction and fly apart.. That is the coolest thing..
,,,WEATHER WARFARE is here see MIKE MORALES show WIND FARMS put ELECTRICITY INTO THE ATMOSPHERE and destroy the normal climate and
Nice clean green energy steel and concrete there...
And by the time the concrete is completely cured the turbine will be obsolete so they will just abandon it. Lol
Too bad it takes oil to build all this stuff huh. Lol. Wake up. Truth reigns
@@brunobarks6544
Too bad that truth that reigns will be in the form of acid rain as wars are fought over drinking water & people kill each other over a can of green beans.
@@jupitercyclops6521 they tried the acid rain scam 30 years ago, it never arrived and dropped it.
It takes 60 truckloads of concrete for the base. Lol lottta diesel being burnt there!
Incredible ❤️👍❤️👍❤️👍
The production of the concrete and steel alone are labor intensive and require much energy to produce.
Then it takes even more resources to transport it all to the site.
How clean is that?
Not clean
Grading the access road and the wind mill site is always a challenge. Trucks cannot turn tight curves and wind farms are usually among hilly areas...
Espectacular Ensamblaje.
Enjoyed the similarity to starship stacking 😂😂
Also that holding hand structure.. 👍👍
Офарин ба ин кадар мехнати гарон ва офарин ба инженер хо и ки ин конструкции ро ихтиро карданд 100 бор офарин шумо дар назди халк нон и халол мехуред офарин бар Падар ва Модаре ки шуморо калон ва тарбия кардааст
Отличная работа!
And without gas fired plants they wouldn't have the steel to build it -- without oil no fiberglass to make the blades. Cost V longevity - they aren't worth it. Then there is the disposal of the entire apparatus after it outlived itself.
Yea landfill . .. not so green is it.
Yeah, it's all a big steaming pile. But it's a slightly less steaming pile than if nobody bothered.
I think the key is to acknowledge that there isn't just one option available. You're 'allowed' to use shitty technology to produce slightly less shitty technology. And why not? It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Once the turbines are working they're running on a free resource and reducing the need for coal, gas, oil, nuclear, whatever.
It's better than nothing. Not perfect, but that's no reason not to try stuff.
@@EleanorPeterson yea and only 20 years. Then the blades end up in the landfill. You can't break down fiberglass.
Oh and electric cars.... you know how much earth you need to dig to get the stuff that goes into making the battery.
Not so green is it. Look it up.
How much did it cost ? How long did it take to build it ? How many hours of maintenance does it require? How much electricity on average, does it provide in one year ?
Forgot a few. How efficient are they? (less than 40%) where do they put the blades when they are disposed of? Made of fiber glass and will never decompose! How long before they generate profit? 15 years, How long do they last? Average life span? 11! Not so green
Интересно через сколько данное сооружение отобьет свою стоимость и начьнёт приносить прибыль!?
Please note: No fossil fuels were burnt in the making of this wind turbine.
Haha..... ya right. Good one! Far from environmentally friendly.
Magnífico. É de tirar o fôlego!
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Simplesmente espetacular 👏👏👏
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Aqui na minha cidade no RN, tem algumas torres dessas.
I'm here for the music. Incredible selection!
تحيه للجميع
الكل مبدع يؤدي عمله بإتقان وجمال
Bom dia !! Muito interessante à montagem dos Torres
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Excellent foundation of the huge wind turbines. How many megawatts generated for one unit?
Люди добрые! Подскажите, пожалуйста, за сколько лет полностью окупятся затраты на это циклопическое сооружение? Ведь оно же не в постоянной работе, а только как Эол захочет. Конечную утилизацию этого "циклопа" и реактивацию территории тоже надо включить в затраты. Если всё детально посчитать, то, возможно АЭС будет и экономичнее, и экологичнее и уж точно надёжнее в выработке энергии!? ИМХО, конечно 🙂
It is amazing what smart people can do. I am talking about those people that they were able to design. Not so much about the labor the labor is labor, you show them how to do it and they do it.
just go on field n do work what labor is doing than u will realize what labor work is.
@MOHAMMAD MOIZUDDIN I have nothing against labor. There are a lot of people who are very hard working and doing things very well. But everything is given to them, the tools, the machines. But there is a genius man behind them that we don't even know about. We don't know who is the man, that came up and created things 1st. And don't believe it is a team of work it is not that way. There is a one man in team, who came up with things and doesn't get any credit for it.
Maybe as a follow-on you could post a video of what happens to the turbine when its life span runs out . Those blades are buried in big mass grave yards and left to rot into our earth 🌍
Where are the mass grave yards located and how many blades are buried?
They don’t rot they are fiberglass they are just there. Bad for the environment
@@raybin6873 Look it up .. You'll find the blades are cut up and put in the ground as there is no way to recycle them
@@fasteddie7997 Exactly
How do you want to produce electricity?
Гений мог это всё придумать 👍
Very good machine I also participate machining work of this components
1. How much power (maximum) can a single turbine produce?
2. What is the cost of one turbine?
2. What is the estimated cost of setting up one turbine?
The location, wind speed and duration of wind spped matters much apart from consistent progressive govt policy on import duty, local tax and subsidiary of State. For example, souther tip of India enjoy both East, west wind with oceans on 3 direction s. Is Suzlon failure because of energy orientation rather than wind orientation? There should be consistent progressive. Govt , policy for sustaining with correct feasibility reports. 👍 For sharing. from India.
power depends of the wind, if you have internet connection you can find these informations.
It takes 50+ years to pay itself off. Wind energy is a scam. Imagine your government taxing you for their "wind"
@@higherlifts420 Where is your evidence? Total nonsense. Bigger turbines are much more efficient than smaller ones and the technology has improved. In the meantime gas and oil are very expensive.
У нас в деревне тоже такие есть!
одичальій катсап вернись наxyй запарєбрік собирать валежник пока Вексельберг разрешил
Самое дорогое и опасное производство электричество для экологии.
А потом удивляются счетам за электроэнергию)
Just can't believe how powerful the mind of human. Salute to every engineer! (I'm not engineer).
But I am 🐼
I wonder how much petroleum goes into making one of these?
How many years does it take before a wind turbine begins to actually start paying off?
@Leon Wilcox it's all cool be when the wind blows.
I've seen acres of windmills just hanging out.Nothing happens.
Explore that while we live with what we've got NOW!!!
Iu
typically pays for it's carbon birth~ death in about 5 to 8 months. It's the scale.
@@philrabe910 it’s true- there’s a sucker born every minute
I want my personal wind turbine.
absolut spitze - bitte viel viel mehr windräder
Wow! Look at all the money politicians are making! 😍
Exactly- making green backs off of green guilt is stupid easy
Most are now producing electricity without subsidies unlike fossil fuels or nuclear!
@@brendancooney9401 If it wasnt a grift, why do they leave entire wind farms to decay. The entire energy sector is a subsidy. Thats why the politicians invest in it.
Los Ausines, Spain
You can tell they are pretty big fans of wind over there
Ja, die Riesenmaschinen verdichten pro Windanlage ca. 1ha Ackerland und betonieren ca. 1000m2 Land....super
Now I can build my own wind turbine. Thanks
Yes! I like this video.
المسيح يسوع رسول الله دين اللة الإسلامي مافي شعي مسحي دين اللة واحد الاسلامي
И как они не боятся строить такие здоровенные ветряки?? а если - ураган ?! там же ходить под ним опасно, в свежую погоду - только с молитвами.
На северном море полно таких ветряков стоят и ни один из них не рухнул! И в стране их много , стоят на возвышенности!!
Org2 super dan hebat
Fantástico!
Que tecnologia!
Que custo!!!
É tudo muito preciso.
Que base!!!
Show
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Ich habe mir
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Add all the energy consumed to build this. Environmentally friendly it is not.
そのデカイの建てるのに、その小さい水平器か…と思うたら、ちゃんとレベル出てきてひと安心w
Exlent work wind power turbines good job
Muito bom mesmo o trabalho só quem é profissional da área entendi a perfeição e a capacidade dos profissionais! 👏👏👏👏
BOLSONARO 🇧🇷
Заплати за него кучу дотаций, произведи из угля и нефти,
Покупай электричество в 10раз дорлже чем из газа, а когда нет ветра Мерзни и сиди в темноте.
Утилизировать его тоже не возможно.
Ухсххаэаха.
Европейцы, вы мазохисты
Hello
Indian🇮🇳🇮🇳❤️❤️
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Show 👏👏👏 em Marcolândia divisa do estado do Piauí com Pernambuco tem dezenas delas
చాలా అద్భుతంగా ఉంది. ఇలాంటివి మన భారతదేశంలో కూడా ఉంటే బాగుంటుంది
Those cranes are incredible! How much do those components weigh? How high can the crane reach?
1000 Ft.
I was flying out of Amsterdam and saw the huge wind farm off the coast. An amazing feat of engineering. I believe they’re this size as well, or pretty close
And I bet you believe it was all done without producing ANY CO2. What a load of rubbish. They build them for one reason only, to get the huge subsidies from governments, your money, if you’re a tax payer. Just sayin!!!
@@richardtemby4358 Nobody actually believes that there is no CO2 emitted in the construction of these turbines, it's the fact that they can generate electricity without the use of fossil fuels that will mean less CO2 is emitted into the atmosphere.
@@dsrnotverycashmoney1796
So does the generator on my bicycle but it doesn’t produce base load power, just like wind and solar. Also all this hype was supposed to reduce electricity costs, give me one country where costs have reduced, without government subsidies. Look at Germany, starting to move away from these woke efforts. The only benefits they have produced is to increase the wealth of the investors in these wind and solar farms. Maybe in another fifty years after everyone has finally moved to nuclear there will be lots of jobs created to dispose of all the leftover junk. Just sayin!!!
@@richardtemby4358 oh dear, another coal rep seeing his job go up in flames.
@@null643
Here’s a fact that few people are aware of. Land owners in the Welland area of Ontario who signed up to having wind generators on their land are required to do the removal and regeneration of the areas when the units reach their use by date, all at the land owners cost. How’s that for a sweet deal? Money from the government to put them up, zero cost to take them down and we all pay higher energy bills to the investors.
This is nice nice video. I so much believe the talent of people is came from god in heaven.
I do the same but at sea! I do the cable lay part
Excellent job 🌹👌👌👌👌🌹🙏 Amazing effort 🌹🙏
Don’t you love those videos with annoying music rather than informative commentary? I can’t mute them fast enough.
Yep. The music's actually offensive! A pity, really. I understand that not everybody wants to provide a spoken commentary, but an engineering video like this would really benefit from some captions - a few facts, figures, dimensions, criticisms, the pros and cons of the technology, and so on.
I hope you noticed that my reply to your Comment was written without a musical accompaniment. I was totally naked when I typed it, though. ;-)
I looked in the description for where the wind farm is, the make and model of the turbines installed and total generating capacity but just saw details of the music. The people likely to watch this sort of video care about such details.
The video may very much be a computerized animation video like what's in the movie. So don't be fooled!
Behind the expert work, quite admirable, the contrast with this low-end music highlights the useless and purely green marketing character of this whole operation
Quem trabalha Aí , com certeza trabalha com Amor e dedicação ! Muito bom esse vídeo, até eu fiquei com vontade de trabalhar aí nesse lugar, que beneficia muita gente , A natureza agradece ! Parabéns,,,
Příroda za takové věci neděkuje,jen tiše trpí.
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Wow... amazing technology nd skill.
We need a few of these in Delaware (Middletown) preferably
Great video, I will never look at windmills (turbines) the same again. No matter what your opinions of them, they are engineering marvels.
Yea it’s just the one that they should be on it
Вы лучше гляньте видео, где эти турбины разлетаются на куски от сильного ветра - вот там точно есть на что посмотреть
I have the honor and privilege to see the construction of such wind turbines every day !! I work in northern Israel and drive on all the roads and areas where such turbines are built.
One thing I can say about the turbines: they are HUGE !!!!
To all the naysayers out there, one word "TESLA"
Now after watching this I can install windmill on my own.😝😝.really like this video
Gostei e muito sensacional.
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Количество болтов впечатляет
Чувствую что это уводит совершенно в другую сторону от истины
Ибо в природе всё создано по принципу чем проще тем надёжнее
Wie sieht es mit dem Rückbau aus? Oder laufen diese Dinger ewig?