how tone deaf people hear music
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I deciphered the morse codes! The first one is YOU'RE TONE, the second morse that's mixed with the boing sound is DEAF
no way!
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Wait, for real? 👀
@@Caerulean Nah, when I wrote it down, I only got the message "YOU'L TONE", so the first guy must've made a mistake somewhere
@@Floodpelt
R E = •-• •
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My great grandmother was tone deaf, the rest of both sides of my family have a lot of aural disorders. Her encouragement to my creativity musically only became more meaningful when I learned she had no idea what I was doing.
THIS IS SO SWEET WTH AAAAH
omg 🥰 thats so sweet
Thats not tone deaf, thats just how grandkids music sounds to every older generation.
(lol)
@@SciFiSecrets You never met my grandmother and don't know what music i was playing. Why are you asserting it's "just the kids music these days" she was experiencing?
@@EchoLog < doesn't understand jokes....
love how the phone's ringtone sounds perfectly normal, proof that it is the one sound that transcends all human ailments
Yeah, Fur Elise makes a surprisingly good ringtone.
+ x"D
Well he is still better then someone that does not think they are Tone deaf. BUT THEY ARE.
The phone's ringtone? It was just static.
Haha
For anyone wondering Tone Deafness is a real thing (generally caused by chronic ear infections as a child) but it does not mean that you cannot sing. We had a tome deaf boy in our choir who taught himself to sing by feeling how the vibrations changed in his throat. Very good singer
That’s impressive
Thanks. I's doing some shower singing the other day, paying super close attention to the sensations in my throat, and so was wondering about this.
Very interesting!
when i sing in the choir and can’t hear myself, i have to rely on the way a note feels to sing to tell if i’m off pitch, or even on the right note 😅
My older sister can sing pretty well, and, as a kid, was generally favored in her music classes. She was even decent at playing the flute. It wasn't until a few years ago, in college, that she found out that she was tone deaf. One of her professors uncovered it by accident. There was some demonstration that involved the use of tones. Naturally, she was totally confused and brought up her inability to tell the difference between the sounds. In a span of minutes, the professor ran an experiment and informed her that she's tone deaf.
Funnily enough, I had chronic ear infections as a kid (swimmers ear from bad bathing habits), not her, and I'm not tone deaf.
"Piano, piano, piano, piano, piano, piano" was truly insperational. The emotion and work that went into the quote was amazing.
harmonica harmonica harmonica
guitar guitar guitar
"Yeah... I'm going to take my horse to the old town road." Lol
@@cynthiasilva7422 "OLD TOWN ROAD! THATS A GREAT SONG!"
That's not how it went...
As someone who's not tone deaf I can't confirm anything
That is something a confirm-deaf person would say
@@Gmod2012lo1 no it wouldnt be
@@Gmod2012lo1 LMAO
Underrated comment. Well played, sir or madam.
@@nunyabusiness2945 um
As somebody who is deaf, I can confirm that I heard this video the same way I hear music.
Ha ha ha! Clever.
Mind-blowing :0
I know I probably shouldn't laugh but I lost it so much at your comment XDDDD
As a fellow deaf person who wears a cochlear implant and hearing aid, I disprove that fact. (I'm joking, I know some people do choose to live without them and that's fine. I really am deaf tho)
😂
Tone deaf myself I can confidently say this guy gave the most accurate depiction of our condition. I also have tinnitus so all I hear is bell, bell, bell constantly
bell, bell, bell, bell
Aw I will pray the Lord heals your ears.
eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I got the unlucky whistle whistle whistle type tinnitus. Sometimes it's just an all out squeal that turns my world into a death metal type production. Isn't it just great?
Bell, bell, bell, bell, bell, bell, bell
Guitar, guitar, Bell, bell, bell, bell, bell, bell,Guitar, guitar,
Bell, bell, bell, bell, bell, bell, Drums *Mississippi Queen*
There was a very sweet woman at my synagogue growing up who was so horrendously tone deaf, standing next to her while singing was like being next to a tree trimmer. She made it difficult to even keep pitch yourself. But she desperately wanted to learn to read Torah, which is a very special and honorable thing to do. She studied for like 6 months with the rabbi, which is probably 5 months longer than average, and she eventually did it! It wasn’t amazing, but somehow she trained herself to sound boring instead of horrendous. We were all very proud of her!
that is so wholesome!!
I’m truly awful at singing, but the one benefit to chanting Torah is that there isn’t really a specific pitch to match (at least as far as I ever learned). You just have to go higher or lower when you’re supposed to. I could keep to within my pathetically small range too. I’m sure I didn’t sound great at my bat mitzvah, but way better than if I were trying to sing an actual song.
Such a motivating person !!
I know its beautiful story, but sentence "Sound boring instead of horrendous" as a winning situation makes me laugh so hard :-D
Aren't the women not supposed to learn it
I am tone deaf (among other auditory issues). Since my condition is congenital it is impossible to describe because I've never heard sound any other way. I love music so much even though I can never hear it the way many people do. it is impossible for me to distinguish many similar notes, the higher the frequency the more difficult this becomes. Many music lovers have attempted to "show" me the difference. I know they mean well and just want to share with me what they deeply enjoy, The hardest part for me is I can't sing, it sounds good to me but everyone else suffers like it's a horror movie.
Not sure if it would be worth it, but there are pitch detector softwares out there. You might be able to trial and error out something through a mixture of tactile and visual feedback. Would probably take a few weeks of practice to get a basic scale down though, and it would do nothing for your hearing, but you might be able to eventually sing off of sheet music.
It would be like learning how to type without looking at your hands on an unfamiliar keyboard with a strange layout.
I wonder if tone deaf people singing to other tone deaf people would sound good to them... 🤔
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. It depends upon how far off the person singing is. If they can get close to the note but not quite I will never know. On the other hand if I listen to a recording of me singing it sounds horrible. It will also depend on where they are off since I hear better in lower ranges I would notice a bass singer being off way sooner than a soprano.
@@flinfake Tactile feedback can detect sound, but I can't see how it could possibly detect tone. I went through years of speech therapy during elementary school to overcome speech difficulties to say nothing of singing. (Like I said its a complex series of auditory issues)
@@jimh4375: If tactile feedback couldn't detect tone, how do other people's ears work? Ears are merely specialized structures for receiving tactile feedback.
Can you feel the difference between the vibrations of wood, metal, and stone when you strike it?
A sound is not a singular averaged value, it is a complex formula with variables for how it grows, interacts with the various component frequencies, and eventually decays, not to mention echoes and how it resonates with its surroundings and the sensor.
All of this can be felt by the skin of your hand once you know it is there, barring neurological oddities.
Learning tone is all about deciphering a complex melange of shifting frequencies. I am naturally monotone and took speech classes myself. I was taught to wear earplugs when practicing and focus on the vibrations in my throat.
If you just want to learn how to use pitch, the rate of vibration IS pitch. A higher note on a guitar vibrates faster than a lower one. Find the right vibrations for the right note and you're done. Tone, of which pitch is merely a part, is harder.
I know I'm supposed to be laughing but I'm actually just terrified to find out that tone deafness is a real thing and not just a harsh insult thrown at kids who never made it into the school choir
can confirm i can't tell which note is higher unless they're an octave apart. i just learn which button on the piano means which dot on the paper
I feel so bad for tone deaf people
I was been told that I have Perfect Pitch. When someone Sings a Note or two incorrectly I want to leave the room.
it's 1/20 really, though people often use the word often just to mean someone's "non-musical" where actual tone deafness is not present. As a rule of thumb, if you listen to music on a regular basis and enjoy it, then you're probably not tone deaf
you and me both, simply terrified that people have this condition and are having such indescribable problems to fight with on everyday basis.
Just now realizing being tone deaf is like being color blind but for your ears. That's a lot of beauty in the world those people are missing out on. Kinda makes me want to cry cause I love music a lot.
Aphantasia is wild if you don't know about it but it's very real. The first time I learned there are people with no inner monologue or who are not able to imagine anything, I was shocked. Meanwhile those with Aphantasia learn the inner monologue in anime series is an actual thing for people and are equally shocked. It's crazy how few people know about something with such a huge impact.
-me with visual snow
Wait all of you guys dont have flashing lights overlaying your vison. How did you invent pixel screens then?
@@boserboser6870 Rip that sucks. I have it as well but not too intense. It gets worse when I didn't have enough magnesium intake, it works for me to use supplements (also related to my migraines, which are also related to magnesium for me). It might be worth a try.
@@hagelslag9312 that one's weird because I kinda picture stuff, but when I try to go into detail intentionally it sorta gets all funky (like being super duper stoned). Similarly, I can definitely think without any inner monologue because I know I do it for a good portion of my day (which also makes meditating a bit easier despite having pretty severe ADHD) but I can't simultaneously think about inner monologues and not have one verbalizing my thoughts-- I can only turn it off if I don't try to. Basically, I can think in only vivid pictures, without any verbal thoughts, but only if I don't think about my thought processes too much 😅
@@hagelslag9312 aphantasia is when you can't imagine pictures in your mind. It's totally different from not having an inner voice. I have aphantasia and have had a strong inner voice (which honestly never shuts up). I listen to music inside my head too.
I love slowly collecting the obscure, unimportant "lore" of Daniel's characters. Dennis is tone deaf(??)? Good to know lol
we just need matpat to make a wild theory about it all at some point
Time to create a Danielverse wiki
@@justanaveragebuzzsaw Yess
SIX SEASONS AND A MOVIE!!!!!
wait... did I do that right?
Oh my goodness, this explains why in the housewarming video, he didn't have a keyboard in his house! You wouldn't need one if you were tone deaf!
As someone who is tone deaf. Those were some phenomenal pieces. That piano and guitar solo were great.
the morse code at 1:20 says
first section:you're tone
second: deaf
took me really long to realize .----. is supposed to be a '
Thanks a lot for this!
I'd never have figured out that .____. stood for an apostrophe. Lol.
I also didn't understand that there was a second section due to the funny noises.
@@amritas2400Same! I also thought it just said "You're tone"
@@amritas2400yeah, went back immediatly to listen to first time after it caught me off guard, heard the "you're tone" and I was like "huh, guess he forgot to add the rest" at first 😂
@@amritas2400 I just use it as a smil lol
As a tone deaf person I can confirm this is how i hear music
But you can still appreciate Daddy Daddy Do 👌
@Don't Read My Profile Photo Ok I won’t
@@oivariini7 A man of culture I see
@@NTN_music fellow men of culture, good to see you
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I was literally having a conversation with someone, barely two hours ago, about the extreme rarity of true tone deafness, and how most people believed to be tone deaf just need help to train their brains to properly hear music and then produce vocally.
This was an astoundingly good representation of true tone deafness as described by the person with whom I was speaking (with the added hyperbole at the end, of course).
I had to laugh " just need help to train their brains to properly hear music and then produce vocally".
That what my music teacher thought when he decided I was a perfect candidate for a starring role in musical theatre. See my comment above further up thread. Poor man. He had to admit defeat (eventually) and I was trying so hard to please him.
@Brian theSnail to be VERY clear, it's a REALLY slow process. Minimum of one year, usually. I've been teaching one student for just over two years this Feb., and he has only just started really being able to stay in key to sections of songs.
The commitment to practice is a major help, though.
@@JewishMusicToronto Wow! A minimum of a year? That is dedication.
To be honest, I wish I wasn't tone deaf because I do like music and singing (very badly). I also was a church bell ringer in England and was in charge of a team of 20 bell ringers and I used to teach people to ring. I would have been much better at it if I had been able to easily distinguish the notes of the different bells although we don't ring tunes only 'changes' which are just permutations.
@Brian theSnail it DOES take dedication, for sure. It helps when students have goals. As for my side, teaching tone hearing, production, and control is very rewarding, and that's why I chose it as my specialty with vocal students when I started teaching (though I teach regular vocal lessons too).
If you enjoy music, it's unlikely you're TRULY tone deaf. (As Daniel presents here, true tone deafness is very different from not easily copying notes.)
If you want to test something for yourself, I'll give you one exercise you can try that I use to assess and then train students. While using a voice recorder app, use a piano (or piano app) to play notes, and try to sing them back. Then listen back and see if you can tell whether or not you're able to tell where you're on and off.
You've got nothing to lose.
Morgan Freeman
So I'm not actually tone-deaf, but the "listen to how good my new sound-system is" part is very relatable.
Like: "Doesn't it sound good?", Well the music comes out with no obvious static or distortion so yes.
"Can't you hear the difference in quality?", No, no I cannot.
I too am Bose-deaf
@@GT-tj1qg I'll have to remember that one lol.
well, it happens to most of people. If you listen to a lot of music and can compare that new speaker to another one, then you may spot it right away (sometimes the difference is too small that only producers hear it tho)
same thing happens to me both with audio and visual. back when 4k was new, my friend got one and I didn't notice any different. thought that I was lying about it. Then they were showing me youtibe videos and kept altering the quality and i could barely tell the different;
@@GT-tj1qg lol.
I actually met someone who was tone-deaf once. she worked as a nurse at a hospital I was staying at at the time, and loved listening to my singing. she really wanted to hear me do a specific song, but said that she literally could not sing it back to me to help me figure out which one it was. i thought she was just nervous to sing in front of others, but she told me that she's just always been literally tone deaf. she talked about how she would listen to pop songs in her car and recognize them but have no ability whatsoever to repeat it back correctly. she knew lyrics, but not their melodies.
crazy stuff man.
"she knew lyrics, but not their melodies." On the bright side, that's usually enough to Google it. Though if you didn't catch very many of the lyrics or if, heaven forbid, it's a purely instrumental song, then unfortunately you're SOL.
Thank you for posting this. As a person who completely understands music and tone that lives with someone who is tone deaf, this has given me a better understanding of what he goes through whenever I try to play music for him.
Man, Tone Deaf guy is super lucky to be able to identify musical instruments. I’ve had times where I’ve heard a song and then later saw it being played and thought “That is not the instrument I thought that was coming from.” (And, yeah, the examples in this video would have been pretty easy to identify…probably. 😛 )
Hey I have a question about tone deafness. Can you identify the voice of different people when they speak?
Don't feel bad about that. Many instruments can be really similar and hard to identify out-of-context, especially if they were recorded in unusual ways.
I once had a recording that I could swear had a mandolin or buzuki in it. Only later did I realize that it was of a piano, but that they recorded it with the microphone right up near the strings. The sound of the strings was really twangy and tinny. But in the end they are all string instruments amplified by a wooden box.
(I played in high-school band btw and am not tone-deaf.)
@@HermanVonPetri - Thank you for that. Mine are pretty embarrassing. The bass guitar is what will often confuse me. I can’t remember if I thought drums were making the noise and it was a bass guitar or vice versa but I had that. And then, of course, the confusion with regular guitar.
I’m really hoping to get the musical genius gene in my next life. Might try and steal it from Daniel. 😛
Yeah don’t feel bad! Recognizing instruments takes practice! And time!
Gotta keep you away from Apocalyptica
I have a guy in my cast who’s tone deaf and he really can’t sing or match tones but he’s absolutely hilarious so it isn’t a total loss😂
FYI, 90% of tone deaf cases can be “cured” by practicing them listening with their ears rather than their minds.
I usually have a pitch played or sung constantly right near their ears and then have them practice singing until their hear the pitch start to match and resonate with the tone being played.
Once they realize the issue (they are matching a tone in their head that isn’t the tone they’ve actually heard) they can practice listening with their ears and matching tones.
It sounds crazy but it works. Ears are good at hearing pitches, minds have to be trained how to replicate them.
@lily cartinine Yeah it is true :)
@@MyBiPolarBearMax Fun fact, not all people have an inner monologue and can hear their own voice (aphantasia). This might be a similar issue because it also applies to sound and imagery. If you ask them to imagine something, it stays blank.
@@hagelslag9312 yup, amusia, their brains just can't process that information in the same way other people's do
Does this applies to lyric deaf too?
As someone that read a guy's comment about being tone deaf, I can confirm that this is how tone-deafness works.
lol
As someone who’s read a comment about someone reading a comment I can confirm that preempting all comments with a qualification ESPECIALLY a PhD or Career is basically a requirement in 2023. Whether you actually have that qualification no one will ever know lol
It’s effing annoying like how do people not get fed up (with themselves) saying “actual molecular Scientologist here”
I was gonna like this but want to keep it at 666
As someone whose main source of information is youtube, I can confirm your comment is accurate.
As someone who really enjoys and appreciates music, I can’t imagine not being able to experience that joy.
2:43 This BETTER be an exagerration or something, because YOU don't get to start college before ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
as someone who has tone deaf friends i can verify this is what it’s like showing them my music
EDIT: mom i’m famous
Jazz. Don't ever try to explain the beauty of the jazz to the tone deaf person 🤣
I didn't know I am Tone death until this video
lol i was once making some random chords and streamed it on our discord server XD and one friend came to listen.....dayum she was unable to tell a difference between major and minor.....seriously i thought thats like normal thing everyone can do. Everyone excels at something different tho, i really suck at math XD
PS. song "the worst day of my life" reminds me of one of my early works melodically :D interesting pieces you got.
_Multiple_ tone deaf friends? Are you starting a collection?
@@MyuuniumLMAO
I heard a tone deaf guy describe kind of the opposite in a way. Because he was tone deaf, all music sounded beautiful to him, which sadly came with the consequence of him believing he had a beautiful singing voice as well until his family kept complaining for him to shut up. He still sings for fun sometimes though.
Lmao
I think that's my case too.
I didn't know tone deaf people had this much trouble. That's good to learn. But the interaction between these characters is so relatable since it can be applied to other interactions between neurotypical people and me.
God for realll. I’m not tone deaf but I do have issues and the amount of people who think I just need a good push are too many. No, hun, I physically cannot do this thing.
a good friend of mine is like this and it _baffles_ me how I can play the same tune for them in Phrygian Dominant and in Major and they'll genuinely hesitate to think before guessing which is which. I'm almost impressed they still enjoy music because I feel like I'd go absolutely INSANE if it was that hard to figure out for me. they've described it as being like the closer two notes are, the less they can tell the difference (and the usually-inherent difference in emotion between similar intervals literally just doesn't register for them because of it. a basic Major and Minor chord sound almost the same to them, they can only tell there _is_ a difference, but not what it is)
it's also relatively inconsistent for them on the technical level of telling tones apart, but they seem to consistently be unable to tell scales apart, even got to the point of yelling that a clip of ascending notes, one up Phrygian Dominant and one Minor, were absolutely identical
oh hi description of me
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@@uncroppedsoop uncropped soop
lmao whats going on here
Also, a lot of people who aren't tone deaf don't know much about music but still enjoy it, even if they're not thinking about it in musical terms. A lot of people don't really care if the song they're listening to is actually good or not, but I'm musically inclined and I care.
As a tone deaf person, we know the difference between two notes. It’s just that we don’t know if they are “higher” or “lower” unless they are the same note of different octaves. I had a hard time playing any instrument because I had a hard time figuring out if a note was out of tune because I just thought it was a flat or sharp of some note😢
can non tone deaf people have similar experiences? before i started playing bass i always felt weird because i couldnt always tell if a note was higher or lower than another one. but after playing bass for a while and actually making music my ear has gotten a lot better and i dont really have this problem anymore. i know im not tone deaf because i actually have always had a decent ear, and thats why this problem was kind of confusing for me.
The way hoodie guy and his mom just sounded like Morgan freeman after that note made me laugh so damn hard at 2:23
My choir teacher must resonate with this
Ok I wont
@Don't Read My Profile Photo ok
As someone who plays most songs by ear this was painful. Also the computer voice is too funny.
Well if you can play songs by ear you are definitely not tone deaf. So how why is this painful? I would imagine it would be funny or something
@@TeenPerspektiva it’s painful because I can’t stand seeing someone struggle so much.
A
same
2:14 THE NECK CRACK. *opens eyes tensely*
But what happened in the end? I do not understand.
As someone who is not creative, the fact that people like Daniel can make me laugh for several years in a row feels like nothing short of a miracle
This is my lame attempt at a compliment
Impressive that one of the most musically talented people I’ve ever seen is able to convey tone deafness
I'm not tone def but I do have audio processing disorder and it makes it so some sounds and words sound indestinguishable from each other. I often have to ask people to repeat themselves because I don't understand what they are saying sometimes. My former dad used to insist that I was making it up because he could tell it wasn't a physical hearing issue. But it is a nuerological issue, that commonly effects nuerodiverse peoples, that I'm now diagnosed with. I love to sing and make music despite this. I've been in choir before. I love music and can sing along well.
When I first found out about auditory processing disorder I was glad because it perfectly explains why I have to ask everyone I talk to to repeat themselves at least 8 times in any conversation. Also I'm neurodivergent, so it checks out.
You are an awesome person! I'm being serious.
It usually comes most commonly in people with adhd. I can hear music and tones perfectly well (actually better than most), but if I'm in a crowd and someone is trying to say something to me, I hear it perfectly fine, but it just doesn't seem to make any sense among the plethora of background noise. It basically goes: No compute, I give up, too much effort, lol
@@freshestavacado9195 You know, seeing as how I have adhd, this is actually a really good explanation for why I have so much trouble understanding people even when I have my hearing aids in.
I know there is a whole story here, but I just cant help finding the words "Former Dad" a bit odd lol
This feels incredibly relatable as a neurodivergent person. The "Come on just do the thing you absolutely can't do! You just gotta try!"
I was cringing the entire time. It's so painful to hear those words "All you gotta do is try/practice!" NO THATS NOT HOW THIS WORKS "Sure it does"
"just be better"
"stop faking it" or "you're just doing that to get attention"
"No, but come on like try for real."
I assure you I am at maximum try ;~;
just ask these guys if they can benchpress 1000 kg, can fly or read minds. if they say no: you just gotta try harder then.
My mom plays piano and ukulele, and is mildly tone deaf. She can hear what notes are what, tell the diference between major and minor scale, she can do everything... _except hit the proper notes when singing somehow._ She's always an octave/half an octave higher. I don't know how that works at all. But she's well aware, and gets a laugh out of it. I can hit a lot of mid to low range notes from a lot of male singers (I'm 27f at the time of this comment), and my younger brother can hit _really_ deep notes, so the three of us have started harmonizing to music in the car. It's so much fun.
In all seriousness, the “tone deaf portrayal” of the songs would be FANTASTIC for a quiz show.
“Piano. Piano. Piano. Piano. Harmonica. Harmonica harmonica.”
“It’s… piano man?”
Petition for Daniel to do a cover of ‘Welcome to the Internet’
But make it melodramatic and sappy
@daniel please
YES
But in a way higher key cause Daniel is a tenor and Bo is a bass baritone and It would just be cool to hear it done differently like that.
He commented on Bo's video actually! It'd be fun if he was up for it
I love Daniel's subtle cry for help when he brought out that horsewhip
Oh, that's not a horse whip, Daniel is a freak.
Subtle…
Why does he have that...😅
Ya..definitely not a horse whip..
so glad someone brought it up
but oh... dear sweet summer child, that is NOT a horse whip (also who even calls it a horse whip? are you thinking of a riding crop?)
1:52 caught me so off guard 😂😂😂😂
omg this is actually so amazing. love videos like this that take something familiar and totally put you in the shoes of another person. super well done. this reminds me of How English sounds to non-English speakers
1:11 I lost it when he used the electric piano!
Ah, my favorite song is the one that goes like flute, flute piano, piano. It's so beautiful.
For those of you who are nerds like me and want to know what tone deafness is actually like after watching this video:
True tone deafness is called amusia and can be congenital (affecting about 4% of the population) or caused by brain damage.
People with this condition aren't able to recognize wrong or very out of tune notes or familiar melodies. They have difficulty or an inability to perceive differences in pitch (low note vs high note) though they can tell differences in timbre (piano vs guitar). Amusic people often find music unpleasant or annoying.
So although this is obviously a humorous exaggeration, Daniel didn't get anything wrong per se.
That would suck, music is incredible.
As someone who has played an instrument for ten years. What the fuck. I can imagine this. Like not being able to tell the difference between the highest note on the piano and the lowest one is insane for me.
thanks
As someone who plays piano, this would absolutely suck. I rely a ton on my hearing, especially to check if I pressed the wrong or right key
@@deltablaze77 i know right :(
I am definitely tone deaf. When I was at secondary school we always did major musicals with thousands of people attending but I never had anything but chorus parts yet I always won the school drama prize for acting in small plays so the music teacher decided 'he was going to teach me to sing'. Two hours later he had me stood by a grand piano playing notes at me and making me sing the tune. Well, he eventually admitted defeat after another two hours with the words 'wow you really are tone deaf'.
Didn't stop him making me organise an entire choral concert to sing the Nelson Mass sometime later just because I accidentally said to him in passing that it would be a great idea to raise money for a local charity at Xmas by holding a choral concert in a local church. Music teachers never give up hope! 😁
Question then, when you're at the piano attempting to sing in tune, do you not hear it then? The tones clashing? Does it just sound like.. nothing?
@@Raev222 I can hear the difference between notes that are played slowly say half an octave apart but I cant mimic them with my voice. I can make my voice 'high' or 'low' but how high or low I simply have no clue. I find it almost impossible to distinguish which notes are 'higher' and which notes which are 'lower' if they are close together in tone and played quickly one after another in a normal piece of music. I can hear a scale progression from low to high if it is played slowly but once the notes are randomised I have no clue.
For someone who is clearly a very gifted musician who has near perfect pitch, Daniel shows in his video a remarkable sense of what is really like for someone less gifted than he is. I really do hear 'high-guitar, drum, high-guitar, low-guitar', 'drum' when I listening to rock music for example. I hear rhythm not tone if that makes sense.
I didn’t know much about tone deafness at the time, but through mutual determination of everyone my grandmother taught my grandfather who had gone deafness to sing in a barber shop quartet. My grandmother and myself love singing and have experience in it, and after trying to teach him he because more dedicated. It worked! I don’t know what helped him, but he loves singing and music, it made him so happy. ☺️
I asked my dad if this is really how he always hears music.
He said no he doesn't hear music that way. He says "Sometimes I use headphones, and sometimes I don't."
So glad a big youtuber like daniel managed to get such a unknown person like morgan freeman to voice in his skit. Proud of you for giving smaller actors a job
No one gonna talk about the flogger at 1:45 ??? *WHY DOES DANIEL HAVE A FLOGGER*
THATS WHAT IM SAYIN MAN-
What is hilarious is I got an ad before this video on hearing aids 😂
how can people like that even have a conversation? human speech has so much intonation in it!
I am still training on not being tone deaf and if I am being honest this is surprisingly accurate and the more I train the more I understand the insults people threw at my old covers and pieces-
I think if you can train your way past it, it's not "true" tone deafness, just a poor ear. Thankfully you can correct that with practice, because that's a pretty common condition!
@@keepinmahprivacy9754 true actually, I noticed myself getting less and less tone deaf by transcribing and listening to more music, I definitely can't tell what a note is just by hearing it yet but I can definitely tell when it sounds off
Why did I crack up? 1:02
WHEN IT WAS PIANO AND HARMONICA, I new it was piano man 😂😂😂
@DontReadMyProfilePhoto_2 Oops. Too late.
@DontReadMyProfilePhoto_2 I read your name. Then I read your profile photo. It had a message telling me not to look under my kitchen sink. I looked and there was a note telling me not to open the can of alphabet soup I bought. I opened the can and took out all those spaghetti letters. I arranged them a hundred different times looking for a meaning and then I found it "previous commenter is gae".
My Dad is tone-deaf and cannot sing to save his life, but he loves music. He has no concept of sound quality and is more than happy listening to his favorite songs on TH-cam set to 360p. He doesn't know the difference and is happy with that. Ignorance is truly bliss.
OH MY GOD. THANK YOU. I rely almost solely on rhythm and lyrics to identify songs. Occasionally there's a really distinctive instrument in a song that helps me identify it, like one song by DM Dokuro for the Calamity mod soundtrack that has "Calamity Bells." That said, if you were to show me any other song that had a similar intro, I might not know the difference. Centuries and... What was it, Tom's Diner? They sound identical.
On the plus side, 98% of the time i will not recognize if something is wrong with a song. Most of that 2% Megalovania because I listened to it and several variations obsessively as a teen, which has enabled me to pick up on the tone differences much more easily. It helps when my tone-deaf mother tries to sing.
Piano man is actually pretty easy for me to recognize. It's got a distinctive piano opening that I don't usually hear on the radio stations I listen to EXCEPT for that song.
If you make me do karaoke I will cry so hard I throw up. I have several memories of finding instrumentals to favorite songs and not recognizing them at all. Do not make my tone-deaf ass sing to music I cannot remotely begin to understand in tone or (without words) timing.
0:28 I was not ready lmao
As a tone deaf percussionist, I literally cannot tell if a scale is going up or down 😭😭
Don't worry, as long as you can count to 1, you're fine. 😉 (sorry, just a little percussionist on percussionist violence there lol. couldn't help myself!)
@@m0L3ify no fr I took AP Music Theory and my teacher curved my grade from a D to a B because he felt so bad
@@caracheyenne8839 Music Theory is tough for sure. I'm glad your teacher was compassionate about it! I mean...what can you do?
Do you still listen to music? Like percussion albums or something?
@@ictogon I listen to any and all music I just don’t hear the full range of notes and I can’t decipher between notes 🤷🏼♀️ it’s really hard to explain but if you heard me try to sing you would understand 🫣
It’s good to see Daniel doing another piano sketch.
1:50-1:56 “does this sound happy or sad?”
Can I get a large pepperoni?
THAT’S ROMANTIC!!!
I didn't believe that tone deaf people could learn to sing through practice until I met my husband. It is remarkable. I do not have that level of skill and dedication for almost anything. I either just do something automatically or I don't.
For years, I would make fun of my family’s haunted choir when they’d sing happy birthday. I thought, how can I be the only one in my family who can hold a tune? I finally figured it out that it’s one of my sisters who drags everyone down but everyone else sounds fine when she’s not around. Thank you for bringing to light her terrible condition and what she hears when she listens to the radio!
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At 2:48 I only hear "Synthesizer, Synthesizer, Synthesizer, Synthesizer..."
"Come on, blindness isn't real, you just have to try harder"
I played piano for a show once, and I was warned beforehand that a guy in the cast was always going to ask me to play "his note" beforehand. The note in question was a genuinely tricky harmony, but there was zero chance he'd retain it for 30 minutes so it was completely pointless. But I was assured that it was easier to just play along because "he's tone deaf anyway". The routine was, he'd come ask for his note; I'd play it; he'd sing the wrong note; I'd gently coax him up to the right pitch; he'd walk away looking very dissatisfied.
But on the third or fourth time, I realized something pretty extraordinary. He wasn't singing a random wrong note. It was always the *same* wrong note. A fifth below. So when that dawned on me, I tried playing the note up a fifth, and he sang the pitch I wanted instantly.
Therefore, he hears his relationship with the music at a harmonic.
Knowing that, all I had to do was orient his singing to how he hears, and it was never a problem again.
I had no idea that was possible. CONSISTENTLY a fifth below?! The human brain is astonishing. Thanks for sharing.
Daniel has a talent for taking basic premises to completely unhinged levels of farce, and I love it.
As someone who is tone deaf, it's so true! It has its ups and downs; on one hand, you can't play or judge the quality of any music, but on the other hand, all speakers sound the same. Even the cheap ones.
I’m just impressed that Dennis managed to become a world-famous musician back in “When You Compliment a Musician but Don’t Mean It” while being tone deaf this whole time
0:52 I watched that like 30 times
The way they pulled out the flogger I about died. 🤣
2:26 at least he heard iphone ringtone
Not tone deaf, but this reminds me of when I lived in a youth home at 16 and one of the guys brought me to his room to check out his new sound system. He made sure I sat in the "right spot" and he looked so proud, and all I could do was smile and nod when he asked if I could hear how much better it sounded. I have ADHD, don't ask me to compare to something I heard a month ago, lol
I had a roommate who actually had a beautiful singing voice, but for the love of all that sounds great... she just couldn't hold a tone or note. I think now I finally understand why
Not being able to hold a note usually just implies poor vocal control and an inaccurate internal voice. Tone deafness means they literally can't distinguish different notes and can't comprehend chords and progressions, it just sounds like random notes with no correlation.
I'M SO CONFUSED I JUST GOT AN AD WITH YOU IN IT WHILE I WAS WATCHING THIS VIDEO
It's amazing how people like this guy who are tine deaf have very strong musical opinions.
I'll never forget when i asked someone to sing the vocal melody of we will rock you and they began just tapping thier legs. Tap tap tap. Tap tap tap.
I wonder what he used that whip for outside of shooting sketches
02:00 little bit Gilbert Gottfried 😂
As someone who is tone deaf, I can confirm this is totally one hundred percent accurate.
I can kind of relate… I have perfect pitch and married someone who can’t carry a tune if it had a handle on it 😂 I’m a huge music lover, I also play piano and guitar. Sometimes we’ll be listening to a song and I’ll hear this AMAZING key change. It’s subtle, but it sticks out to me like a sore thumb. I’ll play it for my husband and ask him excitedly if he thought the key change was amazing also and he didn’t notice it. Even when I point at the exact moment it changes keys, nope… still doesn’t hear it. Even if it’s a really obvious key change, he often can’t tell. There’s a part in Tubular Bells (the theme from The Exorcist) where the notes are switched. He can’t tell that, either, even though I think it’s very obvious. Our (adult) kids can’t really tell, either. One day I played it for my mother and she found it as obvious as me, but to be fair, she also plays piano and we both sang in school chorus. Actually, her side of the family was very deistic and musically inclined going way back, so maybe that’s why? I don’t know, but it’s frustrating that my husband can’t hear these marvelous things and my kids often can’t hear them either. At least my kids seem to love music as much as I do, especially my youngest. He has a taste range as broad as my own 😊
This is absolutely brilliant, you inspire me tremendously to create amazing skits like this one. You are the man!!!
As someone with perfect pitch, I am astounded on way these people live.
‘Astounded’ not really until you know a good chunk of people think neither in images or language.. many are rather incapable of picturing any image in their imagination (aphantasia).
@@AkshaySharma-ut6rv I had a therapist when I was in the mental hospital argue with me for nearly 15 minutes because she insisted that all people think in images and I disagree. Doesn't compute to me at all. When I think of something, I can recall how to describe it, perhaps where I interacted with it last if it's an object or when I'd seen them last and things I know about them if it's a person. I don't "see" images in my mind in the same way I "hear" music/words in my mind. I can play back songs very accurately in my head. I can give myself the chills imagining the intro to brahms violin concerto, and how the instruments swell into the solo violin. I can hear the words others have spoken in their voice and cadence. I don't have perfect pitch (sadly) but I do have really good relative pitch. When I try to "picture" something it's like a vague impression, there's not really anything there but my ability to describe the thing with words. I "can" visualize to a degree if I have reference in front of me, such as imagining how a shape would look if it's been rotated, but without any physical stimuli it's nearly impossible to visualize to any practical degree. I think aphantasia is still an incredibly misunderstood subject and there's a massive issue with terminology and our ability to objectively describe how we experience thought. I don't know if I have aphantasia because I'm not sure if I understand how other people actually visualize things. Like with imagining sound, I don't hear it with my ears, I hear it in my mind. I don't really have a visual equivalent to that, and it seems from what i've read the average person would say that they do. Its a really fascinating topic.
I'm not only tone deaf but I'm missing my mid range and half my low range so unless i turn treble off everything sounds like metal in a garbage disposal.
@@whatbroicanhave50character35 My case is precisely the same as yours about mental imagery. I don’t think in images but I can visualise very vaguely.. like very specific highlights and, relative orientations. It is essentially just a sense of awareness that I use to explain. I don’t think in words either.
I am very good at relative pitch too haha. Helps me in composing music. I can sing in my head but not really listen to it like you do.
@@AkshaySharma-ut6rv The inability to imagine things is actually incredibly rare, dunno what you mean by ''good chunk of people''. Probably a bigger chunk than you can bite off but likely such a small chunk that every single person with no imagination could fit into a relatively small apartment building. If you can visualize anything at all no matter how dull it may seem, you don't have aphantasia, you just have an underdeveloped ability to imagine. You can train this, or at least i was able to and was able to go from a pretty dull imagination to being able to vividly imagine things to the point where they pop out even against a real world background.
I'm tone deaf, but I still love music, I just can't sing for the life of me. I feel so bad for the people who had to listen to me every school year for our annual Christmas performances for eight years. I butchered everything from ABBA to cherished Christmas sons, just because everyone had to participate ;P
But... that's not what tone deaf is... that's just being bad at singing.
often I've worked with people who thought they were tone deaf but the problem actually wasn't in hearing the music, it was more in how they were physically singing, i.e. mouth shape or breathing etc etc. If you really wanted to learn to sing, please don't give up because you may not be tone deaf after all. :)
You can still learn to sing even if you are tone deaf at some extent. It's really hard, but it's possible.
It only matters if you have fun, but it might be nice way to expand your horizons.
Singing is a physical skill that requires a lot of practice and muscle memory in order to develop the control throughout your vocal tract to hit the notes you want to hit. If you try to sing a specific note, hit the wrong note, and can tell that you're singing the wrong note, then you're not tone deaf. Tone deaf people literally cannot distinguish different notes from one another.
I believe being tone deaf is not something binary (either you are, or you arent), it’s more likely something you can have more, or less of it, and also in most cases, something you can train to fix
Piano, piano, piano, piano.. truly a work of art 🙏
I never knew that tone deafness could be, let alone has been like this. seems like i have something interesting to search up now instead of aimlessly browsing youtube
also-no fault of urs Dan-but I hate hoodie guy after 0:34 bc he just ignores what his friend had just blatantly said about how his hearing works, and won't accept how differently his brain works
"you're going to have to try harder than that" especially got me screaming internally
Morse code:
1:22 YOU'RE TONE
1:32 DEAF
2:05 Man I barely even hear it, some help please?
I don't want to be a huge downer, but I also went to SCAD.
I was there for one semester, three kids had died on campus, one directly behind my dorm building by jumping off the bridge. There was an ambulance outside my dorm at least once a week. So many of those kids needed help that they never got.
I'm not trying to convince anyone to not go there, but it can be extremely expensive and I was honestly shocked that such tragic events happened. If Dan had a good time, then I'm glad to hear it. I was just personally really disgusted with the place and that it managed to get a good reputation with shit like that happening. I'm still trying to pay off that one semester.
This place was actually in Georgia and in Savannah specifically. If you know what you want to do and what you want to go for, then go for it. Just be careful. I don't know why I felt compelled to leave this whole lore dump, but I did.
Have a good day everyone, be safe.
a couple of my friends actually want to go to SCAD so this is actually very helpful. high end schools tend to be very stressful but hearing from someone who went there just confirms my suspicions. i’ll be sure to at least warn them of the stuff they’ll take on if they end up going.
Not just this, but SCAD has also contributed immensely to the growing gentrification of the city, exacerbating the poverty and disparity a great deal, mostly affecting families who have been there generationally.
@@PhoenixGodwin that's literally every college that isn't located in a major city
Also a graduate of SCAD. If you like seeing Wallace spend all of your tuition money on a lavish lifestyle, knock yourself out
SCAD is a huge scam. I went there for a graduate degree and the education was a joke. Worse Paula Wallace the president is a horrible woman who has used SCAD as her and her family’s personal trust fund, enriching herself with $2 million a year and flying private jets. It’s so bad that the FBI investigated SCAD to see if it could even be classified as a non profit anymore. DONT GO TO SCAD it is a waste of time and money
Daniel gets consecutively more into very specific things and then works them out into something insane. I absolutely adore it, the growing intensity in the things his videos are about is always insanely funny.
Love how this is the first sketch Daniel’s made with a piano in ages and we don’t even get to hear it
I've never forgotten my confusion when a friend long ago told me she just didn't like music. I never asked why, but later wondered if she'd been deprived of music, somehow, growing up. Actual tone deafness never occurred to me. Being deprived of music perception seems to me a very hard loss.
Edwin Gordon did a study that displayed that musical aptitude (a person's potential to learn music) is pretty much determined by musical training and exposure before the age of 8! Students in the study were asked to do things like echo rhythms and tell which pitch was higher/lower. Before the age of 8, scores improved dramatically from year to year. After the age of 8 (all the way up to 18), there was not much change in scores from year to year!
That's unrelated to this video though
Why does Daniel just have the flogger on hand at 1:40
This is how I feel when people tune their guitar by ear and then go "ah much better" but to me it doesn't sound any different. Also I can't tell bands of the same genre apart AT ALL. I wish I could find joy in music like many of my friends do. However, ASMR is the best thing ever
Oh, I didn't realize my "very male country singer sounds the same" or "every emo band sounds the same" was a tone deaf thing. I do agree that ASMR is the best thing ever, although for me music is a type of ASMR, if it is complex enough, because I really like unpredictably, and complex music can get pretty unpredictable.
@@hurpdurp123 Well tone deaf is probably the extreme version haha. YES all emo bands sound the same to me. My ex boyfriend was suuuper into emo and would sometimes ask me "Which band is this?" and I never had a clue despite the fact that we had heard the same song many times, live and on CD. Probably a reason why we're now exes xD
I'm crying at that "AH" and the tv static key.
The mention of 'Take my horse to the old town road' gave me wiplash since the commercial that played before this played that song
My tone deaf friend says it sounds like 2 notes playing at the same time, except together it just makes the music sound waaaaaaaay out of tune.
he said it's really hard to explain fully though.
This is similar to showing technical metal to your non metal friends.
True story. They just say "what's that noise"?