I know its Eddie's fault that Mitch says you would scry 2 but the way the ability works you would scry one twice as it says copy the ability not double the ability. As long as you always put the first card on the bottom he wouldn't be wrong.
One thing I enjoy about her precon, and deck in general, is you can almost do all old border cards. Playing mono brown artifacts can put newer players on tilt 😂
Dreamscape artist doesn't put the lands into play tapped so you're actually gaining mana by activating it. Little bit of Freed from the real action and you can fetch all your lands with enough cards in hand.
i know the goal isnt to list all of them, but i do feel sad that every time these doubling effect commanders are listed that wulfgar is never mentioned
@@ghostman263 its stronger than you think 🤣 Mardu is good and got access to boros shinanigans like winota and aurelia. It doesnt have to be samurai tribal it can be a mixed goodie bag of attack triggers like krenko or alesha and skyknight vanguard style effects and its really good i believe its top 10 most played commander in the last 2-3 years
@@mibbzx1493 yeah I know, still. Seen enough of the winota and Aurelia shit for a lifetime. Doesn't interest me, which is weird bc creature based bs is usually my jam
Sorry to inject more Warhammer into the conversation, but I find it funny that most of Ashnod's nightmare experiments put her well inline with just an average Admech Tech Priest.
I would love to build this, but someone hacked my MTGO account, and stole almost all of my cards. Daybreak blamed me for not changing my password in the last three weeks. Of course, they also didn’t want me to tell people that there are no safeguards for people brute forcing someone’s password. And it won’t send you anything to let you know if someone is brute forcing your password, or changing said password
I would recommend Gem of Becoming instead of Burnished Hart for this deck. Getting 6 lands (fetchable ones if you have them too) instead of 4 is nuts. I use it in an Anhelo deck and after seeing Ashnod, it was the first ramp card I thought of. It's also extremely budget friendly! It has the same mana value with 150% of the value, so check it out!
It puts the cards into your hand though, it doesn’t ramp you. It’ll take you 6 turns to play all those lands, you have enough draws with baubles and the like in this deck to not be worried about missing land drops.
While I agree, six is better, it puts them into the hand, though it DOES set up your draws to be more likely to be gas instead of lands, which is always good, thinning the deck is good .
@@HiddenOcelot deck thinning is a nice bonus, but the difference between being up 4 mana on your next turn vs not being up any mana or 1 max if it did result in you not missing your land drop is huge. Deck thinning is nice but I really wouldn’t over value it in any format, but especially commander where you have a 100 card deck. 4 vs 6 is a 2 card difference in a 100 card deck is a very slim percentage point margin.
No, Braids is a triggered ability if an abilty starts with when, whenever or at the beginning it's a trigger Ashnod only cares about activated abilities
For artifacts, Daretti Scrap Savant can be used as a reset button to allow you to sacrifice things multiple times. With Luxior either Daretti would also be a creature and get double effects
I know people say 3 cost mana rocks suck now but I think this deck would be great for the lockets and cluestones! Fix and ramp early and doubling the cards drawn late! I think they are sleepers here and worth 1 more mana then the talismans here.
Ahh ok, that makes sense. I just always read it as a mana ability being part of the activation cost. Thanks for the clarification. Ashnod’s would indeed be sick!
Can I point out that the golden pig seems like a bit of an overstatement? Don't get me wrong but most of the triggers are already creatures or artifacts?
Mitch suggests that we can turn on lands, but there are only 12 land cards that works with liquid metal coating... 🤔 Golden Pig should have better pay off with the whole deck. I blame Eddie...
Marionete master is always a good closer, tezzeret master of the bridge is also good if you need to start converting value into into damage and bolas citadel is always a good option
That's the idea of Liquimetal Coating in this deck. He didn't go into it, (even though he says he would), but he's running a bunch of fetchlands that would usually be suboptimal. For instance, bad river isn't really all that much better than a guild gate. But since you can use liquimetal coating on them, you can use them to ramp in this deck.
Honestly I was making this deck when it was first spoiled and as I was making it, it felt so incredibly boring to make and play test as well. It truly boils down to double sack triggers, so you just put the usual suspects. I much prefer the other mono black version of Ashnod, much more interesting, a lot of different ways to be built.
I preferred to make her a mill deck with altar of dementia. you can also use specific things like the flip cards that give you abilities when they die (the red one from original kamigawa does GREAT for this). Can turn the deck into mill, which is good with a control shell for ashnod.
you can also use recursion of artifacts to keep the altar on the field even if it's destroyed, give yourself the ability to make more treasures on creatures, and you can kaldrotha forgemaster any artifact from your deck you want. You can also use Tamiyo's journal to get cards from your library as you please by sacrificing three clues.
anything with triggers that happen on sacrifice, like say Razaketh, work great too. This is only to get the real win cons, which would be the mill cards lol.
Yes without the requirement of a 2 power creature. But this is just overpowered. The only thing that I think holds it back is it's 5 CMC rightfully so. It's so easy to get the effects started.
why does Liquimetal coating get the golden pig, and not Liquimetal Torque, which has the exact same ability, manacost, but can also tap for a mana? 9i would run both as golden pig tbh. you even name it in the segment after the pig when talking about Vampiric rites...
@@Talokir yeah, the proper fetches are expensive, but expanse, wilds, myriad landscape and the panoramas are pennies and fabled passage is fairly cheap these days as well. You’re probably right tho torque could be the best in the deck still. Depends if you need it as a rock or you wanna get some early ramp in. I think the deck need both equally personally
What exactly is "incredibly powerful" here? Most of the permanents sacrifice themselves, so they are single use. Spending 5 mana for a commander should bring a major effect, this effect requires really strong abilities like Minslaver to be useful.
@@planetfucksquad Theoretically, it CAN be "mad useful", but in practice there aren't much good abilities that Ashnod could double. While there is really a lot of powerful ETB triggers for Yarok.
Disagree with power level any playable combo that will win you the game involving sacs are already infinity. Só ashnod brings nothing to the table. I already test proxy her ok both high power and low power tables.
![30 ชั่วโมงคนเดียว บนรถไฟชั้น 3 โซเวียต [Around The World Ep. 2]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/MlE9boAVqDA/mqdefault.jpg)
I know its Eddie's fault that Mitch says you would scry 2 but the way the ability works you would scry one twice as it says copy the ability not double the ability. As long as you always put the first card on the bottom he wouldn't be wrong.
5:56 "And we are going to theses lands in a bit"
"Never explains why evolving wilds works with liquimetal coating"
Well hopefully it's obvious that if you make your land an artifact that any fetch ability would get doubled
Sac-harmonicon...
Also Ruthless Knave's second ability would also double trigger since your sacing 3 permanents.
Liquimetal Torque would be a great include since its just like Liquimetal Coating, but its a mana rock as well
Doesnt work on lands
It could have busted the budget, but yeah. It's an amazing card
2:33 First up! Have a safe weekend, and double the fun!
Love these omega level commanders. I know you guys have done a couple for the reaper king but it would be cool to see him at maximum potential
Doug Y's Too-Specific Top 10 - Ashnod Pod article on EDHREC is a really fun and unique strat with this commander. I recommend reading through it.
6:30, just on the scry, is it actually scry 2 or rather 2x scry 1? Makes a diff if you don't put the first scry on the bottom
I've been waiting for a video about Ashnod on your guy's channel!!!!
oh you're right, ashnod has deathtouch *chuckles maniacally while holding street urchin*
Fain, the Broker
Toggo, Goblin Weaponsmith
Vermin Gorger
Spawning Pit
Fleshwrither
Moonsilver Key
Grinning Totem
Mindslaver. Take control of two players during their turns.
🤮
@@MrDeathbydying 😂😅
One thing I enjoy about her precon, and deck in general, is you can almost do all old border cards. Playing mono brown artifacts can put newer players on tilt 😂
Mikeaus the unhallowed has some good synergy with cards like pentavus and pitiless plunderer
Dreamscape artist doesn't put the lands into play tapped so you're actually gaining mana by activating it. Little bit of Freed from the real action and you can fetch all your lands with enough cards in hand.
i know the goal isnt to list all of them, but i do feel sad that every time these doubling effect commanders are listed that wulfgar is never mentioned
Cuz isshin took his crown
@@mibbzx1493 isshin is cool, but the colours lead to a slower game plan (the samurai focus doesn't work as well, imo) so it isn't for me.
@@ghostman263 its stronger than you think 🤣 Mardu is good and got access to boros shinanigans like winota and aurelia. It doesnt have to be samurai tribal it can be a mixed goodie bag of attack triggers like krenko or alesha and skyknight vanguard style effects and its really good i believe its top 10 most played commander in the last 2-3 years
@@mibbzx1493 yeah I know, still.
Seen enough of the winota and Aurelia shit for a lifetime. Doesn't interest me, which is weird bc creature based bs is usually my jam
Sorry to inject more Warhammer into the conversation, but I find it funny that most of Ashnod's nightmare experiments put her well inline with just an average Admech Tech Priest.
I would love to build this, but someone hacked my MTGO account, and stole almost all of my cards. Daybreak blamed me for not changing my password in the last three weeks. Of course, they also didn’t want me to tell people that there are no safeguards for people brute forcing someone’s password. And it won’t send you anything to let you know if someone is brute forcing your password, or changing said password
dang somhow i never thought of burnished hart when i was thinking of building my deck
Anje and Blood Fountain from Crimson vow are also pretty broken.
I love anje. She won so many games for me
LOVE me some value. Yarok is one of my pet decks. Might need to pick up ashnod
Currently building her, wicked value engine especially with cards like goblin engineer.
I would recommend Gem of Becoming instead of Burnished Hart for this deck. Getting 6 lands (fetchable ones if you have them too) instead of 4 is nuts. I use it in an Anhelo deck and after seeing Ashnod, it was the first ramp card I thought of. It's also extremely budget friendly! It has the same mana value with 150% of the value, so check it out!
It puts the cards into your hand though, it doesn’t ramp you. It’ll take you 6 turns to play all those lands, you have enough draws with baubles and the like in this deck to not be worried about missing land drops.
@@adambillen5164 That's true! Didn't think about that one there haha
While I agree, six is better, it puts them into the hand, though it DOES set up your draws to be more likely to be gas instead of lands, which is always good, thinning the deck is good .
@@HiddenOcelot deck thinning is a nice bonus, but the difference between being up 4 mana on your next turn vs not being up any mana or 1 max if it did result in you not missing your land drop is huge. Deck thinning is nice but I really wouldn’t over value it in any format, but especially commander where you have a 100 card deck. 4 vs 6 is a 2 card difference in a 100 card deck is a very slim percentage point margin.
@@HiddenOcelot Yeah. Rethinking it as just an add in lol
So hyped for this commander
Would Braids work for the trigger? We sac a land and opponents either sac two lands or lose 4 life and we draw two card?
No, Braids is a triggered ability if an abilty starts with when, whenever or at the beginning it's a trigger Ashnod only cares about activated abilities
Mostly carddraw. I miss some big spells and wincons in this deck apart from death by a thousand cuts on card draw.
I think Sacramonicon is a good way to say it
Daretti is great for this deck, especially if you lean into the artifact side
Daretti isnt a creature nor an artifact Tho. :)
For artifacts, Daretti Scrap Savant can be used as a reset button to allow you to sacrifice things multiple times.
With Luxior either Daretti would also be a creature and get double effects
I know people say 3 cost mana rocks suck now but I think this deck would be great for the lockets and cluestones! Fix and ramp early and doubling the cards drawn late! I think they are sleepers here and worth 1 more mana then the talismans here.
Trayzn would love to be in this deck
I'm still a bit confused about the "Isn't a mana ability" and the fact that Wayfarer's Bauble works. Isn't that a "mana ability?"
Getting a land is not a mana ability. It means the artifact’s ability instantly generates mana. So you can’t use Ashnod’s Altar…which is dumb
Ahh ok, that makes sense. I just always read it as a mana ability being part of the activation cost. Thanks for the clarification. Ashnod’s would indeed be sick!
@@alfascorpi yeah the fact Ashnod can't use Ashnods alter is a little upsetting
@@crazypatchy1a little upsetting? It's an utter flavor fail.
@@crazypatchy1 @Dana Woods Oh no - broken card didn't get more broken! lol. It's fine.
Add Bastion of Remembrance, no ? i don't know :)
Can I point out that the golden pig seems like a bit of an overstatement? Don't get me wrong but most of the triggers are already creatures or artifacts?
Mitch suggests that we can turn on lands, but there are only 12 land cards that works with liquid metal coating... 🤔 Golden Pig should have better pay off with the whole deck. I blame Eddie...
You might ramp twice using this card with the Lands that you find...
Personally with the amount of Ramp I'd put in Braids if that Trigger works and that'd be the golden pig... Just sac a land and draw 6.
Sadly it wouldn't work, btaids is a triggered ability not activated
@@azazelmorningstar5631 ahh true cheers for pointing that out... New card only works for activated...
Liquimetal Torque would be a better golden pig. Could always run both tho.
But liquimetal Torque only targets non-land what exactly does it combo with?
@@MysterMystical Oh shoot my bad
@@JoeyjojoShabadoo7 my first thought was this would be better too! Then looked and saw the same….
Surprised wayfarers bauble wasn’t the golden pig of this deck.
But how do you kill other players?
Marionete master is always a good closer, tezzeret master of the bridge is also good if you need to start converting value into into damage and bolas citadel is always a good option
Do you think this could be built for cedh
Wait if you used liqimetal coating on evolving wilds wouldn't you get 2 lands?
That's the idea of Liquimetal Coating in this deck. He didn't go into it, (even though he says he would), but he's running a bunch of fetchlands that would usually be suboptimal. For instance, bad river isn't really all that much better than a guild gate. But since you can use liquimetal coating on them, you can use them to ramp in this deck.
Honestly I was making this deck when it was first spoiled and as I was making it, it felt so incredibly boring to make and play test as well. It truly boils down to double sack triggers, so you just put the usual suspects. I much prefer the other mono black version of Ashnod, much more interesting, a lot of different ways to be built.
I preferred to make her a mill deck with altar of dementia. you can also use specific things like the flip cards that give you abilities when they die (the red one from original kamigawa does GREAT for this). Can turn the deck into mill, which is good with a control shell for ashnod.
you can also use recursion of artifacts to keep the altar on the field even if it's destroyed, give yourself the ability to make more treasures on creatures, and you can kaldrotha forgemaster any artifact from your deck you want. You can also use Tamiyo's journal to get cards from your library as you please by sacrificing three clues.
anything with triggers that happen on sacrifice, like say Razaketh, work great too. This is only to get the real win cons, which would be the mill cards lol.
Does this work with casualty cards?
Since it says creatures or artifacts, no.
Works with Anhelo I think, but I might be wrong
Seems like Anhelo, but in artifacts and creatures, not instants and sorceries. So, yeah, I would say it's gonna be pretty good.
Yes without the requirement of a 2 power creature. But this is just overpowered. The only thing that I think holds it back is it's 5 CMC rightfully so. It's so easy to get the effects started.
Ashnod secretly a baddy
It's scry 1 twice not scry 2
oooooh no Steve😢
why does Liquimetal coating get the golden pig, and not Liquimetal Torque, which has the exact same ability, manacost, but can also tap for a mana? 9i would run both as golden pig tbh. you even name it in the segment after the pig when talking about Vampiric rites...
Coating can hit lands, torque is non-land. Means coating triggers fetches twice, which is insanely good.
@@planetfucksquad It's definitely great, but this is a budget friendly deck. Fetches are not the most budget friendly lol. I agree with you tho
@@Talokir yeah, the proper fetches are expensive, but expanse, wilds, myriad landscape and the panoramas are pennies and fabled passage is fairly cheap these days as well. You’re probably right tho torque could be the best in the deck still. Depends if you need it as a rock or you wanna get some early ramp in. I think the deck need both equally personally
@@planetfucksquad True!
Bone Splinters? Destroy 2 creatures for one sacrifice
Sadly no, it's only instants and Ashnod only doubles up creatures and artifacts
What exactly is "incredibly powerful" here? Most of the permanents sacrifice themselves, so they are single use. Spending 5 mana for a commander should bring a major effect, this effect requires really strong abilities like Minslaver to be useful.
Doubling triggers is mad useful, go ask Teysa or Yarok players
@@planetfucksquad Theoretically, it CAN be "mad useful", but in practice there aren't much good abilities that Ashnod could double. While there is really a lot of powerful ETB triggers for Yarok.
Disagree with power level any playable combo that will win you the game involving sacs are already infinity. Só ashnod brings nothing to the table.
I already test proxy her ok both high power and low power tables.
Lol this commander will never see any time on the table. This commander is a bit ridiculous
Dreamscape artist doesn't work with ashnod
Yes it does
Discard a card and sacrifice a land then fetches 4 lands with Ashnod on the field.
decently expensive? it's 3 dollars...