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Yeah the chaos gods are only portrayed as being evil but there really not only in 40k is this the case slannesh is not just the god of tits and ass but a multitude of other things as well so is khorne so is nurgle so is tzeentch
Nah, bro is a real one for keeping those failed takes in. Honestly, as someone who tried to do these commentary-like videos before, failing a take always made me unmotivated to do them since it felt like every TH-camr was one taking it, but seeing you f up and keeping it in is great. Good to know it's a natural process. Just thought I'd say this
@@KerriganTyranid Usually when you do video commentaries like this, you'd tend to screw up. This is due to the influence of the Chaos Gods. Most TH-camrs would cut out the parts where they screw up, to appease the Chaos Gods. However, the host of this video did not cut out the part where he screwed up. He faces his screw-ups head on, like a Cadian staring straight at the Eye of Terror.
Origin of chaos goods is in myth of 4 riders of apocalypse BCS W40 K is so unique. 😆 War - Khorn, Plague - Nurgel, Hunger - Slaneesh and Death - Tznitch. 🤣 And reason why Tznitch didnt kill othere chaos goods 😂 bcs they working for him🤨 how u ask ? they creating death. 😆😆😆 strenghening Tznitch.😂😂😂 Whole secrets of chaos goods base story.😂
If I remember right, Slanesh appeared before Fabious Bile as a face that took up the entire sky. Even after that he was like "God's don't exist". I kind of admire that level of stubbornness and denial
Ehh he does but GW can't really figure out how to make him actually fit in without you know either really making him a edge lord or the annoying little brother.
@@elchapojrkimgofthetrap2180nah that’s not what OP is talking about (I think). Malal doesn’t exist in fantasy lore anymore because the creator of it owns the rights to the character and won’t let GW use it. Malice (40k’s version of Malal) does exist because he’s technically a different character and therefore GW can’t be sued for copyright infringement for using him in lore.
I'll have my Timmy moment: Nurgle only loves himself. His daemons are joyful shitheads because they are him, but his mortal followers know nothing but suffering and agony that they've gaslit themselves into accepting as kindness.
I don't even think that's a hot take so much as it's just the actual truth. Nurgle loves you *but only* when you stop taking care of yourself and giving your all to him. All 4 Chaos Gods are literally just the previous statement but written in different fonts.
There's actually debate over if viruses are "alive." Some biologists say self replication is nessaraly for life. Others disagreeing and saying essentially that they evolve like they're alive so they're alive. I don't know, I don't know how much it matters.
I have heard people debate whether they are technically "alive', though let's be real, they're definitely as aspect of life. If we found something akin to a virus on another planet, I'm sure the entire community on earth would say that it has indeed discovered alien life.
@@FroggyTheGroggy By your definition yes viruses are life, issue is thats its the definition that is argued about. I dont even want to get into it honestly since its really a case of the world not fitting in the neat little boxes we try and make for it.
Generally definitions of life that exclude viruses are based on the entity in question being comprised of cell(s) and/or capable of homeostasis. As far as I’m aware at least.
@@irishspartanstudios To be fair most people don't understand anything about neuro-divergent states. Including autism, adhd, psychosis, sociopathy and all the other ones.
6:33 the idea that the chaos gods literally act due to how sentient beings believe those concepts of emotions should work is an honestly really interesting. it honestly has some merit in other settings, namely warhammer fantasy. taal and rhya are two intertwined nature gods, but at one point they were only one god, with the worship of humans changing literally splitting them into two different faces/sides. if it can happen in that sense to lesser gods, i see no reason why it can't be scaled up
I honestly believe that the only way to win is with a galactic scale wiping extinction, kinda like in Halo. It would be a big reset for the warp if suddenly there are little to no beings in the galaxy. The warp will have no one to feed from, Orcs will have no one to fight, and tyranids no one to eat. I think the warp might even become the peaceful paradise it once was. Who knows? maybe the Emperor wanted to wipe the galaxy of life while keeping humanity safe in the webway, that would really make the chaos gods wet their ethereal pants.
The only way for old lore(3 gods born from humanity) to make sense is that each specie spawn their own Chaos Gods but humanity 3 Gods defeated & consumed their counterpart from other species(maybe during the Age of Strife when humanity is both spreaded out all of the galaxy & is in crazy panic mode) & became the sole God of each aspect of Chaos
@@benhibbard4519 I mean the Eldar empire is one of the few that Dark Age humanity empire couldn't overcome. So their gods would be the only ones that could resist human Chaos Gods, until Slaanesh is born & tip the scale. Just my headcanon
@@aokhoinguyenang3992 That isn't true for me.Tyranids at first weren't resistant to plasma fire and have to adapt to warp.If they devour the other galaxies even their smallest scout would have been enough to defeat a platoon of demons and Space marine alike
yeah id rather give slaanesh a hug i already love drugs rather get access to better drugs than be filled with maggots have my guts fall out and stink like shit
I would deal with the superiority complex OF THE MOST HUMBLE of Inquisitors,Eldar or Necron... Actually that sound worse just feed me to the Tyranids and be done with it!
@@EchoObserver9imagine if a piece of your genetic memory manifests as some consciousness within this newly bio mass fed Tyrannid. I think that would suck.
Here are some ideas for consideration: What if every Astartes Legion staged a coup on the Emperor and took over the Imperium? How would they rule it and how successful would it be, compared to the canon Imperium? (this is all legions on the same side with minimal Chaos influence on events) What if 2 Primarchs held the Warmaster position cooperatively, under the assumption that those who would take issue at one Warmaster would respect the other one more and they could thus overall be more productive? Which nonhuman species would be the best fit for Chaos to take over and attain galactic dominance? If any one Loyalist and Traitor Primarch switched sides for the Horus Heresy, who would you choose for the best outcome for either the Loyalists, or the Traitors? What if the Silent King never got rid of his Command Protocols and took (almost) all the Necrons with him out of the galaxy to perhaps find a new and better one and come across the Tyranids? What if the Great Crusade had all the Primarchs and none turned Traitor, but there were no Astartes? What if the Beast Orks succeeded in defeating the Imperium? What if the Raptor Project succeeded/was never sabotaged? How would each Heresy/Crusade-era Primarch and Legion fare against the modern Tau Empire? What if one of the Primarchs landed on a xenos world and was raised by them? What if the Eldar managed to kill Angron before he was enslaved? What if another power rose to power during M31 instead of the Imperium, such as the Ullanor Orks, the Rangdan, or the Necrons via the Silent King returning early? What if the Beast Orks grew to threaten the Imperium before the Heresy could happen? What if the Tyranids arrived in M31, before the Heresy could happen?
With the reveal that the Emperor almost became a chaos god in the Horus Heresy, and the birth of such a being could have resulted in the destruction of Terra much like Slannesh did with the eldar homeworlds, i wonder if Slannesh could well have been a powerful eldar psyker that was tricked into becoming Slannesh, in a mistaken effort to save her race without having anyone to pull her back from the brink.
Aeldari finally figured out how to complete their "God of Death" plan too. So the grand rumble should be entertaining!! Who else has money on the Necrons & their Pokéballs?
They are representations of: Action/Activity. Change/Ambition. Passion/Satisfaction. Life/Growth. They are shaped by every sapient being with a sould! Now pass those through the things through the minds of the average resident that has to suffer from,deal with, and participate in constant wars and genocides... and VOILA You get the chaos gods!
What if the Emperor wasn’t able to reach Nuceria in time to prevent Angron dying from the High Riders? How would having one less available Primarch affect the heresy with more lopsided sides? What would happen to the War Hounds? What would happen to Nuceria? Who do you think would go to Khorne?
Ive followed this channel since 2018 and its so good to see it get better and better, with new fans coming to warhammer this channel should go to the stratosphere where it belongs
I prefer the version where they manifested from the aftermath of the War in Heaven. Still tied the settings’ massive fuckup to the big war, kind of showing how the cataclysm of 60 million years ago sowed the seeds for what would become the Great Game and Horus Heresy. Personally as much as I respect Fabius stance against them, I don’t think it’s objectively true so much as something he needs to believe to be true. While they are naturally inclined to act in such ways as what empowers them which is in part based on the perception of them, the Horus Heresy showed that they could restrain themselves and act objectively when needed. They are capable of reigning it in if it suits their purpose, they are also capable of whim and caprice. They have just enough wherewithal to act as they must when the Great Game is threatened but otherwise maintain their holding pattern of the Game.
@@christiandauz3742 What’s your point? I’m not saying that’s not the canon right now, I just said I prefer the one that came before it. Secondly I dislike the idea of the Necrontyr and Aeldari having some kind of truce way back when, it spoils their ‘bitter ancient rivals’ dynamic in the present setting and shoehorns in Chaos into yet another plot point where it adds nothing. It’s already got the Horus Heresy and the last 10,000 years of the Long War/ Black Crusades and Great Rift to its credit, let the other threats have a background event to themselves. Chaos being a reflection of a galaxy in strife for 60 million years because of the ancient races makes more sense than just saying it was always there.
Honestly I belive the main reason why your not growing as fast as you can is the short length videos. If you go deeper into the lore with your character, slightly more detailed, you would see better growth
What I really like with Majorkill at handling Warp-related topics is he keep emphasized Games Workshop's constant retcons about The Warp and frequent exaggerations with it, that makes digging Warhammer 40K borderline insufferable especially to powerscalers that think Warhammer 40K is the most overpowered settings (especially at misinforming newbies), therefore brushing the more interesting dynamics of how Warp gods works in delicate cycles of ups and downs (including gods of order, gods of chaos, neutral-aligned gods to Galaxy-ending threat like Hivemind's "Shadow in The Warp"), with Emperor as turning point that can shakes things up as so far being the only Warp entity that can permanently shedding chaos by conventional weapons crafted specially by his metaphysical nature Not to mention that lesser warp gods that are Primarchs' souls are working independently from chaos gods, hence other Majorkill theory fits so well with how Primarchs turned into daemon are more of sidegrades than upgrades (not to mention that Daemon Primarch Magnus being kicked so hard constantly despite juiced more by chaos and purged of his righteous shard, being so embarassingly pitiful, therefore showcasing how chaos gods aren't THE be all and end all, not to mention that Tzeentch was horrified with how Kairos was mutated from Well of Eternity visit that he feels like Kairos being so foreign from even his psychic conception of "Change", something that even horrifies chaos gods are THE REAL ELDRITCH bullshits tbh) Very good video and comprehensive for beginners too, it might need some couple deliberations like the primarchs souls being lesser warp gods that grows independently and acts by bending destinies surrounding them (as long as they have self-esteem, so not Conrad Kurze's pitiful mentality), but overall it's already way more than adequate
I imagine The growth of chaos as a fourth dimensional pond of oil in the sea. With time being the character creator slider. Always being there, but not always the same shape.
Technically “no chemicals” would be false even if it was just normal air due to the definition of chemical being literally anything made of atoms of differing elements. The point gets across perfectly fine without the need to be pedantic.
Hey majorkill i think you should do a video on ranking the primarchs on importance! Like there’s videos about who’s stronger or who’s got the best powers but not which one is super important!!
ATTEMPT 69: A video about, what if there were no loyalist elements in the traitor legions, this would also count for omegon and magnus. So there would be no need for the culling at isthvaan and weakening of the traitor forces. Giving the traitors a boost in numbers and cohesion, plus a lot of important named characters. it would be very intresting to see what all the effects would be on the possible succes of the heresy.
F-ing AWESOME! The God Emperor really DID light Nurgle's Garden on fire! That is SO good! I heard from somewhere that he did so with Guilliman! DUDE! I got to get that Plague Wars book! Hopefully it's on Audible!
A video on how things would change if the Chaos Gods were defined more by their positive traits than their negative ones would be kinda neat. Either a singular Chaos God or all four of them (Five if you can put a positive spin on Malal) Heck, even just choosing when this change happens would probably get a few videos if you break it up.
Timmy is back😂 This vid reminds me of weshammers april fools vid about how the chaos gods are the good guys. I really dig the idea that chaos is just a reflection of ourselves
MajorKill just seems like the kind of dude that I'd be down to go get a beer with while Arch is the kind of guy I'd do my utmost to avoid being seen with.
@@Aberinkula9 I knew someone would claim that. But if you think about it, for these gods to have come out stronger than good gods that means over 50% of humans are being evil to each other. I know 40k is grim dark but in the books every other human isn't being evil, it's actually a fairly low percentage. I can't speak for Brazil myself, but I'd be willing to bet that over 50% of the total population isn't made up of violent criminals.
@@Aberinkula9 So according to Wikipedia, the homicide rate in Brazil is about 23 per 100,000 people. Which I guess means around 99.9% of your population are not considering murdering anyone. In general, most people are not actually violent or aggressive, which makes it unlikely that evil thoughts would be able to overwhelm the good ones to produce these evil gods.
@@xTheZapper First of: evil is not only manifested through violent acts between people. Dishonesty and general corruption can be seen in its effects through indirect and "non-concrete" consequences. THAT is the case of Brazil, for instance. And in the case of WH40K, planets like Terra itself, Necromunda, Birmingham, Cretacea, Baal, the ones in the Ghoul Stars and those ruled in the shadows by the Howling Griffons, for instance, are riddled with violence, opression and misery among the very people. Yes, there are "OK" planets (nothing compared with T'au planets and Aeldari's Craftworlds) and Pleasure Planets, but these are the minority. Oh, and the Ecclesiarchy and the Inquisition have a tight grip with an iron hand (no pun intended) to watch over and hunt other gods that are not Big E. The only good God in WH40k is Isha and Nurgle kidnapped her thousands and thousands of years ago. So no, there are no good Gods - and the Emperor is not a full god yet.
@@xTheZapper We have, more or less, a "stable" (if that deserves to be called "stable") death index of 45.000 per year due violent reasons here in Brazil - along with other forms of death that are high. And as I said previously, other forms of evil plague our country due the general corruption of the people here. If that was not the case, we would have been already a first class country CENTURIES ago. You would need to know Portuguese in order to see better the studies HERE in Brazil about how violent and corrupt people here is. We are NOT a nice country with nice people and if another brazilian tell you it is, trust me, he wants to mislead you at minimum.
Honestly, I really hope Vashtoor ascends to become a proper chaos god soon. It would be great to have a logical, polite god who does not backstab everyone or smells like crap.
That moment you know when you f*cked up; is when you have a millisecond existential thought and look down at your body , and for that slight moment you feel everything all at once e with know shock or buffer and get punished by having to live it out in super slow space and nurgle, or nix(sp) making sure you feel every single possible reality feeling of you bursting worse than tetsso basically goin thru the same thing mentally. The agony I can imagine, wouldn’t be tamed by ANYTHING except maybe your (hopefully at this point) genuine prayers and apologies to paw paw Nurgle
"better late than never" dude Benjamin Button the shit out of the algorithm, he started by the scraps at the bottom of the warhammer lore barrel, and is just now coming to the basics of what is 40k
Been saying this for years, to the point I can't remember if I learned it from Majorkill or not. But, "The Chaos Gods are nothing but accidents the Warp happened to vomit out when all the true powers of the galaxy were looking the other way." Their affecting things *before* the War in Heaven doesn't change this. Time is mutable in the Warp after all. And by their own rules, peace in the galaxy WOULD unmake them. Every terrible decision from every character makes sense when you realize these four would be doing EVERYTHING they could at all times to prevent that. Chaos is simultaneously the most powerful, and weakest possible, faction in the setting. I wish more lore would explore that.
Really like the Chaos Gods as definitions of gods. They feel far more abstract and wide scopped then Mytholgoy gods that is close to been a powerful super human then a god.
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Make another fantasy video please! Don’t forget where this channel came from! I
Yeah the chaos gods are only portrayed as being evil but there really not only in 40k is this the case slannesh is not just the god of tits and ass but a multitude of other things as well so is khorne so is nurgle so is tzeentch
Hello Majorkill,
Would you kindly make some lore videos on the Imperial Truth, the Imperial Creed, the Ecclesiarchy? Pretty please? Thank you.
please do not buy fum, it is NOT good for your health at all
Fun is SO fuggin' lame dude. Of all the things you could shill for , it's im the top ten worse
Nah, bro is a real one for keeping those failed takes in. Honestly, as someone who tried to do these commentary-like videos before, failing a take always made me unmotivated to do them since it felt like every TH-camr was one taking it, but seeing you f up and keeping it in is great. Good to know it's a natural process. Just thought I'd say this
Can u elaborate? I'm a 40k newbie.
@@KerriganTyranid Usually when you do video commentaries like this, you'd tend to screw up. This is due to the influence of the Chaos Gods. Most TH-camrs would cut out the parts where they screw up, to appease the Chaos Gods. However, the host of this video did not cut out the part where he screwed up. He faces his screw-ups head on, like a Cadian staring straight at the Eye of Terror.
Origin of chaos goods is in myth of 4 riders of apocalypse BCS W40 K is so unique. 😆
War - Khorn, Plague - Nurgel, Hunger - Slaneesh and Death - Tznitch. 🤣
And reason why Tznitch didnt kill othere chaos goods 😂 bcs they working for him🤨 how u ask ? they creating death. 😆😆😆 strenghening Tznitch.😂😂😂 Whole secrets of chaos goods base story.😂
I appreciate that Majorkill left in his failed takes for the shits and giggles.
@@AbsurdistAsian So this is kinda 40k joke comment?
00:17 Ah yes, the classic tzeentchian spell of "Hippidy hoppidy your tongue is my property"
Almost made me spit out my food xD
Slaanesh also makes use of that spell
@@jakedunkin4728holy fuck 🤣
You actually understand what "Lovecraftian" means and I applaud you for that.
@@Sluggadome_Rotunda_Bernardson Slaanesh: "Well it's more unholy really but you're on the right track"
If I remember right, Slanesh appeared before Fabious Bile as a face that took up the entire sky. Even after that he was like "God's don't exist". I kind of admire that level of stubbornness and denial
If he was a Iron Warrior, he would've made Perturabo proud
Yeah, except his organs were shutting down, and he was pumping himself with drugs just to stay conscious.
Giga atheist Fabious Bile literally looked straight into the eyes of an unfathomable and unknowable god and without stuttering told it it was not real
@@lol_vevotruly one of the few chaos marines that is actually redeemable lmao
To be fair, they’re called chaos gods, but they’re not actually gods
- _"Hey, you forgot Malal!"_
- *_"He doesn't exist, shut up."_*
Malice does
I’m rewatching the speech once a month
Ehh he does but GW can't really figure out how to make him actually fit in without you know either really making him a edge lord or the annoying little brother.
@@elchapojrkimgofthetrap2180nah that’s not what OP is talking about (I think). Malal doesn’t exist in fantasy lore anymore because the creator of it owns the rights to the character and won’t let GW use it. Malice (40k’s version of Malal) does exist because he’s technically a different character and therefore GW can’t be sued for copyright infringement for using him in lore.
In Fantasy, he does exist
I'll have my Timmy moment: Nurgle only loves himself. His daemons are joyful shitheads because they are him, but his mortal followers know nothing but suffering and agony that they've gaslit themselves into accepting as kindness.
That’s a good take
Nah I prefer the twist that the most putrid of the chaos gods is actually the nice guy.
I don't even think that's a hot take so much as it's just the actual truth. Nurgle loves you *but only* when you stop taking care of yourself and giving your all to him. All 4 Chaos Gods are literally just the previous statement but written in different fonts.
Shut up Timmy.
Exactly. I mean being made into a pox walker isn't exactly the greatest show of affection
There's actually debate over if viruses are "alive." Some biologists say self replication is nessaraly for life. Others disagreeing and saying essentially that they evolve like they're alive so they're alive. I don't know, I don't know how much it matters.
I have heard people debate whether they are technically "alive', though let's be real, they're definitely as aspect of life. If we found something akin to a virus on another planet, I'm sure the entire community on earth would say that it has indeed discovered alien life.
All is life. They carry info, and transmit it to reproduce. And are even concious.
@@FroggyTheGroggy By your definition yes viruses are life, issue is thats its the definition that is argued about. I dont even want to get into it honestly since its really a case of the world not fitting in the neat little boxes we try and make for it.
Generally definitions of life that exclude viruses are based on the entity in question being comprised of cell(s) and/or capable of homeostasis. As far as I’m aware at least.
@@sedrie34 you are right, i was taught that same def in school, the problem is that is too narrow...
0:25 FACK..... as a dyslexic who struggles in similar ways, I FELT THIS :)
Amen to that
You actually understand what "Lovecraftian" means and I applaud you for that.
Still doesn't understand what "autism" means, but we'll give credit where credit is due.
@@irishspartanstudios To be fair most people don't understand anything about neuro-divergent states. Including autism, adhd, psychosis, sociopathy and all the other ones.
fabius bile's quote of 'I think, therefore I am. They do not, so they are not' gotta be the hardest line when staring a chaos god down.
My mans was ice cold when he said that shit straight to She who Thirsts face
Yeah except he did admit to serve them by the end of the book. Read.
@@aaronbold8715 homie I’m reading 5 different 40K books alone right now. I’ll get to it when I can.
@@aaronbold8715 Alright? does it change that it was a sick quote even if he bends the knee by the end? no, it doesn't. Fk off lmao.
Your wrong
6:33 the idea that the chaos gods literally act due to how sentient beings believe those concepts of emotions should work is an honestly really interesting. it honestly has some merit in other settings, namely warhammer fantasy. taal and rhya are two intertwined nature gods, but at one point they were only one god, with the worship of humans changing literally splitting them into two different faces/sides. if it can happen in that sense to lesser gods, i see no reason why it can't be scaled up
Love your picture ... hate your username, lmao
Suomi!!!
I honestly believe that the only way to win is with a galactic scale wiping extinction, kinda like in Halo. It would be a big reset for the warp if suddenly there are little to no beings in the galaxy. The warp will have no one to feed from, Orcs will have no one to fight, and tyranids no one to eat. I think the warp might even become the peaceful paradise it once was. Who knows? maybe the Emperor wanted to wipe the galaxy of life while keeping humanity safe in the webway, that would really make the chaos gods wet their ethereal pants.
You actually understand what "Lovecraftian" means and I applaud you for that.
@@cadian122 its from a hearts of iron 4 joke LMAO
@sovietunion7643 okay I gotcha
Mines a Warhammer 40k reference
So we can both bask in our nerdome lol
0:22 lmao he looks like he's having a stroke.😂😂
Since his pre-paid girlfriend split, he probably was 😉
Tzeentch got him
Finally, a video to eat to!
MY MEAL WILL BE LEGENDARY!!
Best thing in the world!
The only way for old lore(3 gods born from humanity) to make sense is that each specie spawn their own Chaos Gods but humanity 3 Gods defeated & consumed their counterpart from other species(maybe during the Age of Strife when humanity is both spreaded out all of the galaxy & is in crazy panic mode) & became the sole God of each aspect of Chaos
Y'know I hadn't considered that. Maybe slaneesh is the only eldaar god surviving because the human gods murdered em all. 😂
@@benhibbard4519 I mean the Eldar empire is one of the few that Dark Age humanity empire couldn't overcome. So their gods would be the only ones that could resist human Chaos Gods, until Slaanesh is born & tip the scale. Just my headcanon
The scary thing is that the warp Gods is only bound at the milky way Galaxy.Imagine other Galaxy version of Warp gods
@@n4mele_c3r63 This also depend on how true the theory that "the Tyranid had already devoured every other galaxies" is
@@aokhoinguyenang3992 That isn't true for me.Tyranids at first weren't resistant to plasma fire and have to adapt to warp.If they devour the other galaxies even their smallest scout would have been enough to defeat a platoon of demons and Space marine alike
I know Mojorkill will be proud to Hear that I finally got my hands on a Lion El’Johnson Mini, that I found in a random comic book store
Mojorkill! Sauron wants to See you!
Just give grandpa nurgle a great big hug and embrace his love
yeah id rather give slaanesh a hug i already love drugs rather get access to better drugs than be filled with maggots have my guts fall out and stink like shit
I would deal with the superiority complex OF THE MOST HUMBLE of Inquisitors,Eldar or Necron...
Actually that sound worse just feed me to the Tyranids and be done with it!
Long as i get to feel happy for once
correct. may nurgles blessing saturate you and gestate.
@@EchoObserver9imagine if a piece of your genetic memory manifests as some consciousness within this newly bio mass fed Tyrannid. I think that would suck.
Here are some ideas for consideration:
What if every Astartes Legion staged a coup on the Emperor and took over the Imperium? How would they rule it and how successful would it be, compared to the canon Imperium? (this is all legions on the same side with minimal Chaos influence on events)
What if 2 Primarchs held the Warmaster position cooperatively, under the assumption that those who would take issue at one Warmaster would respect the other one more and they could thus overall be more productive?
Which nonhuman species would be the best fit for Chaos to take over and attain galactic dominance?
If any one Loyalist and Traitor Primarch switched sides for the Horus Heresy, who would you choose for the best outcome for either the Loyalists, or the Traitors?
What if the Silent King never got rid of his Command Protocols and took (almost) all the Necrons with him out of the galaxy to perhaps find a new and better one and come across the Tyranids?
What if the Great Crusade had all the Primarchs and none turned Traitor, but there were no Astartes?
What if the Beast Orks succeeded in defeating the Imperium?
What if the Raptor Project succeeded/was never sabotaged?
How would each Heresy/Crusade-era Primarch and Legion fare against the modern Tau Empire?
What if one of the Primarchs landed on a xenos world and was raised by them?
What if the Eldar managed to kill Angron before he was enslaved?
What if another power rose to power during M31 instead of the Imperium, such as the Ullanor Orks, the Rangdan, or the Necrons via the Silent King returning early?
What if the Beast Orks grew to threaten the Imperium before the Heresy could happen?
What if the Tyranids arrived in M31, before the Heresy could happen?
With the reveal that the Emperor almost became a chaos god in the Horus Heresy, and the birth of such a being could have resulted in the destruction of Terra much like Slannesh did with the eldar homeworlds, i wonder if Slannesh could well have been a powerful eldar psyker that was tricked into becoming Slannesh, in a mistaken effort to save her race without having anyone to pull her back from the brink.
Nah, is way more consistent with the canon that was the huge ammount of cum&vore energy that birthed Slanesh
Now that is an interesting theory
Aeldari finally figured out how to complete their "God of Death" plan too. So the grand rumble should be entertaining!!
Who else has money on the Necrons & their Pokéballs?
Major should make a video about Gork n Mork and how they are the bestest, strongest, n brutally cunning.
You forgot to add “cunningly brutal.” 😜
He did about 12 hrs ago
... let me just say I GREATLY appreciate leaving the blooper line in. That was great XD
May it net you many laughs and views.
They are representations of:
Action/Activity.
Change/Ambition.
Passion/Satisfaction.
Life/Growth.
They are shaped by every sapient being with a sould!
Now pass those through the things through the minds of the average resident that has to suffer from,deal with, and participate in constant wars and genocides...
and VOILA
You get the chaos gods!
You actually understand what "Lovecraftian" means and I applaud you for that.
Well they were (exempt for Slaanesh she's always been bad)
Now they are:
Bloodshed/war.
Treachery/sham.
Plague/death/decay.
What if the Emperor wasn’t able to reach Nuceria in time to prevent Angron dying from the High Riders? How would having one less available Primarch affect the heresy with more lopsided sides? What would happen to the War Hounds? What would happen to Nuceria? Who do you think would go to Khorne?
Another Primarch + Legion falls to Khorne
Dorn and the Imperial Fists fall to Khorne. Horus wins the Heresy easily
wait! you have does this video before Major. I could swear it.
If it’s flavoured .. it’s not ‘just air’
Ive followed this channel since 2018 and its so good to see it get better and better, with new fans coming to warhammer this channel should go to the stratosphere where it belongs
Like the dark king for the humans, and slaneesh for the eldar, i have always supposed that every chaos god is a paradigma of a fallen great race.
0:33 love the human moment there, word are hard lol
I would like to see a video of Major being the leader of each faction. See how he would run things, and how the galaxy would react. #MajorLeads
I prefer the version where they manifested from the aftermath of the War in Heaven.
Still tied the settings’ massive fuckup to the big war, kind of showing how the cataclysm of 60 million years ago sowed the seeds for what would become the Great Game and Horus Heresy.
Personally as much as I respect Fabius stance against them, I don’t think it’s objectively true so much as something he needs to believe to be true.
While they are naturally inclined to act in such ways as what empowers them which is in part based on the perception of them, the Horus Heresy showed that they could restrain themselves and act objectively when needed.
They are capable of reigning it in if it suits their purpose, they are also capable of whim and caprice. They have just enough wherewithal to act as they must when the Great Game is threatened but otherwise maintain their holding pattern of the Game.
Eldar and Necrons at their peak fought side by side against Chaos during the War in Heaven
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What’s your point? I’m not saying that’s not the canon right now, I just said I prefer the one that came before it.
Secondly I dislike the idea of the Necrontyr and Aeldari having some kind of truce way back when, it spoils their ‘bitter ancient rivals’ dynamic in the present setting and shoehorns in Chaos into yet another plot point where it adds nothing. It’s already got the Horus Heresy and the last 10,000 years of the Long War/ Black Crusades and Great Rift to its credit, let the other threats have a background event to themselves.
Chaos being a reflection of a galaxy in strife for 60 million years because of the ancient races makes more sense than just saying it was always there.
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Chaos is the main and most powerful antagonist in Fantasy/Age of Sigmar so why not 40k?
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It’s already been well established to be a prime antagonist. It doesn’t have to be forced into everything.
Grandpa Nurgle, the Garden tender, loves his creations, chill, always concucting plagues and diseases~ to be shared for everyone~
For Nurgle being so jolly, space hell Santa Clause, Typhus is kind of an asshole lol
1:42 Lets get into it
"Now lets get into it"
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(Half a second later)
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Edit:i muckrd up some spelling
Honestly I belive the main reason why your not growing as fast as you can is the short length videos. If you go deeper into the lore with your character, slightly more detailed, you would see better growth
What I really like with Majorkill at handling Warp-related topics is he keep emphasized Games Workshop's constant retcons about The Warp and frequent exaggerations with it, that makes digging Warhammer 40K borderline insufferable especially to powerscalers that think Warhammer 40K is the most overpowered settings (especially at misinforming newbies), therefore brushing the more interesting dynamics of how Warp gods works in delicate cycles of ups and downs (including gods of order, gods of chaos, neutral-aligned gods to Galaxy-ending threat like Hivemind's "Shadow in The Warp"), with Emperor as turning point that can shakes things up as so far being the only Warp entity that can permanently shedding chaos by conventional weapons crafted specially by his metaphysical nature
Not to mention that lesser warp gods that are Primarchs' souls are working independently from chaos gods, hence other Majorkill theory fits so well with how Primarchs turned into daemon are more of sidegrades than upgrades (not to mention that Daemon Primarch Magnus being kicked so hard constantly despite juiced more by chaos and purged of his righteous shard, being so embarassingly pitiful, therefore showcasing how chaos gods aren't THE be all and end all, not to mention that Tzeentch was horrified with how Kairos was mutated from Well of Eternity visit that he feels like Kairos being so foreign from even his psychic conception of "Change", something that even horrifies chaos gods are THE REAL ELDRITCH bullshits tbh)
Very good video and comprehensive for beginners too, it might need some couple deliberations like the primarchs souls being lesser warp gods that grows independently and acts by bending destinies surrounding them (as long as they have self-esteem, so not Conrad Kurze's pitiful mentality), but overall it's already way more than adequate
Only Rick cared about coherency in the warp, and he wasnt all that coherent, how do you explain the contrary of logic anyways?
The great horned rat being in the thumbnail gotta be the funniest thing i've seen all day
I love the idea that the Warp has given form to these beings because the physical realm. It just seems appropriate that mortals f everything up.
I imagine The growth of chaos as a fourth dimensional pond of oil in the sea.
With time being the character creator slider. Always being there, but not always the same shape.
"No chemicals"
- Flavored Air 🤨
I know, he's not too bright, bless him 😂
Technically “no chemicals” would be false even if it was just normal air due to the definition of chemical being literally anything made of atoms of differing elements.
The point gets across perfectly fine without the need to be pedantic.
@@mcarrowtime7095"without the need for being pedantic" - my friend, have you _met_ WH40K fans?
Hey majorkill i think you should do a video on ranking the primarchs on importance! Like there’s videos about who’s stronger or who’s got the best powers but not which one is super important!!
10:00 um, how does one get a 10,000 year jerk-off planet? Just asking for a friend
There's a friend of mine who'd like to know that too.
2:46 Imagine going to a knight world for the regular tithe and seeing that shit on the wall
"If you want something funny to suck on"- This one is definitely a cultist of Slaanesh in disguise.
That beginning was so f****** good
I know it's hard I'm sorry we love you damn put more of that in your videos
ATTEMPT 69: A video about, what if there were no loyalist elements in the traitor legions, this would also count for omegon and magnus. So there would be no need for the culling at isthvaan and weakening of the traitor forces. Giving the traitors a boost in numbers and cohesion, plus a lot of important named characters. it would be very intresting to see what all the effects would be on the possible succes of the heresy.
Give us a video ranking the chaos gods by who currently has the most power. I think your argument for khorne is good and I want more.
My guy looks likes he's shining with the golden light from the emperor himself
Love that you left the bloopers in. Respect mate.
F-ing AWESOME! The God Emperor really DID light Nurgle's Garden on fire! That is SO good! I heard from somewhere that he did so with Guilliman! DUDE! I got to get that Plague Wars book! Hopefully it's on Audible!
A video on how things would change if the Chaos Gods were defined more by their positive traits than their negative ones would be kinda neat.
Either a singular Chaos God or all four of them (Five if you can put a positive spin on Malal)
Heck, even just choosing when this change happens would probably get a few videos if you break it up.
8:29 "Viruses are just as alive as me and you"
Erm ackchually 🤓
Perfectly captures why emoting is important.
Certain sentences and words just come out slurred if the face is mute.
Could you do a video on the military forces of the Mechanicus/Mechanicum/Dark mechanicum, bitte
Timmy is back😂
This vid reminds me of weshammers april fools vid about how the chaos gods are the good guys.
I really dig the idea that chaos is just a reflection of ourselves
“If you just want something fun to suck on” how can he say that with such a happy straight face ? Lmaoo
8:20 symbolism, the word you are looking is sssssymbolism
We need a channel just like this for roundabouts in 🚦 intersections all over the country.
FEAST UPON THE DELIGHTS OF THIS WORLD!!
Timmy - lost but not forgotten
MajorKill just seems like the kind of dude that I'd be down to go get a beer with while Arch is the kind of guy I'd do my utmost to avoid being seen with.
Arch would try and measure ur skull
18 seconds in...Tzeentch has seized control of Majorkill's speech centres. Lol!!!
In general, the vast majority of humans are actually ok and nice to each other, so really the positive feeling gods should be the most powerful.
Not in WH40k
(And not in places like Philippines and Brazil - and I know about the latter for I live in Brazil)
@@Aberinkula9 I knew someone would claim that. But if you think about it, for these gods to have come out stronger than good gods that means over 50% of humans are being evil to each other. I know 40k is grim dark but in the books every other human isn't being evil, it's actually a fairly low percentage.
I can't speak for Brazil myself, but I'd be willing to bet that over 50% of the total population isn't made up of violent criminals.
@@Aberinkula9 So according to Wikipedia, the homicide rate in Brazil is about 23 per 100,000 people. Which I guess means around 99.9% of your population are not considering murdering anyone. In general, most people are not actually violent or aggressive, which makes it unlikely that evil thoughts would be able to overwhelm the good ones to produce these evil gods.
@@xTheZapper First of: evil is not only manifested through violent acts between people. Dishonesty and general corruption can be seen in its effects through indirect and "non-concrete" consequences. THAT is the case of Brazil, for instance.
And in the case of WH40K, planets like Terra itself, Necromunda, Birmingham, Cretacea, Baal, the ones in the Ghoul Stars and those ruled in the shadows by the Howling Griffons, for instance, are riddled with violence, opression and misery among the very people. Yes, there are "OK" planets (nothing compared with T'au planets and Aeldari's Craftworlds) and Pleasure Planets, but these are the minority. Oh, and the Ecclesiarchy and the Inquisition have a tight grip with an iron hand (no pun intended) to watch over and hunt other gods that are not Big E. The only good God in WH40k is Isha and Nurgle kidnapped her thousands and thousands of years ago. So no, there are no good Gods - and the Emperor is not a full god yet.
@@xTheZapper We have, more or less, a "stable" (if that deserves to be called "stable") death index of 45.000 per year due violent reasons here in Brazil - along with other forms of death that are high. And as I said previously, other forms of evil plague our country due the general corruption of the people here. If that was not the case, we would have been already a first class country CENTURIES ago.
You would need to know Portuguese in order to see better the studies HERE in Brazil about how violent and corrupt people here is. We are NOT a nice country with nice people and if another brazilian tell you it is, trust me, he wants to mislead you at minimum.
A major mini series of the chaos gods would slap hard ! ❤
Honestly, I really hope Vashtoor ascends to become a proper chaos god soon.
It would be great to have a logical, polite god who does not backstab everyone or smells like crap.
Psyker disciplines explained please. From all the factions
Bro really had me checking my phone to see if my internet was fucking up.
🤔I could've sworn you created a video about this topic before Major.
“Nor are they these” x6 times
… you don’t fool me, You’re trying to summon chaos daemon.
Majorkill: No cursing in the first minute of the video for monetization purposes.
Also Majorkill: "Fuck!" in the first minute. lol
The chaos gods are literally just Egregore, which is a concept that's been around for a really long time.
Dude a custom Royal Rumble in a wrestling game, with the Chaos gods starting, would be sick
I’ve never been so fuckin hype to see a mistake take in a video. Majors had fun making this one
Majorkill bombing his video's monetization for the bit, love it
"You want to have as much fun as possible without nuking your health."
You dont know me.
That moment you know when you f*cked up; is when you have a millisecond existential thought and look down at your body , and for that slight moment you feel everything all at once e with know shock or buffer and get punished by having to live it out in super slow space and nurgle, or nix(sp) making sure you feel every single possible reality feeling of you bursting worse than tetsso basically goin thru the same thing mentally. The agony I can imagine, wouldn’t be tamed by ANYTHING except maybe your (hopefully at this point) genuine prayers and apologies to paw paw Nurgle
You speak of chaos but don't mention Malice/Malal?
Majorshill
Because GW doesn't care. Remember 2719 and the fake emperor. What's up with that
That’s hilarious. So basically the Chais Gods are playing the table top version while everybody else is on the board.
You've done this before SURELY
love all these videos got me into warhammer
I think MK has been joking about "blood orgies" for so long he actually believes that is the lore now
Souls crushed together
Sounds like someone sitting on the golden throne
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Huge fucking RESPECT for leaving those takes in❤
What's that one time that Khorne did a baseball swing on a planet and vanished Angron in the process?
0:17 - 0:26
Tzeentch is having fun with this guy
Good episode. Lots of straight talk and no custodian love rambling.
0:24
" *F O H C K* "
No lie I had to do a quadruple take with the failed outtakes lol great one
"better late than never" dude Benjamin Button the shit out of the algorithm, he started by the scraps at the bottom of the warhammer lore barrel, and is just now coming to the basics of what is 40k
Now you've finished all the heresy novels, can you please do a tier list on the performance of each of the Primarchs during the heresy?
Been saying this for years, to the point I can't remember if I learned it from Majorkill or not. But,
"The Chaos Gods are nothing but accidents the Warp happened to vomit out when all the true powers of the galaxy were looking the other way."
Their affecting things *before* the War in Heaven doesn't change this. Time is mutable in the Warp after all.
And by their own rules, peace in the galaxy WOULD unmake them. Every terrible decision from every character makes sense when you realize these four would be doing EVERYTHING they could at all times to prevent that.
Chaos is simultaneously the most powerful, and weakest possible, faction in the setting. I wish more lore would explore that.
40k, where literal Hell is just Tuesday and needs to take a number when wanting to wipe out all of Humanity.
I like to compare slaanesh to the cenobites from hellraiser. They are both about pleasure, pain, sensation, and shattering the concept of limits.
I love chaos gods videos. Super cool
Knorne: Corn enjoyer
Nurgle: Turd burglar enthusiast
Tzeentch: Bird lover
Slaanesh: The second child you be less strict to.
Malice: future serial killer and dolls kill lover
Vasnore: hot topic
The Dark King: Blue Balls
8:27 Viruses doesn't count as a lifeform but as "organisms at the edge of life".
The truth is that we don't even know what life is, there are so many definitions like tzeentch plans
Its funny how that kinda fits with Nurgles whole vibe though. Not alive, not dead, something inbetween
This is a debated topic which essentially boils down to the world not caring about how we try and classify it.
@@Hurricayne92 Most biologist agree that they doesn't count as a lifeform.
Majokill! Make a Gabriel Angelos model! One i can proxy Guilliman with! And my life, is yours!
Calm down Kratos
That bad takes section made me laugh. Like actually laugh, not blow air through my nose.
Really like the Chaos Gods as definitions of gods. They feel far more abstract and wide scopped then Mytholgoy gods that is close to been a powerful super human then a god.
Entertaining video. Danny Fortuna in shambles.