What Do The Chaos Gods Actually Look Like? | Warhammer 40k Lore
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The Ruinous powers have had one of the largest impacts on the setting of 40k... but what do they actually look like?
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TLDR Slaanesh is the galaxies greatest Catfish and Nurgle looks exactly how you'd imagine
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is the herpes thing slaanesh or nurgle
@Majorkill Have you taken a look at the Realms of Chaos and the Lost and the Damned Artwork too? That stuff is still canon as well.
Hey Majorkill. Would you please make some lore vidoes on the Imperial Truth, The Imperial Creed, The Ecclesiarchy, and the High Lords of Terra? I will be very happy if you do so.
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Day 14 aski g for Video about non chaos aligned warp entities and magic would be veryyyy cool
We get an actual description of Nurgle's appearance in the Age of Sigmar novel, Hallowed Knights Plague Garden: "Through the ragged shroud of smoke, Gardus saw what lay below the Inevitable Citadel, at the heart of Nurgle’s garden. Almost immediately, he closed his eyes and turned away, unable to bear it. It was impossible to describe. Impossible to comprehend. To his eyes, it was a wallowing swamp of black stars and dying worlds, of rotting galaxies alive with immense, writhing shapes as large as nebulas. Cosmic maggots, gnawing at the roots of infinity. Galactic plagues, eating away at the very flesh of existence, reducing all that was to leprous ruin in their unending hunger. It was a dark mirror of Azyr, corrupted, reduced, strangled. All glory vanished, all hope quashed. A thunder of screams echoed upwards, driving him back. A million million voices, raised up in anguish and despair. Forever crying out for that which would never come. Down below, something began to crawl out of the black heart of that cancerous infinity. It was no shape, and all shapes. Fat and thin, a plume of smoke, a puddle of oil, spreading ever upwards. There were eyes in the smoke, as round as cold, dead suns, and teeth that stretched in a grin as wide as the horizon. Fingers like comets clutched at the void, as the Lord of All Things stirred from his manse, and began the long, arduous climb to his garden. Moons crumbled beneath that impossible bulk, and stars were snuffed out."
The old Lovecraftian way to describe that which is indescribable, i like it
Everything in that quotes was terrifying except for Nurgle himseft
@@KaiserAfini because he didn't really choose to serve nurgle
He chose to save himself and his legion from plague
That reads like discount Lovecraft.
@@KaiserAfini He did not make that choice, Typhus basically forced his hand to serve nurgle or have his legion suffer for all eternity at the hands of nurgle's diseases
Often Slaaneshi daemons are described as having hideous and repulsive true forms but put on a 'facade'. So, it makes sense Slaanesh himself / herself would have a true from that is equally disgusting
I think Slaanesh should like like if you had a fap to trap porn, came and then instantly felt regret and disgust as the masculine angles and body type becomes revealed and you realized you just beat your meat to a mentally ill dude with boobs. Or you know beer goggles. I think what Slaanesh should represent in its form is how the lust of the perceiver gets in the way of accurately judging reality and suffering all the more for it in an ironic twist of fate. I think psychologically Slaanesh should torment its followers with a concept of im in too deep now in corruption while feeling regret and disgust for what they have done while not really being able to help themselves. Kind of like nurgle except with sex, drugs. and rock and roll.
Makes sense, true pleasure often lies in the grotesque
The gods don't necessarily have genders or sex, they are sentient forms of energy.
Makes sense, because… Have you seen art of more bizarre fetishes? It is pure nightmare fuel.
@@9bang88 they are above mortal concepts such as gender the only one with a sex is slanesh to violate whoever
Non chaos aligned warp entities and magic would be a cool video ngl.
Yes yes 100% Yes
Yes, please remind the 40K community that the warp and chaos are not synonymous.
How many times you have said this thing by this point.
@@AbdulKarim-ks2uf not enough, bro
@@AbdulKarim-ks2uf yeah, not enough for Majorkill to make a video about them
Khorne having a very straight foward form makes sense, it goes with his personality, what You see is what You get with him.
And what you get is an axe to the face.
@@HeatRaver a Chain axe to the face*
@@ivanrasic-eq6vv flaming chain axe to the face*
@@lord-szczygiel Gigantic flaming chain axe to the face*
@@gamingwolf6735 Blood screaming gigantic flaming chain axe to the face*
Tzeentch is referenced as the Raven God. So it's possible his true form is in fact avian. But at the same time he's always changing.
Corvus: "I've already sent a cease letter, but I've been told that the person responsible for delivering the letter is currently stuck in some maze or some shit"
I believe that he's called the Raven God because Ravens are generally symbolic of scheming, change, grief, etc. Ravens are also fairly intelligent creatures, comparable to dolphins and chimpanzees.
@@basedimperialism why not both?
So he’s Odin
Big bird
A good source of info on what they look like are the very old chaos lorebooks "Slaves to darkness" and "The Lost and the Damned", seriously worth tracking down if you can find a copy of either.
Tzeench was said to have his head sunken into his shoulders, with multiple faces appearing and vanishing all over his body, each one talking over the other, whispering secrets.
And I think they said Khorne had the face of a great bestial hound?
That's probably where I read it then 😁
That would be correct about Khorne, and Tzeentch... Also Zeen has been described as a vast multi-colored cloud of magic energy.
I have both books and most of what is discussed here is not correct but is correct in different ways. Tzneench looks different every time you see it. Slaneesh is just boobs everywhere. Papa Nurgle (the god of despair) is large and massive. Khorne is the ultimate beserker warrior and sits on a throne of skulls, He kills Greater deamons that sit in his presence.
Sadly he pronounces Tzneech wrong, it's in the books.
@@gavin1506 you... DO know he deliberately says it wrong for the lulz, right?
I sort of figured the Chaos Gods "looked" like the Endless, where their appearance depends entirely on who is looking at them. So everyone sees something different.
Now that is a great example! You are referring to the Endless movie right?
I agree with you. Majorkill starts the video by arguing against the idea that the Chaos gods have no physical form, but it just makes no sense to me that they are literally a big angry demon dude or rotting fat guy. The Warp is in no way like normal 3 dimensional space, so why would the gods have 3 dimensional forms? In the old Warhammer rule book from the 80s (yes, I'm that old) I seem to remember it explaining that daemons don't actually look how they are in the game, their appearance is largely determined by the expectations of the viewer. Humans are just incapable of grasping what these things "look" like, because our biology and minds are a product of our 3 dimensional universe. Stories about Khaine fighting Slaanesh or Skarbrand striking Khorne are I assume, always metaphorical, because that's the only way humans can comprehend an approximation of those events.
technically, yes! The chaos Gods doesn't have a tangible body inside their domain, which is opposite of realspace and made up of thought and emotion. They still have some characteristics that when even people who dont know about them look at them, they will still understand their concept and being
Knorne - Violence, destruction and honnor: typical appear as obsidian knight that have death gaze, in fire/blood/skull as symbol of death
Slaneesh - Emotion, debauchery, peace: wifu appearance and somewhat sexualize. This is the god that have most forms because he cover the largest range of mortal concept.
Teeznet - Intelligent, change and hope: the most fuk up, undefinable due to his nature to alway change, so he will alway be unregconizeable for the viewer
Nurgle - Nature, disease, stagnation and kindness: Big fat friendly nature cover dude that seem harmless and l;ike a loving father
@@DustinBarlow8P Pretty sure he means The Sandman/Neil Gaiman, "Endless" (Death, Morpheus, etc).
This is my actual interpretation of how God works
I love how you interchange it, him and her with Slaanesh. Reminds me of the days of tts.
TTS?
@@darrenegan3891 Bruva Alfabusa's If the Emperor has a text to speech device. Look it up, I swear it's worth your time.
@@somerandomdude3729 2nd time I’ve heard of this in 24 hours, I must have a look 😅 thank you
@@darrenegan3891 it’s the greatest piece of fanart dedicated to Warhammer 40K ever. Seriously it’s that good
@@EnglishUbermenche Warhammer doesn't deserve it, pure gold shouldn't be wielded by slimes.
Okay, a Changeling putting a Nurgling on Khorne's Skull Throne for a supernatural whoopee-cushion prank is absolutely amazing.
Only VERY (I can't stress this enough) few humans have seen Slaanesh directly, those that passed through the many circles of her realm and then got turned into stone by him simply smiling at them. However, there is one exception, the Silver Knight who she favored instead for some reason.
Who is this guy ?
She favoured him because he got so far and tried so hard. It made him stand out and made his eventual corruption all the sweeter. Remember, out of all the chaos gods, Slaanesh is the one who treasures her mortal servants the most.
@@secretlythreeducksinamansu3546 but in the end, it doesn't even matter.
@@der110 I haven't read the actual thing itself, but if i remember right it was some gray knight
@@Robotron56 I just describes a 'silver knight' and people filled in the rest of the blanks, but it probably wasn't a grey knight. His gear didn't match. I'd prefer it if it was thought, takes away some of the Mary Sueness of them to show that one can be corrupted in the most extreme circumstances.
I remember in one of the Fabius Bile novels he once looked at the sky and there was a vast face in the sky, painted with stars and constellations, this was implied to be Slaanesh's face watching down on him.
He even denied their existence while his body was in immense pain just by looking at them
… he mentioned that
Lol I don't have acne
I find it so funny and more than a little heavy with schadenfreude that Fabius Bile insisted on his disbelief of Slaanesh...
Only to pledge himself to the Chaos Gods at the end of the book.
Four Chaos Gods - the manifestations of the sins of the War In Heaven that turned the Realm of Souls into the Warp and made the Horus Heresy barely a blip on the radar.
Although it was only three after the War in Heaven. Slaanesh took a bit longer to take form. But given how time works (or rather doesn't work) in the Warp, the above could be true as well in a sense.
@@kaltaron1284 Slaanesh made a tear in the galaxy and killed almost all of the strongest race in the galaxy. Khorne, Nurgle, and Tzeentch were waiting for her so Khaine, Isha, and Cenagorath wouldn’t kill them
@@steffanyschwartz7801 Yep, waiting a couple million years seems to have paid off.
I always think that it made sense for the other chaos gods (khorne, nurgle, tzeentch) to be spawned during war of heaven than being borned out of human vices on earth. The war on heaven is on a galactic scale while old earth is just in one planet.
@@yeahthatstheguy44 spawned after it. Don’t know necessarily how Nurgle was spawned since I don’t think C’Tan, Old Ones, Necrons, Kroks, or Super Eldar can get sick. Maybe plagues happened to other species, Tzeentch and obviously Khorne make sense though
SCARBRAND CAN DAMAGE THE CONCEPT BECAUSE SCARBRAND HAS PHD IN PSYCHOLOGY.
SCARBRAND HATES REPLICATION! THEREFORE SCARBRAND HATES THE SOCIAL SCIENCES SLIGHTLY LESS!
Yes
With a Minor in PAIN!!!
Khorne - the Paraplegic Sociopath
Nurgle - the Supernatural Garbage
Tzeentch - the Indecisive Mollusk
Slaanesh - the one that never went to Rehab
You forgot Malal...
We don't talk about him,he does not exist!
How is literal garbage a better father than big E
@@FullBringer1 "The greatest trick that Malal ever did was convincing the galaxy he never existed"
@@rythofthefourthhouse7104 so did GW
Slaanesh probably duelled Khaine with his skyscraper long throbbing gobbling glizzler
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I read a reddit post that said that every villain team/group had the same four individuals:
- The Dumb Muscle
- The Intelligent Mastermind
- The Creature
- The Fatally Sexy
I think the Chaos Gods are victims to this.
9:51 I feel hurt :(
The many forms of the chaos gods (In age of sigamar gods can have sorta multiple different form they can change into depending on worship)
Khorne ("Kharneth" "Akhar" "Kjorn" "Khorgar," the "Axefather," the "Bloodfather," the "Wolf-Father,")
-The Blood God: A Warrior so vast that he blots out the stars, with the snarling visage of a monstrous war-hound. His massive form is heavy with corded muscle clad in interlocking plates of baroque brass armour, and his eyes are fiery orbs filled with boundless hatred. (This was the first image of khorne in warhammer from the Lost and dammed book)
-The Bloodwolf: as giant flayed hound with all the
-The lord of battle: Giagantic brass armor bloodthister sitting in the skull throne with his elite guard of bloodthirster
-The Brass Bull: worship by the skullfrey beastmen gigantic flaming armor brass bull
Nurgle ("Plague Lord," "Grandfather Nurgle," the "Lord of Pestilence," the "Fly Lord," the "Urfather," and as "Neiglen")
-The Plague Father: the gigantic great great unclean one abomination crowed by pair of antlers that burn through reality when he moves them, maggots bursting and burrowing into his flesh as he feeding off the depaire of reality. The lost and the dammed first image of the god
-The King of all flies: A miamma of swarm of flies that seemingly buzzing, repopulating and dying a symbol of his power over the cycle of life & death
-Mother Mort: Worship by the inhabitants of Ghyran the realm of life as a fuck up version of Isha while he was starting his invasion into the realm
-The crow father: Giagantic black crow worship by the norscans picking at the corpse of battle
Slaanesh ("Prince of Pleasure," the "Lord of Excess," the "God of Obsession," the "Master of Excess in All Things," the "Perfect Prince" and even the "Prince of Chaos,")
-The Dark prince: A hermaphrodite or asexual humanoid (one half male the other female) clean limbed and fresh with the vigour of youth with horns ssurting form her beautiful mane. This from the image from The slave to darkness
-She who thirst: 40k Eldar describing her a gaping storm of pride and hedonism that vaguely take the form of a greater demon or and eldar sucking all the souls fo the aeldari who died without a spirit stone
-The Decadent fiend: a giant Baphomet god that rapes and breed the world worship by the skalefrey beastmen
-The Serpent: Norscan worship her a gigantic snake (AOS some worship her as a gigantic golden two headed snake)
-Slaa-Nulhthe: also know as she who devoure as a vortex of maws and tounges
Tzeentch (the Changer of Ways, the Lord of Change, the Architect of Fate, Tchar, The great conspirator, the great schemer)
-Lord of change: A giant with his skin crawls with constantly changing faces that leer and mock any who dare to gaze upon two tendrales horns breathing a stream of multicolor flames . His first image from the lost and dammed book
-Great Egale: A gigantic biblical accurate angel bird mosnter with a crystal eye center to his bird skull
-The Beast of many forms: Woship by the twistfrey beastmen as ever shifting monster that devouring magic flesh and fate only to regugitate them into more beastmen
-King of raven: Norcan worship a raven who would sometimes whister secret to those who wish to learn
-Chi'an Chi: Cathay version of tzeentch
-Lord of shifting breeze: a multi-coloured smoke, crackling energy of an unknown type that burns or mutates the objects it touches, faces in mist, a writhing mass of fleshy protoplasm
0:40 I think even the Watchers would avoid the Warhammer 40k universe and make sure that the Four Parasites don't notice them at all like Ultron-Vision did when Uatu made that mistake.
Not even master order / lord chaos want to go and hes essentially the same thing but chill
Watchers are just too pacifists except for like 1 or 2.
Scary part is according to the templin institute video about event horizon. They may already know about the ominverse. (Currently doing a fanfic series, that explores that idea.)
I think even Voldemort, literal Satan, Darkseid, the DC dark multiverse, Klarion from DC, etc. wouldn’t want anything to do with Chaos or it’s Gods.
In my mind, khorne was always a muscular daemonic angel of combat, but ever since he obtained his space marine legions, his form added heavy obsidian armor due to the powerful minds of the space marines interpreting him as such.
Id imagine Tzeentch would look very similar to Azathoth or Yog Sothoth from the Lovecraft mythos
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DO NOT COMPARE FILTH TO THE ALMOGHTY AZATHOTH OR OUR LORD NYARLEPOTETH
@@henrybarnacle9549 Spelling sir, it matters when worshiping eldrich gods.
@@tbone11x dude you killed the heretical cultist with these words.
Azothoth would stomp the entirety of 40k, including the universe sized fleet of Nids, all the Chaos God's, Original Necrons, The Old Ones, Enslavers and the whole, pre-slannesh Eldar combines.
After all, dreams can't hurt you. And when you awake, the dream vanishes like dust in the wind.
Deamon Sultan Azothoth, the most powerful being in all of fiction.
Slaanesh: how many holes/plugs.
Khorne: how many spikes/skulls.
Tzeentch: how many tentacles/eyes.
Nurgle: how many boils/pustules.
Yes.
Slaanesh’s gifts are only temporary, herpes is Eternal. 0:10
This reminds me of khajit lore in Elder Scrolls world where each god has his khajit form because of their religion (everything is a félin) it made me laugh when Sheogorath took his khajit form when je tried to drive mad an entire temple
Tzeentch was actually described very rough in one of the Ahriman books. It Was said that he looks like giant pillar of eyes and mouths that are constantly twiching and wobbeling around
Khorne: I wonder if beneath all that darkness there isn't some bull features on him. bloodthirsters and Valkia have hooves so I would assume they do.
Nurgle: I am not sure but I think that PNG in the background is taken from an older artwork of him. Could just be really similar.
Slaanesh: I swear I read somewhere that slaanesh likes to change his form to whatever she pleases at the moment just so that he can be "perfect". I like the drawing of her true form though, It looks sickly and degenerate, creepy, like a crack addict and/or sex pest. Very fitting considering what kinda god he is.
Tzeentch: I wish I could give you my opinion on tzeentch but I cant fucking comprehend it.
Bro I am tired of seeing hooves on everything Khorne Daemon, like come on, wouldn't CLAWS be better than hooves??
I love the constantly switching pronouns on Slaanesh, it's hilarious lmao. Might as well inject some random neopronouns and theys as well
@@zachrabaznaz7687Like any LGBT member, it can simply be referred to as "it"
Can't remember where it was said, but Khorne was once described as having the head of a hound. Which I go with because, y'know, canines are awesome. He's also been referred to as the Great Hound in the past I think? Both of these may well have been in random bits of colour text, but were in official publications, so are good enough for me.
The norsca see the gods as animals. The hound is their name for khorne
To be fair I am sure if Tzeentch could break the fourth wall and knew about the misconceptions of his appearance he would change his appearance to the most common depiction to screw with loremasters
Not sure if this has already been done but maybe a video on what the average imperial citizen knows about the galaxy ie. The comatose emperor, chaos, Xenos, etc.
The Inquisition and the Grey Knights make sure no citizen remembers anything about Chaos.
Great idea 💡
@@mrrodriguezHLP that was before the big rift
@@mrrodriguezHLP yea and no we know some areas of the imperium know of demons
Makes sense nurgle would just make more demons he is glued to his cooking pot
Tzeantch's description makes me wonder how the other chaos gods were able to fight and shatter him.
I don't think they have a physical form. I think it was like three blobs of energy attacking a fourth, causing it to fall apart. Maby Tzeentch even shattered him self to escape.
I like that time Fabius was having his I sides turned to jello but refused to acknowledge the horny god
Speaking of instantly becoming a Slaanesh-simp upon seeing their true form, have you covered the Silver Knight yet? An interesting story, with some... implications for a certain plot armor-bearing Grey Knight.
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CA depicted Tzeentch like Yog-Sothoth, the god of time and sorcery from the Lovecraftian mythos. Very good choice.
I appreciate Slaanesh being referred to it, him, and her in the vid. Even for demon's, it's especially useful to for it in particularl.
Slaanesh appears to the onlooker as whatever they find most appealing, so yeah.
Hey they might be a rapist murder torture demon but you gotta respect the pronouns
I suggest Majorkill to include Nurgle into sexy hentai calendar. Just for lol and see how it turns out.
There's a description of the gods's appearance in codex chaos daemons. Khorne is a dog faced warrior, Slaanesh is dependent on the beholder but seems so innocent that they immediately lose their soul. Nurgle is essentially a giant Great unclean one and Tzeentch is a massive collection of mouths that speak in so many different inflections it quickly drives people insane.
With tzeentch being constantly changing, I imagine a blob like ditto that is changing like the T1000 when he is in the molten metal at the end of Judgement day.
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i mean if skarbrand hit himself, hes technically also hitting khorne since every demon is a piece of their god
I could imagine they are kind of liquid in their form when in the realms of chaos constantly changing but keeping to their theme. But then they solidify while in the physical realm
I think the only reason why Tzeench has no exact "true" form is because he is shattered across the stars, not just because he is the lord of change, though that is definitely probably part of that.
I'm reading all of the Ahriman books right now, I cannot wait till I get to the meeting with the Lords of change and Tzeentch, I'm very excited to be reading that part very soon.
For anyone who is familiar with the work of HP Lovecraft I always think of Tzeentch looking like Yog-Sothoth
They are kicking back enjoying the show
Literally sitting in my car waiting on GW to open and take my money. Thanks for the perfect timing.
Just imagine seeing Khorne, the sheer intensity of it. Fire and brass horns, the mad chorus of war.
We can guess their physical appearance by looking at their daemons.
Yeah, I always got Tzeentch vibes from interactions with Hermeus Mora, of Elder Scrolls fame, and could easily imagine the Changer of Ways just appearing as a mass of eyes, tentacles, and efflivia. As for the bird reference, I always imagined it started off as an Odin homage, since ravens are special to him, and symbols of wisdom, to some cultures. Then, because the Chaos God's are mostly evil, and often seek to cause destruction simply for the lols, it got switched over to the vulture/buzzard, because they scavenge, and pick out premium morsels, from the refuse left in the wake of inexorable time, and violence. If you ever play Legend of Zelda: Windwaker, they also follow a similar meme, since thar game's rendition of Wizzrobes take on a particularly vulture-like avian form, as the telrport around the room, hurling magic at our Hero. No other LoZ game does that; they usually just look "wizardy", but once they did.
Khorne looking like a big, armored Hulk never really broke my immersion; it was the color of that armor that kind of did. If you look at his servants, they seem to often have a bronze/brass theme to them, and so it always surprises me that Khorne doesn't look more like a huge, monstrous, winged Talus, from Greek mythology. Obsidian armor is awesome, and if Khorne can make burs shatter off, and perforated hus foes, foe the audacity of striking him, all the better, but I thought part of why Abaddon chose black as his faction's color was because none of the God's had it, and so he could claim his stance between, but not beneath any of them.
As fir Slaanesh, yeah, I'll always prefer murder-demon-waifu Slaanesh, but I accept that that's just my preference, and other people will have other ideas about "beauty", "seductive", or "excess", that would greatly alter hiw Slaanesh might appear. I like to think that, at least in some ways, they have a true form, butblittle say in how it appears; the souls that empower them are more deciding of this. It's sort of like Ares, in Wonder Woman. The God of War maybe should look like a beefcake Roman soldier, but in the time kf the World Wars, war was different. He is a general, and generals then looked like older men in suits, sending off faceless troops to for for their goals. As the Avatar of War, i believe how war had evolved caused that entity to change with it. Again, that's me, and maybe I am just trying to justify their choice in a way I like, but it works fir me, and the same could be true of our Chaos God's. Maybe how the universe perceives them becomes an aspect of their true form, even if they still have to layer illusion over their Lovecraftian reality to keep lesser souls from just losing it. Even the Emperor does something similar; we know that the glorious golden man of legend was, at least in part , a mental disguise, and at least some of his Sisters of Silence could see "just a regular man", instead of what we see in art. I imagine that that avatar of the Emperor appeared Primarch-size, but the skeleton on the Golden Throne doesn't seem nearly so massive.
The Emperor being "Just a regular man" is mostly just a metaphor for "I am not a God". He is actually clad in shining golden armor yes, but he can make his appearance change to his will.
My favorite description of the chaos gods comes from, as you mentioned, Fabius Bile interacting with Slaanesh, more or less as close to its true form as one can. Given that he is an atheist and thinks the chaos gods are purely physical phenomena no more intelligent or conscious than gravity, it makes for a fun interaction. In third person but from Fabius’ perspective, Slaanesh is described as an infinite, cosmic “gaze” that has no real point of reference in reality. He looks up at the sky to see it, but it’s not really the sky, or space, because both have comprehensible forms. His highly genetically and technologically enhanced body starts going through total organ failure while he keeps saying you’re not real, like a child talking about the monster in their closet.
I'd picture Tzeentch as a red giant sized shoggoth.
None of them can ever compare to the beauty of the long lucius haired GOD EMPEROR OF MANKIND🥵🥵
A curious question out of idle interest. What if the Imperium of Man 'won', what then? Robert Goilyman was prepping his astartes for it, but what if they exterminated all orks and made peace with eldar/tau or wiped them out, too, what if there's no longer any outside conflict. What if Chaos got pushed out of the picture. What would that war driven society look like without war, or at least universal war, since I imagine some planets will inevitably get uppity for independence
Simple, the truth about the missing 2 primarchs would come out, The Imperium would break apart into at least tens of thousands of pieces, just like in the vision Rogal Dorn saw, The Void Dragon returns, and The Necrons would shatter into thousands of political factions due to Malal.
Oh, and hundreds of quadrillions of people would die as a result of that.
The answer is as simple as human nature. Great unity is always followed by great division. Mankind will never want for enemies as long as they have each other to kick around.
Once the Emperor finished the Webway project (assuming Magnus didn't bonk it, or if Empy was able to fix it) then Mankind would have unprecedented prosperity due to instant supply lines. There'd likely be a period of shoring up infrastructure and changing things from a war economy to a more egalitarian (relatively speaking, Big E would still have things under his complete control but ordinary citizens would probably have a LOT more rights than they did even during 30k) society. Education would be a big deal, as the Emperor would strongly desire a reasoned populace both to further starve Chaos as well establish a Galaxy-wide cultural normalcy (basically everyone standardized ethics/morality and education levels).
Once he felt comfortable enough he'd probably reign in Mars either diplomatically or via overwhelming force. He'd then organize expeditions into the center of Mars where all the rampant A.I.'s are and try to recover a fully intact STC. Afterwards mankind would likely start looking like it did in the Dark Age of Technology, and Empy would probably wipe out ALL xenos life except for MAYYYYBE certain craftworlds (Iyanden being the strongest contender for being spared since it doesn't fuck with the Imperium and is super anti-chaos) since the Craftworlds have skills Empy might find useful...but he also might kill them off period. Uncertain how he'd deal with the Harlequins and Cegorach/Black Library, but it might be easier on his part to just accept/partner with them and have them keep the Webway maintained while he fucks Chaos. Necrons would likely be purged piece by piece before they could wake up and become a threat. Astartes would inevitably be phased out/replaced with Primaris and utilized in the constant mini-crusades and purges...I don't THINK they'd get the Thunder Warrior treatment just cuz they're very stable in comparison whereas the Thunder Warriors were psychologically and physiologically unstable which was the whole point of getting rid of them.
Inevitably the Emperor's long term plan was to guide humanity over time to become a fully psychic race...particularly a race of perpetuals like himself. Inevitably this means humanity would be able to dominate the Galaxy and the Warp. After this he'd probably notice the Tyranids in the other Galaxy and purge them with little to no effort given how advanced and powerful humanity would be at this point (as well as the fact that they could use their ENTIRE force against ONE FOE a luxury the current Imperium does not have in the slightest).
After that not sure...we're headed into crazy advanced hard sci fi territory beyond that point and humanity might as well turn into literal gods that begin merging the Warp and Realspace and changing reality at a fundamental level on a whim.
@@mrrodriguezHLP it would be mankind who’ll find the truth bout the 2 missing primarchs and the imperium would be “completely destroyed” (broke apart into tens of thousands of pieces) as a result of the shock.
You know what would be super cool? Having the positive aspects of the Chaos Gods as characters occupying non fucked side of the warp and opposing their fucked aspects. I would LOVE to see an adorable Ent-Driad version of Papa Nurgle especially. It would be really interesting I think what do you guys think?
Another day another magorkill upload
Nurgle is a big, wholesome blob
Hey Majorkill. I've been watching for a while and I wanted to say how great I think your videos are. I had never really read anything about 40k until I started watching you and Weshammer. Keep up the great work!
There is an artwork from AOS that depicts Tzeentch
you should do a video about the Siege of Terra, covering all the best moments and show us your take on the event.
I'm pretty sure that all mentions of physical contact between warp entities are just metaphors to help us understand what's going on without having to dedicate page after page to what it truly means to interact with something in the Warp. It IS called "The Immaterium", after all.
Here's an interesting video idea MajorKill, Top 10 most horrific Warhammer surgical procedures performed. With people like Cawl and Fabius Bile having an absolute flesh field day, you could probably dig up some very choice nuggets of sick 40k lore.
okay so to counter the arguments at the start. anyone can DEFINITELY fight a concept, you can disrespect a concept, you can be crushed by a concept. especially when that concept is a manifestation of some twisted magical law of nature. they dont need to have bodies for those things. they could very well be interpreted as metaphoricals, like a lot of stories tend to use all over the world.
I would argue that the Warp operates more on "Dream-logic" so saying that the Chaos gods have a physical presence in it is not quite accurate.
I just think any warp gods are too "big" to be comprehended. It's like a 2-D person trying to imagine the shape of a 3-D object. They can perceive one side of them, but never the whole object simultaneously.
I just think lovecraftian gods, so incomprehensible but with a bit of control over how they're perceived by mortals. Maybe not khorne, who doesn't believe in trickery, nor nurgle, who doesn't seem to care how he's perceived.
Top marks MK. A really interesting an original video.
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Tzeentch looks like Tzeentch. Which is to say 'whatever the holy hell it feels like right this second...or last year, or next century'. Time means about as much as form does to the true Lord of Change.
Therapist: Fit Nurgle isn’t real, he can’t hurt you !
Tzeentch: I’m gonna do a pro gamer move !
My theory is nurgle is the first chaos god since he's the cycle of life and death. Then Tzeench was born from necron bio transfer. After that Khorne was born by the war in heaven. With the emperor born and secretly guiding the human i don't think any big chaos god was ever form from human as the emperor will deal with it before it went big.
Me: at least I have normal preferences and Slaanesh has to look normal for me
*sees Slaanesh as giant KoS*
Me: oh no
It makes no sense for one to be corrupted by looking at a kos. Slaanesh has to be female due to the seduction is too much for anyone to handle.
@@Super50ldier i learned that i am attracted to KoS
@@sorufa888 That's not her true form.
What is Kos?
i may or may not have bought the damn calendar
So Tzeentch looks more like one of HP Lovecraft’s shogoths, with how he’s described as just a massive pile of eyes, tentacles and mouths. I will say this, that’s really how I would see him, and with him being just a pile of meat, it’s be easy for him to change his forms
Magorkill out here changing the warhammer stereotype once again.
Good video bro
"Sleep is important"
My brain and crippling insomnia say otherwise
In the case of Khorne's official art from tw:wh he does seem to be wearing some kind of armor under his robes. Though I always imagined he would wear a brass color of armor since brass is consistent theme of his.
the older books also said that he had the face of a bestial hound under his helmet
Are we gonna ignore the spider face art from the old books? It was official
So Tzeentch is basically a 4th dimensional being. We can't comprehend it. But other gods can probably see him clearly
This
I always imagine khorne would look like cain from the Bible or vlad the impaler or genesis khan.
Well khorne would probably prefer to take the form of someone or something that’s physically strong .
Hey can u make a video about imperial ships? Great video btw
To me Tzeentch (as least from the description you gave) would be like a giant slime with eyes and mouths everywhere. Constantly writhing, twitching and changing form.
Fucking creased at that classic world of Warcraft comment. Love you man, I laugh and learn lore at the same time
Can you do a video on every faction vs the combined might of the imperium? How good or bad each faction would do.
7:05 Sure, that form is easier, but Slaanesh's true form... not impossible for meat beating.
I'm so glad with every other sentence for Slaanesh you use him or her, thats what I do, call em the first thing to mind, seems fitting
My MajorKill Plush came today!!!! And so did I... *Wink*
"ROOTIN TOOTIN COWBOY SHOOTIN" Someone has been listening to some Kornetry recently haven't they?
Its so cute when I see @Majorkill comments on other channels
Tzeentch's true form is that spider crab meme where the crab is saying "perhaps"
I mean, it makes sense that the Lord of Stagnation would be the one Chaos God to have a consistent form
Tzeentch looking like an HP Lovecraft fever dream sounds pretty on target
True forms of the chaos gods in a nutshel.
Khorne: Ultimate Satan
Nurgle: Yo mom
Slaanesh: Girls without make up
Tzeench: *FUCK YOU*
Can't wait for the signed calendar. Love the vids man, keep it up
Thanks for the Video MajorKool
Would love to see a top 10 deadliest nurgle plagues
Tzeentch: "Yeah. Keep guessing, puppets. lol"
I like how he didn't have a final "If he looks like that to you he looks like it" for Nurgle because Nurgle is 100% just a massive Great Unclean One
The description of Tzeentch reminds me of times I was tripping nutz on lsd or shrooms and looking at some of the really trippy black light reactive posters from Spencers. As I stared at em parts of it would grow and stream into other parts of itself while other parts are melting and shrinking and melding into itself. Definitely eye opening and brain expanding. Have you ever used any psychedelics Major? If not I would highly recommend trying some good shrooms. I'm Sure it woukd definitely give deeper perspective on not just everything around you and life itself, but also your work and the works of 40k in general. Before 40k I am a huge Tolkien fan, and when I first took LSD and re read LOTR over the next week, it was fucking amazing how much new and extra I picked up. And that was that. Been using a few times a year ever since....and more and more of the Matrix becomes visible every time
Bro he's Australian, obviously he tried psychedelics
In Warhammer online, the forces of chaos were fighting for Tzeentch (T-zeent-ch). They would reference the "Raven God" a lot and heavily imply Tzeentch having something to do with avian forms. The zealots/chosen would also have a lot of avian themed armour & clothing.
Dude I remember playing that game. I was confused when the playable chaos warriors work for Tzeentch instead of Khorne. Apparently, the chosen and the marauder got tricked into thinking that Tzeentch was the god of war called the "Raven Lord".
Well, describing the indescribable is rather tough.
You should do a video of how it is living in every faction