You need to adjust the sensitivity down to obtain a middle reading then move the detector, and readjust again when it reaches a max reading. Very handy to use to inspect for any damages before you start any work to cover your r,ss. The detector is also handy as not all ducts run in a straight line, think if you were inserting the camera from the rear of toilet within the home then the meterage is only an estimate.
You're inspecting a new unburied pipe. If you were inspecting a buried pipe and find a break or other problem, a good locator tells you exactly where to dig or break through concrete to make the repair. In the states, we also have septic tanks in many rural areas. Often the exact location of these tanks are lost over time. A good sonde and locator will help find the tanks. Generally plumbing DWV pipes are hidden from view and a locator allows you to find pipes through walls, concrete and soil.
You're meant to adjust the sensitivity on the reader to dial into the exact location. You made a heap of using that. Also the purpose of the reading meter is if you didn't know the location of the pipes you roded.
@@Mr_A_Buildersnot at all mate I love your videos. I was shouting at the phone watching you use the meter.😅 There should be an adjustable dial on the meter that you turn down the sensitivity the closer you get to the camera location to get the exact location. It's handy if you are on a property where you don't know the exact direction of pipes. Works kinda like a stud locator or laser level etc. The rods and attachments do look flimsy to be fair 👍
Ah fair play mate. Appreciate that. In all honesty, I could have spent a few hours perfecting it but I have zero confidence in it, it's so so cheap looking/feeling. I'd want a lot better for £800. The camera itself ain't bad though. Thank you for watching mate, appreciate it.
I'v gone with two of your recomendations, the foam gun and the rotory lazer and you ain't been wrong yet, the lazer level replaced my spectra one that went missing that cost over £700, and as you said the cheaper one dose exactly the same job, so keep up the honest product tests.
Seems a good deal. I use a similar one for pest control and ive got a 3k unit too. The cheap one is the first i get out to do a quick search of the system and its usually the only one i use. If theres a long distance or several bends to negotiate then the big unit is used. The locator does look cheap tbh but it needs to be tuned as you are using it to locate the sonde in the camera head.
it should have an attenuator, to adjust the sensitivity as you get closer to the camera, so the meter isn't at full scale all the time. it can also be used to find the camera if it gets stuck
Quite interesting, ive only ever used one a couple of times and hired one in on each occasion but was pricey and a fair drive to collect. The camera i hired was a bigger afair and quite advanced, farr more so than i required infact. Good review in fairness.
Thanks for showing us. I've always wanted to have one, but that locator thingy is a bit disturbingly cheap, Amazon listed the locator alone for 430/460 EUR !! Just imagine buying this and then receiving such a thing. (complety set is around 1100 inkl. VAT) Cheers
As ive said before im a drainage and water engineering and personally its perfect if you get a job come up every now and again when its needed but its not for professional use👍
Ah yes Kieran! Fair play to you! I knew someone who has commented before has said that but I couldn't remember who, sorry mate. Ok then, so professional use is out...what do you think of the price?
@@Mr_A_Builders could be good from a plumbers prospective because it look as tho it would fit down waste pipe and the odd soil stack🤷♂️price point isn't far off rely for what your getting it does what it says on the tin
Yea, an honest review. No fawning gratitude. The suppliers must recognise that their kit is totally out there to be ripped if it is not good. The camera locator is useful if you are not sure of the pipe routing. If all you have is the entry hole and you've gone,say 12 metres, on an uncharted run, you have no idea where the camera is - all you know is that you have payed out 12 metres of cable. If a dig is necessary in order to effect a repair, the locator should find the camera with some considerable degree of accuracy and prevent any worksite resembling a rabbit warren. It might well need calibrating/setting in order to function correctly. Other brands of locator certainly do work.
£800 = 16 site visits to inspect an issue and report for a customer.. Drains.. Cavity wall .. under floors etc.. .. @ £50 a job.. Paid for itself.... Re plastic grub screws.. just replace if you feel it necessary... Conveyance surveyors will love it.. to add to their toolkit when surveying properties... etc
Adam, interesting product review, my Son works for Dyno-Rod and I have seen the professional drain cameras they use - at the end of the day you get what you pay for - however this product seems to fall into no mans land between the diy market and the professional market and is not really an attractive proposition for either - as a few posters have already said - if you need to survey some pipework - it's easier to get someone in to do it - and you don't get covered in sh**t either!! look forward to Sunday's video, Regards Nick
Cost versus usage and how much time/money you’d save by having one. I think the locator needs a little more time to test as the sensitivity seems to be set too high. For fault finding its okay. Too much money for someone like me looking back at 38 years in my previous home the only issue I’ve had was locating the soak away. Nice vid and thanks for posting. Regards Mike 👍🏻
@@Mr_A_Builders not correct depends on if it is foul or surface water would be interested to know about the inspectors view on your foul water drainage looks like there's a lack of manholes or access points
@eddiereed5025 fair enough. Why you'd go through the hassle of turning a surface water rodding point into a manhole when you already have access via the rodding point is a strange one though. How many manholes and access points should we have on our job?
@@Mr_A_Builders I was talking about your foul water system a lot of branches on underground / above ground with no way of accessing if a blockage occurs
Refreshing to get an honest and unbiased review from TH-camrs receiving free stuff 😂. Fair play... as for the locating device, a ferret finders a lot more accurate. A bell around the camera might work 😂
The locator seemed to have a sensitivity switch, which you didn't use until you turned it off. The switch clicks when turned on then continues to turn, like a volume switch, but instead of sound it adjusts the sensitivity. As you turned it full on it was at maximum sensitivity and you probably could have detected the head from across the road. Try it again with the on switch just clicked on, and not turned full scale, then see how close you need to get to the camera.
Hard to tell the video quality without seeing raw footage rather than a video of a screen. However, on the price side, you can buy endoscopes for you phone for small DIY jobs for ££'s...
Didn't read the instructions of the inspection cam - didn't use the tool properly Got told by the company to read the instructions Didn't read the instructions of the detector - didn't use the tool properly Thought you'd learn after the first time lol
The locator is for when you don't have straight runs of pipe and can't see where the pipework is. As for price you can get a much better set up even if you only using randomly or for a few jobs a year for the same or a little more money. the memory card is far to small for even DIY usage, you would want a 512 card.
I think if it was in the pipe ou would have gotten a better,( more accurate), reading. It will tell you where the tree roots and/ blockage. I agree. With you about the price. Tooooo much. I could see other uses, checking drop cielings to see how much if any clearence and such.
@@Mr_A_Builders Yes. And they listed the 50m not much more. It typical of chineseium goods. It's a race to the bottom price wise as soon as sellers start seeing lower pricing on the web.
You need to adjust the sensitivity down to obtain a middle reading then move the detector, and readjust again when it reaches a max reading.
Very handy to use to inspect for any damages before you start any work to cover your r,ss. The detector is also handy as not all ducts run in a straight line, think if you were inserting the camera from the rear of toilet within the home then the meterage is only an estimate.
You're inspecting a new unburied pipe. If you were inspecting a buried pipe and find a break or other problem, a good locator tells you exactly where to dig or break through concrete to make the repair. In the states, we also have septic tanks in many rural areas. Often the exact location of these tanks are lost over time. A good sonde and locator will help find the tanks. Generally plumbing DWV pipes are hidden from view and a locator allows you to find pipes through walls, concrete and soil.
You're meant to adjust the sensitivity on the reader to dial into the exact location. You made a heap of using that. Also the purpose of the reading meter is if you didn't know the location of the pipes you roded.
Is this an argument in favour of that locater thingy?
Having the distance is great on a straight run, but if there's a bend or two that device would be handy
@@Mr_A_Buildersnot at all mate I love your videos. I was shouting at the phone watching you use the meter.😅 There should be an adjustable dial on the meter that you turn down the sensitivity the closer you get to the camera location to get the exact location. It's handy if you are on a property where you don't know the exact direction of pipes. Works kinda like a stud locator or laser level etc. The rods and attachments do look flimsy to be fair 👍
@Guvnor100 if it worked!!! No doubt there's devices/brands out there that would do exactly that, this ain't one of them!
Ah fair play mate. Appreciate that. In all honesty, I could have spent a few hours perfecting it but I have zero confidence in it, it's so so cheap looking/feeling. I'd want a lot better for £800. The camera itself ain't bad though. Thank you for watching mate, appreciate it.
I'v gone with two of your recomendations, the foam gun and the rotory lazer and you ain't been wrong yet, the lazer level replaced my spectra one that went missing that cost over £700, and as you said the cheaper one dose exactly the same job, so keep up the honest product tests.
Seems a good deal. I use a similar one for pest control and ive got a 3k unit too. The cheap one is the first i get out to do a quick search of the system and its usually the only one i use. If theres a long distance or several bends to negotiate then the big unit is used. The locator does look cheap tbh but it needs to be tuned as you are using it to locate the sonde in the camera head.
it should have an attenuator, to adjust the sensitivity as you get closer to the camera, so the meter isn't at full scale all the time. it can also be used to find the camera if it gets stuck
'It's a bag of toss' is my favourite comment of the year so far on TH-cam, you even made my Mrs laugh who was vaguely listening. Cheers! :D
Haha! You are now contractually obliged to shoe horn that phrase into a situation at least 3 times a week!
Challenge accepted!
@gadjules7334 ace!!! Let me know how you get on!
Quite interesting, ive only ever used one a couple of times and hired one in on each occasion but was pricey and a fair drive to collect.
The camera i hired was a bigger afair and quite advanced, farr more so than i required infact.
Good review in fairness.
High praise indeed, Paul! Thank you. Hope you're well, mate.
Brilliantly demonstrated pal 😀😀
Thank you, Simon. Hope you're well, mate.
i live next door to a gynocologist and hes got one of those locator units, i borrowed it once to get ny watch back.
Hahaha!!! Ace!
I want to be a part time gynaecologist. Part time, Just to keep my hand in.
Yeah. Where was the watch located...? Especially when you mentioned your neighbour the gyno.....!
Thanks for showing us.
I've always wanted to have one, but that locator thingy is a bit disturbingly cheap, Amazon listed the locator alone for 430/460 EUR !! Just imagine buying this and then receiving such a thing. (complety set is around 1100 inkl. VAT)
Cheers
Forget the review, WHY did you use 2 right angle bends and not go straight?
As ive said before im a drainage and water engineering and personally its perfect if you get a job come up every now and again when its needed but its not for professional use👍
Ah yes Kieran! Fair play to you! I knew someone who has commented before has said that but I couldn't remember who, sorry mate. Ok then, so professional use is out...what do you think of the price?
@@Mr_A_Builders could be good from a plumbers prospective because it look as tho it would fit down waste pipe and the odd soil stack🤷♂️price point isn't far off rely for what your getting it does what it says on the tin
@KEIRAN1996 nice one mate.
Yea, an honest review. No fawning gratitude. The suppliers must recognise that their kit is totally out there to be ripped if it is not good. The camera locator is useful if you are not sure of the pipe routing. If all you have is the entry hole and you've gone,say 12 metres, on an uncharted run, you have no idea where the camera is - all you know is that you have payed out 12 metres of cable. If a dig is necessary in order to effect a repair, the locator should find the camera with some considerable degree of accuracy and prevent any worksite resembling a rabbit warren. It might well need calibrating/setting in order to function correctly. Other brands of locator certainly do work.
£800 = 16 site visits to inspect an issue and report for a customer.. Drains.. Cavity wall .. under floors etc.. .. @ £50 a job.. Paid for itself.... Re plastic grub screws.. just replace if you feel it necessary... Conveyance surveyors will love it.. to add to their toolkit when surveying properties... etc
Adam, interesting product review, my Son works for Dyno-Rod and I have seen the professional drain cameras they use - at the end of the day you get what you pay for - however this product seems to fall into no mans land between the diy market and the professional market and is not really an attractive proposition for either - as a few posters have already said - if you need to survey some pipework - it's easier to get someone in to do it - and you don't get covered in sh**t either!! look forward to Sunday's video,
Regards Nick
Cost versus usage and how much time/money you’d save by having one. I think the locator needs a little more time to test as the sensitivity seems to be set too high. For fault finding its okay. Too much money for someone like me looking back at 38 years in my previous home the only issue I’ve had was locating the soak away. Nice vid and thanks for posting. Regards Mike 👍🏻
I’ve got a question . Can u turn a rodding point in to a manhole ……???????
No mate, unfortunately not. Manholes, I believe, should be where there's a change of direction.
@@Mr_A_Builders ok thx.
@@Mr_A_Builders not correct depends on if it is foul or surface water would be interested to know about the inspectors view on your foul water drainage looks like there's a lack of manholes or access points
@eddiereed5025 fair enough. Why you'd go through the hassle of turning a surface water rodding point into a manhole when you already have access via the rodding point is a strange one though. How many manholes and access points should we have on our job?
@@Mr_A_Builders I was talking about your foul water system a lot of branches on underground / above ground with no way of accessing if a blockage occurs
The idea of plastic grub screws is to protect the camera from sausage fingered users. They are supposed to break if over tightened.
The plastic grub screws are probably so if need be you can give it a hard yank and release the camera if ever it gets jammed in somewhere
Refreshing to get an honest and unbiased review from TH-camrs receiving free stuff 😂. Fair play... as for the locating device, a ferret finders a lot more accurate. A bell around the camera might work 😂
The locator seemed to have a sensitivity switch, which you didn't use until you turned it off. The switch clicks when turned on then continues to turn, like a volume switch, but instead of sound it adjusts the sensitivity. As you turned it full on it was at maximum sensitivity and you probably could have detected the head from across the road.
Try it again with the on switch just clicked on, and not turned full scale, then see how close you need to get to the camera.
Hard to tell the video quality without seeing raw footage rather than a video of a screen. However, on the price side, you can buy endoscopes for you phone for small DIY jobs for ££'s...
Didn't read the instructions of the inspection cam - didn't use the tool properly
Got told by the company to read the instructions
Didn't read the instructions of the detector - didn't use the tool properly
Thought you'd learn after the first time lol
Haha! In my defence...
1. The instructions are indecipherable
2. The detector is a complete piece of shit
3. I'm a bloke!
The locator is for when you don't have straight runs of pipe and can't see where the pipework is. As for price you can get a much better set up even if you only using randomly or for a few jobs a year for the same or a little more money. the memory card is far to small for even DIY usage, you would want a 512 card.
Haha loved the singing m8 nearly swallowed me cigarette.
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I think if it was in the pipe ou would have gotten a better,( more accurate), reading. It will tell you where the tree roots and/ blockage. I agree. With you about the price. Tooooo much. I could see other uses, checking drop cielings to see how much if any clearence and such.
Hi Adam. Just looked up Amazon and there are a few Sanyipace units with 20m starting at under £300. Bargain...........
Really??? They told me something very different!
@@Mr_A_Builders Yes. And they listed the 50m not much more. It typical of chineseium goods. It's a race to the bottom price wise as soon as sellers start seeing lower pricing on the web.
Fast forward to 24:05 if you want to miss the advert. 😂
Haha! You've spelt the word 'review' wrong!
@@Mr_A_Builders 💋Love your channel. Love your banter. Really enjoying this build 🫡
An expensive bit of kit just to check out your piles methinks but great for finding that missing bit of vacuum cleaner or the odd marble.......
How bizarre is life! You and gate city drainage putting out videos on the exact same product on the same day!!!! 😮
I was on the fence at £120. £800 is a pretty expensive thing that sits in the garage forever and doesn't move.
On a scale of 0 yo 10, if Milwaukee is a 10 Hilti must be around 30😉
At 800 notes, it has no market
Well...yeah...that's what I was thinking too!
The plpe locater sell it put the money in the kids xmass fund
The detector reminded me of the fake bomb detector scam with the infamous ADE 651
Ah yes! I remember that! Wasn't it actually a golf ball finder?
@@Mr_A_Builders That's the one, they sold thousands of them!
@@Mr_A_Builders That's the one, they sold thousands!
DIY I wouldn't spend that and like you I'd be more inclined to get someone in.
£800 ?#* I’ll take two 😂
It's a fair whack, isn't it!
Ali express tat to be honest. i would sooner crawl in the pipes than use something that bad .
If you said £199 then i can see the point, apart from that I think i'll pass 👍
They've definitely overvalued the product, so for that reason I won't be investing. "I'm Out".
You should really read the manual. before you make a review
get a pro to do it.
For that price no way. Looks cheap and made in china.