Errata (kind of): I forget sometimes that doffing/donning a shield technically requires an action (we treat it as a free action akin to drawing a weapon at our table) so, yes, for those mentioning it, it might be tricky to nova with a maul then pull out your shield for subsequent rounds if you're playing RAW.
If you're able to pull it off, hopefully the player of this build can convince their DM to allow the PC to find or craft an animated shield. It is an action, but it lasts 1 minute, and it could be something that's done before combat starts.
Haha, I came to the comments as soon as you said it to let you know and here you've already got it 🤣 "He throws down his shield... after using his other hand to undo the belts holding the massive disk of metal to his arm, and NEXT round, pulls out his weapon and leaves a crater where an enemy used to be." 😁 Yeah, Animated Shield is that guy's new BFF.
I forget this too sometimes. I hope one D&D gives you two object interactions. Open and close the door. Sheath one weapon and draw a different one. Draw both s Weapons at the beginning of combat, etc.
Hey Colby, I've been thinking about a Dhampir build (inspired by your tank Dhampir). What do you think of using the Ranger (hunter) tech with the diivine strike feature of the war cleric, then adding in battle master and hexblade's curse dip?
The trick to playing a support is to not play a lazy bottom that doesn't really help out making some energy, but instead everyone should bring what they like and preferably something that brings some energy to the table.
I’m actually playing a cleric in my current campaign. I’m going Death Cleric but this will probably help me still… also there’s the whole Death Cleric video but I’m trying to go melee
@Lloyd Lineske I'm pretty sure no one has actually worshipped the raven Queen, while people have and actually some still do worshipped or believe in Odin.
That sponser looks amazing! It's not every day we get new classes. I'm always excited to see more of them, especially with all of these character ideas are festering in my head
kibbles has a previous book called "compendium of craft and creation", it has a full class for "inventor" (legally distinct artificer) with I think 10 subclasses, a full psion, a bunch of subclasses in the themes of gadgedtry and psionics for exsisting classes, new spells, new monsters. And half of the book is a modular crafting system that tries to cover pretty much everything. The current kickstarter of legends and legacies does feature add-ons that allow you to get the prevous book.
I very much agree. I played one for Mine of Phandelver. It was fun, but it is needs to be improved for D&D One. I think adding Inspiring Leader as an eventual skill that and maybe a weaker than paladin divine smite could help.
its just not punchy enough. Warpriest and divine strike don't substitute for extra attack. But, because of warpriest, and divine favor as a domain spell, they are good dips for characters that have extra attack
I had a friend who would call war clerics "better paladins." I would generally push back that war clerics don't get smites, and she'd dismiss it, thinking smites weren't that big of a deal. Then she played a paladin for a while, and suddenly she stopped talking about how good war clerics are.
There are only 3 official deities that have both Nature and War as a domain (4 if you include Quajath from Exandria in the Wildemount book), two of which are from Eberron and the other an Elven deity. The two from Eberron's pantheon are Balinor and the Spirits of the Past, and the Elven god is Solonor Thelandria. So there's a small list to pull from for some character ideas...depending on the setting.
I think I would multiclass slightly differently. Keeping with your "mostly cleric" restriction, I would get to Cleric 5/Paladin 5 before moving into Fighter 2. Support abilities (your primary role) and extra attack would come a little bit faster, and then action surge pushes you ahead once the effectiveness of cleric abilities start tapering off. I haven't run the numbers, but my intuition says the power gain would be a little more steady rather than the massive power at level 6 and quick drop off seen in the video. But I bet the numbers wouldn't be that different, really. Too bad Guided Strike from conquest paladin doesn't somehow stack with Guided Strike from war cleric. That combo would be a perfect flavor win.
"... a hexblade warlock dip, that involves a patron that lives in a tree branch that you use as a club.. it could work.." what an idea. You have really good descriptions for stuff. Even the war priest description about how they are simply a support character but once in a while they drop their shield, pull out a giant hammer and make a crater. Immediately makes me visualize.
Blessed Sigmar, by the comet and the hammer I pledge to the coming battle. I vow not to waver and never retreat, to stand tall against the flames of perdition, to drive back the shadow of Chaos with your holy light. VICTORY FAVORS THE FAITHFUL, LET US TEACH THEM FEAR!
This is perfect advice for my fallen angel PC in a Hell-based campaign that’s about to kick off. Was thinking sorcadin but this fits my concept way better.
Quite a surprise to hear about such a huge tome of player content from him tbh, my impression was that he kinda hates the crunch of D&D and much prefers RP-driven games like City of Mist. I recall a video (granted, a few years ago) in which he basically advocated for little-to-no dice rolling 😂
Walnut from the C Team was a druid of Meilikki, the militant goddess of nature reclaiming society, and spring and summer (and subsequently, her other half, Maelyth, the goddess of nature reclaiming the living, winter and fall).
So, I finally got into my very first group. We had our session 0 last Sunday and our first session is this Sunday. I'm trying the Clockwork Sorcerer TANK, with some twists.
Because I can't stand to stretch all of my ability scores too thin, and I'm tired of Paladin Smites......I instead ending up creating a Mountain Dwarf Echo Knight / War Domain Cleric starting w/ 17 STR, 17 CON and 15 WIS. Start with fighter for CON saves, take War Domain at 2 to get access to Bless and the WIS bonus attacks, then go back and take Echo Knight up to 6. With the ASI's at 4 and 6 take Great Weapon Master and +1 to STR/CON together to get better hits/damage and an extra Unleash Incarnation by getting CON up to +4. At that point the build is basically online. I'd probably stick with Cleric from there, along with maybe a half feat at Cleric 4 to get WIS up to 16/+3, but also maybe maxing out STR since its about hitting hard more than anything else. This dude is blessed by Moridin and wants to go hit things super hard as much as possible!
VERY important note 10 months later. When Colby says add a -5 to hit at 16:44 before "correcting" himself, that's mathematically correct. Subtracting a -5 would technically be the same as +5.
I think assuming the monster is going to lose a strength save is bad. Strength saves are usually very high for monsters, especially as the levels go up, so that source of advantage on all subsequent attacks in the nova round is giving this build a lot of boost. Moreover the build stays at 12 constitution for the entire campaign, which must feel awful without warcaster or resilient constitution.
I really love all your support/damage character builds. I always get put into the support role (which I don't mind so much), but I wanna hit things too. So these builds have been really helpful.
War Cleric is definitely one of my favorite Cleric subclasses. I like taking War Cleric dips on martial builds that make a lot of attacks, since they get Divine Favor from a 1st-level dip, adding 1d4 to each hit for a minute from a 1st-level slot.
This is difficult AF to build a war cleric and do not fall into a Warhammer Fantasy Setting's war priest mood... God, I have to return to the Vermintide 2
Dude, at level 6 at least, under your assumptions, this build delivers less damage than a paladin and also brings less support than said paladin. Really at 6th level this build's high note is casting Bless turn 1 and doing 3 attacks with divine smites turn 2, you know, the thing a conquest paladin with PAM+GWM does every single turn w/o using any resources [on top of having the aura, a steed, more healing and more slots for Bless]...cool concept but you're just building a paladin... Really if your plan for party support comes down to Bless and Aid, and your plan for damage comes down to 3 attacks+smite, why aren't you just playing a paladin?
In my games, it will be a bad support character at level 6, as for he will have total 6 spell slots, best half of them used for nova round burst. But it wont stop me for starting as strict fighter 2 then converting to cleric of Tempus at least for 4 (or even 5) levels, and the becoming some of holy guard for some Eldath`s groves and multiclassing to paladin and then progressing cleric/pally to the same effect. Cool story of a soldier who converted to a faith and then finally found out what is worth to be protected. Good for me, I don`t make damage reports at certain levels! Thanks for video.
You could use a god of the Hunt as a War/Nature god too? What's a hunt beyond nature at its most violent, after all. Edit: Especially someone who marshals or oversees a hunt, given the nature of the build.
Three out of four of those new classes you mentioned in the Kickstarter were originally in fourth edition. Gotta love how people constantly say they hate that edition, but still take ideas from it.
I loved so much of the flavour and ideas of 4th edition, but make no mistake it was absolute drudgery! All the classes were well balanced because they felt the same, and it wasn't a roleplaying game anymore, it was just an MMO that you did all the math for.
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 “you may use this ability on a short or long rest” is just 4e’s “encounter power” with extra words. Same with long rest recharge and “daily power”. I’ve been at multiple different tables that straight up adapted 4e’s minion monsters (1 hp, no damage if they succeed on saves) with the only real difference being “which of 5e’s six different saving throws would these be proficient in?” To the people claiming “every class felt the same”, go watch Matt Coville’s “Dusk” streams and find the points where those players feel like they’re all doing the same thing in combat.
This to me is kinda like not liking Warlords of Draenor expansion for WoW. The raids were great, the quest lines were amazing, the zones were beautiful, the story was cool, but the systems SUCKED, so it all felt shit to play, while having tons of good elements.
Is it just me, or is there... what I can only describe as unsettling haunted eldritch warbling in the background of this video? It really clashes with Colby being wholesome and peppy, it's like I'm watching creepypasta. "At level 6, we're taking a level in _offer your spawn to the dweller on the threshold."_
Death Ward let us take down Strahd. Had a rogue with the lightsaber carving him up, she got got by one of his minions, but Death Ward kept her up and the next minion missed by 1. Our healer went next, dropped an epic 3d8 Cure Wounds that was max on the dice roll. With a bit of luck on Strahd's turn, she lived through till her next turn. She chased down the vampire, stride for stride with our Frenzy Barbarian and landed the killing blow sneak attack once they were both there.
There was a homebrew feat i came across a long time ago that let Orc races switch their casting stat to STR by engraving runes on their skin. always wanted to build a war cleric with that!
For a nature oriented aggressive deity in Forgotten Realms, I would recommend Lathander Greater God of: Spring, Dawn, Birth, Youth, Vitaliy, and Athletics. He is NG and has a long history directing his faithful to take the fight to evil, especially undead.
Woot! Had the idea for this kind of build. But I was thinking 5 or 6 levels of kensei monk then full war cleric. Yeah, it takes a bit to ramp up with cleric. But then using the aoe version of divine favor for allies. xD
Oh ho ho... death ward story: I'm playing a Grave Domain cleric in a Curse of Strahd campaign. One of the items we need to seek is in the castle. While crossing the draw bridge, a plank breaks under my foot (really bad roll on a d100). I fail my Dex save and the guy walking in front of me fails his perception check to notice in time that I'm in trouble. As I'm falling I call up something to the effect of "find me at the bottom!" and cast death ward on myself, which I never would have previously prepped, but it is auto-prepped for Grave Domain. I end up at the bottom of a thousand foot drop, having died and been brought back to life at 1 hp with multiple broken bones, waiting for rescue. Grave Clerics... short for "never-dig-a-grave clerics"
Love the idea for the build! Combat Clerics are fun! Side note, I've used trip attack a lot and I'm not sure I've actually tripped anything. Mostly we fight big stuff so their Str is huge, but maybe one day...
You should do a mini series where you challenge yourself to not multiclass. Do one character for every class, but no multiclassing, just to see how much you can get out of each class alone.
I love how often you upload videos about characters concept that I was thinking about few days ago. Because of you i can really enjoy my characters, thank you!
I’m currently playing a Gish rework of this build and I absolutely love it. Because this build does such nice melee damage my spellbook is almost all utility and my parties survivability went through the roof
Cool build and thank you for your great job Colby! I'm a big fan of your sustained damage builds over nova damage builds but , in this case, I feel the combination of power and support is amazing and makes play it as soon as I can 😍
Glad ya finally got around to building one. War Priest is one of those archetypes that just calls to ya. Always looking for ways to make one. Think you did well! Now just waiting on your take of an Aladdin genie Warlock/Bard build support character or the astral self/spore druid mix (think Groot or a certain fellow TH-cam personality 😉🤣) Keep up the good work sir!
I'm very new to dnd and your thoughtful videos have helped me understand how things work, thanks especially for the life cleric/lore bard support character video!
This is one I'm worried about with 2024 rules. How much will the Action Surge rework impact things? Will the War domain features be worth digging deeper into? How about the change to Divine Smite? So many questions!
Here's the fun. An orcish tribe meets a lvl 6 party comprised of a barbarian, a wizard, a gloomstalker and this cleric with a shield. That cleric casts bless on the party. Ohhh so the cleric its the support with the shitty DPR, metathinks the orc chieftain. LET'S KILL THAT SUCKA. The chieftain lays on the cleric and laughs menacingly. The rest of the party is too busy fighting the orcs to attack the orci...BAM 100DMG NOVA!
COLBY, you inquired about a god of NATURE and WAR? Well, I did some research and found - JAROVIT/YAROVIT, a deity from Slavic mythology whose portfolio encompasses the domains of: WAR, protection (of), spring, VEGETATION, nature, etc. Now, warhammers aren't his thing, but I doubt he'd be opposed to one of his followers picking one up in defense of nature. However, to make up for this lack of flavour, his preferred armament that he is oft depicted carrying... a golden shield. Which is a unification of the idea that he is a warrior and protector in service to spring, vegetation, nature, etc. P.S. I posted this once before with a link, and I guess it got stricken down due to community standards, so I would like to apologize for that. Anyway, WB + love this build!
Kibbles is publishing and sponsoring now?? Hell yeah the Griffon's Saddlebag stuff they post on reddit is my favorite source for magic items and it's great to see them publishing stuff in books now!
Won of my most FAVORITE Duunlee Coppercoat. 13 War Domain/7 Battle master Hill Dwarf with the tough feat. He got a weapon that could ad Temp HP for every one he killed. When he was able to suck a large HP creature, Dude could be dropped from ORBIT and still get up to fight. He had 220 base HP before the Temp HP. One of the biggest thing I stumbled on to by accident was Crusader's Mantle and Conjure Animals combo. The ranger summoned 8 (just the base level) panthers. When they hit with a claw they have a chance to knock it prone. If the creature is prone they get a second bite attack. Crusader's Mantle would as 1d4 of radiant damage on EVERY ATTACK. If all hit that would be 8d4 + 16 slashing, 8d6 +16 piercing, plus 32d4 radiant damage. Sure there are better CR 1/4 creatures then the panther but that was kind of his thing, Beast Master with a panther. I think the DM picked Panther.
The "Warp" Preist: Lvl1 War preist variant human+crossbow expert , 6 levels battlemaster archer (precision strike) +sharpshooter +ASI, 13 levels your favorite wizard. Obvs Dex and INT are your main stats here, we're only using cleric spells for bless and word of healing on downed party members. Point of this build is to get bonus attacks and damage early in game-play but not be boring at later tiers of play.
Wizard cleric with quicken from Metamagic Adept fighting an Ancient Gold Dragon. Had Death Ward on myself and the rest of the party was down and decided to be stupid. Cast Magic Jar and the dragon had burned its legendary resistances and failed the save. I'm now temporarily the dragon so i breath weapon-ed my body and next round cast Catapult on the jar through my familiar 15 feet away. Jar breaks, dragon soul dies, my body is dead so I instantly die but DEATH WARD SAYS NO. Now I'm a friggin' Ancient Gold Dragon shapshifted into my normal form just walking about the place. PS. I was enough cleric to have revivify and rezzed my allies after the fight was over but....yeah....shenanigans!
I know it's an older video by now, so this will be lost in the comments. But a Holy Gish is my favorite kind of Gish to play. One of my favorite characters was a Samurai Fighter with a couple of levels into War Priest. My table plays with Standard Array instead of Point Buy, so I can't optimize quite as much as I would like. But with Standard Array and starting as a half elf using the Tasha's rule to reallocate stat bonuses, I started with a 16 Strength, 16 Wisdom, and a 14 Constitution. Level 1 start fighter. Martial weapons, Con saving throw proficiency, and the defense fighting style. Level go Cleric and pick War Priest. That gives me the bonus action Attack wisdom modifier times per day. As well as Divine Favor. That is the kind of spell I love using as a Gish character. Something to enchant my sword to make it deal more damage. After that take fighter for 5 more levels, picking up the Samurai Subclass and the Great Weapon Master feat along the way. So the level 6 damage report looks great. Against a low AC enemy, you can turn on Great Weapon Master, and with Extra Attack, Action Surge, and War Priest, you can hit the enemy 5 times with a greatsword. Against an enemy with a higher AC, you can use the samurai feature to sacrifice your bonus action to gain advantage on all your attacks this turn. So with action surge that is 4 attacks all with advantage, allowing you to still activate Great Weapon Master and still reliably hit. While the bonus action on this build is kind of clogged between war priest, samurai, and casting Divine Favor, I prefer to look at is as a tool belt of options, rather than a checklist of abilities to activate to be effective in combat. I also talked with my DM to reflavor activating Great Weapon Master to make my sword glow with divine energy, sort of like the effect that Sting has in LotR, and that is where the extra damage comes from. It's sort of like a poor man's Paladin Smite. It's not the most optimal build out there. But I just love the feeling of a Holy Gish, someone really using their wisdom, as opposed to a Paladin who needs a decent Charisma.
I love Clerics, my curent character is a bow wielding orc. I grabbed 2-3 levels of Rogue, which gets us extra damage on bow weapons. Damage round is Guiding Bolt followed by Sneak Attack bow, Guided Strikes almost guarantees both attacks hit.
FWIW, the War domain's limited number of BA attacks per day isn't so bad when you remember that Spiritual Weapon is a domain spell for them, so you'll almost always have access to at least one other way to weaponize your BA (at least from level 3 onward). On a straight classed Cleric, you'll probably have at least an 18 Wis eventually (even if you want to max your Str as a War Cleric), which should be enough War Priest attacks to get you through at least one combat a day before you can fall back on good old Spiritual Weapon/Spirit Guardians in later fights
Hey uh... Since your sponsored by it anyway, you wanna do a couple builds with kibble's homebrew? I'll support it if you do... (I've already purchased a hard cover)
I played a Wood Elf War Cleric of Tempus for the Rage of Demons campaign until level 13. He had been given some cool magic items like a Rod of Lordly Might, Slippers of Spider Climbing, and a Belt of Storm Giant Strength, as well as a magic shield +3 with special powers which had to be rolled for but eventually lost while captured. Eventually, I decided to have him multiclass into a Fighter. Still deciding what subclass to choose but Rune Knight, Echo Knight, and Eldritch Knight are candidates. His feats were War Caster, Heavy Weapon Master, Resilient Constitution, and Magic Initiate Wizard to get Find Familiar (a Tressym, which automatically detects poison and also flies). The campaign ended with the cleric deciding to fight a battle against the demons inside the Drow city of Menzoberranzan. It resulted in destruction of the city, which caused the Tempus priesthood to censure him for causing destruction to "innocent bystanders" but he hated the evil works of the inhabitants anyway so he didn't care about the judgment and will just fight for Tempus as his Fighter without advancing in the cleric ranks. Now he's temporarily retired until another campaign opens up for level 15 and upwards.
As soon as you said God of War and Nature... I was like the Cheesy Colby Jack is back at it. Points for Anna Begins. Agreed they missing out. Got to check out the entire August and Everything After album. Especially Perfect Blue Buildings.
Hello there, Colby. Recently, my head came up with the question for myself: "How do you wanne progress your character, that is in core the "Whispers of Veangence?" (How I'd like to name the mutliclass between Veangence Paladin and Whispers Bard) She started as a pali, is now lvl 6 and I think about progessing pali first to get the aura, for being a better tank. Dispite starting as a pali she got "Viscious Mockery," "Mind Sliver" and "Healing Word" via a variant human free feat "Magic Initiate" for the purpose of being unique as well as fun to play. So I came up with a little bit of an idea for a challenge for you: What if you would be forced to go "Whispers of Veangence" as early as possible (lvl 6) for the negotiation option to combine the "Abjure Enemy" channel divinity option with the "Words of Terror". Dispite me going pali first lvl, be free in picking either starting class. I'd like to see how your build would progress and questioning myself what would you end up with. Maybe you go Nova as did it so many times before, maybe you come up with an idea to make a pretty solide tank or maybe just maybe you character would focus on a very cruel way to negotiate with npc's. If you for some odd reason become tempted to accept this challange, I would very much love to see, where you maybe find a hidden gem, I overlooked. And last but not least, thank you for inspiring so many tables all over the world. Just a german dude taking his hat off to your work.
About feeling like wasting your turn using bless: Aside from the numbers being in favor of using Bless, it can actualy feel epic to spend your turn buffing if you flavor it appropriately - think DBZ-transformations, for instance. I am playing a Undead Warlock / Divine Soul Sorcerer - with Undead features reflavored to work with the Raven Queen - and spend my first turn using Bless and Form of Dread. Bless in this case is flavored as sharing a special "Raven Vision", which helps seeing the weakpoints of enemies, when I invoke the power of the Raven Queen by transforming with Form of Dread.
Hey, Colby! This was an interesting build, and I may incorporate some ideas for my forge cleric. Regarding the live play, congrats on the staff…. But I wonder if you were to home brew an item, what would be the features of the Staff of Aneria? Just curious. Thanks for everything!
Any suggestions for a Paladin subclass other than Oath of the Ancients? Edit: How rude of me. Love the concept Critlander! Looking forward to your next pathfinder build.
You were right the first time when you said "add -5". If you subtract -5, that becomes a positive, and now you have a +5. Yay, math. I agree that going paladin feels more like a "war priest". If you went more fighter, it'd arguably be more of a "templar" instead. Fun fact: Pathfinder 1e has a warpriest class. It's a hybrid of the cleric and fighter, and has paladin utility. Colby needs a recording deal at this point. Too great of a voice to be ignored for this long. Appreciate the Counting Crows name drop. So many people don't even know them. They're a really good band, and I'm glad I have their albums and got to see them in concert. I wonder if the military base had scheduled some maneuver training that day. We have that here too. Less so during the freezing winter though.
Hey, I’m trying to create an Arcane Trickster for a little one shot that might turn into a character for a campaign. I was thinking of a Mark of Shadow Elf for that and maaaaaybe multiclass into fighter but at least till mid levels I’d rather just stick to Rogue for the casting progression, Uncanny Dodge, Evasion and Sneak Attack scaling as well. Have you done any videos on Arcane Trickster? I tried looking it up but I couldn’t find it, if you haven’t, I’d love to see one! (Love your videos by the way!)
Video idea: druid and monk. When you wildshape, you make weaponles attacks, and your ac is higher, because of armourless defence. I got this from DnD-Schorts, Im sure you will make a great build out of this.
You might want to look at real-world mythology if you're looking for a war + nature deity. There are a couple of Slavic gods that fit the bill (Jarovit is a god of vegetation, fertility and Spring who is also associated with war and the harvest, and Svetovid is a god of war, fertility and abundance, among others) and the Celts ... well, nearly every Celtic god seems to be associated with war and nature in some way, but the standouts would include Bellona (goddess of horses), Anann (an Irish goddess associated with war, death, cattle and fertility among other aspects), Herne the master of the Wild Hunt, or even the Morrigan, who is associated with crows and ravens ... though those last two are a bit of a stretch. There's even Dionysus/Bacchus from Greek and Roman myth. Again it's a bit of a stretch since he's not a war god per se, but the violence of his followers, the Meanads, is literally legendary ... Anyway, just a few ideas for inspiration ...
9:00 - 9:14 I don't know much about dnd and Pathfinder settings and their gods, but Mars (of Roman war god fame) is a god of not just war but also agriculture. There's also Satet in ancient Egyptian mythology, a war goddess who was also a goddess of hunting and fertility, and personified the Nile's annual flooding (important for agriculture). And Perun is a Slavic god of a whole bunch of things including weather-related things and war and oak trees. And Yahweh way back in the ancient Levant was pretty much a god of war and weather before all the henotheism and eventual monotheism. As for straight up "war and nature" gods, it's hard to find many gods that are about "nature" as a whole on its own, let alone that and war. Nature tends to be deified as a lot of separate (sometimes overlapping) things, some of which are better filled by other domains like Light (sun) or Tempest (Perun, Yahweh, other sky and weather gods, I'd say even some adjacent ones like Poseidon with his sea and earthquakes). The 5e Nature Cleric kinda leans more to the "the forest and the animals in it" thing that Silvanus and Artemis* would embody (but neither of them are war gods), but you could argue that agriculture also goes in that, in which case Mars and Satet would fit the Nature and War domains. *Nature is even listed as one of the things she's the goddess of P.S. We still get to make up our own, that's part of the fun ;) (and I tend to not bring real-world religions into my dnd worlds except as inspiration, filing off the serial numbers and all that)
I have a similar concept but with a heavier focus on spells and only occasional melee big hits. Start with an protector aasimar Divine Soul Sorcerer 1 (Con save plus shield, feather fall and healing word for support/tank duties) then Paladin 2 to gain fighting style and divine smite, then War Cleric to finally gain heavy armour proficiency. This character wants to be an angel and doesn't like to get his hands dirty in melee, but when he does he can choose the +10 to (guarantee???) hit and then pile on a massive smite as he's got pretty good spell slots availability. Not as optimal as your build I'm sure but definitely in my list of future characters. If only I had enough games to play all the characters I want!
An idea for a future build: the "voodoo child", a character built around a combination between the phantom rogue and the college of spirits bard. I don't know what it can become (sustained DPR, nova damage, tank, support...) but the image of a fortune teller / card reader / voodoo practitioner is pretty awesome in my opinion
why am i invisioning a "Iron Hammer" type vibe from this build ..... Iron Hammer is a marvel mess between Thor and Iron Man, aweesome concept. wields a rather large hammer.
"... and then use a quarterstaff and a shield all the time instead of pulling a big maul in your nova round"... What about a big ass wooden mallet xD? That's shillellag approved.
Can anyone here recommend an Build/Video that would work as a mage hunter character concept? A character specializing in silencing or counterspelling (Ironic I know) spell casters, dispelling magic, and being able to put pressure on the spell caster either from a range or melee. I have no preferance since I want to gather inspiration from multiple sources either way and I am a bit lacking in general DND knowlage so learning new things is nice. The spellbreaker from Warcraft 3 was my inspiration to learn more about this type of build fyi. Thank you in advance!
You really don't need to go "dark" to justify that level in fighter. Seems consistent with the concept. Like, maybe every war cleric should do this? I'm sure it is out there somewhere on the interwebs, but what about a ranged war cleric, maybe working for Apollo or Artemis?
Good vid and I watched it all ... what I really want to see is the SAME WAR PRIEST in PF2 - please! I am planning to play one and need your help exactly on that. Will be so cool to compare the two systems on this character.
Hey everybody I am playing a new campaign and made a Hexblade archer and I have this idea thematically to multi class into twilight domain cleric. 🤷♂️ I’m pretty new so I don’t know how strong it could actually be but it sounds really fun to me. Do you guys think there is a way to make it optimized and keep up with any other kind of archer build. I’m sure it might lack a little oomph as other archery builds but you get some more support options.
ב"ה My favorite war cleric start with 5 levels of ranger and then just go all the rest of the way cleric. It is a pretty good mix of sustained damage, burst damage and support. For melee builds I prefer death clerics, and probably start with 6 levels of eldritch knight for shield and absorb elements because we are going frontline.
Hey Colby to let you know. I've been thinking of building this kind of a character. I've also wanted to ask if I may? I also had an idea about another character that is not as B.A. as this build, but does if his friends are hurt. In my idea he suedo hulks out to be a leonin style character. BTW he is in my solo game a tabaxi that is of timid nature. Has two female friends that is a tiefling monk, and barbarian half-orc. What would you possibly suggest if anything. Thanks in advance
Errata (kind of): I forget sometimes that doffing/donning a shield technically requires an action (we treat it as a free action akin to drawing a weapon at our table) so, yes, for those mentioning it, it might be tricky to nova with a maul then pull out your shield for subsequent rounds if you're playing RAW.
If you're able to pull it off, hopefully the player of this build can convince their DM to allow the PC to find or craft an animated shield. It is an action, but it lasts 1 minute, and it could be something that's done before combat starts.
Haha, I came to the comments as soon as you said it to let you know and here you've already got it 🤣 "He throws down his shield... after using his other hand to undo the belts holding the massive disk of metal to his arm, and NEXT round, pulls out his weapon and leaves a crater where an enemy used to be." 😁 Yeah, Animated Shield is that guy's new BFF.
I forget this too sometimes. I hope one D&D gives you two object interactions. Open and close the door. Sheath one weapon and draw a different one. Draw both s
Weapons at the beginning of combat, etc.
Hey Colby, I've been thinking about a Dhampir build (inspired by your tank Dhampir). What do you think of using the Ranger (hunter) tech with the diivine strike feature of the war cleric, then adding in battle master and hexblade's curse dip?
No shields! My faith is my shield! FOR SIGMAR! FOR THE EMPIRE!
Colby hits us with that wholesome dad energy, welcoming us home every week. Always love that intro.
@@hadeszero4526 but he did
@@hadeszero4526 0:54 my guy
@@basicallyimrob2271whaaaaa 💥 my brain skipped I totally didn't hear it. thank you.
If I don't hear it I rewind to hear it, bugs me if I don't notice it haha
100% agree, videos wouldn’t be the same without it and I love him even more for it!
The trick to playing a support is to not play a lazy bottom that doesn't really help out making some energy, but instead everyone should bring what they like and preferably something that brings some energy to the table.
Excellent build but shadowed by the amazing outakes ;)
I’m actually playing a cleric in my current campaign. I’m going Death Cleric but this will probably help me still… also there’s the whole Death Cleric video but I’m trying to go melee
Uh, dofting or donning a shield is an action.
The War Priest: D&D5e #128
Level 1:(see above) [cleric 1, subclass, race & feat]
Level 2:(see above) [cleric 2]
Level 3:(@16:50) [paladin 1]
Level 4:(@17:56) [paladin 2 & fighting-style]
Level 5:(@20:02) [fighter 1 & fighting-style]
Level 6:(@22:30) [fighter 2]
Level 7:(see above) [cleric 3]
Level 8:(@27:19) [paladin 3]
Level 9:(@32:33) [cleric 4 & ASI]
Level 10:(see above) [paladin 4 & ASI]
Level 11:(@34:05) [cleric 5]
Level 12:(@36:32) [paladin 5]
Level 13:(@38:18) [cleric 6]
Level 14:(see above) [paladin 6]
Level 15:(@41:00) [cleric 7]
Level 16:(@42:03) [paladin 7]
Level 17:(@42:30) [cleric 8 & ASI]
this man's comments are the first i look for when checking a build to get a quick preview....
@@SoHxPaladin thank you for your kind words.
@@SoHxPaladinsame
If you play with real life pantheons, Freya is both a goddess of war and nature.
Real life imaginary things... Opposed to imaginary imaginary things?
@Lloyd Lineske I'm pretty sure no one has actually worshipped the raven Queen, while people have and actually some still do worshipped or believe in Odin.
@@Awstrev9595 And those people are wrong.
@@lloydlineske2642* *tips fedora* *
@@lloydlineske2642 🤓
When you want to make the enemy feel the weight of their sins a bit more literally.
That sponser looks amazing! It's not every day we get new classes. I'm always excited to see more of them, especially with all of these character ideas are festering in my head
kibbles has a previous book called "compendium of craft and creation", it has a full class for "inventor" (legally distinct artificer) with I think 10 subclasses, a full psion, a bunch of subclasses in the themes of gadgedtry and psionics for exsisting classes, new spells, new monsters. And half of the book is a modular crafting system that tries to cover pretty much everything.
The current kickstarter of legends and legacies does feature add-ons that allow you to get the prevous book.
Yeah, I was really impressed by Colby's brief overview
I’m so glad you are doing a war cleric build! I love the idea of war clerics, but they always seemed a little underpowered in my mind
I very much agree. I played one for Mine of Phandelver. It was fun, but it is needs to be improved for D&D One. I think adding Inspiring Leader as an eventual skill that and maybe a weaker than paladin divine smite could help.
its just not punchy enough. Warpriest and divine strike don't substitute for extra attack.
But, because of warpriest, and divine favor as a domain spell, they are good dips for characters that have extra attack
I had a friend who would call war clerics "better paladins." I would generally push back that war clerics don't get smites, and she'd dismiss it, thinking smites weren't that big of a deal. Then she played a paladin for a while, and suddenly she stopped talking about how good war clerics are.
There are only 3 official deities that have both Nature and War as a domain (4 if you include Quajath from Exandria in the Wildemount book), two of which are from Eberron and the other an Elven deity. The two from Eberron's pantheon are Balinor and the Spirits of the Past, and the Elven god is Solonor Thelandria. So there's a small list to pull from for some character ideas...depending on the setting.
I think I would multiclass slightly differently. Keeping with your "mostly cleric" restriction, I would get to Cleric 5/Paladin 5 before moving into Fighter 2. Support abilities (your primary role) and extra attack would come a little bit faster, and then action surge pushes you ahead once the effectiveness of cleric abilities start tapering off. I haven't run the numbers, but my intuition says the power gain would be a little more steady rather than the massive power at level 6 and quick drop off seen in the video. But I bet the numbers wouldn't be that different, really.
Too bad Guided Strike from conquest paladin doesn't somehow stack with Guided Strike from war cleric. That combo would be a perfect flavor win.
"... a hexblade warlock dip, that involves a patron that lives in a tree branch that you use as a club.. it could work.." what an idea. You have really good descriptions for stuff. Even the war priest description about how they are simply a support character but once in a while they drop their shield, pull out a giant hammer and make a crater. Immediately makes me visualize.
Mielikki comes to mind for War and Nature. She is the Goddess of Rangers.
Blessed Sigmar, by the comet and the hammer I pledge to the coming battle. I vow not to waver and never retreat, to stand tall against the flames of perdition, to drive back the shadow of Chaos with your holy light. VICTORY FAVORS THE FAITHFUL, LET US TEACH THEM FEAR!
This is perfect advice for my fallen angel PC in a Hell-based campaign that’s about to kick off. Was thinking sorcadin but this fits my concept way better.
Glad to see you plugging kibbles, been playing their stuff for a while, I love his creativity and finger on what 5e needs!
Quite a surprise to hear about such a huge tome of player content from him tbh, my impression was that he kinda hates the crunch of D&D and much prefers RP-driven games like City of Mist. I recall a video (granted, a few years ago) in which he basically advocated for little-to-no dice rolling 😂
Walnut from the C Team was a druid of Meilikki, the militant goddess of nature reclaiming society, and spring and summer (and subsequently, her other half, Maelyth, the goddess of nature reclaiming the living, winter and fall).
So, I finally got into my very first group. We had our session 0 last Sunday and our first session is this Sunday. I'm trying the Clockwork Sorcerer TANK, with some twists.
Curse of Strahd is my first campaign.
Congrats!
Because I can't stand to stretch all of my ability scores too thin, and I'm tired of Paladin Smites......I instead ending up creating a Mountain Dwarf Echo Knight / War Domain Cleric starting w/ 17 STR, 17 CON and 15 WIS. Start with fighter for CON saves, take War Domain at 2 to get access to Bless and the WIS bonus attacks, then go back and take Echo Knight up to 6. With the ASI's at 4 and 6 take Great Weapon Master and +1 to STR/CON together to get better hits/damage and an extra Unleash Incarnation by getting CON up to +4. At that point the build is basically online. I'd probably stick with Cleric from there, along with maybe a half feat at Cleric 4 to get WIS up to 16/+3, but also maybe maxing out STR since its about hitting hard more than anything else. This dude is blessed by Moridin and wants to go hit things super hard as much as possible!
Love it, taking it. With Battlemaster instead of Echo Knight. Love me some maneuvers.
VERY important note 10 months later. When Colby says add a -5 to hit at 16:44 before "correcting" himself, that's mathematically correct. Subtracting a -5 would technically be the same as +5.
I think assuming the monster is going to lose a strength save is bad. Strength saves are usually very high for monsters, especially as the levels go up, so that source of advantage on all subsequent attacks in the nova round is giving this build a lot of boost. Moreover the build stays at 12 constitution for the entire campaign, which must feel awful without warcaster or resilient constitution.
I really love all your support/damage character builds. I always get put into the support role (which I don't mind so much), but I wanna hit things too. So these builds have been really helpful.
War Cleric is definitely one of my favorite Cleric subclasses. I like taking War Cleric dips on martial builds that make a lot of attacks, since they get Divine Favor from a 1st-level dip, adding 1d4 to each hit for a minute from a 1st-level slot.
This is difficult AF to build a war cleric and do not fall into a Warhammer Fantasy Setting's war priest mood... God, I have to return to the Vermintide 2
Dude, at level 6 at least, under your assumptions, this build delivers less damage than a paladin and also brings less support than said paladin. Really at 6th level this build's high note is casting Bless turn 1 and doing 3 attacks with divine smites turn 2, you know, the thing a conquest paladin with PAM+GWM does every single turn w/o using any resources [on top of having the aura, a steed, more healing and more slots for Bless]...cool concept but you're just building a paladin...
Really if your plan for party support comes down to Bless and Aid, and your plan for damage comes down to 3 attacks+smite, why aren't you just playing a paladin?
In my games, it will be a bad support character at level 6, as for he will have total 6 spell slots, best half of them used for nova round burst.
But it wont stop me for starting as strict fighter 2 then converting to cleric of Tempus at least for 4 (or even 5) levels, and the becoming some of holy guard for some Eldath`s groves and multiclassing to paladin and then progressing cleric/pally to the same effect. Cool story of a soldier who converted to a faith and then finally found out what is worth to be protected.
Good for me, I don`t make damage reports at certain levels!
Thanks for video.
You could use a god of the Hunt as a War/Nature god too? What's a hunt beyond nature at its most violent, after all.
Edit: Especially someone who marshals or oversees a hunt, given the nature of the build.
Three out of four of those new classes you mentioned in the Kickstarter were originally in fourth edition. Gotta love how people constantly say they hate that edition, but still take ideas from it.
Maybe we hate the gameplay, not the classes -shrug-
I loved so much of the flavour and ideas of 4th edition, but make no mistake it was absolute drudgery!
All the classes were well balanced because they felt the same, and it wasn't a roleplaying game anymore, it was just an MMO that you did all the math for.
@@johannesstephanusroos4969 “you may use this ability on a short or long rest” is just 4e’s “encounter power” with extra words. Same with long rest recharge and “daily power”.
I’ve been at multiple different tables that straight up adapted 4e’s minion monsters (1 hp, no damage if they succeed on saves) with the only real difference being “which of 5e’s six different saving throws would these be proficient in?”
To the people claiming “every class felt the same”, go watch Matt Coville’s “Dusk” streams and find the points where those players feel like they’re all doing the same thing in combat.
@@animefan3794 No u
This to me is kinda like not liking Warlords of Draenor expansion for WoW. The raids were great, the quest lines were amazing, the zones were beautiful, the story was cool, but the systems SUCKED, so it all felt shit to play, while having tons of good elements.
Is it just me, or is there... what I can only describe as unsettling haunted eldritch warbling in the background of this video? It really clashes with Colby being wholesome and peppy, it's like I'm watching creepypasta. "At level 6, we're taking a level in _offer your spawn to the dweller on the threshold."_
Death Ward let us take down Strahd. Had a rogue with the lightsaber carving him up, she got got by one of his minions, but Death Ward kept her up and the next minion missed by 1. Our healer went next, dropped an epic 3d8 Cure Wounds that was max on the dice roll. With a bit of luck on Strahd's turn, she lived through till her next turn. She chased down the vampire, stride for stride with our Frenzy Barbarian and landed the killing blow sneak attack once they were both there.
Is taking Cleric, given the stat requirement, really superior to Divine Soul Sorcerer?
There was a homebrew feat i came across a long time ago that let Orc races switch their casting stat to STR by engraving runes on their skin. always wanted to build a war cleric with that!
For a nature oriented aggressive deity in Forgotten Realms, I would recommend Lathander Greater God of: Spring, Dawn, Birth, Youth, Vitaliy, and Athletics. He is NG and has a long history directing his faithful to take the fight to evil, especially undead.
Woot!
Had the idea for this kind of build. But I was thinking 5 or 6 levels of kensei monk then full war cleric. Yeah, it takes a bit to ramp up with cleric. But then using the aoe version of divine favor for allies. xD
Silvanus from Forgotten Realms, or if you want to go mythology, Diana/Artemis (goddess of the hunt)
Nice, his favored weapon is also the Maul
Orion from the Warhammer series is a good choice for a War/Nature diety
"By Sigmar and the hammer, I judge you all!"
I understood this reference. 😄
That's going in the Book of Grudges
Oh ho ho... death ward story:
I'm playing a Grave Domain cleric in a Curse of Strahd campaign. One of the items we need to seek is in the castle. While crossing the draw bridge, a plank breaks under my foot (really bad roll on a d100). I fail my Dex save and the guy walking in front of me fails his perception check to notice in time that I'm in trouble. As I'm falling I call up something to the effect of "find me at the bottom!" and cast death ward on myself, which I never would have previously prepped, but it is auto-prepped for Grave Domain. I end up at the bottom of a thousand foot drop, having died and been brought back to life at 1 hp with multiple broken bones, waiting for rescue.
Grave Clerics... short for "never-dig-a-grave clerics"
Ha!
16:44 Mathematically, it would be adding a minus 5 to hit, not subtracting a minus 5. You had it right the first time! 👍
More Pathfinder 2e content please!
Love how much you boost up other creators! Your character builds are a ton of fun.
nature and violence? sounds like Malar to me!
Love the idea for the build! Combat Clerics are fun!
Side note, I've used trip attack a lot and I'm not sure I've actually tripped anything. Mostly we fight big stuff so their Str is huge, but maybe one day...
You should do a mini series where you challenge yourself to not multiclass. Do one character for every class, but no multiclassing, just to see how much you can get out of each class alone.
Will next weeks pathfinder build go past level 6? Or are u still too uncomfortable with the system to go further?
I managed to get it to 9... barely :P
@@DnDDeepDive I'm sure you will get the hang of it eventually, I am super excited for the new pathfinder content!
Just past 300K on Kibbles woot. Let's keep it going everyone.
Paladin is the best support class in the game already. Bless on turn one, include the most people in your aura, go to town on turn 2.
I love how often you upload videos about characters concept that I was thinking about few days ago. Because of you i can really enjoy my characters, thank you!
Nice new little intro style!
I’m currently playing a Gish rework of this build and I absolutely love it. Because this build does such nice melee damage my spellbook is almost all utility and my parties survivability went through the roof
Cool build and thank you for your great job Colby! I'm a big fan of your sustained damage builds over nova damage builds but , in this case, I feel the combination of power and support is amazing and makes play it as soon as I can 😍
I think Artemis may be a good pick for a good for a nature/war cleric
Though I feel a bow becomes essential suddenly
Nah no worries mate. That sudden want of bow is just her bad-ass good-girl divine energy flowing through from just mentioning her name.
I built a "Shotgun Priest" War Cleric by going Sharpshooter instead of GWM. It was really awesome.
Glad ya finally got around to building one. War Priest is one of those archetypes that just calls to ya. Always looking for ways to make one. Think you did well!
Now just waiting on your take of an Aladdin genie Warlock/Bard build support character or the astral self/spore druid mix (think Groot or a certain fellow TH-cam personality 😉🤣)
Keep up the good work sir!
I'm very new to dnd and your thoughtful videos have helped me understand how things work, thanks especially for the life cleric/lore bard support character video!
This is one I'm worried about with 2024 rules. How much will the Action Surge rework impact things? Will the War domain features be worth digging deeper into? How about the change to Divine Smite? So many questions!
Here's the fun. An orcish tribe meets a lvl 6 party comprised of a barbarian, a wizard, a gloomstalker and this cleric with a shield. That cleric casts bless on the party.
Ohhh so the cleric its the support with the shitty DPR, metathinks the orc chieftain. LET'S KILL THAT SUCKA.
The chieftain lays on the cleric and laughs menacingly. The rest of the party is too busy fighting the orcs to attack the orci...BAM 100DMG NOVA!
COLBY, you inquired about a god of NATURE and WAR? Well, I did some research and found - JAROVIT/YAROVIT, a deity from Slavic mythology whose portfolio encompasses the domains of: WAR, protection (of), spring, VEGETATION, nature, etc.
Now, warhammers aren't his thing, but I doubt he'd be opposed to one of his followers picking one up in defense of nature. However, to make up for this lack of flavour, his preferred armament that he is oft depicted carrying... a golden shield. Which is a unification of the idea that he is a warrior and protector in service to spring, vegetation, nature, etc.
P.S.
I posted this once before with a link, and I guess it got stricken down due to community standards, so I would like to apologize for that. Anyway, WB + love this build!
Kibbles is publishing and sponsoring now?? Hell yeah the Griffon's Saddlebag stuff they post on reddit is my favorite source for magic items and it's great to see them publishing stuff in books now!
Won of my most FAVORITE Duunlee Coppercoat. 13 War Domain/7 Battle master Hill Dwarf with the tough feat. He got a weapon that could ad Temp HP for every one he killed. When he was able to suck a large HP creature, Dude could be dropped from ORBIT and still get up to fight. He had 220 base HP before the Temp HP. One of the biggest thing I stumbled on to by accident was Crusader's Mantle and Conjure Animals combo. The ranger summoned 8 (just the base level) panthers. When they hit with a claw they have a chance to knock it prone. If the creature is prone they get a second bite attack. Crusader's Mantle would as 1d4 of radiant damage on EVERY ATTACK. If all hit that would be 8d4 + 16 slashing, 8d6 +16 piercing, plus 32d4 radiant damage.
Sure there are better CR 1/4 creatures then the panther but that was kind of his thing, Beast Master with a panther. I think the DM picked Panther.
(16:46) Well actually "adding a minus 5" is more acurate than "subtracting minus 5" 😆
The "Warp" Preist: Lvl1 War preist variant human+crossbow expert , 6 levels battlemaster archer (precision strike) +sharpshooter +ASI, 13 levels your favorite wizard. Obvs Dex and INT are your main stats here, we're only using cleric spells for bless and word of healing on downed party members. Point of this build is to get bonus attacks and damage early in game-play but not be boring at later tiers of play.
Wizard cleric with quicken from Metamagic Adept fighting an Ancient Gold Dragon. Had Death Ward on myself and the rest of the party was down and decided to be stupid. Cast Magic Jar and the dragon had burned its legendary resistances and failed the save. I'm now temporarily the dragon so i breath weapon-ed my body and next round cast Catapult on the jar through my familiar 15 feet away. Jar breaks, dragon soul dies, my body is dead so I instantly die but DEATH WARD SAYS NO. Now I'm a friggin' Ancient Gold Dragon shapshifted into my normal form just walking about the place.
PS. I was enough cleric to have revivify and rezzed my allies after the fight was over but....yeah....shenanigans!
16:40 mathematically speaking, 'adding -5' is more accurate than saying 'subtracting -5' ;-)
I know it's an older video by now, so this will be lost in the comments. But a Holy Gish is my favorite kind of Gish to play. One of my favorite characters was a Samurai Fighter with a couple of levels into War Priest. My table plays with Standard Array instead of Point Buy, so I can't optimize quite as much as I would like. But with Standard Array and starting as a half elf using the Tasha's rule to reallocate stat bonuses, I started with a 16 Strength, 16 Wisdom, and a 14 Constitution.
Level 1 start fighter. Martial weapons, Con saving throw proficiency, and the defense fighting style. Level go Cleric and pick War Priest. That gives me the bonus action Attack wisdom modifier times per day. As well as Divine Favor. That is the kind of spell I love using as a Gish character. Something to enchant my sword to make it deal more damage. After that take fighter for 5 more levels, picking up the Samurai Subclass and the Great Weapon Master feat along the way. So the level 6 damage report looks great.
Against a low AC enemy, you can turn on Great Weapon Master, and with Extra Attack, Action Surge, and War Priest, you can hit the enemy 5 times with a greatsword. Against an enemy with a higher AC, you can use the samurai feature to sacrifice your bonus action to gain advantage on all your attacks this turn. So with action surge that is 4 attacks all with advantage, allowing you to still activate Great Weapon Master and still reliably hit.
While the bonus action on this build is kind of clogged between war priest, samurai, and casting Divine Favor, I prefer to look at is as a tool belt of options, rather than a checklist of abilities to activate to be effective in combat. I also talked with my DM to reflavor activating Great Weapon Master to make my sword glow with divine energy, sort of like the effect that Sting has in LotR, and that is where the extra damage comes from. It's sort of like a poor man's Paladin Smite. It's not the most optimal build out there. But I just love the feeling of a Holy Gish, someone really using their wisdom, as opposed to a Paladin who needs a decent Charisma.
It was 666 so I didn't upvote.... You kiddin me!!!! Of course I upvoted it Colby is awesome!!!!
I'm going for a fighter warpriest multiclass in bg3. LOVING it so far. Going for a lvl 8 fighter battlemaster, lvl4 war cleric.
Who lives in a tree branch you use as a club? (Spongebob Squarepants!)
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(Super fun build, btw.)
I love Clerics, my curent character is a bow wielding orc. I grabbed 2-3 levels of Rogue, which gets us extra damage on bow weapons.
Damage round is Guiding Bolt followed by Sneak Attack bow, Guided Strikes almost guarantees both attacks hit.
FWIW, the War domain's limited number of BA attacks per day isn't so bad when you remember that Spiritual Weapon is a domain spell for them, so you'll almost always have access to at least one other way to weaponize your BA (at least from level 3 onward). On a straight classed Cleric, you'll probably have at least an 18 Wis eventually (even if you want to max your Str as a War Cleric), which should be enough War Priest attacks to get you through at least one combat a day before you can fall back on good old Spiritual Weapon/Spirit Guardians in later fights
Hey uh...
Since your sponsored by it anyway, you wanna do a couple builds with kibble's homebrew? I'll support it if you do... (I've already purchased a hard cover)
I played a Wood Elf War Cleric of Tempus for the Rage of Demons campaign until level 13. He had been given some cool magic items like a Rod of Lordly Might, Slippers of Spider Climbing, and a Belt of Storm Giant Strength, as well as a magic shield +3 with special powers which had to be rolled for but eventually lost while captured. Eventually, I decided to have him multiclass into a Fighter. Still deciding what subclass to choose but Rune Knight, Echo Knight, and Eldritch Knight are candidates. His feats were War Caster, Heavy Weapon Master, Resilient Constitution, and Magic Initiate Wizard to get Find Familiar (a Tressym, which automatically detects poison and also flies).
The campaign ended with the cleric deciding to fight a battle against the demons inside the Drow city of Menzoberranzan. It resulted in destruction of the city, which caused the Tempus priesthood to censure him for causing destruction to "innocent bystanders" but he hated the evil works of the inhabitants anyway so he didn't care about the judgment and will just fight for Tempus as his Fighter without advancing in the cleric ranks. Now he's temporarily retired until another campaign opens up for level 15 and upwards.
As soon as you said God of War and Nature... I was like the Cheesy Colby Jack is back at it.
Points for Anna Begins.
Agreed they missing out. Got to check out the entire August and Everything After album. Especially Perfect Blue Buildings.
Hello there, Colby.
Recently, my head came up with the question for myself: "How do you wanne progress your character, that is in core the "Whispers of Veangence?" (How I'd like to name the mutliclass between Veangence Paladin and Whispers Bard)
She started as a pali, is now lvl 6 and I think about progessing pali first to get the aura, for being a better tank. Dispite starting as a pali she got "Viscious Mockery," "Mind Sliver" and "Healing Word" via a variant human free feat "Magic Initiate" for the purpose of being unique as well as fun to play.
So I came up with a little bit of an idea for a challenge for you:
What if you would be forced to go "Whispers of Veangence" as early as possible (lvl 6) for the negotiation option to combine the "Abjure Enemy" channel divinity option with the "Words of Terror".
Dispite me going pali first lvl, be free in picking either starting class.
I'd like to see how your build would progress and questioning myself what would you end up with. Maybe you go Nova as did it so many times before, maybe you come up with an idea to make a pretty solide tank or maybe just maybe you character would focus on a very cruel way to negotiate with npc's.
If you for some odd reason become tempted to accept this challange, I would very much love to see, where you maybe find a hidden gem, I overlooked.
And last but not least, thank you for inspiring so many tables all over the world.
Just a german dude taking his hat off to your work.
About feeling like wasting your turn using bless: Aside from the numbers being in favor of using Bless, it can actualy feel epic to spend your turn buffing if you flavor it appropriately - think DBZ-transformations, for instance.
I am playing a Undead Warlock / Divine Soul Sorcerer - with Undead features reflavored to work with the Raven Queen - and spend my first turn using Bless and Form of Dread. Bless in this case is flavored as sharing a special "Raven Vision", which helps seeing the weakpoints of enemies, when I invoke the power of the Raven Queen by transforming with Form of Dread.
War + Nature deity: I'd go with Gallic deities - Cernunnos, Lugh, Taranis, Toutatis all kinda fit the theme.
Hey, Colby! This was an interesting build, and I may incorporate some ideas for my forge cleric. Regarding the live play, congrats on the staff…. But I wonder if you were to home brew an item, what would be the features of the Staff of Aneria? Just curious. Thanks for everything!
Any suggestions for a Paladin subclass other than Oath of the Ancients?
Edit: How rude of me. Love the concept Critlander! Looking forward to your next pathfinder build.
I’m a bit late to support the Kickstarter, but can I still get the Kibbles Compendium? Sounds like an awesome inclusion to my D&D library!
You were right the first time when you said "add -5". If you subtract -5, that becomes a positive, and now you have a +5. Yay, math.
I agree that going paladin feels more like a "war priest". If you went more fighter, it'd arguably be more of a "templar" instead.
Fun fact: Pathfinder 1e has a warpriest class. It's a hybrid of the cleric and fighter, and has paladin utility.
Colby needs a recording deal at this point. Too great of a voice to be ignored for this long.
Appreciate the Counting Crows name drop. So many people don't even know them. They're a really good band, and I'm glad I have their albums and got to see them in concert.
I wonder if the military base had scheduled some maneuver training that day. We have that here too. Less so during the freezing winter though.
Hey, I’m trying to create an Arcane Trickster for a little one shot that might turn into a character for a campaign. I was thinking of a Mark of Shadow Elf for that and maaaaaybe multiclass into fighter but at least till mid levels I’d rather just stick to Rogue for the casting progression, Uncanny Dodge, Evasion and Sneak Attack scaling as well. Have you done any videos on Arcane Trickster? I tried looking it up but I couldn’t find it, if you haven’t, I’d love to see one! (Love your videos by the way!)
Video idea: druid and monk. When you wildshape, you make weaponles attacks, and your ac is higher, because of armourless defence. I got this from DnD-Schorts, Im sure you will make a great build out of this.
You might want to look at real-world mythology if you're looking for a war + nature deity. There are a couple of Slavic gods that fit the bill (Jarovit is a god of vegetation, fertility and Spring who is also associated with war and the harvest, and Svetovid is a god of war, fertility and abundance, among others) and the Celts ... well, nearly every Celtic god seems to be associated with war and nature in some way, but the standouts would include Bellona (goddess of horses), Anann (an Irish goddess associated with war, death, cattle and fertility among other aspects), Herne the master of the Wild Hunt, or even the Morrigan, who is associated with crows and ravens ... though those last two are a bit of a stretch.
There's even Dionysus/Bacchus from Greek and Roman myth. Again it's a bit of a stretch since he's not a war god per se, but the violence of his followers, the Meanads, is literally legendary ...
Anyway, just a few ideas for inspiration ...
9:00 - 9:14 I don't know much about dnd and Pathfinder settings and their gods, but Mars (of Roman war god fame) is a god of not just war but also agriculture. There's also Satet in ancient Egyptian mythology, a war goddess who was also a goddess of hunting and fertility, and personified the Nile's annual flooding (important for agriculture). And Perun is a Slavic god of a whole bunch of things including weather-related things and war and oak trees. And Yahweh way back in the ancient Levant was pretty much a god of war and weather before all the henotheism and eventual monotheism.
As for straight up "war and nature" gods, it's hard to find many gods that are about "nature" as a whole on its own, let alone that and war. Nature tends to be deified as a lot of separate (sometimes overlapping) things, some of which are better filled by other domains like Light (sun) or Tempest (Perun, Yahweh, other sky and weather gods, I'd say even some adjacent ones like Poseidon with his sea and earthquakes). The 5e Nature Cleric kinda leans more to the "the forest and the animals in it" thing that Silvanus and Artemis* would embody (but neither of them are war gods), but you could argue that agriculture also goes in that, in which case Mars and Satet would fit the Nature and War domains.
*Nature is even listed as one of the things she's the goddess of
P.S. We still get to make up our own, that's part of the fun ;) (and I tend to not bring real-world religions into my dnd worlds except as inspiration, filing off the serial numbers and all that)
Did you change the name of your last video? Anyway. Cogratulations for binary 10000000th episode!
I have a similar concept but with a heavier focus on spells and only occasional melee big hits. Start with an protector aasimar Divine Soul Sorcerer 1 (Con save plus shield, feather fall and healing word for support/tank duties) then Paladin 2 to gain fighting style and divine smite, then War Cleric to finally gain heavy armour proficiency. This character wants to be an angel and doesn't like to get his hands dirty in melee, but when he does he can choose the +10 to (guarantee???) hit and then pile on a massive smite as he's got pretty good spell slots availability. Not as optimal as your build I'm sure but definitely in my list of future characters. If only I had enough games to play all the characters I want!
An idea for a future build: the "voodoo child", a character built around a combination between the phantom rogue and the college of spirits bard. I don't know what it can become (sustained DPR, nova damage, tank, support...) but the image of a fortune teller / card reader / voodoo practitioner is pretty awesome in my opinion
why am i invisioning a "Iron Hammer" type vibe from this build ..... Iron Hammer is a marvel mess between Thor and Iron Man, aweesome concept. wields a rather large hammer.
"... and then use a quarterstaff and a shield all the time instead of pulling a big maul in your nova round"...
What about a big ass wooden mallet xD? That's shillellag approved.
I FEEL LIKE WE HAVENT SEEN YOU IN FOREVER! 2 weeks was forever.
Love your videos Colby!
Question?
Did you consider the action economy of equipping and unequipping a shield?
More reasons to love the 3 action system in PF2E :P
Can anyone here recommend an Build/Video that would work as a mage hunter character concept? A character specializing in silencing or counterspelling (Ironic I know) spell casters, dispelling magic, and being able to put pressure on the spell caster either from a range or melee. I have no preferance since I want to gather inspiration from multiple sources either way and I am a bit lacking in general DND knowlage so learning new things is nice. The spellbreaker from Warcraft 3 was my inspiration to learn more about this type of build fyi. Thank you in advance!
You really don't need to go "dark" to justify that level in fighter. Seems consistent with the concept. Like, maybe every war cleric should do this? I'm sure it is out there somewhere on the interwebs, but what about a ranged war cleric, maybe working for Apollo or Artemis?
Can't help but notice the slight intro change. Welcome to D4 (not D4: DnD Deep Dive, but D4). Subtle shift away from DnD
Good vid and I watched it all ... what I really want to see is the SAME WAR PRIEST in PF2 - please! I am planning to play one and need your help exactly on that. Will be so cool to compare the two systems on this character.
Hey everybody I am playing a new campaign and made a Hexblade archer and I have this idea thematically to multi class into twilight domain cleric. 🤷♂️ I’m pretty new so I don’t know how strong it could actually be but it sounds really fun to me. Do you guys think there is a way to make it optimized and keep up with any other kind of archer build. I’m sure it might lack a little oomph as other archery builds but you get some more support options.
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My favorite war cleric start with 5 levels of ranger and then just go all the rest of the way cleric. It is a pretty good mix of sustained damage, burst damage and support.
For melee builds I prefer death clerics, and probably start with 6 levels of eldritch knight for shield and absorb elements because we are going frontline.
Hey Colby to let you know. I've been thinking of building this kind of a character. I've also wanted to ask if I may? I also had an idea about another character that is not as B.A. as this build, but does if his friends are hurt. In my idea he suedo hulks out to be a leonin style character. BTW he is in my solo game a tabaxi that is of timid nature. Has two female friends that is a tiefling monk, and barbarian half-orc. What would you possibly suggest if anything. Thanks in advance