I appreciate that you keep updating your tier lists to help the new players out! Its good for us established bpapers too to keep track of the meta as its always evolving.
I really appreciate your time and trial and error in composing these videos. I found you on Google and you have changed how I play. Still not very good at dueling but I am top 5 in siege most rounds! Thanks, man.
My problem with healing archers are that one use of the healing ability will deplete my ammo by 75%, so i basically have to stand on a supply for them to be usefull
I asctually agree with your list. I unlocked and played Zweihanders after the new doctrine and the buffs they got and they are one of my favourite tier 5 units. The key is small engagements. You can wipe a full stack of men at arms, you can wipe heroes and you are almost certain to kill the hero by accident. They are kind of similiar to Orochi with how they both blow up heroes but Zweihaders are more undpredictible because of the multiple strikes they do. Maybe Tyranny could be lower because Outriders are good and annoying but Raiders are OK and Shenji you can just unlock from the unit tree. Historically, Season 5 has been the one which has made the most comebacks. Paladins were meta for like 5 seasons straingth, Stalwarts have been in and out of meta but they came back into the meta just a few seasons ago. Then they had a nerf and ISG came on with buffs and mastery. Zykallians are still good and Flameboys are essential for TW. If Season 5's purple units were as good as they once were this would be the best season. Season 4 is in a simialr boat to season 5 because it has timeless units that have always been useful and even meta. Pavisse have come back somewhat. Falcos in TW are essential and on some maps they can be a real pain in random sieges. Fortes are still a good unit. In some situations they are better than IPG and on par with Modao, althour Modao are overall better. Finally, I am hoping this season's units become good, especially the tier 5, because I love infantry units and Shields and/or sword units so I am loving the idea behind the Royal guard and the Queens's guard.
Thanks bro. I havent played since season 2/3 and im so overwhelmed with that Kind of Units.. i Love playing Matches but there are too many Units.. i Just dont know what to unlock and how to make a great Army.. or which weapon is how to Play best.. (was Mace nodachi).. and wtf IS this overworld.. nice that i found U. I will watch all TH-cam vids😊
Is it just me or have the Greyhairs had their 1st ability tweaked a little bit? Before upon activating it the unit would prioritise getting into formation before resuming attacking. Now it looks like only shield row focused purely on forming up, while sword and pike rows do quick attacks as they move into position. Seemingly small change (if it is indeed in place, haven't found any mention of it so far), but I find them much more survivable nowadays.
Yeah I thought the same last time I played them, wasn't expecting much but they actually did pretty well. That was surprising as a few months before they felt terrible.
I believe they got patched last season at some point, there charge now activates last stand for 5 seconds as well. CB needs a better way of displaying this info, I am not sure how normal players are supposed to keep up with the changes as it's buried in the patch notes and no where else.
Sucks returning to this game after several seasons to find your top warband was nerfed. Only played for like a month on and off but I paid to max VG’s/shield-maidens/houndsmen/khesigs, which were strong back wen I started
Season 4, the Azap season, is fairly good for new players since it also the Wages of War and Songs of Battle challenges that function like unit challenges but reward schematics and signacula to unlock tech tree units. Also 2 Expansion Permits which could be huge for free2play users. But yeah sadly the units really aren't worth getting. While Jannies are a decent t3 short ranged unit, Rat Marksmen are just too overpowered to not use them instead - and Azaps are fun but definitely not a must have, even tho good players can win surprisingly many 1v1 match-ups with them.
I just finished my first season and your guide for weapons really helped me. I mastered long sword and was able 1vs5 stay alive (we was out of troops). Also fall in love with imperial spear guards and was looking for similiar units. Can someone give suggestions what should i try to unlock?
Could you please tell me why is it worth to master Men-at-Arms over Paladins? In which way they are better? Im newbie with 40hrs played and everybody is saying paladins are rly good. I main poleaxe/heavy armor. Thanks!
hey dude, well Men at arms has mastery now that makes them a beast, were paladin, have just been overshadowed and have fallen off! so yeah dont bother with Paladins
I do think season 6 should be at least B tier but its A tier for me. Landsknecht have a CC ability at the end of their charge which allows you to pull them back and cycle charge them. And the Armigers are an amazingly fast cavalry that tend to actually stick together as a group instead of spreading out like the other lancer cavalry have a tendency to do. But sadly the liaos have fallen off alot
Can you do a video with shieldmaidens, pike militia, or rattan pikemen with full mastery? I dont think a lot of people get how strong pike militia or rattan pikemen are when fully mastered.
New T5 is immune to debuff. They are better than not bringing units but you depend on your teams support and their skill. That makes them almost useless these days. Depending on team mates should be okay but in this game it's the worst mistake one can make. They all play for themselves and run away unless its 10:1 for them. Won't tale 4v5 even if better units on 4 player side. Will never react to flanking attacks instead use the opportunity to either pull out or watch and move in after flank is wiped etc.
It says on the CB site that you can get barracks expansion packs from quests, loot, and events yet I have been stuck at 20 slots for forever. Is the only feasible way to expand your barracks without waiting forever just buying sovereigns?
@@ppedrosilva I know that, but I'm talking more for general units in which case you're basically looking for a season where you don't want any of the units, but you're going to do the grind to unlock them all just to delete them and have 3 extra slots for actual useful units.
Also, it makes blue locks suck hard because I'm stuck to one very basic playstyle since I'm not about to delete maxed T4 and T5 units to make space for an effective blue or green.
@@liamengram6326 single barracs expansion is realy rare. You can get some from grind (some seasons might give you 1 on missions), but besides that, only with real money. I got almost 6k hours played and i got 70 slots (indluding half 70/ of season units)
forte and many other units fell of bcuz the stupid devs made those genious "reworks"- fortes can now spin around in theyre formation, which ruined them completley. For one- The spin is soooo slow, you dont have time to react to flanking cav. And the biggest issue with it is the fact that they all turn around to stab a serf while some unit/ hero charges them from back. Also a shame that azaps are completley useless. Back in season 4, they where the best anti forte/condo counter, now counterstrike is bugged and doesnt work at all. A great rework for them would be: Counterstrike adds infinite block for X seconds and on watch does much more DMG.
Bruh, you have no clue wtf you are talking about. Forte was top tier infantry for 3 seasons straight after getting their turning buff, and even after their recent nerf they can still kill a lot of current meta units. All you have to do is put them in F1 formation and watch them slap. Flanking cavs would die to F1 forte and heroes can't do shit to a formation that large without dying, not to mention those are player's skill issues to begin with. Sometimes you don't even have to brace, move them in F1 formation and just hit V.
Yea, ofc you play them in F1/F2, F3 sucks. This is just my opinion on them, the turning doesnt work for me at all, so i rather choose a different anti cav then fortes- imp pikes or top line modao. Thats all im saying @@kaleidoscope3234
@@kaleidoscope3234 yea, i agree with these points. WIthout turning fortes, just a side flank from t2 units made it difficult to defend but once we got 'turning', they were meta for many season. So, WHY DID THEY FALL OFF? The reason is "Anti-CC" FAST Units. 1. Yolo Cav: FKin fast and cuts corners & slaps with ease. Has Anti-cc when atking (the most BS cav ever) 2. Zweihander: Their anti cc atks after landing hits in large mobs easily puts them close to Fortes and ez slaps. 3. Orochi: their charge atk has anti-cc so F3 fortes are useless to them as their 2nd stab with 100% reach the fortes then 2nd ability easily staggers them. then heroes clean it up. 4. Shield charges: MAA, paladins, palace guards have block when charging so they reach melee range with fortes without stagger. Tbh, this should have been the only counter for fortes. Others counters are just BS. These make F3 fortes rarely useful. F1 fortes do better to make mine fields for Cav but overall they have fell.
The best season at least for me is sengoku.i just love onna musha haha they the best. New season is meh weird.Some older seasons are pretty cool to some units i love em.But they soo hard to farm.takes a lot of time sadly
season 5 always worth it cocos and sipho are never outdated imo at least A why you put B edit: now I think that I rated them as CBL player so yeah I didnt think that new players dont know how to play them good
Houndsmen are great as cav counter bur only for 1 maybe two charges then hounds are dead. Onna Musha is not that good for newbies anymore with broken MAA. Need to be really careful when to engage. Kroegsbruders will get way more kills any time you do side charges you would use onna musha in. Zweihanders are the unit to counter annoying broken units as long as you got shields and there isn't 5 rattan crossbows shooting at them. Orochi are good but only if you are second to engage if you go in against MAA they just block, nothing dies cooldown is long and they get wiped. If block is already low enough they can keep thrusting everything to death. On most other units i 100% agree. 5 man party with 4 Claymore and 1 Bagpipes will counter slow debuff if played properly, still not worth compared to lets say 1 ISG 1 IPG and 3 MAA...
Tier lists help returning players find out what’s good atm last I played berserkers was the nuts and fortis and DB was a good class coming back to find DB is nothing more then a annoying scout now was really disappointing chain dart so much more then db now
I say it a lot, but original release forty amazing anything that they touch instant delete no one got close. I took a long break came back and knew nothing of the nerfs and well forty were a shadow of their former self so sad. I like the healing archers, but support points mean nothing when cb keeps wantkng me to get troop kill score or high grade
berks and shieldmaidens over armigers and liaos? armigers are basically t4 hussars and Liaos beat the shit out of shieldmaidens so imo S6 B tier S7 C tier
Chinese season was S for quite long. They became too toxic i.e YOLO cav. They are still toxic tbh. 3-5 stacks of yolo cav dominates most match in ranked. I was in defense and 3 stack of yolo came directly on supply point lol. Even when we had pike units, it was useless against tanky cavs.
@@rikrishshrestha5421 I only count those who retain S out of their season because everyone was mega OP on their release so they could sell. The real test is whether they are still S after their season. Yolo is still strong but nowhere as unstoppable as when they were in their season. Monk and that fire pike useless now.
I appreciate that you keep updating your tier lists to help the new players out! Its good for us established bpapers too to keep track of the meta as its always evolving.
yip its super helpful, i am a pl;ayer of two days
I know two big reasons why the Sengoku season got S tier
He is wibu
trol
I really appreciate your time and trial and error in composing these videos. I found you on Google and you have changed how I play. Still not very good at dueling but I am top 5 in siege most rounds! Thanks, man.
My problem with healing archers are that one use of the healing ability will deplete my ammo by 75%, so i basically have to stand on a supply for them to be usefull
Yeah I will agree with you there I much preferred them when you had 4 or 5 vollys of healing arrows
You have to cancel the ability after they shot 5-7 healing arrows, you´ll get more shots out of them with the same amount of healing per volley.
@@wolfianius6037 oh okay thanks 👌
Did they change that? I spammed all my range and ammo doctrines on them and they used to be able to heal pretty well.
Good content man. Really helpful for new players. Keep it up !
I asctually agree with your list. I unlocked and played Zweihanders after the new doctrine and the buffs they got and they are one of my favourite tier 5 units. The key is small engagements. You can wipe a full stack of men at arms, you can wipe heroes and you are almost certain to kill the hero by accident. They are kind of similiar to Orochi with how they both blow up heroes but Zweihaders are more undpredictible because of the multiple strikes they do.
Maybe Tyranny could be lower because Outriders are good and annoying but Raiders are OK and Shenji you can just unlock from the unit tree.
Historically, Season 5 has been the one which has made the most comebacks. Paladins were meta for like 5 seasons straingth, Stalwarts have been in and out of meta but they came back into the meta just a few seasons ago. Then they had a nerf and ISG came on with buffs and mastery. Zykallians are still good and Flameboys are essential for TW. If Season 5's purple units were as good as they once were this would be the best season.
Season 4 is in a simialr boat to season 5 because it has timeless units that have always been useful and even meta. Pavisse have come back somewhat. Falcos in TW are essential and on some maps they can be a real pain in random sieges. Fortes are still a good unit. In some situations they are better than IPG and on par with Modao, althour Modao are overall better.
Finally, I am hoping this season's units become good, especially the tier 5, because I love infantry units and Shields and/or sword units so I am loving the idea behind the Royal guard and the Queens's guard.
Thanks bro. I havent played since season 2/3 and im so overwhelmed with that Kind of Units.. i Love playing Matches but there are too many Units.. i Just dont know what to unlock and how to make a great Army.. or which weapon is how to Play best.. (was Mace nodachi).. and wtf IS this overworld.. nice that i found U. I will watch all TH-cam vids😊
Is it just me or have the Greyhairs had their 1st ability tweaked a little bit? Before upon activating it the unit would prioritise getting into formation before resuming attacking. Now it looks like only shield row focused purely on forming up, while sword and pike rows do quick attacks as they move into position. Seemingly small change (if it is indeed in place, haven't found any mention of it so far), but I find them much more survivable nowadays.
Yeah I thought the same last time I played them, wasn't expecting much but they actually did pretty well. That was surprising as a few months before they felt terrible.
I believe they got patched last season at some point, there charge now activates last stand for 5 seconds as well.
CB needs a better way of displaying this info, I am not sure how normal players are supposed to keep up with the changes as it's buried in the patch notes and no where else.
Sucks returning to this game after several seasons to find your top warband was nerfed. Only played for like a month on and off but I paid to max VG’s/shield-maidens/houndsmen/khesigs, which were strong back wen I started
Glad you quit
Season 4, the Azap season, is fairly good for new players since it also the Wages of War and Songs of Battle challenges that function like unit challenges but reward schematics and signacula to unlock tech tree units. Also 2 Expansion Permits which could be huge for free2play users. But yeah sadly the units really aren't worth getting. While Jannies are a decent t3 short ranged unit, Rat Marksmen are just too overpowered to not use them instead - and Azaps are fun but definitely not a must have, even tho good players can win surprisingly many 1v1 match-ups with them.
Amazing video. Thank bro😊
good breakdown - thanks
I just finished my first season and your guide for weapons really helped me. I mastered long sword and was able 1vs5 stay alive (we was out of troops). Also fall in love with imperial spear guards and was looking for similiar units. Can someone give suggestions what should i try to unlock?
Could you please tell me why is it worth to master Men-at-Arms over Paladins? In which way they are better? Im newbie with 40hrs played and everybody is saying paladins are rly good. I main poleaxe/heavy armor. Thanks!
hey dude, well Men at arms has mastery now that makes them a beast, were paladin, have just been overshadowed and have fallen off! so yeah dont bother with Paladins
Thanks a lot! Its nice that they are 1st unit you unlock in Paladin challenge. Ill stick to them. Love your content
@@Plumsion
I do think season 6 should be at least B tier but its A tier for me. Landsknecht have a CC ability at the end of their charge which allows you to pull them back and cycle charge them. And the Armigers are an amazingly fast cavalry that tend to actually stick together as a group instead of spreading out like the other lancer cavalry have a tendency to do. But sadly the liaos have fallen off alot
very touchable as always
Banner guards are useful on tournamments
but not really in siege/ranked or even tw
Can you do a video with shieldmaidens, pike militia, or rattan pikemen with full mastery? I dont think a lot of people get how strong pike militia or rattan pikemen are when fully mastered.
Done rattan pikes fully mastery already, I've got a few in the pipe line
New T5 is immune to debuff. They are better than not bringing units but you depend on your teams support and their skill. That makes them almost useless these days. Depending on team mates should be okay but in this game it's the worst mistake one can make. They all play for themselves and run away unless its 10:1 for them. Won't tale 4v5 even if better units on 4 player side.
Will never react to flanking attacks instead use the opportunity to either pull out or watch and move in after flank is wiped etc.
I don't know how good are the lancelot knight, I haved them, but their playstyle are a lot different from conventional swords and shield unit
hi, did you plan make video about this green toxin pike ? or it is somewhere on chanel? i can't find
th-cam.com/video/oJV73mtnwRI/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Tpk7izKtbEkrEYd4
thx man ;3@@Plumsion
how about
Palace Guards ?
Imperial Pike Guards ?
Imperial Spear Guards ?
Iron Reapers ?
Video is on seasonal units
I played modao last week in ranked and rhey are SO nice against cav. I have all their doctrines against cav and I’ve had far more success.
finally we played together in CB :)
Good video
It says on the CB site that you can get barracks expansion packs from quests, loot, and events yet I have been stuck at 20 slots for forever. Is the only feasible way to expand your barracks without waiting forever just buying sovereigns?
Each seasinal unit comes with one expansion integrated.
@@ppedrosilva I know that, but I'm talking more for general units in which case you're basically looking for a season where you don't want any of the units, but you're going to do the grind to unlock them all just to delete them and have 3 extra slots for actual useful units.
Also, it makes blue locks suck hard because I'm stuck to one very basic playstyle since I'm not about to delete maxed T4 and T5 units to make space for an effective blue or green.
@@liamengram6326 single barracs expansion is realy rare. You can get some from grind (some seasons might give you 1 on missions), but besides that, only with real money. I got almost 6k hours played and i got 70 slots (indluding half 70/ of season units)
Buy from the merchant or mercenary or the black shop, illegal smuggler. Whatever he is, he sells those for a lot of silver
forte and many other units fell of bcuz the stupid devs made those genious "reworks"- fortes can now spin around in theyre formation, which ruined them completley. For one- The spin is soooo slow, you dont have time to react to flanking cav. And the biggest issue with it is the fact that they all turn around to stab a serf while some unit/ hero charges them from back. Also a shame that azaps are completley useless. Back in season 4, they where the best anti forte/condo counter, now counterstrike is bugged and doesnt work at all. A great rework for them would be: Counterstrike adds infinite block for X seconds and on watch does much more DMG.
Bruh, you have no clue wtf you are talking about. Forte was top tier infantry for 3 seasons straight after getting their turning buff, and even after their recent nerf they can still kill a lot of current meta units. All you have to do is put them in F1 formation and watch them slap. Flanking cavs would die to F1 forte and heroes can't do shit to a formation that large without dying, not to mention those are player's skill issues to begin with. Sometimes you don't even have to brace, move them in F1 formation and just hit V.
Yea, ofc you play them in F1/F2, F3 sucks. This is just my opinion on them, the turning doesnt work for me at all, so i rather choose a different anti cav then fortes- imp pikes or top line modao. Thats all im saying @@kaleidoscope3234
@@kaleidoscope3234 yea, i agree with these points. WIthout turning fortes, just a side flank from t2 units made it difficult to defend but once we got 'turning', they were meta for many season.
So, WHY DID THEY FALL OFF? The reason is "Anti-CC" FAST Units.
1. Yolo Cav: FKin fast and cuts corners & slaps with ease. Has Anti-cc when atking (the most BS cav ever)
2. Zweihander: Their anti cc atks after landing hits in large mobs easily puts them close to Fortes and ez slaps.
3. Orochi: their charge atk has anti-cc so F3 fortes are useless to them as their 2nd stab with 100% reach the fortes then 2nd ability easily staggers them. then heroes clean it up.
4. Shield charges: MAA, paladins, palace guards have block when charging so they reach melee range with fortes without stagger. Tbh, this should have been the only counter for fortes. Others counters are just BS.
These make F3 fortes rarely useful. F1 fortes do better to make mine fields for Cav but overall they have fell.
How many hours a day do you play CB? Tryna estimate the grind
Depends on work but Around 2 hour,
The best season at least for me is sengoku.i just love onna musha haha they the best. New season is meh weird.Some older seasons are pretty cool to some units i love em.But they soo hard to farm.takes a lot of time sadly
season 5 always worth it
cocos and sipho are never outdated
imo at least A
why you put B
edit: now I think that I rated them as CBL player so yeah
I didnt think that new players dont know how to play them good
which vet line is used for blue halbadiers?
down
Houndsmen are great as cav counter bur only for 1 maybe two charges then hounds are dead.
Onna Musha is not that good for newbies anymore with broken MAA. Need to be really careful when to engage.
Kroegsbruders will get way more kills any time you do side charges you would use onna musha in.
Zweihanders are the unit to counter annoying broken units as long as you got shields and there isn't 5 rattan crossbows shooting at them.
Orochi are good but only if you are second to engage if you go in against MAA they just block, nothing dies cooldown is long and they get wiped. If block is already low enough they can keep thrusting everything to death. On most other units i 100% agree.
5 man party with 4 Claymore and 1 Bagpipes will counter slow debuff if played properly, still not worth compared to lets say 1 ISG 1 IPG and 3 MAA...
Newb question... what is TW?
Territory war
Mr Plum!
Tier lists help returning players find out what’s good atm last I played berserkers was the nuts and fortis and DB was a good class coming back to find DB is nothing more then a annoying scout now was really disappointing chain dart so much more then db now
I say it a lot, but original release forty amazing anything that they touch instant delete no one got close. I took a long break came back and knew nothing of the nerfs and well forty were a shadow of their former self so sad. I like the healing archers, but support points mean nothing when cb keeps wantkng me to get troop kill score or high grade
Lmao forte were literally meta for the last 3 seasons. You complaining because they are not braindead units anymore?
@@kaleidoscope3234 Halb Sergeants > Fortes these days
berks and shieldmaidens over armigers and liaos?
armigers are basically t4 hussars and Liaos beat the shit out of shieldmaidens
so imo S6 B tier S7 C tier
don't know why tyranny is A season, i hate axe raiders and outriders unit, if i can rate it i'll rate it "F" for sure, hate that season the most
hm, the only S is the japanese, in a chinese game lol, not even the chinese get an S.
Chinese season was S for quite long. They became too toxic i.e YOLO cav. They are still toxic tbh. 3-5 stacks of yolo cav dominates most match in ranked. I was in defense and 3 stack of yolo came directly on supply point lol. Even when we had pike units, it was useless against tanky cavs.
@@rikrishshrestha5421 I only count those who retain S out of their season because everyone was mega OP on their release so they could sell. The real test is whether they are still S after their season. Yolo is still strong but nowhere as unstoppable as when they were in their season. Monk and that fire pike useless now.
Honestly every season is just about the same
I thought the "Rating all seasons!" was about how good those seasons were, not how good the troops are in this season.