Timestamps Introduction - 0:00 What is the Quran? - 6:13 The topics that will be covered in this session - 9:17 Why the claim that the Quran is orally preserved is not far-fetched - 12:55 Analysis of The 'Oldest' Quran which was found in Birmingham - 21:14 Reading from the 'Oldest' Quran - 28:58 Invitation to read Quran Manuscripts - 46:44 Analysis of Dr. Joseph Lumbard's video regarding the preservation of The Quran - 50:23 Why are there different dialects of reading The Quran - 55:57 Compilation of the Quran - 58:45 Criticism of Christian missionaries and the purpose of The Compilation - 1:05:50 Reading the quotes of Western Orientalists regarding the preservation of The Quran - 1:29:10 Analysis of Dr. Yasir Qadhi`s video regarding the Quran - 1:42:03 Conclusion - 2:20:39 Remember me in your Duas
Alhamdulillah I can see the exact similarity with my Qur'an. This, indeed solidifies my belief in Islam. May Allah reward you trillion folds brother Adnan.
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now! For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget. th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html ( TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!) You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP! You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!! Hallelujah!!!
@@godsaveskyrieeleison5859 l think you are not alright.you ask a good Muslim like Adnan to become Christian,it's something not easy to DO even for a non practicing muslim.
@@MohammadQasim lol it's all the human works and ideas of man. God would not be as narcissistic as Allah. It's obvious to any sane reader that Muhammad uses Allah as a sock puppet to manipulate people to get his way. The Quran is one giant wishlist of stupidity for the sake of Muhammad. Only a delusional personer doesn't see this and the devil loves to delude people. We know this from the Bible.
Thank you so much. I feel like my life got rejuvenated. I was dying every day after listening to Yasir Qadhi's statements and it was killing me. I was having a really hard time dealing with and I couldn't find anyone who clarified what Dr. Qadhi meant. I thank Allah for this. I got my peace back. May Allah reward you guys!
@@khalidbinwalid4252 good brother. May Allah bless you. Also check out, shaykh uthman ( one message foundation, masjid ribat), al madrasatul ummariyah, mufti menk etc
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now! For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget. th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html ( TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!) You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP! You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!! Hallelujah!!!
@@godsaveskyrieeleison5859 I truly am sorry for ppl like you, honestly... I wonder what it must feel like to have so much hate stored in your heart that it blinds your mind and soul
What was sent? Muhammad did not receive any Quran (book). It required Uthman and others to make war to have a Quran. :D How can it be sent down when Muhammad himself was quoted as the verse is invented by him? :D
I thank Allah for the critics who implicitly pursuade Adnan and Imran to share this beautiful knowledge, which results in the strengthening of our faith and brings more people to Islam. In sha Allah. Al hamdulillah
37 different arabic qurans You liars don’t really get the point. He was referencing how the modern qur’an is exactly the same as the 1st century qur’an manuscripts. Yes, the first few pages are missing in that manuscript but that does not disprove the authenticity of al fatiha and few verses of baqarah. What about the other manuscripts? And that is why we have the oral tradition of memorizing the qur’an so it can complement the written text and vice versa.
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now! For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget. th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html ( TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!) You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP! You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!! Hallelujah!!!
I started crying when I first saw the original manuscript. SubhanAllah, it was surreal to see an evidence as strong as that ☺️. Alhamdullilah, I suggest to myself and everyone else to start memorizing and implement the Quran to the best we can, beIzniAllah Tala!
@David Zia, *Sorry, but you don't have an original manuscript.* *It's the "Kufic" script which is dated in the 8th. and 9th. century, which would be the 2nd. and 3rd. century in Islam.* *NOT THE 1ST. CENTURY!* *That was a deliberate lie by Adnan.* *So now western Ph.D Islamic Scholars can't be trusted?* *LOL!* *Who is Adnan trying to shit?* *The quran has rat holes in the narrative.* *Just like the Christian missionaries have been saying at Speakers Corner for at least the past four years.* *This is going to be fun to see western Islamic scholars exposing you people!* *The lies 🤥and deception of "Team Dawah" is OVER!* *Get ready Ali Dawah, Adnan Rashid, and Mohammad Hijab....an army of Christian missionaries will be seeing you at Speakers Corner soon!* 💂🏽♂️✝💂🏽♂️✝💂🏽♂️✝
@Haidar Ibn Akhlaq *That's a LIE!* 😁 *I feel sorry for you guys being exposed like this.* *But, this deception game is over.* *The fall-out has just begun.*
@Haidar Ibn Akhlaq *Not only that, but anyone can read stories in the quran and identify their earlier historical counterpart.* *Meaning, the quran is a plagiarized book.* *This is provable.* *What was allah doing copying heretical Gnostic texts (for example) on heavenly tablets?*
Adnan bhai u made everything crystal clear May Allah bless u immensely...I was so much confused that I had to msg u MashAllah u responded to this adnaa Musalmaan from a small city from India 🇮🇳 what a nice person u are and above that a true Muslim on the day of judgement I will bear witness how much u had helped me to stay on Islam ☪️ firmly
Yasir Qadhi made a VAGUE statement which he clarified on FB. If The Quran has not been preserved and has been changed over the years, then the eloquence, the divinity and deep meaning of the Quran etc. would not remain. So I challenge you with the challenge of the Quran. Produce just ONE chapter like the Quran, Just ONE. You don't need to produce 114 chapters just ONE.
@@Anonymous-sq6eo hmm... No it hasn't. Compare the deep meaning inside Shakespeare's poetry and the Quran. Compare the length of commentary on both, just on one or two verses. Let's take this one video out of the many: th-cam.com/video/Njuq145ESzk/w-d-xo.html 2 hours to explain the deep meaning. Furthermore, the extent to which you are right, however, is limited and does not threaten the miracle of the Quran. While Shakespeare and Dickens can never be matched "at their own game" in terms of surpassing them in their own literary style, the fact is that Shakespeare and Dickens did not accurately and adequately explain the deepest mysteries of metaphysics and ethics while simultaneously maintaining the highest standard of literary excellence. Here the analogy breaks down, so I really don't think this takes anything away from the Quaranic miracle.
2 x Is all you have debunked internet stuff? Is that seriously the level of your scholarship? If only people like you would recycle plastic the same frequency you recycle arguments the planet would be in a much better state. Go look up the answers I am not going to bother posting a response
Psalm 1 1 Blessed is the one who does not walk in step with the wicked or stand in the way that sinners take or sit in the company of mockers, 2 but whose delight is in the law of the Lord, and who meditates on his law day and night. 3 That person is like a tree planted by streams of water, which yields its fruit in season and whose leaf does not wither- whatever they do prospers. 4 Not so the wicked! They are like chaff that the wind blows away. 5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment, nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous. 6 For the Lord watches over the way of the righteous, but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.
Salam, your immediate step to discuss this hot topic (because of the brother YQ and brother Mohammad Hijab) is very timely for a lot of us common people. Alhamdulillah, this was needed and gives us a big sigh of relief. Not that we got confused about the holy Quran but it made us what we should do with this type of understanding of some western dayees who are unfortunately busy with satisfying the non-muslim!
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now! For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget. th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html ( TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!) You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP! You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!! Hallelujah!!!
Oktalz Jesus is Lord 😂😂😂😂😂 The Quran conforms your sheepishness when it says, “Dead, Dumb and Blind they will not return”. And also, “He has put a seal on their hearts and their hearing and their sight and they comprehend not”. You are Mr. oktalz... EVEN when the truth STARES you in the face you STILL choose to overlook it or ignore it. There are NO DIFFENCES IN THE TEXT, but you wanna make a hash out of it and the fact that you use That idiot preacher Jay really just confirms my suspicions. A dude who has been refuted a million times yet still chooses to spend all his time trying to refute Islam!! 😂You ignoramus’ really are pathetic...
It's a stupidity for Muslims to let Wersten scholars who don't even believe in God, to approve our Quran for us when we have our own scholars in the East. Adnan Rashid has made my day for this beautiful explanation. May Allah bless you for this great work that you guys have done.
Your own scholars lie to you.Listen to Yasir Qadhi. when he says some things shouldnt be public.Western scholars dont lie.They dont care if you are muslim,Christian or whatever.They only search the truth.They dontv have red lines.But I understand you prefer to hide your head in the sand and live a lie.It is hard to see you world crumbling down.
Revolutionary Man don’t you Muslim listen to Bart Erthman because it fits your narrative? He speaks freely and it is what is expected in the western world ,in your backward world scholars are expected to stay quiet,so this is important when one of them accidentally let something reveals the truth
So in laymen terms Yasir Qadhi was not talking from a foundational perspective regarding the preservation of the Quran (i.e the physical copy ) nor disputing the fact that the variant readings were indeed divinely revealed by Allah but just talking about already known open questions regarding branch topics which have no bearing on the preserved physical copy and it's consonantal skeleton (basically the letters without diacritical marks) whatsoever, namely what is the exact relation between the Qira'at and the Ahruf ?
yes. The original quran does not have vowel marks fathah, dummah, kasrah of any form or Shaddah and madd for the length stretches in qiraat to prolong the vowels. Honestly I don't find this all that confusing, its like people from various countries pronounce "potato" differently. But since this is ancient Arabic which is highly nuanced language and certain pronunciations can change meaning more caution is required.
Yassir qhadi was talking about how the quran is the unadultrated word of God if what we have today would have been a result of peoples regional arabic who pronounce things differently. Yassir qhadi therefor is insinuating that thr quran is preserved only in meaning and dilectically (damma, kassra) as these were later introduced. His calim is not regarding the relationship between haruf and qiraat st all. Im afraid that if yassir qhadi explaind hos position( i.e. why he belives quran is only preseved in meaning) he will not only misguide missionaries but also muslims.
An Silves .... I don’t understand why you would take valuable time out of your day to come on this video and post lies which the video itself busts wide open... how about Actually reading the Qurans translation and learning something?
For anyone struggling with this subject i would reccoment 'an approach to understanding Quranic sciencces" by mufti Taqi Usmani, it's in the english language and quite easy to understand
Allah told us this is the final testament and that he'd protect it. This is a living miracle until the day of judgement proving Islam is the final truth. Amazing subhanallah!!
Amazing amazing amazing may allah reward all of you surat taha is almost the only long surah i have memorised it got it all allahu akbar allahu akbar allahu akbar
SubhanAllah. This completely and comprehensively covers the question of preservation. May Allah reward you brother Adnan Rashid for your work, and brother Imran Hussein for this interview/discussion.
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now! For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget. th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html ( TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!) You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP! You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!! Hallelujah!!!
I'd like to add that Yasir Qadhi was the same person who gave us the Zombie Yajooj and Majooj theory which scholars have warned against. I'm not surprised that he made vague statements leaving people confused. Previously he even mocked scholars. | جزاك الله خيراً
Yasir Qadhi doesn't actually believe in the Zombie theory. He was saying one of the scholars he knew proposed the theory, he himself doesn't believe it. He thinks the descendants of Yajuj and Majuj may return, but he doesn't believe in any Zombies.
One of the oldest copies of Quran which is carbon dated to between 649-675, can be found on the University of Tübingen's website: idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/opendigi/MaVI165#tab=struct&p=2 This copy of Quran dates to the time of companions of the Prophet (SAW), which means that a companion of the prophet would most likely have written it. Not only that, but the text of this copy is exacly the same as the present Quran.
This video proves that the Qur'an is preserved beyond any doubt. It's like the bright sun 🌞 on a clear sky and anyone who denies this after watching this video is either ignorant jaahil or a liar who just hates Islam.
@@brianclone9583 You are wrong , his PhD was not on the preservation of the Qur'an , it was on Ibn taymiyyah's reconciliation between reason and revelation , he is not an authority on the Qur'an nor is he an expert in the sciences related to the Qur'an.
I've collected about 15 quotes from Western academics attesting to the preservation of the Qur'an alhamdulilah. Insha'allah I'll do a video/blog on this!
The only miracle about d quran is that it fools all muslims. The most obvious dubious, fake, devilish, plagiarized book/recitation of all time .Quran deserves an award for being a legitimate fraud
@Leo Abayomi this is what Christian have become. They are very furious due to the fact many of their Christian fellow have left Christianity and embraced Islam. That’s why they have to be mean toward Muslim and Islam.
Assalamu'alaykum Brother Adnan, you have done a wonderful job in defending the religion. May Allah bless you. What I would have put more emphasis on is why the burning performed by 'Uthman does not prove the Qur'an is corrupted: *Why the burning of the Qur'ans by Uthman does not prove the Qur'an is corrupted:* The very first text of the Qur'an was compiled during the caliphate of Abu Bakr shortly after the death of prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be on him). A very systematic process was taken to ensure that this text is exactly the same as the one that prophet Muhammad recited vocally. The companions of the prophet were certain that this text was made of the materials on which the verses of the Qur'an were written in the presence of the prophet. Also, they were able to recall moments in the past when the prophet vocally recited those same verses. Also, the scribe Zaid ibn Thabit would recite those verses in the presence of the prophet after writing them down on those materials, so that any mistakes can be immediately corrected by the prophet. Therefore, we have no doubt that the first compiled text of the Qur'an is accurate and without errors since it is composed of those materials. Now, if this is the very same text that the Caliph Uthman used for replicating new copies of the Qur'an after the burning that took place, how can you say that his new copies were corrupted?
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now! For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget. th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html ( TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!) You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP! You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!! Hallelujah!!!
@@haroondabbagh2869 I clearly did and you might want to add what your complaint is about. Kind of hard to work that out from such a flimsy comment. Clearly ignorant as to how to communicate.
@@hahhhh2902 Jesus is God incarnate, stop following your stupid unscientific, barbaric and historically false Quran. Quran is full of mistakes on basic facts and it can´t follow it´s own rules. God did not send the Quran or Muhammad. You follow satan. I follow Jesus Christ the holy Messiah who was and still is fully God and Fully MAN!
The only miracle about d quran is that it fools all muslims. The most obvious dubious, fake, devilish, plagiarized book/recitation of all time .Quran deserves an award for being a legitimate fraud
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah - I really hope that these doubts being cast by the non muslims leads the muslims to return to the true scholars in the muslim lands who specialise in these fields and can dismantle these doubts with ease and with the best of manners and behavior. May Allah make us from those who are pleasing to Him. Ameen
Masha Allah 3laykum! Very educational! May Allah accept it from you. Maybe Brother Yasir didn’t know what you mentioned in this video. And may Allah forgive the Muslims for our mistakes, ameen.
@UCvw5R1anIwLA2P3x57dSWNg So what are the proofs this video gave... Please clarify your statement... Half knowledge is dangerous for the modern world... But yea if Quran is perfect and no contractions in Quran then Islam is the only truth 😊😊😊 And all the divine books (bibles and hindu divine books have prophesies of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him) "The Last and Seal to the Prophethood. [From Prophet Adam to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon them all)] Do see the complete video on 1.25 speed if Lockdown also doesn't give you time... 😅 May the Lord of the Universe guide you to correct path... Aameen
Leonardo Da Vinci The Genius ... Miracle of the Quran!!!! what a bunch of stupid defense from Adnan. You should be weeping and repent from believing Islam
@@leoabayomi1697 you mean the scientific researchers and their research and error-free Quran is not enough for you to except him as Messenger of "Allah (The Father in Bible)"
Dear Rashid, Thanks for the video, you have clarified certain topics for me in the past so hopefully i can get some clarity on this topic as well. Is pre uthmani Variations/Ahruf lost after the burning or discarding ? The 40/41 opinions held by islamic scholars- are these opinions on what the variations are present day in the Quran we have now or is it the very nature of what the Ahruf is ? what the Ahruf constitutes itself ? Can the scholars pinpoint in the quran that this is part of the Ahruf variation ? Is this that what the whole debate/opinion over ? What troubles me is that if it is indeed 7 dialect for different tribes who spoke differently then why would umar ibn al khattab and Hishaam ibn Hakeem recite surah furqan differently ? Both of them were from Quraysh and Quraysh had only one dialect. If the difference in ahruf (styles/modes) had been a difference in dialects, why would two men of Quraysh have been different? Supplement questions Don’t all the 10 Qi’raat come from 1 Ahruf that Uthman standardised ? That 1 ahruf that uthman chose does it allow for some of the 7 Ahruf’s to be read from within it ? I’ve watched hijab/yasir and now watched your 2 1/2 hour video and both seem to use qi’rat and Ahraf interchangeably at some points. I hope you can answer some of these questions and provide clarity to help us all that have similar confusion.
Dear Gary, The answers to your very good questions are throughly given in this book: kitaabun.com/shopping3/history-quranic-text-from-revelation-compilation2nd-p-6157.html You must get this book to have a comprehensive understanding of this topic. Adnan.
Thanks for your response, really appreciated it, When i watched your Hadith Rejection- 2 years ago you helped me with direct references to Blackstone commentaries regarding early age marriages. Which settled a lot of doubts of mine. The book you recommended seems to be out of stock, i have googled it and wasn’t able to find a copy available. When i watch your lectures i gain a lot of knowledge but at the same time it raises questions when i feel something’s missing or there could have been a bit more clarity, regarding the Ahruf and qi’raat there is so much conflation between these two. The mix-of these 2 elements is widespread on youtube. If you have time could you tackle the questions i have asked so i can get a comprehensive understanding. If you can’t dedicate a bit of time could you bare minimum solve at least: The main questions would be What troubles me is that if it is indeed 7 dialect for different tribes who spoke differently then why would umar ibn al khattab and Hishaam ibn Hakeem recite surah furqan differently ? Both of them were from Quraysh and Quraysh had only one dialect. If the difference in ahruf (styles/modes) had been a difference in dialects, why would two men of Quraysh have been different? Sorry for the long message i don’t like loop holes, it will stay on my mind until it’s solved. Gary.
@@garyatkins3758 hi Gary, some good questions. I dont think this is a difficult question unless I'm missunderstanding here. The reason i say that is because this event has been fulky documented and the prophet himself responded to it. Hisham ra was clearly reading one of the ahruf (weather it was because he was from a different tribe or not does not matter). We know this because when Umar ra went to the prophet and he asked them both to recite it, he affirmed both and said to them both (regardless of what tribe they were in) ' Recite whatever you find easy'. I.e. whatever they had learnt. Hisham may have heard a different version first which he committed to memory (i.e. he found this easier). I hope that makes sense
We also have to understand the neuances of life. Just becsue i live in the uk, it doesnt mean i will pronounce tomato the same way as brits (i know ppl in thr uk who pronounce it like american) although we come from different 'tribes'.
@@garyatkins3758 just because this is causing so much doubt and you cannot find the book stocked, you view a pdf format if you type the following in a google search engine: History of the Qur'anic Text From Revelation to Compilation,2nd by mustafa al azami pdf
Thanks brother. I just learned the Sanaa Pamplisest actually confirms the traditional Islamic account , that there was a subtext used by an inferior scribes, then someone scratched it off wrote the uthmani codex on top of that. Within 20 years of the death of the Prophet a.s., we have the manuscript we have today.
@Quran Translation - English Only Not necessarily. Just my OPINION which is just as valid as yours. P.S. I don't do links! I am Biodegradable Bill and I APPROVE this message.
@Lol Rofl Is that your best shot? And all this time I have been told by MUSLIMS that Muhammad was DECEIVED by Shaitaan (Satan) according to the Quran! If you're going to run with the best you had better get a FAST horse. I am Biodegradable Bill and I approve this message.
@Lol Rofl LOL ROFL CLAIMS: "We don't even know who wrote the gospels and who was Jesus". BIODEGRADABLE BILL RESPONDS: What do YOU mean "WE don't know."? Who is "WE"? Do you have a MOUSE in your pocket? Perhaps YOU don't know BUT I DO KNOW.
Quran is perfect 100%. It never changed or corrupted. Allah promised to preserve it. Allah swt says in Holy Quran. Verily, Allah who revealed the Qur'an and surely he will guard it from corruption.
@@BO0O0M650 It's 100% safe down to the letter ... The researchers said 99% because of Book being different and pages also, but the letter is same 100% same down to letter 😊😊😊
Brother's Keeper I watched both videos. Dr Shabir never said that. And in the video of Dr Yasir Qadi in exactly 1:31:18 he explicitly said “I will not hide anything, the Quran is the world of God, the Quran has been preserved” Can you answer me please, is it part of your religion to spread lies and deception about other faiths and belief systems? If so, Which part of your scripture says you are allowed to use lies and deception?
@@BO0O0M650 I don't care what they say about Quran. Its their opinions. Allah preserved holy Quran and it never changed or corrupted. Quran came to correct errors in your corrupted bible. In Genesis, God says, he created the night and day on the 1st day, and he created the sun on the 3rd day. Also God created heavens and the earth in six days and the seventh day, he rested. Does God get tired and need a rest 😂😂😂 Quran (50:38) And indeed Allah who created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six Days and nothing of fatigue touched him.
@@BO0O0M650 do you want to say that Islam says : Allah went to get some rest after he created the the world? There were some Jews who said that to the prophet pbuh, he replied to them by verse 38 of Surat Qaf, is that what do you mean or what?
Verse 38 of Surat Qaf says that Allah didn't get tired after he created the world so he didn't went to rest or sth like that, where is the contradiction?
The below statement is potentially wrong. I may have gotten some parts wrong. Thought I'll let you know. I'm not a scholar "the Final Prophet recited the Noble Quran in many variants for the different tribes but all had the same meaning. For example in urban english in London the word 'sick' or 'bad' is describing something as good. I myself say 'that is a bad car' which means that is a good car. But the words in the variants weren't opposites like the exmaple I've given. It's simple."
Asalaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullah At 35:00 onwards brother Adnan recites the word الثرى with the Dhammah on the ث. In my Mushaf (which is the Mushaf of Hafs an Asem) the ث is read with a Fatha. I presume brother Adnan has the same Mushaf and so I just wanted to point this out. جزاكم الله خيرا Great efforts, keep it up. بارك الله فيكم
You are right. I made a mistake in reading. Thank you for the correction. It is الثري with فتح, not ضمة. I made a mistake in reading. JazakAllahu khairan.
Missionaries are wasting millions of dollars to spread lies against Islam. They lost their credibility. Their establishment of faith systems is failed. Only spreading lies & Paganism through their unanswered biased beleifs.
You people have nothing except bunch of lies. All Gospels contradict each other Mark, Luke were not in 12 Apostles. Matthew doesn't know Jesus told follow me. John says we know the testimony is right. Who witnessed. All writers in absent mode. All deciples were illiterate, ignorant Aramic speaking. Luke not deciple acts, Peter was illiterate fisher ignorant 2 books, James 1 book, same illiterate John 3 books and revelation, Hypocrite Paul only 7 forged letters 6 forged on forged books Hebrew unknown actually all Unknown. So what's left where is your epistemology? where is your new Covenant,
Moses written torah. How he knew that He will die at the age of 120 and he will be buried in the Valley of Mob. After seeing all this Church Industry Blunders feel very ashamed and feel unbearable pain inside. When they see Islam and Quran preservation and purity. So they hired and hiring PHD and orientalist idiots, They always debunked in scolery debates. They can make fools only their audience like Ravi Zakaria did. So only two choices be happy with biased fake faith like Ignorant and fools does Or accept the truth ASAP.
@Serve mabunda if you are truthful in scriptures you will always find slavery in Bible. If i will quote it will be article. Simple Bible promotes slavery. Even today #Blacklivesmatter we seen in USA. Our prophet & sahabas freed slaves. You can easily find in Hadiths. Your scolers will never tell and appreciate that.
The ambiguity left by YQ during the interview is just unacceptable considering his level. He should clarify the issues he stumbled during the interview. First the Yazuz-Majuj theory, now on Quran preservation, you cannot just mess up with classical view, while you do not have any reasonable "Modern" explanation either. With all due respect, I also don't understand why YQ is so obsessed with what western secular scholars are thinking and it seems YQ is trying to align the islamic matters in a way that will be less criticized by them. After watching him for so many years, it is just frustrating.
He had a previous interview with Mohammed Hijab where he clarified his stance on Yajuj and Majuj. I don't necessarily agree with him on his stance, but I wouldn't call him a deviant in this respect (not saying that you're calling him a deviant). As for his ambiguity, I think he simply didn't want to give a short answer. Even Ustad Adnan took 2 hours and 30 min to fully explain everything on the issue. The reason this became a controversy in the first place was due to another brother who you probably know leaking a private email, so there might be more to the issue.
@Atlantic Antiques I am not sure what are you talking about provided that i am in academia for more than 10 yrs with a PhD. Do your research first, instead of quoting here and there without context and proper explanation. Are you aware about the responses given by our scholars regarding your above points? Islamic scholars never shy away from these topics as brother Adnan mentioned. Don't stress on what Western "scholars" say about islam, they always pick from here and there without any context and what our scholars have commented on those. Any islamic study that does not fit with their narrative, they consider as unreliable. Our scholars have done extensive work to show how Quran was preserved, and they dealt with each of the points you have mentioned above. Just do a proper research (I have done mine). Classical Islamic scholars never had doubt on the preservation of the Quran. Yes, they differed on how the later readings relate to the Ahroof. By the way, for some, even one presents a mountain of evidence, they will be still be in denial and doubts.
@ YQ had the highest marks from Medina University among his class, and he was the first American to score so highly. You may disagree with him, but you can't deny his credentials.
Thanks to people who made the reading of el Koran easy-to-use.l would not be able to read the ancient Koran.l know that the Koran has never been modifiedوالحمد لله. But the ancient writing is difficult.
Please continue this work. Anti-Islam content is on the rise, and it's full of misleading content. We need to target the lies and misinformation one by one. I know a few people who actually get mislead by their content. Please make sure the title's of the videos are appropriate. When people have doubts over certain aspects of Islam, they should be easily able to find the video! Many Muslim brothers go for catchy titles, they've got great content but irrelevant titles. People looking for answers wouldn't be able to find them that way.
After a recent interview with Br. Muhammad Hijab, some missionaries and anti-Muslim propagandists have read their own prejudices into our very brief discussion. Some of them have twisted my words to suit their agenda. While Muslim scholarship has pioneered Quranic studies for centuries and continues to do so, the fact remains that we all agree on the demonstrably proven fact that the Quran has been preserved in its entirety, word for word, and that we believe that all of the ten recitations (qira'āt) of the Quran are revealed from Allah. To see such Islamophobes try to read in an argument that no one amongst us ever made in order to prove their incorrect narrative is only demonstrating the unethical tactics they resort to. Here is a beautiful example of this from a post from a few years ago:
Watch this serpent in action. Look at who is the compulsive, pathological and malicious liar is in this video. I'm so glad Adnan got on camera and continued to speak out of his backside cos now his very words have come back to hurt him 10 fold. Can Adnan even attempt to engage with this and his bold face lies? th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html
It would be great if you use visual means such as slides with drawings to emphasize and clarify the information you provide. This gives a clear take home message that stays in the minds of students and that is easy to understand and remember.
Maa shaa Allah, very important video but others have to be made to help address the relentless attacks on all aspects of Quranic text. I think that Shaykh Adnan missed out stating that variant readings is also connected to Tafseer. I await more similar videos.
37 different arabic qurans Like you don’t understand English, he was speaking about the Quranic manuscripts lodged in the Hussayni Mosque in Cairo, Egypt. Where that specific copy was “99%” with al Fatihah, the first chapter and the beginning of the second chapter, Baqarah. But as regards “the Quran” we do indeed have it complete because while something was missing with the Quran in Egypt, other manuscripts have those missing parts. Listening is indeed an art.
Does anyone know where I could buy the second edition of "The History of the Quranic Text, from Revelation to Compilation: A Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments"?. I have the first edition on pdf, but I'd rather buy a paper copy. I've looked on Amazon but they have it listed at an extortionate price for some reason + there's a very long shipping wait. Anyone know where I could get hold of this quickly and at a reasonable price???
Salamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh I have a question it's about the topic of Qoran preservation you said 3 years ago in a live stream where you spoke against Dr Yasir Qadhi that the Qoran has been standardized by danger in Quraysh dialect but how did you do it if Zaid and the other 3 could endanger the Quraish dialect, but they could not harm the rest of the Ahruf and how could they then standardize everything in the Quraish dialect. Could you please answer me it is very important to me personally For Allah swt may Allah make paradise Al firdaus possible for you ALLAHUMME AMIN
For Christians in comment section. Does this make sense that you have god with 3 heads plus he’s 100% man and 100% god. Which means you have 4 gods and one man🤣🤣🤣
abdul hidayat father said in old testament that they is no other god beside him so he’s either lying or trinity is fake chose one. Plus Jesus said father is the “only” true god. Only means exclusively single and they is none beside him
@@howtodoit4204 How arrogant of you as human to think you can comprehensively understand God? The creator of the universe? Have you no shame? Have you no humility human? We can only understand what he choose to reveal. Don't make God in your own image.
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now! For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget. th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html ( TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!) You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP! You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!! Hallelujah!!!
I only agree with Adnan Rashid n montgomery watt that what we have in our hand is the authentic Uthmanic (pubs) Quran with minor variations in the qira at . as our Bro Rashid agree with Mr watt said Uthman`s commmission start doing Allah work and decided what to include in this new Quran and what to excluded. in plane word what we have is a political Quran what wet see is the Quran of Muhammad? . sorry instanto its partially lost, thanks bro Adnan keep up the good work [video time 1:29:10]
Brother Adnan, I'd really like you to do a video refuting Fred Donner's claims on the origins of Islam, that would be very needed! Jazaka Allahu khayran for your efforts!
I didnt need to see this to believe, the quran that we have now is enough for me to believe it is from Allah.. this kind of discoveries are not for us believers... it for the non believers .. for the haters also.. al hamdolilah for islam
I have one question, if the Quran was standardized in the Qureshi dialect by Uthman and was distributed widely, why do we still have variances in the words what is being read in part of North Africa. I am not discounting that the variances/ways to recite were allowed by the Prophet pbuh but if it was standardized why are they still different. For eg: the differences between hafs and warsh.
I am very surprised harsh words used in criticising others. I thought people don't do that in England. In the House of Commons such words will not be allowed by the Speaker of the House.
Bismillah. ... .. We all know the Quran is Divinely Protected as befitting ALLAH's Majesty. Hence the Sunnah is protected in many means by ALLAH's Permission such as via the Orthadox 4 Sunni Madhahib, Mujaddids over a time of a millenium, ijma, orally preservation which is still practise till today by pious Ulama e Haq, while also within our Sacred Literary such as Ahadith Sharif and other factors of Islamic discipline, to such gaurding of the (Quran&)Sunnah, such as the manhaj of the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'ah as codified within the adherence to one of the Aimma Imams Madhab in all its rulings by all Muqallid to their Mujtahid fi'l shari' Imam (whom are of the people with insurance from ALLAH's Rasul S. as they are the salaf as Salehin themselves) Thence, all matters outside of the Sunni Madhabs is sectarianism, which leads to those other deviant sects as within the Prophecies of RasulULLAH's Ummah (sallALLAHU alayhi wa sallam) And ALLAH and HIS Rasul knows best As the Sahabah radiaALLAHU anhuma would believe to know and say.
The only miracle about d quran is that it fools all muslims. The most obvious dubious, fake, devilish, plagiarized book/recitation of all time .Quran deserves an award for being a legitimate fraud
Atlantic Antiques Seeing how you are copying and pasting all over the comment section, I decided to paste my responses to you as well. I am happy you bring all those early Muslim sources which confirm the Quran was written down during the life of the prophet. But you only mentioned specific narrations and you omitted others. This doesn’t show the full picture, and it wrongly makes it appear that a single person was responsible for the decision of what went in the written copy. Or, there was some sort of foul play. You also assume the prophet somehow taught people the Quran verses without teaching them the order, or clarifying what verses to include and what verses to not include. But this is incorrect. It’s very well known that verses were abrogated. People have studied about this and many books are written about the subject during the past millennium. You can also find evidence in the stories narrated about the prophet, and also the Quran itself makes clear reference in chapter 2 verses 106 “We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent? (106) When talking about prophet Mohammed companions, I am not sure you recognize they are the disciples of prophet Mohammed. They are the people who intimately learned from, lived with, asked questions to and heard the sermons of prophet Mohammed never mind fought along his side. Those people formed a public committee, invited everyone in the entire community to participate, insured the authentication of each verse required at least two sworn eye and ear whiteness, checked the memorized verses against the written verses, then after having finished the compilation checked it against the copy Abu Bakr compiled earlier, then invited the entire community of believers to double check and object if they had any issues. All those discussions are preserved in the same sources you seem to have selectively partially quoted. It was a communal effort, and people who are motivated by faith tend to place the fear of God above anything. So I am quite confident that if at the time one or few people attempted to corrupt the compiled Quran, others would have called them out. The very existence and preservation of the discussions related to this period is living proof of the authenticity and sincerity of the effort that went into compiling the Quran. If someone wanted to hide something, they wouldn’t have invent it this way. If you are Christian, I want you to honestly reflect on this point and Imagine if the disciples of Jesus Christ (peace be upon them all) canonized a single gospel by doing the same thing instead of leaving four different gospels attributed to them at a later date (For the sake of not over stretching the point, I will not get into the difference between the four gospels themselves, or the differences between the synoptic gospels and John's gospel or the apocryphal manuscripts). The second point is The variants in the Quran is something that was recognized in the early centuries as different readings that the prophet used that were reported by different people. The entire text of the Quran is identical, but in some verses, while the entire text of the verse is intact, there are minor differences in particular words (mainly synonyms) and sometimes different prepositions All Qurans produced after are from those recognized readings to this day. And also anything outside of those accepted readings is rejected to this day. It’s not the case for the the New Testament, as based on my research, variants were first recognized by Erasmus in the sixteenths century when he started working on the Textus Receptus, and later on it picked up more scholarly attention. So unless what I said was totally false, it would NOT be comparable to the Quran variants that were said to have been heard from the prophet himself and date back to the first century. (And carbon dated manuscripts confirm that).
T. S. Thank you for your response, but I believe you have taken a defensive position in trying to defend the Gospels (which wasn’t at all the main subject of my post) and you missed out on the main points I was trying to convey in response to what this “Atlantic Antique” username has been copying and pasting all over the comments section. This person didn’t even bother to watch the videos in full, go through and verify the evidence given in the video or to at least tried to objectively understand. Instead, this person jumped into posting the type of claims that reflects badly on this person’s character and the religion this person represents and ethical standards this person holds himself accountable to. For anyone with basic knowledge, it’s clear what this person is doing is very deceptive and shows a lack of moral integrity. But also based on my experience, these type of people will automatically reject logic and proof, and prefer to stick to listening to someone who feeds them the information they want to hear and believe rather than bother to objectively try to learn the truth because the simple fact is: 1. If this person knows the facts and fuller picture and still decided to present the argument the way it was presented above, then it’s clear to me this person is a lying fraud and will not respond to logic or evidence because this person’s deception is intentional. 2. If this person doesn’t know the facts and fuller picture and is only repeating someone else’s argument, then despite this person’s laziness, there maybe a benefit in showing this person the absurdity of the logic used in the post which justifies contrasting it to the Biblical equivalent. I will try to summarize my points as follows: 1. This person explicitly suggested the claim of missing verses by selectively picking stories without paying attention to either the authenticity or any other views. Rationally speaking don’t you think if what this person said was valid, Muslims would not have investigated any of it? What this person is doing is deliberate suppression of evidence which is fraudulent. 2. Since the information was presented with no basic background information or explanations of what Muslims historical sources or scholars actually say, because that would immediately explain all of it. So it must be either done out of complete ignorance or deliberately. Either way it makes this person look bad. 3. The only way I believe it’s possible to explain the argument used by this person is to draw a parallel and contrast it to a familiar setting which means a parallel comparison to the history of the New Testament. If this person is ignorant, maybe it will lead to a better understanding, and if it was a deliberate deception attempt, it would show everyone else the quality of this person’s reasoning and evidence. I don’t care to take a view on the Gospel or play a game of “my scripture is better than yours”, it boils down to holding people like “Atlantic Antique” accountable to their own claims. As for your post, please read my previous post again (I will be happy to post additional lectures) in addition to watching the very video above itself which I believe are sufficient to address your points. Please also do investigate all claims independently (but please stick to academic sources and stay away from apologetics). The following video may be beneficial to help you grasp what Muslims actually believe (not what many Christian apologetics tell you Muslims believe), because it contrasts Islam to Christianity th-cam.com/video/tqZOhNq1qu8/w-d-xo.html I genuinely am not concerned with what you believe or don’t believe, this is your choice and I respect that. But It’s not for me, and that’s based on research and conviction, but each one of us will be held accountable by our Divine Creator independently, therefore I more concerned about myself, my own beliefs and my own actions to achieve my own salvation. If you have additional points or clarifications, let me know.
T. S. I totally understand. Anyone who says they don’t sympathize with your position given the general climate and the content of information out there and process of information decimation would not be placing themselves in your shoes. I just think it’s weird you never stopped to ask yourself “How come Muslims don’t see what we see and why?” Look since you are being honest, I have to tell you I am neither surprised nor caught off guard by your reply. At this stage the usual script is I go on the defensive, and you reiterate the same over consumed allegations and it ends up like every other comments section. At this stage I see both camps using the same accusations and same refutations, it’s at a stage people are copying and pasting (myself included) without even being conscious of the content of their posts (let alone taking actual time to reasonably consider, research, verify or think about it). The issue is exasperated however, with the abundance of channels that decimated as well as enforce false accusations, so as if it’s not bad that people are not stopping to think and verify, they are being fed more misinformation. So unless people start choosing to consciously verify and research, I would say, it’s an action that they choose to participate in, which subsequently they have to justify to their Divine Creator. I personally don’t play that game Please note that Character assassination of prophet Mohammed is the first go to tactic that people have used in the past 1441 years. Those character attacks were proven as lies during the time of the prophet, because people around him saw him behaving differently to what those character assassins were saying. So in a nutshell, it’s human behavior that continues to this day which we see everywhere around us ranging from today’s politics to immature teenagers. When people are unable to win, they put down the winners with gossip and spread false rumors about them. It says more about the inadequacy and incompetence of the person doing it, while not hurting the image of the winner by any means. After the prophets passing, people didn’t stop, and let’s be honest, they never will. But their attempts were repeatedly refuted many times over by both scholars and regular people using solid evidence that you can look up. But If we are being totally honest, after having readyour post about the Quran in modern Arabic, I am not expecting you to undertake any serious scholarship. Please forgive me, but I genuinely did think that post was hilarious 😂 🤣 🤣 😂 But moving to the next issue: I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion about the compilation of the Bible vs Quran, I see them as having had two different distinct histories although that doesn’t necessarily place me in support of the “the Bible is totally corrupted camp” nor do I subscribe to “the Bible is the world of God camp”. I don’t think it’s verbatimly preserved, yet I would say what the Quran says “it contains guidance and light” and I stick to the Quran as the criterion for me. My basis on comparatively judging between the two books was how much of it’s content is satisfying my existential questions. And as you can verify: the Quran is the winner for me. As I mentioned above, I research things for my own benefit. I try to be as much objective as my subconscious indoctrination allow me, and I succeeded in challenging some of my accumulated prejudices but also enforced others but ended up developing a much deeper understanding of why those ideas emerged to begin with, but as I outlined before, convincing others is not a priority for me.
I like how non-muslims try to use vowel marks to show that the Quran isn't preserved. Vowel marks are simply added to help non-Arabic speakers to read the Quran, from what I understand the vowel Mark's aren't even needed for fluent Arabic speakers. Next thing we'll see is non-muslims complaining that colour-coded Qurans show that the Quran isn't preserved lol.
Yasir Qadhi said the Quran preservation topic is suppose to be secret that is discussed only among scholars or people of knowledge, not among people with little knowledge.
Sovereign Soul I agree with you 100%. That was what I understood when I watched his interview with Mohammed Hijab. Yasir Qadi said verbatimly the Quran is the world of Allah and it’s 100% preserved.
If he said we teach this information to advanced students, why do you say it’s secret? Why don’t you become an advanced student and learn about it yourself? Your comment is exactly why I think Yasir Qadi was careful not to discuss information without going into deep details, because people either totally misunderstand or they edit out his words to spread false information. So please try to understand it from this new perspective. Remember christian apologetics are already editing out his video in a fake manner to spread lies. I always wonder which part of Christianity gives those apologetics the authority to use lies and deception
@@yusufnasiru1709 Actually they talked about preservation of the Quran. Here is a quote from the subtitles file. Time: 01:16:40 "He released his big big video about the leaks of some kind of email chat that you involved in about preservation of Quran"
Ishaq Ibrahim This is why I suggested if you are unsure you can attend his class because in the video in exactly 1:31:18 Dr Yasir Qadi explicitly says “I will not hide anything, the Quran is the world of God, the Quran has been preserved”
MashaAllah. May Allah reward the brothers for this effort. The muslims have nothing to hide - our narrative has always been the same . Allah will continue to preserve this book until right before the end of times.
You're referring to or blaming Christian missionaries discrediting the preservation of the Quran when it's now coming from your own scholars and they are now giving facts about variances, twist it as much you like it, it's too late, deception is over, certainly, the BEST of DECEIVER cannot continue to deceive for long.
*Why the existence of different qira'at does not prove the Qur'an is corrupted:* As Muslims we admit that the Qur'an has variant readings. These variant readings are called qira'aat. They have all been revealed by God and the prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be on him) recited the Qur'an with all of those variant readings. However, if your argument is that these variants have appeared as a result of errors due to scribes making changes to the Qur'an or people mishearing or mispronouncing the Qur'an as it was passed down orally, why is it that no Muslim scholars have ever debated with each other as to what the correct wordings are for the Qur'an? Why has the Qur'an never been through a process of textual criticism, where scholars are uncertain about the text and are debating with each other to produce a text as close to the original as possible? This has obviously happened for the Bible and other texts, but never in history has this ever happened for the Qur'an. Also, if the Qur'an is corrupt, wouldn't we expect each qira'ah to have its own versions, such as different versions of hafs or warsh or susi? Rather, each qira'ah is preserved - no two muslims in the world disagree on the hafs qira'ah or the warsh qira'ah or the duri qira'ah, etc.
So in summary Quran was revealed in 7 different forms and those forms each had some recitation methods. Some of those 7 forms were destroyed in wars. And the remaining forms had different recitations. Later on Qureishi form was chosen as the standard form by Uthman rh and was written down (Probably we have access to more than 1 form today since there are differences in text as well). And at the time there were many recitation methods. And this continued till around 100 ago when Hafs recitations was also chosen as the standard recitation. This explains christians' claims about different Qurans being out there. And when it's said that quran is preserved and there is one quran. It means the Quran that is read today by majority of muslims gets its textual form from the manuscript written by Uthman rh and its oral form (recitation) from hafs which are approved by the prophet saw and all the muslims. I want to completely understand this matter. Please correct me if i'm wrong and haven't understood the matter correctly.
Q1. But which one of these 7 is preserved in Laohe Mahfuz? Q2.What gave Right to Uthman to Standardize Quran when Muhammad (s) Himself said 7 forms are prmissible? I'm not here to argue.I am confused too.Quran was supposed to be only one and perfectly preserved in Laohe Mahfuz. It was supposed to be a Miracle.But Quran isn't only one according to Muslim scholars! how do the MIRACLE part still stand?!
Please make a short video to summarize the clarification you mentioned at @2:12:58 citing references showing that it was God revealing the variants in أحرف and/or قراءات. Thank you! جزاك الله خيرا
It's a variant reading stemming from the Ahruf only when it is vocalized, MAALIK or MALIK are both been authentically reported and preserved from prophet Muhammad pbuh. The Uthmani preserved Mushaf/Quran was transcribed NEUTRALLY so it can accommodate these variant styles of reading by the different tribes even clans within the tribes. Many tribes had clans within them and the prophet's tribe Quraysh had 10 main clans. The tribes and clans, not all but some had minute differences on how they pronounced certain words, Just the way today English within Britain is spoken very differently across the country and also have their own dialects such as Scots, Scouse, Cockney, etc, Brits and Americans have a long list of words that are not only pronounced differently but are also spelled differently such as (Brits) ALUMINIUM and (US) ALUMINUM similarly the Arabs had variants among them especially at a time when language was not standardized. One would need a good understanding of the complex nuances of the ARABIC language to comprehensively understand and acknowledge that it does not have any significance on the Qur'ans preservations nor do these "Ahruf/styles/dialects/variants" in any way contradict the meaning. I hope I have made it clear enough.
It would be better if some of the Arabic terms were rendered into English for greater clarity. For example, "Ahrouf" should be referred to as articulation or pronunciation or elocution. Thus the 7 modes should have been discussed as 7 ways of articulation or pronunciation etc. Instead of merely stating "Warsh" or "Hafs" etc repeatedly examples of these should have been given for illustration.
@Atlantic Antiques - here is a scholarly account which although is a long and involved read debunks your claims: thedebateinitiative.com/2015/07/08/a-critical-analysis-of-jay-smiths-mistakes-about-the-quran-2/amp/
Aslam alikom brother i have a question that do we have the ahruf preserved to this day if not than Allah SWT promised to that we have sent reminder and we shall protect it please brother clarify it to me and i didn’t understand 2:13:53 the ahruf has no bearing on Quran and
As salamu alaykum brother It is true that some ahruf are not preserved, but the Qur'an still has not changed because the text of the Qur'an that we have today is exactly the same as one of the 'versions' revealed to the prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be on him). Also, the ahruf only account for minor differences in the text such as spelling of words or synonyms and they don't contradict anything we have in our text today like the different versions of the Bible contradict each other. I hope this makes sense. Does that answer your question?
The recent controversy is NOT because Yasir Qadhi said some things during an interview that was picked up and abused by third parties. The controversy is caused by a couple of angry, conniving Muslims who provided the evidence that Muslim scholars cannot prove perfect preservation. The 'preservation' discussion started in a forum for Islamic students and scholars where Yasir Quadhi sent some messsages about reconciling the elements of 'human transmission' and some picked up on this. 2 decided not to confront Yasir Qadhi or simply explain what he saw wrong and how this could be reconciled. Instead they decided that his heresy was serious enough to show it to the world and they leaked Yasir Qadhi's messages to the world to show how deviant his thinking was. This led to discussions etc. but later on it was decided to feed Muhammed Hijab questions he should ask Yasir Qadhi that were designed to expose YQ's repulsive way of thinking. The idea was that Muslims would see through him for what he was and he would expose his true nature. Thhe interview was held and the ploy was successful in the sense that YQ was cornered about whether he could fill a blank Quran with the direct word of god. The leaked emails were only seen by a few, but the video caught attention. Many Muslim apologists are angry because of YQs soundbytres ('hooles in the narrative' being the most easily quotable). But what many overlook is that the strength of a highlly-respected scholar being declared a heretic by some of his colleagues is very clear evidence that there is a problem that is so strong that idealists go behind his back to 'expose' his 'thought crimes'. The facrt that YQ tried to defend himself to the more moderate Muhammmed Hijab by opening up was not YQs fault but MH and Farid's design. This means that YQ can try to rephrase what he wanted to say, can reaffirm his beliefs in doctrine and dogma, and it all will not help. 1. The current collection of some 40 different variants is going to prove impossible to solidly prove to science as 'perfectly preserved'. So that claim will remain untenable in the scientific world. There are too many gaps, too many uncertainn factors too manny small issues to claim it is the direct word of god. The only way to claim it is as dogma/doctrine. Muslims are free to believe and preach it, but scientifically speaking it is not proven and never will be. 2. A miracle should be something that is easily visible/understandable that convinces people. The Quran is too complex to be called a miracle. If one could fill one empty Quran with the direct word of god: maybe. But all the current variants all being accepted aas part of the Quran is just too much. It is possible to memorize one variant, but how many can be memorized without getting confused and mixing them up? . If one cannot memorize multiple versions how did the chains reflect the variants? If the chains did not reflect the variants how did the scribes make sure there was no confusion? How many people were needed to memorize all the versions?
A list of 20 ARABIC LANGUAGE QURANS. The QURAN is NOT perfectly PRESERVED to the smallest detail! These ARABIC LANGUAGE QURANS are ALL different in MAJOR and MINOR points! 1) Hafs (1924) version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in Muslim world in general 2) Warsh version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in Algeria, Morocco, parts of Tunisia, West Africa and Sudan 3) Qalun version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in Libya, Tunisia and parts of Qatar 4) al-Duri version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in parts of Sudan and West Africa 5) Hisham version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in parts of Yemen 6) Ibn Dhakwan version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in parts of Yemen 7) Khalaf version: Read,memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 8) Khallad version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 9) al-Duri version: Read,memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 10) Abu'l-Harith version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 11) Ibn `Ayyash version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 12) al-Bazzi version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 13) Qunbul version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 14) al-Suri version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 15) Ibn Wardan version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 16) Ibn Jamaz version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 17) Ruways version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 18) Rawh version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 19) Ishaq version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations 20) Idris al-Haddad version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
@T. S. The original Quran was recited from the very first century of Islam. The same Quran is still being recited. Do your proper research. Your only embarrassing yourself over here.
@T. S. So because the Bible is in modern English its corrupted your saying? What kinda logic is this? Quran has been saved in the memories of many men. We dont need a book to recite or read it. Do you understand this. Unlike the Bible you need to choose the Catholic version, Protestant version or Jehovas Bible. A complete mess as the Bible went trough time. Copy mistakes, forgery texts, ect ect.
T. S. I cant believe you actually posted this. Do you have any idea how dumb and ignorant you sound? Please go to anyone who actually speaks Arabic and ask them. My native language is Arabic. I also memorized parts of the Quran and it’s in the same 7th century Arabic language. Changing a single word deliberately is considered blasphemous. What are you thinking? did you actually think you can get away with lying to Muslims to their face?
Why should muslims not cross the 'red line'? Crossing the 'red line' is what results in a deep understanding of the underlying issues. A crossing the 'red line' mentality is why the West have excelled in innovation leaving the Islamic world far behind.
Mashaallah tabarakallah ya Adnan Rashid, love you for the sake of Allah. Could you make a history coverage video on freemasonry through Quran and sunnah it's origins and such?
انا اريد دراسة التاريخ الاسلامى ولكن تواجهنى مشكلة المصادر فحينما نقرأ للمؤرخين المسلمين فهناك دائما شبهة التجميل وانهم يجملون الحضارة الاسلامية واما المستشرقون فمن المعروف حقدهم على الحضارة الاسلامية ومحاولة التشكيك فى تقدمها فهل هناك من المصادر ما يكون محايدا ينقل الحقيقة كما هى ويكون مقبولا لدى الجميع ؟ ارجو الرد
Timestamps
Introduction - 0:00
What is the Quran? - 6:13
The topics that will be covered in this session - 9:17
Why the claim that the Quran is orally preserved is not far-fetched - 12:55
Analysis of The 'Oldest' Quran which was found in Birmingham - 21:14
Reading from the 'Oldest' Quran - 28:58
Invitation to read Quran Manuscripts - 46:44
Analysis of Dr. Joseph Lumbard's video regarding the preservation of The Quran - 50:23
Why are there different dialects of reading The Quran - 55:57
Compilation of the Quran - 58:45
Criticism of Christian missionaries and the purpose of The Compilation - 1:05:50
Reading the quotes of Western Orientalists regarding the preservation of The Quran - 1:29:10
Analysis of Dr. Yasir Qadhi`s video regarding the Quran - 1:42:03
Conclusion - 2:20:39
Remember me in your Duas
@@thomasthedankengine993 يا أخي إسمي معاذ بالعين
😂😂😂
Thank you for the timestamps.😊😁😀
Thank you Brother
JazakAllah bro.
I will for sure rember you in my dua
Alhamdulillah I can see the exact similarity with my Qur'an. This, indeed solidifies my belief in Islam. May Allah reward you trillion folds brother Adnan.
Where in the Quran it mentions all variations?
JazakAllah khair bro Adnan, I learnt allot and I'm sure everyone will benefit
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now!
For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget.
th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html (
TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!)
You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP!
You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!!
Hallelujah!!!
@@godsaveskyrieeleison5859 l think you are not alright.you ask a good Muslim like Adnan to become Christian,it's something not easy to DO even for a non practicing muslim.
@@godsaveskyrieeleison5859 poor you! Christians believe in Trinity god. 😂😂😂
@@godsaveskyrieeleison5859 Theres no human addition in the quran. All words are from god. So why would adnan convert lol 😅
@@MohammadQasim lol it's all the human works and ideas of man. God would not be as narcissistic as Allah. It's obvious to any sane reader that Muhammad uses Allah as a sock puppet to manipulate people to get his way. The Quran is one giant wishlist of stupidity for the sake of Muhammad. Only a delusional personer doesn't see this and the devil loves to delude people. We know this from the Bible.
Brother Adnan thanx for everything you do for ummah
Did you mean the lies he said to cover up the truth? Did you even mk an effort to check his claims...
@@bincyxavier3495 bro I wish u made an effort to find the truth.
Missing words in manuscripts debunks adnan by dr Andrew brubaker
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He said withouth prove it.. He is a lier.
See what exactly your Adnan is doing for ummmmmma 😘😘😘😘
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Thank you so much. I feel like my life got rejuvenated. I was dying every day after listening to Yasir Qadhi's statements and it was killing me. I was having a really hard time dealing with and I couldn't find anyone who clarified what Dr. Qadhi meant. I thank Allah for this. I got my peace back. May Allah reward you guys!
Also watch Mohammad hijab video on Quran preservation on sapience institute
And do not listen to Yasir qadhi. He has changed since the time he went to Yale University. He has been refuted by so many people
@@yooshatarique019 Yeah, I stopped listening to him. I listen to sheikh Assimalhakeem, Abu Mussab, Saajid Lipham, Mohammad Hijab most of the times.
@@khalidbinwalid4252 good brother. May Allah bless you. Also check out, shaykh uthman ( one message foundation, masjid ribat), al madrasatul ummariyah, mufti menk etc
Ustadh Adnan Rashid... just to clarify Sh Yasir Qadhi also agreed on the preservation of Qur'an in that same video at the end.
He is not refuting YQ, he is addressing people who are refuting YQ but cutting the clips and misquoting YQ.
Safwan g are you genuinely surprised?
Safwan g Exactly brother 😂😂😂😂
Thank you brother Adnan Rashid and Imran Hussein. More videos like this need to be made. Alhamdulilah for Islam.
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now!
For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget.
th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html (
TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!)
You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP!
You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!!
Hallelujah!!!
@@godsaveskyrieeleison5859 I truly am sorry for ppl like you, honestly... I wonder what it must feel like to have so much hate stored in your heart that it blinds your mind and soul
Quran 15:9 " Indeed, it is We who sent down the Qur'an and indeed, We will be its guardian"
Ameen
Well it seems the whte man and UK has been its guardian.
37 different arabic qurans no u misunderstood that manuscript has 99% n da other manuscript has da other pages
What was sent? Muhammad did not receive any Quran (book). It required Uthman and others to make war to have a Quran. :D How can it be sent down when Muhammad himself was quoted as the verse is invented by him? :D
it says Dhikr, not Quran. and Musa also received the Dhikr and a Furqan (21.48). so the Tora is protected as well.
I thank Allah for the critics who implicitly pursuade Adnan and Imran to share this beautiful knowledge, which results in the strengthening of our faith and brings more people to Islam. In sha Allah. Al hamdulillah
37 different arabic quran do you really care?
@Revolutionary Man He said that actually. 1% or 6 pages are corrupt according to Adnan
Titus what part of the video did he say that? I watched the whole thing and i never heard him say that.
37 different arabic qurans You liars don’t really get the point. He was referencing how the modern qur’an is exactly the same as the 1st century qur’an manuscripts. Yes, the first few pages are missing in that manuscript but that does not disprove the authenticity of al fatiha and few verses of baqarah. What about the other manuscripts? And that is why we have the oral tradition of memorizing the qur’an so it can complement the written text and vice versa.
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now!
For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget.
th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html (
TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!)
You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP!
You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!!
Hallelujah!!!
I started crying when I first saw the original manuscript. SubhanAllah, it was surreal to see an evidence as strong as that ☺️. Alhamdullilah, I suggest to myself and everyone else to start memorizing and implement the Quran to the best we can, beIzniAllah Tala!
That's what happened when the brain is over washed
@David Zia,
*Sorry, but you don't have an original manuscript.* *It's the "Kufic" script which is dated in the 8th. and 9th. century, which would be the 2nd. and 3rd. century in Islam.* *NOT THE 1ST. CENTURY!* *That was a deliberate lie by Adnan.* *So now western Ph.D Islamic Scholars can't be trusted?* *LOL!* *Who is Adnan trying to shit?* *The quran has rat holes in the narrative.* *Just like the Christian missionaries have been saying at Speakers Corner for at least the past four years.* *This is going to be fun to see western Islamic scholars exposing you people!* *The lies 🤥and deception of "Team Dawah" is OVER!* *Get ready Ali Dawah, Adnan Rashid, and Mohammad Hijab....an army of Christian missionaries will be seeing you at Speakers Corner soon!* 💂🏽♂️✝💂🏽♂️✝💂🏽♂️✝
@Haidar Ibn Akhlaq *That's a LIE!* 😁 *I feel sorry for you guys being exposed like this.* *But, this deception game is over.* *The fall-out has just begun.*
@Haidar Ibn Akhlaq
*I'll show you textual corruption of the quran right now....*
@Haidar Ibn Akhlaq
*Not only that, but anyone can read stories in the quran and identify their earlier historical counterpart.* *Meaning, the quran is a plagiarized book.* *This is provable.* *What was allah doing copying heretical Gnostic texts (for example) on heavenly tablets?*
Please don't stop lightening the world by the wisdom of knowledge , "Jazakum Allah Khair"
Adnan bhai u made everything crystal clear May Allah bless u immensely...I was so much confused that I had to msg u MashAllah u responded to this adnaa Musalmaan from a small city from India 🇮🇳 what a nice person u are and above that a true Muslim on the day of judgement I will bear witness how much u had helped me to stay on Islam ☪️ firmly
How are things over there with regards to the treatment of Muslims? I heard there's some political tension.
Yasir Qadhi made a VAGUE statement which he clarified on FB.
If The Quran has not been preserved and has been changed over the years, then the eloquence, the divinity and deep meaning of the Quran etc. would not remain.
So I challenge you with the challenge of the Quran. Produce just ONE chapter like the Quran, Just ONE. You don't need to produce 114 chapters just ONE.
That is a totally subjective challenge.
No matter what some one brings you could call it a fail.
Is that the best proof of the Quran you have ?
@@Anonymous-sq6eo hmm... No it hasn't. Compare the deep meaning inside Shakespeare's poetry and the Quran. Compare the length of commentary on both, just on one or two verses. Let's take this one video out of the many:
th-cam.com/video/Njuq145ESzk/w-d-xo.html
2 hours to explain the deep meaning.
Furthermore, the extent to which you are right, however, is limited and does not threaten the miracle of the Quran. While Shakespeare and Dickens can never be matched "at their own game" in terms of surpassing them in their own literary style, the fact is that Shakespeare and Dickens did not accurately and adequately explain the deepest mysteries of metaphysics and ethics while simultaneously maintaining the highest standard of literary excellence. Here the analogy breaks down, so I really don't think this takes anything away from the Quaranic miracle.
@@thenowchurch6419 OK then, have you tried it yourself?
2 x Is all you have debunked internet stuff? Is that seriously the level of your scholarship?
If only people like you would recycle plastic the same frequency you recycle arguments the planet would be in a much better state.
Go look up the answers I am not going to bother posting a response
Psalm 1
1 Blessed is the one
who does not walk in step with the wicked
or stand in the way that sinners take
or sit in the company of mockers,
2 but whose delight is in the law of the Lord,
and who meditates on his law day and night.
3 That person is like a tree planted by streams of water,
which yields its fruit in season
and whose leaf does not wither-
whatever they do prospers.
4 Not so the wicked!
They are like chaff
that the wind blows away.
5 Therefore the wicked will not stand in the judgment,
nor sinners in the assembly of the righteous.
6 For the Lord watches over the way of the righteous,
but the way of the wicked leads to destruction.
Salam, your immediate step to discuss this hot topic (because of the brother YQ and brother Mohammad Hijab) is very timely for a lot of us common people. Alhamdulillah, this was needed and gives us a big sigh of relief. Not that we got confused about the holy Quran but it made us what we should do with this type of understanding of some western dayees who are unfortunately busy with satisfying the non-muslim!
I thought that was Musa on the right! MashaAllah. Father and Son May Allah protect you both! Ameen! ❤️
Its not Musa, Its Imran
TeckGeekWiz I SAID ON THE RIGHT! please concentrate and understand something before u reply. Thank u
Me too
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now!
For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget.
th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html (
TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!)
You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP!
You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!!
Hallelujah!!!
Oktalz Jesus is Lord 😂😂😂😂😂 The Quran conforms your sheepishness when it says, “Dead, Dumb and Blind they will not return”. And also, “He has put a seal on their hearts and their hearing and their sight and they comprehend not”.
You are Mr. oktalz... EVEN when the truth STARES you in the face you STILL choose to overlook it or ignore it. There are NO DIFFENCES IN THE TEXT, but you wanna make a hash out of it and the fact that you use That idiot preacher Jay really just confirms my suspicions. A dude who has been refuted a million times yet still chooses to spend all his time trying to refute Islam!! 😂You ignoramus’ really are pathetic...
It's a stupidity for Muslims to let Wersten scholars who don't even believe in God, to approve our Quran for us when we have our own scholars in the East. Adnan Rashid has made my day for this beautiful explanation. May Allah bless you for this great work that you guys have done.
Your own scholars lie to you.Listen to Yasir Qadhi. when he says some things shouldnt be public.Western scholars dont lie.They dont care if you are muslim,Christian or whatever.They only search the truth.They dontv have red lines.But I understand you prefer to hide your head in the sand and live a lie.It is hard to see you world crumbling down.
Revolutionary Man don’t you Muslim listen to Bart Erthman because it fits your narrative? He speaks freely and it is what is expected in the western world ,in your backward world scholars are expected to stay quiet,so this is important when one of them accidentally let something reveals the truth
So in laymen terms Yasir Qadhi was not talking from a foundational perspective regarding the preservation of the Quran
(i.e the physical copy ) nor disputing the fact that the variant readings were indeed divinely revealed by Allah but just talking about already known open questions regarding branch topics which have no bearing on the preserved physical copy and it's consonantal skeleton
(basically the letters without diacritical marks) whatsoever, namely what is the exact relation between the Qira'at and the Ahruf ?
yes. The original quran does not have vowel marks fathah, dummah, kasrah of any form or Shaddah and madd for the length stretches in qiraat to prolong the vowels.
Honestly I don't find this all that confusing, its like people from various countries pronounce "potato" differently. But since this is ancient Arabic which is highly nuanced language and certain pronunciations can change meaning more caution is required.
@guillotine 481 watch Bob v Hashim speakers corner Trinity. Busted
Yasir Qadhi one of your top scholars complelty exposed the quran.
It's over
@ I stopped reading your comment when you said "this and that" goes to show you don't know what your talking.
Yassir qhadi was talking about how the quran is the unadultrated word of God if what we have today would have been a result of peoples regional arabic who pronounce things differently. Yassir qhadi therefor is insinuating that thr quran is preserved only in meaning and dilectically (damma, kassra) as these were later introduced. His calim is not regarding the relationship between haruf and qiraat st all. Im afraid that if yassir qhadi explaind hos position( i.e. why he belives quran is only preseved in meaning) he will not only misguide missionaries but also muslims.
An Silves .... I don’t understand why you would take valuable time out of your day to come on this video and post lies which the video itself busts wide open... how about Actually reading the Qurans translation and learning something?
For anyone struggling with this subject i would reccoment 'an approach to understanding Quranic sciencces" by mufti Taqi Usmani, it's in the english language and quite easy to understand
One thing I learnt from any Christianity VS Islam Debate is that Christianity is subjective while Islam is objective.
Well, that's not right. The opposite actually.
@@darriuscole8544 it is because Christianity revolves around I think and Islam is all about allah said or the prophet said
Allah told us this is the final testament and that he'd protect it. This is a living miracle until the day of judgement proving Islam is the final truth. Amazing subhanallah!!
I pray that Allah raises you as a defender of this deen ustadh Adnan.
Amazing amazing amazing may allah reward all of you surat taha is almost the only long surah i have memorised it got it all allahu akbar allahu akbar allahu akbar
Quran 15:9 " It is we that has sent the revelation and it is we whose going to protect it from corruption" Alhamdulillahi Rabbil Alemiyn.
SubhanAllah.
This completely and comprehensively covers the question of preservation.
May Allah reward you brother Adnan Rashid for your work, and brother Imran Hussein for this interview/discussion.
Jazak Allah brother Adnan Rashid. May Allah give you ajr and preserve you. Ameen
1:46:57 ADNAN RASHID RESPONDS TO DR. YASIR QADHI
@Denzo Dridz The whole Islam community is shook over the claims Yasir Qadhi made.
@Denzo Dridz So Abdool looks like your very highest Islamic scholar Yasir got Islam busted. What's your excuse this time? Lol 😂
Dr brubaker missing words in Quran debunks adnan
th-cam.com/video/IMa5tqfdNzw/w-d-xo.html
Adnan is a liar
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now!
For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget.
th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html (
TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!)
You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP!
You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!!
Hallelujah!!!
I'd like to add that Yasir Qadhi was the same person who gave us the Zombie Yajooj and Majooj theory which scholars have warned against.
I'm not surprised that he made vague statements leaving people confused. Previously he even mocked scholars.
| جزاك الله خيراً
Yasir Qadhi doesn't actually believe in the Zombie theory. He was saying one of the scholars he knew proposed the theory, he himself doesn't believe it. He thinks the descendants of Yajuj and Majuj may return, but he doesn't believe in any Zombies.
It wasnt zombies.it was aliens
One of the oldest copies of Quran which is carbon dated to between 649-675, can be found on the University of Tübingen's website: idb.ub.uni-tuebingen.de/opendigi/MaVI165#tab=struct&p=2
This copy of Quran dates to the time of companions of the Prophet (SAW), which means that a companion of the prophet would most likely have written it. Not only that, but the text of this copy is exacly the same as the present Quran.
This video proves that the Qur'an is preserved beyond any doubt. It's like the bright sun 🌞 on a clear sky and anyone who denies this after watching this video is either ignorant jaahil or a liar who just hates Islam.
yes im sure yq, who did his phd on this subject at one of the best schools in the world, is wrong. that adds up.
@@brianclone9583 You are wrong , his PhD was not on the preservation of the Qur'an , it was on Ibn taymiyyah's reconciliation between reason and revelation , he is not an authority on the Qur'an nor is he an expert in the sciences related to the Qur'an.
@@brianclone9583 oh i see you live Trinity god and corrupted bible!
Indeed Yasir qadhi done mistake by not explaining long enough for audience and mashaallah look at the knowledge of brother Adnan Rashid bhai
Bcuz he didn't want to wash his dirty laundry in the public
SubhanAllah 😢🥺 this video boosted my imaan🙂❤️
I've collected about 15 quotes from Western academics attesting to the preservation of the Qur'an alhamdulilah. Insha'allah I'll do a video/blog on this!
You're doing a great service brother. Keep us updated on the following videos.
The only miracle about d quran is that it fools all muslims.
The most obvious dubious, fake, devilish, plagiarized book/recitation of all time .Quran deserves an award for being a legitimate fraud
Leo Abayomi, you are ignorant to the highest point.
@@leoabayomi1697 Filled with hate and envy. No wonder you are blind.
@Leo Abayomi this is what Christian have become. They are very furious due to the fact many of their Christian fellow have left Christianity and embraced Islam. That’s why they have to be mean toward Muslim and Islam.
Assalamu'alaykum Brother Adnan, you have done a wonderful job in defending the religion. May Allah bless you. What I would have put more emphasis on is why the burning performed by 'Uthman does not prove the Qur'an is corrupted:
*Why the burning of the Qur'ans by Uthman does not prove the Qur'an is corrupted:*
The very first text of the Qur'an was compiled during the caliphate of Abu Bakr shortly after the death of prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be on him). A very systematic process was taken to ensure that this text is exactly the same as the one that prophet Muhammad recited vocally. The companions of the prophet were certain that this text was made of the materials on which the verses of the Qur'an were written in the presence of the prophet. Also, they were able to recall moments in the past when the prophet vocally recited those same verses. Also, the scribe Zaid ibn Thabit would recite those verses in the presence of the prophet after writing them down on those materials, so that any mistakes can be immediately corrected by the prophet. Therefore, we have no doubt that the first compiled text of the Qur'an is accurate and without errors since it is composed of those materials. Now, if this is the very same text that the Caliph Uthman used for replicating new copies of the Qur'an after the burning that took place, how can you say that his new copies were corrupted?
Need more videos like this. Make the content in this video into short 20 min videos In Shaa Allah
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now!
For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget.
th-cam.com/video/vCi7ahOnhsg/w-d-xo.html (
TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!)
You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP!
You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!!
Hallelujah!!!
@@godsaveskyrieeleison5859
You clearly didn’t watch the video
Which is completely ignorant
@@haroondabbagh2869 I clearly did and you might want to add what your complaint is about. Kind of hard to work that out from such a flimsy comment. Clearly ignorant as to how to communicate.
@@godsaveskyrieeleison5859 jesus is one of our prophets...stop worshipping him
@@hahhhh2902 Jesus is God incarnate, stop following your stupid unscientific, barbaric and historically false Quran. Quran is full of mistakes on basic facts and it can´t follow it´s own rules. God did not send the Quran or Muhammad. You follow satan. I follow Jesus Christ the holy Messiah who was and still is fully God and Fully MAN!
This is exactly what I was waiting for someone to point out YQs misleading statements
@RedAkira _ the other person that we both replied to removed his comment
The only miracle about d quran is that it fools all muslims.
The most obvious dubious, fake, devilish, plagiarized book/recitation of all time .Quran deserves an award for being a legitimate fraud
@@leoabayomi1697 Did you ever read the whole book?
Leo Abayomi, you are ignorant to the highest point.
@A A .....Yes Im an ex Muslim and memorize the whole Quran in Arabic.
What’s your point ?
May Allah grant you Jannat ul Firdous
d zora what an ignorant fool you are.
اللهم احفظ كل.من يهتم في تعليمم الناس تاريخ القرآن.
Watching from Singapore, loud and clear !
Assalamu alaikum wa rahmatullah - I really hope that these doubts being cast by the non muslims leads the muslims to return to the true scholars in the muslim lands who specialise in these fields and can dismantle these doubts with ease and with the best of manners and behavior. May Allah make us from those who are pleasing to Him. Ameen
wow, this is huge. Alhamdulillah
Masha Allah 3laykum! Very educational! May Allah accept it from you. Maybe Brother Yasir didn’t know what you mentioned in this video. And may Allah forgive the Muslims for our mistakes, ameen.
Definitely the best time to issue about the preservation of quran.
Smile on my face while watching the proofs 😁😁😁
I'm a Muslim...
@UCvw5R1anIwLA2P3x57dSWNg So what are the proofs this video gave... Please clarify your statement... Half knowledge is dangerous for the modern world... But yea if Quran is perfect and no contractions in Quran then Islam is the only truth 😊😊😊
And all the divine books (bibles and hindu divine books have prophesies of Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon him) "The Last and Seal to the Prophethood. [From Prophet Adam to Prophet Muhammad (peace and blessing be upon them all)]
Do see the complete video on 1.25 speed if Lockdown also doesn't give you time... 😅
May the Lord of the Universe guide you to correct path... Aameen
@UCvw5R1anIwLA2P3x57dSWNg Read my reply
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Leonardo Da Vinci The Genius ... Miracle of the Quran!!!! what a bunch of stupid defense from Adnan. You should be weeping and repent from believing Islam
@@leoabayomi1697 you mean the scientific researchers and their research and error-free Quran is not enough for you to except him as Messenger of "Allah (The Father in Bible)"
Dear Rashid,
Thanks for the video, you have clarified certain topics for me in the past so hopefully i can get some clarity on this topic as well.
Is pre uthmani Variations/Ahruf lost after the burning or discarding ?
The 40/41 opinions held by islamic scholars- are these opinions on what the variations are present day in the Quran we have now or is it the very nature of what the Ahruf is ? what the Ahruf constitutes itself ? Can the scholars pinpoint in the quran that this is part of the Ahruf variation ? Is this that what the whole debate/opinion over ?
What troubles me is that if it is indeed 7 dialect for different tribes who spoke differently then why would umar ibn al khattab and Hishaam ibn Hakeem recite surah furqan differently ? Both of them were from Quraysh and Quraysh had only one dialect. If the difference in ahruf (styles/modes) had been a difference in dialects, why would two men of Quraysh have been different?
Supplement questions
Don’t all the 10 Qi’raat come from 1 Ahruf that Uthman standardised ?
That 1 ahruf that uthman chose does it allow for some of the 7 Ahruf’s to be read from within it ?
I’ve watched hijab/yasir and now watched your 2 1/2 hour video and both seem to use qi’rat and Ahraf interchangeably at some points.
I hope you can answer some of these questions and provide clarity to help us all that have similar confusion.
Dear Gary,
The answers to your very good questions are throughly given in this book:
kitaabun.com/shopping3/history-quranic-text-from-revelation-compilation2nd-p-6157.html
You must get this book to have a comprehensive understanding of this topic.
Adnan.
Thanks for your response, really appreciated it, When i watched your Hadith Rejection- 2 years ago you helped me with direct references to Blackstone commentaries regarding early age marriages. Which settled a lot of doubts of mine.
The book you recommended seems to be out of stock, i have googled it and wasn’t able to find a copy available.
When i watch your lectures i gain a lot of knowledge but at the same time it raises questions when i feel something’s missing or there could have been a bit more clarity, regarding the Ahruf and qi’raat there is so much conflation between these two. The mix-of these 2 elements is widespread on youtube.
If you have time could you tackle the questions i have asked so i can get a comprehensive understanding. If you can’t dedicate a bit of time could you bare minimum solve at least:
The main questions would be
What troubles me is that if it is indeed 7 dialect for different tribes who spoke differently then why would umar ibn al khattab and Hishaam ibn Hakeem recite surah furqan differently ? Both of them were from Quraysh and Quraysh had only one dialect. If the difference in ahruf (styles/modes) had been a difference in dialects, why would two men of Quraysh have been different?
Sorry for the long message i don’t like loop holes, it will stay on my mind until it’s solved.
Gary.
@@garyatkins3758 hi Gary, some good questions. I dont think this is a difficult question unless I'm missunderstanding here. The reason i say that is because this event has been fulky documented and the prophet himself responded to it. Hisham ra was clearly reading one of the ahruf (weather it was because he was from a different tribe or not does not matter). We know this because when Umar ra went to the prophet and he asked them both to recite it, he affirmed both and said to them both (regardless of what tribe they were in) ' Recite whatever you find easy'. I.e. whatever they had learnt. Hisham may have heard a different version first which he committed to memory (i.e. he found this easier). I hope that makes sense
We also have to understand the neuances of life. Just becsue i live in the uk, it doesnt mean i will pronounce tomato the same way as brits (i know ppl in thr uk who pronounce it like american) although we come from different 'tribes'.
@@garyatkins3758 just because this is causing so much doubt and you cannot find the book stocked, you view a pdf format if you type the following in a google search engine: History of the Qur'anic Text From Revelation to Compilation,2nd by mustafa al azami pdf
Thanks brother. I just learned the Sanaa Pamplisest actually confirms the traditional Islamic account , that there was a subtext used by an inferior scribes, then someone scratched it off wrote the uthmani codex on top of that. Within 20 years of the death of the Prophet a.s., we have the manuscript we have today.
@Quran Translation - English Only Bart Ehrman is a JOKE!
@Quran Translation - English Only Not necessarily. Just my OPINION which is just as valid as yours. P.S. I don't do links! I am Biodegradable Bill and I APPROVE this message.
@Lol Rofl Is that your best shot? And all this time I have been told by MUSLIMS that Muhammad was DECEIVED by Shaitaan (Satan) according to the Quran! If you're going to run with the best you had better get a FAST horse. I am Biodegradable Bill and I approve this message.
@Lol Rofl LOL ROFL CLAIMS: "We don't even know who wrote the gospels and who was Jesus". BIODEGRADABLE BILL RESPONDS: What do YOU mean "WE don't know."? Who is "WE"? Do you have a MOUSE in your pocket? Perhaps YOU don't know BUT I DO KNOW.
Biodegradable Bill, this we include your grand father and forefathers.
Quran is perfect 100%. It never changed or corrupted. Allah promised to preserve it. Allah swt says in Holy Quran. Verily, Allah who revealed the Qur'an and surely he will guard it from corruption.
@@BO0O0M650 It's 100% safe down to the letter ... The researchers said 99% because of Book being different and pages also, but the letter is same 100% same down to letter 😊😊😊
Brother's Keeper I watched both videos. Dr Shabir never said that. And in the video of Dr Yasir Qadi in exactly 1:31:18 he explicitly said “I will not hide anything, the Quran is the world of God, the Quran has been preserved”
Can you answer me please, is it part of your religion to spread lies and deception about other faiths and belief systems? If so, Which part of your scripture says you are allowed to use lies and deception?
@@BO0O0M650 I don't care what they say about Quran. Its their opinions. Allah preserved holy Quran and it never changed or corrupted. Quran came to correct errors in your corrupted bible.
In Genesis, God says, he created the night and day on the 1st day, and he created the sun on the 3rd day. Also God created heavens and the earth in six days and the seventh day, he rested. Does God get tired and need a rest 😂😂😂
Quran (50:38) And indeed Allah who created the heavens and the earth and all between them in six Days and nothing of fatigue touched him.
@@BO0O0M650 do you want to say that Islam says : Allah went to get some rest after he created the the world? There were some Jews who said that to the prophet pbuh, he replied to them by verse 38 of Surat Qaf, is that what do you mean or what?
Verse 38 of Surat Qaf says that Allah didn't get tired after he created the world so he didn't went to rest or sth like that, where is the contradiction?
The below statement is potentially wrong. I may have gotten some parts wrong. Thought I'll let you know. I'm not a scholar
"the Final Prophet recited the Noble Quran in many variants for the different tribes but all had the same meaning. For example in urban english in London the word 'sick' or 'bad' is describing something as good. I myself say 'that is a bad car' which means that is a good car. But the words in the variants weren't opposites like the exmaple I've given. It's simple."
Mashallah adnan rashid you clarified everything what i was expecting may Allah reward you
Asalaam Alaykum Wa Rahmatullah
At 35:00 onwards brother Adnan recites the word الثرى with the Dhammah on the ث.
In my Mushaf (which is the Mushaf of Hafs an Asem) the ث is read with a Fatha.
I presume brother Adnan has the same Mushaf and so I just wanted to point this out.
جزاكم الله خيرا
Great efforts, keep it up.
بارك الله فيكم
You are right. I made a mistake in reading. Thank you for the correction. It is الثري with فتح, not ضمة. I made a mistake in reading. JazakAllahu khairan.
@@MrAdnanRashid جزاك الله خيرا
This was a great video, may Allah preserve you Shaykh.
He recites correctly where mistake?plz br reply
What is meant by dhamma?
This video is exposing missionaries tactics same way like Joseph Schacht and Ignác Goldziher exposed by Mustafa Al Azmi. Thanx Adnan Rashid.
Missionaries are wasting millions of dollars to spread lies against Islam. They lost their credibility. Their establishment of faith systems is failed. Only spreading lies & Paganism through their unanswered biased beleifs.
You people have nothing except bunch of lies. All Gospels contradict each other Mark, Luke were not in 12 Apostles. Matthew doesn't know Jesus told follow me. John says we know the testimony is right. Who witnessed. All writers in absent mode. All deciples were illiterate, ignorant Aramic speaking. Luke not deciple acts, Peter was illiterate fisher ignorant 2 books, James 1 book, same illiterate John 3 books and revelation, Hypocrite Paul only 7 forged letters 6 forged on forged books Hebrew unknown actually all Unknown. So what's left where is your epistemology? where is your new Covenant,
Moses written torah. How he knew that He will die at the age of 120 and he will be buried in the Valley of Mob. After seeing all this Church Industry Blunders feel very ashamed and feel unbearable pain inside. When they see Islam and Quran preservation and purity. So they hired and hiring PHD and orientalist idiots, They always debunked in scolery debates. They can make fools only their audience like Ravi Zakaria did. So only two choices be happy with biased fake faith like Ignorant and fools does Or accept the truth ASAP.
@Imran Ali that is why Quran refers us as people of the book.. not people of the wrong book 🤣😂
Quran preserved word for word dot for dot is debunked.
@Serve mabunda if you are truthful in scriptures you will always find slavery in Bible. If i will quote it will be article. Simple Bible promotes slavery. Even today #Blacklivesmatter we seen in USA. Our prophet & sahabas freed slaves. You can easily find in Hadiths. Your scolers will never tell and appreciate that.
Thank you Adnan Rashid Sir For Showing this really helpful Alhamdulilah BOOSTED MY IMAN ALLAHU AKBAR
The ambiguity left by YQ during the interview is just unacceptable considering his level. He should clarify the issues he stumbled during the interview. First the Yazuz-Majuj theory, now on Quran preservation, you cannot just mess up with classical view, while you do not have any reasonable "Modern" explanation either. With all due respect, I also don't understand why YQ is so obsessed with what western secular scholars are thinking and it seems YQ is trying to align the islamic matters in a way that will be less criticized by them. After watching him for so many years, it is just frustrating.
He had a previous interview with Mohammed Hijab where he clarified his stance on Yajuj and Majuj. I don't necessarily agree with him on his stance, but I wouldn't call him a deviant in this respect (not saying that you're calling him a deviant).
As for his ambiguity, I think he simply didn't want to give a short answer. Even Ustad Adnan took 2 hours and 30 min to fully explain everything on the issue.
The reason this became a controversy in the first place was due to another brother who you probably know leaking a private email, so there might be more to the issue.
@Atlantic Antiques I am not sure what are you talking about provided that i am in academia for more than 10 yrs with a PhD. Do your research first, instead of quoting here and there without context and proper explanation. Are you aware about the responses given by our scholars regarding your above points? Islamic scholars never shy away from these topics as brother Adnan mentioned. Don't stress on what Western "scholars" say about islam, they always pick from here and there without any context and what our scholars have commented on those. Any islamic study that does not fit with their narrative, they consider as unreliable. Our scholars have done extensive work to show how Quran was preserved, and they dealt with each of the points you have mentioned above. Just do a proper research (I have done mine). Classical Islamic scholars never had doubt on the preservation of the Quran. Yes, they differed on how the later readings relate to the Ahroof. By the way, for some, even one presents a mountain of evidence, they will be still be in denial and doubts.
@ YQ had the highest marks from Medina University among his class, and he was the first American to score so highly. You may disagree with him, but you can't deny his credentials.
Is this the last bastion where the lie of preservation is kept?
So many triggered Christians coming here to post their fabrications and lies .... do you guys even read your own bible cover to cover?
Thanks to people who made the reading of el Koran easy-to-use.l would not be able to read the ancient Koran.l know that the Koran has never been modifiedوالحمد لله. But the ancient writing is difficult.
May Allah swt. Grant u Jannatul Ferdous ameen ☺️💕
Please continue this work. Anti-Islam content is on the rise, and it's full of misleading content. We need to target the lies and misinformation one by one.
I know a few people who actually get mislead by their content. Please make sure the title's of the videos are appropriate. When people have doubts over certain aspects of Islam, they should be easily able to find the video!
Many Muslim brothers go for catchy titles, they've got great content but irrelevant titles. People looking for answers wouldn't be able to find them that way.
Can you explain how it is a lie when they are using Islam sources to prove that the Quran has been corrupted? th-cam.com/video/LfgV9cNf1vc/w-d-xo.html
Christy Ming can you watch the actual video - it will answer your question.
@@christyming9020 Many Muslim youtubers have already explained this in great detail
Jazakallah khair for the clarification . I cannot thank you enough .
After a recent interview with Br. Muhammad Hijab, some missionaries and anti-Muslim propagandists have read their own prejudices into our very brief discussion. Some of them have twisted my words to suit their agenda. While Muslim scholarship has pioneered Quranic studies for centuries and continues to do so, the fact remains that we all agree on the demonstrably proven fact that the Quran has been preserved in its entirety, word for word, and that we believe that all of the ten recitations (qira'āt) of the Quran are revealed from Allah. To see such Islamophobes try to read in an argument that no one amongst us ever made in order to prove their incorrect narrative is only demonstrating the unethical tactics they resort to.
Here is a beautiful example of this from a post from a few years ago:
Watch this serpent in action. Look at who is the compulsive, pathological and malicious liar is in this video. I'm so glad Adnan got on camera and continued to speak out of his backside cos now his very words have come back to hurt him 10 fold.
Can Adnan even attempt to engage with this and his bold face lies?
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Tahir, Adnan is lying at your face. th-cam.com/video/vXWCw-o9rv8/w-d-xo.html check your self and don't blindly believe
It would be great if you use visual means such as slides with drawings to emphasize and clarify the information you provide. This gives a clear take home message that stays in the minds of students and that is easy to understand and remember.
Maa shaa Allah, very important video but others have to be made to help address the relentless attacks on all aspects of Quranic text. I think that Shaykh Adnan missed out stating that variant readings is also connected to Tafseer. I await more similar videos.
37 different arabic qurans Like you don’t understand English, he was speaking about the Quranic manuscripts lodged in the Hussayni Mosque in Cairo, Egypt. Where that specific copy was “99%” with al Fatihah, the first chapter and the beginning of the second chapter, Baqarah. But as regards “the Quran” we do indeed have it complete because while something was missing with the Quran in Egypt, other manuscripts have those missing parts. Listening is indeed an art.
Does anyone know where I could buy the second edition of "The History of the Quranic Text, from Revelation to Compilation: A Comparative Study with the Old and New Testaments"?. I have the first edition on pdf, but I'd rather buy a paper copy. I've looked on Amazon but they have it listed at an extortionate price for some reason + there's a very long shipping wait. Anyone know where I could get hold of this quickly and at a reasonable price???
Good work brothers.. Jazakallahu Khairan
جزاك لله خير اخي عدنان🌹
Salamu alaikum warahmatullahi wabarakatuh I have a question it's about the topic of Qoran preservation you said 3 years ago in a live stream where you spoke against Dr Yasir Qadhi that the Qoran has been standardized by danger in Quraysh dialect but how did you do it if Zaid and the other 3 could endanger the Quraish dialect, but they could not harm the rest of the Ahruf and how could they then standardize everything in the Quraish dialect. Could you please answer me it is very important to me personally For Allah swt may Allah make paradise Al firdaus possible for you ALLAHUMME AMIN
For Christians in comment section. Does this make sense that you have god with 3 heads plus he’s 100% man and 100% god. Which means you have 4 gods and one man🤣🤣🤣
Muslim think 1+1+1. God's people understand God as 1 x 1 x 1= 1 Christian's trinity is higher and make better sense.
abdul hidayat father said in old testament that they is no other god beside him so he’s either lying or trinity is fake chose one. Plus Jesus said father is the “only” true god. Only means exclusively single and they is none beside him
@@howtodoit4204 How arrogant of you as human to think you can comprehensively understand God? The creator of the universe? Have you no shame? Have you no humility human? We can only understand what he choose to reveal. Don't make God in your own image.
@@howtodoit4204 Do you believe Qur'an is eternal and uncreated?
abdul hidayat yea the words of the Quran not the book and the paper
1:10:33
Why did brother Adnan miss out the word قل?
If قل was missed out, how can we understand this further?
This makes sense جزاك الله خيرا
You should divide the vedio into parts like part 1 and part 2. It is hard to sit with a vedio for 2 hrs.
That's simple. Pause and come back
@@BlurredFiction Lol. Exactly what i intended to say... 😂
I wish this video had been at least 4 hours
Adnan.... so are you going to become a Christian now? You said so back in 2013 if there were differences in the Quran AND THERE ARE that you would become a Christian? So I expect you to pronounce that Jesus is LORD right here and right now!
For those who don´t remember, the internet does not forget.
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TOTALLY DEBUNKING EVERYTHING ADNAN SAYS BY HIMSELF!)
You have been OWNED Adnan. I will keep posting this over and over untill you convert to Christ! The JIG IS UP!
You are a filthy LIAR accusing others of lying. You are a sinner! Now repent and accept Jesus as your SAVIOR!!!
Hallelujah!!!
Is not on cinema, there is a pause button.
I only agree with Adnan Rashid n montgomery watt that what we have in our hand is the authentic Uthmanic (pubs) Quran with minor variations in the qira at . as our Bro Rashid agree with Mr watt said Uthman`s commmission start doing Allah work and decided what to include in this new Quran and what to excluded. in plane word what we have is a political Quran what wet see is the Quran of Muhammad? . sorry instanto its partially lost, thanks bro Adnan keep up the good work [video time 1:29:10]
Brother Adnan, I'd really like you to do a video refuting Fred Donner's claims on the origins of Islam, that would be very needed! Jazaka Allahu khayran for your efforts!
Thank you, sir adnan rashid and imran Hussein. I highly appreciate your efforts you guys just cleared my doubts.
the truth - th-cam.com/video/LfukiS8mxwc/w-d-xo.html
1:16:59
The Ayah is:
(فَإِنۡ ءَامَنُوا۟ بِمِثۡلِ مَاۤ ءَامَنتُم بِهِۦ فَقَدِ ٱهۡتَدَوا۟ۖ وَّإِن تَوَلَّوۡا۟ فَإِنَّمَا هُمۡ فِی شِقَاقࣲۖ فَسَیَكۡفِیكَهُمُ ٱللَّهُۚ وَهُوَ ٱلسَّمِیعُ ٱلۡعَلِیمُ)
[Surat Al-Baqarah 137]
Mashallah I wish this video was 10 hours long!! Absolutely amazing! Please do more parts inshallah it cleared up a lot of confusion alhamdulillah
Salaam syeikh Adnan, please recommend us some books to read on this topic
@Ornando Dijks thanks brother, i have this book already. I wonder if there are any other books out there
I didnt need to see this to believe, the quran that we have now is enough for me to believe it is from Allah.. this kind of discoveries are not for us believers... it for the non believers .. for the haters also.. al hamdolilah for islam
I have one question, if the Quran was standardized in the Qureshi dialect by Uthman and was distributed widely, why do we still have variances in the words what is being read in part of North Africa. I am not discounting that the variances/ways to recite were allowed by the Prophet pbuh but if it was standardized why are they still different. For eg: the differences between hafs and warsh.
I am very surprised harsh words used in criticising others. I thought people don't do that in England. In the House of Commons such words will not be allowed by the Speaker of the House.
Bismillah. ... ..
We all know the Quran is Divinely Protected as befitting ALLAH's Majesty.
Hence the Sunnah is protected in many means by ALLAH's Permission such as via the Orthadox 4 Sunni Madhahib, Mujaddids over a time of a millenium, ijma, orally preservation which is still practise till today by pious Ulama e Haq, while also within our Sacred Literary such as Ahadith Sharif and other factors of Islamic discipline, to such gaurding of the (Quran&)Sunnah,
such as the manhaj of the Ahlus Sunnah Wal Jama'ah as codified within the adherence to one of the Aimma Imams Madhab in all its rulings by all Muqallid to their Mujtahid fi'l shari' Imam (whom are of the people with insurance from ALLAH's Rasul S. as they are the salaf as Salehin themselves)
Thence, all matters outside of the Sunni Madhabs is sectarianism, which leads to those other deviant sects as within the Prophecies of RasulULLAH's Ummah (sallALLAHU alayhi wa sallam)
And ALLAH and HIS Rasul knows best
As the Sahabah radiaALLAHU anhuma would believe to know and say.
Hahahaha you all will eventually come around. Wake and accept the fact that you've been lied to. Quran was cooked up by Mo Mo.
The only miracle about d quran is that it fools all muslims.
The most obvious dubious, fake, devilish, plagiarized book/recitation of all time .Quran deserves an award for being a legitimate fraud
Atlantic Antiques Seeing how you are copying and pasting all over the comment section, I decided to paste my responses to you as well.
I am happy you bring all those early Muslim sources which confirm the Quran was written down during the life of the prophet. But you only mentioned specific narrations and you omitted others. This doesn’t show the full picture, and it wrongly makes it appear that a single person was responsible for the decision of what went in the written copy. Or, there was some sort of foul play. You also assume the prophet somehow taught people the Quran verses without teaching them the order, or clarifying what verses to include and what verses to not include. But this is incorrect. It’s very well known that verses were abrogated. People have studied about this and many books are written about the subject during the past millennium. You can also find evidence in the stories narrated about the prophet, and also the Quran itself makes clear reference in chapter 2 verses 106
“We do not abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten except that We bring forth [one] better than it or similar to it. Do you not know that Allah is over all things competent? (106)
When talking about prophet Mohammed companions, I am not sure you recognize they are the disciples of prophet Mohammed. They are the people who intimately learned from, lived with, asked questions to and heard the sermons of prophet Mohammed never mind fought along his side. Those people formed a public committee, invited everyone in the entire community to participate, insured the authentication of each verse required at least two sworn eye and ear whiteness, checked the memorized verses against the written verses, then after having finished the compilation checked it against the copy Abu Bakr compiled earlier, then invited the entire community of believers to double check and object if they had any issues. All those discussions are preserved in the same sources you seem to have selectively partially quoted.
It was a communal effort, and people who are motivated by faith tend to place the fear of God above anything. So I am quite confident that if at the time one or few people attempted to corrupt the compiled Quran, others would have called them out. The very existence and preservation of the discussions related to this period is living proof of the authenticity and sincerity of the effort that went into compiling the Quran. If someone wanted to hide something, they wouldn’t have invent it this way.
If you are Christian, I want you to honestly reflect on this point and Imagine if the disciples of Jesus Christ (peace be upon them all) canonized a single gospel by doing the same thing instead of leaving four different gospels attributed to them at a later date (For the sake of not over stretching the point, I will not get into the difference between the four gospels themselves, or the differences between the synoptic gospels and John's gospel or the apocryphal manuscripts).
The second point is The variants in the Quran is something that was recognized in the early centuries as different readings that the prophet used that were reported by different people. The entire text of the Quran is identical, but in some verses, while the entire text of the verse is intact, there are minor differences in particular words (mainly synonyms) and sometimes different prepositions
All Qurans produced after are from those recognized readings to this day. And also anything outside of those accepted readings is rejected to this day.
It’s not the case for the the New Testament, as based on my research, variants were first recognized by Erasmus in the sixteenths century when he started working on the Textus Receptus, and later on it picked up more scholarly attention. So unless what I said was totally false, it would NOT be comparable to the Quran variants that were said to have been heard from the prophet himself and date back to the first century. (And carbon dated manuscripts confirm that).
T. S. Thank you for your response, but I believe you have taken a defensive position in trying to defend the Gospels (which wasn’t at all the main subject of my post) and you missed out on the main points I was trying to convey in response to what this “Atlantic Antique” username has been copying and pasting all over the comments section. This person didn’t even bother to watch the videos in full, go through and verify the evidence given in the video or to at least tried to objectively understand. Instead, this person jumped into posting the type of claims that reflects badly on this person’s character and the religion this person represents and ethical standards this person holds himself accountable to.
For anyone with basic knowledge, it’s clear what this person is doing is very deceptive and shows a lack of moral integrity. But also based on my experience, these type of people will automatically reject logic and proof, and prefer to stick to listening to someone who feeds them the information they want to hear and believe rather than bother to objectively try to learn the truth because the simple fact is:
1. If this person knows the facts and fuller picture and still decided to present the argument the way it was presented above, then it’s clear to me this person is a lying fraud and will not respond to logic or evidence because this person’s deception is intentional.
2. If this person doesn’t know the facts and fuller picture and is only repeating someone else’s argument, then despite this person’s laziness, there maybe a benefit in showing this person the absurdity of the logic used in the post which justifies contrasting it to the Biblical equivalent.
I will try to summarize my points as follows:
1. This person explicitly suggested the claim of missing verses by selectively picking stories without paying attention to either the authenticity or any other views. Rationally speaking don’t you think if what this person said was valid, Muslims would not have investigated any of it? What this person is doing is deliberate suppression of evidence which is fraudulent.
2. Since the information was presented with no basic background information or explanations of what Muslims historical sources or scholars actually say, because that would immediately explain all of it. So it must be either done out of complete ignorance or deliberately. Either way it makes this person look bad.
3. The only way I believe it’s possible to explain the argument used by this person is to draw a parallel and contrast it to a familiar setting which means a parallel comparison to the history of the New Testament. If this person is ignorant, maybe it will lead to a better understanding, and if it was a deliberate deception attempt, it would show everyone else the quality of this person’s reasoning and evidence.
I don’t care to take a view on the Gospel or play a game of “my scripture is better than yours”, it boils down to holding people like “Atlantic Antique” accountable to their own claims.
As for your post, please read my previous post again (I will be happy to post additional lectures) in addition to watching the very video above itself which I believe are sufficient to address your points. Please also do investigate all claims independently (but please stick to academic sources and stay away from apologetics). The following video may be beneficial to help you grasp what Muslims actually believe (not what many Christian apologetics tell you Muslims believe), because it contrasts Islam to Christianity
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I genuinely am not concerned with what you believe or don’t believe, this is your choice and I respect that. But It’s not for me, and that’s based on research and conviction, but each one of us will be held accountable by our Divine Creator independently, therefore I more concerned about myself, my own beliefs and my own actions to achieve my own salvation.
If you have additional points or clarifications, let me know.
T. S. I totally understand.
Anyone who says they don’t sympathize with your position given the general climate and the content of information out there and process of information decimation would not be placing themselves in your shoes. I just think it’s weird you never stopped to ask yourself “How come Muslims don’t see what we see and why?”
Look since you are being honest, I have to tell you I am neither surprised nor caught off guard by your reply. At this stage the usual script is I go on the defensive, and you reiterate the same over consumed allegations and it ends up like every other comments section.
At this stage I see both camps using the same accusations and same refutations, it’s at a stage people are copying and pasting (myself included) without even being conscious of the content of their posts (let alone taking actual time to reasonably consider, research, verify or think about it). The issue is exasperated however, with the abundance of channels that decimated as well as enforce false accusations, so as if it’s not bad that people are not stopping to think and verify, they are being fed more misinformation. So unless people start choosing to consciously verify and research, I would say, it’s an action that they choose to participate in, which subsequently they have to justify to their Divine Creator.
I personally don’t play that game
Please note that Character assassination of prophet Mohammed is the first go to tactic that people have used in the past 1441 years.
Those character attacks were proven as lies during the time of the prophet, because people around him saw him behaving differently to what those character assassins were saying. So in a nutshell, it’s human behavior that continues to this day which we see everywhere around us ranging from today’s politics to immature teenagers. When people are unable to win, they put down the winners with gossip and spread false rumors about them. It says more about the inadequacy and incompetence of the person doing it, while not hurting the image of the winner by any means.
After the prophets passing, people didn’t stop, and let’s be honest, they never will. But their attempts were repeatedly refuted many times over by both scholars and regular people using solid evidence that you can look up. But If we are being totally honest, after having readyour post about the Quran in modern Arabic, I am not expecting you to undertake any serious scholarship. Please forgive me, but I genuinely did think that post was hilarious 😂 🤣 🤣 😂
But moving to the next issue: I fundamentally disagree with your conclusion about the compilation of the Bible vs Quran, I see them as having had two different distinct histories although that doesn’t necessarily place me in support of the “the Bible is totally corrupted camp” nor do I subscribe to “the Bible is the world of God camp”. I don’t think it’s verbatimly preserved, yet I would say what the Quran says “it contains guidance and light” and I stick to the Quran as the criterion for me.
My basis on comparatively judging between the two books was how much of it’s content is satisfying my existential questions. And as you can verify: the Quran is the winner for me.
As I mentioned above, I research things for my own benefit. I try to be as much objective as my subconscious indoctrination allow me, and I succeeded in challenging some of my accumulated prejudices but also enforced others but ended up developing a much deeper understanding of why those ideas emerged to begin with, but as I outlined before, convincing others is not a priority for me.
I like how non-muslims try to use vowel marks to show that the Quran isn't preserved. Vowel marks are simply added to help non-Arabic speakers to read the Quran, from what I understand the vowel Mark's aren't even needed for fluent Arabic speakers. Next thing we'll see is non-muslims complaining that colour-coded Qurans show that the Quran isn't preserved lol.
Yasir Qadhi said the Quran preservation topic is suppose to be secret that is discussed only among scholars or people of knowledge, not among people with little knowledge.
Yasir qadhi is talking about the different recitations not the preservation of the Quran. He believes the Quran is preserved 100%
Sovereign Soul I agree with you 100%. That was what I understood when I watched his interview with Mohammed Hijab. Yasir Qadi said verbatimly the Quran is the world of Allah and it’s 100% preserved.
If he said we teach this information to advanced students, why do you say it’s secret?
Why don’t you become an advanced student and learn about it yourself?
Your comment is exactly why I think Yasir Qadi was careful not to discuss information without going into deep details, because people either totally misunderstand or they edit out his words to spread false information. So please try to understand it from this new perspective.
Remember christian apologetics are already editing out his video in a fake manner to spread lies. I always wonder which part of Christianity gives those apologetics the authority to use lies and deception
@@yusufnasiru1709 Actually they talked about preservation of the Quran.
Here is a quote from the subtitles file.
Time: 01:16:40
"He released his big big video about the leaks of some kind of email chat that you involved in about preservation of Quran"
Ishaq Ibrahim This is why I suggested if you are unsure you can attend his class because in the video in exactly 1:31:18 Dr Yasir Qadi explicitly says “I will not hide anything, the Quran is the world of God, the Quran has been preserved”
MashaAllah. May Allah reward the brothers for this effort. The muslims have nothing to hide - our narrative has always been the same . Allah will continue to preserve this book until right before the end of times.
This is why I love Adnan.
For lying and covering the truth with white wash.
Stupid Adnan.
for telling a lie -the truth - th-cam.com/video/LfukiS8mxwc/w-d-xo.html
You're referring to or blaming Christian missionaries discrediting the preservation of the Quran when it's now coming from your own scholars and they are now giving facts about variances, twist it as much you like it, it's too late, deception is over, certainly, the BEST of DECEIVER cannot continue to deceive for long.
*Why the existence of different qira'at does not prove the Qur'an is corrupted:*
As Muslims we admit that the Qur'an has variant readings. These variant readings are called qira'aat. They have all been revealed by God and the prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be on him) recited the Qur'an with all of those variant readings. However, if your argument is that these variants have appeared as a result of errors due to scribes making changes to the Qur'an or people mishearing or mispronouncing the Qur'an as it was passed down orally, why is it that no Muslim scholars have ever debated with each other as to what the correct wordings are for the Qur'an? Why has the Qur'an never been through a process of textual criticism, where scholars are uncertain about the text and are debating with each other to produce a text as close to the original as possible? This has obviously happened for the Bible and other texts, but never in history has this ever happened for the Qur'an. Also, if the Qur'an is corrupt, wouldn't we expect each qira'ah to have its own versions, such as different versions of hafs or warsh or susi? Rather, each qira'ah is preserved - no two muslims in the world disagree on the hafs qira'ah or the warsh qira'ah or the duri qira'ah, etc.
So in summary Quran was revealed in 7 different forms and those forms each had some recitation methods. Some of those 7 forms were destroyed in wars. And the remaining forms had different recitations. Later on Qureishi form was chosen as the standard form by Uthman rh and was written down (Probably we have access to more than 1 form today since there are differences in text as well). And at the time there were many recitation methods. And this continued till around 100 ago when Hafs recitations was also chosen as the standard recitation.
This explains christians' claims about different Qurans being out there. And when it's said that quran is preserved and there is one quran. It means the Quran that is read today by majority of muslims gets its textual form from the manuscript written by Uthman rh and its oral form (recitation) from hafs which are approved by the prophet saw and all the muslims.
I want to completely understand this matter. Please correct me if i'm wrong and haven't understood the matter correctly.
Q1. But which one of these 7 is preserved in Laohe Mahfuz?
Q2.What gave Right to Uthman to Standardize Quran when Muhammad (s) Himself said 7 forms are prmissible?
I'm not here to argue.I am confused too.Quran was supposed to be only one and perfectly preserved in Laohe Mahfuz. It was supposed to be a Miracle.But Quran isn't only one according to Muslim scholars! how do the MIRACLE part still stand?!
Adnan Rashid very well said 👍🏻 👍🏻 👍🏻
Please make a short video to summarize the clarification you mentioned at @2:12:58 citing references showing that it was God revealing the variants in أحرف and/or قراءات.
Thank you! جزاك الله خيرا
الحمد لله
At 2.17:01 you say Maalik And Malik just to confirm what category does this variation fall under ? The reading Qirat or the Ahruf ?
It's a variant reading stemming from the Ahruf only when it is vocalized, MAALIK or MALIK are both been authentically reported and preserved from prophet Muhammad pbuh.
The Uthmani preserved Mushaf/Quran was transcribed NEUTRALLY so it can accommodate these variant styles of reading by the different tribes even clans within the tribes. Many tribes had clans within them and the prophet's tribe Quraysh had 10 main clans.
The tribes and clans, not all but some had minute differences on how they pronounced certain words, Just the way today English within Britain is spoken very differently across the country and also have their own dialects such as Scots, Scouse, Cockney, etc,
Brits and Americans have a long list of words that are not only pronounced differently but are also spelled differently such as (Brits) ALUMINIUM and (US) ALUMINUM similarly the Arabs had variants among them especially at a time when language was not standardized.
One would need a good understanding of the complex nuances of the ARABIC language to comprehensively understand and acknowledge that it does not have any significance on the Qur'ans preservations nor do these "Ahruf/styles/dialects/variants" in any way contradict the meaning.
I hope I have made it clear enough.
Laila Ansari jzk sister
It would be better if some of the Arabic terms were rendered into English for greater clarity. For example, "Ahrouf" should be referred to as articulation or pronunciation or elocution. Thus the 7 modes should have been discussed as 7 ways of articulation or pronunciation etc. Instead of merely stating "Warsh" or "Hafs" etc repeatedly examples of these should have been given for illustration.
@Atlantic Antiques - here is a scholarly account which although is a long and involved read debunks your claims: thedebateinitiative.com/2015/07/08/a-critical-analysis-of-jay-smiths-mistakes-about-the-quran-2/amp/
Aslam alikom brother i have a question that do we have the ahruf preserved to this day if not than Allah SWT promised to that we have sent reminder and we shall protect it please brother clarify it to me and i didn’t understand 2:13:53 the ahruf has no bearing on Quran and
As salamu alaykum brother
It is true that some ahruf are not preserved, but the Qur'an still has not changed because the text of the Qur'an that we have today is exactly the same as one of the 'versions' revealed to the prophet Muhammad (peace and blessings be on him). Also, the ahruf only account for minor differences in the text such as spelling of words or synonyms and they don't contradict anything we have in our text today like the different versions of the Bible contradict each other. I hope this makes sense. Does that answer your question?
@@tahaali2732 JazakAllah khaira
Asalaam alaikum I would appreciate a highlights of the main points jzk
The recent controversy is NOT because Yasir Qadhi said some things during an interview that was picked up and abused by third parties. The controversy is caused by a couple of angry, conniving Muslims who provided the evidence that Muslim scholars cannot prove perfect preservation.
The 'preservation' discussion started in a forum for Islamic students and scholars where Yasir Quadhi sent some messsages about reconciling the elements of 'human transmission' and some picked up on this. 2 decided not to confront Yasir Qadhi or simply explain what he saw wrong and how this could be reconciled. Instead they decided that his heresy was serious enough to show it to the world and they leaked Yasir Qadhi's messages to the world to show how deviant his thinking was. This led to discussions etc. but later on it was decided to feed Muhammed Hijab questions he should ask Yasir Qadhi that were designed to expose YQ's repulsive way of thinking. The idea was that Muslims would see through him for what he was and he would expose his true nature. Thhe interview was held and the ploy was successful in the sense that YQ was cornered about whether he could fill a blank Quran with the direct word of god.
The leaked emails were only seen by a few, but the video caught attention.
Many Muslim apologists are angry because of YQs soundbytres ('hooles in the narrative' being the most easily quotable). But what many overlook is that the strength of a highlly-respected scholar being declared a heretic by some of his colleagues is very clear evidence that there is a problem that is so strong that idealists go behind his back to 'expose' his 'thought crimes'. The facrt that YQ tried to defend himself to the more moderate Muhammmed Hijab by opening up was not YQs fault but MH and Farid's design.
This means that YQ can try to rephrase what he wanted to say, can reaffirm his beliefs in doctrine and dogma, and it all will not help.
1. The current collection of some 40 different variants is going to prove impossible to solidly prove to science as 'perfectly preserved'. So that claim will remain untenable in the scientific world. There are too many gaps, too many uncertainn factors too manny small issues to claim it is the direct word of god. The only way to claim it is as dogma/doctrine. Muslims are free to believe and preach it, but scientifically speaking it is not proven and never will be.
2. A miracle should be something that is easily visible/understandable that convinces people. The Quran is too complex to be called a miracle. If one could fill one empty Quran with the direct word of god: maybe. But all the current variants all being accepted aas part of the Quran is just too much. It is possible to memorize one variant, but how many can be memorized without getting confused and mixing them up? . If one cannot memorize multiple versions how did the chains reflect the variants? If the chains did not reflect the variants how did the scribes make sure there was no confusion? How many people were needed to memorize all the versions?
This is Worth watching .
wow, nice video and absolutely clear video. Thank you for this wonderful video
Can you please comment on the statement you read concerning the "authenticity" of a few of the verses being questioned at @1:33:19
I am going to watch full video
This fake trinity Christianity should be stopped...
Ali gaming khan don’t respond to T S, let him bark .
A list of 20 ARABIC LANGUAGE QURANS. The QURAN is NOT perfectly PRESERVED to the smallest detail! These ARABIC LANGUAGE QURANS are ALL different in MAJOR and MINOR points!
1) Hafs (1924) version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in Muslim world in general
2) Warsh version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in Algeria, Morocco, parts of Tunisia, West Africa and Sudan
3) Qalun version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in Libya, Tunisia and parts of Qatar
4) al-Duri version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in parts of Sudan and West Africa
5) Hisham version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in parts of Yemen
6) Ibn Dhakwan version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in parts of Yemen
7) Khalaf version: Read,memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
8) Khallad version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
9) al-Duri version: Read,memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
10) Abu'l-Harith version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
11) Ibn `Ayyash version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
12) al-Bazzi version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
13) Qunbul version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
14) al-Suri version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
15) Ibn Wardan version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
16) Ibn Jamaz version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
17) Ruways version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
18) Rawh version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
19) Ishaq version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
20) Idris al-Haddad version: Read, memorized and recited by Muslims in various regional locations
@T. S. The original Quran was recited from the very first century of Islam. The same Quran is still being recited. Do your proper research. Your only embarrassing yourself over here.
@T. S. So because the Bible is in modern English its corrupted your saying? What kinda logic is this? Quran has been saved in the memories of many men. We dont need a book to recite or read it. Do you understand this. Unlike the Bible you need to choose the Catholic version, Protestant version or Jehovas Bible. A complete mess as the Bible went trough time. Copy mistakes, forgery texts, ect ect.
T. S. I cant believe you actually posted this. Do you have any idea how dumb and ignorant you sound? Please go to anyone who actually speaks Arabic and ask them.
My native language is Arabic. I also memorized parts of the Quran and it’s in the same 7th century Arabic language. Changing a single word deliberately is considered blasphemous.
What are you thinking? did you actually think you can get away with lying to Muslims to their face?
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Why should muslims not cross the 'red line'? Crossing the 'red line' is what results in a deep understanding of the underlying issues. A crossing the 'red line' mentality is why the West have excelled in innovation leaving the Islamic world far behind.
Now, the Shias brought out with prove that there were 17000 ayath, where as you are claiming only 6234. How it will be matched?
Wow, that a lie!
Mashaallah tabarakallah ya Adnan Rashid, love you for the sake of Allah. Could you make a history coverage video on freemasonry through Quran and sunnah it's origins and such?
انا اريد دراسة التاريخ الاسلامى ولكن تواجهنى مشكلة المصادر فحينما نقرأ للمؤرخين المسلمين فهناك دائما شبهة التجميل وانهم يجملون الحضارة الاسلامية واما المستشرقون فمن المعروف حقدهم على الحضارة الاسلامية ومحاولة التشكيك فى تقدمها فهل هناك من المصادر ما يكون محايدا ينقل الحقيقة كما هى ويكون مقبولا لدى الجميع ؟ ارجو الرد