Yeah how to get killed. Any forestry program would never teach a student to cut like that. Every tree he cuts is a widow maker because he's doing it wrong.
You asked about police in the bush. We have a faller certification program. It is guided by the BC Forest Safety Council. Not certified? No work! I am a Forestry and Faller Supervisor through their program. We have certain falling standards and techniques that have proven to be safe methods. These standards are written in blood. Blood spilled by those who made unfortunate mistakes. We strive to teach fallers to avoid those mistakes. We have daily and weekly faller inspections and procedures for correcting unsafe work practices. It's a huge program and it's there to protect our workers. The techniques you've shown would get you and your supervisor fired instantly! Neither of you would be going back to work without retraining. Regards, Harm.
Here in the US trees are farmed, note the young trees ready to replace the old, Great Britten needed all of her trees to defend her country, Now trees there are farmed. Face it trees are a great renewable resource that we need to use intelligently.
Nice job of felling but back in the day we did it with an axe and a 2 man cross cut then put the wedges to it and they be some big Ash and oaks here in NJ . What's with ale the cables and skidder pushin' on 'er ?
I believe this is the Sorren Erickson method of cutting wood. I saw it about 10 years ago here in Mass. I never used it, it is really slow. They were pushing for everyone to take it. He used that last little piece to supposedly hold the tree safe so you could wedge the tree. The machine pushing the tree is called a "Power Wedge" Works better with a pusher on the arch.
As a semi-retired logger I watched this video and have to agree with some comments being mentioned. Although this was a machine assisted felling operation I would never walk around the front of a tree after felling cuts have been implemented. Its just not safe practice. The remaining stumps show pulled draw wood which indicates the step was either too low or non-existent. Cutting the slovenge would now need to be slightly longer so as to leave a solid wood stem. Forest owners would see lost revenue from that practice, because the "butt" of every tree holds the most volume, hence the reason tree felling correctly is paramount for maximum log value. On a positive note, beautiful wood being harvested by a solid and very professional chainsaw (Stihl 064 or maybe 044)
He can look away after the tree starts to go because he knows what he is doing and is completely secure in know that he did the job right. All you idiots that act like he is teaching people how to fell need to go back to watching you twerk videos. He is simply showing his technique and by the looks of things he is doing just fine. FYI if you don't know what a bore cut is then don't make comments about tree felling.
But why the bore cut? Those are simple, easy trees to fell without a skidder OR wedges. Those bore cuts are to releive stress, those frees had none. If he knows what he is doing so well, take your watch out and time him. NOT saying speed is correct, just the proper way to fall that type of tree is NOT the way he did it.
That boy needs to go back to school. Bore cutting is a safer way of cutting and controlling the tree. When cutting with this method you can compensate for a lean in the tree. And by not cutting through the entire back of the tree it is still locked to the stump where you can pull your saw out and put a necessary wedge and finally release the back of the tree.
Well, I reckon it worked for him. In our neck of the woods that tree would have been down much faster, however, I dont know if he had power lines, houses, etc.. around him. But it didnt look like it. As long as he's safe, who cares, right?
Yes thats what I call logging. Getting the wood on the ground efficiently and safely. Off label chainsaw procedures are common in logging. Who gives ten shits how he fells the trees as long as he does it with minimal consequences. It also appears theirs no wind if a breeze. Hes on a pretty flat patch. Bore cutting or not hes done it more than once. If not his ass would be limping. The Stihl 441 hes using has had the side cover replaced. But it does sound like its been ported. May be used when he got it too. But hell every so often shit happens. As long as time down involves a bandaid and not an amputation. Im impressed. Keep up the good work. Be safe. Look up to see if shit can drop on you. Try to cut from the shadow side on these straight tops. If the shadow dissappears the trees falling away from you.
I could watch this stuff for hours, nice machine too. I did get a wee shiver when you turned your back and walked away after the last chap with the hammer on the second tree. Cool as fck. But. A pal of mine turned his back on a cut tree and sadly Charlie Bain is no longer with us. I don't want to seem like a couch logger though.
Waow, where is the face cut(the cut that tells the direction that the tree will fall)? where is the hinge(The hinge ensures that the trees falls in the direction set by the face cut)? why is the machine so close to the tree while he was cutting(you should always make sure that you have several unhindered escape routes)?
They're called hard hats and chaps. And this is standard stuff. he faced every one of these trees, creating hinge wood. Every fall was very controlled. He used wedges to secure each tree before he tipped it with the skidder. The skidder just saved him from pounding on the wedges all day.
My dad has cut timber with a saw for many years, and I have cut my share as well. No one was hurt, but I'm curious as to why there was no face cut (notch) as well
xIntoThePitx no, that wasn't a tight area, with a good face, that tree would have came down without a problem.. (and a lot safer than the way the guy did it there)
What I would of gave to fall on flat ground like that. Most of us were using 056 supers,great saws. Of course we didn’t get to have a skidded come along and push trees over.
W H Y did i like this film? At first i thought that it was pointless cutting a single tree using a LARGE machine like that, winch etc. Then i saw that he was doing numerous ones. Yep, i can see that it's a small mans operation. Good on you.
The camera may well distort distances, but it seemed to me that the operator didn't clear enough shit from the immediate work area, leaving trip hazards if the need for a quick getaway ever arose. I'm not a woodsman; however, the owners' manual of a little Stihl saw I had many years ago stressed the need, before felling, to clear an obstacle-free getaway route in case of emergency. Other than that, I appreciated the operator's technique, and the clear, shake-free camera work.
well hello there, a proper set of chains. frankly , many other peeps posting b/s videos on stuck forestry equipment, specially forwarders, should take a lesson from you.
His technique here is a good way to get killed. Is he still alive? How about the tractor? Any trees fall on it yet? How he manages to cut through the tree almost all the way without getting his saw stuck is beyond me. Must have edited out a lot of wedge placement while cutting.
Amen. My heart was in my throat the whole time watching this guy. I kept thinking 'what the hell is he doing?' Why is that skidder right there where it's gonna get crushed? Why does he turn his back to the tree? Did he actually walk between the machine and tree ‘after’ the cut? Where is the face cut? How does he control the fall? Luck? That's insane. The only time I've ever seen a flat cut like that work is when there is a crane to pluck it off the stump. This technique saves some good wood but it's just a matter of time before it kills him.
King Théoden No, only works on medium to large trees. Small trees you cannot do this on. This way is faster(less cutting) and does not create tear out ruining the last meter of log.
It just hit me! If the earth is spinning at 1000 MPH at the equator, then anytime you cut into a tree, it would immediately fall; or, it would immediately bind the saw. The rotation would see to that. So I think you are using some kind of trickery to make the trees stand for so long. I can't see how you would need a wedge hammered in with the world spinning so fast around and all. Is this video fake?
I also noticed how he turned his back on the tree to get tools out of the machine when it was close falling. Wow..maybe i'm missing the "ya had to be there" factor but looks like a guy cutting who's clearly never had a close call or seen someone get cruched by a falling tree. Also , only set his saw clear by a few feet to enter the machine to push it over. Several rookie mistakes from what i saw. Maybe this is a "what not to do" video.
okay video.did your skid toplel end over end 2 days ago? While tram. No shit man you would be afraid of what I face..yes its steep..big reds n huge cherry.n yes 44in white oak...never have cut soft...yes it's very dangerous work.
Well. let's see. No full wrap handle bar. Back barring ( because here no full wrap handle bar, can't turn the saw around and cut) There are several reason not to do so. Kickback and stress on he body. He appears to make one cut straight across the stump then sets a wedge carries on to cut some sort of "undercut" sets another wedge then proceeds to push the tree of the stump. Do you see it jump then slide of the stump? You're not about to tell me he's got control of that tree? Plus a little too much holding wood and you've got a barber chair for a giant. And I don't believe for a moment any one would teach you to fall this way, certainly not a recognized organization. Make a proper, roughly one third of the tree, undercut towards the intended direction of fall, get the back cut started (a little higher than the undercut) set your wedges, finish the back cut so you have the holding wood straight across and level, now drive the wedges if necessary. Perfect and safe. I can see myself on a 50% plus slope getting the skidder to push the trees over for me oh yeah.
i am not a logger but i am a farmer and it’s to much of a risk to equipment to put it in harms way , cutting a tree is not a guarantee that it will fall where u want
Best cable one man cable skidder operation video on TH-cam! This guy is legit and gets it done!
I think he did a pretty good job felling the trees. My back hurts just thinking about climbing on and off that deere all day. hats off brother
Nice work sir, I love the big skidded too. In my 20 years of climbing trees, all my work has been in the city. Would love to drive the big skidder...
Very nice job of showing exactly how it's done. Nice video. Thanks!
Yeah how to get killed. Any forestry program would never teach a student to cut like that. Every tree he cuts is a widow maker because he's doing it wrong.
garygsp3 Where did you learn your expertise?
Great saw and skidder! Excellent video!
with the right equipment it makes the job so easy.
You asked about police in the bush. We have a faller certification program. It is guided by the BC Forest Safety Council. Not certified? No work! I am a Forestry and Faller Supervisor through their program. We have certain falling standards and techniques that have proven to be safe methods. These standards are written in blood. Blood spilled by those who made unfortunate mistakes. We strive to teach fallers to avoid those mistakes. We have daily and weekly faller inspections and procedures for correcting unsafe work practices. It's a huge program and it's there to protect our workers. The techniques you've shown would get you and your supervisor fired instantly! Neither of you would be going back to work without retraining.
Regards, Harm.
Damn straight. I've been out of the woods 20 years and can still see how this logger wouldn't make the cut.
I think you did a great job you are very knowledgeable on your safety
and how to get the job done right.
J.D. and Stihl, as good a combo as you'll get in the bush.
Never seen a tree cut down that way. I been cutting and running a saw for 20yrs but hey it worked be safe out there.
Here in the US trees are farmed, note the young trees ready to replace the old,
Great Britten needed all of her trees to defend her country, Now trees there are farmed.
Face it trees are a great renewable resource that we need to use intelligently.
nothing like a big green wedge,
Nice job of felling but back in the day we did it with an axe and a 2 man cross cut then put the wedges to it and they be some big Ash and oaks here in NJ . What's with ale the cables and skidder pushin' on 'er ?
I believe this is the Sorren Erickson method of cutting wood. I saw it about 10 years ago here in Mass. I never used it, it is really slow. They were pushing for everyone to take it. He used that last little piece to supposedly hold the tree safe so you could wedge the tree. The machine pushing the tree is called a "Power Wedge" Works better with a pusher on the arch.
good job nice equipment and nice wood
Thank you!
As a semi-retired logger I watched this video and have to agree with some comments being mentioned. Although this was a machine assisted felling operation I would never walk around the front of a tree after felling cuts have been implemented. Its just not safe practice. The remaining stumps show pulled draw wood which indicates the step was either too low or non-existent. Cutting the slovenge would now need to be slightly longer so as to leave a solid wood stem. Forest owners would see lost revenue from that practice, because the "butt" of every tree holds the most volume, hence the reason tree felling correctly is paramount for maximum log value. On a positive note, beautiful wood being harvested by a solid and very professional chainsaw (Stihl 064 or maybe 044)
Pushing it with the skidder....... reminds me when I worked for ashpunt. Those were the days .
nice bit of kit
Nice gear and great vid.
that machine they are using is completly bad ass lol
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its called a skidder
Yes ik but this one is more bad ass than the rest lol
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This is called confidence gentleman.
He can look away after the tree starts to go because he knows what he is doing and is completely secure in know that he did the job right. All you idiots that act like he is teaching people how to fell need to go back to watching you twerk videos. He is simply showing his technique and by the looks of things he is doing just fine. FYI if you don't know what a bore cut is then don't make comments about tree felling.
But why the bore cut? Those are simple, easy trees to fell without a skidder OR wedges. Those bore cuts are to releive stress, those frees had none. If he knows what he is doing so well, take your watch out and time him. NOT saying speed is correct, just the proper way to fall that type of tree is NOT the way he did it.
That boy needs to go back to school. Bore cutting is a safer way of cutting and controlling the tree. When cutting with this method you can compensate for a lean in the tree. And by not cutting through the entire back of the tree it is still locked to the stump where you can pull your saw out and put a necessary wedge and finally release the back of the tree.
Yes, I understand that. Been doing it for years. My point is simple, NONE of those trees NEEDED it!!
Mike C. Because it is faster, uses less oil/gas and does not tear out the middle of the tree if you screw up. It is PINE.
Well, I reckon it worked for him. In our neck of the woods that tree would have been down much faster, however, I dont know if he had power lines, houses, etc.. around him. But it didnt look like it. As long as he's safe, who cares, right?
good job 😀
.good job and good tractor
Yes thats what I call logging. Getting the wood on the ground efficiently and safely. Off label chainsaw procedures are common in logging. Who gives ten shits how he fells the trees as long as he does it with minimal consequences. It also appears theirs no wind if a breeze. Hes on a pretty flat patch. Bore cutting or not hes done it more than once. If not his ass would be limping. The Stihl 441 hes using has had the side cover replaced. But it does sound like its been ported. May be used when he got it too. But hell every so often shit happens. As long as time down involves a bandaid and not an amputation. Im impressed. Keep up the good work. Be safe. Look up to see if shit can drop on you. Try to cut from the shadow side on these straight tops. If the shadow dissappears the trees falling away from you.
good job that yu ar doing iz what um doing in zimbabwe now
I could watch this stuff for hours, nice machine too. I did get a wee shiver when you turned your back and walked away after the last chap with the hammer on the second tree. Cool as fck. But.
A pal of mine turned his back on a cut tree and sadly Charlie Bain is no longer with us. I don't want to seem like a couch logger though.
He's a hard worker
Thanks again far as possible
John Deere so strong
like they say down in Georgia "LET THE BIG DOG EAT"
good job and good tractor
Do you guys that cut a lot of pine ever have issues with tar build up on your saw?
If so, do you have any advice for dealing with it?
He may have a very good reason for doing this way but darned if I can think of it.
Sweet Machine....I want one!
Waow, where is the face cut(the cut that tells the direction that the tree will fall)? where is the hinge(The hinge ensures that the trees falls in the direction set by the face cut)? why is the machine so close to the tree while he was cutting(you should always make sure that you have several unhindered escape routes)?
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They're called hard hats and chaps. And this is standard stuff. he faced every one of these trees, creating hinge wood. Every fall was very controlled. He used wedges to secure each tree before he tipped it with the skidder. The skidder just saved him from pounding on the wedges all day.
You can't beat a stihl chain saw !!!!
Yep sweet machine
Wonderful machine
Nice mana
Nice skidder!
This video proves that having a saw and a skidder does NOT make you a logger! This guy is headed for becoming a statistic in the near future!
love the g III
My dad has cut timber with a saw for many years, and I have cut my share as well. No one was hurt, but I'm curious as to why there was no face cut (notch) as well
It's a tight area, the canopy holds the tree erect.
xIntoThePitx no, that wasn't a tight area, with a good face, that tree would have came down without a problem.. (and a lot safer than the way the guy did it there)
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it is because they have it attached to a skidder the skidder is holding it up
He face cut every one of those trees.
What I would of gave to fall on flat ground like that. Most of us were using 056 supers,great saws. Of course we didn’t get to have a skidded come along and push trees over.
Very good! Hongrie.
GOOD JOB
Thanks!
Absolutely beautiful!
Beast
I see the skidder came from Warrior EQ. Was you in TN or GA cuttin hardwood.
Talvez se o cidadão fizesse uma barriga ( entalhe maior) na direção da queda da arvore, ajudava no trabalho. Parabéns pelo trabalho, muito bom.
I need a skidder!
I have no idea from where and how I came to this video... :D
I think you guys are in Windham?! That's my old neck of the woods!
Need an extra hand there ol buddy lol? I got one leg and I used to cut timber.Great job man make that production!!
W H Y did i like this film?
At first i thought that it was pointless cutting a single tree using a LARGE machine like that, winch etc.
Then i saw that he was doing numerous ones.
Yep, i can see that it's a small mans operation.
Good on you.
The camera may well distort distances, but it seemed to me that the operator didn't clear enough shit from the immediate work area, leaving trip hazards if the need for a quick getaway ever arose. I'm not a woodsman; however, the owners' manual of a little Stihl saw I had many years ago stressed the need, before felling, to clear an obstacle-free getaway route in case of emergency. Other than that, I appreciated the operator's technique, and the clear, shake-free camera work.
I have cut trees that way when they have a heavy lean to them, stops them from barberchairing.
Not how I would do it but it works he's getin it done
fuckin dangerous gettin inbtween the ol skid and the trunk dont ya think?
What's the bhp of that beast
Where are you located like the timber
Nice
What’s the point of useing the wedges of your gonna your gonna push it with the skidder
well hello there, a proper set of chains.
frankly , many other peeps posting b/s videos on stuck forestry equipment, specially forwarders, should take a lesson from you.
Tree lives matter.
WOOOOWWW
good
alan its called a bore cut anyone that falls tree should know it!!!
Imagine that how much time he needs to spend to dig around to put the chain on if that tree falls flat to the ground
where is this from?
Maine
He must have never heard of widowmakers!!!!!
We would like to see you use the 088 would work faster safer love the JD.
His technique here is a good way to get killed. Is he still alive? How about the tractor? Any trees fall on it yet? How he manages to cut through the tree almost all the way without getting his saw stuck is beyond me. Must have edited out a lot of wedge placement while cutting.
You sound pretty jelly brah
Amen. My heart was in my throat the whole time watching this guy. I kept thinking 'what the hell is he doing?' Why is that skidder right there where it's gonna get crushed? Why does he turn his back to the tree? Did he actually walk between the machine and tree ‘after’ the cut? Where is the face cut? How does he control the fall? Luck? That's insane.
The only time I've ever seen a flat cut like that work is when there is a crane to pluck it off the stump. This technique saves some good wood but it's just a matter of time before it kills him.
Randy Van Horn Still this is not how you do it usually. And if so then it's only for smaller trees.
King Théoden
No, only works on medium to large trees. Small trees you cannot do this on. This way is faster(less cutting) and does not create tear out ruining the last meter of log.
Nice reply back after 4 monthes, brah.
ok
Good
if we got caught pushing like that we were out of a job right there
Strange way of working. nice skidder
Nice-looking Pine you got there?
if you tie up a skidder for for every sawyer you have in a production job you would go broke.
It takes you long enough to cut the damn thing down
Warrior HQ is in Tuscaloosa Al
good good good
It just hit me! If the earth is spinning at 1000 MPH at the equator, then anytime you cut into a tree, it would immediately fall; or, it would immediately bind the saw. The rotation would see to that. So I think you are using some kind of trickery to make the trees stand for so long. I can't see how you would need a wedge hammered in with the world spinning so fast around and all. Is this video fake?
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I also noticed how he turned his back on the tree to get tools out of the machine when it was close falling. Wow..maybe i'm missing the "ya had to be there" factor but looks like a guy cutting who's clearly never had a close call or seen someone get cruched by a falling tree. Also , only set his saw clear by a few feet to enter the machine to push it over. Several rookie mistakes from what i saw. Maybe this is a "what not to do" video.
Ninja!
chce takie łańcuchy na koła do mojego golfa 2 :P
What are you fools talking about? He clearly notches each tree in the direction he intends to fall it.
okay video.did your skid toplel end over end 2 days ago? While tram. No shit man you would be afraid of what I face..yes its steep..big reds n huge cherry.n yes 44in white oak...never have cut soft...yes it's very dangerous work.
that was different
Well. let's see. No full wrap handle bar. Back barring ( because here no full wrap handle bar, can't turn the saw around and cut) There are several reason not to do so. Kickback and stress on he body. He appears to make one cut straight across the stump then sets a wedge carries on to cut some sort of "undercut" sets another wedge then proceeds to push the tree of the stump. Do you see it jump then slide of the stump? You're not about to tell me he's got control of that tree? Plus a little too much holding wood and you've got a barber chair for a giant. And I don't believe for a moment any one would teach you to fall this way, certainly not a recognized organization. Make a proper, roughly one third of the tree, undercut towards the intended direction of fall, get the back cut started (a little higher than the undercut) set your wedges, finish the back cut so you have the holding wood straight across and level, now drive the wedges if necessary. Perfect and safe. I can see myself on a 50% plus slope getting the skidder to push the trees over for me oh yeah.
Full wrap handlebars are a west coast thing. We don't have those on the east coast.
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Fact: Everyone that comments on TH-cam can do everything better than the people in videos.
Boy I miss doing that....
Ofcourse half of youtube thinks their better loggers than this professional
he is not profesional for sure
idc
qoniu85
i am not a logger but i am a farmer and it’s to much of a risk to equipment to put it in harms way , cutting a tree is not a guarantee that it will fall where u want
Parabéns
The only good thing i can say about this videos is, "chains sharp" and than to follow that would be "couldn't afford a Husqvarna?"