ARE NON-BINARY PEOPLE EVEN REAL???
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ส.ค. 2024
- Hey! Thanks so much for watching.
In this video I somewhat respond to hurtful and mean comments from my reaction video last week. People seem to believe non-binary people aren't real.... where here I am to rant a little about that and maybe show support to a community that definitely needs it (also tw for the comments in the video im about to link because even I get hurt by some of them):
• REACTION TO ARIELLE SC...
Let me know what you think in the comments below!
Here are some ACADEMIC sources. The issues with these is that you usually can only access them if you are subscribed to these journals or part of a university. If you cannot access them, I’m sure when you find them they will at least have the abstract for you to read.
You all want Medical Scientific proof, here you go:
RICHARDS, C; et al. Non-binary or genderqueer genders. International Review Of Psychiatry (Abingdon, England). England, 28, 1, 95-102, 2016. ISSN: 1369-1627.
Bosse, J. D. and Chiodo, L. (2016), It's Complicated: Gender and Sexual Orientation Identity in LGBTQ Youth. J Clin Nurs. Accepted Author Manuscript. doi:10.1111/jocn.13419
Frohard-Dourlent H., Dobson S., Clark B.A., Doull M. and Saewyc E.M. (2016), “I would have preferred more options”: accounting for non-binary youth in health research. Nursing Inquiry, 00: 1-9. doi: 10.1111/nin.12150
Katz-Wise, S.L., Reisner, S.L., White Hughto, J.M. et al. Arch Sex Behav (2016). Self-Reported Changes in Attractions and Social Determinants of Mental Health in Transgender Adults
Elise R. CarrotteEmail author, Alyce M. Vella,Anna L. Bowring,Caitlin Douglass,Margaret E. Hellard andMegan S. C. Lim. 2016. “I am yet to encounter any survey that actually reflects my life”: a qualitative study of inclusivity in sexual health research. BMC Medical Research Methodology
And I know no one cares about to social sciences, but its a REAL thing. I have over 50 articles talking about non-binary identities and people. Here is one of them:
YEADON-LEE, T. What's the Story?: Exploring Online Narratives of Non-Binary Gender Identities. International Journal of Interdisciplinary Social & Community Studies. 11, 2, 19-34, June 2016. ISSN: 23247576.
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Teacher: you need to hand in your homework
Me: Oh no it's ok I'm not real
Emilia Dale if only there were perks to people thinking we aren't real!
Emilia Dale yeah because no gender = nonexistent lmfao.
ME LMAO
Culture and society: are different from biology
Homophobic commenter: everything ever is literally only biology
Ok fine I'll disregard biology for a moment, as far as culture and society why is it that 99% of you special snowflakes are privileged western white kids?
(as a trans guy) i don't understand how other trans people can believe that nonbinary identities don't exist. it's really hypocritical to think that these identities aren't real as opposed to their own when cis people could say the same about binary trans people. plus i believe that "the gender binary/there is only male and female" is a widely western idea, not one actually based in reality or accepted worldwide.
er. no 2 genders is accepted worldwide across all cultures near universally. its not that "nonbinary identities don't exist" its that 90% of the world is "non binary" theyve never been entirely seperate, most people arent entirely one way or the other
I agree with you Noah Lee
Noah Lee Amen
Noah... then you're a bigger moron than everyone else.
There are about 15 societies worldwide that accept more than 2 genders in common life. Gender is a social construct. People can be whatever they want as long as it doesn’t hurt anyone else. End of story. Sorry but that’s the truth not my fault
As a cis-gendered, straight, middle aged mum of 3 children, if I can see that your gender is how you view your inner self, then if someone believes they are non-binary, then THEY ARE NON BINARY.
No two people are the same genetically, so why should we assume that spectrum of gender and sexuality cannot also be infinite? All this male/female, 30/70% stuff just obscures the issue. If you only feel 70% male (regardless of the gender you were assigned at birth), then you are what you believe yourself to be. Whether that's male, non binary, gender queer, or agender. It's your perception of your gender that is important and the fact you feel like that is the 'proof' people seem to be looking for!
Maybe I have a far too simplistic view of this, but as someone who is not part of the LQBTQA+ community, I honestly just think that everyone is an individual and we should just accept how each person wants to be seen.
even as an outsider you are more open ans excepting then many in the community. thank you for being a decent human being, we need more people like this in the world!
Emma Barnard your kids have a fantastic mother
Your children should be very thankful to have you as a mother. :)
I really needed this thank you
I believe i'm god. so... I AM GOD.
I know it was just a passing comment at 13:30 about feminine presenting non-binary people but it honestly made me feel so valid because I've never heard anything even remotely positive about non-binary people who aren't androgynous so thank you so much! I'm in the process of figuring out my identity and I am so glad I found your channel. I hope you have an amazing day and continue to make videos and be a ray of sunshine. You're awesome!
JacquilynRose I’m also a nonbinary person who doesn’t look androgynous. I was assigned female at birth, so I still look very feminine. I’m still trying to work out exactly how I want to look and present my gender, mostly because I really want to pass as gender neutral if at all possible. Maybe we’ll both figure our presentations out at some point soon. :)
I'm an ultra feminine agender person assigned male at birth.
To prove how feminine I am
1. I wear skirts and dresses all the time.
2. I refer to myself as "atashi" when speaking Japanese.
3. I play as female characters in video games when given the choice. (I main Rosalina & Luma in smash ultimate because Rosalina is both a princess and a goddess.)
4. When speaking Japanese, I will use "no yo" at the end of sentences.
Honestly androgyny is so weird. It's weird how if you are afab, your expected to dress masculine to pass and if your amab, you need to dress femininely to pass... did yall miss the point of being nonbinary? We dont identify with our assigned gender so dont hold us to those standards!
Thank you.
That "two genders" video made me want to die, the comments from other trans people invalidating my identity make me want to die, but your acceptance, and knowing I'm accepted? That makes me want to live.
Luka EM why would they make you want to die? You can't expect everyone to simply accept everything thrown at them without convincing reasons or arguments
You know what makes me want to die? People who refuse to grow up who are infantilizing this world with their crybaby whiney agenda trying to force people to treat them like special snowflakes while the rest of us take care of all the Real problems and probably get maimed or killed doing it.
You're going to have a hard time in the real world if a fucking TH-cam video makes you want to die. The first time you have to work a full shift you're going to shit your pants from all the responsibility. Grow up.
Hate Love harsh, but I must say you've got a point, man...
Facts are now offensive?
These people are fucking assholes and ignore them. You are 3000000% valid and so are your emotions and things like that video can be really impactful. Much love
-a transguy
Why can't everyone just love everyone? It's so sad.
Andrew Fornel you are a lovely person and I love that you are spreading all this love for nb people ❤
You seem to love everyone indeed ^^
ZoSo I do I do!!!! ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Andrew Fornel
Sounds great to me :D
Andrew Fornel WHERE IS THE LOVE
I'm non binary and trans. Had surgery, considering hormones. Hey, we exist.
**high-five** :D
johnel ruszki
if you're going to present the science aspect sweetheart at the least have knowledge regarding the science you're referring to 😂 it's not as simple or basic as you seem to think, chromosomes and DNA is far more complex and less direct, and even then, for all we know there could literally be a gene that contributes to transgender identities.
dude, what're you getting so angry about? the fact some people truly do feel this way and will go so far as to get surgery, hormones, etc to feel comfortable?
take a hecking chill pill x'D is it a personal insult/attack to you to identify as anything other than male or female? well, if so, grow up. people will identify as whatever the hell they want, and yelling at them "YOU'RE WRONG!!!" won't do jack shit but get ya all riled up for nothing.
if you SERIOUSLY think sex = gender, then explain to me why a trans person will go to a doctor, be diagnosed with gender dysphoria, and perscribed to transition. DOCTORS.
**sighs and pats your shoulder** ahh, you'll learn, one day~
i can tell somebody hates themselves ;P
By telling you that as a Biology major, I know it isn't as straight forward as that lmao and I'm sick of seeing ignorant people trying to use it to fuel a senseless and hateful "argument". Literally all medical professionals who work in and have put a lifetimes supply of work into working with and understanding transgender and non-binary people, not to mention aid people to transition because it's legally and medically recognised as legitimate? Yet you still flail in the comments section of a youtube video getting triggered by something you don't understand rather than take the opportunity to educate yourself? Sure ok.
This whole topic is SO FRUSTRATING!
Why can't we all just let everyone do their own thing and be happy? As long as no one is harming themselves or others, lets just let people BE THEM! UGH
NON-BINARY PEOPLE ARE REAAAALLLLLLL
sorry for rant
preach babe❤
Because this has now lead to people trying to destroy freedom of speech so their feelings don't get hurt. It's an affront to modern society.
Fuck off hate love, you're so sad you just hate watch things you disagree with and troll people for no reason.
+Readmybumpersticker fuck off yourself, kiddo. I'm sad? No, not really. My mood is pretty neutral. Hate watch? Um, no most of the videos I watch on TH-cam I enjoy. And I'm not trolling anyone. I'm talking about relevant topics and current events and I'm being completely sincere. That's not trolling, do you even know what trolling is?
What's really sad is how everyone who disagrees with me can't back up their claims or defend their arguments so they just get mad and say "fuck off". When I was a kid I was taught to not be reactive to criticism, to take it in stride. I guess they don't teach you kids anything these days.
+Readmybumpersticker I'm not doing this for no reason. This trans trender thing is happening all over the country and it affects actual trans people negatively. It is a concern of mine because I have a personal stake in the matter. I'm sorry if you have a problem with me expressing my concerns but it's part of free speech, which is something I also advocate for....but most of the people here seem to despise free speech.
im nb and im so so grateful for your videos ... i needed this especially today and especially now bc i just saw a lot of shit. sooo idk where im going with this but just know that you make me and my friend far away in russia happy ~ also your new hair looks super good 😊
tima mirov I love you. ❤️
I thought trans = identifying as a different gender from the one you were assigned at birth, which means that technically non-binary people are trans? But like I know NB people who choose to use the trans-term for themselves, and I know NB people who don't.
Yes, that's the definition of trans : not being exclusively the gender you were assigned at birth ("exclusively" because some people are fluid or bigender, etc.) so trans includes non binary people if they identify as such.
Nope, being trans, is transitioning to a different gender, like ftm. If you're non binary, you cannot transition to a non binary person, unless.... I don't know how you'd go about that.
@im going on holiday to Vietnam : no, that's not the definition of trans. Trans is not defined by transition, it's defined as not being exclusively the gender you were assigned at birth. Besides, non binary people can transition to be read as their gender (they/them pronouns, gender neutral titles, you can actually have an X gender marker in some countries etc.) or they can transition to be read as male or female as well, because gender expression and the way society reads you is not the same than gender identity itself. Also some FTM and MTF don't transition.
im going on holiday to Vietnam no, that's wrong. Trans = transgender = identifying as a gender different than the one you were assigned at birth. With your definition, you're basically saying that you can't be trans unless you transition, and that's completely wrong. By your definition, trans singer & TH-camr Ryan Cassata isn't trans since he's not on hormones and probably won't go on hormones.
No, trans means you're transitioning from one binary to the other. It makes literally zero sense to say someone is trans and non-binary at the same time. It's an oxymoron.
being trans has almost become an elitist club and if you're not planning on transitioning, a lot of people don't want you in the community. also, I'm on t right now and I still have doubts so this really really helped me so thank you
Yeah! Some people dont need/want to transition, but may transition socially. Also, surgery can be scary and even dangerous (depending on what is done),or unnecessary if they dont have dysphoria towards that specific part of them, so yeahhh
Oh look, another woman in the comments who claimed they were trans 5 years ago and who still goes by female pronouns because you realized that being "trans" is a fad.
CAN WE PLEASE TALK ABOUT HOW NON-BINARY IDENTITIES HAVE LITERALLY BEEN A PART OF SO MANY CULTURES LIKE FUCK GUYS THIS SHIT'S BEEN AROUND FOR CENTURIES!!!
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Yo wtf? there is pretty much no evidence for that,
ThatJewishKid/AaronDaBaller actually, a great example is ancient Egypt, when they had 3 genders.
+Emily Lanier and yet there's still no scientific evidence to back up the claim. The ancient Egyptians also believed that cats were gods, should we play along with that as well?
Hey there were ancient cultures who sacrificed people to their gods. I guess we should play along with that as well, even though there's no evidence to back up the claims for its benefits. There are cultures right now where women are stoned to death if they are raped. Guess we should play along with that too, right?
Ugh
I'm p sure that a lot of native american tribes had like five genders. Trust me there's evidence, you just got to look for it
As one of your nonbinary viewers, thank you so much for speaking out for us. Visibility and recognition are so important for nonbinary genders.
Cae Herlin I love you. ❤️
+Andrew Fornel thanks for saying this to everyone :)
I love you too♥♡♥♡
How do you expect people to take the idea of "non-binary" seriously when it doesn't even make sense?
Visibility and recognition is ALL you're after, you're all vain narcissistic western white kids with a fake cause to make you feel special.
People do this weird thing where they see someone asking for the same things everyone else has, nothing more, and interpret that as that person trying to be special. It's a thing I've noticed with a variety of social issues. Before you accuse someone of trying to be special, look at what they're asking for and look at the broader social context surrounding that.
I've been feeling really shitty in terms of my identity lately, so thanks for talking about this topic it helped me feel a lil better
burdgese I love you. ❤️
Lol well lots of people out there feel shitty about their lives because they have no food, or no clothes or no shelter.
But yeah your identity is really important.
Grow up.
+moralix well I never made that statement, you're using a logical fallacy. It's called "making shit up that I didn't say".
Oh yeah you must feel really shitty about being a western white person more privileged than 90% of the people on this planet, poor narcissistic you, what ever tumblr fake gender category will you fall into? The identity crisis is real, fuck those starving african orphans!
mrwhopee Buddy, if you care for them so damn much-help them! But you probably don't. And we all know that when those commercials come on, asking for donations to help African children and their families or people, we either change the channel or just full on ignore it.
Don't say something that makes it seem like you care about "The bigger issues!" when in reality, you probably don't. And if you do, it's more like a annoying stain. Jeez, just say you don't agree or somethin'.
as a non binary trans guy i say thank you for speaking out about this :^)
Fay Angel what's a devil? I don't know her.
How are you non binary and trans? That doesn't make sense y'all need to stop trying to make new genders and sexualities
I understand being trans (transitioning) and being non binary but how do you identify as a guy and as nonbinary?
You CAN’T be non-binary AND trans male! 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😂😂😂 A word “MALE” already links to a GENDER! Saying you are “non-binary trans guy” is GRAMMATICALLY ILLOGICAL!! ☝🏻 And non-binary are neither male nor woman. So? 😂 This is dumb AF! 😂 I am a trans male too and I don’t get this shit. 😂😂😂 But these so-called “non-binary” aliens are my entertainment! 👍🏻 😂😂😂 Best joke on this planet who ever existed. *rofl*
I have yet to get a real explanation on how you can not have a gender and have a gender at the same time. I don't want to be rude or invalidate you, I just want to know. People always call me a bigoted transmuted terf instead of explaining their identity.
I can say with 100% certainly that I am real.
Me too 😌💙💖
I'm not, I'm a ghost! WOOOO!! Spooky spectrum of death, not as simple as cis people waant. BOO!
You look like a woman to me, no dysphoria, not trans.
@Haley Donovan There's no set likes or dislikes for gender. Gender isn't determined by clothing, toys, colors, or even activities.
Gender dysphoria is when you're not happy with your gender so you transition to have nothing to do with the opposite gender because it makes you upset. Non-binary does not exist because your gender is not set on appearances, likes, dislikes, etc, and has nothing to do with dysphoria.
K but that doesnt mean your gender is. Dun dun dun
thank you so much for this chase you literally just saved my life. this video is the reason i decided not to kill myself today. i just...idk i love that at least you'll accept me for who i am so thank you so much
Xander Dimitri Laroche ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I hope your life gets to a better place!
Xander Dimitri Laroche I hope you can be happy again soon.
Xander Dimitri Laroche hugs... We Enbies are invalidated all the time ..
stay strong...
Many indigenous cultures around the world still recognize gender and sexual diversity since time immemorial, especially before the advent of christianity and the global onslaught of imperialism.
Multiple societies of Indigenous peoples in the Western Hemisphere (Turtle Island/Abya Ayala/Americas) also have gender diverse cultures. In North America alone, there are more than 150 First Nations that have such traditions. Many have at least three designate identities and roles of gender. For example, the Diné (Navajo) nation has a total four: Asdzáá, Hastíín, Nàdleehé and Dilbáá. Only in the late 1980s that a number of Native American people have started to reclaim their sacred cultural identities of gender and sexuality as being Two-Spirit. Some of their ancient civilizations also have Divinities who are gender ambiguous. The Aztecs have Ometeotl and the Incas have Quariwarmi.
In pre-Spanish Philippines, there are those who are Asog and Bayot (compared to their contemporary term Baklâ) who are respected among the ancient matriarchal social class of warrior priestesses known as the Babaylan. Androgynous and Intersex Filipinos Gods include the Lakapati, the spirit of Fertility and Libulan, one of the seven moons of Visayan lore.
On the Indonesian island of Sulawesi, the Bugis ethnic group traditionally have five: Makkunrai, Oroané, and also Bissu, Čalabai, and Čalalai. In Java, they have Waria. Kānaka Maoli people in Hawai'i have Māhū. The Amhara tribes of Ethiopia have Wandarwarad and Wandawande. Parts of South Africa have Sitabane. In Congo, they have Kitesha. In South Asia, they have Hijra, Khwaaja Sira and Aravani. Particularly, Hijra identities are among the world's oldest continuing cultures of gender variance, and their roots can be traced back to 4,000 years ago. In ancient Egypt, there was Sekhet and Hem. Even in ancient Judea, there's a record of six genders: Tumtum, Aylonit, Saris and Androgynos in addition to Zachar and Nekevah.
All of these cultures have independently recognized gender and sexual diversity one way or another. Being Nonbinary and Intersex are just as ancient as Human existence. In many of these societies, they're valued and respected as healers, caretakers, and keepers of lore and traditions. The only thing that is new is gender and sex binarism and transphobia that have been savagely institutionalized in today's society, mainly because of the last 500 years of colonization, religious/political persecution and cultural genocides.
JF DA Love this comment!
Wonderful comment. IMHO I believe that the people who you referenced would rather hear and see you on a social media site, rather than this narcissistic individual.
honestly gender is fucking confusing for me. but that's okay, and thank you so much for this video, it really helped.
Thank you so much for this, Chase!!! I'm non binary and I identify as trans. I'm a big fan of you!
That doesn't make any sense. How can you be transitioning from one binary to the other but also non-binary at the same time? That literally makes zero sense.
Hate Love ?? Trans doesn't mean from one binary to another. Trans means being a different gender than you were assigned at birth.
+Rae the Tiger okay and that's either male or female so how can you be either male or female but also Not male or female? That makes no sense, like I said.
?? Nope. Why would it be either male or female? Where did you get that idea from? Did you not watch this video?
+Rae the Tiger yeah I watched the video and it's nonsense, he contradicts himself over and over again.
Again, just because someone "feels" like they're not male or female doesn't make it true. Just because I feel like I'm a dragon doesn't mean I'm a dragon.
I'm a trans guy who fully supports and non binary people I went back and forth between gender identities many times before realizing I identified as transgender I continue to educate myself on these issues and advocate for non binary identities
thanks :) I'm agender and awesome to see this.
Laikyn Bell I love you. ❤️
lol thanks
hey that is awesome
Laikyn Bell I think you're male
KEK
lol thanks
Thanks. Why can't people just understand this? I'm a trans woman, but also identify as androgyne, hence I'm non-binary as well. It's not only my expression (as Ariella and Jaclyn seemed to know so well), because I can literally wear anything and still feel exactly like this. Also I have a friend who's twice as old as I am and feels in a similar way about androgyny, but doesn't medically transition. We both exist. All of you exist. Easy.
I have a dick but sometimes I express my emotions. Does that make me non-binary?
+moralix I'm not spilling hate, I'm criticizing an unfounded and unproven idea and voicing my concerns about an irresponsible piece of legislation.
Yes, I have plenty to do. It doesn't take much time to respond to comments on TH-cam. How am I a troll? I'm talking about relevant topics and bringing up current events, that makes me a troll? Lol okay whatever you say. It's interesting how instead of arguing against my points most people here just complain about the existence of my comments. Wouldn't it be easier for you to just ignore them if you have nothing substantive to add?
Rika Nie that's what I needed to know because nonbinary is more of a personality trait than a gender so it's basically androgynous but I thought chase said there can be nonbinary people that are feminine or not androgynous? That confused me even more because I thought that's what nonbinary was but at the same time it sounds like being a no label.. I'm just genuinely confused
Gonna be honest I'm not even 100% sure of my gender identity and I am 28. I have been identifying as Genderfluid for the past year. And it does fit me for the most part. It just seems like I am male 90% of the time and the other is like 9 % Agender and 1% once in a blue moon female moments. I have heard it all. That people like me make Trans people look like a joke. That I am mentally ill. That I am I Satan's child. (Yes I was literally called that). I was recently even called a "Thing". I know its just words and it shouldn't hurt me but it does. Not only does it hurt me but it also confuses me. I suffer from almost daily top dysphoria cuz I can't bind and have alot of anxiety. I do think bout having top surgery and one day many starting T. But then I question myself more cuz I really don't feel the need for bottom surgery. Alot of my friends are in the LGBT+ community whether they are non binary, trans, pan ect. But it seems like the one straight cis Ally I have supports me more than the friend I have who is trans mtf. In fact my trans friend...don't even believe me.
So I agree with you its sad that a cis person is more supportive that other LGBT+ people are. Sorry for the rant its just the "2 genders" and "non binary isn't real" debates have effected me and wanted to comment and thank you for making this video.
Seriously..people like you are why this video was made. I know what my biological sex is but that doesn't mean it matches my gender. Since you watched this video....you should know that
Dude listen, no one feels 100% masculine all the time. It doesn't mean they're non-binary. No one adheres one hundred percent to some nebulous idea of masculinity or femininity. It doesn't happen, and it doesn't mean that everyone is non-binary it just means everyone is an individual with individual experiences and feelings. And trust me, trying to force people to accept your individuality is going to make almost no one want to respect you.
JJ m there is no difference. There are males and there are females. There are boys there are girls it means exactly the same thing. You are ignorant and don't understand the difference between being something and doing something. your gender is immutable it is biological. Gender roles are just that societal constructs. Playing football doesn't make you a boy any more than being a ballerina makes you girl. You understand the fucking difference you idiot?
I feel the same JJ. My possibly only cis straight male friend has promised me finding help/therapy/doctors for hormone treatment. All the trans, nonbinary and supporter friends don't care or alienate me because I came out so very late (and apparently "sudden" although always something was off and I have identified nonbinary since puberty) :(
But let's be thankful for those cis supporters :) if the supposed peer group doesn't want us we can still be us, possibly even more so.
Notyour Cookie oh I am very thankful for my cis supporting friend. Glad to hear you have such a good friend too
I am Non binary and I'm Trans feminine. I'm also fast approaching 40
kiera white my hero
kiera white What bathroom do you use?
I don't categorize as non-binary but bless this video. this is so important thank you.
you made me feel better. I don't talk about my non-binary identify often, because too often I've encountered trans peoples comments against non-binary people, without knowing they were talking about me.
it's hard enough explaining trans people to cisgender people, to defend trans identify and struggles, but then I don't feel like I'm welcomed in my own community.
As a bisexual person who is questioning their gender, and currently using the term genderfluid, I feel very nervous about trying to join the LGBT+ community, because people who identify in the middle of the sexuality and gender spectrums are SO often invalidated and told to "pick one" or that we're lying to ourselves. It's very scary. I feel like I don't belong anywhere. I feel like I don't belong in the "straight" community or the LGBT+ community, especially because I live in a very religious, Christian state. My parents will never accept my sexuality or my gender, and a lot of my friends won't either. It's been really horrible since I found out how unaccepted people who identify similarly to myself are in the LGBT+ community. Finding a community for me is SO HARD!
McKenna Laird It's soo fucked up! Hurt people, hurt people 😔. Translifeline.org I have found some useful resources, or if you need someone to talk to. Facebook I hear also has some very supportive groups from all over. Also, I know it is soo hard but try drowning out the toxic hatred with love and support. You are not alone! 🤗✌💖💞💓😁
You're a beautiful worthy human 😊.
Hello my fellow lovely human, i myself identify as bisexual, as well as bigender. So i fall in the "middle" of both XD I know exactly how you feel, i live in a strict christian household, im not out to my family, i know for a fact that they would never accept me. Im out only to select friends of mine. Im basically just here to let you know that you arent alone. You arent alone surrounded by other LGBT+ people who dont fully understand. Theres so much controversy everywhere, between LGBT+ and non LGBT+, and even in the community itself, whether its about sexuality, gender, or expression. But what really matters is finding people who love and care for you not matter who you are, and loving and accepting yourself. It doesnt matter what other people think of you, because really, they arent the ones living your life, you are. You have to make the best with what you got. If you want to be happy, then find something that makes you happy. I know how hard it can be to deal with knowing people who are important to you wont accept you. I know how shitty that can make you feel. But if they cant accept you, if they cant love you for who you are, then they dont deserve your awesomeness. You deserve to be happy, you deserve to be safe and have a good life.
I will give you a virtual hug *hug*
1. i love the hair
2. as an ftm guy who is androgynous expressing, i appreciate this. i always get asked what the fuck my gender is and its really fucking annoying so thank you
trashtothemax im the same im a trans guy who feels androgynous in my look, tho im still waiting for T, but I got called a young man today in a store and I felt so validated and happy it put a spring in my step ^-^
if they are asking your gender because they want to actually talk to you then that's awsome
if they are just asking for the sake of asking and then leaving, I understand the annoyance but at least (hopefully) they are trying to understand people who aren't dressing "traditionally"
Lol so androgynous now equates to non-binary.....hahaha omg
How you fucking dress is NOT ANOTHER FUCKING GENDER... MORON
Trash...maybe if you stopped forcing yourself too appear androgynous as possible.. people would know what getnder you are
People are just people. Just let them identify as whatever they want and let them live their lives. Peace.
2:27 : the problem is that there are tons of kids who actually treat it like this. And I think the conflict from within the trans community is mostly over the fact that there are trans people who have really suffered through transition and are seeing these non-binary kids who wake up one day saying they're three genders and wake up the next day saying they're unicorns and waking up the day after that saying they have no gender at all. And if you look at that rationally, it makes at least some sense that those "hateful" trans people are discontented. Maybe they react poorly and angrily, but I think it's perfectly reasonable to be outraged if an issue you've struggled with is being (in your opinion) mocked.
As an outside example, consider this: If some third grader had recently broken their arm very badly, and was going though a difficult time with recovery, they would likely react angrily if some other third grader started making a massive deal over a scratch they got one day. Because maybe the scratch hurt-- maybe it hurt a lot, but it didn't put the second third grader in a cast for three months. Hence the first third grader would be pissed off. I understand that the above is a relatively flawed analogy, but it's the best I've got right now.
I'm not discrediting non-binaryism, because I do think there are people who truly feel such immense discomfort living as either binary gender that they can only live peacefully as non-binary, but I think most of the people who chose to label themselves as non-binary these days are under the age of eighteen and are doing so because they saw the term on the internet and thought it was cool and maybe kind of applied to them. That is what seems to be the problem. That is what people are irritated about.
I feel like to make this analogy work you have to take a bone fracture versus a bone crack. A crack can heal without treatment, but sometimes it better heals in a cast. A fracture is always better in a cast. They actually hurt the same, one may heal faster or more easily, but they fight about who hurts more and who has the thicker cast...
Aloysius i'm non binary and I am now 66. It's not about confusion but more about not giving up either your masculine side or your feminine side but embracing both. I will answer to either he or she and am comfortable with both. As a kid I experienced gender diaspora and probably headed towards transitioning. But I came of age during the 60's and was influenced by the non gender style of the hippy era. Gender become more internal then outward appearance to me. Besides it was more natural to be neutral rather then alter myself to fit one or the other. I can fit in either world. Mother, housekeeper, bread winner home builder and have reached a point where I don't have to choose. If you ask if I'm a man or a women the only answer is yes.
honestly as a nonbinary person who's been struggling w/ gender since the beginning of time, i'm glad. it's so hard to express yourself when there are people denying your identity before you even know exactly what that identity is. : ' ) transitioning has been hard and scary but infinitely better than living as something i'm not. just! thank you!! this had a point at one time i swear!!
Wait what?!?!? You expect people to accept your identity Before You Even Know What It Is??????!!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm definitely killing myself tonight. This is fucking insane
(Less importantly) Which Manic Panic colour is that?
I have the same question!
It looks really fuckin great
:D i already copied the candy cotton pink, now i am back to blue but this is such a great color...
99% sure it's violent violet?
It might be a mixture or a different brand like pravana or arctic fox. Ikd I want to know too, it looks so good.
Just today got a comment like "Sorry, but there are only two genders."
-Sorry Dude, there are only two genders in YOUR world.
Thank you Chase for your voice and your support!
The matching hair and wall are on point!
~A non-binary (but not trans) person
Thank you for this video!!
"Non-bianry isnt real"
Well ok then im right here looking at you?
I love your videos! I'm a trans woman but for like a year during my transition I self identified as non-binary and even now I still feel a little non-binary/genderqueer. I really hope Jaclyn watches this. She never actually apologized rather she just got caught up with the Onision BS. I really like most of her videos but that one was really disappointing to me.
So you can also just feel a little non-binary? Lol what? How is that? Seriously I don't get this. Some of you guys tell me about non-binary and then you come up with some stuff that's completely contradictory. It's like you guys can't come up with a consensus on what non-binary actually is. And I can't take it seriously if you guys can't even agree on what it is.
But why should she be forced to apologise when she only shared her opinion?
your hair matches your background and it's fabulous
Kayla S. I thought you said, 'Your hair moustache..'
Thank you so much for standing up for non-binary people in spite of every negative comment you receive for it.
Omfg.. Thank you for helping me feel so accepted on being agender/non-binary.
thank u for making this, the guy that was throwing around slurs was really bothering me. but i dont want nonbinary people to think they arent welcome by binary trans ppl. you guys are great, and im sure as hecky not gonna be dicks to people for their gender. idk why people blame their own community for how cis people view them
I agree with you. I'm a trans guy but I think I'm also non-binary. I'm still learning more and more about myself. It bothers me when someone talks about example minsexuality on ig on a lgbtq+ page some people in the community says "Stop with all these fake and useless sexualities. This is why people do take us seriously." it makes me feel put out because I do think I can be minromantic but, I just say I'm polyromantic so I don't have deal with people saying that it's stupid. There are many upon many sexual, romantic, and gender idenities and nothing wrong with that. Also, each person can have a little of different definition of what they identify and that's not wrong. yeah, sorry about a small vant.
YES THAT HAIR *ehm* sorry. Great video Chase, thanks for supporting the non binary people in the community, it's one of the many things that people are very ignorant about.
P.S. What's the link/name of the intro music?
The only famous people that you see about non-binary are Willow and Jaden Smith
Ruby from Orange is the new black. Miley Cyrus. A rapper that ID as agender and whose name I don´t remember right now.
Gio Ollila what about ruby rose and miley cyrus?
sam smith as well
About the not having a word for what you identify as prior to finally figuring it out, I actually did identify as genderqueer, but it never really fit right, y'know? I eventually came around to the fact that I was trans, but knowing the word nonbinary would've been so helpful. It would've made me feel way more comfortable, and less confused about everything.
Thank you for talking about these things, bringing different topics into the open. You make the world a slightly more accepting place
Kenny Williams I love you. ❤️
This video made me feel so validated and accepted thank you so much ahhh
leo I love you. ❤️
lee rowan try just being normal lee, then you won't need a video from a stranger to "validate" you.
Wow, those other two commenters are complete assholes. Seriously, someone can't just comment saying they appreciate this video without getting shit from you dickwads? Since they're too ignorant to apologize, I will. I'm sorry this world is full of ugly people, Lee Rowan. You are valid to me.
+GuiltyUntillProvenSober Please learn how to speak properly before commenting.
GuiltyUntillProvenSober why... why?
this video is kinda old but i wanted to say thanks for it. im kinda questioning nonbinary, im pretty sure im neither male or female but one the main things really holding me back and making me doubt my legitimacy is that gender has become such a joke these past few years, especially nonbinary, people treat it as a joke and as if its just people looking for some reason to be different or special or to get attention, but thats the thing thats holding me back. its really terrifying, i know if i was to come out as like agender or something people would just think "oh theyre confused." or "oh one of these 20 year old sjw special snowflakes". like how would i even begin to not get treated as a joke, its all so disheartening, and it really makes having that "ah-ha!" moment of discovering who you are just kind of...really scary. That's what's holding me back, I think I'm kind of in denial because I don't want to be non-binary because I know how hard it will be to be out but also how hard it will get to stay in the closet.
Thats terrible. I can see why you'd feel that way. I dont get why gender identity/expression has to be so close minded or specific? Why cant we expand it just a little;it's a spectrum. This world has become more accepting,yet also more confusing at the same time due to the mix of support/backlash from different viewpoints.
Subscribing because this and your reaction to Arielle's video are perfect. Very well said!
GENDERFLUIDITYYYY
I’m genderfluid. I personally don’t identify as trans. BUT THATS JUST ME!!! I don’t feel comfortable under that label, because sometimes I feel completely female (im afab). SO YEA
I believe in genderfluidy but YOU DIDNT CREATE A NEW FUCKING GENDER JUST BECAUSE YOU FAILED TO BE FULLY MASCULINE AND FEMININE
1. Thanks for this video, all support is important.
2. Your hair is just perfect. Perfect color.
"Maybe I don't agree with how you identify, but I still support you." That seems a very reasonable statement. Hear, hear!
Was going to say more, but no, leave it at that. Nice vid.
i love this, thank you. recently for whatever reason these guys in my class keep saying stuff like "did you just assume my gender" and it makes me rly mad, i feel like its an attack on nonbinary/trans identities and its soo disrespectful. being constantly misgendered is not a joke.
Ruby Rose is on OITNB. Miley Cyrus is on The Voice. Kaitlyn Alexander was on Carmilla. Kate Bornstein was on I Am Cait.
Stevonnie with their "they" pronouns in Steven Universe! I think that is the one Chase is talking about because that is the only character and those others are actors/celebrities.
I love how CN is addressing some of the issues with their shows. Not just SU but you have Clearance too.
Candy Von Bitter OK. I have heard that many SU characters are LGBT+ but I've never seen the show. Maybe I'll see it on vacations ;)
funny how they are all biologically female...
Kate Bornstein was assigned male at birth (that is the correct way to tell someone's biological sex).
I love how your hair matches perfectly with your background.
I was just dealing with this problem. My brother added me into a truscum group and i had no idea how to deal with it.
LEAVE THE GROUP.
Josh Bowles 😂😂😂😂 Good! Now you know what we think of you. 😆😆 👌🏻
Thank you. Just, thank you. I've been taking so much from the community this week, and it's just nice to see that someone actually thinks we're real and accepts us.
It's sooo parasitic. It's toxic and fucked up. Hurt people, hurt people. You are a worthy human! And OF COURSE you are real! The spectrum of gender identity and expression is real. Sending you nothing but love and support 😁🤗💓🤗! [Translifeline.org]
Idk.... I still believe in binary gender.. But again, if someone else wants to be "insert pronoun here" I'll call them what they want, I'll respect them.. But I have my own opinions...
A lot of different society have had and/or still have social systems with more than two genders you know :)
Nouah oh I know.. but most of them generally have male and female. just not as black and white... Like (i think) India which have 5 genders.. but its Female, MTF, intersex, FTM, Male... I think its how it was... even so, its male and female and you can be inbetween.. Like grayscale as apposed to a rainbow...
But Just because I believe in something different, I wont ever belittle someone, or invalidate them because of what they believe / know they are.
I think that these societies have different notions of gender anyway and what you're saying about them having female, male, trans female, trans male and intersex you're saying it using tools and labels coming from our society and our notions of gender but I'm not sure that we can exactly equate the two, like it's not strictly equivalent because even the notions of male and female are different in a different culture or even at a different time. You know what I mean ? Also there are cultures with gender that are completely not female or male too. If someone who knows more about that topic sees that comment, I would be interested to learn more, and correct me if I'm wrong ^_^
Nouah True... But I would know what they were called, like you said. We (at least me, dunno where you live) are from western society.. So its just how I was raised and taught... But I dont let my way of thinking dictate how I act to other people... That is the problem with SJWs. They think one way, therefore they want everyone to think like them or get out... We just all need to be friends :D
I would just like to say: Thank you! :) Even though I don't share your "beliefs" about gender I would like to thank you for being polite and respecting towards people even if they don't share your "beliefs". I wish that more people at least had your decency to respect people.
As a non-binary transguy (agender, medically transitioning to male and feels most comfortable expressing self in a feminine male body), thank you so much, Chase
Fascinating topic. I take anti-androgens and oestrogen supplements. I'm what people would refer to as a MTF transgender or transsexual person. So I've covered the basics. And already offended someone because some people take offence to the word "transsexual". Either because of its historical context or over whether it should contain one S or two. Apparently this matters to some people, since it's a question of biology vs lifestyle.
I've identified as transgender for most of my 49 years, but only started HRT this year. Blood tests over a long period of time have continually shown that my testes produce extremely low levels of testosterone and extremely high levels of oestrogen. So genetically I'm male, but what about hormonally? Male or female?
I've been on oestrogen supplements long enough that I've joined the itty bitty titty club. Sometimes I don't feel like shaving and am happy to get about town with a 3 day growth.
I like wearing some of my wife's clothing occasionally, but she had multiple fashion tastes and would sometimes happily shop for her clothes in the menswear section.
I could keep going, but the point I'm trying to make is that life is complicated and complex. I struggle to see how we can make accurate assessments of what defines a non-binary person, or a gender-fluid person, or even a MTF or FTM person, when examples such as the ones I've shared from my own life illustrate that the issues and the questions surrounding the issues are unresolved.
And BTW this is my favourite TH-cam channel devoted to transgender issues, even though I'm a MTF.
Oh. I just remembered. Dunno how I could have forgotten. In the state I live in (I live in Australia), I can legally change my gender to F or to X, It's already M, so no need to change it to that. And that would be reflected in a reissued birth certificate. So someone changing to X may not actually exist, but they can still vote!
Much love to Australia for your (still quite new) gender laws and hopefully more countries will follow!
I can't thank you enough for this, Chase! This is exactly what the non-binary community needs right now :)
OMG YOUR HAIR OMG CHASE UPLOADED YOURE THE BEST YAY
A while back I left a comment on one of your videos related to dysphoria and passing and introduced myself as an ftm nonbinary person. I got a response from a trans guy who was mostly just uninformed, but asked questions like 'how can you be FtMasc and also nb'. I assumed he just didn't know and was willing to learn so took some time to explain the basics to him and a bit about myself as well. After all that, and being trans himself, his response was 'so does that mean you're just a girl but a tomboy?' which felt (obviously) incredibly shitty. I really appreciate you making videos like this for that exact reason. It's hard enough to get the support of the majority of society with so little representation and knowledge without also having to worry about being invalidated within my own community as well. (On a sort of unrelated note, I'm currently in the middle of working towards starting T and hella excited! A whole bunch of your videos made the process a lot easier). Thank you so much for doing a little bit to tip the scale.
Paradox But I still don't get it. How _can_ someone be ftm and non binary? Isn't ftm binary?
This was already covered in the video and I don't feel like explaining myself again.
Paradox the video does nothing outside of "they exist because they identify as that." It doesn't explain how someone could be non binary and ftm. It's just an issue of definitions I'm asking about. If someone is FtM it means they're a trans man, that is their sex is female but their gender identity is male, i.e. it still falls under the binary definition.
+Paradox it wasn't covered in the video. He said "it's not just a feeling" and then literally in the same sentence he says "it's a feeling". That's not a viable explanation.
Hate Love I'm not the one to explain this then. I was here to leave a comment, that's it.
Thank you so much for making this video, it means a lot to me when i see people being accepting the identities of me and other nb folk. i was actually a bit scared clicking on this, because the fact is just because someone is trans doesnt mean theyll be accepting of this topic, but you definitely pulled through. i really really appreciate this =}
Thank you so much for this Chase. Needed it really bad this week.
I'm still trying to navigate my gender, and my facebook feed is full of "did you just assume my gender" memes, which is extremely discouraging.
Back in 2008, I was on the road to transitioning. I was getting ready to physically transition -- but I panicked. I didn't feel "man enough" to transition. Now, 8 years later, those feelings about my gender still haven't left.
I have come to the determination that I am transmasculine. So, yes, trans. But, completely ok with not being "fully male." This could change once I start hormones. Who knows, maybe my mind is protecting myself from the way I currently present, and once I present as more masculine that will "go away." But, what I do know is that anything that I have read, watched, or listened to about non binary gender has fit my feelings way better than anything else has.
It's perfectly fine to feel that way. Even though I identify strongly as a man or binary transman I don't find the need to "be male". I'd never get bottom surgery I just don't need that to feel like a man but I don't think that makes me any less valid. Despite my top dysphoria I don't even bind, I just sarcastically identify as a dude with boobs. This idea that you need body dysphoria to be valid as trans is stupid, you are whatever identity you are regardless. But even if you don't fully identify as a man that's still valid as well.
Hey! Just a friendly reminder that the phrase "I've probably known more non-binary people than trans people" is problematic, especially considering the topic of this video. It's really nice that you're acknowledging non-binary people though, I support you c:
Loke why is it problematic
It's just that you talk about how non binary people can be and are trans as well as binary trans people, and when you say this you separate the two and make it sound like non binary isn't under the trans umbrella. You feel me?
+Loke I kinda get what you're saying but I think you just misinterpreted what he was saying. I think that when he said that he didn't just mean people who're non binary but not trans he meant like anyone that identifies as non binary regardless whether they also identify with being trans. So like he meant he knows more people who are non binary (might also be trans) than trans people (who don't identify with being non binary at all)
I understand that that's what he meant, and I'm not offended by it (I'm non binary trans), I just thought I'd give him a heads up that his phrasing definitely could be interpreted like that
Lol really? That phrase is completely innocuous. It's "problematic"? You need to grow up and stop acting like a little baby.
i am a transman and i have no problem with nonbinary people because like you said it doesnt effect me. BUT i do believe that having over 70+ genders is getting too much and non lgbt people are not taking us seriously. so in a way it is effecting me. like i said the non binary doesnt bother me but having a shit ton of genders is getting out of hand. in my opinion.
I've tried watching videos by a certain TH-camr who is trans when I got really confused as what I identify as. I watched one of his videos and he kept saying that nonbinary and other genders like agender and genderqueer and other ones aren't real and are "transtrenders". It made me feel like such shit by seeing someone who is also my age saying that my gender isn't real because this guy said so. Nonbinary people can fall under the trans umbrella if they choose to. No person who identifies singularly as a trans person and not also nonbinary can't decide if people like me who are nonbinary if they should be allowed to be considered trans. I'm so glad you said what you did about feminine presenting nonbinary people, it made me feel a little more valid about how I present more feminine naturally.
Thank you so much!! I was seeing cis people and trans people talk about how my identity doesn’t exist or that my identity offends them and it made me feel so shitty and invalidated. Your positivity was exactly what I needed to hear so thank you!!
i like you very much, chase. your channel is probably my favorite. i try not to comment in videos of trans people because i'm afraid people irl are gonna find out i'm trans, but i'm gonna be brave just this once.
thank you for posting these kinds of videos. thank you for being you. you helped me so much because i am also struggling, i also take time to make my decisions, my identity confuses me. i like your "misgendering yourself" video the most, probably. nobody talks about those things and i feel so alone in this, i feel like i'm the only one that is like this and i often don't express my gender or use the pronouns i want to use because i'm afraid ppl will doubt the fact that i'm trans if i do it. like, alright, i'm male, but sometimes i just feel neutral. and i like my body the way it is too, is that a reason to say i'm not trans?
anyway, thank you. don't stop making these videos! you're helping so many people
Chase, I've been seeing your videos for a while now and you're amazing. Never forget how much you matter and how much you've helped so many people. Lots of love from Brazil x
I’m one of your younger viewers (genderfluid) and TH-cam keeps recommending me those “Only Two Genders” video. This really helped after that. I have a certain inability to click away, however painful it is to keep watching it, and this really helped.
This honestly made me feel so strongly validated because I spent/am spending a lot of time questioning and re questioning my identity because of all the backlash and all the people in the community making me feel like I don't exist. Like I don't deserve to feel "non-binary". I spent so much time feeling like I was disgusting or wrong. But your channel makes me feel like I'm not the only one. Thank you, you're awesome!!
Hi. It's nice to meet you. I'm agender, and I'm also trans.
I identify as both, but I also respect not all do. Why doesn't everyone feel that way? Chase, thank you for making this video. What did we do to deserve you? (P.S.: you look so beauty with the purple hair!).
i’d like to think i’m real, but who knows 🤷♂️
This video made my day. I feel strangely happy just to have hear the words "yes, they are real" and made me have hope for some future. I used to feel like I was the only one that felt this way and that I was alone. I grew up in a very conservative place. I had no idea what transgender or nonbinary was or that it even existed. I just looked at men with envy, "why can't I have a penis?", "Why can't my chest feel flat?" but I simply kept quiet for years ever since I was a boy and only became stronger as a teenager. Until I decided to tell my mom "I wanna be a man.. I feel it. I just feel like I am. Like if somehow this body was a costume that I can't take off.." But now there came another problem. I couldn't fit entirely. I never felt at home with the boys and never felt at home with the girls. It was like I was stuck between Man and uncertainty. I feel mad. Like I wasn't a real trans person. Person, came to my head. I am a between a man and a mystery. What is this? What is it that I'm feeling? Once I told the world how I felt people started taking their distance. Cool with me, at least I knew who my friends are and who trully loves me. But then I got separated from my cousin out of fear that hat I felt could be manipulated into him. I was shattered. But the worst came at school. People trew stuff at me, called me slurs, said that I was weird. "WHO CARES? they can say what the want Im tougher than this" but then I heard my own mother scream at someone on the phone. It was about me. Nothing nice. I decided to take my life as I felt I was it was better for the poeple around me to stop being harrased. I could take it. But my friends, my mom, my brother. It is not me, they are messing with them. About how could they have raised a person with such mind? I failed thankfully. Then I met someone at the hospital. They were my caretaker in there. They asked why was I there. I responded with the whole story. They smiled at me and they said "I was that kid too" after that a new world oppened for me. I was not alone. My family was not alone. They told my doctor and she mentioned a place I could go to interact with teens like me. Then my mind expanded once I entered that place. It felt safe. I even knew adults who had gone what I had gone through in the damn 80's. it was not a "phase", a teenagery stuff. They became my support. They offered me a place to be me and not to worry about being beated up. They offered and opportunity for my mom to know other parents of kids like me who were nonjudgemental! I was finally at peace with myself. Gender is a spectrum, like a rainbow. And now that Im transitioning into an adult, going to college and such stressing shit, I can at least know one thing that is true in my life. I am a nonbinary man. And FUCK PEOPLE THEY ALL SUCK. No eceptions.
I needed this. people always hate on me because I identify as nonbinary but present pretty "feminine" most of the time.
You’re valid, I know one reply isn’t going to magically make you feel 100% better about yourself but it’s still worth saying.
Gender identity is not the same as gender expression, sure a lot of people stick to what’s stereotypical for their expression of their gender but a boy, trans or not, wearing a dress doesn’t make him less of a male person. A nonbinary person who presents what society says is ‘feminine’ does not make them less of a nonbinary person.
I’m sure you’re beautiful and don’t let anyone tell you otherwise, sure I don’t know you and you don’t know me but I really hope you know I care about you
it's kinda stupid to say that someone who's non binary isn't trans (that's if they want to identify as such) because they don't fully identify with the gender they were assigned at birth like other trans people so aren't they also trans then. even if they don't want to transition, if they identify as trans they are still trans, we don't call a trans guy who doesn't want to transition medically a girl because that's disrespectful and transphobic
however I understand the fear that it would hinder my transition because I see people on the Internet "pretending" to be trans and doing it to make fun of people and doing stuff like "I identify as a butterfly you better use my pronouns!" but I in no way see how it would hinder my medical transition because a doctor should only look at it on a professional level and not a childish one. it may make me not feel safe in coming out because I'd feel ridiculed but it wouldn't at all hinder my medical transition
also I apologise for any miss spellings I'm finding it hard to type for too long. I'm sorry
Well duh that depends if you're talking about transgender or transsexual. Obviously just saying trans isn't specific enough
Hate Love sorry, I use them interchangeably which may be wrong but I'm talking about transgender and I myself identify as transgender and I plan on medically transitioning and would probably still identify as transgender. I mean If I weren't to transition I'd still be called trans which is the same as a non binary person, if they feel as of they identify under the trans umbrella then they can still use trans and no one can tell them otherwise
+Aleks :D see, that's the whole point. Nobody can agree on what these words mean, yet they want to pass legislation so they can punish people for breaking these arbitrary rules that aren't even internally consistent. Honestly, without the legislation it would just be another silly issue that nobody really cares about except bigots
Cries this made me feel so validated omg. 💖💖💖I really fuckin needed this. Thank you so much for the love.
Chase! Your hair is on pointe! The anticipation for what color of the rainbow you were going with this time starting to kill me by inches... I love how you made your background match so perfectly. So cool!
No, but seriously...
I am an intersex chimera AFAB. If non-binary had existed as a description at an earlier time, it would have been perfect. I was relatively content being somewhere between an effeminate man and a masculine woman. It was very confusing for me to be read as a soft butch lesbian or a hardcore tomboy based on whether people thought I was straight or gay, and wtf was that even supposed to mean to a bisexual intersex person, anyway? I always felt comfortable as a guy, but I happened to have a body other people were more comfortable interpreting as female, and much of my life the message was clear: there was nothing I could do about it.
I have always been far more comfortable with gender neutral language, because it seemed like too much to ask to be gendered correctly (we're talking over a decade ago) while I was generally seen as a cute girl. If I knew then what I know now... I would have insisted on male pronouns from go.
The concept of transition is problematic for me, because I feel like people like me, who don't have a huge amount of body dysphoria (it's there, it's just not my biggest problem) shouldn't feel like they have to transition to be taken seriously. We should be able to exist as female bodied men and male bodied women and it shouldn't be a big deal to use neutral or correctly gendered language. And people like me, who could have been happily in between forever if society didn't insist so hard that everybody needs to choose a side, shouldn't have to deal with that pressure. Maybe someday intersex and non-binary people won't have to deal with that pressure, for now, it's maybe enough to say there could be enough room in the space between male and female for all of the gender nonconforming people under the trans umbrella.
I do identify myself as a transgendered person, because I am generally interpreted as a female and am pursuing gender confirmation through legal and medical means to change my general interpretation to male, because I am more comfortable with that identification.
I have some serious medical complications that would actually be more difficult to accept if I identified with my assigned gender. FTM hormonal therapy is actually going to literally save my life, even though transition is not my primary motivation for pursuing it (and why I'm starting testosterone at thirty two instead of nineteen, when I discovered transition existed)... Like, transition is a cool bonus for me, but I would probably rather die if I were actually attached to being female. Scary thought.
But honestly... All these years that I've had to deal with people insisting I'm a girl and pushing their own agendas and putting their comfort with my body ahead of my own comfort with my body, and even my basic health and wellness... All because people who aren't living inside my body and inside my head thought that their opinions should matter more to me than my own... What is really so difficult about it?
What is so difficult about calling people they/them if they express to you that she/her or he/him causes them discomfort? Like... If you mispronounce my name it falls on my ears like a truckload of cymbals being dumped into a ravine... but if you pronounce my name correctly it's like angels' singing. It's such a subtle, simple thing.
When I decided to embrace transition last year (nearly two years ago, really) and started using male pronouns exclusively, I had not expected it to be a big deal, like, internally. I'm not convinced I could do it justice to describe the feeling that that one tiny adjustment has made in my life. It's like somebody filled my coffee cup.
This video actually made me cry and I'm not one to confess this easily. Thank you for taking the time to even just try to understand us, that alone is brilliant and you're not "taking it to the next level" what you're describing is exactly how I feel!
That invalidating one another, I feel exist in the gay community too. I've heard gay/lesbian people invalidate bisexual people for not being gay enough when they're also rejected for not being straight...
I really think there's nothing worse than being invalidated by the very people who you feel should understand you the most. It fucking hurts.
I like your mentality
Thank you so so much!!! I applaud you, this is wonderful and so are you
This is really well put. I think people forget that non binary people actually experience dysphoria. I am NB and I experience dysphoria about my breasts all the time. It's not something that I "feel." I really struggle with my body image.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm agender and this really helps me feel more validated. You got my sub :3
I recently came out to my mom as Genderqueer and she.. Legit said it pissed her off. That I couldn't identify as anything but a girl because I wear dresses sometimes. Some other things... Made me feel super invalidated. So uh... For all my other NB pals, you're valid. Your gender is valid. You are who YOU say you are. You WILL be who you want to be some day. We have to stick together as a family. I love you all.
Oooohhh i love that hair colour so much
This made my non-binary heart light up! Thank you, Chase. 🖤💜🤍💛
ah yes your nonbinary heart. non binary not being a thing but you still exist tho.
Ok so one thing I wanted to add is that in the future if the main goal of your video is to affirm a certain group of people try to make it as accessible to them as possible. I understand you need a bold title to pull people in but if you re a non-binary individual who has faced so much negative energy from the Internet the title "DO NON-BINARY PEOPLE EXIST" might make them very uneasy about clicking this video.
We don't know if the video is going to be affirming or if it's going to attack identities.
I appreciate everything you said in this video and I thank you for being an advocate and speaking out but in the future try to ensure that the group you are supporting in a video know that it's going to be supportive just from the title alone. I want as many people to see this as possible, especially non-binary people who need to hear the positive message.
I hope this doesn't come off as rude, thank you again.
Thank you Chase. I love you, this really made my day a lot better.
Thank you. So. Fucking. Much. Just thank you. It's so awesome and even necessary to see trans people actually support us fully like you do. I only subbed about a week ago, and it was after the first video I watched; I knew you'd be the sorta dude who would be respectful and mature about the hot fuckin' topic right now about US, the nbs, against all the rants and uneducated content out there which is so much louder than the positivity we receive. So, thank you Chase. :)
"which lips" DEAD. thank you so much chase, it's always a pleasure watching your videos, love your sassy face!
Thank you Chase. I'm 27 and just in the past year has my identity started to make sense to me. I've been surrounded by poster-worthy binary trans people ever since I came out in 2010 and have always been so full of self doubt. At the beginning of this year I was at a breaking point, I felt completely invalid, unlovable, and I hate to use this word but I legitimately felt like I was a freak. I wanted to die. I was so scared for my safety.
You have changed that! I watch your channel almost every day now before work and it just really helps to know other people are out there like me!
I'm pretty sure you said "Nonbinary people are real" at least 20 times in this video. And maybe you're right, maybe it won't change other people's minds. But it changes life for us to hear those words. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
(BEFORE YOU READ THIS I'D LIKE TO CLARIFY THAT I AM NOT REPRESENTING ALL NON-BINARY INDIVIDUALS, I'M ONLY ONE PERSON, SO I CAN ONLY TALK ABOUT MY OWN OPINIONS) I'm a non-binary person, and honestly, I don't really think it's that bad to not see us as real. As long as you're not telling me what I am and as long as you don't hurl abuse at me for no reason, it's not much of a problem to me, honestly, as long as you respect my identity and see me in the way I want to be seen. I have to admit, some identities sound a bit strange even to me, for example, I don't quite get how someone could feel that they're multiple genders at the same time. I'm trying to fix that, but even while I don't understand it, I'm not going to dictate anything about the way you feel. The only way someone could possibly know whether trigender people are actually real is if they were trigender themselves. Honestly, if you tell me you identify as a washing machine, I'll respect that, hell, I'll even march with you at washing machine pride, but I still don't think it's fair to say that everyone who doesn't understand or believe in non-binary people is a bad person. Gender me correctly, make an effort to start understanding my identity, and understand that I know my gender better than you do, and we'll be okay.
I like this comment although I don't fully agree :)
I am non binary too and I think there is a difference between not understanding something, which I think is totally fine, and saying it doesn't exist which to me is just very disrespectful and hurting people for nothing. For example I don't personnally understand how it feels to be genderfluid, or agender, or even to be a man or a woman exclusively, actually ^^ But I'll never tell these people they are wrong just because I can't get how they feel. So to me it's absolutely okay to not understand non binary identities, as long as you respect them anyway, but saying they are not real is just disrespectful I think.
(Sorry if I made language mistakes, english is not my first language ^^)
Saying "I don't understand at all what it's like or what it means but I'll respect it" is reeeeeally different than saying "I don't think your gender is real" though. You know what I mean ?
Nouah
That's exacly what I tried to point out :)
Of course, but that's exactly what I'm trying to say. This isn't a response to Chase, this is a response to some of the opinions I've come across that non-binary people have about people who simply don't understand. Not getting it is completely different to dismissing people's identities, therefore, it's wrong to treat them the same.
Percy Prior-Everdeen
Wonderful, we all agree then ^^
No one is saying they don't exist. People can identify as non binary. They just don't fall under trans.
zOMG Papa lol dude people are definitely saying non binary people don't exist
zOMG Papa many many people do
+Kollin Byrne saying that non-binary is a made up thing isn't claiming that someone doesn't exist. Stop making things up.
Greg Ghxst Well, probably just to trigger the idiots, and they fucking fall for it every time. It's called the internet, trolls exist. If anyone VERBALLY SAYS THE EXACT WORDS 'Non-binary people don't exist,' while that's not my opinion because people can choose to DRESS how ever they like, it's still just an opinion, and instead of crying you should get the FUCK over it.
zOMG Papa sorry I didn't realize you were an actual idiot. i'll leave you be.
It's so nice/important that you stick up for non-binary people! Also it's really funny how your background almost exactly matched your hair color :D
So cool of you to talk so openly about your legit doubts and fears around 5:47. As someone who's put off the MTF transition process for a very long time, I can relate. And for the same reason, I feel a little sick to the stomach when I see people accept trans people, but not nonbinary. I can totally understand that some folks are somewhere in between, or don't want to fit in either of the two traditional genders. And even if I couldn't... what right would I have to reject their identity?
to all the people saying no:
ok boomer
I'm a millennial and this is a stupid fad for narcissistic, delusional, privileged white kids.
No, zoomer
Chase, I have tried to research nonbinaries, I haven't been able to find any evidence for them. Most people cite intersex, or chromosonal disorders but the extreme majority of those people (over 99%) identify as male or female. I am open minded and would love to have some more research affirming nonbinary identities. If anyone has these please provide links or publication titles/articles.
I, likewise, have tried to research the topic. I have found nothing. There are no longitudinal studies. This is not a historical phenomenon; if it were, there would be research. Hopefully non-binaryism will be proven or disproven sometime in the near future so we can actually formulate opinions about it.
You have found nothing because you didn't look very hard. You probably looked for what, five seconds? If you want, I could give you a few studies.
Here are some ACADEMIC sources. The issues with these is that you usually can only access them if you are subscribed to these journals or part of a university. If you cannot access them, I’m sure when you find them they will at least have the abstract for you to read.
Medical journals:
RICHARDS, C; et al. Non-binary or genderqueer genders. International Review Of Psychiatry (Abingdon, England). England, 28, 1, 95-102, 2016. ISSN: 1369-1627.
Bosse, J. D. and Chiodo, L. (2016), It's Complicated: Gender and Sexual Orientation Identity in LGBTQ Youth. J Clin Nurs. Accepted Author Manuscript. doi:10.1111/jocn.13419
Frohard-Dourlent H., Dobson S., Clark B.A., Doull M. and Saewyc E.M. (2016), “I would have preferred more options”: accounting for non-binary youth in health research. Nursing Inquiry, 00: 1-9. doi: 10.1111/nin.12150
Katz-Wise, S.L., Reisner, S.L., White Hughto, J.M. et al. Arch Sex Behav (2016). Self-Reported Changes in Attractions and Social Determinants of Mental Health in Transgender Adults
Elise R. CarrotteEmail author, Alyce M. Vella,Anna L. Bowring,Caitlin Douglass,Margaret E. Hellard andMegan S. C. Lim. 2016. “I am yet to encounter any survey that actually reflects my life”: a qualitative study of inclusivity in sexual health research. BMC Medical Research Methodology
And I know no one cares about to social sciences, but its a REAL thing. I have over 50 articles talking about non-binary identities and people. Here is one of them:
YEADON-LEE, T. What's the Story?: Exploring Online Narratives of Non-Binary Gender Identities. International Journal of Interdisciplinary Social & Community Studies. 11, 2, 19-34, June 2016. ISSN: 23247576.
***** Hey thanks man. I've been watching your youtube channel for quite a while. I think youtube really needs a formally educated person who cites peer reviewed source material in their videos. The vast majority of youtubers who talk about transgender issues literally just make shit up. If you want, I have some studies I can share with you as well, on the brain anatomy of non binary people.
Most TH-camrs seem to be former art students, or maybe they dropped out of high school or college, or they aren't even 18 yet. I don't see them as credible people, for the most part.
Do you think you will ever make a youtube video where you look at these studies in depth, or summarize them to your audience? I think that would be really awesome.
Eli Lili if you send them over I'll have a look at them. I would love to make a video on the science of this stuff to make these people shut up about "WE WANT MEDICAL SOURCES" omg
There are a few shows with nonbinary characters, now! A couple princesses in the new She-Ra are nonbinary, and in Good Omens the apocalyptic horseperson Pollution (who took over for Pestilence) uses they/them pronouns, and all angels and demons are canonically nonbinary, with Crowley in particular presenting some fantastic genderfluid Looks! Good Omens and the nonbinary community that flocked to it is actually how I figured out that I am nonbinary, and I'm a much happier person for knowing.
Thanks for this video, Chase! It absolutely is good to see people on Our Side, so to speak.
I'm thirty years old and I've been thinking more and more about my identity these last few months. I'm still learning about myself, about who I am. I've been watching a lot of videos and your video has helped me feel validated and I want to thank you.