To everyone saying Melanie is like Constance 2.0 now, she isn’t. It actually says on the park’s website that her father had a hand in the suitors’ disappearances, so it wasn’t her. Also, the phantom is still holding a noose in the part that used to have the hanging body, so Jake is still a canon character.
Thank you for you video it's a nice summary of the new attraction! However, there's a few things to note: Madam Leota is kinda important because she is the one calling all the ghosts, ghouls, witches, and all to the "wedding". She also asks them to take the bride to the ballroom and stands the very phrase: "A ravinshing bride, a vanishing groom.". It's was already there in the og and they didn't change it for some reason. The difference in tone between the underground graveyard + town and the manor is more likely a reference to the main imagineers (Marc Davis and Claude Coats) who had two different visions of the mansion. And Grim Grinning Ghosts is a classic song. (even has an official french translation!) At the end of the ride, where in Haunted Mansion the hitchhiking ghosts are, it's not Melanie's grave. It's the four fiancés's graves. One is holding a ring. The new storyline also implies that Melanie has gone crazy about the deaths of her different fiancés and is desperate to marry someone just to be freed from the Manor itself. In the og one, she's been waiting for her only fiancé to come to their wedding. Her grave is actually outside the attraction, in a graveyard you can visit next to the mansion. I don't think it's still there but you could hear a heartbeat if you listened closely. Then, again, thanks for acknowledging this attraction! (and sorry if there's mistakes, English is not my first language).
I got stuck on the Haunted Mansion ride in Florida at the part where their is the gravekeeper and his dog for about 10 minutes. I loved every bit of it.
The launch area was always like this, when they renovated the ride they added Melanie and some visual effects behind the windows that are really cool to see. I really like this ride and I go there everytime I get to go to Disneyland Paris :)
I think it’s great Disneyland Paris has a different storyline than Walt Disney World. I love both of them in different ways. I don’t know if Walt would have liked the decrepit exterior in Paris but it works and love the music through the first part of the ride. It is haunting
@@themeparktheories1040 totally agree. It’s part of the storyline that the manor has fallen into disrepair. Always my first ride every time I go to Disneyland Paris, love it ♥️
@@themeparktheories1040as French who have been to Disneyland Paris many times. Our French Phantom Manor is definitely better scarier than Haunted Mansion when it comes to storytelling. Even more spookier Fun fact, the Whole Frontierland itself is linked to the backstory of Phantom Manor. Not to mention the owner of Big Thunder Mountain Company is the same person who owns the Mansion : Henry Ravenswood, a Gold Miner
I personally don't like the story changes in the 2019 refurb. The og phantom manor was peak. It was more dramatic and had a scarier phantom. They really watered down the story after the refurb by giving Melanie many suitors and turning her into Constance in the end. Not to mention the overusage of the phantom and the removal of the all is vanity reference in the attic. I suggest you analyze the pre-2019 version. I personally find that version to be one of the best rides Disney designed. All the og rides in disneyland paris were much better before they were rethemed or given changes (take space mountain for example).
Yea I can definitely agree with the statements here, however I don’t think the 2019 refurb ruined the ride for me at all. But I do think that it was watered down as well which does kind of make the environment and story suffer a bit now.
@@themeparktheories1040I experienced the Original one, the 1992 version. Definitely scarier. Been on this many since I was kid. The issue is it was piched dark and the storytelling was confusing. And the lightbulbs were outdated until 2018
Did you know that the laughter the Phantom does was done by the Movie/ Horror Legend Vincent Price. Also Vincent Price did the English translate audio for Phantom Manor. You meant know him from The 13'th Ghost Of Scooby- Doo he played Vincent Vnghoul. He did the speaking part in Michael Jackson's Thriller and the laghting in the end of the song. He played one of the main characters in The Raven with Boris Karloff . He played Iorn Tail in Peter Cottontail in the classic. He played Professor Ratigan in The Great Mouse Detective.
I found that the rides in Paris Disneyland go faster and thus last less time than rides at the Anaheim Disneyland. On the other hand, back when I was there - 20 years ago now - the lines were even longer than they are at the Anaheim Disneyland. They do a great overall Jules Verne theme in Tomorrowland. But generally, I did not find Disneyland Paris to be a great park.
I would’ve but Mystic Manor is drastically different from all the other mansion rides. However it is definitely the most impressive and is still a fantastic attraction nonetheless
@Theme Park Theories The haunted mansion AKA Phantom manor is the most happy-go-lucky haunted house in the world 🥰 I will not have it any other way. Oh and this also includes haunted mansion holiday too cause that's awesome also.😊
@@themeparktheories1040Henry Ravenswood is in fact so overprotective to her daughter Melanie. He wouldn't let any suitors to ask her daughter hands. He killed him them all one by one. Well, he actually lured them all into their demise. He's the Ghost of Phantom Manor. Laughing all the way through the Mansion
I remember going to Disneyworld many years ago and saw the Haunted Mansion. At that time it did not have an all over theme, it was just a haunted house with hundreds of ghosts in residence. I really preferred this older version. I think the versions in present time are far too themed. You lose the idea of the classic Haunted House, as everything gets dominated by the story. The creators act as if you, the rider, have no imagination of your own, and cannot understand what you are seeing if you if don't have a narrative to follow. In the original haunted mansion, the ballroom scene and the crystal ball medium scene worked perfectly----it was classic haunted house stories. But in today's over themed mansion, everything has to be made to serve the narrative. I really think they overdid the theming on this attraction. It was better when it was a generalized "haunted house" that could cater to just about any ghost, haunted house or spooky story that people would have heard. I also really dislike the "Nightmare Before Christmas" that they use on the mansion every Halloween. Maybe for a few years while the movie was popular, but it should not be a constant thing done every year forever. That just shows me a lack of imagination on the part of the creators AND the cheap, save money attitude of the Disney management today. There is no difficulty in making a spooky Halloween themed ride out of the Haunted Mansion. Decorate with pumpkins and scarecrows, etc. They could change the Halloween theme every year or every few years. But they find it easier to just go with the "Nightmare before Christmas" theme, which has been going on for twenty years now. It's getting old.
@@themeparktheories1040 I love the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland and while I've never been to Paris. I've seen the Phantom Manor ride on youtube by fans and it looks great with a different story which I enjoy.
I went to Disneyland Paris last year, and while I did definitely enjoy it, as a long time Disney Parks fan, I was somewhat underwhelmed. Using Phantom Manor as an example, I thought it was very well designed with cool animatronics, but something about it felt disjointed and wrong. For as much as their is a story here on paper, I was more confused by the the majority of the ending portion of the attraction, though this may just be due to my bias of expecting the usual graveyard scene for DLR and WDW
I can see that, there is many changes to a lot of the iconic attractions that in some ways make it feel completely different, however I don’t think it makes them bad in any way, just a different experience
There's not even a comparison. Yes the haunted Mansion absolutely set the tone and got the ball rolling but phantom Manor is filled with everything a ghost story should have. Love death pathos redemption. It's straight out of an Edgar Allan Poe poem. It's magnificent.
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To everyone saying Melanie is like Constance 2.0 now, she isn’t. It actually says on the park’s website that her father had a hand in the suitors’ disappearances, so it wasn’t her. Also, the phantom is still holding a noose in the part that used to have the hanging body, so Jake is still a canon character.
Thank you for you video it's a nice summary of the new attraction!
However, there's a few things to note:
Madam Leota is kinda important because she is the one calling all the ghosts, ghouls, witches, and all to the "wedding". She also asks them to take the bride to the ballroom and stands the very phrase: "A ravinshing bride, a vanishing groom.". It's was already there in the og and they didn't change it for some reason.
The difference in tone between the underground graveyard + town and the manor is more likely a reference to the main imagineers (Marc Davis and Claude Coats) who had two different visions of the mansion. And Grim Grinning Ghosts is a classic song. (even has an official french translation!)
At the end of the ride, where in Haunted Mansion the hitchhiking ghosts are, it's not Melanie's grave. It's the four fiancés's graves. One is holding a ring. The new storyline also implies that Melanie has gone crazy about the deaths of her different fiancés and is desperate to marry someone just to be freed from the Manor itself.
In the og one, she's been waiting for her only fiancé to come to their wedding.
Her grave is actually outside the attraction, in a graveyard you can visit next to the mansion. I don't think it's still there but you could hear a heartbeat if you listened closely.
Then, again, thanks for acknowledging this attraction! (and sorry if there's mistakes, English is not my first language).
I love Phantom Manor. It's got such a beautiful haunting story. Disney Paris wins on this one.
disney needs to make a movie about the phantom manor
Same here. We French have been asking many times a Movie for Phantom Manor for years
I got stuck on the Haunted Mansion ride in Florida at the part where their is the gravekeeper and his dog for about 10 minutes. I loved every bit of it.
The launch area was always like this, when they renovated the ride they added Melanie and some visual effects behind the windows that are really cool to see. I really like this ride and I go there everytime I get to go to Disneyland Paris :)
I was on this ride yesterday. I was so surprised. It was amazing. Words can't describe how much i love this ride. 😍👻
I think it’s great Disneyland Paris has a different storyline than Walt Disney World. I love both of them in different ways. I don’t know if Walt would have liked the decrepit exterior in Paris but it works and love the music through the first part of the ride. It is haunting
Personally I like that phantom manor took the risk of being more decrepit looking. It gives a different scenery to the whole frontier land.
@@themeparktheories1040 totally agree. It’s part of the storyline that the manor has fallen into disrepair. Always my first ride every time I go to Disneyland Paris, love it ♥️
@@themeparktheories1040as French who have been to Disneyland Paris many times.
Our French Phantom Manor is definitely better scarier than Haunted Mansion when it comes to storytelling. Even more spookier
Fun fact, the Whole Frontierland itself is linked to the backstory of Phantom Manor. Not to mention the owner of Big Thunder Mountain Company is the same person who owns the Mansion : Henry Ravenswood, a Gold Miner
The Original one version was more scarier in the original, the 1992. My childhood. You say that part is scarier 8:09 😆
The phantom is scarier than hatbox ghost
you should look at the old phantom manor too, it was changed quite a bit back in 2018
I personally don't like the story changes in the 2019 refurb. The og phantom manor was peak. It was more dramatic and had a scarier phantom. They really watered down the story after the refurb by giving Melanie many suitors and turning her into Constance in the end. Not to mention the overusage of the phantom and the removal of the all is vanity reference in the attic. I suggest you analyze the pre-2019 version. I personally find that version to be one of the best rides Disney designed. All the og rides in disneyland paris were much better before they were rethemed or given changes (take space mountain for example).
Yea I can definitely agree with the statements here, however I don’t think the 2019 refurb ruined the ride for me at all. But I do think that it was watered down as well which does kind of make the environment and story suffer a bit now.
@@themeparktheories1040I experienced the Original one, the 1992 version. Definitely scarier. Been on this many since I was kid.
The issue is it was piched dark and the storytelling was confusing.
And the lightbulbs were outdated until 2018
the original is much better. the refurbished version is so disappointing.
@@tears3194 The Original 1992 was too dark to see anything.
Phantom Manor definitely deserves a movie.
Short answer: YES
Did you know that the laughter the Phantom does was done by the Movie/ Horror Legend Vincent Price.
Also Vincent Price did the English translate audio for Phantom Manor.
You meant know him from The 13'th Ghost Of Scooby- Doo he played Vincent Vnghoul.
He did the speaking part in Michael Jackson's Thriller and the laghting in the end of the song.
He played one of the main characters in The Raven with Boris Karloff .
He played Iorn Tail in Peter Cottontail in the classic.
He played Professor Ratigan in The Great Mouse Detective.
how would feel if there was a Haunted Mansion ride set in a sunken cruise ship?
That would be very unique and cool, and could have tie-ins to pirates of the Caribbean
I love phantom manor and I think it’s the best themed ride at Disneyland Paris it’s very immersive
Yes it is an incredibly immersive ride, and the great story telling adds to it for sure!
I found that the rides in Paris Disneyland go faster and thus last less time than rides at the Anaheim Disneyland. On the other hand, back when I was there - 20 years ago now - the lines were even longer than they are at the Anaheim Disneyland. They do a great overall Jules Verne theme in Tomorrowland. But generally, I did not find Disneyland Paris to be a great park.
Maybe compare with Mystic Manor as well. I like them all.
I would’ve but Mystic Manor is drastically different from all the other mansion rides. However it is definitely the most impressive and is still a fantastic attraction nonetheless
@Theme Park Theories The haunted mansion AKA Phantom manor is the most happy-go-lucky haunted house in the world 🥰 I will not have it any other way. Oh and this also includes haunted mansion holiday too cause that's awesome also.😊
Over protective is a good guessss, but that still doesn't excuse him for getting all villainous and being a criminal when it came to Melanie's love.
Let’s see.. it has a dark story to it.. so… I kinda like it better tbh..
What the hack is wrong with Henry Ravenswood? Why did he have to be so villainous about Melanie getting married?
Over protective parent I guess…
@@themeparktheories1040Henry Ravenswood is in fact so overprotective to her daughter Melanie.
He wouldn't let any suitors to ask her daughter hands.
He killed him them all one by one. Well, he actually lured them all into their demise.
He's the Ghost of Phantom Manor. Laughing all the way through the Mansion
offhand?
I remember going to Disneyworld many years ago and saw the Haunted Mansion. At that time it did not have an all over theme, it was just a haunted house with hundreds of ghosts in residence. I really preferred this older version.
I think the versions in present time are far too themed. You lose the idea of the classic Haunted House, as everything gets dominated by the story. The creators act as if you, the rider, have no imagination of your own, and cannot understand what you are seeing if you if don't have a narrative to follow. In the original haunted mansion, the ballroom scene and the crystal ball medium scene worked perfectly----it was classic haunted house stories. But in today's over themed mansion, everything has to be made to serve the narrative. I really think they overdid the theming on this attraction. It was better when it was a generalized "haunted house" that could cater to just about any ghost, haunted house or spooky story that people would have heard. I also really dislike the "Nightmare Before Christmas" that they use on the mansion every Halloween. Maybe for a few years while the movie was popular, but it should not be a constant thing done every year forever. That just shows me a lack of imagination on the part of the creators AND the cheap, save money attitude of the Disney management today. There is no difficulty in making a spooky Halloween themed ride out of the Haunted Mansion. Decorate with pumpkins and scarecrows, etc. They could change the Halloween theme every year or every few years. But they find it easier to just go with the "Nightmare before Christmas" theme, which has been going on for twenty years now. It's getting old.
Yes. The best HM. I love that they took the attraction in a fresh direction. I don’t like the art style of the stretching room portraits.
I love both the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland Anaheim and Phantom Manor in Disneyland Paris.
Yea they’re both great attractions and absolute classics!
@@themeparktheories1040 I love the Haunted Mansion at Disneyland and while I've never been to Paris. I've seen the Phantom Manor ride on youtube by fans and it looks great with a different story which I enjoy.
spibds cool
I liked the original stretch room better where it showed 4 bad things happening to Melanie.
I went to Disneyland Paris last year, and while I did definitely enjoy it, as a long time Disney Parks fan, I was somewhat underwhelmed. Using Phantom Manor as an example, I thought it was very well designed with cool animatronics, but something about it felt disjointed and wrong. For as much as their is a story here on paper, I was more confused by the the majority of the ending portion of the attraction, though this may just be due to my bias of expecting the usual graveyard scene for DLR and WDW
I can see that, there is many changes to a lot of the iconic attractions that in some ways make it feel completely different, however I don’t think it makes them bad in any way, just a different experience
No, the storyline is bad.
There's not even a comparison. Yes the haunted Mansion absolutely set the tone and got the ball rolling but phantom Manor is filled with everything a ghost story should have. Love death pathos redemption. It's straight out of an Edgar Allan Poe poem. It's magnificent.