Es confuso cuando en foros mencionan el sonido cálido orgánico como aumento de ganancia en graves, que bueno que tú lo explicas como esa suavidad analogíca
Some will hear it that way. To me, warm organic does not necessarily mean an increase of Bass density or mass, warm organic is basically natural and smooth sound without any hint of digital timbre to it
And TP30 does not sound like a typical ESS Sabre. And if I may suggest, it doesn't really matter what DAC they are, how they are implemented and tuned matters more. Like this TP30 sounding natural reminiscent of classic AKM native tuning, food for thoughts
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you for the advice, Andy. When the KA1 arrived, I will see the different with Ikko ITM01. They're using the same ESS chip with different series. I've been try Meizu DAC with CS43131 chip and in my ears it's feel good in upper-mid frequency, maybe I'm wrong but that's how I feel.
Haha so it's still showing "32 ohms output impedance" on other shops. Man, I really tried to clarify to them in private messages that it's the wrong description for what they have and it makes the product look bad, but the reality is they just mean all the other specs were measured using 32 ohm headphones, so that's not really the output impedance of the amplifier circuit itself. I tried explaining in different ways but all I could get them to change was to say explicitly what it means for them, so if you look now on Ali the text says "Output impedance：32Ω(Refers to the maximum thrust output after connecting the 32Ω headset)". :D And they also had another error where it said for 32 ohms they push 4 Vrms, but that's really 500 mW and the TP30 is not really capable of 500 mW, and that part is now corrected, it no longer says "4 Vrms @ 32 ohms".
Hi there, bro. What are the main differences between tp30 and colorfly cdam1p? I was willing to get the second, but raised its price LOL and the first is quite cheaper for me. Any difference in deiving power, sound signature, technicalities? Thanks in advance, and very nice video once again!
CDAM M1P offers richer sound texture and denser imaging, TP30 on the other hand offers more airy decays and sense of openness, less frontal with Mids. So, you decide which one appeals to you the most.
@@AndyAudioVault I've been interested in the akm timbre. I have only fiio ka3, ve Megatron, Avani, Odyssey retro, and jm6 pro. so I think I'm missing that other approach. Would you say CDA m1p is the most inclined to that?
Here's the tricky part. TP30 offers a bit more of airy decays versus M1P, but M1P is a point higher with overall sound richness, it's a headache to say one is more preferable than the other, but since you asked which one I prefer more personally, then I will say M1P
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you for the response. I am ready to buy Tanchjim Zero as my first IEM. But I was waiting your review to Crinacle Zeros and 7HZ Zero 2. I do not want to spend a lot for my first IEM. And I am a bit afraid about the fit issues as I read about Tan Zero.
Hello, I have salnotes zero and i pair it with cs pro dac with cirrus logic cs46l41 chip which im using for a while . I want to upgrade the sound quality now , should I buy a new earphone first or instead buy a tp30pro dac first and then buy a decent planar iem later ? Please help . Would tp30 enhance sound quality of salnotes zero as well?
Ideally, you can get the most audible upgrade experiences by upgrading the IEMs first. Salnotes Zero is already quite good however and you would be better served if you can upgrade to something like Hidizs MP145 or Tangzu Heyday (just to name a few). But then the CS Pro would not be suitable to drive those scalable planars. I would suggest if you like Salnotes Zero sound, and want to try improving the experience, yes TP30 and TP20 both would be an improvement over the aged CS Pro. Hope this helps
@@coolsameer001 For up to $100 if you can find a bargain deal for Simgot EA500 then that would be perfect, or even Simgot EM6L, depends on the price range within your sale area. FiiO FD11 is also something I would recommend too
@@coolsameer001 Same config does not mean same sounding, the tuning and implementation matters. I can only speak for EM6L and you can watch my review on it here in my YT. ZS10 Pro X I have no idea as I never tried it
Close your eyes and pick either TP30 or M1P because both are equally engaging and immersive. B1 on the other hand a bit more analytical than those two and will be just a tiny bit less engaging
@@AndyAudioVault Bought the TP20, and also I have the FiiO KA13, I liked it a lot, that is my first dac. I was thinking in buying another one on "sale" but I think ill stay by now with KA13.
Hello! What gives the GAIN mode (enhanced mode) on the DAC, I still did not understand? When it is turned on, nothing changes in the sound at all, the sound does not become more powerful!
@@AndyAudioVault Yes, when I turn on gain, on my tp30, I pinch +-, the indicator turns blue, but nothing happens by the sound, it does not get louder or more powerful. It only heats up even more. I'm listening via PC
I have TP20 but is pretty heavy to carry on and it disconnects frequently. So Im looking for another DAC, does the iBasso DC03 Pro or the iBasso DC04 pro are better in sound quality than the EPZ20? Thanks
¿Por que a tp30 no le puso la calificación de 9 como a tp20? Tiene 8 como shanling ua2 plus,sin embargo dijo que tp30 es mas ancho y con mas microdetalle
TP20 is wider with soundstage than TP30, what I did mentioned is that TP30 has improved more open soundstage compared to Shanling UA2, but if you compare TP30 against the current models like DAWN Pro, DC04Pro, SHIO etc, it is not as wide as them, also TP30 does not emphasize heavily on technicalities, so it scored 8 instead of 9, which is still a high rating because most older DACs can't even score 7 out of 10
hi andy, just based on performance and sound which one would be better? epz tp20, moondrop dawn pro, jcally ap20 & ap10. regardless on where is use it, just want to get the most out of it since all of those are around the same price and share the same dual CS43131.
Between all 4 you mentioned I cannot speak for AP20 since I never tried it. But for the other 3, I must say they are equally matched on sound and performance - they are after all identical with dual CS43131 inside. So just get the one that is easiest for you to buy and worry not, you are not missing anything over the other
thank you very much andy!@@AndyAudioVault sorry if am asking too much but if I were to use for desktop only dac amp, would be better off buying aiyima brands which is kinda of the same as fosi audio internals on most of their dac amps? currently torn between buying a dongle and a standalone dac amp. epz tp20 and aiyima dac-a4 and dac-d5 are all around the same price. btw I don't listen to any flac or lossless since I just use spotify. I am only using it to get power, volume, and less distortion.
@@ThorSealtiel I have no experience with Aiyima so I don't know what to say, they may seems similar to Fosi but to assume they are identical is not something I would blindly declare. If loudness is what you want then the dongles you mentioned has it especially if you run full power from the 4.4mm port, just remember running 3.5mm on those dongles only give you half the power
Curious about your long-term opinions. You mentioned the Moondrop Dawn Pro several times, but I have seen reports that its volume button is a huge fail.
Hey Andy, great review. In India, they are selling the same dac "Audiocular tp30pro" and marketing it as dual ess chips. Hell it's literally same dac and everything is same and I don't know why they are marketing it like it has dual ess chips. I don't think it has dual chips because one website showing it has single chip but on the box it written as dual chip. So confusing 🥲
That was tested in max situation of running on 4.4 with 32 Ohm Tanchjim ZERO on USB Exclusive mode in HIBY Music, High gain. I didn't test the 3.5mm but it is a good assumption that it will run longer since less power is exerted
That gold bar looks very expensive 😮 I have the PD4 Plus and nice to see its one of the best dongles next to the Moondrop Dawn Pro and Tanchjim Space especially for the value these dongles are selling for!!
@@AndyAudioVault I agree my friend. Recently I have been swapping between CS43131, CS43198 and AK4493SEQ and to be honest with you each of those currently used chips have a place in the market. They're all technically brilliant, and super enjoyable to listen to. 😊
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thanks for this review.
My pleasure
Thanks for this review, Andy.
Surprisingly, both these DAC dongles are available in our country under Audiocular brand.
Yes it seems so, a rebrand
Great review as always, thank you!
My pleasure 😁
Thanks Andy for covering this Product.I actually using tp30 pro for quite a bit of time and they are pretty good,can run kz pr2 without any problem.
My pleasure, and yes TP30 complements great with PR planar series especially PR2
Es confuso cuando en foros mencionan el sonido cálido orgánico como aumento de ganancia en graves, que bueno que tú lo explicas como esa suavidad analogíca
Some will hear it that way. To me, warm organic does not necessarily mean an increase of Bass density or mass, warm organic is basically natural and smooth sound without any hint of digital timbre to it
I am interested with TP30, because it use the ESS chip. Hope I can get it someday.
And TP30 does not sound like a typical ESS Sabre. And if I may suggest, it doesn't really matter what DAC they are, how they are implemented and tuned matters more. Like this TP30 sounding natural reminiscent of classic AKM native tuning, food for thoughts
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you for the advice, Andy. When the KA1 arrived, I will see the different with Ikko ITM01. They're using the same ESS chip with different series. I've been try Meizu DAC with CS43131 chip and in my ears it's feel good in upper-mid frequency, maybe I'm wrong but that's how I feel.
Haha so it's still showing "32 ohms output impedance" on other shops. Man, I really tried to clarify to them in private messages that it's the wrong description for what they have and it makes the product look bad, but the reality is they just mean all the other specs were measured using 32 ohm headphones, so that's not really the output impedance of the amplifier circuit itself.
I tried explaining in different ways but all I could get them to change was to say explicitly what it means for them, so if you look now on Ali the text says "Output impedance：32Ω(Refers to the maximum thrust output after connecting the 32Ω headset)". :D
And they also had another error where it said for 32 ohms they push 4 Vrms, but that's really 500 mW and the TP30 is not really capable of 500 mW, and that part is now corrected, it no longer says "4 Vrms @ 32 ohms".
That's what I suspected, but 32Ohm the first time I saw it was really surprising, lol
Is the balanced output power 270mw for both channels or 135mw per channel
It's 270mW per channel
@@AndyAudioVault thanks
Hi there, bro. What are the main differences between tp30 and colorfly cdam1p? I was willing to get the second, but raised its price LOL and the first is quite cheaper for me. Any difference in deiving power, sound signature, technicalities? Thanks in advance, and very nice video once again!
CDAM M1P offers richer sound texture and denser imaging, TP30 on the other hand offers more airy decays and sense of openness, less frontal with Mids. So, you decide which one appeals to you the most.
@@AndyAudioVault I've been interested in the akm timbre. I have only fiio ka3, ve Megatron, Avani, Odyssey retro, and jm6 pro. so I think I'm missing that other approach. Would you say CDA m1p is the most inclined to that?
Hello Andy ,
Which do you prefer for HD600 EPZ TP30 or Colorfly M1P?
As I see have the same analog sound
Thanks a lot
Here's the tricky part. TP30 offers a bit more of airy decays versus M1P, but M1P is a point higher with overall sound richness, it's a headache to say one is more preferable than the other, but since you asked which one I prefer more personally, then I will say M1P
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you for the response.
I am ready to buy Tanchjim Zero as my first IEM. But I was waiting your review to Crinacle Zeros and 7HZ Zero 2.
I do not want to spend a lot for my first IEM. And I am a bit afraid about the fit issues as I read about Tan Zero.
Hello, I have salnotes zero and i pair it with cs pro dac with cirrus logic cs46l41 chip which im using for a while . I want to upgrade the sound quality now , should I buy a new earphone first or instead buy a tp30pro dac first and then buy a decent planar iem later ? Please help . Would tp30 enhance sound quality of salnotes zero as well?
Ideally, you can get the most audible upgrade experiences by upgrading the IEMs first. Salnotes Zero is already quite good however and you would be better served if you can upgrade to something like Hidizs MP145 or Tangzu Heyday (just to name a few). But then the CS Pro would not be suitable to drive those scalable planars. I would suggest if you like Salnotes Zero sound, and want to try improving the experience, yes TP30 and TP20 both would be an improvement over the aged CS Pro. Hope this helps
@@AndyAudioVault Thank you so much, also my budget of iems is under 100 usd , can you suggest me some ?
@@coolsameer001 For up to $100 if you can find a bargain deal for Simgot EA500 then that would be perfect, or even Simgot EM6L, depends on the price range within your sale area. FiiO FD11 is also something I would recommend too
@@AndyAudioVault I checked out simgot em6l and kz zs10 pro x have same driver config , how are zs10 pro x as compared to simgot em6l?
@@coolsameer001 Same config does not mean same sounding, the tuning and implementation matters. I can only speak for EM6L and you can watch my review on it here in my YT. ZS10 Pro X I have no idea as I never tried it
Have you had the chance to review or provide any brief thoughts on the tp20 pro compared to the tp20?
No I don't have TP20 Pro
Hello Andy, Among TP30, B1 and M1P, which one sounds most engaging and energetic for metalheads? Thanks!
Close your eyes and pick either TP30 or M1P because both are equally engaging and immersive. B1 on the other hand a bit more analytical than those two and will be just a tiny bit less engaging
Bravo Andy👍👍👍
TP20 right now is in 25 30 dlls, worth the price? Im waiting for the KA13
Yes, such a bargain price I would say
@@AndyAudioVault Bought the TP20, and also I have the FiiO KA13, I liked it a lot, that is my first dac. I was thinking in buying another one on "sale" but I think ill stay by now with KA13.
Revisara el nuevo ep50 o no tiene planes para hacerlo?
Yes I look forward to review EP50 once I get one
Hello! What gives the GAIN mode (enhanced mode) on the DAC, I still did not understand? When it is turned on, nothing changes in the sound at all, the sound does not become more powerful!
Are you sure you turned it on? High gain is running on more power and you should hear louder output
@@AndyAudioVault Yes, when I turn on gain, on my tp30, I pinch +-, the indicator turns blue, but nothing happens by the sound, it does not get louder or more powerful. It only heats up even more. I'm listening via PC
iBasso DC03 PRO Vs EPZ TP 30 ?
DC03Pro is more technical and energetic, EPZ TP30 is warm, smooth, musical and less technical. It depends on what you looking for
@@AndyAudioVault Aprettiate friend, you have helped me a lot making decissions!!
that external fans though
Что лучше купить? PD4 PLUS или EPZ TP30
Или лучше FIIO KA13? Я в основном слушаю рок музыку
Different tuning, TP30 is warm and musical, PD4 Plus is focused on more technical approach, choose which one you prefer more
@@AndyAudioVault Если сравнивать с KA13? Как он звучит? Может лучше FIIO KA13 взять?
@@xprochinahifi KA13, PD4 Plus and TP30 are all on equal footing when it comes to sound quality, can't go wrong with any one of them
I have TP20 but is pretty heavy to carry on and it disconnects frequently. So Im looking for another DAC, does the iBasso DC03 Pro or the iBasso DC04 pro are better in sound quality than the EPZ20? Thanks
DC03Pro is lighter. DC04Pro same weight as TP20. Quality wise, all three are excellent and pretty well matched
@@AndyAudioVault Thanks, you have one of the best if not the best channel for audio lovers. I appreciate as well your kindness to answer me.
¿Por que a tp30 no le puso la calificación de 9 como a tp20? Tiene 8 como shanling ua2 plus,sin embargo dijo que tp30 es mas ancho y con mas microdetalle
TP20 is wider with soundstage than TP30, what I did mentioned is that TP30 has improved more open soundstage compared to Shanling UA2, but if you compare TP30 against the current models like DAWN Pro, DC04Pro, SHIO etc, it is not as wide as them, also TP30 does not emphasize heavily on technicalities, so it scored 8 instead of 9, which is still a high rating because most older DACs can't even score 7 out of 10
hi andy, just based on performance and sound which one would be better? epz tp20, moondrop dawn pro, jcally ap20 & ap10. regardless on where is use it, just want to get the most out of it since all of those are around the same price and share the same dual CS43131.
Between all 4 you mentioned I cannot speak for AP20 since I never tried it. But for the other 3, I must say they are equally matched on sound and performance - they are after all identical with dual CS43131 inside. So just get the one that is easiest for you to buy and worry not, you are not missing anything over the other
thank you very much andy!@@AndyAudioVault sorry if am asking too much but if I were to use for desktop only dac amp, would be better off buying aiyima brands which is kinda of the same as fosi audio internals on most of their dac amps? currently torn between buying a dongle and a standalone dac amp. epz tp20 and aiyima dac-a4 and dac-d5 are all around the same price. btw I don't listen to any flac or lossless since I just use spotify. I am only using it to get power, volume, and less distortion.
@@ThorSealtiel I have no experience with Aiyima so I don't know what to say, they may seems similar to Fosi but to assume they are identical is not something I would blindly declare. If loudness is what you want then the dongles you mentioned has it especially if you run full power from the 4.4mm port, just remember running 3.5mm on those dongles only give you half the power
Curious about your long-term opinions. You mentioned the Moondrop Dawn Pro several times, but I have seen reports that its volume button is a huge fail.
Which indicates possibly QC issues? Because I have seen many other DAWN Pro users not having this issue including the ones with me. Time will tell
어제 tp30 42달러까지 할인했는데 못샀네요
That's a good price
Hey Andy, great review. In India, they are selling the same dac "Audiocular tp30pro" and marketing it as dual ess chips. Hell it's literally same dac and everything is same and I don't know why they are marketing it like it has dual ess chips. I don't think it has dual chips because one website showing it has single chip but on the box it written as dual chip. So confusing 🥲
Thanks!. The ones on the box is the accurate info. Rebranding is normal for Chi-Fi audio gears for various reasons
Can you please review the F Audio KS01???
Thanks for the heads up, I didn't even know KS01 exists. I will order one soon. Cheers
Awesome! It should be very interesting since it has a screen and seemingly A LOT of power. I want one for my KZ PR2@@AndyAudioVault
isnt 32 ohm.output impadance a bit high?
I think it was a print mistake on the spec cards, at 32 Ohm that would make the dongles subdued with the output, but they are not subdued
May I ask the no. of hours rating is based on 3.5 or 4.4mm? Or both the same duration?
That was tested in max situation of running on 4.4 with 32 Ohm Tanchjim ZERO on USB Exclusive mode in HIBY Music, High gain. I didn't test the 3.5mm but it is a good assumption that it will run longer since less power is exerted
@@AndyAudioVault Thanks for the reply. Appreciate it.
Tp30 heavier than cda m1p?
I don't hava scale with me, but holding both in my hands, feels like both are similarly heavy 😅
@@AndyAudioVault okay tnx for the info Andy
That gold bar looks very expensive 😮
I have the PD4 Plus and nice to see its one of the best dongles next to the Moondrop Dawn Pro and Tanchjim Space especially for the value these dongles are selling for!!
Indeed, so many great releases this year, I have yet to find any one of them being not impressive in their own way
@@AndyAudioVault I agree my friend. Recently I have been swapping between CS43131, CS43198 and AK4493SEQ and to be honest with you each of those currently used chips have a place in the market. They're all technically brilliant, and super enjoyable to listen to. 😊
Audiocular TP 20 and TP 30 in india Andy 😂 typical Chinese company one product 50names in 50 countries
Lol, different branding for different region
And in India it comes with two chips ES9038Q2M@@AndyAudioVault
Is the TP30 Pro a dual DAC implementation ?
TP30 is Single ES9038 with dual Amps