The MOST SHOCKING COACHING MOVE in Cleveland Browns HISTORY | 1990 Browns
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- Imagine being the interim head coach and looking like the favorite to get the job at one point, and then, completely unprompted and completely out of nowhere, removing yourself from consideration for the head coaching position, shocking your players, your front office members, and your owner in the process. Well, in 1990, following a game against the Houston Oilers, that's exactly what happened with interim head coach Jim Shofner and the Cleveland Browns. This is the story behind the bizarre saga
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Members of the 1990 Browns:
Jerry Kauric
Mike Pagel
Jeff Francis
Bryan Wagner
Bernie Kosar
Eric Metcalf
Felix Wright
Mark Harper
Anthony Blaylock
Raymond Clayborn
Derrick Gainer
Brent Fullwood
Thane Gash
Frank Minnifield
Leroy Hoard
Kevin Mack
Barry Redden
Stephen Braggs
Harlon Barnett
Randy Hilliard
Stefon Adams
Keith Bostic
Van Waiters
Eddie Johnson
Ken Rose
Jock Jones
David Grayson
Clay Matthews
Marcus Cotton
Mike Johnson
Al Baker
Mike Baab
Ben Jefferson
Ralph Tamm
Tony Jones
Mike Morris
Dan Fike
Tom Gibson
Kevin Robbins
Gregg Rakoczy
Paul Farren
Chris Pike
Ken Reeves
Vernon Joines
Scott Galbraith
Ozzie Newsome
Eugene Rowell
Leo Lewis
Webster Slaughter
Brian Brennan
John Talley
Reggie Langhorne
Rob Burnett
Michael Dean Perry
Bob Buczkowski
Robert Banks
Anthony Pleasant
Jim Shofner (interim head coach)
Bud Carson (head coach)
Art Modell (owner)
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"One of the worst seasons in Browns history"
The entire New Browns franchise "hold my beer"
I remember 1990 vividly. It was a shock to the system, considering the Browns were coming off a run of 5 straight playoff appearances. The 42-0 home drubbing at the hands of the Bills that led to Bud Carson's firing might still be the worst loss in franchise history (not helped by an inexplicable decision to bench Bernie Kosar and start the immortal Mike Pagel at QB). The ONLY highlight was a Monday night win at Denver.
Number of 3-win or less seasons in Browns history before 1999: Two. From '99 to now? Five.
Number of 4-win or less seasons in Browns history before 1999: Four*. From '99 to now? Eleven.
So...yeah. *Includes the 4-5 '82 season, in which they made the playoffs.
@@pronkb000I agree, a shock to the system is what to call it. Contract holdouts, bad offensive line, team aged overnight, Kosar still not healthy, played defeated & overmatched, bad everywhere...the Patriots were worse (their tumble for football began in 1989, 1990 off-field just as terrible) and that MNF win against the Broncos was good (it's on TH-cam), but 1990 was the first year I followed football, and that is the worst Browns team I've ever seen, since unlike nowadays it wasn't as easy to hide the ugliness of your team (even the 1-31 New Browns had moments when they looked like every team, but the 1990 Browns didn't even look like themselves. The 1991 Bengals would go through the same thing, but their malaise would endure the millennium and beyond).
I still think the 1990 team was the worst in decades, even worse than the 1999-2000 and 2016-2017 1-31 teams.@@gluserty
Wait until the 2016 and 2017 seasons
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made a video about how Forrest Gregg left the Browns before the season finale of 1977 not of his own choosing, as players had ripped him publicly.
Seems like Coach realized he wasn't up to snuff for a HC job... good on him.
MrMoose - exactly, he was just honest with himself.
3:55 SAY THE LINE!!!!
I predicted it was going to be said within the first five minutes.
I had forgotten about that disastrous game vs. Buffalo. I remember watching highlights of that game later that day. That fiasco of a season truly came from out of nowhere like an RKO.
1:42 Kevin Mack making the tackle on Leon White's interception return features one of the most glorious displays of shoulder pad heft ever witnessed by mankind
5:55 Jim “Don’t call me Chris” Everett!!
wow, quitting......soooooo brave and Nobel....welcome to 2022
I’m surprised the NFL network hasn’t given JaguarGator9 his own show yet
At least his own segment on Monday Night Football
Why? NONE of his "tales" are backed up with sources/facts, I guess you love fiction!
@@davidcobb2693 He's literally posting newspaper articles in the video!
@@pronkb000 Then why doesn't he literally acknowledge his sources? He's successful at crafting clickbait titles but what was so "shocking" about an interim coach removing himself from consideration of getting the Head Coaching job full time?
@@davidcobb2693 I think Jag Gator wanted to highlight an egoless move by Jim Shofner, but yeah, coaching the 1990 Browns wasn't something anyone wanted to do with their life: major lost season, so that's the true news in this case.
Before the season started there were commercials that said "This is the year the Browns go all the way". That's the way prophecy goes in Cleveland.
They talk about how Pat Mahomes and Aaron Rodgers can throw the ball well from any angle of their arm. Which is true. And then there was Bernie Kosar quarterback for the Cleveland Browns who always threw the ball either 3/4 or strictly sidearm. Yet he was one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL in the late 80s.
Yeah, it's too bad he went to, The, Tom Brady School Of Sportsmanship, though.
Kosar had a self-styled playing form that could only work for him, and since he delivered the ball the way he did, oftentimes defenses had no idea where Kosar was going with it (he turned his unusual athleticism into an asset, if you ask me). To top that off, Kosar could run a game and read defenses; I thought he was a fantastic player who was fun to watch. And on behalf of Colleen, the Marriott banquet bartender, I wish the New Browns the best of luck.
@@gluserty It's, absolutely, essentially-required, unquestionably.
Give credit to Shofner for at least realizing he was out of his depth here, IMO...
The 3-13 bud carson era and one year from the bb era. bud may have been a good d coordinator running marty's but like many he was not suited to be a head coach. reggie foghorn leghorn was on browns.
The electric slide is the best TD celebration ever, and I'll fight anybody that says otherwise
The Browns 1990 season was doomed from the preseason.
Pro Bowl LT Cody Risien, and starting RT Rickey Bolden both retired very unexpectedly; Pro Bowl CB Hanford Dixon left as a free agent and then suddenly retired; great kicker Matt Bahr was released with an injury leaving the job to Jerry Kauric who managed to miss three PATs; they didn't have a first round pick after an unbelievably stupid trade with Green Bay the year before (Browns got picks 1989-2-31 and 1989-5-114 in exchange for 1989-3-74, 1989-5-127, 1990-1-18, and a running back); a long-snapper who also was starting at guard where the heavy workload left him losing velocity on snaps and led to four blocked punts in a three week span; and they faced 19 holdouts to start training camp, including four starters (LB, CB, FS, and the new starting RT) who missed the entire preseason.
There may have been high expectations, but Art Modell's Monty-Burns-level penny pinching and Bud Carson being an absolute dinosaur destroyed that.
Who was the guard and long snapper?
Frank Minnifield, their best DB, was a holdout that year. They did sign Raymond Clayborn, who had been a pro bowl CB, but he was awful in 1990.
I was a Browns season tix holder in 1990; that was one tough year. The whole team seemed to get old all at once. And Bud Carson, really, wasn't HC material; he was in way over his head.
@@joshuaecht Ralph Tamm. They brought in Mike Morris to handle long snapping after Week 6.
@@TheMrSuge Yeah, Minnifield lasted longest, four games. Felix Wright, Clay Matthews, and Paul Farren were with Minnie as full-preseason holdouts. Anthony Blaylock, Mike Johnson, David Grayson, Thane Gash, Barry Redden, Tim Manoa, Gregg Rakoczy, Tony Jones, and their top three draft picks all missed at least part of camp.
Bud Carson was set up for failure as HC. He was not allowed to hire anybody who was on his staff as DC with the Jets. He didn’t hire the OC, a cluless Marc Trestman. Bad drafts had caught up to the Clowns by 90. The busts of 87 and 88. Then going back, only Kosar to show for the 84-86 drafts. One player Donny Roger’s died. And two picks were traded in the Kosar deal. Metcalfe was miss used as a rookie. Then they made a terrible, trading a 90 1st rounder to draft a WR in the 89 second round. He became a bust.
Even BeliCHEAT had bad drafts, Vardell, Craig Powell-though he only coached him one year.
I was a Browns season ticket holder in 1990. I think you're mis-stating some things.
I think Shofner wasn't walking away from his dream job of HC . He DIDN'T WANT to be a HC;. Ever. He just preferred being a QB coach, or perhaps the OC. Sam Rutigliano never had an OC in CLE; his QB coach ran the offense, so Shofner, from '78-'80, was the deFacto OC of the Browns, even though he only had the title of QB coach. That shows Shofner had no ego; he didn't need the title, he just wanted to call the plays.
Shofner had no trouble getting hired as an OC or QB coach, and he was extremely successful at those jobs. Brian Sipe, Danny White, Neil Lomax and Jim Kelly all had good, if not great, seasons under his coaching. Sipe was NFL MVP, Kelly went to a Super Bowl.
One shouldn't assume that HC is every coach's "dream job". It wasn't Shofner's. He didn't do anything magnanimous so much as turn down a job he simply didn't want.
The 1990 Browns season went south way before Shofner was named interim HC. It was a very strange year; unexpected retirements, lots of contract holdouts, familiar players released, and Bud Carson simply wasn't HC material. He didn't have any leadership skills to navigate a team through a difficult season. In fact, pretty much his entire coaching staff was known to be guys who liked to arrive late and leave early. Wasn't much dedication or leadership coming from that bunch, per the CLE media at the time.
They lost 3 straight after an opening day win vs. Steelers, including a 34-0 drubbing by his predecessor, Marty Schottenheimer's new team (Chiefs). After he lost that game, a humiliating defeat for Art Modell, who had dismissed Schottenheimer a couple years before, it was Carson who basically threw in the towel; he was a defeated HC who knew the owner didn't like him anymore. It was reported that the Browns would fire Carson after he lost the next game, a foregone conclusion since it was a Monday nighter vs. the Broncos, and that the front office was actually rooting for the team to lose so they could get rid of him. There's video footage of Art Modell's box that night, everybody looking depressed when the Browns tied the game up late in the 4th Q. This was a controversy in CLE at the time. After the game Modell had to deny he was rooting against his own team, and deny that there were any plans to fire Carson now or any time in the future (aka The dreaded "Kiss of Death" when the owner gives his HC a vote of confidence). But the Browns unexpectedly won that night, and with their nefarious plot exposed, the front office knew it couldn't fire Carson for at least a couple more weeks (for the optics of the situation). Meanwhile as the team kept losing, Carson acted like a guy who didn't want the job anymore, but wasn't getting fired so that the front office could save face. It was just weird.
Carson eventually was fired after the Bills debacle. Shofner replaced him, but I don't remember anyone thinking that Shofner was coming back to coach the team in 1991. His awful term as HC was pre-ordained before he took the job. The front office botched things up, which caused Carson, and the team, to give up long before Shofner was made HC.
I remember the Bills clobbering Cleveland. Some fan held up a sign for the NBC cameras that said 'Bye Bye Bud' - Rochester NY. Fittingly, I was watching the game on the Rochester NBC station too.
I also heard a Jim Rome 'Billy Joe' reference when he mentioned Mike 'Billy Joe' Pagel.
"This is like watching a sick friend...I don't like to look at this." --Bob Trumpy on commentary for that game, after Darryl Talley's interception return as the capper on the shit sandwich.
The 1991 Browns might be a good vid into itself:
For the second time they drafted a UCLA safety (Eric Turner) who died young, although he did go on to play six years with the Browns/Ravens
Paul Brown died six days before the Belichick vs Giants preseason opener
Three of the Browns' first five games were against past and future Belichick teams: @NE, @NYG, vNYJ
Their lone Pro Bowler that year was Fridge's brother: Michael Dean Perry, who had a McDonald's sandwich named for him in the greater Cleveland area: the MDP
Man I miss that mdp burger lol
I fucking love this channel
Jim Shofner was a terrible head coach. At TCU from 74-76 he was 2-31.
His two wins were over Texas-Arlington (who no longer has a football team) and another SWC sad-sack program, Rice.
This video had 11 ads during the first 8 minutes. How is that possible?
BTW - Marty Schottenheimer was NEVER the interim HC of the Browns. When Sam Rutigliano got fired half way through the '84 season, Marty specifically REFUSED to take the job on an interim basis; he DEMANDED Modell hire him long term or not at all. So he actually signed a 3.5 year long contract to be the HC at the mid-point of the '84 season.
And that half year he coached wasn't a disappointment; the team improved dramatically under him. He took over a 1-7 Browns team and finished the season thereafter at 4-4, including a heart-breaking OT loss to the Bengals, and a 16-14 loss to the Saints when Morten Anderson drilled a 53 yard FG as time expired. So he took over a 1-7 team and came real close to going 6-2 with it the rest of the way. Marty could coach.
"Which is worse than if he did nothing but spike the ball to the ground on every single play".
The tradition continues.
I always start these videos assessing the possiblity of hearing this, and this time it caught me off guard.
I started getting annoying with it …. Now I can’t wait to hear it 😂
7:18 Really good paragraph right here. XD
Still remember being in Baltimore and watching Belichik's final season with the Browns before the Browns moved to Baltimore. 5-11. Everyone just flat-out knew he wasn't the answer. New surroundings, new coach.
Yeah what did become of belachick 😂😂😂
I heard he was with the Jets for a bit
Heartbroken, he wound up creating a league-destroying death star that made football a miserable experience for everyone. Very tragic.
@@johnstebbins24 Eli Manning, was, Luke Skywalker, and, Nick Foles, was, Lando Calrissian, though.
@@matthewdaley746 Yeah, and the Bills were Alderaan.
@@tygrkhat4087 The Giants were, Yavin, the Eagles were, Endor, so, true.
I'd say he was smart enough to realize he wasn't a good head coach, not much else to the story, really.
Dear god. This team had a worse turnover differential than the 1990 patriots, a 1-15 team with a horrendous roster, turnover and point differential, coach, and owner
Shofner was a class act.
Been watching football since I was 7 years old, and the Oilers were my team. The Browns lost 35 - 23 the first game, but you mentioned that they almost pulled the upset. I'm here to tell you that the Browns might have been close for a moment, but Moon was unstoppable. That game was not one the Oilers were going to lose. Its quite different if you are just looking up the game on Google.
Yeah, except, for, when the other team put up a fight, they had the same problems, as, Air Coryell, and, those Browns, no defense, and, no running Game, to bleed the clock late, but, seeing what a completely awful person he turned out to be, I'm just fine, with, it.
@@matthewdaley746 Literally nobody ever calls Moon on being a misogynist. Knowing why makes it worse. But they'll sure yammer on about Moon being a victim.
@@DolFan316 Misogyny was the least of his problems, he was a batterer, period, it ended his first marriage, changing attitudes eventually made him the second, HOFer, (O.J. Simpson), banned from attending, HOF, functions, to say nothing, of his disgraceful treatment of Cody Carlson, he settled a sexual harassment lawsuit which got him fired from a radio job, he infamously choked in, the, Playoffs, causing a move, and, was never called to the carpet, for, it, now, he's offering Deshaun Watson advice on, how, to handle his problems, and, the vicious cycle continues, incorrigible.
@@matthewdaley746 Battering one's wife is one of the primary characteristics of being a misogynist. Just sayin'.
@@DolFan316 That it is, but, most misogynists, don't go the extra mile, like, he did, and, his harsh upbringing, combined, with, his struggles to enter the NFL, absolutely, positively, does, not, excuse his behavior, if he didn't have, so, much to lose, he, probably, would eventually have become a serial killer, the only thing more disgusting, than, his behavior is the, near-universal, pass, "having a tough time," has afforded him, for, so, many long years.
Shofner was 2-31 in three years at TCU's head coach in the mid-'70s. He won one conference game.
Sounds like a normal browns season.🤔
They were suppose to be good but show lowlights. 😆 1:33
I wish that Houston used the Oilers Uniforms!
They, probably, would have had to pay Bud Adams for the privilege of that, and, considering, how, they hated him to the point that seeing their team leave town was, ultimately, considered an acceptable loss, can you really blame them.
13:55 hooray sarcasm
All AFL stats and records count as NFL records
Could you do a video when the Cleveland Browns changed their uniforms for one season in 1984 and then going back to their original uniforms the following season in 1985?
No way that he was going to be considered the 1991 head coach. Not sure why you thought he was. He was a terrible coach. Any fan of the Browns can verify my comment.
I was only 8 years old at the time and even I knew Shofner was a joke.
Modell seriously would've considered it even under the circumstances. I was 17 at the time so I know things like this.
@@DolFan316 I was there, 21 at the time. And there was never a mention of him becoming the head coach in 1991.
It just goes to show that the old adage is true: Offense wins games, Schottenheimer wins championships...lol
Shofner removing his name for consideration of becoming coach, is like me removing my name from being King of Westphalia.
The Cleveland Browns have ALWAYS been WORSE than a 39.6. THEY would be BETTER OFF just SPIKING the football into the ground on EVERY single OFFENSIVE play!!!!!
And then the Browns won the next game after the players found out Shofner definitely wouldn't be around next season. Go figure.
Yeah that guy bores with that crap.
Which is worse than everything except for you to cut that 39.6 crap.
He quit on his team. Very, very brave.
The 2004 Astros quit on Jimy Williams, they had a terrible first half, and, he would have been fired earlier, but, they were hosting the, ASG, he was fired, and, they magically learned, how, to play, again, under Phil Garner, sickening, two straight years they made the Playoffs on the last day, he won, MOTY, and, was compared to 2003 Jack McKeon, except, he wasn't, as good, and, Threw His Team Under, The, Bus, after Game Three of the 2005 World Series ended, largely because of him, even Peter Gammons was furious, with, him, they were swept, and, he was eventually fired.
Only in the 2020s would admitting you suck as a head coach after a 44-point loss that left you 0-4 qualify as heroic. SMH.
@@DolFan316 Money motivates a majority.
@@DolFan316 You should keep in mind that the majority of JG9's content is fiction, overloaded with his opinions. The boy has a vivid imagination!
@@davidcobb2693 Love to see you do better, smart guy. (I couldn't.)
I didn't know Marv Levy was an interim head coach... seems like in those days the interim coaches did well
and the lions best hc since the merger in fontes too... not bad
Makes you wonder why they ever had to wait, for, their shot, in the first place.
@@UserName-ts3sp Yeah, too bad Joe Gibbs snatched his only great year from him.
Levy was never the interim coach for the Bills. When Ralph Wilson fired Hank Bullough, he signed Marv off the street to become the Bills' full time coach. As far as I know, it is the only time in NFL history a head coach was hired mid-season who was not already on staff.
@@tygrkhat4087 That's, totally, enormously, fascinating.
I'm sorry but...Shofner turning down a job he was not even remotely qualified for doesn't really qualify as shocking or noble. That's like me expecting to be praised for not demanding to be CEO of a billion dollar company. Then again, Modell was so clueless he probably WAS going to hire Shofner full-time 🤣
He would never had been considered
Every video has the same quote it’s as worse if you don’t nothing but spike the ball in the ground on every play … just saying but you do a fantastic job
I suppose by modern standards, Shofner quitting after a 44-point loss really is considered stunning and brave. Which only shows how far society has fallen and the end is near.
Let’s go Brandon
1991 season you’re a year off
This was definitely 1990
@@OfficialJaguarGator9 My mistake you’re right I was at the Cleveland Buffalo game in Cleveland when they were blown out
1990? OH... The Revens! Not the current Cleveland B****s! (I won't say the racist name!)
They are named after PAUL BROWN wtf you on about racism
@@teen_laqueefa Maybe it was his or her way of trying to be funny/sarcastic because it's hard to believe someone could be THAT ignorant!