@@Fireyninjadog The Browns seemed to win games on muscle memory in 1972-'73, not quite what they were but still managing to be competitive. They rebounded by the end of the decade and into 1980, later experienced a lull, then experienced the peak of the Bernie Kosar era. I don't remember the rest🙄.
@@gluserty the rest was bill belichick becoming a head coach, and the browns moved to Baltimore, and Cleveland's "old" team came back in 1999, (the browns are an expansion team)
@@Fireyninjadog Yeah, that sounds about right: the Browns drafted Couch (he wasn't THAT bad, but he wasn't great either), and fans of the new Browns needed therapy.
Loved this video. I was thinking a coach who was upset about his team's performance might force them to practice the day after a game, but you laid out perfectly why that's a horrible idea. Also, I loved how you worked in the QB rating of 39.6 and how you knowingly adjusted your catch phrase.
@@Bruce12867 He could also say, "For context: If you did nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every single play, your passer efficiency rating would be 39.6, which is only one tenth of a point worse than Bradshaw's rating on this day." As an example.
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following: 1. A Monday Night game in Houston two years earlier that was the “prequel” to the “Heidi Game”. 2. The lucky penny that sustained the Bengals turnaround in 1970. 3. Another Browns plane trip from Houston to Cleveland in 1980.
As an aside, your post had 4 likes as of this writing. The positioning of the formatting was such that your 3 points and then the 4 were such that my old brain had trouble processing where your 4th point was lol.
6-2 is one of the saddest final scores I've ever heard of (in the modern era). Cleveland's defense was actually able to, all things considered, come through with a decent performance on the scoreboard. If the defense is holding your rivals to just a pair of field goals, all the offense needs to do to get the win is score one single touchdown.
They scored TWO points against Dallas. Can’t imagine players actually acting like this BTW. It was probably a team leader that didn’t get to play making the decision for the team.
I admire the players for wanting to put in the work, but you can push your body only so far. I wonder how the defense played so well against Dallas the following Sunday given what we know now.
The Dallas-Cleveland game was on Saturday afternoon for national television, although it was not shown in Dallas because of a small college bowl game taking place at the Cotton Bowl at the same time
Plus, the fact that the Browns were not a young team at that point; I see QB Bill Nelsen, RB Leroy Kelly, OT Dick Schafrath, WR Gary Collins, WR Homer Jones was on that squad - all older veterans.
To be fair, games lasted 2 1/2 hours in 1970 because the clock would start on a change of possession when the ball was spotted unless it went out of bounds.
Wow! I was thinking the coaches called a quick practice for a bad win. But this is worst. You win a game, but want to resolve things immediately in the late night and early morning? Typical Browns!
Just based on the title, I felt SURE this was during Nick Skorich's tragicomedy of error tenure. I'd expect Collier, of all people, to know better. But at least it wasn't his IDEA. If you told me Skorich held a practice during a HALFTIME, I'd totally believe you.
The Browns went out and lost to the Cowboys 6-2 their next game. I'm going to guess that not a lot of football games ended 6-2. But that wasn't enough for Dallas. They also won a playoff game 5-0 this season.
This Browns team featured a Quarterback that shares my name and spelling, William Nelsen, although he went by Bill and I go by Willie. And of course our middle names are not the same either, but its still funny and the less common way to spell Nelson. Of course there is the country singer I get bugged about sometimes but his is spelled the common way.
Those Browns didn't learn the lesson from the 1948 Browns who played three games from November 21 to November 28. Rest was the key. Nov. 21 New York Yankees, Nov. 25 L.A. Dons and Nov. 28 San Fran 49ers. Not good traveling conditions back then either. They won all three games. Maybe Paul Brown didn't tell Blanton Collier about that when he left.
In the Browns' defense, they did play on a muddy field that was going to stymie both offenses. (Of course this doesn't explain how the Cowboys won 5-0 in virtually perfect conditions.)
At least this time, it wasn't the coach's fault . He tried to talk them out of it,but they wouldn't budge. He knew they would need a day to heal, but they wouldn't listen, and they learned a hard lesson the hard way.
Reminds me of when Jim Boylen tried to make the entire Chicago Bulls team practice on the off day of a 3 games in 4 days stretch and literally lost the entire team, and soon after, his job. I never thought players would actually want to practice hours after an actual football game... in the 70s where they actually played rough compared to today.
So how fast do you think Tim N's bones would snap on a modern football field? I give him one hit from Aaron Donald before he's riding the cart off the field to the hospital.
Rest is sometimes just as important as practice you took the words right out of my mouth.
1970. The turning point in the browns franchise. Winners of the 50s and 60s, to mediocre during the 70s, and the beginning of the 3 rivers curse
@Matt Joseph the point differential each of those years wasn't impressive.
1971: +12
1972: +19
1973: -21
The browns came crashing down in 1974
Curse of Paul Warfield?
@@Fireyninjadog The Browns seemed to win games on muscle memory in 1972-'73, not quite what they were but still managing to be competitive. They rebounded by the end of the decade and into 1980, later experienced a lull, then experienced the peak of the Bernie Kosar era. I don't remember the rest🙄.
@@gluserty the rest was bill belichick becoming a head coach, and the browns moved to Baltimore, and Cleveland's "old" team came back in 1999, (the browns are an expansion team)
@@Fireyninjadog Yeah, that sounds about right: the Browns drafted Couch (he wasn't THAT bad, but he wasn't great either), and fans of the new Browns needed therapy.
Loved this video. I was thinking a coach who was upset about his team's performance might force them to practice the day after a game, but you laid out perfectly why that's a horrible idea.
Also, I loved how you worked in the QB rating of 39.6 and how you knowingly adjusted your catch phrase.
Yeah I was saying the tagline as usual, but he threw us a curveball!
I wonder what he’ll say when he showcases someone with a passer rating of 39 point FIVE. (39.5)
@@AdamJ617 I think the usual catch-phrase.
Now what about when the rating is 39.7?
@@msarzo "...Which is only slightly better than if you did nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every single play."
@@Bruce12867 He could also say, "For context: If you did nothing but spike the ball into the ground on every single play, your passer efficiency rating would be 39.6, which is only one tenth of a point worse than Bradshaw's rating on this day." As an example.
And Mr. Iverson joins the chat at just under two minutes.
I was 4 years old when this game was played. Don't remember the specific game, but I recognized a bunch of my Cowboy heroes there!
This unofficial Official Jaguar Gator 9 historian will remind everyone you made videos about the following:
1. A Monday Night game in Houston two years earlier that was the “prequel” to the “Heidi Game”.
2. The lucky penny that sustained the Bengals turnaround in 1970.
3. Another Browns plane trip from Houston to Cleveland in 1980.
As an aside, your post had 4 likes as of this writing. The positioning of the formatting was such that your 3 points and then the 4 were such that my old brain had trouble processing where your 4th point was lol.
6-2 is one of the saddest final scores I've ever heard of (in the modern era). Cleveland's defense was actually able to, all things considered, come through with a decent performance on the scoreboard. If the defense is holding your rivals to just a pair of field goals, all the offense needs to do to get the win is score one single touchdown.
And convert the extra point.
They scored TWO points against Dallas. Can’t imagine players actually acting like this BTW. It was probably a team leader that didn’t get to play making the decision for the team.
This truly defines "bad idea" for a practice. Wow, unreal. Excellent video. I enjoyed this one--Your detail putting this one together was fantastic
Since the Cowboy game was on Saturday and in Cleveland the game was blackout in Dallas. My brother and I had to listen to it on the radio.
I admire the players for wanting to put in the work, but you can push your body only so far. I wonder how the defense played so well against Dallas the following Sunday given what we know now.
The Dallas-Cleveland game was on Saturday afternoon for national television, although it was not shown in Dallas because of a small college bowl game taking place at the Cotton Bowl at the same time
Haha, where do you even find such obscure details? These stories are always so interesting.
Making matters worse, the Browns played on Saturday after their Monday Night game.
Plus, the fact that the Browns were not a young team at that point; I see QB Bill Nelsen, RB Leroy Kelly, OT Dick Schafrath, WR Gary Collins, WR Homer Jones was on that squad - all older veterans.
To be fair, games lasted 2 1/2 hours in 1970 because the clock would start on a change of possession when the ball was spotted unless it went out of bounds.
Wow! I was thinking the coaches called a quick practice for a bad win. But this is worst. You win a game, but want to resolve things immediately in the late night and early morning? Typical Browns!
Just based on the title, I felt SURE this was during Nick Skorich's tragicomedy of error tenure. I'd expect Collier, of all people, to know better. But at least it wasn't his IDEA.
If you told me Skorich held a practice during a HALFTIME, I'd totally believe you.
With an abysmal 6-2 loss to Dallas... It was more like baseball practice........
The Browns went out and lost to the Cowboys 6-2 their next game. I'm going to guess that not a lot of football games ended 6-2. But that wasn't enough for Dallas. They also won a playoff game 5-0 this season.
My high school football team won a game 67-2 bc the qb kneed in the endzone on the last play. The entire team was pisssssssed.
@@timn8285 we won out first ever freshman game 40-2 then our last JV game 41-2.
This Browns team featured a Quarterback that shares my name and spelling, William Nelsen, although he went by Bill and I go by Willie. And of course our middle names are not the same either, but its still funny and the less common way to spell Nelson. Of course there is the country singer I get bugged about sometimes but his is spelled the common way.
The Browns going 5-7 in 1956 allowed them to draft Jim Brown
I would double down on game film study I would have told them HELL NO! To their request.
Those Browns didn't learn the lesson from the 1948 Browns who played three games from November 21 to November 28. Rest was the key. Nov. 21 New York Yankees, Nov. 25 L.A. Dons and Nov. 28 San Fran 49ers. Not good traveling conditions back then either. They won all three games. Maybe Paul Brown didn't tell Blanton Collier about that when he left.
They were never the same after Jim Brown retired if you ask me.
First game I ever saw live. They scored 2 points. My second game the next year they lost 27 to 0. At least I saw them beat Pittsburgh the next year.
Ray Perkins was known to burn his players out when he coached the Bucs he was actually known to have 3 a day practices in that scorching Florida heat.
John McKay held TEN WEEKS of two-a-days in 1976, right up until the season opener.
@@DNSKansas I also heard that Ray Perkins did similar with the 3 a days look it up but that's what I heard.
Damn that's dumb
@@Phateagle262 Yes it was but that was good Ole Ray for ya.
They really had to be sore after playing on that rock hard turf.
You mean that green throw rug over concrete.
@@DNSKansas Whatever you want to call it.
Texas Rangers 6
Cleveland Indians 2
In the Browns' defense, they did play on a muddy field that was going to stymie both offenses. (Of course this doesn't explain how the Cowboys won 5-0 in virtually perfect conditions.)
That field is more muddy than my butt after Taco Bell
Remember this game well!
Discretion is the better part of valor.
John Heisman did this after the 222-0 game against Cumberland
This is such a Browns thing to do 😆
At least this time, it wasn't the coach's fault . He tried to talk them out of it,but they wouldn't budge. He knew they would need a day to heal, but they wouldn't listen, and they learned a hard lesson the hard way.
Reminds me of when Jim Boylen tried to make the entire Chicago Bulls team practice on the off day of a 3 games in 4 days stretch and literally lost the entire team, and soon after, his job. I never thought players would actually want to practice hours after an actual football game... in the 70s where they actually played rough compared to today.
So how fast do you think Tim N's bones would snap on a modern football field?
I give him one hit from Aaron Donald before he's riding the cart off the field to the hospital.
Houston is in the central time zone while cleveland is in the eastern time zone
Correction: the Browns offense scored ZERO points.
Sounds like a Clevelq d Briwns thing to do
The moral of the story: Don't let the inmates run the asylum.
Browns gonna brown
Score.. 6 to 2.. lol.. here we are in 2022 and the stupid browns can't win a super bowl. This team is a big joke.
Their coach was smart...their ayers on the other hand
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With a twist! It was on the nose and not below his time.