Technically the humans broke the treaty first so Prince Nuada was perfectly within his rights to attack. That said, if the fairies have just gone public with a worldwide press conference they'd find a big chunk of humanity willing to support them.
Actually not so much. Even if the mythic creatures did expose themselfs they would more than likely be scene as a threat Hour the humans would of forced them to be weapons. It’s a story so anything could be done but if you want to make it be as realistic as possible than the humans would be a problem.
You're a moron if you think humanity would give a shit about elves. Slavery, prostitution, resources.... humanity is a nasty piece of work. If you think they would uphold their end of the bargain, you're a bigger moron than I'd have thought. Money rules the world, just as the brazilians utterly destroying the rain forest.
@@yadevk8025 To all the people who agree with nuada i have three words: BUNCH OF TRAITORS!!! If you agree with that stupid idea that the mankind is vile THEN WHY DON'T PREACH WITH THE EXAMPLE AND JUMP FROM A CLIFF!? There is an old native american saying: there are two wolves in the human soul: the black made of darkness an evil, and the white made of light and love, which will win, depends of wich you will feed!!! And what wolf did you feeded? And yes, i'm happy nuada was killed, BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER ROOT FOR A IDIOT WHO GLADLY WOULD KILL CHILDS AND UNBORN BABIES!!! And i ask all of yours: what you did to show nuada was wrong?....
I’ve always remembered Luke Goss as a standout from this film. He brought so much personality to Nuada, a sad brokenness to a fallen leader who wanted to save his people, even if he had to do evil things to accomplish his goals. The guy can act.
There's a definite negativity to them, though. They destroy the Earth, take countless lives of living beings and all for our convenience, not our needs.
Such a good preformance from a not so well knowned actor- Luke Goss. You can feel Nuadas pain and what he is going through, and humanities nature- as we also know it- makes you sympathise with him even if he is an extremist. He is broken inside but at the same time very resolute and displays so much over the whole emotional spectrum and that makes him so multi-facetted on many levels. The one film you almost wish the "bad guy" would have won.
Dude, what "almost"? Only reason he's the capital-V villain is he recognizes the truth of human nature, and only reason he sees through the bullshit is that he might "dare stand against 'Humanity'"... now, where'd I put the Xenomorph-blood -- I mean mouthwash...
The problem is the elves solutions to everything are way too extreme. King wants to let his people die out while the son wants genocide. They need to find something in the middle.
His son is completely right. The middle ground was that elves keep nature and humans keep cities. Humans broke that pact. There are consequences to breaking pacts and clearly the humans have a higher birth rate and don't honor pacts, so what? A huge battle every couple thousand years? Nah, one genocide and that's it, i couldn't agree with him more.
Robert Olin and the elf Chad's sister is the female Germans. While the elf nationalist is trying his best to restore the greatness of the elves she is trying to undermine the elf race and wants it to "fade."
slight necro, but i think the problem with that was the golden army wasn't really something you could use as guards. they either attack or are dormant.
I'm going to be completely honest the Hellboy films were not appreciated in their time they were very overlooked films for the times they were in. It's a shame they weren't made in this time because films like Guardians of the Galaxy kind of opened up that opportunity for comic book films that weren't very much known with the audience.
But this has a good tone, GotG is filled with out of place, forced and artificial jokes that are not funny and drag on too long, is all because of disney of course and this movie do have some dumb jokes too.
Not exactly, to put an example, if this was a mcu movie, Prince Nuada would start dancing after killing his father, and the audience would laugh. Of course that sucessful movies from one genre paved the way for more of them to come, but what disney does with Marvel is something else. A good example of it is Thor Ragnarok, which has nothing to do with Thor, or Marvel, or the actual Ragnarok, and has Thor, Loki, Hela, Odin, and Hulk, all acting out of character just because the focus is in making a comedy, because they cloneD thE Gotg style because they did not know what to do with the character. If you read the comic book you would discover a work of art, if you watch the movie you might have fun for a while, but then you will completely forget about it, as it has actually happened.
I disagree. Thanks to theses underrated gems, its that we have the MCU nowadays. And worry not, they are making a new one with the cop from Stranger things as Hellboy and Milla Jovovich as the Blood Queen
to me nuada was never a villain. he was right when he said humans destroyed and harmed the earth and nothing could ever fulfill their greed. his method to deal with the situation was wrong, but he just wanted what’s best for his kind and the other creatures.
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 Why would someone who is against satan support transsexual ideology? Do boomers even think twice about the nonsensical verbal diarrhea they let out of their mouths?
Agreed. He's a similar archetype as the Magneto character; look at what he's fighting for, and why he pursues the tactics he chooses. These may seem villainous from certain perspectives, and certainly are extreme... But if we examine things dispassionately, it's not difficult to see why he perceives no other path. He's not fighting for his own glory or power; he's fighting to preserve his own kind, and the non-human realm.
They are twins with a psychic link. One twin can sense the others thoughts and feelings. This was the main reason why the princess couldn't hide from her brother. He always knew where she was through their bond. They can also be physically harmed through one another. If one of them dies so does the other.
Interesting, but I don't think it is right. For 2 reason. First of all, the scars. The brother is filled with scars, the sister is not. Meaning that the connection is not from the starts. Second, the prince is suprised that they share injuries. Meaning that he did not know of it before.
"Nuada on some bullshit ranting about hating humanity in a human language" >ignores the fact that both English and Gaelic are "human languages", being spoken by human actors, with neither the time nor lore for even a conlang...
His character was probably speaking their language but they made him speak English for the audience's benefit, that's done in quite a lot of things actually. Like Star Trek where the Klingon's speak their language initially then switch to English so the actors could act more and because that language was harsh on the ears. So as far as the characters are concerned he was speaking elvish or w/e unless it gets addressed.
the concept of the elves in this film is perfect. Born of the earth hence the tree like markings on then skin then die and become one with the earth again and have super natural qualities. Amazing stuff. Original concept art for the magical world is worth a look!
Villain comes, having a valid point, having real grievances. Overreaching in his methods a bit. Then the Hero comes and defeats the villain, maintaining status quo, discarding the ideas. An awful trope.
Really? Allowing antagonists to have valid moral perspectives creates ambiguity and allows the viewer to identify with them. I find it hard to dismiss it given what an absurdly general configuration it is in most narrative setups
Either you know you've made a great villain when his cause is completely understandable and just. Or you've realized just how far your species has fallen
Prince Nuada, the same guy that played a similar role in Blade 2 when he was facing Blade, he was also a prince there and going against his father, avampire elder. These roles really fit him and he plays them well and he seem to be a good martial Artist. The choreography in this movie and in Blade 2 are really good.
Such a underrated film.. loved the artworks of Hellboy, the steam punk themes, the characters design, the concept of otherworldly race that exist beyond our knowledge, makes you feel they probably really exists.
One of the best movies other than: 1. Too long and too goofy at times. 2. Two big plot holes (they could have just melted the crown or kill her from the beginning). 3. Why does a human hater insist on speaking English? :)
W Gemini someone explain the speaking English was for the audience. If the prince spoke in their native language: actor could have problem with that made up language as far as performance. Have you seen Aexon Flux? There's a scene where the main actress "tries" to speak Vietnamese it was so bad that it's distracting.
Yeah pretty much any soldier throughout history carried a sidearm. In general a soldier would carry a spear/polearm as their primary weapon and a sword as sidearm.
Musketeers usually carried a sword as well. If not they would definitely have a bayonet which could count as a sidearm. Even modern day soldiers still carry knives.
@@clambake5265 Sure it is, but a host of small things make for an immersive world. Call it nitpicky, but when has attention to detail ever wronged you?
They say the best antagonists are the ones where you can see yourself siding their their point-of-view, and scenes like this are a fine example of that 😉
'You may think me evil for what I did but who is more evil; the king who ignores the suffering of his people and leads them to extinction or the one who fights for his his life and his peoples survival?" -Prince Nuada from; the story I'm writing.
anne Donovan Their race is no longer significant to the Earth. Yeah,humans can be arseholes, and I sometimes despise what we do and did in the past,but we have to deal with the fact that some of us will continue doing our arsehole ways and stuffs, but humans are learning creature, and not like these barbaric degenerated clock-louse
abie pratama tell me something. how long will it take until humans finally grow up and realize just how much the shadow of greed affected them so as to be destructive they have been before deciding to finally make amends ?
The King not only sentenced his own son to death but his daughter as well causing him great grief, And Nuala is at peace with this. Nuada fought not only for his life but for his sister as well.
Nuada Argetlámh, Nuada Silver-hand, is the character out of Irish Mythology who this badass is based off of. The thing is, being a tribal society that he was from at the time, it was the fittest who had to be High King, and so an elder unable to get out of his chair would have been a person trusted for counsel but would not have been the one to call the shots. How he got his Silver Arm, which in itself is a metaphor for artifice, is that he lost it in a duel he won against a prior settled tribe in Ireland, one on one against a dude called Sreng, and unlike the knaves of other cultures, when we had honorable duels, we upheld them. Unfortunately the loss of an arm led to a new High King being throned, a pretty-word, pretty-faced, black-hearted two-faced wanker called Bres, who was going to sell us all out to the Formorians, a race of Demonic Pirates. But Goibhniu being a fucking lad of a blacksmith got him a silver arm smithed for him, and before he passed it on, he wielded this motherfucker of a blade. The Whispering blade, Fragarach, which translates as The Answerer. Basically, if you're capable of wielding it and worthy of acknowledgement of the 4 treasures of Ireland, including the sword itself, then you were pretty much as unstoppable as is depicted in this scene here. Of course, it's not the sword doing all the work, but it does have the interesting power to force the truth out it people when its edge is at someone's throat... Either way, Nuada was a goddamn badass, and although he was fiercely loyal to his people, he was a reasonable and just man as well.
@@diegowushu Yeah, The Irish mythology around the Tuatha Dé Danann is pretty cool. We only got fragments from Christian monks who had their own biases, surely, but they weren't too bad about these corners of the tales. It was a generational story, and came long before the Cúchulainn stories, in which he's essentially a mix of the Irish Incredible Hulk (due to his Riastradh, his "flesh change") and Chuck Norris memes. It also has strong male role models who weren't afraid to offend people who deserved it , which is an interesting thing to consider with the amount of fucking pussies we have nowadays in Ireland. They never listened to these tales, and neither did three generations before us, and it shows. The thing with Nuada, I guess, is that you don't even have to be a big man to be a strong one.
Irish Celtic Mythology is a very powerful form of Nationalism! We live on a tainted island at the moment, but the spirit of na Fianna ensures that there will always be true men in Ireland to represent her well.
Bro... same. It happened today this morning, I never heard of that movie and i thought Nuada was like the antagonist (which i would love actually) and hyped me up to watch both movies of Hellboy in one day and I'm not disappointed.
seriously? take as an example a fiction book? concretely, in reality, has a land already become sterile because of blood? blood is organic like flesh, and like flesh, it breaks down. so unless you give a real example, the princess is wrong.
Éfar Isti Something like The Red Fallows _can_ happen in real life. Ever heard of the term "Scorch the Earth and salt what remains"? Blood has nutrients, true. So what is known as Blood and Bone fertilizer is obviously feasible. But then there is the very real example of too much of a good thing. That's why The Red Fallows are called such: the amount of blood (with the subsequent iron and salt that is in blood) chokes the earth rather than nourishes it. Just because it's in fiction, does not mean that there isn't a basis behind it.
the problem of fiction is that it's fiction, it's not because it happens that it can happen in reality. Yes there is salt and iron in the blood, but I dare not imagine the quantities that would be necessary to sterilize a soil (if it is possible) it must ask a quantity of victims close to the world wars. the only example of sterilization of the land with the war I know is Rome and carthage and they used large amounts of salts, not blood. it never happened in real life.
Jose Ssegovia Nuada would murder billions if not trillions in his warmongering, both Human and Fae. And because of bloodlust hidden under a weak facade of revenge. It is clear who the villain is.
Syrena Again, _no one_ would be spared in the war that Nuada would seek to start. You have completely missed the point of the underlying message of the dichotomy of the Royal family. Balor would ultimately see history run its course while respecting the treaty, Nuada seeks to shatter the treaty by committing genocide, while Nuala wants to uphold and update the treaty - i.e. joining the Human and Fae in a more connected alliance. Nuada *_IS_* the bad guy here. That "I must protect my people" is an excuse to wage war. He murdered his own father, for Pete's sake!
Everyone in the comments arguing about if Nuada is right or not, villain or anti-hero and normally I would jump in but gods the design for the Fae in this movie was amazing. That is what I imagine when thinking about how a fae should appear. Terrifying, strange and yet alluring at the same time. The eyes were the best part of the design.
Looking through the comments section, and I am amazed by the inability of some people to realize their cognitive dissonance. Though in hindsight, that is the point of cognitive dissonance.
Exactly. If you think about it, that's an animal mentality. It's like we evolved to a point then just stopped half way to where we should be.Like children who never grow up; I want what I want and to hell with everyone and everything else. Oh someone (or something) else lives here already? Too bad I want it now and you have to leave.
You mean like every invasive species that has ever existed with the difference being that unlike boars, crows and crabs, humans can per occasion halt the damage to the environment by rebuilding forests, cleaning seas and bringing animals back from extinction?
Theoretically, yes. The problem being that as soon as you inject the PROFIT factor into things, any thoughts of taking care of the environment and everything in it goes out the window. Taking care of the earth is not PROFITABLE or CONVENIENT which is why environmentalism has always been an uphill struggle. It's so much easier (and cheaper) to just dump your toxic waste in the nearest river than to take it somewhere to be processed into an inert form for disposal. And don't get me started on climate change deniers.
It breaks my heart for people to upload clips of it, because it reminds me that a third movie was never made to these magnificent movie versions of one of my favourite comic....
It takes talent to make the supporting story more chraming than the main one. I wanted to see more about elves from this universe, damn it! They are so cool in their own, unique and creepy way
This is both humans and elves' fault. There should be a holiday every year to remember the pact, where both species get together to celebrate and renegotiate.
Prince Nuada was not against the original truce (i.e. leave the cities to men), he just didn't believe the promises of men and he was right. He didn't want to rule the world, he wanted nature to be restored.
I am pretty sure you "genocide" billions if not trillions of germs every day. It's the way of nature. Nature is not about wolves living peacefully along deers, it's about having a natural balance between them and keep each other's population under control. Too many wolves or too many deers can both be disastrous for the environment.
Humans, germs, makes no difference to nature. What are the benefits of sentient beings to nature? Nothing. Without the humans, nothing much would change, other than less pollution. Without the germs the circle of life can't complete. No matter how self glorified you are, you actually contribute to nature much less than germs do. We evolved a mere 200,000 years ago and most of that were in the shape of apes. There's no guarantee we would last another 200,000 years. Billions years from now, human race would be nothing more than a footnote in the history of earth, let alone individuals. BTW, in case you didn't know, nature kills about 6000 people each hour. We intentionally (wars, crimes, suicides) kill about 200 each hour, far more unintentionally. Sentient beings are not as precious as you think. That's not to say Prince Nuada was right. Humans are even less significant to nature than he thinks. Even if we nuked the earth to nothingness, nature has seen far worse. "Life, uh, finds a way." Plus, he couldn't "genocide" trillions anyway since there's no trillions of humans on earth. :) BTW, in the movie universe, prince Nuada was not destined to kill billions. There were only 4900 golden soldiers and they couldn't even kill faster than our own war machines. Hellboy was the one destined to destroy the world and Elizabeth chose him over billions of "sentient beings". Who is the villain here?
Prince Nuada's the only self-respecting elf in that room. If I were non-human I would have joined his cause. His decrepit father and doe-eyed sister won't put up a fight for their own lives, let alone their people.
I just realized something watching this video: I wonder if humans are so greedy in this universe because we don't live long. The elves live hundreds of years while most humans never make it to 100, so we're in this mad dash to acquire all the things because we know our days are short. I imagine it would be easy to foster patience and wisdom when being 100 is equivalent to being a pre-teen.
I'd like to think that his father didn't just stood up to accept his death, but to also tell his son that regardless of how their beliefs clash, that he is proud of him as his father for stooding up to his own convictions
Technically the humans broke the treaty first so Prince Nuada was perfectly within his rights to attack. That said, if the fairies have just gone public with a worldwide press conference they'd find a big chunk of humanity willing to support them.
Lmfaoo fr tho
Actually not so much. Even if the mythic creatures did expose themselfs they would more than likely be scene as a threat Hour the humans would of forced them to be weapons. It’s a story so anything could be done but if you want to make it be as realistic as possible than the humans would be a problem.
You're a moron if you think humanity would give a shit about elves. Slavery, prostitution, resources.... humanity is a nasty piece of work. If you think they would uphold their end of the bargain, you're a bigger moron than I'd have thought. Money rules the world, just as the brazilians utterly destroying the rain forest.
@@yadevk8025 did you just seriously put prostitution and... RESOURCES?! In the same sentence as slavery as if to say their at all similar.
@@yadevk8025 To all the people who agree with nuada i have three words:
BUNCH OF TRAITORS!!!
If you agree with that stupid idea that the mankind is vile THEN WHY DON'T PREACH WITH THE EXAMPLE AND JUMP FROM A CLIFF!? There is an old native american saying: there are two wolves in the human soul: the black made of darkness an evil, and the white made of light and love, which will win, depends of wich you will feed!!! And what wolf did you feeded? And yes, i'm happy nuada was killed, BECAUSE I WOULD NEVER ROOT FOR A IDIOT WHO GLADLY WOULD KILL CHILDS AND UNBORN BABIES!!!
And i ask all of yours: what you did to show nuada was wrong?....
"Greed in their hearts, a hole that can never be filled" preach bro.
It's only a shopping center :(
It was the gods' that broke the 1st ancient treuce/ sacred rules that caused mankind to sin. Man was made in God's image. #JESUSCHRIST
Stay away religious fanatic!
mitrooper the bibke is literally the truth
well as long as human live, we all has will to better our live and our own egos, our personalities, all that will creat greed
I’ve always remembered Luke Goss as a standout from this film. He brought so much personality to Nuada, a sad brokenness to a fallen leader who wanted to save his people, even if he had to do evil things to accomplish his goals. The guy can act.
He was also Great as Nomak in Blade2
@@kysike666 yeah on bit films he fights Ron Perlman and muders his own father in bot films and hides in the sewers in bot films
"When the last tree has been cut down, the last fish caught, the last river poisoned, only then will we realize that one cannot eat money."
Meanwhile in the grimdark future of the 41st millennium...Old Earth is like that and covered in cities.
Lamb of god- reclamation, right?
Speak to yourself peasants
Then we will NEVER "realize" that we cannot eat money.
That is an old Native American proverb
Shopping malls ....the ultimate evil
idontgive mercesthethird let's not forget factories, casinos, industrial plants, the list goes on.
PotatoEskimos because he wanted to take as many humans with him as possible.
and skinny lattes.. the most evil drink of them all...
There's a definite negativity to them, though. They destroy the Earth, take countless lives of living beings and all for our convenience, not our needs.
All of you missed the joke :s
I didn't know Legolas was so edgy in this Tarantino LOTR remake.
You look like Calum Hood
wrong movie bro, wrong movie 😂
He seems more like young Thranduil hahaha
That’s Guillermo Del Toro to you! Get it right!
Luke Goss is a criminally under-utilized actor
and Jared Nomak (Blade 2),
So fuckin true
Zakary Mandley true😍 i also love him in One night with the king
grace * I just watched that.
He's done over 50 films. Look him up on IMDB
Such a good preformance from a not so well knowned actor- Luke Goss. You can feel Nuadas pain and what he is going through, and humanities nature- as we also know it- makes you sympathise with him even if he is an extremist. He is broken inside but at the same time very resolute and displays so much over the whole emotional spectrum and that makes him so multi-facetted on many levels. The one film you almost wish the "bad guy" would have won.
He was a key part of what made that movie awesome, I also like the part where he tries to dissuade hellboy to not kill that bean giant.
True!!
Hey, it was just a movie..
@@mikesempire77 ...no shit
Dude, what "almost"? Only reason he's the capital-V villain is he recognizes the truth of human nature, and only reason he sees through the bullshit is that he might "dare stand against 'Humanity'"... now, where'd I put the Xenomorph-blood -- I mean mouthwash...
"Arthas, my son, what are you doing?"
"Succeeding you, father..."
To my shame,I haven't seen any of the Hell Boy movies yet,but I swear the first second of the video made me think about Arthas too xD
@@Hedrox97 YEEES! exactly the same man
nice.
Arthas... and Jaina??
YES
The problem is the elves solutions to everything are way too extreme. King wants to let his people die out while the son wants genocide. They need to find something in the middle.
The King is Angela Merkel...
His son is completely right. The middle ground was that elves keep nature and humans keep cities. Humans broke that pact. There are consequences to breaking pacts and clearly the humans have a higher birth rate and don't honor pacts, so what? A huge battle every couple thousand years? Nah, one genocide and that's it, i couldn't agree with him more.
Robert Olin and the elf Chad's sister is the female Germans. While the elf nationalist is trying his best to restore the greatness of the elves she is trying to undermine the elf race and wants it to "fade."
They both suck balls.
slight necro, but i think the problem with that was the golden army wasn't really something you could use as guards. they either attack or are dormant.
I'm going to be completely honest the Hellboy films were not appreciated in their time they were very overlooked films for the times they were in. It's a shame they weren't made in this time because films like Guardians of the Galaxy kind of opened up that opportunity for comic book films that weren't very much known with the audience.
But this has a good tone, GotG is filled with out of place, forced and artificial jokes that are not funny and drag on too long, is all because of disney of course and this movie do have some dumb jokes too.
You are mistaken. Movies like Hellboy, Spider Man and X-MEN were the ones that opened the opportunity for Marvel/Disney movies to be a success.
Not exactly, to put an example, if this was a mcu movie, Prince Nuada would start dancing after killing his father, and the audience would laugh. Of course that sucessful movies from one genre paved the way for more of them to come, but what disney does with Marvel is something else.
A good example of it is Thor Ragnarok, which has nothing to do with Thor, or Marvel, or the actual Ragnarok, and has Thor, Loki, Hela, Odin, and Hulk, all acting out of character just because the focus is in making a comedy, because they cloneD thE Gotg style because they did not know what to do with the character. If you read the comic book you would discover a work of art, if you watch the movie you might have fun for a while, but then you will completely forget about it, as it has actually happened.
I disagree. Thanks to theses underrated gems, its that we have the MCU nowadays. And worry not, they are making a new one with the cop from Stranger things as Hellboy and Milla Jovovich as the Blood Queen
and guardians of the galaxy's scrips have been complete shit while Hellboy's are quite good
to me nuada was never a villain. he was right when he said humans destroyed and harmed the earth and nothing could ever fulfill their greed. his method to deal with the situation was wrong, but he just wanted what’s best for his kind and the other creatures.
He represents Satan.
@@MichaelBrown-td8om….relax Mr She-Them🫡
@@thepoeticbutcher3370 Why would someone who is against satan support transsexual ideology? Do boomers even think twice about the nonsensical verbal diarrhea they let out of their mouths?
Agreed. He's a similar archetype as the Magneto character; look at what he's fighting for, and why he pursues the tactics he chooses. These may seem villainous from certain perspectives, and certainly are extreme... But if we examine things dispassionately, it's not difficult to see why he perceives no other path. He's not fighting for his own glory or power; he's fighting to preserve his own kind, and the non-human realm.
I never noticed the hidden meaning of his "Are you at peace with his verdict, sister?" until now
potaterjim You mind explaining it?
Curtis Griffiths I think it means that she will die too
They are twins with a psychic link. One twin can sense the others thoughts and feelings. This was the main reason why the princess couldn't hide from her brother. He always knew where she was through their bond. They can also be physically harmed through one another. If one of them dies so does the other.
To me, when the king said Death, he was not sentencing his son but himself.
Interesting, but I don't think it is right. For 2 reason. First of all, the scars. The brother is filled with scars, the sister is not. Meaning that the connection is not from the starts. Second, the prince is suprised that they share injuries.
Meaning that he did not know of it before.
"i hate humanity!"
> speaks in human language as opposed to his own
"Nuada on some bullshit ranting about hating humanity in a human language"
>ignores the fact that both English and Gaelic are "human languages", being spoken by human actors, with neither the time nor lore for even a conlang...
His character was probably speaking their language but they made him speak English for the audience's benefit, that's done in quite a lot of things actually. Like Star Trek where the Klingon's speak their language initially then switch to English so the actors could act more and because that language was harsh on the ears. So as far as the characters are concerned he was speaking elvish or w/e unless it gets addressed.
as these guys said... you dumbfuck .)
Much like the irish
Same reason the Covenant speak english in halo. Convenient for the audience
"Sometimes the world doesn't need another hero, sometimes what it needs is a monster"
A dracula reference
@@Raza-bo4ol yes and unfortunately one that is true.
This brings back memories...
Yeaahhhhhhh
@The Lich King Yeeee :p
@The Lich King Everybody gangsta until Wotlk 2.0. Then, everyone *Surprised Pikachu*
So much Arthas, Terenas and Lordaeron into this scene.
What series is this?
@@andrefilipe9042 hell boy it seems but I'm not sure
@@andrefilipe9042 it's from Warcraft III
@@AlmostMaliken I know Warcraft 3 but not about this video origin.
Hung Nguyen its fucking hellboy men ( something with golden army, nice movie)
I was actually for the elves this entire film, and I am human.
same
you're human, shit i could've sworn you were cave troll
look more like tim curry in the devil suit
the concept of the elves in this film is perfect. Born of the earth hence the tree like markings on then skin then die and become one with the earth again and have super natural qualities. Amazing stuff. Original concept art for the magical world is worth a look!
how can they be xeno if there also native to earth you did not think that though emperor
The thing I think most ppl overlooked is that to kill his son he would also kill his daughter.
I have watched this scene hundreds of times. I simply love it.
Villain comes, having a valid point, having real grievances. Overreaching in his methods a bit. Then the Hero comes and defeats the villain, maintaining status quo, discarding the ideas. An awful trope.
There's a difference between a bad screenwriter and a good one.
You should read about the adversary cycle.
@@filiphavojic8045 Not everything comes down to screenwriter. There are also studios and producers shaping the final product.
@@skyeplus True. But then screenwriters shouldn't pitch ideas they just ditch halfway through.
Really? Allowing antagonists to have valid moral perspectives creates ambiguity and allows the viewer to identify with them. I find it hard to dismiss it given what an absurdly general configuration it is in most narrative setups
Either you know you've made a great villain when his cause is completely understandable and just. Or you've realized just how far your species has fallen
Prince Nuada should get his own movie.
Agreed, and it should be called: Elric of Melnibone!
Hell yeah
I would LOVE to see that, the guys a total badass
Prince Nuada, the same guy that played a similar role in Blade 2 when he was facing Blade, he was also a prince there and going against his father, avampire elder. These roles really fit him and he plays them well and he seem to be a good martial Artist.
The choreography in this movie and in Blade 2 are really good.
Such a underrated film.. loved the artworks of Hellboy, the steam punk themes, the characters design, the concept of otherworldly race that exist beyond our knowledge, makes you feel they probably really exists.
Agree 100%
One of the best movies other than:
1. Too long and too goofy at times.
2. Two big plot holes (they could have just melted the crown or kill her from the beginning).
3. Why does a human hater insist on speaking English? :)
W Gemini someone explain the speaking English was for the audience.
If the prince spoke in their native language: actor could have problem with that made up language as far as performance.
Have you seen Aexon Flux? There's a scene where the main actress "tries" to speak Vietnamese it was so bad that it's distracting.
Which of the movies is it ??
I want to name my son after him... This is how much I appreciate such a character.
Very convenient for Nuada that all those guards carried extra swords that he could grab
MiSt 526 it's very common just how a US solder will have a rifle and a side pistol.
Yeah pretty much any soldier throughout history carried a sidearm. In general a soldier would carry a spear/polearm as their primary weapon and a sword as sidearm.
Musketeers usually carried a sword as well. If not they would definitely have a bayonet which could count as a sidearm. Even modern day soldiers still carry knives.
It’s a freakin movie
@@clambake5265 Sure it is, but a host of small things make for an immersive world. Call it nitpicky, but when has attention to detail ever wronged you?
I wonder how many of his people supported Prince Nuada
If you listen when Balor gives the order for him to be killed you can hear some of the elves shocked reaction and one even shouts: No!
Minhaj Nizam if the conditions was in low morale like germany 1930's?? Probably every population
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Me too man!
None in action. He still only had himself (other than the golden army) at the end.
I love the character and the actor his voice carries so much desperation and pain.
"Greed in their hearts, a hole that can never be filled" Quagmie: "Giggidy"
They say the best antagonists are the ones where you can see yourself siding their their point-of-view, and scenes like this are a fine example of that 😉
'You may think me evil for what I did but who is more evil; the king who ignores the suffering of his people and leads them to extinction or the one who fights for his his life and his peoples survival?" -Prince Nuada from; the story I'm writing.
anne Donovan Their race is no longer significant to the Earth. Yeah,humans can be arseholes, and I sometimes despise what we do and did in the past,but we have to deal with the fact that some of us will continue doing our arsehole ways and stuffs, but humans are learning creature, and not like these barbaric degenerated clock-louse
Trolls are part of the Magical People too you know.
abie pratama tell me something. how long will it take until humans finally grow up and realize just how much the shadow of greed affected them so as to be destructive they have been before deciding to finally make amends ?
Varen Shan the only think that will destroy humanity is themselves
And they're doing a darn good job of it too. Unless they stop (or are stopped), nothing will be able to live on this planet any more.
so is Prince Nuada an anti-hero?
I've never sympathized with the villain or wanted a bad guy to win more.
Dude, same.
The King not only sentenced his own son to death but his daughter as well causing him great grief, And Nuala is at peace with this. Nuada fought not only for his life but for his sister as well.
Man, I'm a sucker for a good fight scene.
That’s so true…”humans will never have enough….”
Nuada Argetlámh, Nuada Silver-hand, is the character out of Irish Mythology who this badass is based off of. The thing is, being a tribal society that he was from at the time, it was the fittest who had to be High King, and so an elder unable to get out of his chair would have been a person trusted for counsel but would not have been the one to call the shots.
How he got his Silver Arm, which in itself is a metaphor for artifice, is that he lost it in a duel he won against a prior settled tribe in Ireland, one on one against a dude called Sreng, and unlike the knaves of other cultures, when we had honorable duels, we upheld them. Unfortunately the loss of an arm led to a new High King being throned, a pretty-word, pretty-faced, black-hearted two-faced wanker called Bres, who was going to sell us all out to the Formorians, a race of Demonic Pirates. But Goibhniu being a fucking lad of a blacksmith got him a silver arm smithed for him, and before he passed it on, he wielded this motherfucker of a blade. The Whispering blade, Fragarach, which translates as The Answerer. Basically, if you're capable of wielding it and worthy of acknowledgement of the 4 treasures of Ireland, including the sword itself, then you were pretty much as unstoppable as is depicted in this scene here. Of course, it's not the sword doing all the work, but it does have the interesting power to force the truth out it people when its edge is at someone's throat...
Either way, Nuada was a goddamn badass, and although he was fiercely loyal to his people, he was a reasonable and just man as well.
That's a cool tale.
@@diegowushu Yeah, The Irish mythology around the Tuatha Dé Danann is pretty cool. We only got fragments from Christian monks who had their own biases, surely, but they weren't too bad about these corners of the tales. It was a generational story, and came long before the Cúchulainn stories, in which he's essentially a mix of the Irish Incredible Hulk (due to his Riastradh, his "flesh change") and Chuck Norris memes.
It also has strong male role models who weren't afraid to offend people who deserved it , which is an interesting thing to consider with the amount of fucking pussies we have nowadays in Ireland. They never listened to these tales, and neither did three generations before us, and it shows.
The thing with Nuada, I guess, is that you don't even have to be a big man to be a strong one.
Fun fact: Fraoch lost his hand too, in a 7th century tale: Táin Bó Fraoich.
Irish Celtic Mythology is a very powerful form of Nationalism! We live on a tainted island at the moment, but the spirit of na Fianna ensures that there will always be true men in Ireland to represent her well.
I remember wishing so badly that Prince Nuada would succeed
No one:
Absolutely no body:
Nobody at all:
TH-cam after eight years: so anyway, I started recommending
Same here - movie looks pretty sick though.
Bro... same. It happened today this morning, I never heard of that movie and i thought Nuada was like the antagonist (which i would love actually) and hyped me up to watch both movies of Hellboy in one day and I'm not disappointed.
The Princess is incorrect. Green grass grows because blood is spilt.
Ever heard of the Red Fallows?
seriously? take as an example a fiction book? concretely, in reality, has a land already become sterile because of blood? blood is organic like flesh, and like flesh, it breaks down. so unless you give a real example, the princess is wrong.
Éfar Isti Something like The Red Fallows _can_ happen in real life. Ever heard of the term "Scorch the Earth and salt what remains"? Blood has nutrients, true. So what is known as Blood and Bone fertilizer is obviously feasible. But then there is the very real example of too much of a good thing. That's why The Red Fallows are called such: the amount of blood (with the subsequent iron and salt that is in blood) chokes the earth rather than nourishes it. Just because it's in fiction, does not mean that there isn't a basis behind it.
the problem of fiction is that it's fiction, it's not because it happens that it can happen in reality. Yes there is salt and iron in the blood, but I dare not imagine the quantities that would be necessary to sterilize a soil (if it is possible) it must ask a quantity of victims close to the world wars. the only example of sterilization of the land with the war I know is Rome and carthage and they used large amounts of salts, not blood. it never happened in real life.
Éfar Isti It is possible, and that is what Nuala was referring to.
Villian is hero in his story
edit: man, did not know i get this many likes, thanks guys
Quân Nguyễn Lê there is no true hero over villain in this story. Both sides have very valid points.
Jose Ssegovia well it is the matter of perception
i would not call "hero" a guy that was ready to kill millions of people, with childs included...
Jose Ssegovia Nuada would murder billions if not trillions in his warmongering, both Human and Fae. And because of bloodlust hidden under a weak facade of revenge. It is clear who the villain is.
Syrena Again, _no one_ would be spared in the war that Nuada would seek to start. You have completely missed the point of the underlying message of the dichotomy of the Royal family. Balor would ultimately see history run its course while respecting the treaty, Nuada seeks to shatter the treaty by committing genocide, while Nuala wants to uphold and update the treaty - i.e. joining the Human and Fae in a more connected alliance.
Nuada *_IS_* the bad guy here. That "I must protect my people" is an excuse to wage war. He murdered his own father, for Pete's sake!
Amazing movie!
Nuada did nothing wrong
How is Nuada a nazi?
Besides lose
Look at his name.
Pretty good joke.
Accept killing his own father. Abusing his own Sister. And threatening to subjagate a entire ppl group yeah man well said
@@rickywilcoxson6933 Bruh.
The set and character design was amazing. WHY didnt they made a 3rd one.
"I fear car. Car Ignition shop !"
Those automatic captions never get old ...
anyone else love the side story of the elves more than that actual movie
They look like the wraiths from Stargate Atlantis.
Can't blame him. You have to fight for your own.
Nuada's father: "What are you doing my son!"
Prince Nuada: "Succeeding you.... father!"
this kingdom shall fall....and from the ashes shall arise a new order, that will shake the very foundations .. of the world !
Everyone in the comments arguing about if Nuada is right or not, villain or anti-hero and normally I would jump in but gods the design for the Fae in this movie was amazing. That is what I imagine when thinking about how a fae should appear. Terrifying, strange and yet alluring at the same time. The eyes were the best part of the design.
Elrond : how far have my kin fallen...
Is this what became of the elves who stayed in Middle Earth ? 😒
That is a BEAUTIFUL FIGHT SCENE
Looking through the comments section, and I am amazed by the inability of some people to realize their cognitive dissonance. Though in hindsight, that is the point of cognitive dissonance.
As a human I approve his message.
beautifulll scene, the music. Art it is
I always loved you father...damn that’s deep
For a shallow mind.
......
I hope Luke Goss works with Guillermo del Toro again in the future.
this films' aesthetics were thru the roof. underrated as hell (pun intended)
Uh...anyone else think Prince Nuada is hella good looking o.o
Ohhhh yeah UwU
Without a doubt.
Norwegian metalheads do.
I am struggling to find points to oppose him.
Technichally he's right.
Why they recommend this now. 😂😂😂😂
I like everything on this film. Story, make up, effects, actors etc. are perfect.
Prince Nuada, He is so handsome. I love this movie.
he is so right humans are like that they will never have enough till all is gone even them
And then they'll wonder what happened. So typical.
No shit. Its like we evolved on a planet where you must kill or be killed, and take or be taken
Exactly. If you think about it, that's an animal mentality. It's like we evolved to a point then just stopped half way to where we should be.Like children who never grow up; I want what I want and to hell with everyone and everything else. Oh someone (or something) else lives here already? Too bad I want it now and you have to leave.
You mean like every invasive species that has ever existed with the difference being that unlike boars, crows and crabs, humans can per occasion halt the damage to the environment by rebuilding forests, cleaning seas and bringing animals back from extinction?
Theoretically, yes. The problem being that as soon as you inject the PROFIT factor into things, any thoughts of taking care of the environment and everything in it goes out the window. Taking care of the earth is not PROFITABLE or CONVENIENT which is why environmentalism has always been an uphill struggle. It's so much easier (and cheaper) to just dump your toxic waste in the nearest river than to take it somewhere to be processed into an inert form for disposal.
And don't get me started on climate change deniers.
Turn on auto generated subtitles if you want a right laugh
We must secure the existence of our people and a future for elven children
If the Silmarillion is ever adapted, I think we've found our Feanor
The elves were weak and especially the king letting his people die off, I’m on the prince side on that part.
3:36 The Old King still has some pride. Met his death with dignity.
How i look at it he agreed with his son but he wanted to honor the truce with humanity that he brokered.
It breaks my heart for people to upload clips of it, because it reminds me that a third movie was never made to these magnificent movie versions of one of my favourite comic....
It takes talent to make the supporting story more chraming than the main one.
I wanted to see more about elves from this universe, damn it! They are so cool in their own, unique and creepy way
This is both humans and elves' fault. There should be a holiday every year to remember the pact, where both species get together to celebrate and renegotiate.
Yes! Great idea!
But that's actually the problem...one side was simply too self-involved to be bothered.
The King made a very difficult choice. He sentence not only his Son to Death but also his Daughter.
2020 and still relevant.
"You can't be that mad!"
"Perhaps I am. Perhaps they made be so.."
Damn that's a good line!!
He has a point we have forgotten our oaths nature and the gods....the elves were probably here along time before humans.
Hey, you guys get magic and mystical artifacts while we get shopping malls. I call that even.
I swear, when I first saw this movie, I thought Nuada was being played by Tom Cruise...
He is a very good underrated movie actor... One of the best villains ever....
I am here to cry about the new movie...anyone with me?
Looks like Legolas *eviltwin* brother!
😱🤔🖤
When the entire country gone senile and you the only one left with sense to avoid the end!
this is how dark elfs should like in fantasymovies dark, twisted, ruthless, scarylooking, proud and kickass fighters
I would vote him in November.
Are they speaking Elvish, or ancient Celtic/Irish?
Q i did and found out, thanks
Ancient Celtic
It"s sounds like ancient wellsh
Katimation Nation Technically both. Ancient Celtic (pertaining to Gaelic and Welsh) was the basis for Elvish.
Its Irish (I can understand it :)
"They are greedy. They will never have enough" says the power junkie who wants to rule the world.
Prince Nuada was not against the original truce (i.e. leave the cities to men), he just didn't believe the promises of men and he was right. He didn't want to rule the world, he wanted nature to be restored.
W Gemini And yet he was willing to genocide billions, if not trillions, of both Human and Fae life to do so.
I am pretty sure you "genocide" billions if not trillions of germs every day. It's the way of nature. Nature is not about wolves living peacefully along deers, it's about having a natural balance between them and keep each other's population under control. Too many wolves or too many deers can both be disastrous for the environment.
Humans, germs, makes no difference to nature. What are the benefits of sentient beings to nature? Nothing. Without the humans, nothing much would change, other than less pollution. Without the germs the circle of life can't complete. No matter how self glorified you are, you actually contribute to nature much less than germs do. We evolved a mere 200,000 years ago and most of that were in the shape of apes. There's no guarantee we would last another 200,000 years. Billions years from now, human race would be nothing more than a footnote in the history of earth, let alone individuals.
BTW, in case you didn't know, nature kills about 6000 people each hour. We intentionally (wars, crimes, suicides) kill about 200 each hour, far more unintentionally. Sentient beings are not as precious as you think.
That's not to say Prince Nuada was right. Humans are even less significant to nature than he thinks. Even if we nuked the earth to nothingness, nature has seen far worse. "Life, uh, finds a way." Plus, he couldn't "genocide" trillions anyway since there's no trillions of humans on earth. :)
BTW, in the movie universe, prince Nuada was not destined to kill billions. There were only 4900 golden soldiers and they couldn't even kill faster than our own war machines. Hellboy was the one destined to destroy the world and Elizabeth chose him over billions of "sentient beings". Who is the villain here?
W Gemini You're just proving my point here.
I couldn't have put it better myself.
Prince Nuada's the only self-respecting elf in that room. If I were non-human I would have joined his cause. His decrepit father and doe-eyed sister won't put up a fight for their own lives, let alone their people.
And so true he is
This reminds me of Warcraft 3 Human ending scene.
The autogenerated text is actually really accurate for the lines in Elvish.
"I fear car. Car ignition. Shop."
I just realized something watching this video: I wonder if humans are so greedy in this universe because we don't live long. The elves live hundreds of years while most humans never make it to 100, so we're in this mad dash to acquire all the things because we know our days are short. I imagine it would be easy to foster patience and wisdom when being 100 is equivalent to being a pre-teen.
How can you fight with hair like that
Mr. Cat it works for Alucard
very fabulously
@@shinluis looool well done sir
Mr. Joantart maybe it’s Maybelline
can't help but agree with him but then again i am a nature worshiper
Then he slips a cursed diary in Ginny's school gear
I'd like to think that his father didn't just stood up to accept his death, but to also tell his son that regardless of how their beliefs clash, that he is proud of him as his father for stooding up to his own convictions
this is the kind of Sith i want to see in a GOOD Star Wars Movie!
#Nuadadidnothingwrong
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When you buy a $70 game only for the devs to install a paywall
We will "not" fade.