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Him starting valorant: All the abilities and 22 agents are so confusing
Me starting Overwatch: why is there a dragon on my screen
this is something you need to deal with any game not only valorant or overwatch
I always appreciate the balanced perspective you bring to any of your journeys or reviews. We live in a society that loves to polarize and divide over every topic, so it's refreshing to hear someone recognize both the good and bad in something.
As someone who came to Overwatch AFTER Valorant, your opinions about the game having "too much information with no intuition that can help you with consistency" was EXACTLY how I felt about Overwatch. Learning any hero shooter for the first time feels that way to me unless they're within a game genre that I'm already familiar with.
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getting adjusted to OW was okay for me simply due to the distinction. Almost no one looks similar, even down to posture, so it got easy fairly quickly to recognize what characters had which abilities, and it helped that every ability is unique, not just X characters twist on the same thing, even if their are a lot of characters and abilities to memorize. Starting Valorant, that felt... much less clear. from even a mild distance, most agents looked the same to me, and abilities felt less distinctive. Valo's saving grace in that regard is that the basic gameplay is at least fairly obvious, and you aren't usually concerned with half a dozen other people at the same time.
I've been playing OW for years and trying to improve at the shooter aspects of it. Recently I've been invited to play Halo Infinite with some friends, so I tried it out. I'm definitely better at aiming than most other people in the lobbies, but I don't know any of the maps, or the weapons and where they spawn. Give me a sniper rifle and I can start popping off, but most of the time I feel like I'm spraying bullets into someone's head and not getting kills because of shield health. It's amazing how much game knowledge plays a part, and raw aiming mechanics don't matter as much as you'd think.
I’ve been playing Halo for years but only got into multiplayer in the last year or so and I completely agree, Map knowledge is absolutely the most important part of Halo.
Also it’s really nice to hear about someone new starting to play Halo.
the game also has aim assist o mouse and key btw
A quick tip, turn on agent voices. Sometimes when so many things are happening you can't hear the sound queues properly if they're all stacked together, so listening for certain voicelines is very helpful.
always hilarious when an overwatch player talks about util being confusing
I'd love to see you learn Rainbow Six Siege! There's more overlap with Overwatch than people think in terms of the strategy and teamwork.
Valorant is just a heavily stripped down version of Siege, combined with the most boring Overwatch-esque powers in the world. Siege on the other hand is so much more complex and rewarding. It's got even better qualities than just staring at a wall intensely, it's you staring at a wall after looking at cameras knowing that they're most likely going to bomb their way through that wall. But then you get shot from below cuz someone droned you out. But at least you survived cuz you can actually take a handful of body shots instead of just fucking 2 from most guns.
Also, the clutches can be so much more fucking rewarding. Because it's not just hitting your shots, but you making a genuinely smart, well informed play. Even better if you're in a 2v5 and you're win was based off god-tier communication. Winning in that game can be one of the most rewarding experiences in all games imo. I need to get back into it now
Please do Siege!
@@MrBeastknows if you at any point in a round of valorant are staring at a wall intensely while doing nothing you arent playing the game correctly. and siege is definitely not more complex
@@MrBeastknows you probably also think the only way to play support in overwatch is healbotting, bozo
@@Yo-ds1fh it's literally just corner staring. that's most of the game. stop acting like it isn't
7:48 great trigger discipline, didn’t spray in panic but tapped instead, good target priority, just great clutch overall! That play alone makes it clear you could be ascendant in like a month maybe month and a half
No lol are you crazy 😂😂
make sure you have voice lines turned on in valorant it is much easier to know what ults are coming in by the ult voice line
Ive been jumping on with the boys lately, and everytime we die to an interaction we're like " _Oh dude, you should have read the bio_ "
...The joke being that i dont think theres a more competitive game that explains abilities less vaguely.
I'd say Valorant is my favorite game of the hero shooter genre since it still rewards players for being good as an individual. You can still win a 1v5 if you're good enough unlike OW where it's essentially game over if even half your team is gone.
The head swing back to the side every time SVB gets killed in these clips is pretty hilarious seeing them back to back.
Loved the video! I'm an Overwatch player who has transferred more into Valorant and dabbled in Apex so this was a great watch. Its interesting that you were going for an ace because for me, I get way more serotonin from getting a 1 vs 3 or 1 vs 4 clutch than getting an ace where maybe the opponent has a weak buy or you got the first few kills and the rest are easy because you're up numbers. I also tend to play the more passive agents like Astra and Cypher though so perhaps thats why I value clutches more. Ofc getting a 1 vs 5 ace clutch ticks both boxes.
Still kinda enjoy Overwatch casually but its no where near its peak, and completely agree with your Apex take, great gunplay and easily accessible but the amount of times i either get wiped out immediately or loot/run around for 10 mins and then die in 10 seconds really drove me away from the game (and battle royales in general).
I think one thing that helped me get into Valorant (besides starting like 1-2 months after the BETA was done) with the abilties is that I had jumped into the game strait from League of Legends so my brain was used to holding like 400+ abilties that could look different but do similar things or something like that.
I learnt all the Abilities by reading. 😭😭
@@Doggykhlol if you're gamer only thing you read is key words blind, flash and smoke only important😅😂
@@twotwolow2343 you need to read you own comments because the grammar and punctuation are incredibly hard to understand
@@Doggykh sorry mate its auto on my keypad need time changes 😔
@@Doggykh anyway all u need to red blind, flash and smoke 😭😭
Ngl, I thought shazam got a makeover and a brain reset
Valorant feels like a chore to keep up with. You could start silver, work your way up to plat in 3 months, take a break for 1 month, then start back silver again because your mechanics and gamesense are only a month rusty
I can just jump back into OW and I’ll be roughly in the same spot as I had left it
It's quite a bit different from these three games, but I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts on Hunt: Showdown. It's recently had a big surge in concurrent players and it's in a solid state right now. Similar to Valorant, it's got long periods of not much going on, but there's tension as you listen for audio and visual cues and try not to let your guard down as you track down the boss targets.
I think swift play is a mode you would want to play as a new player in addition to deathmatch, team deathmatch and unrated before going into comp.
You complained about not knowing about the different abilities and specific interactions but I think if you play more swift play, you're more likely to come across different agents, maps and general interactions more frequently.
True but swiftplay is also the mode where u meet the most toxic ppl, weirdos and trolls as well as cringey e daters.
Absolutely love these 7 day series SVB - your unique story telling is without a doubt the best in the OW (and wider) community.
Hope you continue having fun playing Val. It was my first fps I played and I started in the summer. Takes quite a while to know everything and even after a few months and 2 acts I'm still grinding to Bronze 1.
Play Paladins next 😅
Fr, 3 hours waiting in que
I haven’t played in a while but I rly liked paladins 😭 the card system is crazy underrated
Hell no
@@turbojake3457played some recently and it’s still really fun, new champs feel underwhelming at least for me, tho VII has some nice movement. Overall I’d say hop on for an afternoon of good vibes
Obviously , i feel like it's the last one of all the games that fell like "fantasy , comic shooter"
Started with overwatch, during the drought I started playing apex and paladins till I swapped to mainly playing apex. Then I swapped to Valorant and paladins, then mostly paladins and smite. Now I’m mostly playing Valorant. I agree with your closing statements, Overwatch definitely has the highest peak in my mind, nothing beats the rush of having a full team of SIX in perfect sync an everyone playing their best hopped up on adrenaline,,, but the peak was long ago and it’s been a while since I’ve had a rush from overwatch. All the hopping from game to game has told me about myself is that overwatch will always be a part of why I play games today, even if it’s not overwatch thag im playing
thank so much, this had made me more confident about my decision and had made me grown to trying things out instead of giving up
im recently new to all three games (started val last year in sept, ow2 this year and apex this year) and personally i would say that apex is the hardest one to feel good at because the skill gap between me and some of the players in my game can sometimes be insane
The thing that makes valorant more attractive to me compared to apex and OW is that it isn't an FPS game, it's a statistic game disguised as an FPS. It's all about using the tools you have to improve your odds at a gunfight so you make hard ones easy af. For example, playing for trades with teammates is huge. Fight a guy by yourself and it's a 50/50 W/L, when playing for trades properly, 80% of the time you die your teammate gets the kill which is a W, so playing with a mate for trades WELL is only an L 20% of the time on average. It's all about the little things like that that add up to round wins and by extension, game wins
Jesus, such a great video series. Bravo!
Love your content man :) Great points and insights as usual
You should try the supposed 'overwatch clone' paladins. You'll feel right at home but that game has enough differences to feel fresh
Love this series
Your day 2-3 frustrations; i imagine this is the same thing someone new to Overwatch goes through also.
True,started when ow 2 dropped and was like this,went from silver to diamond in 3 seasons,relying on your team mates is probably the worst part
I like Valorant even when I get outaimed. My aim is bad but I like making good decisions surprising, the enemies, reading what they're doing, giving info to my teammates even though they basically never do the same getting better at using my util and things like that. I'm also improving my aim but it's very slow progress if I'm playing against good players I just have no chance. But I'll still do my best to try and win :)
This was very helpful! I just built my first PC and am interested in getting into other games besides Genshin and COD (played on mobile), but it is so overwhelming! Maybe it's because I'm a girl and new to gaming on a PC.
I only played Overwatch 1 until Ana was released (mostly playing Reinhard and Roadhog myself) and Apex until Octane was released (playing Gibraltar and Caustic myself) and to be honest, I stopped playing these mostly because I felt like not having any impact at all, even after playing more DD-characters like Reaper or Torbjörn in OW and Lifeline or Wraith in Apex.
What I like a lot towards Valorant is the fact, that, no matter what role you play, even if you play a controller or sentinel, you still have that feeling of having an actual impact, because you do. You have the same guns and "rules" applied to you as every duelist or initiator has. Your abilities might differ, but you can make a very impressive play on a Viper as well as you can on a Jett. I never felt like that on OW or Apex, but maybe that's just me.
The change to 5v5 actually helped this a ton.
Individual players & clutch plays have WAY more impact on the entire battle.
My man just explained overwatch for me
100s of abilities! 100s of characters! 100s of guns! Don't matter 1 shot and you lose or they lose. Need energy shields from Dune or something...
I would love to see either a Warzone or Siege 7 days video!!
I'd love to see if you played halo the series multiplayer and see your thoughts.
Yo you should try siege next, not as colorful but still a similar concept
Lets see if valorant compares to its biggest competitors
CSGO:
CSGO is much more "mechanically hard" that means a global elite aim is like 10 to 15 times better than a radiant
Meanwhile Valorant is "strategically hard" because every agent is different and their abilities can literally change the course of round.
Over-all a global elite can easily reach platinum rank in valorant with raw mechanics.
But a radiant can only reach Master guardian Elite
@@aazeenhussainali786 I know, I tried playing CSGO and it was very hard mechanically, all the sides were basically the same.
Maybe try rainbow 6 next because I feel like it fits in with this group of games to some extent? I used to love that game and I'd love to hear your take on it
Lol...Im exactly thinking the same thing and I am in the same boat as you. Came back to Valorant and those new characters are completely indecipherable and I find it impossible to understand what they do unless I actually read their abilities and test them or watch a video. And I just watched a YT video of a guy saying Overwatch is the most difficult shooter of the 3.....
halfway through the video i realized you play without voicelines that has got to be the most underatted tool in this game where can associate voiceline with ults like overwatch making it easier to adapt to a situation faster
Like a Valorant player, i really enjoyed this video hahhaa
VALORANT were my first shooter and i spent 3 years to reach platinum, i've started in iron, is difficult but that feeling of improve make my still there playing
How are u comparing a stand still to shoot game csgo like.
To jump and move around as fast as u can games?
i desperately need you to do one of these with street fighter 6
Bro have better headshot rate than me 💀
Would love to see one of these for CS2 when it comes out!
for me apex is hardest to get into because anytime im in a fight i get melted in like 1 second or less
"I dont want to read a piece of literature to understand this game" Same with me and Overwatch. Welcome to Gaming 2023. I would also recommend you try out Siege, you can hard carry the team on your own
Maybe in iron it is like this, but in higher elos you rely on your team.
It's a strategy shooter in the end and people who complement their abilities or use strats effectively will crush your team if everyone goes by their own
Yes also no i see some top ranking or pros clutching 3v1 in stream i mean if your good and Lucky you can clutch in any situation
As a person that been playing val since episode 2 I always feel bad for the new players i go against
I've been playing Valorant for the first time and as a console player having to learn M&K as well is tough
Cry about it.
This was a great video. A+ content.
bro was playing on frankfurt and was expecting a normal expirience
Well it’s quite intuitive to shoot animals like gekko flash, skye dog but look away from actual light like breach or phoenix flash
Im surprised u didnt play neon! Shes a super movement based character, plus shes super fun
6:39 brimmy stole the ace lmao
would be funny to see you try paladins im enjoying this series so far
There is no comparison between 2 died games and a game that is one of the best if not the best in all times as an online best i mean
I played Val for about a year before gekko came out, it was so addictive! But I eventually got bored and hit a wall in skill, I took a break and now every time I go back it’s not great. You hop into game and there’s only people who binge play the game sweating their asses off, it ain’t fun. Casual gaming is slowly dying.
the only time i feel cheated in valorant is when there is a smurf on the other side
most of the time though it is just me being bad
though i can not rule out internet issues because i am just barely in range for an antenna, but not enough for a fiber
Great vid
I went from OW2 into Valorant and quit after around 1 Week - it's too hard to learn all the different heroes and so on. As you said, with reading an essay i just don't have the time for it. I just want to play couple of hours under the week and maybe longer on weekend but not reading first and then play. And i tried to learn by playing the game but - i won't say its impossible - but it's quiet near of impossible, the time you have 2 invest into the learning by playing progress is rough and i couldn't effort it so Valorant is in my eyes not friendly for new players.
For OW2 i can't really give an opinion cuz i played since OW1 - from friends i know its "fast" :D Everyone say OW is a "fast" game but they get into it after couple of days by just playing so i would rate Apex > OW2 > Valorant in the friendly for new players
You can just hop into the range and see what each abilitys do
i can feel every word you said
Neon and raze beg to differ for movement
Bro is new to call and still better than me (started playing 2020)
the worst is all the names for each section of the map I wish it was on the minimap :(
It's so funny that Overwatch is so unmarketable that its name wasn't in all caps in the title lmao
I made the switch to val durring the content drought of OW 1 & havent looked back since .
As someone who got an ace on my second day of playing and didn’t know they were that rare, I feel bad for people who’ve never gotten one
They are not that rare.
I stop playing OW since the PVE Drama and enjoy Valorant more than ever. But it only makes fun when you play in a group of friends, playing solo gives you more progress but playing with friends is dope cause I personally don't feel bad when I am bottom fragger and feel greater when I'm better than my friends. In Ow I felt bad either playing with friends and even worse playing alone either I win or loose
Why did you feel bad playing with friends lol
I reaaallllyyy wanna see you play Marvel's Midnight Suns!!
overwatch 2 + Counter Strike 2 = Valorant
good video and most of its is true, especialy the ending... Buuutttt... i have no idea what you were going on about at the start. Like yea, Val can be confusing, but its not nearly as cofusing as OW. I dont play OW that much, but i to this day remember how frustrating and unfair it feels when theyre is more than five abilities on my screen at once and i havent seen half of them in a game, just because there is so many heroes that just dont get played cause META. In Val all the characters see a lot of play. I just think that that portion was realy harsh and could be just copypasted for both of the other games.
You should do paladins next, I liked your critiques and acknowledgement of all aspects of the games in this 7 days series I’d love to see you do paladins.
i stopped playing overwatch 2 to try out valorant and enjoyed massively more and never went back to overwatch 2
Bro that is the fun part about it also you can read what thay do play chamber his fun and ez
U can dodge flashes by looking away 😅
this just convinced me that I'm never going to try this game.
If you are a new player who wants to create content about a game with so many agents, maps and modes in just 7 days, it will be difficult and frustrating but your average newcomer to the game will enjoy plethora of option. I remember playing Valorant and everything I did not knew about the game became the "Amazing" aspect for me. Ofcourse, over the time I learned everything without even trying because I was not on a deadline and it didn't feel like punishment. So I think, an average newb will love the game.
BRO 7 DAYS?!?!?!
IVE BEEN PLAYING FOR 3 MONTHS NOW AND I CANT HIT HEADSHOTS
me who got my first ace after 2 years of playing this game 😭😭
Something I’ve realized is that Val made me better at hitting my shots in any game
Ty!
It's really not that often that they release agents lmfao
Good video though mate!
Those OW twitch number were painful T.T
I have never seen apex being compared to valorant ever
i mean the argument of not knowing what to do could be said the same for overwatch im a Valorant player who tried Overwatch recently and its absolute chaos so its a bit funny the diff XDDDDDD
yo you should do one of these to league of legends.
Im trying to find out which is better, because nobody I meet still activly plays TF2.
Which is still the king of team-based shooters.
Best way to learn a game is to watch other people play it
All 3 of these games are good in there own way people can prefer the different styles and we shouldn’t judge them if their opinions
but ever character based game is confusing right
overwatch is also like wtf is happening if ur new
I played Overwatch then started playing Valorant I like them both lmao
9:05 and that is with default skins
the only problem with valorant is the gubplay is as deep as a puddle u just stop point click with basically all the guns and the amount of obnoxious abilities take away from that sometimes and make it slightly inconsistent i think csgo is way better smgs and pistols u can move around and be less accurate but u can still be affective but the ars and snipers u stand still and click heads its way more intersting
sorry to tell you there is new agent coming LOL
8:56 no so many times I died because I ran be behind a wall and they were still able to hit one pixel and I die
The exodus 😅