A-10C Warthog Vs P-51 Mustang | DOGFIGHT | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |
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How about a Viggen bombing run? Can the older Viggen survive against the F-16/F-15 by using cunning?
Me262 vs p51?
ROFL. So glad you’re worried about overpentration (while firing 30mm AP) …
@@ingoos Great idea. And it's a fight that actually happened.
A-10 vs Spitfire
4 air to air kills, 750 civilian deaths
Spray and pray baby 😆
Poor old gramps came out to see the old bird he flew during bomber escort missions back in the day prove that it could kill modern aircraft, instead he got smoked by a stray 30mm
It's not a GS video without an airframe flying into your house 🤣or a missile in your yard.
🤣
@@JD-86-Eight_Zero Accuracy by volume 😂
Pilot: What was that? Something hit us.
A-10: Damn mosquitos sure are big this time of year.
Pedant: ACKSHUALLY, that was a Mustang, not a Mosquito!
Given that the Mosquito was made of wood, it probably would've shattered...
Only a flesh wound.
Yes, I am aware they are 2 different planes. I guess you missed the joke. Better luck next time.
@@derekedge2089 I was also joking. Lighten up, Francis.
My version would be like:
P-51: well if I can't shoot it, ram it :)
A-10: (whistle's)huh, what was that, eh probably just a mosquito
Ok, now we need GS in the P-51.
Already did that
@@thecobra45 not against an A-10
@@ValentineC137 was the p47
Exactly what I was thinking!
the fact the a10 got hit by an entire plane and can still fly
Tis, but a scratch...
TiS bUt A fLeSh WoUnD!
Titanium bathtub
It simply does not give a shit
Sounds like an A-10 to me. 🤷♂️
People on the ground are like, "Look, the warthog pilot wants to kill Tony, the guy who restored the P-51 for our history club"
The problems that people seem to have forgotten when asking for a matchup!
1) The A-10 is a Jet so it automatically has a speed and vertical advantage despite not having a modern fighter Thrust to Weight Ratio
2) The A-10's mass advantage and 30mm Avenger cannon means that even if the P-51 gets a shot off on the Hog, The A-10 can tank it, The P-51 cannot do the same in return.
If the A-10 got hit with a nuclear weapon and was vaporized, it would just transcend into a plane made of pure energy, and still kill you.
Um. They have the same top speed. Everything else is right though.
Anything everyone forgets about every Aircraft, Skill
@@thedishonoredamerican129 I was thinking more in acceleration terms and in general not just a straight run
@@thedishonoredamerican129 You're not going top speed in a dogfight, so it doesn't matter.
Q: Why was the A-10 never adopted for the Navy?
A: Because it just couldn't catch up to the carrier.
This is my favorite plane joke ever now.
yea mine two
One of the well known problems with the A-10 is it's distinctitive lack of two additional wing mounted GAU-8s.
Otherwise known as reverse.
My dad flew hogs in the Maryland ANG. His buddy flew through powerlines and ripped the canopy and half a wing off and still flew back to base.
Crew chief must have been ecstatic when he saw half a wing off an A10
@@DiaconescuAlexandru2024 Nothing that a little duct tape won't fix.
Martin St Airport?
That must have been one hell of an explanation to the CO.
Wasn’t an EA6 over Italy by any chance?
Can we talk about how beautiful DCS is? It’s looks amazing
NO!
Put it on unreal 5
@@Clarkem1 nobody would be able to run it lmao
@@bobbythomas6520 unreal engine 5 uses Nanites technology... Might be possible
The smoke and explosion effects are severely outdated though.
After the first shots landed in round 1, I was questioning how that pilot is still alive.
round 2: imagine being that P-51 pilot and you try to kill an A-10 by ramming it knowing it's your last chance but not even that kills the A-10
Dang, A10 just *plowed* through that P51 like it was nothing :0
I don't think the A-10 even shook lol
Props to the pilot staying alive and bailing out of the first Mustang.
I almost didn't bother watching this one, but now I'm glad I did. The A-10 is such an awesome aircraft! It may not have been designed to dogfight other aircraft, but can you imagine what it could've done in WWII?
i mean... that is pretty much the type of battlefield it was designed for lol. it was supposed to be the modern IL-2.
@@thecowgod2575 Imagine it hitting Axis ships with modern weapons.
Hey GS, how about a WWII senario to see if a single A-10 could be successful on a mission against the Axis like a wing of B-17s might perform. Just to see what it might have been like if the Allies had the A-10 to go against ground targets, while defending itself against Bf 109s, Fw 190s, and the like.
I think the concept would be cool. But one aircraft would never be able to go up against multiple squadrons of enemy fighters lol.
@@TheNbc27
You might want to do a little research on United States Army Air Corp pilot Richard Candelaria.
@@TheNbc27 Maybe so, but using tactics and the more consistant power of the A-10s engines I think he'd have a chance. Remember the Axis aircraft have no radar so they have to find him first.
@@RenKnight347 I have read about Richard Candelaria, he is evidence that “audentes Fortuna iuvat” or "Fortune favors the bold"
@@jetblast1212 That is an interesting point I didn't consider!
P-51 pilot: _"Ramming speed!"_
His aircraft: _"No wait... WHAT!?"_
Shades of D Day.
When I read the thumb nail I thought for sure you were fighting against the A10 and wondered if you would even get a kill. I watched an A10 demolish an enemy position on a hill in Afghanistan after the Canadian battery had been firing on it. We took incoming and the Canadians went into action and I was standing behind a row off hesco barriers separating us from the battery and you could see the vapor trails and watch the impact on the hill. It was awesome. Then all the sudden the guns stopped and two A10s rolled in and the first took a run with some air to ground missiles. However the second one came in with the 30 and the explosive dust plume was a lot larger than the missiles. It was like the gun was exploding the hill side. Flipping awesome. That gun when fired is so distinct. I started my training at Ft. Leonard Wood Missouri and there was a practice ground close where the A10 would do runs and on FTX's you would here the MAH sound of that gun out in the distance. Those things are so Flippin cool.
Efficient too.
Which is why the REMFs with stars want to get rid of them.
And replace them with a platform that carries less than a quarter of the Hogs load and can't fly in lightning storms.
there is a pipebomb in your toilet
I was actually hoping you'd give Toxic your tail just to see how the A-10 held up to the punishment. Great flying regardless but I'd be curious to see what kind of damage 6 50s could do to the flying tank
Not saying that the P51 would do much damage overall, but an engine's an engine, and control surfaces are moving parts. You put enough rounds into either, you're going to tear something off.
If he hasn't yet I want to see a 47 vs the 10. Grandpa vs grandson. Jug vs Hog.
He did that about a year ago. P-47 won 2 rounds, and the A-10 won 2 rounds. One of his few videos where the outcome was a tie.
Yeah, a Hog against a Spad might be good too.
@@kekelaward Yeah I'd want to see that when the A-1 module comes out.
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Begging for a heart
The GRs did this dogfight a while back and the A-10 lost each time. That might be where all the comments came from.
It is really quite something how the GRs and GS get often wildly different results from aircraft combat comparisons. The GRs are often sort of proudly light on training, so I tend to trust GS, at least when he’s focused (fighting as underdog typically makes him the most focused).
I saw GM's video first so was expecting similar results. Now i don't know what to think. As usual lol.
LOVED the BRRRRRTTTTTT at the end!!!! Well done GS... Well done!! The Cinematic where
it looked like you flew around the Moon was awesome too
A few thoughts. 1) Though I know it's not modeled, I still expected to see a red coating on the inside of the P-51's plexiglass in that first fight. Brutal. 2) The TF34 is a really solid engine and well optimized for low level flight. It has a lot of get up and go below say 18,000 ft. Or at least it does if it behaves like the civilian CF 34. 3) I bet if the P-51 got on your six and peppered both of your engines with AP .50, you would find yourself in the safest best armored glider around.
Engines are still very vulnerable from the front and back, you can armor the nacelles all you want but you can't do anything about the inlet and exhaust. It'd likely only take a few rounds before the engines disassembled themselves.
And with that, GS puts the "ace" in asymmetrical dogfighting. Love that outro, man!
That cracked me up! Thank you
Yessssss I love these prop vs jet dogfights
5:00
I love the P-51 trying to kamikaze the A-10, and the A-10 flying away like nothing happened while the P-51 falls to the ground in flames 😂😂
I'm wondering if its your P-51 pilot and whether he was playing to the P-51's strengths in this fight. You aren't the first to try this match-up in DCS, but you are the first to have the A-10 dominating this way.
I watched another channel so this fight recently and the Mustang dominated. Not sure what to think about it.
@@Lucas12v I was wondering about that too
Might have to do a "best/worst bailouts/ejections" compilation video.
That sounds like some pitiful buzzkill.
The fact that the A10 sliced through the P51 then proceeded to just fly off was fucking hilarious
An A-10 dogfighting has to be one of the craziest ideas I've ever heard.
HELL YEAH!!!😂
When you do these types of match ups you should fly both aircraft. That way the aircraft AND the pilot get evaluated evenly.
The damage models have come so far in DCS. Glad to see you still having fun in the warthog, it's an absolute favorite of mine. Had a lot of fun watching this one!
Mid air damage models still need some work.
Any readable summaries of how the model works/has changed?
As an A10 Structural maintainer I cringe at the sight of the holes in the wing.
Hope that wasn't one of the new wings
Actually got to see both of these planes fly side by side. It was awesome. In so many ways. Amazing that they could fly formation (given the weight and engine differences) and was actually a bit shocked (at the time) at how much bigger the A10 was next to the p51.
Well now that you've mentioned it in the video.. we want an A-10 vs F-22 dogfight
The A-10 versus Warbirds fights I have seen where the A-10 did not dominate were when the A-10 was laden with the extra weight of munitions.
That F22 killmark on that A-10 is a completely flex. That A-10 pilot will be forever bullying the F22 pilot everytime they met.
The 22 driver hasn't committed seppuku yet? Very dishonorable.
And another episode of: "It Could Only Happen Here", brought to you by @Growling Sidewinder. That was fun to watch. Thanks.
The P-51 honestly is NOT nearly as maneuverable as pop culture has led people to think. The laminar flow wing was designed for speed and range, not maneuvering, and didn't generate as much lift as the wing on the Spitfire, or particularly the F4U (which matched the mustang in speed and acceleration).
Now once Leatherneck releases their F4U-1D I'd love to see if it fairs better. The Corsair is much more maneuverable than the Mustang, with a significantly higher rate of roll, and a much better wing for maneuvering
9:00 I have no idea what he did but that was an incredible looking maneuver.
Snap roll. Looked like he pulled a bit too hard while yawing to the left, so his left wing stalled. He got it under control pretty quickly, so it worked out well for him.
Snap roll, kicked the rudder and snapped the stick into his gut. Good maneuver to force the overshoot.
@@17VINCE Awesome man. Do you have a good youtube series or resource for learning more about dogfighting and specific maneuvers?
Air combat tactics and maneuvering is a book that gets recommended a lot.
"The Air Combat Tutorial Library" is a great TH-cam channel for lessons.
@@someguy999 Thanks!
I would love to see a ME-262 fight a A-10, i think the P-51 was out classed great video guys keep them coming love your channel.
Round 1 - How the eff did that pilot live??? Can't believe that P-51 survived as many hits it did!
I seem to recall hearing that the main thing people thought when it came to a P51 vs an A10 was about the turn rate in a 2 circle.
P-47 vs P-51 (at high altitude) would be interesting to see. Also worthy to note that in your P-47 vs A-10 video, the P-47 won 2 of those 4 rounds.
Depends on the exact versions, the P-51 should have the advantage up to 25k ft as it's generally the better dogfighter, from there up the Merlin kinda runs out of breath, and the 47s turbo should maintain its power better and give it the advantage.
@@rare_kumiko P-47N vs P-51D is what I was thinking, and yes keep the altitude up high enough that the P-47's turbo comes into play. Both planes have strengths and weaknesses. Be interesting to see how it would play out.
Round 2: P-51 pilot got confused and thought this was War Thunder for a second.
some of the moves the p-51 pilot pulled off were incredible, valiant effort
Loved this match up! First round was hilarious 😂
Good show! I think the P-47 vs the A-10 would be an interesting fight.
That was far more entertaining than I expected. I think I saw a bit of the other pilot's scalp and heair sticking out of that hole on your wing.
Scene: 7:31 -
Crew chief - "Dear lord! That must have been one hell of a bird you ran into".
Growling Sidwinder - "Naaa. It was a horse."
Interesting what you said about "making it interesting". I've been wandering a lot about your insane victory rate in videos. Obviously your an awesome pilot but It'd be cool to see you fly against a superior pilot in a dogfight of equally matched aircraft. Would also be cool if you did some more dogfight vids where you fight in both the featured aircraft in different rounds to see what's plane and what's pilot. As always love the video, yours has been the first channel i check when I open YT for ages now. Keep it up bro :)
Check out the videos where he flew against an actual French fighter pilot.
@@brianwright9514 The gunnery skills at the pro level are something else. They don't miss snap shots.
This. I totally share your opinion. I've been wanting to see him swap planes as well.
It makes me wonder how it will turn out in a A10 VS ME262 match, you've shown us P51 stands almost no chance against 262...
And seeing all these crazy moves makes me feel like P51 is prop version super maneuverability
The 262 only really improves in firepower. It was even LESS maneuverable than the P-51 at low speeds.
262 would be better off doing hit and run passes on the A10. It has a speed advantage, and has a better armament of 4x30mm.
Might manage to scratch the A10s paint job...
262 will have the speed and probably climb rate advantage. A-10 will be more maneuverable. Actually very similar to the P-51 vs Me-262 fight.
I am pretty sure you hit the pilot in that first fight, instant mashed potatoes inside that cockpit... one of those rounds hitting someone must be absolute destruction!
Me after the first kill: agen agen agen! hahaha loving these A10 vids man, very well done.
Loving these videos!! Could you do some more missions with the A-10? What about night time? Keep them videos coming😊 The longer the video, the better.
Imagine being the p51 and just hearing the brrt behind you.
If you hear it, it means the A-10 missed already.
Love that, “that will buff right out”
But then again... remember your P-47 VS A-10 fight? You switched back and forth and pretty much won every round regardless of which plane you were flying. I'd be interested to see this video again but with you in the mustang.
This is what I watch for. Thanks! I'd like to see you run through the best of the WWII fighters and see if you can hand their asses to them as well, or find one that can hand the A10 it's ass. I have seen some dogfights on other channels between German fighters and the A10 that didn't go so well. Their cannon can do a fair bit more damage with one or just a few hits that the .50s. Anyway a series "A10 vs ???." Or maybe a blind merge series where you don't know which WWII era fighter you will face. Finally, I noticed you were flying without other ordnance. How much of an improvement is that?
It definitely helps to not be carrying around any excess weight.
@@benn454conversely, putting a Maverick up the azz of a FW-190 would be epic…🤣😂👍
I wonder if you can configure the A-10 for 30mm HE (high explosive) and what you might be able to do with differential thrust.
You has me laughing my butt off. “That will buff right out.”
Been wanting to comment on this but kept forgetting. Your song/Music choices for replays and intro/Outro. Is spot on.
I wouldn't mind seeing a video of the Hog versus an IL2 Sturmovik...☺
Hehe 37mm vs 30mm. That would be pretty interesting.
Should try a 109G or K, or Spit MkIX
Ohh mannn that was fantastic. Great slow-flying that A-10 against the P51!
Nicely Done!
Funny comment about your "Giving you all she's got, captain" remark - James Doohan who played Scotty on Star Trek (where the line is credited) was in the Canadian artillery in WWII then trained as a pilot to be an airborne artillery spotter. Granted, he never flew the P-51 but still, pretty neat dovetail there!
Awesome video as always !!! Could you do P-47 vs. A-10 ? That would be epic.... Thanks !!
Uhh... He already did.
Why wouldn’t the P-51 try for the 2 circle?
I love how the A-10 is barely scathed from a midair with a P51 🤣🤣
Great video, thanks for taking us along. This is the exact opposite of how I would’ve thought this would go. The A10 is impressive!
It would be interesting to see how many P-51's the A-10 could take on, especially if that 50 cal struggles to do enough damage
No, how about how many p 51 rams can the a10 take
That would be fairly entertaining. Start 1v1 and start adding adversaries...
So A-10 wins over P-51, and P-51 wins over F-22... Can A-10 take on F-22 easily then? ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
He did show a picture of an A-10 having an F-22 kill mark, so.....
Stands to reason....
@@jackson-pl5zg That F-22 kill mark could have had a corresponding dozen A-10s on the F-22 he/she shot down in the exercise. That's why you do exercises - to learn. I does not tell you anything about plane capabilities where the skilled pilots are aware of their opponents strengths/weaknesses
@08:26 you should do 3 rounds in each earcraft. 3 in the A-10 3 in the P-51; that way we can see if it was Pilot skill or the plane
There was another DCS video showing the A-10 being decimated by the P-51. It’s the difference in pilots that tells the story here. Great job.
This actually makes a lot of sense to me. First of all the P-51 was the hot ship boom and zoomer for it's time. The A-10 took design cues from the A-1 Skyraider, you can really see it most in the wing profile. A-1 Skyraider was perfect for loiter and flying dump truck missions... but a Skyraider engaged a MiG-17 in 1966 over Vietnam and scored a gun kill. If a MiG-17 can lose to an A-1 Skyraider it's an easy connect for a P-51 outside it's envelope to lose to an A-10.
As usual, the editing and production values are on-point. Brilliant flying and amazing video.
A-10C Warthog Vs P-51 Mustang be like -
the guy who wears jacket in summer vs the guy who wears shorts in winter
two legends of their own times and era
"They sure don't make them like they used to"
"Yeah, no you're right. We have titanium now"
You should fly the P-51 against the A10 to show it is not the pilot error!
That was brutal to watch!
It seemed more of a “David vs Goliath” type fight with the A-10 bullying the P-51 each time!!
Seeing how low the A-10 got to the ground on that 3rd kill external shot makes me want to see you do the Final Countdown dogfight (Tomcats v Zeroes).
It was cool seeing 1983 get a shoutout! Those bomb stickers on the side were from a single deployment. Good times!
And that was armour piercing rounds. Imagine how quick it would be if you used HE rounds.
It is not the A-10 or F-22, any jet you gets in, the other chap usually winds up dead! this is the skill of the best DCS pilot around. thoroughly enjoyed the video. awesome slow speed dog fight
I think he's secretly a DCS asset.
I feel like atleast in situations like this where it's very one-sided it would be cool to get an extra round with you in the apparent underdog aircraft
The P51 ramming the A10 reminded me of the time when i was playing football in 8th grade PE class. A guy who was a foot shorter and about 70lbs lighter than me tried to tackle me and broke his own collar bone in the process while i barely noticed and scored the touchdown.
"Kinda felt like I hit bird"
Oof. The disrespect
P-51: 😥
The P-51 Lizard drops its tail to escape into the ground
Love hearing your satisfied laughter after each kill. 😂. Great stuff!!
The P-51 was pulling some sick-ass maneuvers.
Round 1 gave me a chuckle, thank you. Giant holes and then the P-51 tail said: "Yo...peace, I'm out, P-51 tail goes pop-pop!"
I spoke too soon, round 2 was even more funny. "He killed himself on me." You just needed to end it with a disgusted "Eww...Gross!" at the end. : )
I love the gun firing in the outro. It's a beautiful noise, unless it's intended for you.
I can't believe the damage that P-51 is taking from the 30 mm and still flying. Damn! GS, switch aircraft and see how much 50 cal the A-10 can take before a single wing or engine decided to come off.
I can feel the frustration from the P51 pilot XD
You always choose the best music for the kill shot replay. Awesome video
when free bird kicks in
That 3rd fight looked like an airshow for a bit!
*Good job on the music and editing.* Love these vids.