That police officer in the second story is so humble. Sir, you saved their lives along with the other officer! It’s your job, but you chose to serve your community! Thank you for that!
No, I was confused too. If it says lesbian triangle you don't expect an ex boyfriend. It would be better if they said wlw triangle but I kinda get why they didn't. Lol
I just thought the title was unnecessary…I’ve never heard of a video being titled “straight love triangle”…just “love triangle” would’ve been just fine.
They’re not searching for a solution… it’s usually a combination of mental illness and narcissistic tendencies… these two are two points of the spectrum. So it’s different for all cases… the mental illness alone has a vast range and each would have a very different outcome.. what an average nonviolent person calls "Thinking" or a Solution is a different thing from what a murderer would call or say.. it’s just so sad and scary 😢
That part! If she would’ve at least *TRIED* to accept her daughter’s sexuality, then maybe she would’ve recognized her own daughter was about to snap. When she said “they never left the basement except to shower” Told me, she probably tried her best to split them up. Especially because she said “i had to let the gf move in to keep Erin close to me”
I mean you gotta understand how hard it would have to be for a mum to see the person that could kill someone when it's so out of character. Most parents will go to bat for their kid unless they were psychotic as children
Erin's mama is totally in denial as many patents are! Keep talking with your children! You will learn more about them than you could know. Then accept it and help them! Parenting never stops at 18❣️🙏🇺🇲
Sometimes we want to preserve our relationship with our children above God, they come first, but this is what happens!! God's direction should always come first!!
Be ready to go to heaven. When news companies are targeting Christian people and Florida and Texas just cause ultra conservative. We do not live in a free country. Trump 2024.
??? What were you watching Sir??? They said they hired him to kill someone's wife... It wasn't his wife. Sometimes you got to watch it over buddy, if you're not able to pay much attention.
I honestly don’t know what some judges are thinking when they rule on a decision to let attempted murders or assault perpetrators go, only to finish the job they started.
@vainw3694 Maybe I wasn't clear, or maybe you need to go back and watch it again. But I wasn't wrong. Anyway, remember that he served 5 years for the conspiracy of murder for hire (of someone's wife to whom you are referring)? He was then released from prison. He showed signs of reforming. Then he married the woman with three children. As he and the marriage fell apart, he regressed to his old ways and violently choked and threatened her life. The police arrested him. At this point, he was a convicted violent felon. The judge, who obviously knew this, let him out on bail anyway. While out on bail, he killed his wife and remains at large. If the judge had not let him out on bail, she would be alive today. I'm pretty sure this is the story.
@@vainw3694he still tried to murder someone. Doesn’t really matter if it was his wife or not. Only served 5 years. Then got out on bail after he choked his wife. That’s the point he was trying to make.
In the second case , I feel like Eric’s mother is an enabler. Why will you go tell the first victim that your son nearly killed & her children that he says he’s sorry while the psychopath has not even uttered a word of apology!! Bad parenting.😡😡
The mother of an adult child doesn't have any responsibility to apologize to the victims at all. She did this because she is a kind person and is a woman of God. The blame, all of the blame, belongs to the perpetrator of the crime. Regardless of how good or bad our parents are/were, when we become adults, we make our own lives. I feel so bad for the mother who has built such a good reputation in the community (everyone who spoke of her, even law enforcement says this), and her son does these heinous things. I feel bad for her, but not because I think it is her fault. I feel bad because her son destroyed her life.
I can’t believe how Erin involves the cousin’s bf Bill Nair in the crime by asking him how to load the gun and THEN volunteers his name when the police didn’t even know his name. Unbelievable!!!
I was on Erin’s mom side until she said that erin was a religious Christian even though she’s a lesbian and then said that her daughter isn’t evil even though she shot someone in the head and then beat her face in with a claw hammer, but she’s no a bad person. Okay mom, now you sound crazy.
Well, the mother was righteous and narcissistic all at the same time. And all religion, it may be sometimes too much religion. I think the mother was controlling and abusive towards her daughter. Not physically, but emotionally abusive. And it is all about the mom, and her presenting herself as a victim.
Some people will finally snap if being MISTREATED/ABUSED for a long enough time, it doesn't mean that they're a bad person! Mind you, it's not just "someone", it's a CHEATING & ABUSIVE partner, unless you know both of them well to testify that the abuses didn't happen! The way you choose your narratives already tells your agenda PROTECTING/BLEACHING CHEATERS! Even the other two interviewed also said good things about her.
Erin be lying. & sure enough , she admitts to it so coldly too .. & the mom talking about how she isn't capable of something like that, clearly she is lady...
First thing I noticed is his lack of smile. Many women shut the conversation down that women need to reevaluate their choices. Many Pastors children are the most troubled.
I hate when people (especially women) are like ‘you can’t help who you fall in love with blah blah blah’ bc you do have a choice. I am a woman too and I understand love in itself is never enough 🤷🏼♀️
Compromising your beliefs and allowing your daughter to shack up in your house wasn’t a good idea. Trying to watch and control your daughter was YOUR biggest mistake. Grown folks are going to do what they WANT to do.
2nd story, look at every pic of Janina & Eric, he isn’t smiling in any of them, even the wedding one! UNBELIEVABLE some women believe this type of pos will change! Gullible? Why would the parole board parole him after just 5 years? He tried to burn up a mother & 2 children, 20 years! He earned his freedom in 5 years? Wow, that’s infuriating. I feel for Janina’s kids, they suffer the most. Wish April would have been smarter & advised her not to be involved with him. Very sad. Rest with angels Janina.🙏❤️
This is so f*cked up I can*t even follow the story. I don't understand why people do this to themselves in the first place. How can you live in such an emotional mess?!
And this women put the lives of her own children at risk with an attempted murderer for " LOVE"!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? I AM SO ANGRY! I only have sympathy for her children.
If there was any Truth in Sentencing this Murderer would have been i Prison for 20 years but as we know there is No Real Justice and the people Responsible for Releasing this Criminal after 5 years are Never Held Accountable
I cannot imagine being in the shoes of police officers and especially detectives! Not only do they see some gruesome scenes, but they then have to constantly relive it, while getting to really know the victim and their family until the case is solved! And even then, it’s seared into their minds/memory for life. I can barely handle watching a news clip on the TV/internet of a heinous crime and seeing the loved ones who have to go through it, let alone seeing the actual crime in person, the wounds inflicted upon the victims and then getting to know the victims (whether deceased or alive) and their families on a personal level. It’s just cruel!!! Then on the other hand, I can’t imagine, nor do I ever want to know, what it must feel like for the families of the victims! What they must be going through losing a loved one at the hands of someone else, let alone, knowing all the details about the crime and their loved ones suffering! Gosh, that would be so hard to live with!!!!
31:30 I hate that pseudo-wisdom that claims you only hurt yourself if you don't forgive everyone for anything they did regardless of the circumstances. No, the unrepentant deserve no forgiveness.
The 1st video seems like the Mom was in so much denial. Its obvious when she says "She isnt capable of killing"- she Clearly is capable of killing. Is it just me or is there More crime going on or is it cuz more are getting reported? Its just horrible so many people can do what they do...scary world we live in 😩
She knew exactly who she was walking form the isle to. She chose to ignore the fact that he was a violent felon. And it is absolutely possible to decide who you fall in love with and if you continue loving them. Love is a decision and an action.
This woman was probably wild as well 🤣 he didn't even act like a womanizer, he looked like a piece of COLD ROTTEN MEAT! 🤣 Some women just get attracted to WEIRD things!
It’s crazy I went to ETSU and never heard anything about that murder. That’s crazy. RIP TO THAT BEAUTIFUL MOM 🫶🏾 PRAYERS for her kids. I thought the two oldest looked very familiar..
My ex girlfriend said the same thing ......she let her the daughter boyfriend move into her bedroom for she could keep a eye on her. If she refused she wouldn't know what unsafe place her daughter would be sleeping in. The good in everyone is one of the stupidest a woman says
I think it’s bc she told him of her intentions. He claimed he didn’t believe her, or take it seriously, but he did go on to instruct her…for whatever that’s worth…
11:00 So the killer murdered Tori next to her girlfriend in bed and then leave Erin unharmed, making her a witness to the crime? It doesn't seem logical at all… then right away she says the masked person looks like Cody.. very suspicious
People need to stop attaching themselves this much to other people. Grow up and learn that most people are all over the place With their lives. Don't mess your life up over another.
How in the heck is it possible for pre-meditation to be "outside of her control"? Its not unfortunate! She planned and carried out a murder! She went to prison for life! For omce, the freakin system worked! And the Mom was actually wondering what happened?! Really?! Just because you bring your kids to church and go overboard with forcing them to be there all the time, doesnt mean they actually have a relationship with Christ! Theres a difference!
Normalise victim blaming at this point 🙄. The second story is wild, someone capable of murder for hire of a mum and her KIDS is evil. You forgive and marry them 😒
The Mother didn't stick to her principles. She should have never approved of her daughter living in the basement with another woman. She went against her beliefs and now she's lost her daughter forever! Never weaken on your beliefs
Parents that try to use being a christian to justify homophobia cant show you nowhere in the bible that shows how to or who to fall in love with. The Bible promotes a lot of bigotry and close mindedness
I think Erik mother knows where he is or she’s talking to him. There’s no way she’s not. I don’t care if he was Jesus son, I could never date a man that tried to kill a mother an her kids. He should have been in jail
Can’t imagine how much Erin’s mom disapproves gays now. 🤷🏻♀️ The murderer’s mom happy to do an interview, show no remorse and victim blame. I know this was 15-20 years ago and being on TV seemed intriguing but this one wasn’t it ma’am.
The last thing I found was in November 2023 he was still missing ( 7 years on). They think he has various aliases. Some woman somewhere knows who he is; that is sure. Incredible that he has not been located to date.
Yeah. The title is misleading. It would've been interesting if that was the case. But, like, why did Erin have to snitch on her cousin? It won't diminish her responsibility. She's a jerk.
@@peaceforall1291 Yes Sir , because I can take care of myself . Since Tori is dead and Erin is imprisoned we can't see the two dogs anymore, so I just wonder ! Sir, these dogs were living happily in the basement and because of human madness and jealousy they lost everything !
Love, innocence and betrayal. We often have to accept our children on their terms. i feel for all parties here and have experienced such trauma by the loss of two children. One aged 17 and the elder just 22. Someone was charged with manslaughter in relationship to the eldest but i hold his so called friends accountable for bullying and leading him into a dangerous situation. Allowing them to live in the basement was a brave but loving action and I would have wanted the same. Without that third party this would never of happened, even more painful knowing he had been attached to both girls. That really must of unbalanced her. Loving someone so deeply yet not having her commitment must of really hurt. On another day with a different set of circumstances i doubt that this would have ever happened. One could feel the hurt both from parents and even the defending attorney. Sometimes we wish we could reverse the situation, im feeling that for you all presently. I cannot suggest away out of this but i can offer you my prayers in the hope that your love never wavers. Tank you for expressing your inner feelings and for allowing us to be a part of your situation during this difficult time. This is echoed with love.
That police officer in the second story is so humble. Sir, you saved their lives along with the other officer! It’s your job, but you chose to serve your community! Thank you for that!
Why does it say "murder of ex-boyfriend" when it was actually the girlfriend who was murdered?
EXACTLY!!!
Boyfriend girlfriend he she 🤷♀️
😂@@IndigoCave28
Stupid Pronouns. Lmao.
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was anyone else confused by the title after like 10 minutes in? because i was expecting a whole different victim because of it.
No, I was confused too.
If it says lesbian triangle you don't expect an ex boyfriend.
It would be better if they said wlw triangle but I kinda get why they didn't.
Lol
@@jennifervan75What is w/w?
I just thought the title was unnecessary…I’ve never heard of a video being titled “straight love triangle”…just “love triangle” would’ve been just fine.
@@TalLeGal WLW
Women Loving Women
It's a term for lesbians,bi or pan.
Just for any woman who loves women.
@@SeanShimamoto true
2nd story. Attempts to burn a mother and her two children to death in their home and serves a mere 5 years out of 20 only to kill again. Ridiculous!
First story, mother so out of touch. My daughter isn't capable of killing! REALLY, did you tune out her very own confession?!?!? WTF
@@youuuknooow7699she also didn't think she was capable of liking women
"Democrat" judge.
It's RIDICULOUS she would consider dating him let alone marry him.
Racial privilege at its best
Why does anybody think murder is a solution for any situation?
because they are not thinking.
They’re not searching for a solution… it’s usually a combination of mental illness and narcissistic tendencies… these two are two points of the spectrum. So it’s different for all cases… the mental illness alone has a vast range and each would have a very different outcome.. what an average nonviolent person calls "Thinking" or a Solution is a different thing from what a murderer would call or say.. it’s just so sad and scary 😢
They get it from movies
They don’t. They aren’t thinking rationally
Impulsivity is a problem. Plus, people think others have gotten caught, but THEY won't!
Giving someone like Jones a measured second chance is one thing. Marrying them and taking them in to live among your children is profoundly unwise.
Yep. I was thinking "what a foolish lady".
This! All because his mother is a pastor. I wouldn’t care if Jesus himself told me he was the one for me, I’m not going
Erin’s mother didn’t believe her daughter could be a lesbian,either.
Not a huge fan of the lady.
That part!
If she would’ve at least *TRIED* to accept her daughter’s sexuality, then maybe she would’ve recognized her own daughter was about to snap.
When she said “they never left the basement except to shower”
Told me, she probably tried her best to split them up. Especially because she said “i had to let the gf move in to keep Erin close to me”
@@emilymiguel8198Agreed.
Sounds like she doesn’t know her daughter at all smh
Christianity makes otherwise reasonable people blind.
"Lesbian love triangle ends in murder of ex-boyfriend" ??????? - not all lesbians, not a triangle, was not the ex-bf
exactly, don't implicate that man, they just wanted a wild title for the video, should've said something like nutty lover and airhead cousin
Ah, they do that everytime
Makes you wonder how much else is misinformation
😂😂😂😂😂yeah only two of them were Lesbians :)))The boyfriend is still alive thanks to god :))))
She is really sick no remorse for anything:(((.
The mother of Erin is disgusting she seems to be blaming Tori for her own murder!
Right! Her daughter is so devoted Christian that she can't do such a thing as killing someone. It must be Tory who killed herself, obviously.
Exactly
What can one expect from an evil family
If it was a man she killed, would it be just as disgusting?
I mean you gotta understand how hard it would have to be for a mum to see the person that could kill someone when it's so out of character. Most parents will go to bat for their kid unless they were psychotic as children
Erin's mama is totally in denial as many patents are! Keep talking with your children! You will learn more about them than you could know. Then accept it and help them! Parenting never stops at 18❣️🙏🇺🇲
Sometimes we want to preserve our relationship with our children above God, they come first, but this is what happens!! God's direction should always come first!!
Wouldn't a lesbian love triangle imply that all participants are women?.. Weird choice of words for the title. 😂
Be ready to go to heaven. When news companies are targeting Christian people and Florida and Texas just cause ultra conservative. We do not live in a free country. Trump 2024.
That’s what I thought.There was actually a bisexual,a lesbian,and a straight man.Not easy to put in a title.
@eh-i1841 That's why love triangle would have simply worked.
Yes but they want to create a titillating clickbait title! Accuracy isn’t helpful in that regard lol
@@j.b.l.0-f3zyeah but if it didn’t have lesbian in it I don’t think many people would’ve clicked on this video lol
Murder for hire, but he has changed? No one changes that much.
The judge let a violent ex con who had just attempted to murder his wife out on bail? WTH?
??? What were you watching Sir??? They said they hired him to kill someone's wife... It wasn't his wife. Sometimes you got to watch it over buddy, if you're not able to pay much attention.
I honestly don’t know what some judges are thinking when they rule on a decision to let attempted murders or assault perpetrators go, only to finish the job they started.
Liberalism.
@vainw3694 Maybe I wasn't clear, or maybe you need to go back and watch it again. But I wasn't wrong. Anyway, remember that he served 5 years for the conspiracy of murder for hire (of someone's wife to whom you are referring)? He was then released from prison. He showed signs of reforming. Then he married the woman with three children. As he and the marriage fell apart, he regressed to his old ways and violently choked and threatened her life. The police arrested him. At this point, he was a convicted violent felon. The judge, who obviously knew this, let him out on bail anyway. While out on bail, he killed his wife and remains at large. If the judge had not let him out on bail, she would be alive today. I'm pretty sure this is the story.
@@vainw3694he still tried to murder someone. Doesn’t really matter if it was his wife or not. Only served 5 years. Then got out on bail after he choked his wife. That’s the point he was trying to make.
Just cause you always go in to church don't mean CHURCH is "in" you..✝️🛐
Maybe Religion is "in" you.
And the only difference between a Religion and a Cult is the number of followers.
believe in Jesus, that is all.
The devil is everywhere
Unless you're a little kid & the priest wants to have some alone time with you. 🤮
@@beachbabe75 Devils only subject for Bible believers and religious fanatics....others' know enough to not use "Devil" for senseless justification
You don't have to forgive. You don't have to trust. Stay safe.
Forgiving is for the victim, Consequences and forgiveness are for the perpetrator.
In the second case , I feel like Eric’s mother is an enabler. Why will you go tell the first victim that your son nearly killed & her children that he says he’s sorry while the psychopath has not even uttered a word of apology!! Bad parenting.😡😡
i agree, makes me question her alittle.
I didn’t hear that I heard she said she was sorry .. time stamp ?
The mother of an adult child doesn't have any responsibility to apologize to the victims at all. She did this because she is a kind person and is a woman of God. The blame, all of the blame, belongs to the perpetrator of the crime. Regardless of how good or bad our parents are/were, when we become adults, we make our own lives. I feel so bad for the mother who has built such a good reputation in the community (everyone who spoke of her, even law enforcement says this), and her son does these heinous things. I feel bad for her, but not because I think it is her fault. I feel bad because her son destroyed her life.
So the judge who let him out should be guilty too
It's not a "judge" who let him out early, it's the board of parole, ignorant!
@@Western_ENT…WOW… WHAT HAPPENED TO YOU THAT YOU WERE NOT TAUGHT TO BE KIND AND NOT CALL PEOPLE NAMES FOR JUST SPEAKING THEIR OPINIONS…??!! BE KIND….
@@i.i.3399 If you're KIND enough, you wouldn't ACCUSE an INNOCENT without doing some research about it, HYPOCRITE!
There seems to be a theme here. Being raised in a religious household doesn't mean you wont turn out to be a complete monster.
WOW, that "church going little good girl" certainly was an Angry little bi ch 😅
I can’t believe how Erin involves the cousin’s bf Bill Nair in the crime by asking him how to load the gun and THEN volunteers his name when the police didn’t even know his name. Unbelievable!!!
I was on Erin’s mom side until she said that erin was a religious Christian even though she’s a lesbian and then said that her daughter isn’t evil even though she shot someone in the head and then beat her face in with a claw hammer, but she’s no a bad person. Okay mom, now you sound crazy.
Well, the mother was righteous and narcissistic all at the same time. And all religion, it may be sometimes too much religion. I think the mother was controlling and abusive towards her daughter. Not physically, but emotionally abusive. And it is all about the mom, and her presenting herself as a victim.
Some people will finally snap if being MISTREATED/ABUSED for a long enough time, it doesn't mean that they're a bad person! Mind you, it's not just "someone", it's a CHEATING & ABUSIVE partner, unless you know both of them well to testify that the abuses didn't happen! The way you choose your narratives already tells your agenda PROTECTING/BLEACHING CHEATERS! Even the other two interviewed also said good things about her.
@@miraheil5521Christianity at least, keeps moral and spiritual order in society. Your view is ridiculous.
Oh yeah, that's why there's church's flying the rainbow mafia flag.@@AnastasiaRomanov-w9x
Sentenced to 20 yrs, only served 5, wtf?????
Erin be lying.
& sure enough , she admitts to it so coldly too .. & the mom talking about how she isn't capable of something like that, clearly she is lady...
Ikr! 🙄
In total denial.
Why does it matter if they were raised religious or go to church?! That means absolutely nothing
Because you'd expect them to 'love thy neighbour' or 'shalt not murder', seems you're right it does mean nothing :D
I love true crime daily
Why is it stopping
That girl didn't have one ounce of upset or remorse, not any emotion at all, when she explained what she did to kill the girl. Unbelievable.
First thing I noticed is his lack of smile. Many women shut the conversation down that women need to reevaluate their choices. Many Pastors children are the most troubled.
I hate when people (especially women) are like ‘you can’t help who you fall in love with blah blah blah’ bc you do have a choice. I am a woman too and I understand love in itself is never enough 🤷🏼♀️
Showing up to Aaron Jones's mother's home feels DISGUSTING!!! She didn't commit any crimes! Leave that lady alone!
Did anyone else notice that Erik Jones, in all the pictures that were shown, not once did he smile!
That’s how messed up he is in the head, he’s exactly where he belongs
OMG! Just exactly what I thought! Attitude.
Mother’s love can be so blinded. Her daughter committed a crime and yet she claimed her daughter not capable such acts.
"I thought about how much I wanted to be with her"... says the crazy woman who destroyed her girlfriend's face with a claw hammer 😶
Justice is everything
That's like sooooo deep brah woooow! 🤯
She will have plenty of girlfiends in prison
Ah fuck I dropped the soap, better hope nobody makes me their jailhouse bitch when I bend over to pick it up-
Compromising your beliefs and allowing your daughter to shack up in your house wasn’t a good idea. Trying to watch and control your daughter was YOUR biggest mistake. Grown folks are going to do what they WANT to do.
The title says murder of ex BOYFRIEND… not accurate
Bad title. Misleading too.
5 years for 3 Lives he almost took
I couldn’t believe it. No life in prison? And he only served a quarter of his term? 😢
Liberalism.
@@judahsoremy9857 That's your excuse?
@@Lauren-wo6rf "Excuse"? No, that's objectively THE REASON why.
If he’d completed his time in jail she probably would’ve never married him and would’ve been alive to care for her kids.
All i can say is the female reporters going into danger areas to get an interview are pretty gusty. 👍🏼
'Any' reporter going into danger is 'Gusty'
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I think they always have security with them. I doubt they would go alone.
2nd story 💯 RED FLAGS he’s not even smiling in any picture you can see pure evil in his eyes!!!
The Title is a Lie.... As Usual.
Preachers kids are the worst. Be leary of them.
they still haven't found eric jones...thats crazy
Hyper-religious communities are a treasure trove for true crime.
How do parents get so out of F'n touch with their kids?!?!🥴🙄
You mean kids or adults? Mines are adults and I don’t get in their business at all.
@@heather4089 "mines"?
@@nuckinfuts7610She wrote how she speaks get over it! It is TH-cam not UNI.
Totally controlling mother!
@youuuknooow7699, I was wondering the exact same thing
Watching your shows from the Philippines 🤞❤️
Really? Want to be my mail order bride?
@@johnrandolph6121 wow! You are straight up rude!
@@elsazion5332 That hurt my feelings. You are mean! Do you want to meet for a drink?
Misleading ... incorrect title! Nothing happened to the BF!
How painful that many parents have to realize their children are no longer what they thought when it's too late.
2nd story, look at every pic of Janina & Eric, he isn’t smiling in any of them, even the wedding one! UNBELIEVABLE some women believe this type of pos will change! Gullible? Why would the parole board parole him after just 5 years? He tried to burn up a mother & 2 children, 20 years! He earned his freedom in 5 years? Wow, that’s infuriating. I feel for Janina’s kids, they suffer the most. Wish April would have been smarter & advised her not to be involved with him. Very sad. Rest with angels Janina.🙏❤️
This is so f*cked up I can*t even follow the story. I don't understand why people do this to themselves in the first place. How can you live in such an emotional mess?!
Women ☕
Doesn't mean you always go to church you can't be a criminal!.that means you really dont know what's ur daughter capable of doing.
Erin’s mother seems to be malignant narcissist
And this women put the lives of her own children at risk with an attempted murderer for " LOVE"!? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? I AM SO ANGRY! I only have sympathy for her children.
If there was any Truth in Sentencing this Murderer would have been i Prison for 20 years but as we know there is No Real Justice and the people Responsible for Releasing this Criminal after 5 years are Never Held Accountable
I cannot imagine being in the shoes of police officers and especially detectives! Not only do they see some gruesome scenes, but they then have to constantly relive it, while getting to really know the victim and their family until the case is solved! And even then, it’s seared into their minds/memory for life. I can barely handle watching a news clip on the TV/internet of a heinous crime and seeing the loved ones who have to go through it, let alone seeing the actual crime in person, the wounds inflicted upon the victims and then getting to know the victims (whether deceased or alive) and their families on a personal level. It’s just cruel!!!
Then on the other hand, I can’t imagine, nor do I ever want to know, what it must feel like for the families of the victims! What they must be going through losing a loved one at the hands of someone else, let alone, knowing all the details about the crime and their loved ones suffering! Gosh, that would be so hard to live with!!!!
31:30 I hate that pseudo-wisdom that claims you only hurt yourself if you don't forgive everyone for anything they did regardless of the circumstances. No, the unrepentant deserve no forgiveness.
Where was her father in this all?
The 1st video seems like the Mom was in so much denial. Its obvious when she says "She isnt capable of killing"- she Clearly is capable of killing. Is it just me or is there More crime going on or is it cuz more are getting reported? Its just horrible so many people can do what they do...scary world we live in 😩
Women aren’t the best with accountability
I think that w the explosion of the true crime genre on TH-cam, we’re just hearing about way more cases than we otherwise would.
Abuse simply has no gender!!
Someone misunderstood the assignment to the title
Hate when people say "she/he would never do that" they fcking did tho!!!! I dont care of they ahnd out gifts it doesnt mean they are not garbage
Title is misleading!
Not that it matters but C'MON!
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She knew exactly who she was walking form the isle to. She chose to ignore the fact that he was a violent felon. And it is absolutely possible to decide who you fall in love with and if you continue loving them. Love is a decision and an action.
Yeah, I mean, was this shocking to anyone?
This woman was probably wild as well 🤣 he didn't even act like a womanizer, he looked like a piece of COLD ROTTEN MEAT! 🤣 Some women just get attracted to WEIRD things!
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It’s crazy I went to ETSU and never heard anything about that murder. That’s crazy. RIP TO THAT BEAUTIFUL MOM 🫶🏾 PRAYERS for her kids. I thought the two oldest looked very familiar..
My ex girlfriend said the same thing ......she let her the daughter boyfriend move into her bedroom for she could keep a eye on her. If she refused she wouldn't know what unsafe place her daughter would be sleeping in. The good in everyone is one of the stupidest a woman says
If religion prevents committing crimes , pple who are religious wouldn't commit crimes. Erins mom is so gullible smh😂
I don't understand how the guy who told her how to load a gun got a charge...
I think it’s bc she told him of her intentions. He claimed he didn’t believe her, or take it seriously, but he did go on to instruct her…for whatever that’s worth…
a love triangle with 4 people?! mathematically improbable
A love rectangle
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A love square 😮
11:00 So the killer murdered Tori next to her girlfriend in bed and then leave Erin unharmed, making her a witness to the crime? It doesn't seem logical at all… then right away she says the masked person looks like Cody..
very suspicious
People need to stop attaching themselves this much to other people. Grow up and learn that most people are all over the place With their lives. Don't mess your life up over another.
You can look at Eric and seee the evil in him.
Another crazy evangelical family... I'm shocked lol
'Ends in the murder of Ex Boyfriend' ...except its the current girlfriend who is murdered ..?
Maybe she used he/him pronouns?
That’s why u shouldn’t cheat people b crazy if u don’t like someone leave. Don’t fuck both of u over.
How in the heck is it possible for pre-meditation to be "outside of her control"? Its not unfortunate! She planned and carried out a murder! She went to prison for life! For omce, the freakin system worked! And the Mom was actually wondering what happened?! Really?! Just because you bring your kids to church and go overboard with forcing them to be there all the time, doesnt mean they actually have a relationship with Christ! Theres a difference!
2:34 everyone say it with me: going to church does NOT make you a good person. The opposite tends to be more true.
Making broad generalizations about people is cowardly. I would venture to say you are not a very nice person.
@@valorica3210 Making broad generalizations about religion is cowardly. I would venture to say you are not a very nice person.
@@gofeukurself6465 I said nothing about religion. You did. Ergo, my statement stands. Coward.
Normalise victim blaming at this point 🙄. The second story is wild, someone capable of murder for hire of a mum and her KIDS is evil. You forgive and marry them 😒
I. Love three men. But I do not thing they would hurt me they love me to much
The Mother didn't stick to her principles. She should have never approved of her daughter living in the basement with another woman. She went against her beliefs and now she's lost her daughter forever! Never weaken on your beliefs
Parents that try to use being a christian to justify homophobia cant show you nowhere in the bible that shows how to or who to fall in love with. The Bible promotes a lot of bigotry and close mindedness
Love is a choice. Lust is not. Too many people confuse love and lust.
Secret lovers do things ever end well 😩
What are these people thinking while making the title
Haha 😂
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I think Erik mother knows where he is or she’s talking to him. There’s no way she’s not. I don’t care if he was Jesus son, I could never date a man that tried to kill a mother an her kids. He should have been in jail
Damn I was convincned Erin was going to be the one to go. It seemed like they were setting it up for her to bethe victim.
5yrs for attempted muder? Thx "Democrat" judge!
Do not compromise with your kids. If they want grown up decisions, they can take grown up consequences!
Truth
What is the point of all these half tokd stories ? What a waste of tume.
12:12 why would he kill the girl he wanted to be with dont you think itd be the girl she was with he would kill 🤔
church can warp you in negative ways more than partying…
If Tori didn't want her cake and eat to she would be a live in my book. However I do think Erin's mom is in denial
STOP TELLING WOMEN TO WORK THINGS OUT WITH ABUSERS!!!!
Marrying a murderer didn’t pay off? What a shocker
Can’t imagine how much Erin’s mom disapproves gays now. 🤷🏻♀️ The murderer’s mom happy to do an interview, show no remorse and victim blame. I know this was 15-20 years ago and being on TV seemed intriguing but this one wasn’t it ma’am.
I mean, she didn't deserve to be killed. Regardless, I still can't find it within me to feel bad for Tori 🤷🏾♀️
That Eric Jones case was 6-7 years ago! Was he caught?
The last thing I found was in November 2023 he was still missing ( 7 years on). They think he has various aliases. Some woman somewhere knows who he is; that is sure. Incredible that he has not been located to date.
Yeah. The title is misleading. It would've been interesting if that was the case. But, like, why did Erin have to snitch on her cousin? It won't diminish her responsibility. She's a jerk.
Oh, and I also thought that when they said there was a second person involved that it was Erin's boyfriend/lover. Wasn't expecting a cousin.
What happened to the two beautiful dogs in the first story ? I'm anxious .
Nothing happened.
Wow, someone that cares more about the dogs than a human life lost…..
I hope that people around you care more about their dogs than about you.
@@peaceforall1291 Yes Sir , because I can take care of myself . Since Tori is dead and Erin is imprisoned we can't see the two dogs anymore, so I just wonder ! Sir, these dogs were living happily in the basement and because of human madness and jealousy they lost everything !
You are more anxious of the dog than the lives gone?
@@t.seliot5257 thank God you are not my neighbor.
Love, innocence and betrayal. We often have to accept our children on their terms. i feel for all parties here and have experienced such trauma by the loss of two children. One aged 17 and the elder just 22. Someone was charged with manslaughter in relationship to the eldest but i hold his so called friends accountable for bullying and leading him into a dangerous situation. Allowing them to live in the basement was a brave but loving action and I would have wanted the same. Without that third party this would never of happened, even more painful knowing he had been attached to both girls. That really must of unbalanced her. Loving someone so deeply yet not having her commitment must of really hurt. On another day with a different set of circumstances i doubt that this would have ever happened. One could feel the hurt both from parents and even the defending attorney. Sometimes we wish we could reverse the situation, im feeling that for you all presently. I cannot suggest away out of this but i can offer you my prayers in the hope that your love never wavers. Tank you for expressing your inner feelings and for allowing us to be a part of your situation during this difficult time. This is echoed with love.
I pray that no woman dates or becomes Eric Jones victim ever again.
Lesbhonest
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Yuk-yuk-yuk-yuk
Best comment!!!
You Know a lot of these gay sexual relationships seem to end in more bad stuff than hetero
Just an observation.
I gotta agree with you
Bad observation
Most murders are committed in heterosexual relationships don’t start
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I agree.