I bought the X in 2022 (it had all the improvements by then), $45k, added Fulcrum 2" Lift (excellent, $3k), 32" Maxxis Razor Tyres with 18x9 +20 rims (looks tough, $3k), roller cover ($1.3k), GME UHF, ($450) Interior light ($30), Drivers Grab handle ($120), and I just use Sports mode for cruise including when towing my 2T camper, no issues maintaining 115kmh. For lane keep, just enable lane centring, it steers for you and eliminated the jerking, had that on for 14 months now and never think about it its such an improvement.
@peterscrenci3252 hey mate. I've driven both extensively. Both great cars but both have flaws. I guess all cars do, however for me, I couldn't get past a couple issues that impacted me and what I wanted and needed from my car. I pick up my next gen raptor next week and will no doubt find issues also but it seems to suit my needs better mate. In short, if the xsr, had reliable cruise control (up and down hill) and also didn't have the tech issues that it did, I would never have parted with it. I can't help but think, gwm are only a couple more utes away from nailing the perfect Aussie ute at old school prices, which will really cause issues for the bigger brands. Cheers mate
@@AussieDadz thanks for the feedback, mate. I've watched quite a few reviews & finding there are a lot of things GWM, as minor as it is DAB radio is another one. I'm heading towards the Isuzu D-Max but also thinking of the MUX instead. I'm not a tradie just love the dual cabs, but MUX is appealing to me given a few extras compared to the D-Max like more lumbar seats & 20" wheels. Cheers mate keep up the good work, enjoyed your video.
I have a Tank 300 which is the same platform as these Cannons, it's a great car but yeah the cruise control is really annoying, mostly when it comes to cornering. If there's even a slight corner the car can slow down by 10-15kms which is really dangerous, especially on a highway with people behind you. I understand if it's a sharp corner but even a slight bend in the road it reduces the speed even though it would be more than capable of taking the corner at the set speed.
Thanks for the review of all the issues ..one thing that really put me off of purchasing one is that WHY they're not included a lane departing warning on top spec??? Why GWM
I test drove one a few weeks ago. It drove quite well. One thing I couldn't get past was the 360 camera comes on every time you slow to 15kmph. The button would turn it off, but every time you sped up slowed again, it would come back on. It locks you out of using the screen when the camera is on, too. Couldn't even turn the radio down. Was a deal breaker for me
@@sm-r8997 yeah in my experience they don't know much about anything not already on on a vehicle on arrival, it also took a bit more digging to find because it's not in settings you have to have the camera on to look at camera settings. What did you end up getting instead?
the ZF gearbox has the exact same issue with my V6 amarok. I am very certain that fuel consumption wouldn't be sacrificed if it stayed in lower gear for 300rpm longer. I had the another car with VW's own gearbox and a Merc with older 7spd automatic, neither behave like this
I was looking at the xsr for a daily/work Ute for months now and I feel the Vanta is a better fit for me with the option of constant 4x4 for added safety and sports mode for a little more grunt I think your video just sealed it for me I’ll be definitely not be looking at the xsr as a purchase.
What about the front diff lock, how much would that be to put on a vanta or even an X-model. It is the off-road gear where the extra money goes and I have not found anywhere where i can install those crucial off-road hardware for around 10k or less
Of course the front difflock is the exception......Im not certain the benefits of the front diff lock outweigh the other issues for the extended price, but as I always say, this is just my opinion, and I certainly encourage you to buy one if it's the right fit for you. Overall the car is a winner for its price, when compared to the competition, however in reflection, I would have grabbed the vanta- just my opinion. I appreciate the feedback.
@@AussieDadz Thanks for the quick reply, appreciate it. I was kinda hoping you would say it is possible and change my mind. 😅 My biggest disappointment is that it doesn't have AWD, If I could install everything that the XSR has for under 12k, I would get the Vanta or the X-model.
@user-fi5iq5ws5i Check out savage teck online and youll def be surprised at how much you can retrofit and save yourself. The vanta is AWD. Exclude the front diff, and you've really only got a few other cosmetic mods....the tank mode is negligible, same as the crawl mode, which can be achieved almost aswell through the throttle controller at 234 bucks fitted. Honestly though bud if front diff is a sticking point for you then def the xsr is a solid buy, but if it's not, I'd crack on with the vanta. I costed up the mods retrofitted for much less than 12k. Good luck with it all mate
what a time to be alive, when I was a kid my mum had awesome biceps from driving around a long bed late 80s Bravo Mazda ute with no power steering and honestly no power; 60kw tops. 120w is plenty for a ute that cheap that comes with AC and a bed of any kind.
IMO the vehicles are great value, except for the engine. Am waiting for the 2024 model or Tank 400 if it drops in Oz. Depends on if they upgrade the engine though. Just isnt enough power for the size of it. Honestly I am thinking about just getting a Subaru Outback instead or maybe a Ford Everest if I can justify the cost for the base model lol.
After this I'm going to see if you did another review after you fitted the throttle controller. I took one of these for a test drive and when I took it back I complained about the amount of lag and lack of power, the salesman said straight up, everyone fits a TC because it's only a single turbo 2L.
@27Dionysis mate no not at all. I went back and fwd with gwm over a period of time and ultimately moved the vehicle on. It was good and I loved the car but the ks I travel in it, I need cruise to work properly, and it doesn't.....apparently a fault re design.
I ve got the X, and yes the cruise control is not the best unless you use the car on sport mode. My question is, where everyone takes their cars that you need all this modifications , bigger wheels, lifts etc....? You probably do 80% or more driving on the freeway, what s the point of all this money on top of it? didn t we buy this ute to save money? lol
Not a box problem. It’s actually not the one used in the ford as that’s a 6 speed. Probably the same as the one in the srt Jeep that I had or the x5. It’s a brilliant box. It’s highlighting the gutless 2L motor 😢
Wow not much positive talk,, I have the 22 X model some minor complaints but I I'm extremely happy with my purchase, as I'm coming from an old 07 Ford ranger and not a $150k BMW,,, had a top line BMW performance sedan and my daughters $1000 corolla was so much more reliable,
At first I thought you were in another country driving a left-hand-drive version, until I saw the 7-Eleven & Woolies shops in the background. The images are reversed !! Why ?
Hi i just been given a GWM for my work ute i have gone fron a Nissan D40 that has almost 600,000 i do a avg of 5000 t0 6000 klm a month but im been telling every one that the GWM Cruise Control system is shit your right it just can't maintain the set speed up a hill it just wonts to stay in 8th gear and doesn't know to gear down and if it does gear down will not hold it long enough to reach the set speed so let me know how you get on with the dealer because at the moment i think it a dirty little secret that others know about but are just putting up with its not good enough for a over $40,000 ute .so thanks for your post i was thinking it was just me !!
The cruise control is junk, I also have a xsr. I have heard there is an update but haven't had the 5,000km service yet which is when I'm going to ask for the update.
I think your 12k for extras you have bot really thought of all the extra's you are getting and the cost of each. There is no way you could get everything extra on the xsr for 4k. Havung said all this i would have got the cheapest cannon if i had my time back as its less of a risk buying an unproven car if it's cheaper to begin with.
Same as Jap Crap? LOL. I have a Cannon and love it, so do 2 of my friends, The ute has a German gearbox, bosch electronics, borg Warner transfer case, IHI Japanese turbo, Cooper tyres. Yeh, cheap Chinese crap, NOT!
Very much doubt you owned a cannon, your description screams anti China troll. 2nd hand they are not much cheaper than new, most owners seem to love them with few issues at all which are minor
compared to a sangyong musso , it feels a step up in every metric to the gwm canon
Except looks.
I bought the X in 2022 (it had all the improvements by then), $45k, added Fulcrum 2" Lift (excellent, $3k), 32" Maxxis Razor Tyres with 18x9 +20 rims (looks tough, $3k), roller cover ($1.3k), GME UHF, ($450) Interior light ($30), Drivers Grab handle ($120), and I just use Sports mode for cruise including when towing my 2T camper, no issues maintaining 115kmh. For lane keep, just enable lane centring, it steers for you and eliminated the jerking, had that on for 14 months now and never think about it its such an improvement.
Hey mate, Where did you get the interior lighting and driver grab bar from?
Cheers mat3, yeah the problem with the xsr is that it doesn't have sports mode otherwise that would have been brilliant 🤕
@@AussieDadz So are you saying the Cannon X is a better car than the XSR?
@peterscrenci3252 hey mate. I've driven both extensively. Both great cars but both have flaws. I guess all cars do, however for me, I couldn't get past a couple issues that impacted me and what I wanted and needed from my car. I pick up my next gen raptor next week and will no doubt find issues also but it seems to suit my needs better mate. In short, if the xsr, had reliable cruise control (up and down hill) and also didn't have the tech issues that it did, I would never have parted with it. I can't help but think, gwm are only a couple more utes away from nailing the perfect Aussie ute at old school prices, which will really cause issues for the bigger brands. Cheers mate
@@AussieDadz thanks for the feedback, mate. I've watched quite a few reviews & finding there are a lot of things GWM, as minor as it is DAB radio is another one. I'm heading towards the Isuzu D-Max but also thinking of the MUX instead. I'm not a tradie just love the dual cabs, but MUX is appealing to me given a few extras compared to the D-Max like more lumbar seats & 20" wheels. Cheers mate keep up the good work, enjoyed your video.
Nice to see your perspective of what the XSR is like in the real world! A stack of car for the money! Keep up the good content.
I have a Tank 300 which is the same platform as these Cannons, it's a great car but yeah the cruise control is really annoying, mostly when it comes to cornering. If there's even a slight corner the car can slow down by 10-15kms which is really dangerous, especially on a highway with people behind you. I understand if it's a sharp corner but even a slight bend in the road it reduces the speed even though it would be more than capable of taking the corner at the set speed.
Thanks for the review of all the issues ..one thing that really put me off of purchasing one is that WHY they're not included a lane departing warning on top spec??? Why GWM
Apparently putting the driving mode in power can help cruise control to hold the gears longer and be more aggressive on the downshift up hills
100% CORRECT
I test drove one a few weeks ago. It drove quite well.
One thing I couldn't get past was the 360 camera comes on every time you slow to 15kmph. The button would turn it off, but every time you sped up slowed again, it would come back on.
It locks you out of using the screen when the camera is on, too.
Couldn't even turn the radio down.
Was a deal breaker for me
In the camera setting s you can turn that off
Imagine if the dealership knew that, they told me you can't turn it off because it's a safety feature 😂
@@sm-r8997 yeah in my experience they don't know much about anything not already on on a vehicle on arrival, it also took a bit more digging to find because it's not in settings you have to have the camera on to look at camera settings. What did you end up getting instead?
@jacobparker6399 Narrowed it down to a wildtrak x or dmax lsu+ if I want to save some money.
Going to do a final drive tomorrow & decide
The sales don't really know about this ute, you can turn it off for sure.
With the lane keep assist... can you change the settings to less aggressive and would work abit better?
Yes you can but many people never look into this in their settings, I hardly notice my lka is even there .
the ZF gearbox has the exact same issue with my V6 amarok. I am very certain that fuel consumption wouldn't be sacrificed if it stayed in lower gear for 300rpm longer. I had the another car with VW's own gearbox and a Merc with older 7spd automatic, neither behave like this
Yeah I had the fg xr8 when it first came out years ago with the zf, and it was a lazy bloody gearbox back then
I was looking at the xsr for a daily/work Ute for months now and I feel the Vanta is a better fit for me with the option of constant 4x4 for added safety and sports mode for a little more grunt I think your video just sealed it for me I’ll be definitely not be looking at the xsr as a purchase.
Mate food choice. If I had my time again, I would 100% grab the vanta.
What about the front diff lock, how much would that be to put on a vanta or even an X-model. It is the off-road gear where the extra money goes and I have not found anywhere where i can install those crucial off-road hardware for around 10k or less
Of course the front difflock is the exception......Im not certain the benefits of the front diff lock outweigh the other issues for the extended price, but as I always say, this is just my opinion, and I certainly encourage you to buy one if it's the right fit for you. Overall the car is a winner for its price, when compared to the competition, however in reflection, I would have grabbed the vanta- just my opinion. I appreciate the feedback.
@@AussieDadz Thanks for the quick reply, appreciate it. I was kinda hoping you would say it is possible and change my mind. 😅
My biggest disappointment is that it doesn't have AWD, If I could install everything that the XSR has for under 12k, I would get the Vanta or the X-model.
@user-fi5iq5ws5i
Check out savage teck online and youll def be surprised at how much you can retrofit and save yourself. The vanta is AWD. Exclude the front diff, and you've really only got a few other cosmetic mods....the tank mode is negligible, same as the crawl mode, which can be achieved almost aswell through the throttle controller at 234 bucks fitted. Honestly though bud if front diff is a sticking point for you then def the xsr is a solid buy, but if it's not, I'd crack on with the vanta. I costed up the mods retrofitted for much less than 12k. Good luck with it all mate
I just heard today that lane departure is inside the plastic bumper and can sense through the plastic but it won’t work through the steel bar.
I do love the sunroof though
what a time to be alive, when I was a kid my mum had awesome biceps from driving around a long bed late 80s Bravo Mazda ute with no power steering and honestly no power; 60kw tops.
120w is plenty for a ute that cheap that comes with AC and a bed of any kind.
its a bugger these dont have sports mode like the x. that solves the cruise control problem
The only issue I agree with from my own experience is the lane keep assist. Just wish you could let it stay off permanently.
IMO the vehicles are great value, except for the engine. Am waiting for the 2024 model or Tank 400 if it drops in Oz. Depends on if they upgrade the engine though. Just isnt enough power for the size of it. Honestly I am thinking about just getting a Subaru Outback instead or maybe a Ford Everest if I can justify the cost for the base model lol.
It has more power at the wheels than a Navara and Triton - let that sink in for a second.
@@orangejuicepony6881 still underpowered for its weight though.
I've been complaining about this, and gwm said it's a characteristic of the cannons apparently
After this I'm going to see if you did another review after you fitted the throttle controller. I took one of these for a test drive and when I took it back I complained about the amount of lag and lack of power, the salesman said straight up, everyone fits a TC because it's only a single turbo 2L.
Good vid mate. It's fun having a bit of a rant. I do that sometimes but I still love my Cannon haha
All valid points for sure
Cheers 🍻
Apparently in sports mode the cruise works better
Awesome mate, once I've the throttle controller in tomorrow, I'll make sure it's in sports mode......
No sprees mode in the XSR
@@AussieDadz hi mate. How did you go after the throttle controller? Is the adaptive improved at all?
@27Dionysis mate no not at all. I went back and fwd with gwm over a period of time and ultimately moved the vehicle on. It was good and I loved the car but the ks I travel in it, I need cruise to work properly, and it doesn't.....apparently a fault re design.
FG had a 6-Speed ZF not the 8HP70 that everyone one wants including Landcruiser owners for auto swap they are that good.
I ve got the X, and yes the cruise control is not the best unless you use the car on sport mode. My question is, where everyone takes their cars that you need all this modifications , bigger wheels, lifts etc....? You probably do 80% or more driving on the freeway, what s the point of all this money on top of it? didn t we buy this ute to save money? lol
Not a box problem.
It’s actually not the one used in the ford as that’s a 6 speed.
Probably the same as the one in the srt Jeep that I had or the x5.
It’s a brilliant box.
It’s highlighting the gutless 2L motor 😢
Maybe the 360 degree camera ? has replaced it instead ..
Wow not much positive talk,, I have the 22 X model some minor complaints but I I'm extremely happy with my purchase, as I'm coming from an old 07 Ford ranger and not a $150k BMW,,, had a top line BMW performance sedan and my daughters $1000 corolla was so much more reliable,
Mate, im really stoked that you have no issues with the vehicle that are worth mentioning. That's wonderful for you. All the best Mark.
Regards
You know you can get a tune on it that raises the power up to 150KW and 480 to 500NM to torque
Can you not keep it in sports mode?
Xsr doesn't have sport mode bizarrely 🤦♂️
Was wondering if the throttle controller made any difference. Great video Btw.
If thats the worst still seems like a good deal of a car
I have two of those is easy solution of the cruise control problem just turn it in SPORT!!!
At first I thought you were in another country driving a left-hand-drive version, until I saw the 7-Eleven & Woolies shops in the background. The images are reversed !! Why ?
Yes Sports mode works fine thanks should not have to do this
Hi i just been given a GWM for my work ute i have gone fron a Nissan D40 that has almost 600,000 i do a avg of 5000 t0 6000 klm a month but im been telling every one that the GWM Cruise Control system is shit your right it just can't maintain the set speed up a hill it just wonts to stay in 8th gear and doesn't know to gear down and if it does gear down will not hold it long enough to reach the set speed so let me know how you get on with the dealer because at the moment i think it a dirty little secret that others know about but are just putting up with its not good enough for a over $40,000 ute .so thanks for your post i was thinking it was just me !!
we just manually drop it to 7th gear, on an incline & she quickly responds in getting back to 110km/h on CC…it’s not ideal but it’s not that bad ://
Put it on Sports mode, holds speed no problem
Xsr doesn't have sports mode sadly
The cruise control is junk, I also have a xsr. I have heard there is an update but haven't had the 5,000km service yet which is when I'm going to ask for the update.
I can hear that you are an Aussie but are you living overseas? Left- hand drive...???? Confused...
Bmw top end,made me laugh.
I think your 12k for extras you have bot really thought of all the extra's you are getting and the cost of each. There is no way you could get everything extra on the xsr for 4k. Havung said all this i would have got the cheapest cannon if i had my time back as its less of a risk buying an unproven car if it's cheaper to begin with.
cheap chinese trash i sold mine and lost a fortune on it, i was tired of all the little problems !!!
I have not had a single issue, fantastic car, highly modified too and not a drama - absolute bargain
@@orangejuicepony6881same here, got the VANTA and loving it
Did you really have one .
Same as Jap Crap? LOL.
I have a Cannon and love it, so do 2 of my friends,
The ute has a German gearbox, bosch electronics, borg Warner transfer case, IHI Japanese turbo, Cooper tyres.
Yeh, cheap Chinese crap, NOT!
Very much doubt you owned a cannon, your description screams anti China troll. 2nd hand they are not much cheaper than new, most owners seem to love them with few issues at all which are minor