Actor Quits Vegan Diet 'Cuz Corporations'?!
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- Hannah Einbinder of the HBO series Hacks went on Stephen Colbert and explained that she was no longer vegan but gives a new reason I haven't heard before.
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Audience cheering at "I'm no longer vegan" says all you need to know about the majority of the human population
It was a bit delayed. You know these shows, they make people cheer on queue.... It's about representation and how they think people at home will take it. Catering for dollars.
Humans no good.
There's a positive way of looking at it. Many of them are seeking reassurance because they feell guilty about their dirty habits.
Simply because you once were (or labeled yourself) a vegan does not mean you have the required intellect to understand the implications of climate change, your health, 'corporations', your impact on fresh water supplies, the horrific tragedy of animal suffering, et al.
Former or current vegans are not omniscient people; many (perhaps most) vegans are on the average bell curve of intelligence so should not be cheered for accepting misinformation, finding convenient excuses to return to eating animals/animal products, or having indefensible, partially true, or just plain thoughtless, philosophical worldviews.
2003 study title: Bioavailability of iron, zinc, and other trace minerals from vegetarian diets. This is the reason Dr. Leila Denmark who treated over 250,000 people with a faultless track record said the Heme Iron in lean meat is healthful.
So by her logic, if you pay for trafficked young girls, it's not your fault for paying for it, it's the cartels who are doing the trafficking and you should feel free to pay for all the trafficked young girls you want without feeling guilty
I've noticed that many people simply won't acknowledge any level of collective responsibility, especially when it comes to the markets they choose to participate in. So, although that's an extreme example (and conflicts with law in a lot of places), I wouldn't be surprised if there were people who did see it that way. And certainly, before the public got clearer on the concepts of what is a child and what is child abuse, there used to be a lot of men who actually bragged about having sex with children. Some of them are still famous rock stars.
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So you have no problem that crops are fertilized with cow blood because you still buy vegetables?
@@somnia3423 And the best way to stop crops from being grown this way and instead be grown veganically, would be to go vegan. They only use blood so much because of all the excess blood from your slaughterhouses.
Giving corporations money while complaining they're doing what you pay them for is ridiculous.
I understand what you were saying, but if you watch environmentalist videos, it's not that they want what businesses produce but that they don't really have a choice and want it to change. Such as not wanting to use fossil fuels or plastic but it's hard to really live or do anything when we are surrounded by most things being powered by fossil fuels.
Hannah was just talking about the environment. Tho you should do individual things to help the environment too.
I saw a comment on a video criticizing Temu say that he/she knows Temu is bad but had no choice but to shop at Temu cause he/she was poor.
I'm saying do both individual responsibility and get political too.
Cause it's hard to boycott if political subsidies just bail out animal agriculture.
Watch Second Thought.
System can matter cause if you lived in the past that was so fueled by exploiting animals like whale oil for lamps and horses for transportation then it's harder to be vegan individually.
There's some people who said they would go vegan if vegan meat and food was cheaper.
I saw comments on lab meat videos said they would quit exploiting animals and the environment if lab meat was available.
Earthling Ed asked for political subsidies for vegan foods, plant foods, and for farmers to transition from animal ag to plants.
If vegans really wanted to spread veganism then help every area.
I think that's part of why some people say vegans or activists force their way. They kind of saying "if you want me to change then help me too". Which isn't bad.
That said, like Mic said, I think veganism is a bit of a different case than the environment. Vegan Gary Francione said veganism has to leans towards the individuals cause the government can't just force it cause many are addicted to the taste of animal products.
@@user-gu9yq5sj7cAnimal agriculture in inextricably linked to environmental degradation.
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c I understand but my point stands. Sure, I have no choice over what fuel the bus I ride to work uses. However, when it comes to my food choices, it's utterly ridiculous to CHOOSE to pay for those things and then complain. When you have the choice then the ball is in your court and you're responsible for what you're CHOOSING to pay for.
It's like when people got mad at Hershey's over their slave practices in making their chocolate. (I'm pretty sure that's what it was.) People boycotted the heck out of Hershey's and let them know exactly why they were boycotting it. What she is doing is knowing what Hershey's is doing, paying for it anyway, and then saying "Man, I wish they wouldn't use slave labor to make this chocolate. The government should really do something about that."
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c This is a great example as why as seasoned vegans we could do more by providing practical knowledge and economic support to vulnerable and ignorant people, like investing in crafting & repair skills and showing others how to eat vegan cheaply.
@@user-gu9yq5sj7c You create a paradoxal situation "vegan food needs to be cheaper"...However, vegan food won't get cheaper until it's more mass produced (i.e more people eating vegan... i.e go vegan) and/or pressure is placed on governments (by people in environmental groups and political justice parties -formed by the people/i.e passionate activists) to subsidise vegan alternatives to meat.
Your comment here just enforces that we need the individuals as a group pushing from the ground up.
“I’m going to quit being a decent and morally consistent person because corporations.”
And that gets applause!
Since when did actors ever make sense?
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Vegan for the animals ❤
It would make more sense if she believed that the magical corporations would fix everything. So, you are going to line the pockets of the people who are part of the problem when you don't have to? It's basically an admission of the fact that she was resisting those corporations and now she isn't and somehow that's the inspiring thing that will get people to rally to change those corporations.
"corporations tho"
Did it ever cross her mind that she could still be vegan while she "waits" for corporations to do something (which they won't), or by her doing something, anything, to try to actually influence corporations? Clearly not
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Another temporarily plant-based celebrity (that I've never heard of anyway)
That's what kills me. She offers this nonsense as if it's the reason she's no longer vegan. Mic was too kind to this unprincipled poseur.
Agreed, but it's like some nonvegans said they didn't think their individual action would make a difference. That's the problem. BitesizeVegan said on a Hench Herbivore video that meat had increased but she was still going to affect change. Good attitude.
So how does she hold corporations responsible.
53 corporations but billions of animals not worth considering
Individual consumer boycott isn't going to do anything. As Vegansism has increased over the years, meat production and pollution has only sky rocketed. What she probably wants and what is realistically the only thing that can be done is having governments force these corporations to stop polluting and harming animals. Problem is the governments that could put a stop to these things have the same interests as the corporations and are sometimes just directly paid of by them.
@@stephenm707i always like to poke the cling film on meat packages or take them out of the refrigerated area.
she tags them on Twitter and says mean things.
@@globalist1990ah, so you like to increase demand for meat?
@@globalist1990 I don't go anywhere near the dead animal remains section. It disgusts me.
not surprised that a stupid take from an uneducated actor is being celebrated on stephen colbert. it's very sad people care what these individuals think.
👋 Exactly! Well said dear, I totally agree! 👍👍
She's following him right down the path of completely abandoning one's values.
Colbert literally became the character he created as a joke
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it's so STUPID, and she seems so pleased with herself.
She's a nepo baby, so what do you expect?
To me this is like someone saying they went back to doing drugs because it's the drug dealers responsibility to not sell drugs.......if you keep giving them money they aren't going to stop
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Or abusing children because of the Epstein traffic rings
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Spot on!
If you are against the exploitation and killing of the innocent then you must live as a vegan or live as a hypocrite.
Excellent reasoning.
Or… accept evolution by natural selection and respect the biological fact that we are omnivorous predators, like all predatory mammals, with eyes facing forward and fangs, and an appetite for animal fat and meat. To deny that is hypocrisy, self delusion.
Demand & Supply
Isn't boycotting Corporations' products exactly the one and only way we have to change Corporations?
She thinks of fighting Corporations by buying their products...
That makes no sense at all, but she still receives applauses. Absolutely disgusting.
Corporations just represent mass consumer choices.
No they don't, the point of advertising is to make you want to buy something you didn't know you "needed."
@@stephenm707 sure but that’s still ultimately a consumer choice.
@@danh5637 They can't "just represent" choices that they persuade consumers to make.
@@basbleupeaunoire they literally can and do. Just because something is advertised to you, it’s still ultimately a voluntary choice a person makes. And enough people make that choice the corporation continues to fulfil it. It’s not that hard to understand.
@@danh5637 You know that companies spend millions and millions on marketing research and advertising. That means they try to persuade the public to choose something. That is the opposite of "just represent(ing) mass consumer choices." They're not neutral observers of consumption habits; they help *create* consumption habits in the first place.
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I'm vegan for my health.
Why would i stop that for corporations?
I desire to be healthy and able to play with grandkids and be a contributing member of society (instead having others to have to take care of me)
I'm vegan for the welfare of animals.
Why would I stop that because of corporations?
I'm vegan for the environment of the earth.
Again....why would i stop that?
No matter what corporations do, i still want to do what i can to take care of myself, animals, and the environment.
It appears eating meat really damages people's brains. They espouse such incoherent ideas.
We need to remember that actors are use to having lines written for them. When they speak without them, sometimes this is the irrational thoughts that come forth.
Her poor mom, she must be still doing laundry for her because it's just too much responsibility to do on your own.
“I’m not discouraging persons from being vegan but…” But I myself can’t really be bothered. I AM important you know.
Not once did she mention the animals😔😔😔💔💔💔 be kind to animals🥺🥺🥺🐔🐷🐮🫂🫂🫂♥️♥️♥️🌱🌱🌱
Of course not bec that is the thing that proves she is a hippocrit
Watched Forks over knives, 7 years ago.
I still eat only plants.
How about 'shrooms?
Don't discriminate!
Well, you eat plants and a lot of supplements, vegans don’t like to mention it.
@@longevitycoach1573 vegans don't have a monopoly on supplements.
Meat eaters are just as deficient in vitamins like B12 even though we're told this is an issue with veganism.
Also, look at how many antibiotics and supplements are given to animals or are fortified in milk or other foods.
Supplements aren't bad, they are just one way of balancing a diet that has become insufficient in certain ways.
Much of that is a direct result of the ENTIRE FOOD SYSTEM.
You can't go blaming vegans for trying to do things better and making up for the fact that we aren't always able to get what we need from the system.
For example, B12 actually come from soil bacteria, and if we were spending more time on the land and closer to the dirt, we wouldn't have this issue.
Same goes for vitamin D.
It's not exclusively vegans that have become deficient.
Much more a byproduct of modernity and lack of time outside in the sun.
Unless a supplement is shown to be toxic, there's absolutely nothing wrong with taking a few
@@longevitycoach1573I just had my bloodwork done. I live in a northern climate, so I have to take vitamin D... as most people do, and I take vitamin B12. No other supplements. No medication. Just plants.. and Fungi!
Not sure why you would think a vegan needs to take tons of vitamins, when the plants have them all.
@@MattAngiono ha ha ha. My bad! God I love Fungi!
Can I buy a sign from Amazon, that says "Corporations are EVIL" and have it delivered here in 4 hours?
Lol!😂 witty, and brilliant! Thanks for the giggle❤
“I just got to clarify that.” applause 👏
I hate her facial expression, when she says it so much. Like it’s a punchline.
Also. Waiting for corporations to do what exactly? Stop delivering meat dairy and eggs to supermarkets?
Let veganism be a government mandate?
These people just want everything to stay the same without doing anything.
Sorry you can’t have steak without destroying the planet and moral atrocities. Corporations can’t fix that aside from stopping to offer the service. And you stop participating in that service all on your own already.
The cheering was ridiculous.
That's Americans for you. Half of them vote (convicted felon, rapist) Trump too.
The thing about corporations is that if you don't give them money, they stop doing whatever it is they do.
Cowspiracy. And then later, Seaspiracy. Those are the movies that moved me first to vegetarian, and a year later, vegan. I’ve been vegan for two years now. Your videos have given me a lot of the information that helped me to explain to my family that I can still be healthy even though I stopped eating foods derived from animals. Thank you!!!
Amazing, I went vegan 9 years ago because of Cowspiracy !!! It has to be about the ethics for long term change, these "ex-vegans" are all me, me, me....
Hey Mike, I'm someone who changed their diet after watching a documentary. Specifically Earthlings. I had been exposing myself to a lot of factory farm footage to wake myself up to the truth. Earthlings was the final nail in the coffin. I couldn't eat animals after that. I showed a couple friends the documentary and although they were horrified they went right back to eating meat
People don’t care if it’s too inconvenient for them
That was so hard to watch. Earthlings blew my mind how dark humans are and just do not care! It’s so sad and I cannot wait to move deep into nature and turn my back on these humans. I want to work on my own vegan projects outside of documentaries.
@rainbowtravelingyogi people just don't care
@@rainbowtravelingyogi Sometimes people changing takes time. Not every vegan instantly stopped consuming animals and their secretions. Cheap Lazy Vegan said it may be more sustainable for some people cause they can be overwhelmed like on what to eat and socially. Like how some ex vegans quit "for health", it may have been better if they took the time to learn.
@@sandray7609 SOME humans care, but many are afraid to leave the habits
and comfort of being the majority called "normal". I did not give a sh*t and
became vegan over 25 years ago. Best thing I have ever done. Compassion rules.
Earthling Ed also did a thoughtful response to this on his TH-cam channel.
tell me you don't want to take personal responsibility without telling you don't want to take personal responsibility
it's the vanity that's so cringe
@FruityHachi
I don't want to take personal responsibility... I still went Vegan.
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@@PercivalBlakeney How? Your comment doesn't make sense cause going vegan is taking responsibility. Especially when it's not easy for a lot of people.
If she went plant-based for health, then stopping for the environment is a special type of stupid.
"Be the change you wish to see in the world" are apparently not words she chooses to live by.
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No accountability from these ex vegans, choose compassion and go vegan
Was Hannah ever a vegan? Cause she was talking about just the environment. Environmentalists criticize every industry, including animal agriculture too. I'm glad they do but that doesn't make they ethical vegans.
I refuse to worship these false idols, which is what entertainment "celebrities" are. They have nothing special about them except one skill. Cheers.
Oh yeah an actress on a late night talk show is gonna lead the youth in rebelling against corporate America. That's rich!
What about Joaquin Phoenix who has been a ethical vegan since age three? Maybe not Hannah, but there are actors who are passionate about their ethnics or activism.
If she actually believes that corporations are the root of the problem, then she literally is saying she's choosing to fund them so they can cause even more of the problem
I am 100% missing her "argument" that she's "helping" more by not being vegan?
Basically it seems she either hasn't thought it thru at all, or, like so many other plant based dieters (people who claim they are vegan but are only on a PB diet & conveniently always forget about the animals), she's attacking the "processed" vegan meat and cheez companies thinking they are to blame
Uneducated and completely faulty "logic" (no logic at all)
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I wached Food Inc. when it first came out, and it did cause a chain reaction that eventually led me to veganism. I immediately went out and bought books and watched other documentaries on our food industry. It had an impact that has lasted 15 years so far. Documentaries, like all information can affect people's perception. It just takes commitment. I know in my heart I am vegan for life.
Excellent!!!
The librarian at my school showed my class clips of Food Inc. when I was 12. (He actually got in trouble for it but I'm so grateful that it happened lol) That was the seed for me too! Unfortunately I pushed it out of my mind because I wasn't living with a supportive family, but when I was 18 I finally became vegetarian, then eventually vegan after watching many more documentaries 😊
I watched Food Inc and started eating more grass fed beef.
Crazy that these people are allowed to speak on tv or wherever this interview was
How do you know someone is a former vegan? They'll tell you. Yup. Personal responsibility is becoming an endangered species. We are all individuals in collectives that contribute to either the violence or peace on this planet. I choose to be in the latter.
Virtue signal much?
@@RC-qf3mp Yawn. Resort to already over-used pejorative neologisms much?
@@debbiewall2160 you are congratulating yourself on being vegan and insulting people who ‘convert’ away from your religion. What about the countless people who have their health problems cured by EATING MEAT and going off their nutrient deprived ultra processed high carb/high sugar vegan ‘diets’? What about them?
@@RC-qf3mp D'oh! I keep thinking when I get a notification that there is some intelligent, meaningful dialogue to be had. I gotta stop doing that. My bad, as the "cool kids" say.
@@debbiewall2160 perhaps look into Darwin’s theory of evolution by natural selection. People are omnivores. Two eyes facing forward - predators. We are at the top of the food chain. Our brains need animal fat - esp fatty fish. Vegans don’t get enough and so their intelligence drops and tend to have a number of health problems. It’s a supremely unnatural way to eat and live. It’s a form of a nihilism - a kind of religion. You are clearly devout.
If you think the answer to climate breakdown is a full systemic change, you're right. But if you won't change your habits and diet because "individual actions don't matter" what you're basically saying is, "I want others to change but I will not be held accountable for the consequences of my own actions". Acting like institutional change is possible without individual accountability is some serious bullshit.
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Ever hear of taking personal responsibility? Stop complaining and take some of that responsibility you want others to take. Go vegan. It's easy.
it's so coward for her to run away from the individual accountability and blaming on the corporations everything becomes so easy and you feel like you don't end up being a bad guy either because you think it's all corporation's fault, as if they don't run on your money
Who advertises for talk shows these days? Pharma firms? Fast food companies? Lots of corporate sponsors ready to smash that applause button.
We should all ‘be the change we wish to see in the world’… we need to change our actions before we expect anyone else to change!
I’m an ethical person who just happens to be vegan.
1. I bought a bike and no longer drive.
2. I rarely contribute to business that do not operate ethically.
3. I don’t travel any more. I use to travel out the country.
4. I’m writing more fun vegan stories to bring being vegan to the forefront.
5. I don’t feed my ego. I looked hard at myself and made positive change because I wanted to show people, it’s not hard unless you make it hard.
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Huh? You don’t feed your ego? You just did in writing this self congratulatory screed.
@@RC-qf3mp not gloating. Just showing if I can do it literally any one on the planet. Including Donald trump. It’s not impossible to do good in the world.
@@RC-qf3mpalso what I listed was simple and easy steps anyone can make. Didnt take anything away from my life. It’s fun to bike and see nature. All benefits.
@@SurTrailDoesAll the best thing you can do for the environment is to not have children. Esp American children, as they tend to be the worst polluters. But many people agree with the goal of improving the environment and individual health and see one way of doing that to be eat a diet rich in sustainably sourced animal fat and protein.
Weird Question, Is it safe to consume so much Manganese on a vegan diet?
If we ate mostly the healthiest foods we could easily intake well over the upper limit.
Is this a concern?
Great video as always!
Corporations are not an excuse to abandon a healthy and animal friendly lifestyle, even if they are worse than us on a larger scale.
Besides, we can multitask: vote with our dollars, protest corporations and eat vegan for the health of us, the animals and the planet.
What are you considering the healthiest foods that are high in manganese? If by upper limit you mean the RDA, going over the RDA by some amount would not be a problem. Eating many times the RDA would be a problem, but I am not sure how people would do that generally.
She watched health-related documentary and went plant-based. Suddenly her health doesn’t matter and the reason is “as consumers we don’t have as big impact on the environment as corporations do”. So her health doesn’t mayter anymore? #logic
Lets all not be part of the problem, but part of the solution.
It seems as if she ate plant-based for the environment. She was never a vegan.
Hannah who?
She craves attention!
The Violence is not because of the bad people, it is because of the silence of the good people. ~Pramoda Chitrabhanu~
Saying "vegans have no food" is a clear indicator that a person has very limited culinary knowledge and experience.
Stop giving these corporations your money, then they'll stop!
“Corporations are really evil, so I shouldn’t have to make any effort or practice empathy.” How does that even make sense, let alone deserve applause?
Wait... so we can't be vegan and not support corporations at the same time? We can only choose one?
My bf and I watched Cowspiracy and then What the Health in the same day and have been vegan since that day (5ys) (I found many other sources as well after watching) So to me, it makes absolutely no sense to see What the Health but then go back to supporting those industries.
Isn't capitalism great?! You get to blame it for all your ethical failings.
People had ethical failings before capitalism.
I watched The end of meat documentary 5 years ago and had no idea it would lead to me becoming a vegan. When I saw the suffering of the animals in the documentary I decided to become a vegetarian. I just couldn’t eat meat anymore. This was in November 2019. At that time I had no idea how cows are suffering in dairy industry and I also believed we needed some animal protein. By January 2020 i knew more and became a vegan. I know for fact I am a vegan for life. The only regret I have is not getting informed much earlier in my life. My husband became a vegan also based on watching a documentary (not the same one as me) and decided to go vegetarian. He was not sure if he could go vegan and same as me he now has been a vegan for 5 yrs. We both constantly say it was the best decision of our lives.
10:00 a decade ago the problem was that everyone was trying to do tiny little things on their own to help & nothing was getting done.
There was a brief moment we realized we have to solve this problem together.
Now, folks are just using it as an excuse to shirk the work.
The cycle will continue, but there is no moral arc to the universe
Thanks, Mic 😃 awesome content!
I think the win here is that veganism to being discussed. People are experimenting with veganism, making it a normal thing to try.
how can one expect others to care when they're literally paying them to treat the victim as less than their taste preferences anyway?
do people really think they come accross as serious people with that kind of reasoning?
Vote with your dollars. If the corporations don't make profit then they stop selling those products or go bankrupt. She proves she isn't very bright
Congrats on 400k subs!!!
Great Video!
Yup that's right, let's just trust the corporations to change and do what's right without any pressure from consumers. It's late where I am but looking forward to watching this in the morning, I'm sure Mic will respond perfectly to all those 'individual actions don't matter, only corporations do' people.
Aww, just 4 hours behind Ed Winters.
So what exactly is she doing to hold corporations responsible? I don’t see her out there in the streets protesting against them. In other words, she does nothing, and the only thing she did that was actually causing a minimum impact, she no longer does.
How do you know she hasn't protested against them in the streets? Not buying hamburgers isn't going to have any effect on these corporations when they're only increasing their production despite veganism and plant based diets becoming more popular.
@@stephenm707 we are only 1% of the population in the US, you can’t arrive to that conclusion. On the other hand Germany is indeed closing down pig slaughterhouses, and their vegan population has been growing. Given the chance, it works, but each of us has to do their part.
She is "fighting" Corporations that hurt and kill animals by buying their products. Yes, she is a deluded hypocrite.
❤❤❤ I agree. Thank you
You’re spot on about the complicity of purchasing/consuming animal products (or whatever problematic products)
If you continue to give them money for these products they will have no incentive to change!
And the applause for her statement that she is no longer vegan…wtf?!
There’s a difference to the environment and personal health from CAFO meat and sustainably sourced local farms meat. There are also big corporations making vegan food that is bad for your health and the planet.
If a corporation was on the side producing CP with their profita, we'd collectively despise every non-ignorant customer that business had.
There's a phrase popularised by the former US president Harry S. Truman that is valid in this situation: "The buck stops here." We are all personally responsible for our own actions and trying to shift the responsibility to someone else is lazy, selfish and ignorant.
Another phrase that fits is by Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis: "One person CAN make a difference and everyone should try." Rosa Parks didn't achieve equal rights on her own, she was just a pivotal actor in the struggle. The corporations of the day would've probably preferred that she sat at the back of the bus and Hanna seems to also think she should've done that judging by her stance.
It’s all excuses
I legit do not understand why people think being vegan is so complicated, 8 years and im not going back.
I've not watched a documentary Other than cowspiraracy (i was already vegan for several years) with my kid and there was one really disturbing actual image which we were not ready for and we were disturbed (even though I grew up with people who exploited and bred animals and all that is connected to that heinous activity) we decided to not view them ever again.
I do not need see photos or movies of the disgust to keep being a vegan. I believe I was born Vegan but being a child had to do what I was told and then believed the lies I was told in regard to why animals are treated as they are. So, when someone finally asked me why I didn't think I had an option to not exploit animals, It was like a release from a dungeon - It was very freeing. Then after that, being vegetarian for about 15 years, few vegans ever asked me why I didn't go further and if they did, and I gave them some insufficient answer, they never asked me about that answer, or so much as said anything in refutation. So much for pushy vegans. I had to realize on my own. It was horrible to realize I could have been, and should have been much sooner.
The hard parts after that have been trying to have to be more informed than anyone else, and put up with some of what, honestly, feels to me to be the absolute Dumbest comments and questions, that are not questions, but are really trying to be gotcha statements. ...like some commenter on Earthling Ed's video on this same subject, who wrote:
"what about the mass creation of sentient beings? dont you think the chance animals get to have life because of the symbiosis with humans is great?" And a few other even more baffling in their absence of any sense.
Then this person has the nerve to, write as a response, to someone saying that the shitposter is insane: "You have no refutation"
This is the hard part of being vegan; dealing with that nonsense, too often. It is why I am becoming a happy misanthrope.
If it's my post you are referring to, I responded to that numbnut several times but my responses didn't show up. Thanks TH-cam !
Dealing with people in the comments is an easy way to lose your mind.
I got in an argument with someone saying being vegan is being "an apologist for fossil fuel companies" and no matter how many quotes from studies I provided, he kept saying that I had no evidence.
Even while he didn't provide a single study.
This people can drive you mad if you're not careful
@@veganfortheanimals6994yeah, this platform has become a steaming pile of 💩
The censorship is unreal
The real issue is framing this as an environmentalist issue first, rather than as a moral issue. This woman was never a vegan to begin with as she didn't believe in the ethics of veganism (an explicitly ethics-based philosophy)
I have always had a distaste for eating animals. I watched “What the Health” and decided I was going vegan. I be been vegan 5 years now, and I’m not going back!
Processed food manufacturers need to hear from consumers that less ADDED sugar, oil and salt is wanted in their food products.
Why is there so much added sugar in everything, even bread. That's just crazy
Email, text, tweet or phone your favorite producer of poison and let them know consumers want less salt, oils and sugars in their products.
Let their customer service department know that all the extra added salt, oil and sugar is not necessary or desired and is causing health issues.
Thank you for patiently & factually addressing her really shallow though process. Loved the slave owner example.
So did she actually switch to taking down corporations?
Is she taking any concrete actions at all?
I don't even know how that's possible.
Plus, it's about one's own ethics and not being complicit.
If you disagree with the way animals are treated but then partake in the process, you're also hurting yourself.
As consumers we have the power, let's stop donating our hard-earned cash to meat, dairy, egg & manufactured foods & drinks devoid of nutrients corporations!!!
While we see the carbon footprint on livestock raising, there is also major footprint on pharmaceuticals and health services needed to cope with the vast diseases that being a non vegan guarantees example daily medications for high blood pressure cholestrol blood thinners, weight reduction, chronic disease treatments (medication and health centres) cancer management of different types, research facilities, surgical facilities etc...
I’m pretty sure corporations will keep doing the wrong thing if it makes them money, as long as it’s not illegal (and even that is more of a guideline than a rule).
I watched your veganlinked interview. I saw that one of your dogs is named Diego. My dog was named Diego. He was a pomeranian beagle mix just passed away at 17 recently he eat vegan dog the last five years of his life
How do you know if someone’s no longer vegan?
Don’t worry they will tell you!
She was never vegan in the first place. She was never for the animals.
Like you said, corporations are just groups of individuals. Each individual can form a part of a collective. We can make choices for ourselves, but we can’t force others (with exceptions, obviously) to make the same choices. However, by choosing a certain pattern of behaviour, we absolutely will influence the collectives we’re apart of; whether it be our families, friend groups, colleagues, church congregation, or neighbourhood. For example, I never thought I would cycle in my city; I thought it too dangerous, and wouldn’t even consider it. Then, my boss started cycling to work. She didn’t tell me to do anything, but her choice had an impact on me, and after considering it for some time, I started cycling too. Seeing that my boss was able to do something that had seemed out of reach to me made me think it was possible, and I found the courage to try. Now, I cycle all the time and don’t think twice about it. Our actions and choices have more impact that we can ever realise. It’s important to consider this in the way we live our lives and the numerous choices we make every single day. What we eat, how we treat others, how we spend our free time, where we shop, how we spend our money, what we throw away, what we do for work and the decisions we make in our work role, what we consume, etc. etc. etc.
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Let's just clarify that being vegan is not a diet but an ethical lifestyle that goes much further. I guess she confused with a plant-based diet, if it was for health reasons.
" I don't know her "
Good for her, it will make her life much better.
And why did she need to clarify on this show? I've never even heard of her either.
This argument will never make sense to me. I have a good friend who uses it as her primary arguement and it's like.... why would they suddenly decide to change if they are making billions of dollars? When individuals stop buying, that's when they will change. They only respond to money, they have no morals
She is exactly why you can't be an environmentalist and not vegan.
If you claim to be the former and are not the latter you are demanding others change but are not prepared to do it yourself.
In a recent episode of Hacks (S3E5), Hannah's character basically says: Average individuals don't make a difference, but some people can. In reference to her Boss, who owns a private jet, big-ass house, and Rolls Royce car.
Colbert actually had a good joke in the cheese clip. Most vegan jokes are the same dry crap with bad delivery, but he made me laugh. I'm impressed.
She has a smooth brain for sure.
I agree with her that the emphasis should be in holding meat corporations accountable rather than holding individual meat eaters accountable, but that has nothing to do with her or any particular individual deciding to quit veganism. If she was going to start eating meat on an individual level and then start a grassroots movement to reduce the corporate influence of meat companies as a politician or something I'd say her impacts were probably lessened by her choice, but clearly her decision to do the latter wouldn't really have anything to do with her decision to do the former...
You can't claim to care about the environment if you eat meat. All the little micro-consumerist bollocks like not using plastic straws or whatever just is a waste of time by comparison. The only thing you can do to reduce your own carbon footprint to any significant difference is to not consume animal products (to some extent not flying, but nobody is begrudging you a holiday once in a while).
Can you talk on the beef tallow skin trend? I am so icked out.
Metaphorically speaking she just put all the eggs in one basket and dropped them.
"When they stop selling slaves I'll stop buying." - Hannah Einbinder, 2024
Deflecting personal responsibility is the SOLE reason evil has endured >300,000 years of human history. duh Doesn't require a philosophy degree to understand.
whatever we buy, they will contnue to produce.
consumption is our last intact civil right. given enough solidarity, it could be very powerful.
And get ready to hear this kind of discourse more and more as lab meat o equivalents becomes more important. People think that avoiding anything industrial is rebeling against the system
👍. The point about might as well give the keys to the burglars is a telling comparison. Also, while benefits to health were mentioned, that's good, there could have been just a mention of greatly reducing cruelty to animals by giving up the dairy and eggs of incarcerated cows and hens, and the flesh of all animals. While today the environmental imperative seems the most pressing of all reasons to be vegan, with - in cold practical and economic terms - effects on health following close behind, let's not forget that a) originally vegetarianism and veganism were primarily about preventing animal suffering since the research on health aspects wasn't much available, and the environmental concerns were not so urgent and also not much researched b) even today for many the primary and overarchingly important reason is to reduce suffering to animals. Well thanks for another good video on a subject of some relevance.
I mean wanting to hold corporations accountable and being vegan are not mutually exclusive. It sounds like it was just inconvenience to her personally and she made up an excuse for quitting it.