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Why Jehovah's Witnesses are wrong about The Trinity: Part 1
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📖 In this 2 Part Chicken Scratch, I'll be covering the Jehovah's Witness view of the Trinity. What their reasoning is, and why it's very....terrible.
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Sheesh; great job. I used to give the Trinity talk as a former Elder. I used to love giving that talk to “debunk” the Trinity doctrine.
That initial definition u gave at the outset is in that talk, except it doesn’t quote the entire definition, only partial. All of the references given in that talk were either from apologist or worst yet, partially quoted.
As I started reading the Bible on my own, cross referencing scriptures from the Old Testament to the New, seeing descriptions used for Jesus, seeing how His disciples baptized in his name, plus getting an accurate definition and gist of what the Trinity really is, I was astonished.
This video drove home many points via scripture. And u’re so right about false religion; JWs own Governing Body say that Jesus is their leader, yet tell its members that He’s not their mediator & the only way they can gain salvation is based upon obeying them & how they are treated as Christ’s brothers.
Have you said no to the God of Jesus?
Although it is of course true that the JW's have nothing to do with the Bibles Christianity, they are however correct about there not being a trinity. The trinity is a false manmade CONcept. Just as the JW's are completely apostate from God so too is anyone who believes in a trinity.
@@bretherenlee1404No, but ur Governing Body has been disrespecting His Son with an unscriptural remembrance of Him, teaching its members that He’s not their Mediator, & that salvation comes from ur obedience and affiliation. Pls don’t go down this rabbit hole w/ me, b/c I will light u up w/ every single literature printed from 07/1879 to current exposing the truth about this religion.
@@bygeorgehemayberite8385 are you here saying no to the trinity and yes to the God of Jesus? Are you here giving a thumbs down to christmas and easter and other things not in the bible?
We know the Watchtowers are wrong about how they conduct the Memorial and their teaching of Jesus just being a Mediator for a few. Does that mean that you will join in and destroy the trinity which also is not in the bible?
@@bretherenlee1404Clearly u haven’t watched the video, & clearly u don’t know what the definition of Trinity really implies. The word Trinity is not found in the Bible, however are their Two Almighty Gods? Are their Two Alpha & Omegas? Are their two “I ams?” Are their Two Mighty Gods? Either the answer is yes or no. If it’s Yes, then that contradicts the entire Bible. If the answer is no, then maybe the nature of God is something u need to further examine.
So often men have put a cap on what God is, can do, etc. Why? B/c men have placed themselves as the mouthpiece of Him vs. just reading the Bible. The Bible interprets itself, it doesn’t need outside spokespeople to say what it means. This video was completely littered with scriptural passages.
I have no idea why u brought up those other items, & I’m assuming u thought u made a point w/ it. How about this; how about u listen to this video, read all the passages presented, read them in full context & draw ur own conclusions.
This was beautifully done! When I first came to Christ one of the moments that blew my mind was seeing how it all really points to him. That realization made my process of trying the spirits a breeze lol. If any group of “believers” are not pointing their followers to Christ, 🚩 🚩 🚩🚩🚩🙏🏽
No it wasn't beautifully done. The trinity is nothing but a lie. Created by Constantine and his pagan ways. There was no trinity in the Old Testament and in Malachi God said I an the LORD and I do not change and yet 2 pages later in the New Testament in Matthew oh look he lied to us and changed. That not how the Bible works and that's not the God I love with all my heart. And that's not the Jesus that I put my faith in. The Bible says to know the Son is to know the Father and you people have no clue as to who and what Jesus is and was before he came to earth as a man. He wasn't God that's for sure. And doesn't Jesus himself say that your to Love your Father with all your heart, soul, strength and might??? Yes it does. Yet you think it's supposed to be Jesus that your supposed love with all your heart, soul, strength and might. Well your wrong. I do honor Jesus because I know who and what he was. You haven't a clue as to who and what he was.
@@ScottRock-mr6qk
_" The trinity is nothing but a lie. "_
Your problem is that you are biblical knowledge bankrupt.
John 1: 1 said *GOD,* nothing about *a* god.
Isaiah 9: 6 said that *HE IS GOD THE FATHER* , nothing about a lesser god.
Isaiah 41 / 43 and 44 says God is *FIRST AND LAST*
Rev 1: 17 and 22: 13 says that *JESUS IS FIRST AND LAST*
And so we can go on for many more solid examples out of the Word of God
But as usual, spiritual blind fools will read the Bible everyday for 5 years while in prison, and when they walk out of that prison, they will still find themselves in a spiritual prison for the rest of their life's.
@@nonconformist4802 And Exodus 6:3 says that YHWH is God Almighty and Yeshua without the vowels is YSH NOT YHWH. So Jesus is not God Almighty. And I don't know where you came up with Jesus is the Father when he says himself that he's the Son. And since it's clear to me that you have no understanding of the Bible. Move along Slow Mo. Your below me. Way below me. I tell you what, if you can answer two questions, I'll talk with you. Get it wrong or reject either of them and we're done. Ready? What was Jesus before he came to earth as a man?? Say God and were done. And 2nd, was Jesus the beginning of the creation by God?????
@nonconformist4802 Your understanding of the Bible is a made up fabrication. Based on church leaders that have taught you nothing but lies. Because that's what they do. You're either a Catholic or You're a Baptist. Guaranteed. Because I used to be married to a catholic woman. And I felt as dirty as one would when he crawled out from under his truck that oil and grease was leaking all over the place. And if you're not either of those you're still a follower of the Catholic churches because all religions today are nothing more than branches off of Catholicism. The Baptists say oh yeah we believe in the trinity too but we don't pray or worship saints so we're gonna do things our way and the Methodist are right behind them and Protestants and Lutherans and Evangelist all of them. All religions are just followers of Catholicism. What day of the week do you attend church on?? Yeah the same day the Catholics changed it to. Sunday. And that's not the Sabbath. Fool.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
what an absolute Blessing this video teaching would be to the jw pimo's should they find their way here.
I have been trying to convince my parents for a long time and made many overviews. But your video is just straight to the point with tons of evidence. Thank you for that!
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Mr.DC3.1914 has a screw loose. I do not suggest engaging with him.
If you are looking for some scholarly books on the Trinity, I suggest reading some stuff by Fred Sanders. God bless.
@@BasicBiblicalTruth I quoted ALL FROM THE BIBLE, and you just attack me just because I refuted you and you think that 1=66. O MY.
Even Origen called Jesus as the most ancient of all the works of creation ------For the holy Scriptures know Him to be the most ancient of all the works of creation. nOTICE , MOST ANCIENT of ALL THE WORKS OF CREATION.. thus Jesus was part of the creation and he was the most ancient, the eldest, the first in time of that group
Even Origen called Jesus as the most ancient of all the works of creation ------For the holy Scriptures know Him to be the most ancient of all the works of creation. nOTICE , MOST ANCIENT of ALL THE WORKS OF CREATION.. thus Jesus was part of the creation and he was the most ancient, the eldest, the first in time of that group
@@Mr.DC3.1914 and why should we listen to Origen? What makes him know it all?
As an ex JW took a while to fully surrender to the will of Holy Spirit. Continue to plant seed and let the Holy Spirit take control. Keep up the great work.
Even Origen called Jesus as the most ancient of all the works of creation ------For the holy Scriptures know Him to be the most ancient of all the works of creation. nOTICE , MOST ANCIENT of ALL THE WORKS OF CREATION.. thus Jesus was part of the creation and he was the most ancient, the eldest, the first in time of that group
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
you are praising a guy who is an antiChrist, that pretty much tells how much duped you are
An Ex JW who doesn't know the answers? Wow!
@@jimjuri6490 JWs don't know the answers.
This is wonderful. Thank you for sharing and for your research.
Thank you so much, This was absolutely Great ..We thank our
'great God and Savior Jesus Christ' Titus 2:13 for you...It's remarkable how much I've learnt in less than 20 minutes🙏 🙌 ❤
Loved it, will take note of these texts
God bless you for exposing their wicked lies ❤
What is a wicked unbiblical lie is the trinity. There is no such thing as the trinity. Anyone who believes in a trinity is just as apostate from God and from Biblical truth as are the jehovah's witnesses.
this is by far the best video explaining the trinity. well done brother blessings from Ethiopia
All i can say is WOW and WOW again,GOD bless you my brother
Sadly, JWs are more interested in defending their beliefs than learning the truth revealed in the Bible.
Because JWs are a cult.
Their more interested in growing beards these days 😂
Oh! Really?? Well I'm not a Jehovah's Witness but just like your churches that I've attended, I've attended theirs too. So what truth do you think they don't believe in that's in the Bible. Because while I'm not a Jehovah's Witness, I have extensive knowledge of what the scriptures say. I spent 5 years in prison and all I did was read my Bible's (all 5 of them) every single day from 7:30 in the morning to 5:00 in the afternoon. So what truth do they not believe in that's in the Bible. Because I promise you that I'm about to show you some truths that you're gonna deny and reject. I guarantee it. But please do explain the truths that the don't believe in.
@@ScottRock-mr6qk
Grow a spine and admit it that you are part of them, NOBODY will ever defend a non christian denomination if he/she is not part of them.
really where is the world trinity where anywhere in scripture and how come it can be shown to be a man made doctine goole it study it dont just belive it cos your told too
If Jesus Christ is not God, can He make us the righteousness of God? 2Co 5:21 For our sake he made him to be sin who knew no sin, so that in him we might become the righteousness of God. Great video ❤
Hallelujah, all praises to the only 1 Triune God, Father Son Holy Spirit 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾
It's only logical that the JWs are wrong on the Trinity. The 5 "translators" of the New World Translation couldn't read Hebrew or Greek. Not one of them
One "translator" of the NWT (George Gangas)had as a qualification to translate the bible was his vast experience at flipping burgers at a local diner, prior to joining the JWs. No schooling in Hebrew or Koine Greek,
The WT also claim another member of the NWT (Fred Franz) to be “Frederick W. Franz . . . an eminent Bible scholar”
WT 8/1/1977, p. 463”
AND
“Frederick Franz, a scholar of Hebrew, Greek, Syriac, and Latin FAITH MARCH, p. 182”
And yet the WT advised that our friend Freddie Franz never completed University.
*****
SO FREDDIE FRANZ IS THE ONLY PERSON IN HISTORY TO BE A SCHOLAR OF THE LANGUAGES HE COULDN'T READ OR TRANSLATE.
*****
If the WT can't define what a Scholar is, how can they get the definition of the Trinity correct.
The trinity is pagan in origin and has no merit in the Bible at all. Why?? Because there was No trinity in the Old Testament and he says in Malachi that I am the LORD and I do not change and yet two pages later, oh look he changed and is now three are one. No! That's not my God and never will be because he DOES NOT LIE! And you people of the trinity doctrine think that he did lie because he changed. No sir. And I know the trinity doctrine. It states that all three are equal and all three are all-knowing. So if the trinity is true then why does Jesus say at Mark 13:32 Heaven and earth are passing away, but my words will by no means pass away. Concerning that day and hour nobody knows, Not the Angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Soooo If all three are equal and all three are all-knowing why then doesn't Jesus know when Heaven and earth are passing away??? If he's equal to the Father then why doesn't he know??? And where is the Holy Spirit?? Why isn't he mentioned here?? But we'll leave the H.S. out of this. You can explain to me why Jesus doesn't know when Heaven and earth are passing away if they are all equal and all are all-knowing????? You know why?? Because they aren't equal and they aren't all-knowing because Jesus is below God Almighty. That's why and that makes your trinity doctrine have a kink in it. Huh!
@@ScottRock-mr6qk Dear "Scott on the Rocks" you make the claim the the Trinity is pagan in origin.
Please provide 5 actual scholars that are peer reviewed that are experts in church history to confirm your silly claim.
That 5 scholars Scott, not your opinion.
Please don't quote from the WT either as that would be circular reasoning.
So go and get me these 5 scholars who are peer reviewed in this area and get back to me.
Happy hunting Scott, you'll be gone a long time.
Maybe your little imaginary supposition about the Trinity and its pagan origin will also be "on the Rocks".
I wish you all the best.
BTW, can you get me the qualifications of ALL the NWT translation committee.
Check.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@RowanTasmanian Babylonia
"The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23).
@RowanTasmanian Here's two Roweine.
As Bible scholars John McClintock and James Strong explain: "Towards the end of the 1st century, and during the 2d, many learned men came over both from Judaism and paganism to Christianity. These brought with them into the Christian schools of theology their Platonic ideas and phraseology" (Cyclopaedia of Biblical, Theological, and Ecclesiastical Literature, 1891, Vol. 10, "Trinity," p. 553).
Dont worry, I'll get you three more by days end, right now i have something else more pressing than talking with a trinitrian to think about. Fear not Rewenie. I'll get them for you.
New PIMO here. Still trying to figure this out. Not quite convinced. But I appreciate the video. Thank you.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
If you have any questions, I'd be happy to help. If you are looking for a good book, I suggest "Putting Jesus in his Place" by Robert Bowman.
Don't listen to all these "doctrines" that people are simply repeating. - Get a regular Bible, read the New Testament, and ask God to give you wisdom and reveal His truth to you.
@@BasicBiblicalTruth PLAIN AND SIMPLE and yet you cannot understand - WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
Even Origen called Jesus as the most ancient of all the works of creation ------For the holy Scriptures know Him to be the most ancient of all the works of creation. nOTICE , MOST ANCIENT of ALL THE WORKS OF CREATION.. thus Jesus was part of the creation and he was the most ancient, the eldest, the first in time of that group
Even Origen called Jesus as the most ancient of all the works of creation ------For the holy Scriptures know Him to be the most ancient of all the works of creation. nOTICE , MOST ANCIENT of ALL THE WORKS OF CREATION.. thus Jesus was part of the creation and he was the most ancient, the eldest, the first in time of that group
This video impressed me so much. Thank you for teaching us
🔥 Brother, tysm. Glory be to God!! Lord knows I was wondering how to speak to a JW. Please pray. Thank God and you so much for your work. Do you give permission to use your material, including translating it? Can't wait for part 2!! Tysm again!!
This is so good! Looking forward to part 2
Excellent presentation and collection of verses. Thank you!
- Way too much emphasis and importance is always placed on the Trinity doctrine. Our salvation is not determined by belief in it.
how would you go about proving that to a trinitarian?
@@xxxViceroyxxx- The Bible itself is very clear that our salvation is not determined by belief in it.
that's not much of a polemic. @@VAIO294
@@xxxViceroyxxx- No one in the Holy Bible confessed belief in a trinity doctrine, even when Jesus Himself asked Peter _"Who do you say I am."_
--->Matthew 16:15-17 ~ _“He (Jesus) said to them, _*_‘But who do you say that I am?*’ Simon Peter answered, *‘You are THE CHRIST, the Son of the living God.’_*_ And Jesus said to him, _*_‘BLESSED are you, Simon Barjona,_*_ because flesh and blood did not reveal this to you, but My Father who is in heaven.’”_
So, Peter simply confessed Jesus as being *_"THE CHRIST, the Son of the living God."_* --- Jesus did NOT correct Peter and say, *_"YOU HAVE NO SALVATION unless you ALSO confess that I am "fully God and fully man."_* --- Instead, Jesus said Peter was _"BLESSED."_
--- Yes, Peter was saved *without* Jesus requiring any confession of Him being a Trinitarian *_"fully God and fully man."_*
@@VAIO294John 20:28?
Well done!!!!
Thank you so much for your hard work thoroughly researched explanations. I'm so glad I've come across your channel. I'm binge watching your videos.
This video is perfect, I learnt a lot myself. God bless you🤍✝️
Phenomenal video as always mate!
jws please address point at 1:05 if the Trinity comes from the mind of the devil Why does the 1981 watchtower magazine article page 29 state the following:
They say that it is sufficient to read the Bible exclusively, either alone or in small groups at home. But, strangely, through such ‘Bible reading,’ they have reverted right back to the apostate doctrines that commentaries by Christendom’s clergy were teaching 100 years ago, end quote. what is this apostate doctrine the bible teaches according to watchtower.
points from 4:05 to 17:56 the governing body themselves would run.
Babylonia
"The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23).
@@Mr.DC3.1914 MrDC3 my question pertains to the watchtower claim that Bible reading people without the guidance of the governing body will revert back to a doctrine of satan.
is the watchtower saying in this article the Holy Scriptures teach this false doctrine? are you in agreement with them on this
you have the mic sir
this is amazinG! thankyou so much! If only I could get my JW family to see and ACCEPT this.
Even Origen called Jesus as the most ancient of all the works of creation ------For the holy Scriptures know Him to be the most ancient of all the works of creation. nOTICE , MOST ANCIENT of ALL THE WORKS OF CREATION.. thus Jesus was part of the creation and he was the most ancient, the eldest, the first in time of that group
@@Mr.DC3.1914 ,..What/who is origen? And who cares what he said? It only matters what the Bible says, and nowhere does the Bible say that God is a trinity.
@@seasonedwithsalt5129 Matthew 28:19.
@@misterauctor7353 ,...This scripture in no way whatsoever supports the 100% fake manmade trinity. What it does say is for the Christians to teach the lost, and I am teaching you there in no such thing as a trinity.
The phrase baptize them in the name of the father, the son, and the holy Ghost simply means teach them, (immerse them in) the truth of the Bible. And the truth of the Bible is there is no trinity. That the entire church is apostate.
In the new testament age, God has sent his son to redeem the few who Jesus the son, came to save, and after Jesus did what he came to do, the Holy Spirit/Ghost is the one who remains to teach those Jesus saved the truth of the Bible. And again, the truth of the Bible is, there is no trinity. God is seven spirits and not three. Anyone who does not understand this doesn't because the Holy Spirit has nothing to do with them. They are all being taught by the phony preachers/teachers/pastors of the apostate church, not by the Holy Spirit.
Matthew Ch. 28,
19, "Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:"
They claim that the trinity is a false belief and yet they claim that Jesus is a god, so they believe in two Gods
@@davidagnew8792JWs are polytheists*
who are the gods in GOD of gods?
David, the quote says, "The Jehovah’s Witnesses offer people a moralistic monotheistic religion." It does not claim they are monotheist, but that they _offer_ people a monotheistic religion. JW's claim all the time that they are monotheistic, but polytheistic henotheists.
Polytheism is the belief in many gods, which is what JWs believe in.
Henotheism is the adherence to one god out of many, which is what JWs do.
JWs think that monolatry (the worship of one God) = monotheism, but that simply isn't true. JW are polytheists who have a pantheon of gods. Jehovah is the big god, Jesus is the medium god, and angels are the small gods.
@@BasicBiblicalTruth who are the gods in GOD of gods?
@@BasicBiblicalTruth according to the BIBLE, and the Bible use the term GOD of gods. who are the gods in GOD of gods?
From, “Let your kingdom come “- page 70-
“Satan tried to have Jesus think that he, as the Son of God, was someone important
-a celebrity.”
Does that not blow your mind?!
Anti-Christ really.
What is, "let your kingdom come" ?
@@seasonedwithsalt5129is this a serious question?
It’s another of many long winded watchtower publications which you can find in their online library.
@@K_e_n_ ,....Yes, it is a serious question. So, from the writings of the Jehovah's witnesses they say what you quoted here? Yes, this is mind blowing that anyone could be so willingly ignorant to be deceived by this nonsense.
The jehovah's witnesses the mormons, the catholics, and the orthodox are the pinnacle of the willingly ignorant. Everything they all believe is complete unbiblical nonsense.
@@seasonedwithsalt5129 For the Kingdom of God is not food or drinks , but righteousness, peace, and joy on the Holy Syrit [Romans 14:7] : It is within you [Luke 17:20-21]
John 3:3-7 Jesus answered, Veroly, verily I say unto thee, except a man be "Born Again",[of water and Spirit] he cannot see the Kingdom of God....1st Peter 1:25 Being "Born Again" ...by the Word of God [CHRIST], which liveth and abideth forever. ,,,1st Peter 1:25 But the Word of the Lord endureth forever and this is the Word which by the Gospel is preach unto you ...Therefore if any man be "In Christ".[ Colossians 1:26-27 ; 2:2-3] he is a new creation [Born Again]. ...1st John 5:1 Whoever believe that JESUS is the CHRIST[1st John 2:22-24; 4:1-11; 2nd John 7-11] is Born of God.🙏🛐
God is 3 persons ONE spirit being that is Holy. You can’t get any plainer than the following scriptures “Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father” John 14:9 and “Jesus is the image of the invisible God” Colossians 1:15.
John 14:11
“Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe [Me] because of the [very] works themselves [which you have witnessed].”
This video was a blessing. That you Jesus
Beautifully done!!
G'day D H, brilliant work. This is some of your best work presented in this video. Flawless apologetics. Thanks heaps.
You know you are upsetting the demons when they appear in droves over a video on youtube. All the JWs, Universalists, Modalists, and Arians commenting on this video mean it is really upsetting them, kind of like Legion, the demon who said, "We are many." All of Legion's comments show they are convicted by the Truth in Christ, and hate the fact they want to remain in their sin.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
@@Mr.DC3.1914 Hey Legion, how are ya doing?
@@richbaker7187 that's your own group btw. you cannot deny HISTORY and FACTS - your pagan trinity was formulate only AFTER 400 YEARS -
FROM BRITANNICA -
The Council of Nicaea in 325 stated the crucial formula for that doctrine in its confession that the Son is “of the same substance [homoousios] as the Father,” even though it said very little about the Holy Spirit. Over the next half century, St. Athanasius defended and refined the Nicene formula, and, by the end of the 4th century, under the leadership of St. Basil of Caesarea, St. Gregory of Nyssa, and St. Gregory of Nazianzus (the Cappadocian Fathers), the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.
@@richbaker7187 Babylonia
"The ancient Babylonians recognised the doctrine of a trinity, or three persons in one god-as appears from a composite god with three heads forming part of their mythology, and the use of the equilateral triangle, also, as an emblem of such trinity in unity" (Thomas Dennis Rock, The Mystical Woman and the Cities of the Nations, 1867, pp. 22-23).
@@Mr.DC3.1914 DC, we went over all this before. You just cut and paste WT literature, and it's been debunked so many times over. You are just sad.
I am not a Jehohas Witness but don't see how anyone with a reasoning brain can believe Jesus the son is the heavenly Father.
Can you reasonably explain how God mad the universe out of nothing?
Thank you so much for this! Such a great video! It is extremely unfortunate that the people in the JW religion are so hungry for God and being lead away from him, straight to eternal suffering. God bless their souls. I pray the true God reveals himself to them. Praise God.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Amen! I pray that too!
My landlords were born into the JW's and it breaks my heart.
They seem so sincere.
@@CherylArsenault123 WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Who told you to call God a trinity was it from heaven or man? luke 20:4
They [Isaiah 48:16] are One [Zechariah 14:9/ Acts 5:3-4&9] It is Written !
@@marbymendez8021 one what? Are you saying no to the God of Jesus Christ? Ephesians 1:3
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WOW, this is SO well done!!
Your video brings more light to understand about Trinity, & many scriptures to prove it ,God bless
I believe Jesus is god I don’t know how to tell my parents. I’m unbaptized. I don’t know what they’ll think of me but I know what the truth is.
Amen,your in the right path unfortunately jw org has many good people in it but the deception is real,Jesus must be lord of thier life's, keep praying and ask the most high for guidance
Just show them this video. I might do that, mine are in the same (sinking) boat.
Jesus is god in the sense that he has been given all honor, authority and even given his holy name for a time. He is not god almighty though
@@Simplebibletruths Isaiah 9:6.
@@lulubellers yes. "Mighty" god. Not almighty god "prince" of peace not "king" this is a terrible verse to use if your a trinitarian 😆
I do not belong to any religion. But what you are saying about God being a trinity makes no sense. How can you speak of God as him then say they are 3 separate persons. God should be they. If the Father is holy and a spirit then isn’t the Holy Spirt actually the Father? If the Father sits on his throne and the son sits at Gods right hand, where does the Holy Spirit sit? How is it none of Jesus apostles only ever honoured the Father and the Son but ignored the person of the Holy Spirit? The trinity teaching is religious garbage.
James 4:11 " Speak not evil one of another, brethren. He that speaketh evil of his brother, and judgeth his brother, speaketh evil of the law, and judgeth the law: but if thou judge the law, thou art not a doer of the law, but a judge." KJV
Thanks again!
Isaiah 43:10 is a prophecy about JWs in these last days.
They declare: 'that I am the SAME ONE. Before me no God was formed, And after me there has been none.'
Jesus and the Holy spirit were additions to God by the apostasy.
Romans 1:25 They exchanged the truth of God for the lie and venerated and rendered sacred service to the creation rather than the Creator, who is praised forever.
How is that possible since verse 14 talks about the chaldeans, who don’t exist anymore. There is no evidence this is a prophecy about a religion that originated from Brooklyn New York. You have to prove it.
Isaiah 43 is about Jews.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry: A PROPHECY is about a FUTURE event.
Who are Jehovah's Witnesses if not JWs?
Who else is declaring that God has never changed (cf Malachi 3:6).
Read Isaiah 43:10 carefully.
@@misterauctor7353 : Read Isaiah 43:10 carefully. It is a prophecy.
Verse 21 The people whom I formed for myself So that they might declare my praise. 22 But you have not called on me, O Jacob, Because you grew weary of me, O Israel.
People who grew weary of God cannot be his Witnesses, can they.
JWs replaced the Jews as God's people.
(Hosea 2:23) I will sow her like seed for myself in the earth, And I will show mercy to her who was not shown mercy; I will say to those NOT MY PEOPLE: “YOU ARE MY PEOPLE,” And they will say: “You are my God.”’”
@@jimjuri6490 Seriously Jim, Rutherford came up with that name, this is the same Rutherford who had the Watchtower pay for 2 and I mean TWO Cadillacs that he was chauffeur driven around during the Great Depression whilst everyone was homeless Jobless and starving.
This same Rutherford also said in a prophecy "Millions now living will never die" and that Armageddon would definitely occur in 1925.
How about that prophecy by the same author Jim ?
Are those "Millions now living" still living or are they all dead Jim ??????????.
Did Abraham Isaac and Jacob return to San Diego in 1925 as Rutherford (Your Prophet) said they would ????
Hmmmm.
Checkmate Jimbo.
Thank youuu 😭 God bless you more in Jesus name 🙏🏽
who told you to say The FAther is greater in only certain aspects?
Excellent !!
it is just mind blowing! thanks a lot!
Hello and thank you for this video
Question; How is it God told Satan in the book of Job "Not to take the life of the man Job",and Satan listen to God and did'nt.
But eventually allows himself to be put to death by Satan?
Then HOW can GOD'S majesty, might, and authority be FOR ALL PAST ETERNITY and now and into ALL ETERNITY??? Jude 25, If as part of the trinty He dies? Where does God die or needs to? He can't be from eternity to eternity if he dies!?
IF GOD died in any shape or form
Then HE is not who HE claimes to be. Almighty, from everlasting to everlasting?
Or is Yehoshua Gods sent forth one, ambassador, apostel? John 8:42 John 5:19
Say what you want, the sourse OF life CAN NOT DIE!
If Satan could have tricked God into unaliving himself in any shape or form, then God's claim to being ALMIGHTY, would be in question.
HOW can the sourse of life
Extinguish it's self? Better still "why?" He told Satan not to take the gift of life from his servant Job beacuse it is his gift. As God Almighty the original sourse of light and life why would He unalive him self to prove a point He already extablished with Satan and Satan didn't challenge? ( Satan was told not to take Job's life and he didn't )
If God say's who lives and who dies, and IT can not be legally challenged! Why would He be expected to give up his OWN LIFE?
I've looked and looked, prayed and prayed over the course of years.......
Yehovah, Yehoshua never showed it to me.
Being a JW is about serving the Watchtower organization. Period. The Watchtower will do whatever they can do to isolate their members as much as possible though whatever means possible, mostly through heretical and otherwise weird teachings.
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
I with my good friend would watch this video . I’ll keep praying for her
Jesus said in Matthew 12:25 that every kingdom-every house-divided against itself is brought to desolation. It cannot stand. When the enemy goes hard after your family using division, the answer is reconciliation. We should not try to cause divisions we should love and help each other, spirit has a mind so can also have personhood.
Oh yes you did it!! ❤
PSALM 83:18 SAYS JEHOVAH IS THE MOST HIGH OVER ALL THE EARTH.
What a gem.
Amen!
Can you explain Rev.1:8 if that is Christ or not?
Revelation 1:8 is absolutely not Jesus. Revelation 1:8 is God Almighty, it’s not Jesus.
@@Jimmy5991-eb3re
I know so how can a trinitarian explain that? Are you a unitarian?
Blessings
I still don’t understand the Trinity. I woke up 2 years ago and I’m still living a nightmare not knowing what to believe except that God exists which is pretty sad.
If you need help, please reach out. I made this channel for people like you.
@@LightoverDarkMinistry I really appreciate that! I’ve been reading everything I can on Christian doctrines and studying the Bible objectively on my own for 2 years now but I still feel stuck when it comes to certain teachings and I’m afraid I may be going backwards.
15:25 is John 1:3, not 1 John 1:3
Ahhh darn it! I thought I double checked everything!!
Jehovah has never been seen by any human.
Great video. Jesus created ALL things. Cross reference to Genesis 1:1 " in the beginning God created the heav be and the earth "
Yet Jesus created ALL things. Jesus is God
Isa 9:6 which called Jesus as SAR WHICH means in Hebrew PATRON ANGEL. Also the Bible uses the words MADE for Jesus, Acts 2:36, EGENETO which means COME INTO BEING OR MADE - Mat 21, which is the EXACT WORD used for the other creations in JOhn 1:3, and also PRODUCED/CREATED as Wisdom Prov 8, and GIVEN LIFE in John 5:26, and those terms are used for a CREATION, even Jesus ADMITTED, I LIVE BECAUSE OF THE FATHER - John 6:57. Even COL 1 which uses the words DIA - A CHANNEL OF AN ACT AND EN- instrumentality.
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This is so beautifully done. I’ve been making a notebook of notations of the JW false doctrines (and also true Scripture to counter) to witness to my dad and I’m going to take pictures of the screenshots of ypur wonderful slides and add them in my notebook to present to him. Thank you so much for your work!!!!. God bless you and all glory to the Father, Christ and the Holy Spirit!!!!
WHO IS OVER ALL? Ephesians 4:6 one God and Father of all, who is over all and through all and in all. GOD and FATHER is OVER/ABOVE ALL and that "All" includes the SON so they are NOT EQUAL
THE BIBLE teaches that Jesus was MADE As Lord and Christ and as Son (ACTS 2:36, Prov 8, HEB 1:5), CREATED/PRODUCED/INSTALLED (Prov 8) , COME INTO BEING/MADE (Mat 21:42 - egeneto) and GIVEN LIFE by the Father - John 5:26 and it uses TODAY (Heb 1:5), and uses future tenses and is a prophecy in Isa 9:6 (Isa 9:6, - WILL BE) . If you are called MADE AND CREATED AND GIVEN LIFE, and NEVER CALLED in the BIBLE as Creator or Maker , then you are A CREATION. ALL FROM THE BIBLE
From the Lord was this (this is referring to the chief cornerstone who is Jesus) , the word WAS is egeneto (made or came into being) - Matthew 21:42 and the exact Greek word used in John 1:3 - MADE, egeneto (came into being) - JESUS WAS MADE/CAME INTO BEING FROM THE FATHER , yes, Jesus was MADE/CREATED!, See also Acts 2:36, Heb 1:5, 1 john 5
Isa 9:6 the word Prince in the Prince of Peace means PATRON ANGEL also Leader. WHO IS the ONE LEADER that we have? Jesus. Now, that same exact Hebrew word was used for Daniel 12:1 which is used for Michael the Archangel. So are you saying there are MANY LEADERS now?
Just a heads up, it's John 1:3. Not 1John 1:3
Oh I know :'(
Five reasons why jehivahs witnesses reject trinity (truly true)
the Bible uses the words MADE for Jesus, Acts 2:36, EGENETO which means COME INTO BEING OR MADE - Mat 21, which is the EXACT WORD used for the other creations in JOhn 1:3, and also PRODUCED/CREATED as Wisdom Prov 8, and GIVEN LIFE in John 5:26, and those terms are used for a CREATION, even Jesus ADMITTED, I LIVE BECAUSE OF THE FATHER - John 6:57. Even COL 1 which uses the words DIA - A CHANNEL OF AN ACT AND EN- instrumentality.
IF ALL ELSE FAILS, LOOK AT THE TRINITY EMBOLEM. THE FATHER IS NOT THE SON, THE SON IS NOT THE FATHER. as Jerry springer says ,,,, Jesus is NOT the father !
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JOHN 13:16 SAYS A SLAVE IS NOT GREATER THAN HIS MASTER, NOR ONE THAT IS SENT(JESUS) GREATER THAN THE ONE WHO SENT HIM.(JEHOVAH)
WALK BY FAITH AND NOT BY SIGHT ALWAYS, AMEN 🙌🙏😷😊🤲🎶👧✨️🙆♀️😆👍😄👏💯👌🧎♀️📖🤗🎊🙋♀️😃HALLELUJAH GLORY TO GOD ✝️ 🙏 🙌
With all your comments here you have only exposed that your christianity is a fraud. Repent, and learn what the truth, the gospel, and the Christianity of the Bible actually is.
Go therefore into all the earth baptizing them in the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. As the video states, if you deny the Son is God then you deny thr Spirit is God too. both of whom are identigied in Scripture as God.
This video explains a lot of logical fallcies and contradictions that come when you deny Jesus as God. Pointing out what Paul says that there is one God and one Lord and then pointing out that the Father is truly Lord shows your attention to detail.
As well your dismbiguation of John 17:3 really hit the nail on thr head. The "and" in the verse is a key word. Jesus Christ is always lumped in with the Farher in everything, no where is it seen more than Revelation. For instance Revelation 20:6 says and they shall be priests of God and His Christ and they shall reign for a thousand years. Who are they priests of? Of God AND Jesus Christ. Priestly service is devotion and service that can only rightly be given to God.
"Theos" without the definite article can refer to divinely empowered representatives of JEHOVAH.BWe gave this on no less an authority than the Bible itself.
John Ch.10:34,35NKJV"Jesus answered them, “Is it not written in your law, ‘I said, “You are gods” ’? 35If He called them gods, to whom the word of God came (and the Scripture cannot be broken)," This is a reference of psalms Ch.82:6NKJV"I said, “You are [e]gods,
And all of you are children of the Most High."
Moses is called elohim/theos at exodus Ch.7:1KJV"And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet. "
Angels are called gods: psalms ch.8:5KJV"For thou hast made him a little lower than the angels, and hast crowned him with glory and honour." Any good interlinear would show elohim as the Hebrew rendered angels. So Logos being God minus the definite article does not establish him as equally God as the God he was with especially since the God he was with I.e his God and Father is the ONLY one ever referred to as the MOST HIGH God. See Luke ch.1:32
Want to come on and talk about it?
Where did Jesus say he is the I AM?
Typical question from someone who reads Watch Tower magazines instead of the Bible.
@@nonconformist4802 is that a no to the God of Jesus?
@@bretherenlee1404
No that is a statement made that you are an ignorant fool
Google it : There are so many including Revelation 22:13-16
@@marbymendez8021 show where Jesus says that he is the I AM
The holy words will defeat all trinity and watchtower people. They have no place to hide no place to run
No man has seen God and yet live.. yet men have seen Jesus.. God is all-knowing.. Jesus is not God cannot die.. Jesus died, Jesus said the father is greater than I am.. that's crystal clear, and the word trinity is not in the Bible, and Jesus NEVER said he was God.. NEVER
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Jesus is Lord God Almighty clothed in unsinful humanity and He is the author of *eternal life* to all who trust Him alone for salvation 💓.
He paid for all the sins of all the world at the cross (past, present, and future). That payment is put to your account when you have believed on Christ alone for salvation 💐💖💐💖.
*This means that saving repentance is realizing that you are a sinner deserving of God's just punishment in Hell and turn (repent) from whatever you trusted in before, if indeed you trusted in anything; to trusting in the person and finished work of Christ alone for salvation.*
Even a Christian cannot brush aside the worship of Jehovah as God. In Revelation 1:5 the Son of God called himself "Jesus Christ, 'The Faithful Witness.'" When on earth as a man he was a Jew, an Israelite, to whose nation the words of Isaiah 43:10 were written: "'You are my witnesses, is the utterance of Jehovah, 'even my servant whom I have chosen.'" Jesus demonstrated that he was a faithful and true witness of Jehovah God. His genuine disciples today must be the same kind of witnesses, Jehovah's.
Everything you said contradicts itself.
Please explain how
The apostles twisted the scriptures so that no trinitarian will be saved, @Acts, 5:28-32/ Romans, 10:9, If you confess that Jesus is lord ,and did not believed in your heart that Jehovah rose Jesus from the dead, you will be saved,😭
Soon, The apostles will slams the reference books to the trinitarian theologists faces and says, Hey, that's not Jesus's instructions that we preached.you better read these first. Mat.10:26-28/13:10-11/Mark,4:34/ Deut.32:39/1st Sam.2:6-7 /2nd.Kings,5:7.
Why didn't the Bible ever say anything about the Trinity.
That was never its purpose. The Bible as you know it was not established until 60 years AFTER the council of Nicaea, and 300 years AFTER the writings them selves. It was Nicaea in 325 when the church began to develop the Trinity doctrine well before they produced the Bible.
Jehovah God's Glory
The Two Witnesses!
Elijah - Song of the Lamb
Moses - Song of Moses
Matthew 16:27-28 Son of man is to come in the glory of his Father with his angels. Christ in His glory on the Mount of Transfiguration which begins in the very next verse (17:1). Here Christ does literally appear in a glorified form, and some of His apostles are there to witness the occasion, namely Peter, James, and John. This transfiguration experience, of course, was only a foretaste of His Second Coming when all believers will see Him come in power and great glory (cf. Acts 1:11; Rev. 1:7).
Matthew 17:1 Six days later Jesus took Peter and James and his brother John along and led them up into a lofty mountain by themselves. 2 And he was transfigured before them; his face shone as the sun, and his outer garments became brilliant as the light. 3 And look! there appeared to them Moses and E·liʹjah conversing with him.
Jesus is the head of the true congregation of Jehovah God! The two witnesses are the two olive trees and two lampstands. A lampstand represents the true Congregation of Christ (Rev 1), and an olive tree also represents God's people (Rom 11). The link between the two is that as the Congregation walks in obedience they bear fruit (olives) which provides the oil which keeps their lamp lit. The two witnesses are therefore two obedient groups,one that will walk in the spirit and power of Elijah and one that will walk in the spirit and power of Moses.
The Song of Moses!
Jehovah's Witnesses are the voice in the wilderness. But people are upset . They listened to the voice and was baptized. Was the Nation of Israel upset because they was baptized crossing the Red Sea. They didn't even know how much Jehovah loved them.
Revelation 21:4
4 And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes...
no more,... mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
The Gentile Times.
Jehovah's Witnesses use prophetic year for Gentile Times to arrive at 1914 for last days of a 120 years. For the Elijah to arrive first. This is how they have over lapping generations. 1914 + 120 is 2034.
The Gentile Times by history is 1934 . A generation to the God of Abraham is 100 years. 1934 + 100 is 2034 also. Then back up for the 42 months (2030) or 7 year tribulation. 2023!
Also by Jehovah's Witnesses using the prophetic year of the Bible. Adam was created 4026 bce.
- 4026 bce + 6000 is 1974. But to enter into Jehovah's rest. Is 60 years. Jehovah said they would die in the wilderness from age 20 and up. So 40 years plus 20 is 60 years.
1974 plus 60 years is 2034 also.
Jehovah then said to Moses and Aaron: 27 “How much longer will this evil assembly keep up this murmuring against me? I have heard what the Israelites are murmuring against me. 28 Say to them, ‘“As surely as I live,” declares Jehovah, “I will do to you just what I have heard you speak! 29 In this wilderness your corpses will fall, yes, the whole number of you from 20 years old and up who were registered, all of you who have murmured against me.
Hebrews 3:9 where your forefathers put me to the test and tried me, despite seeing my works for 40 years. 10 This is why I became disgusted with this generation and said: ‘They always go astray in their hearts, and they have not come to know my ways.’ 11 So I swore in my anger: ‘They will not enter into my rest.’”
Hebrews 4:2 For we who have exercised faith do enter into the rest, just as he has said: “So I swore in my anger, ‘They will not enter into my rest,’” although his works were finished from the founding of the world. 4 For in one place he has said of the seventh day as follows: “And God rested on the seventh day from all his works,” 5 and here again he says: “They will not enter into my rest.”
6 Therefore, since it remains for some to enter into it, and those to whom the good news was first declared did not enter in because of disobedience, 7 he again marks off a certain day by saying long afterward in David’s psalm, “Today”; just as it has been said above, “Today if you listen to his voice, do not harden your hearts.” 8 For if Joshua had led them into a place of rest, God would not afterward have spoken of another day. 9 So there remains a sabbath-rest for the people of God. 10 For the man who has entered into God’s rest has also rested from his own works, just as God did from his own.
11 Let us therefore do our utmost to enter into that rest, so that no one may fall into the same pattern of disobedience.
14 Therefore, since we have a great high priest who has passed through the heavens, Jesus the Son of God, let us hold on to our public declaration of him.
The 7 year tribulation had begun!
Joel 2:15 Blow a horn in Zion! Proclaim a fast; call for a solemn assembly. 16 Gather the people; sanctify the congregation. Collect the old men; gather the children and nursing infants. Let the bridegroom go out from his inner chamber, and the bride from her bridal chamber.
The conclusion of the preaching and disciple-making work means that the harvest phase begins. And during the harvest all the sons of the Kingdom are gathered into the storehouse; thus, precluding any more preaching and teaching. The final witness work will not be a message of salvation - but of certain doom for Satan’s world.
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Where does it sayTrinity in the bible? Where does it say, co-equal, co-enternal? It can be challenging to wrap out heads around the doctrine. This is how this video starts. All trinitarian made up jargon. It fails before it starts. The bible is simple, God is one, the father. Jesus is the son of God as he has stated
The word Trinity is not in the bible anywhere. It is our interpretation as we read the bible we begin to see the interpretation. Just as charles taze russell founded the jdubs by his interpretation of the bible. He wasnt the sharpest knife in the drawer to not see it but neither were the five men un-educated in ancient greek who re-translated the bible and wrote their nwt. If you could get jdubs to trade their nwt for a nasb and read it they would start to see all of it as the rest of us do. But thats an impossability as that would be apostasy to them.
The question is not about translators. Were those who wrote the originals scholars of any sort?
BTW JWs were being gathered by God long before any NWT came out. See the prophecy ay Micah 4:1-5.
@@jimjuri6490 there' s no prophecy there jim. The scripture basically saying lets all of different nations go up to the lords house high on the mountain. There's no gathering of jdubs going on there. Are you sure you know what your saying or talking about? I dont think you are. And yea the first early translators knew what they were doing. The 5 jw men who translated the bible into the nwt did not know what they were doing jim. They were NOT Educated in ancient greek to translate the bible.
Do you want to try again or have something more to say jim?
@@jimjuri6490 really??? Then please explain why ALL Bible believing people, including JWs, receive their rule of faith, the Bible, from the Catholic/Orthodox church, the Bride of Christ… Why, if you were the ones “being gathered by God long before any NWT came out” did yall rely on the Catholic/Orthodox church….
History shows us that Jesus didn't leave us a bible, - the apostles didn't tell us which books belong in the bible, - the church fathers never agreed on the 27 books of the NT through the 4th century, - not only did they not agree but their individual lists of would-be NT canons were GROWING during this time, growing in numbers of hundreds of “inspired” NT writings.
Therefore, if it wasn't the Catholic/Orthodox church that compiled the 27 books of the NT in the 5th century with the guidance of the Holy Spirit, and preserved it by laboriously hand copying them over and over throughout the centuries before the invention of the printing press, the “rule of faith” for many, please tell us who did? And if this church no longer exists today, what good is the text which came forth from her if she couldn't sustain herself?
What you seem to be missing is that jesus was "given" the name of god. Phillipians 2:8-9 and john 17:11 teaches that jesus is lord, but its a given name.
He gives that authority back as you know in 1 corinthians 15:28.
Jesus repeatedly denied that he was god, but was the son of god. The jews did not accuse jesus of claiming to be god, but the son of god.
Jesus was also "given" life in the father as john 5:26 tells us.
Jesus was also "given" authority in matthew 28:18
So the trinitarians get confused because they dont understand that jesus was "given" the name of god. Thats why old testament prophecies using the name jehovah refers to jesus.
I will say though that jesus does appear to be in the form of god. He is not like an angel who was made a little higher than angels.
He is most certainly not god though and the bible does not teach this lie
The Son of God (John 20:31) is "my God" (John 20:28).
Given, because he was in a servant state, he emptied himself, and then got it back, he glorified and seated back to his position of power, which is what Phil 2:5-11 teaches.
Where did Jesus deny he was God? This is news to me. I’ve read the Bible many times, never seen that.
@@LightoverDarkMinistryno. Given because he never had it to begin with. He wasn't"given it back" "God exalted him to a superior position and kindly gave him his holy name" this is clear and uncompromising to anyone looking at it honestly.
Phillipians 2:5-11 does not teach that he was given back his original position at all. Quite the opposite, its when he was given it
That's why he quotes isaiah and says that every knee should bend in the name of Jesus not jehovah. He has been given that authority
Where did jesus claim that he was god?
He is in that he has been given all authority and honor and even the name of god@@kardiognostesministries8150
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Just have to keep going.... love this study! Jesus himself said there are many gods and many lords. These words are titles. The descriptive term God in Hebrew (ʼEl) and God or Gods -plural ( ʼe·limʹ and elo·himʹ) come from a root meaning - Mighty or Strong one or Powerful one - In many cases when the definite article is used (ha·ʼElʹ, literally, “the God”) this differentiates Jehovah the true sovereign and creator from other Gods - -Ge 46:3; 2Sa 22:31
Some Gods or gods are loyal to the true God (Yahweh) and are like Jesus and are of course righteous. Thus loyal Angels are called gods. Many times, according to context a god is false in comparison to Jehovah and is an evil god like Satan (2 Cor 4:4) and also false gods that are not real but only figments of imagination in false religion like Baal worship (in context when comparing to the true and almighty God Jehovah). Context correctly applied with a scriptural passage using the word God or gods tells us in what way the title God or Lord is used. Also, even a human can be a Lord or God as human judges in Israel as Jesus likened them - Context...context....context! see Ps 86:8 - 1 Cor 8:5-6 - Gen 18:12 - Ex 22:28 - Ex 15:11 - Ex 12:12 - Ps 96:5 (Ps 82:1,6 and quote from Jesus in John 10:34,35)
The usual Greek equivalent of ʼEl and ʼElo·himʹ in the Septuagint translation and the word for “God” or “gods” in the Christian Greek Scriptures is The·osʹ. and Theoí.
The American Journal of Semitic Languages and Literatures, Vol. XXI, 1905, p. 208. says: [ʼElo·himʹ] (as applied to the God of Israel) is especially shown by the fact that it is almost invariably construed with a singular verbal predicate, and takes a singular adjectival attribute. . . . [ʼElo·himʹ] must rather be explained as an intensive plural, denoting greatness and majesty, being equal to The Great God.”- So Yahweh is not two people in one. but he is majestic as the Almighty!
At Psalm 8:5, the angels are also referred to as ʼelo·himʹ, as is confirmed by Paul’s quotation of the passage at Hebrews 2:6-8. They are called benehʹ ha·ʼElo·himʹ, “sons of God” (KJ); “sons of the true God” (NW), at Genesis 6:2, 4; Job 1:6; 2:1.
Lexicon in Veteris Testamenti Libros, by Koehler and Baumgartner (1958), page 134, says: “(individual) divine beings, gods.” And page 51 says: “the (single) gods,” and it cites Genesis 6:2; Job 1:6; 2:1; 38:7. Hence, at Psalm 8:5 ʼelo·himʹ is rendered “angels” (LXX); “godlike ones” so NWT does as well.
Food for thought for honest and real truth seekers who are on the side of Jesus truthful teachings - John 4:24 - John 18:37
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DEUT.6:4 SAYS JEHOVAH YOUR GOD IS ONE JEHOVAH. SO HE'S NOT A TRINITY!
I appreciate all the messages, just one question, are you a JW?
The God head is the Only belief that backs up the logical creation of the universe, the eternal universe, the spirit of God was above the waters in the beginning, so there was the Holy Spirit along with God in the beginning so there’s 2 parts of the God head right there , undeniably, so what can’t logically there be 3 parts to the God head? There is , you can’t have it both ways as a Witness, if two parts exist but are definitely one , Then there’s definitely 3 parts
RE:Heb 1:8 - Psalms 45:9 refers to a human king who has ladies of honor and royal CONSORT/SPOUSE. psalms 45:6 INITIALLY was applied to a human king with a wife and that also was applied to Jesus. the better translation is GOD IS YOUR THRONE, as GOD has no other GOD who was a human king with a WIFE and ladies of honor. the Hebrew Interlinear actually shows the correct order and transliteration as it shows literally , Your throne is /God/Forever/and ever
I looked at the Hebrew interlinear here: scripture4all.org/OnlineInterlinear/OTpdf/psa45.pdf and it says "Thy throne, O God, [is] for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom [is]
a right sceptre.
" Where did you find "Your throne is /God/Forever/and ever"?
@@evanwindom3265 pls look/click at the Hebrew or Hebrew Interlinear at Biblehub for Psalm 45:6
@@evanwindom3265 did you find it in biblehub? psalms 45:6 - Click hebrew
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FROM TERTULLIAN - square brackets mine. - But if this same Wisdom is the Word of God, in the capacity of Wisdom, and (as being He) without whom nothing was made, just as also (nothing) was set in order without Wisdom, how can it be that anything, except the Father, should be OLDER, and on this account indeed NOBLER, than the Son of God, the only-begotten and first-begotten Word? Not to say that what is unbegotten is STRONGER than that which is BORN ([this is Jesus]) , and what is not made more powerful than that which is MADE ([ JESUS]) . Because that which did not require a Maker to give it existence, will be much more ELEVATED in rank than that which had an AUTHOR TO BRING IT INTO BEING ([JESUS])
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11:02 He did not consider himself equal with God. Because he is the Son not the Father
John 10:30.
If GOD is three persons and all are named JEHOVAH, and if you see them in front of you, count one by one, how MANY JEHOVAH do you see? that is THREE JEHOVAH, and Deut 6:4 says JEHOVAH IS ONE JEHOVAH. and THAT IS NOT THREE JEHOVAH