$40,000 H1 HUMMER SHOP SCAM!
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- $40,000 H1 HUMMER SHOP SCAM!
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If I were the owner, I'd refuse to pay and slap that other shop with a lawsuit for fraud (including the unrequested inspection) and $40,000 worth of damages.
also, libel, defamation, and slander come to mind.
Problem is they can hold your vehicle ransom until you pay the bill.
@@rifleman1873 And that's why the cops would be called.
Customer didn't sign anything agreeing to an inspection or mechanic's lien.
Shop can not retain someone's property.
@@rifleman1873 Not sure where this happened, but in my state, you need to have an estimate authorizing any work over $100 and anything over 10% over the estimate. You as the customer have 3 options, I want a written estimate, I want to be notified if it'll go over XXX amount, or I don't want an estimate, just do it. In my shop I would NEVER allow the last one... I want a number at which the customer would want to be called. If they wanted me to "Just do it!" I'd say "OK, so if it's $25K to replace the spark plugs in your escort, I should just do it!?" Please, just give me an amount at which you want to discuss the cost so I don't exceed that. And no way in hell would I be paying for an unauthorized $2K plus "inspection".
@@rifleman1873 yep. States near me allow a "Mechanic's Lien" which allows an auto repair facility to hold your vehicle until a repair invoice is paid.
Problem with not naming them is some other person is probably on their way to getting screwed by them
They probably won't because of legal reasons. It's a smarter move. Specially because this video can be used as evidence as well.
'not naming them ' Apparently 'they' were making these claims publicly. Should be fairly easy to look up.
If it's factual I don't see the need to worry about lawyers. That shop should pray that lawsuits against them haven't flooded in, never mind them going after somebody for stating factual proof.
It is still helpful, because it is a real world example of how a shop will scam you. If you go into any shop to replace just one part, and they slap you with a $40k bill, GTFO!
@@petequinones3454 'If it's factual I don't see the need to worry about lawyers. '
The problem is people can still sue you, even if they'll lose. It only takes filing fees and minor costs to make the suit, and can cost much more to defend yourself against a minor suit
From the next post: You can legally tell the truth about bad service.'
True, but that only means you should win, with a good judge. It can still cost a lot to successfully defend.
And if you make any statement that's overly broad or not quite 100% accurate they can start winning partial judgments, even if you're still basically correct.
Best avoided and let everyone figure out who it is themselves.
$1000 for the power steering, but $1300 oil change?!?! Man, I'm in the wrong business!
Idiotic items by themselves, but they also completely erase any credibility for anything on the invoice. Seems pretty obvious that they just want to take advantage of rich H1 owners that don't know any better.
Defense is the greatest offence
Hey I have a cheaper car which has $1000 bill just to change water pump and it's a gmc
There is a Firestone shop here that is doing the same rip off scams in my town for years
@KTMARV 1 tree fidy
This is Mod Mafia. These idiots are located in Woodland Texas. Don't EVER take your H1 or Humvee there.
BTW it is about time you guys setup a shop here in Texas and keep up the great work!
Mod Mafia, even the name sounds shady
Nice job letting the people know the con artists name.
You will probably save someone a lot of money.
Thanks for having the balls to name drop, YOU ROCK 🤘🤘
This comment needs to rise to the top so people know who the scam artists are. They seem jealous that they are not getting the business Predator Inc is.
LIKE THIS COMMENT TO THE TOP!
Louder.. identifying the screw is important...
As an attorney that represents automobile dealers and specialty shops my clients and I do not tolerate this type of conduct. We regularly have to send cease and desist letters to unscrupulous and predatory competitors; which also include strong language regarding tortious interference and libel and slander (defamation). Your shop is top tier and your reputation speaks for itself. Great video.
I'm thinkn ... if you contact them directly , they will share...
if i got a transmission job I tell the customer i want to replace the rear main seal on the engine. The transmission is out is 5 to 10 minutes to change, and that i want them to enjoy and used the car for years without issues. I don't want to pop the transmission in there and a week later pull the transmission because the rear main started leaking.
Yeah! What he said! ^
Mod Mafia is the shop. They have a video up about this Hummer.
@@billelliott5939 He cant, bar rules are funny like that unless he was retained.
Thank god the Owner was knowledgeable enough to not fall into the trap.
The Owner failed miserably from Day One purchasing the H-1 Hummer. They are Junk and enough said.
@@HighSpeedNoDrag you're a clown. They saved mine, and my brother lifes. You're a fool. You're probably one of the other shops customers
@@sbowden60 They are junk but you behold deep pockets enough said.
I would say he was knowledgeable enough to say no I won't pay $40,000 to repair something I just paid $xxx,xxx for. Stop at your a chain brake shop and see how much a $100 brake job will really cost you. Everyone is after your money, few people will do the work at a reasonable rate and not add a million items to the list to jack up the price.
@@apuckett1971 So true, I remember the first car I had a toyota camry, I put new brake pads on it and afterwards it started making a scraping sound, took it apart to look at it and couldn't figure what I did wrong, so I took it to a pep boys down the street, told them the noise I was hearing and said I was pretty sure it was the brakes. They call me back later that day after I took it in and told me the axle was broken, and some other stuff and wanted to charge me 5k in repairs. (It was a 1991 with 160k miles on it) The car wasn't even worth that much money. Told them no and when I drove it away, the scraping sound was gone, they had inadvertantly fixed my issue, and I didn't have to pay them anything since no work was done. Shady shops are everywhere. (This was back in 2003)
"MOD MAFIA" is the shop located in Texas. Just throwing that out there!
Glad someone spilt it!! Anyone have any unregistered C4?
LOL, taking the mafia name as well as their shitty business practices.
How do you know that?
There selling 750 dollar cup holders can't imagine them ripping anyone off
@@stevenakn1 wow tf bro they really are trying to sell cup holders for $750!?!!? Thats fckin insane!!
$1300 OIL CHANGE!!!! $15,000 LIFT KIT!!!!!! Ryan I have to give you credit for filming this with a straight face and not torching the place charging this customer $40,000 for bullshit
@Smokem 777 I guess I haven't owned my hummer long enough to know about them. I also do basic maintenance on my own rather than pay someone $1,300 for something as simple as an oil change
was looking at that Oil Change price and was like thats not a bad price per qt of Amsoil, a bit high but not rip off prices, then I saw the $851.20 for labor, WTF MATE really? for an Oil Change and Transmission fluid change!?!?!
They pretty much went like. That,s not standard, we need to work on that.
If you dont accept the repairs, you will get a F YOU fee.
That was a little misleading, $1300 looked to be an oil change, power steering flush and transmission flush. They don't itemize their labor though so it's just lumped up and very hard for customers to know what's going on.
@@nicolashoyt5341 Looking back at it at 6:27 I do see that for 12 quarts of 15w-40 full synthetic oil is actually $141.60 and below that is synthetic transmission fluid for $163.20. What's not misleading and absolutely freaking outrageous is the $851.20 for labor
Honestly you should take legal action against that company for slandering your business and saying all that false evidence!!!
Do you realize the revenue your shop lost, their are those that take all read as fact then spread it as “you know I heard” it was intentional and needs a quark in it, automotive repair is bad enough as it is due to hemorrhoids like them, but to out en out lie like that about you putting fear in clients, while postering for the real theft is disputable, it’s like gun fighting an unarmed man.
You should definitely inform people of the shop so people don’t go there.
That isn’t wise for this shop due to the other shop can then sue them for defamation. Even tho it’s factual
@Jimmy Johns1210 Mod Mafia was the jack*ss shop that tried to fraud this poor person. It has been discovered. MM is garbage.
@@maddog7771 you can sue anyone for anything, dosnt mean you will win.
That's probably the dumbest statement that I've ever heard. You have no fucking clue what you are talking about SMH!!!!!
@Jimmy Johns1210 You must be the tech or something that scrounged up this garbage invoice.
This shows the relationship between predator and the client. My clients call me directly if there is something questionable and like predator, I will go over and above if it was something I missed. Well done
I know nothing about this shop or this guy's business, but I wish they were around me I'd trust them 100%
Fact
These guys seem legit but every single mechanic in the world makes mistakes and if any mechanic tells you that they don’t well you’ll learn a hard lesson in life chief
@@scottysecretlyloveschrysle1417 he clearly admits that they make mistakes but here we have another shop claiming they lied and did sub par work and that is slander in any sense if it’s not true and from what I see it was not true.
I’m not even really a hummer fan, I live this dude not taking shit ever. And knowing his stuff
I bet if he paid for the $40k repair they’d have fixed the power steering and sent him on his way..
Give them more credit than that, they probably would have put $500 worth of spacers on the body as well for their "$15000 lift kit". 😂🤣😂
You bet wrong
Mod Mafia. SMH. Unfortunately this kind of behavior is not just exclusive to the Hummer community. It happens in the Toyota off-road/overland community as well. Especially when it comes to lifts and parts. It’s really frustrating.
Damn, I work at a shop and the most we do is a FREE inspection when we're doing a oil change... We then let the customer know of there's another problem with the vehicle and let them decide if they would like to fix it.
This shit right here is why I do my own work, that and holy shit they was trying to strait up rob that guy.
i am right there with you, i have had to many shops try shit like this on family members. I am not saying i know everything. But When you don't even know the basics of troubleshooting a minor electrical issue and lie to me for two weeks straight you dug your own grave.
I agree
Mom's car has rough acceleration. Let me grab my scanner! Oh it's a gross leak on the emissions, check the gas cap new seal and bingo evap canister the rubber tubing is cracking.
If a shop could do this straight forward they would have my business. I don't know how everyone else deals with bad mechanics and bad shops.
When a technician opens a hood on one of my cars I work on they compliment the owner.
Rob him Hell! They were tryin to go in Dry on the poor guy. :(
Some of us really can't do that for ourselves anymore. We have to be able to rely on the few good shops.
I've never heard of you. I have 1992 HMMWV and do all my own work on it. I learned a lot from this video. I learned a couple technical things but most of all I learned that you are a company I wouldn't hesitate to work with if the need arose. Thanks for putting out the video, it clearly shows who is the scammer.
My God I believe that you should let everyone know who this Garage is. Protect the rest of the public Boss.
Our legal council has advised against it due to coming legal actions. Majority of consumers and people in the industry know exactly who it is. Plus it’s not hard to find the answer. The comments say it all.
@behonestwitheverythingandeveryone Mod mafia
Fuck Mod Mafia. Bunch of illiterate children trying to scam people rather than learning how to perform a job correctly and earn repeat customers.
@Predator Inc You can't get in trouble for telling the truth. If you have HIV in a court of LAW I can staple that fact on every telephone pole in America.... As long as it's factual you don't have to hide ANYTHING an no it's not defamation or Slander. Do yourself a favor, fire your legal team and hire someone else because this is grade school stuff here he or she's going to cost you a fortune in the future.
@@enhancedphysique6452 where did you go to law school? Genuinely asking.
That other shop sounds like the type to charge $40,000 and not do the work.
At some point near the end it felt like I'm watching one of angry Louis Rossmann's videos.
Edit: that's not a bad thing, just as in this case, Louis is pissed rightfully.
I’m a mechanic ...I think you answered all the questions perfectly right on point.Unfortunately we have people out there that want to charge the customer astronomical prices for no reason.They won’t last long
I got raised in hawaii under my mechanic family ..... we charged $25.00 per hour and only what we pay for each part and how much we pay for oil. Nothing more.
@@joshuaericilac definitely reasonable all depends on what kind of vehicle have a great day👍
I was a mechanic in the Army for 6 years, and I can't believe that the person who inspected that Hummer conversion was a mechanic in the military. In our MOS school we are taught that military vehicles do not have the safety requirements of civilian vehicles. That means no crumple zones(in reality the entire HMMWV is the crumple zone, side impact protection, nothing. Just be glad it has doors, a rood, seats, and a windshield, because I have driven plenty that did not. With that said, like you stated there is a lot that has to be modified to meet safety requirements for on road use. I would put acorn nuts on the floor protector bolts though to keep the threads from getting all buggered up, also looks nice. I also have never seen that lock nut design for the hubs, is that a Hummer modification requirement because in the military we use a spider washer.
Finally someone that knows something. Preech it brother.
yes, those are the DOT approved nut and spindle assembly, used in the H1. The HMMWV setup is for ease of change in the field, as is most stuff with the army.
even blurred out the logo is clearly mod mafia logo 😂
Looks like that shop was trying to steal your customer with the scare tactic.
Good thing you guys have a TH-cam channel. Documenting your work through video seems to be a must these days. Good thing Sanderson recorded the work with the ball joints. I know it sucks that you have to do a video like this to protect your brand, but anyone that is into Hummers, H1's and HMMWV's knows the work you guys do. Predator is definitely a leader in this space.
as a mechanic myself, I freaking hate shops like that. Give us good mechanics a bad name.
Sounds like this trick is being used to get them to dump the vehicle with them.
Bingooooo
The shop I worked at had a news crew bring in a car to be checked for a 2000 mile trip. We did not know it but they had hidden cameras in , on and under the car. They took it to a shop and had them go over it before bringing it to our shop as well as 3 other shops. I went over the car and told them it needed 2 rear tires and would recommend a tune up because the wires were original and were arching to manifold when sprayed with water (the other shop said the same thing) and I also said they needed a new 3rd brake light bulb and 1 of the license plate lights were out both of which the other shop missed. One of the other shops squirted oil on the struts and told them it needed $700 in repairs. Same thing, just on a bigger scale.
It's not "tactics" it's a crime called "theft by services." Mkst people don't know that this is actually a prosacutable crime.
The amount of shops and mechanics who don’t know hummers is comical. I worked for the government as a contractor and they spent a good chunk of money teaching me how to work on HUMMVEES. After the contract ended GM spent more money to teach me how to service the H1s. They are really odd if you don’t know what your looking at. Sounds like this shop was gambling that this guy was going to just pay them cause he was dumb. Shows them what this owner knew
If he didn't sign off on the estimate for the 2000 dollar diagnostic, he didn't have to pay it at all. He could call the police, and get his car out immediately. I've always been a fan of your products, and hope to one day buy one...but this...this is transparency at an epic level.
I got burned by VW yrs ago, took my Rabbit in for a new fuse box, it was $100 for the part and $200 for labour, got the call to pick it up 2 days later and the bill was $1300. Told them they could keep the car and walked out, came back at 10pm that night and stripped the cars interior, rims and GTI trim I had put on and sold it to my buddy who had the same car. Cops came and tried to arrest me but I produced my ownership and license and they asked me to just leave the property, a few weeks later they sent a guy by with a mechanics bill and a lien, since then I have learned you have to write on the bill that they can only repair what is signed for in writting no phone confirmations. Yrs later Chrysler dealer tried to rip me off on my Jeep XJ for a $1300 for the ABS pump that supposedly had failed, I told him to look at the bill regarding the pump, did I sign for it? lol, as I waited for them to bring me my truck they scratched my new hood with a floor broom and it was destroyed, they said it came in like that and refused to admit they did it, funny thing is I just got the Jeep back from a front end accident a week before and the hood and paint were literally just done and new. They laughed me out of the dealership, I told them I was going to smash their Prowler in the showroom one night but never did, and fun fact, my ABS was on a recall and was 100% covered by Chrysler so they tried to scam me for fun, I will never buy a Chrysler/Dodge/Jeep or Fiat from those crooks. Picked up a Hummer H2 from Cali a few yrs ago and haven't looked back, way better than all 7 Jeeps I owned over the years except maybe my 89 Grand Wagoneer 5.9l which was just as capable but not as pretty.
@ahmed fahmy -this is all dependent on which state or country you live in. Where I manage a shop at all you have to do is verbally inform the customer of and inspection and by them leaving their vehicle it is consent for that inspection. They don’t have to sign or anything. Just have to verbally tell them. With the police here it is a civil matter and police will not even show up. So I would make sure your check your states or countries laws on auto repairs.
@@YanMcCloud wrong. I’ve actually called the police on a shop that was trying to extort money from me in a similar fashion. I escalated the situation to the point of possibility of physical altercation, 911 dispatcher heard the cursing and shouting and sent 2 police cars in minutes. I demanded my property back, and cops sided with me even though they knew the shop owner.
@@bestman7776 again this is all state dependent like both my comments on this thread have stated. So if you are not in the same state as this supposed shop or same state as me with the other comment I made on this thread then you sir are wrong in the instance of where this took place. I can also tell you as a shop manager where I am from I have had one customer call on me and they were flat out told it was a civil matter and they would not get involved unless the peace was being broken. In your case the yelling and shouting. So make sure to note these laws are different state to state and country to country.
Would have been easy for me, I've had other companies try that with me, "sorry, I didn't ask for inspection so your not getting paid, guess I'll call the cops"
I'd love to hear some shop tell me I need 40,000 in repairs after taking it in for a steering pump,I'd probably end up assaulting the manager
Its a hummer i’d drive it right through the bay door have that one for lunch
Exactly why I love Predator. No BS and 💯 transparent
Extortion is a crime! Always get multiple quotes, and if it sounds like BS then it is BS! This is why you should know the basics about your Vehicle mechanics and basic electronics so they can not scam you !
Yes! We always recommend for people to get a second quote from another shop. Especially if they feel something is off and just doesn’t feel right.
Why was a complete inspection done when he simply went there for the power steering pump issue??
As a shop owner myself I hate to see people in my industry scaring customers into unnecessary services, then keep the vehicle for a week+ and do absolutely nothing and charge for the services not provided.
It's good to see a shop with integrity and morals. My business motto has always been quality over quantity. Stick to this and your customers will stick with you, 1 and done customers don't build a business. Business growth comes from repeat customers.
WOW! Unfortunately I know what you mean. My dad was a Dodge Mechanic In Boise Idaho in the late 70's. He quit because they were ripping off their dealer customers on repairs, like installing rebuilt engines and components and charging them FULL NEW part prices. After my dad refused to comply with the shop supervisor they gave him ALL the jobs that in the Dodge Time book per job that they knew took longer than stated. When he refused to claim a used distributor in customers car and list it as new, they changed it on the invoice as NEW, my dad packed up his tools and quit, then reported them. The shop went out of business and was bought out. We were a very poor family and it was our only income. I was very proud of my dad that day, even knowing it would severely effect our food and things we needed. He found another job and I went to work in a restaurant to help pay the bills. I never forgot that and have lived my life honestly ever since. Integrity can't be bought, it must be earned through actions. I hope you sue the pants off that company who tarnished your reputation to let other companies know you can't lie like that. Best Wishes & Blessings. Keith Noneya
Your father has integrity and we would have been honored to have him as part of our team. Great story and am sure a great role model to you. Thanks for sharing!
Great video guys. Way to address this case in a professional manner but also make it educational to the rest of the community. 👍
That shop is bad mouthing your work and reputation just because the customer didnt go to them in the first place.
@Jimmy Johns1210 ?
@Jimmy Johns1210 You a employee right?
M.M. is obviously scamming the customer, times are hard and there without a doubt suffering. Skimmed there videos they have very few followers for a reason. They claim the same garbage in almost every video they make about every Hummer.
@@mynock250 The last thing any customer H1 owner would worry about or is concerned about is $$$$$$. That said, you have to look at the rest of customers who never complained. Anything man made or built will never be perfect. They do great work despite the fact I sold my H1 yrs back. Peace
I just had a shop do this type of thing to me! I've got a ram 1500 with long travel suspension, prerunner bumper, flares, headers, exhaust, and tires. I recently slipped off a road in a blizzard into a farmers ditch and it cocked the front tires back. The side airbags went off, the front fenders were cracked, but the rest of the truck didn't even have a scratch and it ran fine. A towing company came over and said they would need 2 trucks to get it out, but he told me he'd do it for the rate of 1 truck if I went with them, so I did. Of course they charge me double the cost for 2 trucks. Then the shop owners told me it was useless and I should just total the truck out... I only noticed the lca mounts were slightly bent. They rote a quote for over 20,000 of repairs including new bumper, steering wheel, two new frame rails, lighbar, etc. All which were in perfect condition. They said they wouldn't touch it m, and refused to fix it. They also contacted my insurance and sent them this quote without my knowledge and tried to make plans for the truck without my knowledge... I then planned for it to be sent to another shop. I asked the owner explicitly how much the storage fee would be after a 2 weeks and he said, don't worry about it I won't charge u since you are in and out. I thanked him. A week later I return to get the truck and they wanted to charge me for 2.5 weeks of storage fees 50$ a day (900$). I brought it to another shop and they said its an easy fix with no serious frame damage at all, and I'll get out on the road right away. Not that bad of damage. Some shops out there are just out to scam you like crazy be careful
This is why Mechanics get bad names and everybody just watch TH-cam to learn how to fix things themselves
Great video guys. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
As a Red Seal Mechanic myself I hate seeing guys trying to "steal" from a customer, if you do good work your people will be back no matter what
The hardest thing or the worst thing about selling vehicles to customers is that you are going to come across a very few that you cant please. No matter what you do including bending upside down and backwards there is nothing absolutely you can do to please them. Thank God they are only less than 1% of customers. Adding to it, an out of state customer will drive back home take the vehicle to their shop and what happens, almost every repair shop will take the opportunity to not only bad mouth you but they will try to destroy your build. Then these customers will feel like they were scammed by you. I had a customer who bough a vehicle then drove it for 2.5 months then took it to do maintenance and then the shop did what this shop did to you. Story short you will never make everyone happy no matter what.
I am a HD mech and its sad to see people doing this its way to common and they should be taken out of business. Predictors i admire your ability and pride in your company to stand behind your work and put this video out. The people that watch your show know your wouldnt do that, there is way to much pride in what you do. Keep doing what you do, it gives me hope for our industry that there are still good people out there.
Its Mad Mafia i just watched a video where he talked about the latches and joints and such on their youtube page. You can definitely tell the mad mafia guy is deleting the posts on the video since it has 4 comments in 2 months yet this one has over 200 in 2 weeks. SO either they have No following or deleting posts calling them out.
Lol i just posted this videos link on all their uploaded vids.
How does this even happen?! Jesus how can that shop still be in service 😳
Any automotive tech with half a brain would see that the Duramax air filter has significantly more surface area for filtering versus the stock 6.5 TD filter.
And the fact that it literally says "ACDelco" on the side of the filter and is the EXACT diameter of the factory housing!
MM inspection fee's are supposed to be free...
Never imagined that i will see that kind of bs in the us ... 40k for repairs lol
The US is the only place that you will see that kind of bullshit...
40k is a new damn car lol or a down payment on a house
This has Mod Mafia all over it lol.
It is them. I compared the prices on their 3” lift to the one on this receipt and they match up exactly. Shady people
@@notsojoerogan I mean they have MAFIA in their name
I posted this video to their Facebook asking if they knew who he was talking about in this video.
I just went over everything on their website with the video. Bruh it is totally them.
@@wihamaki lmao omg what was their response?!
I can’t find anything on mod mafia’s Facebook or TH-cam. They must have taken it down.
look down their posts, its is at the start of the year and they rekon a vid is coming and are standing by what they said.
its still there lol. Jan 22
The name says it all, only gangsters use gangster names
Surly there is legal action that’s being taken after this?
Can you believe they won't even dropped the name of the scumbags that are trying to scam people in the community?
@@CHARLIE1955able I would bet they have been advised to take legal action before name dropping
@@CHARLIE1955able You know they can't drop the other shops name unless they want to get sued, right????
@@CHARLIE1955able someone commented the shop is Mod Mafia. not sure, but its been said above ^
There's a channel named South Main Auto Repair LLC and he's made a video called "Going to this Shop Could Kill You"
(I'll try to link it: th-cam.com/video/HEcjo5tpYGI/w-d-xo.html )
In the video, he has a customer's car that has come in for him to diagnose a Check Engine light. The car had recently been at a different shop for its inspection and PASSED, other than the emissions issues.
When he looks under the car, the brakes are in terrible condition. But halfway through the video, he says it's against the law for him to file a complaint against the other shop. Only the customer can file a complaint. But the customer just wants to pass the state-required inspection, not pay for tons of (necessary) repairs.
I can't believe the customer paid 2,000$ for an inspection he didn't request. Fuck that. Should have crowd funded some money and taken it to court.
I am really impressed that you remained calm and articulate through the entire list. I would have lost my mind if a (non)competitor did that to me!
I was a service advisor for over 10 years and I don’t know anything about your shop, I don’t own a hummer and really never plan to not that I wouldn’t love to have one. However I watched this entire video because after everything I have seen and experienced via how shops run and use these scare tactics you are right on point and are very forth coming. I recommend that anyone who is looking for a shop for a hummer should truly appreciate your honesty and give your shops the business.
I think you did a very good job handling that situation. It’s always tough as a shop owner to know when you need to actively defend yourself. Often, that makes you look worse, but I agree that this situation absolutely needed to be addressed.
In our shop, I’ve seen some questionable vehicles come through the door. Vehicles that I was absolutely certain another shop had taken advantage of this customer. I almost never throw another shop under the bus, because at the end of the day, I really don’t have any idea what the situation was at the time.
In reality, I don’t really need to sew seeds of doubt to my customer, they already had their doubts or they would not have brought the vehicle to me for a second opinion in the first place.
I suspect that if this shop wasn’t so vicious about going after you, posting these things online, and insisting to your customer that you were doing horrible things, there’s a good chance your customer would have simply gone along with what they were recommending.
Their attempt to build themselves up by tearing you down clearly didn’t make sense to your customer because of your character, transparency, and the way you conduct yourselves.
My opinion of the situation as a fellow shop owner, is a combination of monstrous ego by the owner who blasted you online, combined with technician and service advisor lack of knowledge.
I’m glad your customer decided to bring this back to you. We don’t always get that opportunity, so kudos to that owner for trusting you and seeking you out for a second opinion.
"Unfortunately there's unscrupulous people out there." I think that kind of sums up the auto repair business. Once had a service advisor tell me I needed new tires due to wear. (They were almost new with 5k miles on them). His response? "Oh, it must be the tech's tread depth gauge is out of calibration." Because the tech was blind too? And the aggregation of hours for work that can be done concurrently just boggles my mind. "Sir, that's 24 hours labor plus $2,000 in parts and you'll pay 5% for shop supplies even though we'll only actually use about $1.50 worth. You can pick it up at 4:00 PM today" Um, what now?
Why are there prices so crazy?? No one would pay that, I’ve been in the business for 20 years now, and none of my customers would pay that but like you guys we are honest and transparent
It should be law that all shops have a glass wall so customers can see what mechanics are doing, along with microphones so they can hear what is being said. It’s shady asf as soon as your car “disappears” into the bays
Ted P And how many customers know fuck all about their own vehicles? Like almost none?
I won an Iron Planet / Gov Plant auction for a 1988 M998 military surplus Humvee with the upgraded 6.5L engine for 8100 bucks.
It's in perfect condition.
100% complete.
Got titled and tagged so I drive it to work every now and then.
I've dragged some huge logs across the farm with it, and I'm always the guy in the local area that gets called to pull out people that get stuck out in muddy farm fields.
I did upgrade it to the 10K axles, the newer style fuel sending unit with floor access panel to the fuel tank, and K&N makes a direct air filter replacement for that huge stock paper filter.
Everything else is stock, all original military, and works great!
Pain in the ass to crank with weak batteries so those recently got upgraded too.
Edit: I'm a Duramax guy too. LBZ and LMM, both deleted and EFI Live tuned.
The part about the computer from the fraud shop was a total bs claim, like everything else they tried to claim.
You can buy blank stand alone computers for Duramax engines and for the Allison transmission. I've done them. Makes EFI Live tuning much easier to play with whenever you want to.
Even the factory computer doesn't get bricked. All you need is the VIN read from it and get a VIN license from EFI Live and boom it's unlocked and you can do whatever you want with it.
Most people don’t understand what it takes or what a Legitimate shop has to go threw to give them quality service. And still make a profit to keep the doors open
This video is pointless without a business name to avoid going to.
They don't want to get caught up in a lawsuit
right?
we need to know
The company put out there own video
And yes there is the defamation issue
Is the truth a defence against defamation
Its funny that they said it looked like the oil had never been changed since the oil turns black as soon as you start the truck
AMEN I have CUCV with the 6.2 diesel and it turns black within a day or so
I have 2 mercedes diesel and it only takes a minute for the oil to turn black, black oil on a diesel does not mean dirty oil, the only way to know if oil is good is with a lab test.
Old mechanic taught me place the oil in your fingers and snap them, if it has viscosity your fingers won't stick,
I had a warranty repair on my Ford Fusion at the dealer. About 2 years later I was changing my brakes and found the spindle nut from the offending axle lodged in the hubcap, completely off of the spindle. It hadn't been properly staked.
My family ran a car repair shop. And hearing this makes me sick we would have customers who would go to other shops get a quote high dollar and it turn out that it would be a $50 part that we could take care of within our alloted 1hr inspection time so no extra labor would be charged. And like he said you u price labor a certain way to not have over lapping labor example. They come in for brakes and we find the rotors are out of specs well it calls for example 1.5 hrs to replace rotors then the labor guide would call for 1 hr to do the brake pads. We only charged 1.5 hrs because you have to remove the brake calipers to change the rotors at that point you just have to collapse the calipers and slap new pads in. Also our shop supplies were 7% of labor cost not to exceed $25 and there were time that if we charged what it actually was per the math shop supplies would be $75 (for exp.) but we never went past 25 because you honestly sometimes don't use shop supplies on all jobs. That other garage saw a person who owed a H1 hummer and figured they would make a payday. Still makes me sick to this day.
That's why you should know your vehicle. I always go in with parts to the mechanic to have them change it. I actually go to specific mechanics that I know wont rip me off. Now since H1's are specialized and mods were done by Predator. I would call you guys "IF" I can't figure it out myself. I learned a lot just watching your vids. When I'm ready to come down I'll know what I want upgraded and I know you guys I'll have suggestions that I'll consider. It'll be fun. Maybe you guys will let me watch some of the process so I can understand the truck?
Jason love the new blog intro’s this year. The one for this video was perfect. Keep up the good work. 👍👍
Last years intro’s of you doing donuts was getting old. On another note, it would be great if you guys got a hold of one of their trucks they built. It would be a priceless video. Just sayin. 🤷🏻♂️
Story time: the good one
i did my own research when i took my classics bronco transmission to get it rebuilt, then it took like 2 weeks, i called and asked why its taking so long, and the owner of the shop told me to come over, so i did and he explained the transmission was replaced from a 6 cylinder ford, which i believe cause the under side of some parts when i took it off where covered in RTV ! and he showed me everything in my transmission and i did my research as well and we had a great educated talk about what would he replace, what would be good for my truck and why the price was high, and he even took out 12 year old books for these transmissions and educated me on things i had no idea about, at the end of the day,KNOW YOUR SHOP!!
Dont take it to a random shop, know whats wrong with the car or truck, if you cant do it, how is the process and the price of the part is, so nothing like this happens! if you know 0 about cars, take it to the dealer, dont take it to a random shop you know nothing about
this is the worse possible way i seen some one scam a customer, for things that are 100% perfect just to sell them something cheaper with a 10k labor cost..just wow
great vid man 10/10
I will be bringing my H2 to predator after seeing this video. The very educated on hummers and passionate owner of predator inc, defends his business in such a honest and thorough fashion. The haters just got you more business!! I went through the same thing that my hummer had to sit for awhile because of the financial blow the scam shop put me through!!! This video hit home.
sue the shop that says the vehicle is dangerous
You guys at Predator Inc are 1st Class!
Always boggles my mind how someone running any sort of company thinks ripping people off will be sustainable... disgusting!
Really good idea to address this, hopefully that can help other avoid traps like these, not just around Hummer's, just any vehicle! Keep up the good work!!
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to put this out. Whenever I have any work done I always ask to see the parts or have them send me pictures of what it is they want to replace for evidentiary documentation purposes. Oftentimes, a shop will hesitate to send you photographs if the repair is not 100% legit. The fact that you guys would put together a complete detailed video of your work underscores the integrity of your operation. Bravo!
I never charge for ECM check light down load and always quote repair and hold it at quote
Proud of you for your hard work and willingness to stand behind your work and crew. Good job
I am so glad that you took the time to show proof of your skills and work. Companies and shop like you are not around where I live. Keep up the honesty And the great work
I grew up working in the automotive industry started at 10 yrs old mom and dad parts stores ETC been around since late 60,s .
I recently got scammed on F250 for about 19k through a local shop for engine repairs and now I have it my self found it engine builder shipped a new painted damaged engine with a large hole in the block .. this has become a costly experience because of a the trend of scam shops currently going on , back in my younger days the old timer mechanics in the garages I delivered parts to on my bicycle was very honest and spent hours learning from them about the business , now that all seems to be long gone though and now it's these scam shops ripping people off left and right , I'm out 19k and pulling money out my azzzz some how to fix this mess .. it's heart breaking that I got ripped off by 3 different mechanic's that I thought I could trust is it really this bad ?
I've personally been to your shop and was fortunate to get a tour from Sanderson. Extremely professional all round. Keep up the good work 👌
Did Mod Mafia do this? You should inspect one of their builds.
That would be awesome
in no way comparable to this 40k robbery, but my local mechanic tried to con nearly 5k for a new turbo, intercooler and hoses when the only issue was a single hose with a tear in it. 5 mins under the hood and done.
Yup. Thats the whole reason why I learned to work on my own vehicles. Mostly so I could teach myself basic mechanics, but also because mechanics are vutlures. The one time i needed someone to service my truck, I took it to PSE in Houston and they quoted me $2,700 just to tear into my 2006 f250, then tack on whatever charges it may “need” in repairs. Alternatively they quoted me $13k for a new bulletproofed 6.0 engine with warranty.
Had a ford tech who does work on the side come and replace my fuel pump, fan clutch, and glow plugs. Mf replaced the pump and clutch, but got air in my lines and rage quit halfway through the glowplugs. I had to call off from work for a week to do it myself (i also needed to replace the filthy radiator).
And as it turns out, all that was wrong with it id a bad radiator and bad injectors. All that trouble for two things. I hate mechanics with a passion.
After they tried to get me for 40k I woulda drove that beast straight through their shop and destroyed everything
Lol no you wouldn't
@@potatofriends262 sure I would....
Crime Stoppers. Preventing Crime by Committing Crime.
@@sarges1712 Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.
@@kushkiller7108 nah, you wouldn't.
I had that happen at ok tire they try to tell me that there over 800 dollars all it needed was a ball joint
I'M SORRY, WHAT?? Did you say that they wanted 1300 dollars to CHANGE THE OIL??? WOW. I'm a woman that almost got taken for an $800 ring job on an old civic that was burning oil. It was just pure luck that I needed to reclaim the car to use before they had done the work and I ended up taking it to a family owned place called "The Bug Shop" where the very nice gentleman told me I had a leaky valve which would cost me all of $14 whole dollars. Didn't even charge me for the labor to put it in. I was grateful beyond belief because I would not have known how bad the other place was ripping me off on that , but even I would have told the shop to pound sand if they tried to charge me quadruple digits for a simple oil change or go to frickin Jiffy Lube! If I would have seen a number like that on paper I would have been asking what currency they were expecting ... perhaps Japanese Yen!
I wish there were shops devoted to offroad Xterra's with the same passion and honesty you guys do with Hummers.
If they made the allegations publicly, why are you trying to keep their name out of it?? Also if they are lying you should sue them because if people doubt the safety of your work, its hard to recover from that. I'm a big fan of your work and would hate to see your business affected.
Oh they put it on their FB for the world to see. They left out the name but blasted the city. After reading a few of their posts. You definitely feel like you’re in high school with the pettiness
You need to put the name of the shop out there because they are ripping our families off.
If I were him I would say give me the estimate and the fact that I can't drive it without the work. Then I would take the keys, and head to my lawyers office. That shop would be broke and out of business. The world will know of their treachery and the consequences of it.
It’s called give me back my damn vehicle and I’ll fix it myself. I’ve done power steering pumps on hummers in the military. And it’s not very hard
Wow. This is the pinnacle of sleazy shop tactics. I get that Hummers are pricey rigs; portal gears, on board air for the CTIS system, plus all the other stuff for the Dmax conversion...but a $40k bill? They saw a potential cash cow and tried to screw the poor guy. Really glad he saw through it, this was insane.
You absolutely should put their name in there. You’re not slandering them, you’re telling the true about them.
I agree fore warn the public, if it gets out of hand then let a judge/jury decide 1's fate.
If someone told me my wheels were about to fall off I'd say "Show me" "Prove it to me". Never, ever take someones word for this stuff.
Proving yet again that you're better off to do your own work. Everybody knows about the "wheels fallin off" problem with these things, sounds like the one trick mob is trying to upsell more retention kits.....(btw, do those have DOT approval🤔?)
Would that Duramax air filter work well on a stock 6.5 turbo H1?
The stock 6.5 is specifically tuned for that airflow with the OEM filter vs a LMM/LBZ Duramax which have different air/fuel ratios.
This is just like the underground bunker manufacturers, one trash mouthing another, as a retired service manager of over 40 years in the biusness , the one doing the trash mouthing is the one to steer away from, shops that are confident in thier work don't feel the need to minimize compitition, they let their quality work speak and have respect for others in the biusness. The best way to tell if a shop has something to hide, us to see how fast they bad mouth other shops , and MM is a prime example of who not to trust
They saw a nice vehicle and thought "awww yeaaah".
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If you own a HUMMER please don’t be lazy bring to PREDATOR !!!!!!!!!!!!
i just want to say that it was pretty cool how you guys went through everything and took the high road to not trash the other shops name. shows a lot of integrality
I don't know much about Hummers or Humvees but I have always loved them. Honestly, if I could afford it, I'd buy one from you any day. Your trucks look so cool! I have a question though, not about you or your business, but about finding off-road or durable vehicles. Do you have any ideas as to how to get one that's reliable and not too expensive? My fiancee and I live in Michigan and we don't have a vehicle at all. We just lost our only vehicle, a 97' Chevy Astro LT, and currently are left broke and without anything to drive. Sadly we had just got the Astro for $500 and spent close to a grand (maybe even $1.5k) in total, then the engine and transmission both blew on a hill. We currently can't get a loan or financial aid of any kind due to lack of income and credit score (I have all the income, but my fiancee has the credit and they won't accept my income as hers too.) If there's anything you could do to help, or any advice, I'd be very appreciative. Thanks to any and all comments I may get. Hope nobody gets upset about me commenting about this topic. Just running out of ideas and looking for help.
Unfortunately many car dealerships do this!! I know a guy that had an issue with his car they "inspected the car and use fear tactics 10K was the projected bill. all because he had a popped fuse.
Depends why the fuse popped. They don't pop for no reason.
Hate that you have to do these kind of videos. I personally would have blasted the other company BUT I could see you are a better man than me. Glad the owner of the Hummer didn't get burned.
How can any company legally charge for a service if the work (inspection) was not ordered? (Can a company come to my house, clean the driveway, send me a bill, and expect to be paid with out a service request?)