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- Man City have a NEW formation. But what are its strengths, weaknesses, and how is it getting the most out of City's players?
In this post-match analysis, I focus on the 2-0 game against Everton, and how this tactical tweak ultimately won Man City the game.
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Pep got sick of 5 Back low blocks so just flipped the 5-3-2 and stood on business
This is football heritage😅
5- 3-2 v 2-3-5. Man to man in every phase.😅
back 5 vs front 5 it is a fair fight 😁
I've realized this is what he is doing this season. Selling out the defense to beat low blocks and will take chances with the counter
This is why i'd prefer Grealish over Doku with this formation, Grealish is strong with the ball and not taking many risk
Grealish struggles to get past defenders. If you watch Doku, he is beginning to pick out his chances to get past defenders instead of going every time. This helps city keep the ball more and also keeps defenders guessing, as he can pretty much get past them whenever he wants.
Grealish got bumped off the ball as soon as he came on and gave Everton a massive chance.
Grealish diving is too risky for me
I personally still have Grealish in my preferred starting XI also. Love Doku don’t get me wrong, but I really value what Grealish brings to this side
I love doku at certain points in the game but all he does is dribble past a few defenders(which is what a typical winger would do but most of the time but their is barely any end product) and get a corner most of the times, barely any crosses and few chances created which actually matter. Grealish suits pep's style of play way more with the backpasses and breaking down defences via a non flashy flow of play. Think doku serves as more of a sub coming on after 60 mins. But that's just my opinion. @@lukeallen5484
Grealish is absolutely important. He can run for 90 minutes plus extra 7-8 minutes. He not only attacks but he helps the in many aspects. He defends, holds the ball when needed, he helps the team to control the game if its needed, plus he is aggressive. He gets into the minds of opponents and earns fouls, yellow cards.
Grealish just understands peps game, and i will always prefer grealish this season over doku.
yeah the issue City have currently is that all our RW are some of our best midfielders (Foden and Bernardo) and they are needed at the middle especiallly with KDB being rotated because of his injury and Gundogan leaving. Doku was supposed to be a RW but he weirdly look better on the left which means we have excess LW in Grealish while Bobb is too young
I think that’s a good thing. Being able to rotate and play different positions. Pep said bobb can play 5 positions. Foden and silva can also play in different positions. Savio coming next summer will make even more wingers but he can also play other positions.
And there is a new singing to arrive in 2025
He played this same formation at Bayern with Alaba and Lahm as inverted fullbacks and met the same transition problems, Ange has played it this season and Spurs have been vulnerable to high quality transition chances too.
Yeah I remember in 16/17 he tried to play both Sagna and Clichy as inverted fullbacks too 😂 that quickly died a death, but this one actually seems to have some usage
nobbins analysis vids for the win! doing a watchalong tomorrow?
Of course mate!
I want one more cdm so rodri can be free to go up and attack and not worry sbout getting hit with counter 😅
Kovacic should play more in my opinion. He really helps Rodri
Can you imagine if we had frimpong in the walker role 😍
Frimpong cant defend to save his life. It's just better to have a rw which we will since we've signed savio
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Hmmmm personally I’m not sure I want this wingback system on a long term basis, but if we persist, that would be a fun shout
@@shaquillesmith4414 Vini Jr just skinned him in last game
Pep is the best honestly, Akanji started player that position from the 3rd match this season. Proving once again that if you are ready to learn under Pep, he can replace anybody.
I really appreciate the quality of this video.
I haven't seen anybody truly break down a system the way you have here, I look forward to more from your channel.
I think it would be amazing if you could analyze leverkusen too.
Thank you!
This 2-3-4-1 could work really well with a 3 of Stones, Kimmich and Rodri
Kimmich would be a TASTY signing man
@@Nobbins that what I was saying we need one more cdm
there's a young lad named Maximo perrone at Las palmas on loan from man city, giving him a look sometime and you'll be seriously impressed
@@bonkhesihlongonyane1012 He is probably getting sold like Palmer, he was in the squad for ages and never broke through.
what about barella? why is he so overlooked when he is so good, i think he would fit in this city team perfectly
Outstanding analysis Nobbins! 👍👍👍
Outstanding king ! Just subbed ! Keep going 🔥🙏🏽
The big test will be that anfield game. Pep really needs get his formation and team lline up right
i love how you explain things. a lot of thought put into this. well done
Im just concerned about our defense, we can't keep clean sheets😢
If we win games but still concede I don't think it's a huge deal
hi wow great analysis! i really like the drawings on tactical board and the video snapshots. may i know what software/tool you use for the analysis board that you drag and drop with your hands? really cool gary neville match of the day stuff :D
amazing video, hope we can bring a RW in the future so foden can plays in the middle
Thank you Nicolas! If we do persist with this shape it would make sense to be linked with some more attacking fullbacks, I’m just not sure if Pep WANTS to use his defenders like this, or if he just feels he has to
We already did. Savio is on his way. And people seem to have forgot about Kayky. He playing really well on loan at Bahia before he sustained a heavy injury that took him out for 9-10 months. He should be back by April.
Subscribed!!! Because you (also) go to mancity games and Shout a lot💙💙💙
This is why last year’s 3-2-5 was deadly in the latter part of the season bcz the midfield box of 4 was constantly overloading the opponent’s midfield and half spaces while the back 3 in dias ake and akanji took care of transitions and defensive threats . Also , stones’ ability on the ball does make him a better option to play in the midfield with rodri rather than walker . However sadly this year we lost gundo who had quite an impact with his ball carrying ability and runs off the ball . Hes the type of midfielder who knows when to hold the ball and when to accelerate tempo and him and kdb were deadly but now and kdb can do it and so we need another midfielder like gundo ( very hard to find sadly )
I am Belgian so I might be biased but Vermeeren who just went to Atletico Madrid seems like he could become a gundo type player. I have watched him play a lot but the game that completely convinced me he is a gundo type was when Antwerp actually played him in a 10 position with two 6s behind him. Before he normally had to play in the double pivot role. But because of some injuries and other players returning he was finally put in the 10 position. He was still a box to box midfielder but actually effectively arriving in the box because he was popping up in the half spaces. He is defensively always so solid and in that Barca game he was finally given the liberty to actually arrive in the box. He was simply the best player on the pitch. He is very young but also humble and intelligent with good people around him. City should definitely keep him on the radar another couple years and he could be the real deal I think
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Definitely implementing this in my life
Great to see Nobbins! Should we assume as long as we place at home, Nobbins won't be doing a watchalong?
If it’s Premier League home games then yeah as I’ll be at the Etihad 😃
Pep played this way in Cruyff's Barcelona team. Search Cruyff inverted fullbacks.
great video bro
Thanks mate love your support 💙
What kind of touch screen and software that you use for this? Great video mate
Nice video. I still think that walker should be the one guarding against counters. That is where he is most useful. If I had to gamble on who I should let have the ball as the opposition, I would let walker and Gvardiol have it un wide spaces
Like your thinking enjoyed a lesson in tactics
LNobbins, you are a genius, much appreciated ❤
Agreed rose!
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Great analysis, it will be interesting to see if this tactic continues through the season or if Grealish gets back in to the side.
great analysis!! thanks for the video
It would be a mistake to change system and rely on Kyle walker to make an accurate pass. Imagine we had cancelo playing the Kyle walker role and actually delivering proper balls into the box. Need to get another RB in the summer
Doku is great, he has the holiding capability Grealish has though he's abit not quite good at and he falls easily every now and then bt with more playing time am sure we'll be comparing him to Vini Jr
I’d be interested to see how Ange’s use of the attacking 2-3-5 compares to Pep’s use of it!
Amazing video. It really takes 200IQ to understand these Pep tactics but you can sometimes see that he's overthinking too much.
Great video, would love if you could do something for the Brentford game when we had kdb foden and Alvarez on with no wingers
Sorry I was meaning to do a vid post Brentford but I was ill 🤧
@@Nobbins it’s all good, never to late imo would love to see your analysis to see how that system worked.
I don’t understand Pep’s obsession of starting Alvarez in every game . I think it would be better playing Foden there and Grealish and Doku on the left and right respectively
Alvarez is centre forward that why pep like him.
We also used the diamond against brentford
If you think about it why doesn't pep play the best crossing Fullback we have in Gomez in this system????
Think it’s his defensive concerns
Because he's terrible. He can't defend at all.
too weak
Would genuinely like to hear Pep talk about his decision to keep playing Alvarez in the middle, and just generally playing people out of position. Akanji, Stones, Alvarez, and Foden were all asked to play out of their best position in the Everton match, with no real justification. Earlier in the season, his hand was forced because of lack of options, but there's no excuse now. Even with the UCL looming, there were so many other options he could've gone with which would allow players to be in their best position. At this point in the season, with a full bill of health, there's no reason we should've just played our worst half of the season, especially at home. I'm sure there's a reason, and would love to hear it
I like your content man, and I do agree, Man city is become more defensive at the expense of creativity. We'll have to see how it works in line with the upcoming matches or if Pep will change the formation again
Pep is a frickin genius
I think pep is preparing that walker role for yan cuoto for next session !
Interesting! Honestly I’m not sure if Pep even wants to use wingbacks like this, the transfer window should tell us more
Man City 2021: 4-3-3
Man City 2022: 4-2-3-1
Man City 2023: 3-2-4-1
Man City 2024: 2-3-5
Man City 2025: 1-4-5
Man City 2026: 0-4-6 (Ederson at CB)
they actually have been playing like that . i been playing on fifa23 with a costume line up
but i do agree if you loose the ball your done
what's that app you use to show the positions and move them around?
It’s my own tactical board not an app
235 is Argentina formation champion world cup.Molina n acuna is wingback
Do you think city should try and get one of Leverkusen’s attacking wingbacks to replace Walkers attacking output ?
Ideally we don’t play this formation long term, I’m not its biggest fan!
Pep is the GOAT
It looks like for certain teams pep has his own counter formation/shapes.
Pep plays different formations based on the opposition. He doesn't play the same formation in every game
Indeed, but he always has set formations per season
What's your ideal starting 11, cause im not sure with ake, gvardrivol, and walker?
Ederson
Akanji
Dias
Gvardiol
Stones
Rodri
Foden
KDB
Bernardo
Grealish
Haaland
@@Nobbinsake is one of if not the best defender we have .. could be strongly second after Dias
Nobbin what do you think is the best position for Alvarez? No 10? He is sometimes good in tight spaces to be fair
He’s a 2nd striker for me, he worked best last season when he was able to bounce off Haaland. Usually struggles in the midfield, not his fault tbf
great video!
On the bench. He can't keep foden out anymore. His touch isn't on fodens level
He used this formation at Bayern against a pretty low ranked team at the time.
Yep tried to very early doors at City too, didn’t work haha
Haven't ange used this is spurs aswell
4-4-2 long ball takes this apart. We've come full circle 😅
Pep’s regularly used 442 long passes to combat the evolution of his own football from opposition managers
oscar bobb needs to play more when silva or debuyne need rest
I'm new to Football I started watching it after getting introduce by mi GF during the world cup, love this type of videos that give me the wider picture, thank you, but you need to work in that screen dude, is distracting to watch the camera and mic reflection on it
I am looking into how to fix this
Next year pep will only have one defender lol
Best video till now. Acc to me.
With this formation there's no guarantee of defence so Missing Chances will cost us heavy
Why do you think Alvarez took the corner and not KDB in that game against Everton that lead to Haaland’s first goal? I thought KDB was going to take it..
I’m not sure, if KDB is available I always want him on our corners
@@Marea316 I always defend Alvarez. But if i had to choose a corner kicker or a free kicker, KDB is the best. Alvarez has the range but KDB has the vision and the range.
@@Marea316 KDB was on the field. He came in for Nunes around 58 minutes. Alvarez took that corner kick around 71 minutes. That was my question. Why didn’t KDB take the corner kick if KDB was on the field and Alvarez did.
If only we had a left-back/wing-back Pep could play BFS football long ball to Haaland in a 4.4.2.
I can never understand why managers and coaches want to make the game harder, It's a simple game when played simply
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Wasn't this the 17/18 man city shape when delph was at LB
This is much more about personnel and which players are creating the shape than the shape itself if that makes sense
@@Nobbins insightful analysis. It's always interesting how one shape can be interpreted in so many ways depending on the coach, players, game state and opposition
He’s been using it since Bayern
Man I love Doku but he's always fallin and risking he also slows down the attack sometimes..I'd prefer Grealish
Truly believe Gvardiol has been our weakest link in defensive line
2-3-5 that's why we're conceding Gol with just one shot
Nagelsmann used 2-3-5 in 2022 at Bayern.
its more like 4-3-2-1 attacking shape than a 2-3-5
Not really, when the fullbacks are used out wide they are literally just wingbacks
Pep tries to be inventive, but there is no need for this formation. In fact, it has cost city points this season. He didn't need to change much from last season, and that could end up costing city the title this season
for me we did good in 1st half
Nathan playing that pivot role , I was impressed.
I dont know why you sayin we're bad in the first half.
Not sure what you mean tbf, what impressed you in particular? We created essentially nothing and had no shots on target
We're winning because we've got better players, not because of this system.
Having better players is indeed important, but it’s no good having good players if the structure/system around them doesn’t get the most out of them
@@Nobbins It's the Emperor's Clothes.
Increasing defensive frailty to further compress the last third. , "But look at the tailoring".
Feedback.........Interested in the video but can't finish it, even 1/5 of it, because of the strange positions of presenter and the screen. Reflection of microphones and presented makes the video quality on the tablet even worse.
I am looking into getting an anti-glare sheet for my tablet, is that what you mean? 😃
This 235 formation ain't new. If you have been keen enough, it's what Arteta used last season when arsenal are in possession, with Saliba and Gabriel as the sole defenders
I’d love to know at what point I said Pep had invented this formation
Pep always used 2-3-5 shape before. This isn't really new except for the players being involved.
Not at City and certainly not consistently
@@Nobbins There are several tactical breakdowns of his 2-3-5 at city spanning at least 4years ago up until this date.
Which season did he consistently deploy his fullbacks as wingers at City?
This isn’t a new formation he always used to run in old seasons then he saw the defensive security of 325
2-3-5 Honestly I don’t like it. against good attackers we will have problems this is why we conceded so much this season. our cb is not fast enough to play a 2-3-5
I agree I’m not the biggest fan of a 2-3 shape
This is not new, Pep used this variation years ago, he just switches it based off opponent and players he has available
He’s never used fullbacks as wingers/wingbacks before like this, that’s sort of the point of the video
@@Nobbins Their tactical purpose is the same, if it was Mahrez and Grealish on the wings, they would do the same job pinning them back. Pep deployed this shape when he had Benjamin Mendy back in 2017. Good analysis though.
Also the whole point of Guardiola's setup is to prevent counter attacks yes, but he is OK with allowing the wide spaces since the goal is central. That's why he has the 3 players in the middle
I agree but with Grealish/Mahrez it wasn’t a consistent 2-3 shape in build up
At this rate Pep will be playing with no defenders in a few years
😂
Honestly that formation didn't go well. Too many passes in the back without any good movement in front. It felt like the players are still getting used to it, especially Akanji. He's final third passes were very predictable and he was just to slow.
So City spent £100 million on Grealish just for ball retention 🤦🏿 The reason Pep brought Doku is because Grealish doesn't offer enough attacking prowess. He doesn't create enough or score enough. If you spend £100 million you expect an abundance of creativity and goals, not just ball retention. Doku offers more creativity and goals, so i would always prefer Doku to Grealish
Yes that is definitely correct re Grealish
3-2-2-3
Or
2-3-2-3
Nobbins I like your video. Can I ask you a question? Based on your experience as a lawyer, do you think MC may found guilty for FFP?
He have already made a video a year back ig and he said it's pretty tough to prove anything against city as it's a civil case not criminal so even if found guilty our old titles shouldn't be strip off and we might get a little pt deduction ig 😅
I’ve made a video on this 😃 it’s a good one tbf would recommend giving it a watch!
@@Nobbins Thanks Nobbins.
CITY will win the UCL this season bro
Thats just a 433 with inverted full backs...
Well no the fullbacks both becoming out and out wingers isn’t the same as inverted full backs is it
Im still not a fan of this. I dont see why we dont go back to the back 3 that worked so well last year. If the counter attack is the big concern why have Walker in the penalty area? Hes the only defender with pace we have and thats really the only thing he does well. Having him in an attacking role just does t make sense because he cant cross, hes not a good passer and his touch is poor. Hes wasted as an attacker.
I also don’t like it tbh 🤷
This is why I don't like FC24 game, because I'm not allowed to invent new formations like these!
Outrageous!
I know right! It was annoying to see our treble winning formation wasn't added to the game 🙄
Alvarez is the problem we have
So artetas formation basically 😂
he has been doing this for a decade
Not at City consistently which is the point of this video 👍
@@Nobbins your joking right?
Which season did he play the 2-3-5 constantly using the fullbacks as wingbacks?
This isn’t new they used this in 2017/18 and 18/19.
Tell me which fullbacks in those years became wingers/wingbacks with the ball?
@@Nobbins mendy and walker used to take up these wide postions in 17-19. i commented at the beginnig of the video before you mentioned that the fullbacks were int he wide areas. to be fair the system/formation itself isnt new. the players who take up these positions are whats new. in new castle match they got exposed in the space behind walker for both goals because he was playing as a wingers/wingback. i perfer the 2-3-5 with wingers outwide. i think that 3-2-5 is strongest with the squad they have when its at full strength. overall good video i enjoyed it
People pay £2+ to listen to a freeze-frame, hindsight analysis. Anybody can stop the play at a point of their choosing, shove players around and say 'this is what Pep should have done so I don't know what he was thinking'
The best manager in the world is Nobby!?
FFS!
Nah there’s no way you’re STILL crying days after your 1st comment Keith please seek psychiatric help
Ya think Walker was the worst player!?
Pep knows best, you know f*** all!
Who’s been our worst starter then Keith? Which of our main starting XI has been the worst?
Someone has to be the worst
1st, who are the starting 11?
Not even Pep will give you that answer!
Walker annihilated Vin jr.. unbelievable performance.
I am happy with all our players..there does not have to be the worst if I'm happy with them all.
Who are you to say Pep is not quite getting it right..oh yeah, you're just in it for 'likes'
Walker is feared by ALL the biggest in Europe
Objectively, there has to be a player performing to a lower level than anyone else.
The starting XI by definition is the players to have played the most minutes this season.
I will repeat, and ask again. Who’s been the worst starter for City this season? Which starting player has performed the worst, if not Walker?
Worst players:
You are not privy to all the details Pep iffs.
Players carrying injuries, players chosen for specific opponents tactical style of play, players having family issues, houses robbed, illness etc. All players can have a bad game or part thereof.
If Walker has been carrying a niggle do you think Pep would announce it to the world.
What I do know is Pep is the best manager of all time based on many professionals saying so, therefore, if Pep says it's Tuesday, it's f****** Tuesday!
Your 'freeze frame' analysis is just that.
The exquisite one-touch-football that we play is changing the world's idea of how to play the game and I find your freeze format amateurish and anybody can 'freeze' and state what could have happened.
If you're that good, apply for the Luton job.
Singling out a worst player is a cheap shot at Walker when you DON'T KNOW all the information.
Do I slate Ederson for a s*** kick a few days ago? Certainly not.
Walker is world class with a difficult job...he must know exactly when to relinquish his defensive duties, press and get back again if we lose the ball.
People used to slate Zinchenko and state he was forgetting his defensive duties but, to me, it was obvious he was told to do it because he kept being picked.
There's the Doku/Grealish debate. I'm not in it because they offer different qualities...so, I trust in Pep and he's usually right.
He a genius, you're just one of millions with an opinion... except your opinion is based on a 'still'
Stick to freeze framing if you must and put walker on and off the pedestal if you must.
He does not deserve your rant, that I do know.
Tears I asked you to name our worst starter this season and you send me this crying paragraph? Fairs man I wish had that much free time
Remove your face and show the pictures so we can understand better we really don’t need to see your face for this type of videos….you could show your face at the beginning but avoid it during the analysis
No lol
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Akanji isn't the guy, why pep does that annoys the shit out of me.
Nunes isnt ready, alvarez iant in our best 11 either
Agreed Akanji isn’t the level of Stones in that role, maybe he’s trying Akanji there as a last resort in case Stones gets injured again?
Yeah Nunes is still very raw, long way to go, promising player
Well done mate get well ❤️🩹 😊
Thank you Karl! We’re nearly there now, nothing serious, just flu I think
its a 433
No it isn’t matey
To really impress me, pick the team BEFORE kick-off.
20/20 hindsight isn't an option to Pep... it's only for armchair experts
Predictive analysis doesn’t interest me considering it’s majority luck-based.
It’s nearly impossible to accurately predict what Pep’s team and system will be given he so often changes it
Basically, what you do is stop the game at a point of your choosing, analyse the frozen frame, then tell us what you'd do at THAT SPECIFIC moment.
Ooooh! Tactical genius!!!
Pep you ain't.
I don’t recall saying I’m a tactical genius or that I’m Pep, petal